Just bought the Retaliation HISS V6 at TRU...

[Dolemite]

My Toys R Us had one Retaliation HISS V6 (with Cobra Commander figure) on the shelf, in addition to a few of the 12" Roadblock and Snake Eyes figures. The figures were beyond shit, but I picked up the HISS (price: $21.99). Heading home now, will post pics and impressions shortly.

[drunknmunky]

Say what? That's awesome. I remember when PoC hit TRU got the vehicles before the figures, maybe that's what's gonna happen. Nice score man.

[JoeMama]

uh oh... this looks really bad, in a not good bad kind of way...
I'm hoping you like it, because I already know I don't

[G.I.Spawn]

Can't wait to see the pics

[Crimson Rage]

uh oh... this looks really bad, in a not good bad kind of way...
I'm hoping you like it, because I already know I don't

What don't you like? I got it last week and love it. The colours are very restrained compared to the likes of the Fangboat and Ghost Hawk. Of course it has plastic tracks as opposed to moving treads, but it's the look I like.

[The Commander]

Awesome find man! Anxious to see it!

[fireflyguy]

I was just at TRU today and only saw the big figures. I'm not really interested in the HiSS, but it's good to know that they're starting to be released.

[Crimson Rage]

These pictures are poor I know, but don't forget I'm English - We still live by gaslight, use an abacus for adding and eat dung for dinner...

The "elevating" feature is gone. Now it only 'tilts' a bit... I do miss that.

[CrimsonGuard101]

These pictures are poor I know, but don't forget I'm English - We still live by gaslight, use an abacus for adding and eat dung for dinner...

The "elevating" feature is gone. Now it only 'tilts' a bit... I do miss that.

Have you looked ot see if you can unscrew it from those treads and put it on a POC hiss chassis?

[Str8cash]

Does the cockpit hold 1 or 2 figures?

[rdodger]

Dolemite --Nice find. It's good to know they're out there now.

[rdodger]

Crimson Rage -- Nice pix. Is there still room for a second figure in the tank's back compartment?

[Steel Brigade]

"dung for dinner" really...
Crimson Rage I might like your Avatar pic more than the Tank pics.

[Crimson Rage]

Does the cockpit hold 1 or 2 figures?

Not my thread, but as I'm here: just one. The rear compartment is gone, but you do of course have the turret now and it's pretty deep.

[rdodger]

Ok. Thanks. And please don't change that picture for awhile. :)

[Jaybird]

I really like this version. The increased firepower and redesigned front canopy make a world of difference.

[Dolemite]

Have you looked ot see if you can unscrew it from those treads and put it on a POC hiss chassis?Can't do that, but it looks like maybe you could put the POC treads on it? Not sure.

Does the cockpit hold 1 or 2 figures?1 figure. The rear cockpit has been removed so you can fit the new top turret in (which fits a 2nd figure).

[Dolemite]

BTW, I seem to have run into some kind of quality issue with my HISS...the tank will NOT plug into the chassis, no matter how hard I try to get to do so. I'll be posting lots of pics shortly, and I'll show you what I mean.

Quick first impressions....it's okay. I like the HISS V5 much more. This one has a looser, cheaper feel. It's not a drastic difference, however, but it's there. Also, instead of rising and lowering like the POC HISS does, this HISS tilts forward and backward.

I hate the new fake treads with the wheels, but at least they work, unlike the rubber POC treads. Give and take, there.

The Cobra Commander figure is so-so. Looks pretty cool, but the 5 points of articulation really kills it.

[Crimson Rage]

I really like this version. The increased firepower and redesigned front canopy make a world of difference.

Yeah, I love the new cockpit, and the gattling guns can be tilted up for an 'anti-aircraft' posture which gives the tank another battlefield application.

[Darren]

Can't do that, but it looks like maybe you could put the POC treads on it? Not sure.


I bought a 2nd Crimson HISS on clearance for parts. I really hope that you can attach the treads from the Crimson HISS to the new version.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I bought a 2nd Crimson HISS on clearance for parts. I really hope that you can attach the treads from the Crimson HISS to the new version.

Theres some strange connecting bar under the main body now that connects the treads and the top port connects to it so it can tilt forward and back. I am curious as to how that looks. Its the determining factor if I buy 12 of these or none...aside from the SDCC hiss

[drunknmunky]

I've still yet to see a Crimson Hiss around here. Looks like I'll have to hit ebay up.

[Crimson Rage]

I bought a 2nd Crimson HISS on clearance for parts. I really hope that you can attach the treads from the Crimson HISS to the new version.

The holes of the Retaliation HISS chassis line up with the pegs on the POC HISS treads, but you'll need to do a bit of trimming to get them to snap in. Shouldn't need much though.

[Lody]

Wow

It lost alot of the features from the original that made it cool

[Dolemite]

Pics...I had to post the top and bottom pieces together because for some reason the peg that connects the two of them isn't working. I can't figure out if a piece is missing or if I'm just being retarded, but the peg seems too short to fit the hole in the tank properly.

Otherwise, enjoy. I'm going to pack up the tank and see if I can exchange it.

Verdict: cool, but not as cool as the POC HISS. It's cheap, though, so that might balance it out. I both love and hate the Cobra Commander figure.

Any questions, lay 'em on me.

[Darren]

Pics...I had to post the top and bottom pieces together because for some reason the peg that connects the two of them isn't working. I can't figure out if a piece is missing or if I'm just being retarded, but the peg seems too short to fit the hole in the take properly.

Otherwise, enjoy. I'm going to pack up the tank and see if I can exchange it.

Verdict: cool, but not as cool as the POC HISS. It's cheap, though, so that might balance it out.

Any questions, lay 'em on me.

Does the nose gun pop off? I might like this new HISS a little better if it didnt have a beak.

[Darkseid83]

Does cobra commanders head pop off like other ME figs or did they change that?

[Crimson Rage]

Originally Posted by Dolemite
Pics...I had to post the top and bottom pieces together because for some reason the peg that connects the two of them isn't working. I can't figure out if a piece is missing or if I'm just being retarded, but the peg seems too short to fit the hole in the take properly.

Otherwise, enjoy. I'm going to pack up the tank and see if I can exchange it.

Verdict: cool, but not as cool as the POC HISS. It's cheap, though, so that might balance it out.

Any questions, lay 'em on me.


I had a hell of a time getting the top half on. Nothing missing... just needs a lot of effort. Instructions say do that last but I took everything else off (including the canopy), placed the silver base on a cushion then pressed the top down into it REALLY HARD with the whole of my palm pressed flat and arm at 90 degrees straight down for maximum pressure.

[Crimson Rage]

Does the nose gun pop off? I might like this new HISS a little better if it didnt have a beak.

Seperate piece you add yourself. Can display fine without it, but Looks a little snub-nosed to me.

[Dolemite]

Crimson Rage- who IS that chick in your signature? Yow!

I had a hell of a time getting the top half on. Nothing missing... just needs a lot of effort. Instructions say do that last but I took everything else off (including the canopy), placed the silver base on a cushion then pressed the top down into it REALLY HARD with the whole of my palm pressed flat and arm at 90 degrees straight down for maximum pressure.I was tempted to really put my weight into it, but I was afraid of breaking something. But, I'll give your suggestion a try after dinner with my mom (it IS Mother's Day, after all). If it works, I'll let you guys know.

However, between Crimson Rage and I, it seems confirmed that this HISS is kind of a pain in the ass to put together. The POC HISS was easy.

Does cobra commanders head pop off like other ME figs or did they change that?Looks like a ball joint to me, so yes, it should pop off. I'm honestly a little afraid to try just in case they changed anything, but I'm 99.7% sure it's a ball joint.

*EDIT* Make that 100% sure. The head pops off and on.

Does the nose gun pop off? I might like this new HISS a little better if it didnt have a beak.What Crimson Rage said above. Without the nose gun, the HISS looks kinda off...there's a very noticeable empty spot there without the gun.

[zombie casablanca]

Pics...I had to post the top and bottom pieces together because for some reason the peg that connects the two of them isn't working. I can't figure out if a piece is missing or if I'm just being retarded, but the peg seems too short to fit the hole in the tank properly.

Otherwise, enjoy. I'm going to pack up the tank and see if I can exchange it.

Verdict: cool, but not as cool as the POC HISS. It's cheap, though, so that might balance it out. I both love and hate the Cobra Commander figure.

Any questions, lay 'em on me.

hey do you have the item #/ UPC from the package or receipt? I'm trying to find the TRU item number and get one of these with my rewards points before they expire... thanks!

[Hicks_Royel]

It looks like the miniguns just peg into in the old style ports, you should be able to swap them over to the Mk V, correct?

[Darkseid83]

Sweet, that clutch coming out with the vamp has a cool sculpt head even though the body is shit.

[Cobra Terrorist]

The more I see this version of the HISS, the less I like it. I really liked the lines of the POC HISS, but that new canopy and nosegun messed that all up.

I also preferred the POC treads over the new plastic treads. Yeah, they didn't roll well, but they looked better to me.

[Dolemite]

hey do you have the item #/ upc from the package or receipt? I'm trying to find the tru item number and get one of these with my rewards points before they expire... Thanks!upc = 653569731498

[ChaplainAsst]

I really think this tank would look better as a gunship - just trade out the rear section with any number of flying vehicles.

On an unrelated question, will the cockpit glass fit on the PoC HISS?

[ChadVamp]

Has anyone seen the ninja vamp out in the wild yet? Can't wait to start my custom stinger project.

[Dolemite]

On an unrelated question, will the cockpit glass fit on the PoC HISS?I just tried it...it fits.

[Dolemite]

Finally got the top and bottom parts attached. It takes some effort, but it eventually works.

[Trooper618]

the c.c. body looks more like a new style b.a.t. to me. i will be passing.

[Dolemite]

No one loves Cobra Commander more than I do, and even I think the figure is crap. I'm trying SO hard not to feel that way, but I can't help it. I'd say it's like a dollar store-quality figure, but with the awesome Dollar Store Joes out now, I'd have to come up with something worse to compare it to.

It has nice detail, but the design is odd and the terrible articulation really just kills it.

[CrimsonGuard101]

No one loves Cobra Commander more than I do, and even I think the figure is crap. I'm trying SO hard not to feel that way, but I can't help it. I'd say it's like a dollar store-quality figure, but with the awesome Dollar Store Joes out now, I'd have to come up with something worse to compare it to.

It has nice detail, but the design is odd and the terrible articulation really just kills it.

The design would be frikken awesome if it was fully artiuclated like it was supposed to be...but hey what do i know...kids apparently love this kinda crap...since they dotn want to take the driver out of the vehicle...they should have just form odled him into the cockpit...and you wouldnt ever need ot take him out ever agian...so turned off about this for the vehicles...its sad....I dunno whats worse... Sienna Miller's unofrigven look design by Hasbro on a figure from ROC or these vehicle drivers haha...

[Dolemite]

kids apparently love this kinda crap...since they dotn want to take the driver out of the vehicle...they should have just form odled him into the cockpit...and you wouldnt ever need ot take him out ever agian...Ha! They'll probably do that for the toys they make for sequel.

[Dolemite]

BTW, I just tried swapping Cobra Commander's head onto a few other Joe/Cobra bodies, and CC's neck peg and hole must be bigger than usual...when I tried sticking his head onto any other figure, it was waaay too loose. I mean, we're talking bobblehead loose, here. The head stays on, but it just flops all around like crazy.

I'm sure some of you custom figure-making gods out there can do something with that, but someone looking for a simple head swap is shit outta luck.

[Snow Wolf]

I will be getting a couple of these. These "drivers' remind me a bit of crappy 5 point articulation Star Wars figures from 1978-1983. They only made me appreciate GIJoe's even more.

[GI C]

I wonder of Hasbro is lifting the street date on these.

[Shipshape1983]

Ok. Thanks. And please don't change that picture for awhile. :)

I thought Bianca Beauchamp was Canadian..

[CrimsonGuard101]

BTW, I just trued swapping Cobra Commander's head onto a few other Joe/Cobra bodies, and CC's neck peg and hole must be bigger than usual...when I tried sticking his head onto any other figure, it was waaay too loose. I mean, we're talking bobblehead loose, here. The head stays on, but it just flops all around like crazy.

I'm sure some of you custom figure-making gods out there can do something with that, but someone looking for a simple head swap is shit outta luck.

Chewing gum works wonders on that and keeps your figure smelling great too! :0 nah I jest..the sugar would eventually rot and stink...not to mention probabley corrode the neck ball...Add hot glue into the neck ball hole and put vaseline around the neck ball, then put the head back on while the glue is still pliable. Once the glue hardens, it will slide right off like normal and leave you with a remolded tighter neck joint.

[Galaxus]

If you dont like the cc figure I will trade a dollar general joe or two for him. :)

[Dolemite]

I thought Bianca Beauchamp was Canadian..So THAT'S who the chick is in his sig...

[Dolemite]

If you dont like the cc figure I will trade a dollar general joe or two for him. :)HMM...let me think about that. I'll PM you if I'm interested.

[Dolemite]

Chewing gum works wonders on that and keeps your figure smelling great too! :0 nah I jest..the sugar would eventually rot and stink...not to mention probabley corrode the neck ball...Add hot glue into the neck ball hole and put vaseline around the neck ball, then put the head back on while the glue is still pliable. Once the glue hardens, it will slide right off like normal and leave you with a remolded tighter neck joint.Interesting. Thanks for the tip.

[Galaxus]

HMM...let me think about that. I'll PM you if I'm interested.

Oh wait, 5 points of articulation? that's like 1980's star wars style, nevermind lol, my bad.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Oh wait, 5 points of articulation? that's like 1980's star wars style, nevermind lol, my bad.

Yeah dude the vehicle drivers...are bad mkay...go look at the pics under the the front page pic database collections for retaliation.

[Galaxus]

Yeah dude the vehicle drivers...are bad mkay...go look at the pics under the the front page pic database collections for retaliation.

Yeah I completely forgot, thats too bad being this cc's headsculpt looks more movie accurate then the single carded one, btw OP, use sticky tack for the headswap, works just fine for those type problems.

[devilfish60]

Pics...I had to post the top and bottom pieces together because for some reason the peg that connects the two of them isn't working. I can't figure out if a piece is missing or if I'm just being retarded, but the peg seems too short to fit the hole in the tank properly.

Otherwise, enjoy. I'm going to pack up the tank and see if I can exchange it.

Verdict: cool, but not as cool as the POC HISS. It's cheap, though, so that might balance it out. I both love and hate the Cobra Commander figure.

Any questions, lay 'em on me.

Man it's really hard to like a 5 point figure. I guess i'll be breaking those down and making custom drivers.

[Dolemite]

Oh wait, 5 points of articulation? that's like 1980's star wars style, nevermind lol, my bad.LOL. I don't blame you dude...I was actually wondering if you were loco when you made that offer. ;-)

[cobracobra]

Wow that Cobra Commander is neat-o. He would be way to cool to exist as a multi jointed action figure. I am still in shock to see the 5 point GI JOE has returned.
As for the HISS I am going to pass. I have 3 of the POC 30th HISS tanks and I am not sure if I need a 4th.

[Dolemite]

Man it's really hard to like a 5 point figure.It totally is. I thought I'd be able to overlook it, but now that I have one in my hand, all I can see is the lost potential. It's sad.

As for the HISS V6 itself...it's just okay. If I didn't already own a black POC V5 (which is AWESOME...the V6 feels far more "toy-like" compared to it) I'd probably hang onto it, but as it is, I think I might end up returning it to TRU. Unless anyone here wants it? If so, PM me ASAP, 'cause it'll probably be gone tomorrow.

[CrimsonGuard101]

It totally is. I thought I'd be able to overlook it, but now that I have one in my hand, all I can see is the lost potential. It's sad.

As for the HISS V6 itself...it's just okay. If I didn't already own a black POC V5 (which is AWESOME...the V6 feels far more "toy-like" compared to it) I'd probably hang onto it, but as it is, I think I might end up returning it to TRU. Unless anyone here wants it? If so, PM me ASAP, 'cause it'll probably be gone tomorrow.

Your doing it wrong....put him in the vehicle...and look he disappears :) its what the kids want!

[Nightrain]

Those treads make it look like a knock-off of a HISS.

[Dolemite]

Um...it IS a HISS.

Or are you saying that they look worse than regular HISS treads?

I LOVE the black POC HISS V5...especially the real rubber treads. The fact that they don't work worth a damn doesn't bother me, since it just sits on my shelf. However, I can see how it could piss someone off, and how they might embrace the fact that the Retaliation HISS V6 goes old-school with plastic treads with wheels...but these treads, in my opinion, look slightly worse than 25th-era HISS treads, and don't actually roll that well. It might just be the HISS V6 I bought being a little goofy, but I also have a 25th HISS and that thing rolls as smooth as butter, so I don't know.

There are things I like about the HISS V6...as Crimson Rage pointed out, the miniguns can angle upwards, and the cannon is neat. However, the tilting up/down feature is kind of pointless and not nearly as cool as the V5's ability to raise and lower.

As I said, it's a good bet if you're in need of a modern-style HISS and don't have one already, but if you have any of the POC HISS Tanks, I'd say give it a pass (unless you're an army-building mofo, which I am not). I'm most likely going to return it tomorrow.

[Indiana Joe]

It's about time you found SOMETHING before me! :)
nice score!...

Not to bring you down from your High.
but, I found my second set of DG Joes! :0
A good day for both of us!

[Crimson Rage]

Cobra Commander figure is lame, and not just because of the articulation. Even if he was had a regular Joe body he'd still be the worst CC concept I've ever seen

[Trigue]

I'd like to pick one of those HISS tanks up just to have one with some heavy firepower in the mix. I just wish they'd kept it a little closer to the POC HISS, but meh I still like it. Reminds me of the HISS tank in Resolute.

[Adamantite]

Cobra Commander figure is lame, and not just because of the articulation. Even if he was had a regular Joe body he'd still be the worst CC concept I've ever seen


They could have made him a Nitro Viper (http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/nitroviper.shtml) instead and it would have worked fine in the proper colors.

[Crimson Rage]

They could have made him a Nitro Viper (http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/nitroviper.shtml) instead and it would have worked fine in the proper colors.

He certainly gives that impression, so why they felt the need to make him CC is beyond me. Thing is, there are enough ME parts available to have made a pretty good approximation of this design and have him be fully articulated.

[CobraCrimson]

The only usefull part of this CC is his head from those pics.

Also, looks like Hasbro went on the dirt cheep route with this line way worse than what we thought, look at all the quality control problems they have had so far with all the messed up/missing parts from the Amazon Retaliation & Renegades box sets and now the hard time popping the Hiss together, this is supposed to be a line aimed at the kids, right? I think Hasbro dropped the big one on this line and their profits are going to show this once the line has "officially" been out in retail for a month or 2.

[Laser Viper]

Yeah, I love the new cockpit, and the gattling guns can be tilted up for an 'anti-aircraft' posture which gives the tank another battlefield application.

I was wondering if the side gatling cannons could be tilted up or down for anti-aircraft or pinning down the enemy while being in a high place advantage.

[Laser Viper]

Like someone said, i still would like to have just 1 and go from there. In a worst case issue, it can be returned and i think an update Track-Viper should be have used, not CC.

[ChaplainAsst]

About the CC figure, we have no way of knowing what role he may be used in the movie - particularly as the tanks roll into DC. This may be a signature moment in the movie. Hasbro may release another movie HISS in a different color scheme (black?) with a track viper or some other Cobra driver. Needless to say, they are going a very different route this time with toys so we just don't know how this will play out down the line.

[Gilgamesh51]

Sad to say, but after more discussion here, and more pics popping in, I'm really not digging the new HISS.

I know the brown HISS tanks were hard to roll around with the treads, but the black and crimson tanks I bought were much easier to play with. The treads still catch when the tank body is locked down, but up, I didn't have any trouble moving it around.

I just don't dig the retool. Eventhough its still 85% HISS V5, I do miss the rubber treads, and pop up feature. That thing looks dumb "tilted." At least the V5 could rotate, sure the guns didn't go up and down individually, but it still shot stuff up in my battles!

[jogunwarrior]

Forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed, but are the stickers the same as with the POC Hiss? Or did they make cost reducing changes their as well?

I really liked the stickers for the POC and 30th ann. vehicles, they were a lot like the old vintage ones (before the crappy paper stickers!)

[46 Zone]

I thought that in hand pics would make this tank more appealing, but I'm going to pass on this one. I'm also giving this the Bobby Knight/Kentucky treatment. This vehicle will forever be called a "tank" by me. It doesn't deserve to have the first 4 letters in the name.

[ChaplainAsst]

I thought that in hand pics would make this tank more appealing, but I'm going to pass on this one. I'm also giving this the Bobby Knight/Kentucky treatment. This vehicle will forever be called a "tank" by me. It doesn't deserve to have the first 4 letters in the name.

In some ways, this is a tremendous upgrade - clear cockpit, turret in the rear, larger/more cannons - and there are some clear downsides too. From what I can see, it is better than the brown HISS that was not a pleasant color and didn't sit well, and didn't have the best driver. I see this tank being an amazing SDCC exclusive, a nice addition to my HISS tanks, and probably fodder for many great customs by some of our talented customizers. The front end could make an amazing gunship cockpit. The back end might be fitted onto a brown HISS to make a superior tank.

[Dolemite]

About the CC figure, we have no way of knowing what role he may be used in the movie - particularly as the tanks roll into DC. This may be a signature moment in the movie. Hasbro may release another movie HISS in a different color scheme (black?) with a track viper or some other Cobra driver. Needless to say, they are going a very different route this time with toys so we just don't know how this will play out down the line.I'm pretty confident that this version of CC is just something Hasbro whipped up in 5 minutes to pack in with the tank. None of the first wave stuff is very movie-accurate at all.

At least the V5 could rotate, sure the guns didn't go up and down individually, but it still shot stuff up in my battles!The top half of the V6 actually DOES rotate left and right to a limited degree, but it's nowhere near the range that the V5 can do. It can't turn to fire at things on its sides, but it can cover its front pretty well.

Forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed, but are the stickers the same as with the POC Hiss? Or did they make cost reducing changes their as well?It has a lot of the same stickers that came with the POC HISS, but less of them. No custom letters so you could spell out stuff, for example.

[jogunwarrior]

Thanks for the Info! I think I have some custom letters left over from my 3 POC Hiss', so that should work!

[Crimson Rage]

I just don't dig the retool. Eventhough its still 85% HISS V5, I do miss the rubber treads, and pop up feature. That thing looks dumb "tilted." At least the V5 could rotate, sure the guns didn't go up and down individually, but it still shot stuff up in my battles!

I don't get the "tilting" either; it doesn't make any sense in any context. Body does still rotate on the chassis a bit though - Around 45 degrees of left/right movement.

Nuisance that the sticker sheet is the same as the POC HISS, as many of them no longer fit where they should.

[fhersanke]

[QUOTE=Dolemite;3609808]I'm pretty confident that this version of CC is just something Hasbro whipped up in 5 minutes to pack in with the tank. None of the first wave stuff is very movie-accurate at all.

the body its the same from the proto pilot of the g i joe howler
from roc

[Fast_Draw]

Hmmm, from the Howler I can see the cockpit/body of the Ghost Hawk II w/ Duke.

[orezona]

I am going to stick to my plan and immediately paint this all black as soon as I get one.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/axisofevilskateboards/COBRAAAAA/hiss6.jpg
(yeah, I did photoshop this... why didn't they go this route in the first place?)

[Crimson Rage]

I am going to stick to my plan and immediately paint this all black as soon as I get one.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c102/axisofevilskateboards/COBRAAAAA/hiss6.jpg
(yeah, I did photoshop this... why didn't they go this route in the first place?)


That looks nice. I do expect a repaint at some point in the future though.

[ChaplainAsst]

Hmmm, from the Howler I can see the cockpit/body of the Ghost Hawk II w/ Duke.

Not really if you look at them side by side.

[paraviper]

While this Tank looks kind of cool. I just can't bring myself to buy anymore Hiss Tanks.

[Laser Viper]

Black over purple will win any day! The more i look at it, the more i wanna like it, and too me its a cross between old and new HISS. Yes i love the V5, and i have 4 Crimson HISS tanks for Cobra, but the tracks still catch when pushing on the body of the toy to move, but when placing your hand at the back between the tracks and pushing the toy, it rolls better and the tracks catch less. I could careless about figure and 5pts of articulation i have some left over HISS drivers from the 25th line to fill the gap on that issue and besides, if anyone want CC driving the new HISS, then buy the new CC with multi-points of articulation and place him in the cockpit and send him out for battle!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Black over purple will win any day! The more i look at it, the more i wanna like it, and too me its a cross between old and new HISS. Yes i love the V5, and i have 4 Crimson HISS tanks for Cobra, but the tracks still catch when pushing on the body of the toy to move, but when placing your hand at the back between the tracks and pushing the toy, it rolls better and the tracks catch less. I could careless about figure and 5pts of articulation i have some left over HISS drivers from the 25th line to fill the gap on that issue and besides, if anyone want CC driving the new HISS, then buy the new CC with multi-points of articulation and place him in the cockpit and send him out for battle!

Thats the thing...I like army buidling the vehicle drivers (prior to retaliaiton) to display beside their vehicles, they are troopers/vipers like any other troop in the cobra ranks...not in it with the door closed wher eyocu ant see it...whats the poin tin that? I never played with joes in the cockpits if you coudl nto see the figure well..its like putting your toys in a bag and throwing the bag around while everyoen else has htier joes on the battle field...whose in the bag? I dunno all of my stuff! I win!

This CC owudl have been uptra badass for a mechanised Bat/Techno-viper Hiss driver or something. but alas...its nothing more then a waste of plastic...

[nighthawk]

I really only wanted the canopy of this HISS for my black V5 HISS. Too bad that's not the canopy they used for the V5. :( Doubt anyone would have one to trade but if someone for some reason doesn't need their canopy, haha.

[Nightrain]

Um...it IS a HISS.

Or are you saying that they look worse than regular HISS treads?

You are so smart.

[Dolemite]

You are so smart.I is!

[Dolemite]

the body its the same from the proto pilot of the g i joe howler from rocThat's a prototype? Shame...if it was available it would solve the articulation issue with a simple head-swap. After all, as much as some people like to rip on the RoC toys, they actually pushed some boundaries when it came to articulation, as opposed to curtailing them like the Retaliation toys are doing.

[nighthawk]

Can someone post a pic of the new HISS canopy on the black V5 one?

[CrimsonGuard101]

That's a prototype? Shame...if it was available it would solve the articulation issue with a simple head-swap. After all, as much as some people like to rip on the RoC toys, they actually pushed some boundaries when it came to articulation, as opposed to curtailing them like the Retaliation toys are doing.

Yeah a lot of the unarticlauetd vehicle drivers are all parts from unreleased protoyeps:

1) Ninja Vamp Driver is Data Viper(sans head and accessories) (so much for his parts not being tooled as they said, looks liek some did)
2) Swamp Viper (cancelled Clucth driver for the 30th anni POC vamp redeco/reissue, instead we got another boring SB)
3) As mentioned the Hiss tank driver
4) Forget where the parts for CLuth with the ripit tank came from...but I think we was also once a fully articulated figure also at one point (maybe it was the other way around and the ripitank driver is the data viper body, blah)...before the execs had thier way with em...

[TheRealDubya]

I have to admit, I want all of the 5 POA driver figures more than I want most of the single carded figures.

Don't ask me why, I just do.

[Tauron]

Guys, I found the 4 inch figures at the Toys R Us by Times Square. they had the entire assortment. One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack. The card art was still showing him in blue. Any ideas? Forgive me if this is a known change already, I haven't seen anything about it.

I also picked up a red ninja and the 3 pack with the Beachhead repaint. That was all I really wanted form this assortment.

[TheRealDubya]

Guys, I found the 4 inch figures at the Toys R Us by Times Square. they had the entire assortment. One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack. The card art was still showing him in blue. Any ideas? Forgive me if this is a known change already, I haven't seen anything about it.

I also picked up a red ninja and the 3 pack with the Beachhead repaint. That was all I really wanted form this assortment.

I think the black CC is from the Wave 2 assortment?

[nightfall]

Awesome find Tauron. I can't wait to find these figs and vehicles.

[Crimson Rage]

Guys, I found the 4 inch figures at the Toys R Us by Times Square. they had the entire assortment. One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack. The card art was still showing him in blue. Any ideas? Forgive me if this is a known change already, I haven't seen anything about it.

I also picked up a red ninja and the 3 pack with the Beachhead repaint. That was all I really wanted form this assortment.

Ohhhh man. I wonder if the guy who paid a fortune for his black CC on Ebay is a member here...

[Dolemite]

Guys, I found the 4 inch figures at the Toys R Us by Times Square. they had the entire assortment. One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack. The card art was still showing him in blue. Any ideas? Forgive me if this is a known change already, I haven't seen anything about it.We've heard about the change from blue to black. General opinion is that it's a running change to make Cobra Commander look a tiny bit more movie-accurate. This created some concern that the blue version might end up becoming rare and hard to find. This news might confirm that.

I actually just bought a blue CC last night on Ebay because of this very same concern. Looks like I might have made the right move, because once word gets out that the black CC is the norm, blue CC prices are gonna skyrocket...

[Dolemite]

Ohhhh man. I wonder if the guy who paid a fortune for his black CC on Ebay is a member here...If he was, I doubt he'd admit it...

[CrimsonGuard101]

I am ok with the blue one going away..the black is friggen awesome...I am trying to figure out how I can make the CG Immortals...once I can get another 10 DG black troopers I can start doing that idea lol...now they just need to redeco the retaliation troopers in black and silver with 25th SE webgear and well be talking bizness

[Tauron]

Good to know. Thanks guys for the feedback. You'd think Hasbro would have changed the card art though to match the new figure. I prefer the black anyway and it prevents me from ebaying the Amazon exclusive figure. Thanks again and good hunting to one and all.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Good to know. Thanks guys for the feedback. You'd think Hasbro would have changed the card art though to match the new figure. I prefer the black anyway and it prevents me from ebaying the Amazon exclusive figure. Thanks again and good hunting to one and all.

That would be insnaley expensive to reprint all of those card backs and throw away the wrong color ones...this is why they always put in the back of the box "images and colors may vary" and my favorite consumer disclaimer "some posess require additional hand support" lol

[mark4flair]

Guys, I found the 4 inch figures at the Toys R Us by Times Square. they had the entire assortment. One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack. The card art was still showing him in blue. Any ideas? Forgive me if this is a known change already, I haven't seen anything about it.

I also picked up a red ninja and the 3 pack with the Beachhead repaint. That was all I really wanted form this assortment.

What was the price for the single carded figures and the 3 packs at TRU????????

[VideoViper]

....One thing I noticed was the Cobra Commander was black like the one from the amazon pack.

Great I will get the Black CC plus the Snake Head to use as part of his throne. win all around.

[netkid]

We've heard about the change from blue to black. General opinion is that it's a running change to make Cobra Commander look a tiny bit more movie-accurate. This created some concern that the blue version might end up becoming rare and hard to find. This news might confirm that.

I actually just bought a blue CC last night on Ebay because of this very same concern. Looks like I might have made the right move, because once word gets out that the black CC is the norm, blue CC prices are gonna skyrocket...

Speaking of running changes, VipersKingdom recently sold a carded Retaliation G.I.Joe Trooper with the brown mask and cape: G.I. Joe 2012 Retaliation Trooper wave one per case rare | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item3cc61bc90d&item=261021747469&nma=true&pt=US_Action_Figures&rt=nc&si=ksjm4Vmp2p%252Fi5EtDDxF5wU9vnu4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

[Tauron]

The 3 pack was 22.99 but keep in mind the TRU at Times Square will at times charge more than the rank and file TRUs. I recall the TRU exclusive 3 packs were a a dollar or two more than the TRU in Brooklyn. So 22.99 would be the highest I'd expect any TRU to have it, more than likely 19.99-21.99

[Tauron]

That would be insnaley expensive to reprint all of those card backs and throw away the wrong color ones...this is why they always put in the back of the box "images and colors may vary" and my favorite consumer disclaimer "some posess require additional hand support" lol
Yeah, I guess you're right about the cost. That line about the posses is funny too.

[CrimsonGuard101]

The 3 pack was 22.99 but keep in mind the TRU at Times Square will at times charge more than the rank and file TRUs. I recall the TRU exclusive 3 packs were a a dollar or two more than the TRU in Brooklyn. So 22.99 would be the highest I'd expect any TRU to have it, more than likely 19.99-21.99

I stopped into my local TRU based on your findings and of course found nothing. Asked the store mamanger about it and he said "oh wow they broke a serious street date if thats the case, we got em in theback and i am not jeprodizing myself with releasing this early, try back with us on the 28th"...stupid TRU lol...

[Steevy Maximus]

I actually just bought a blue CC last night on Ebay because of this very same concern. Looks like I might have made the right move, because once word gets out that the black CC is the norm, blue CC prices are gonna skyrocket...
Depends on how prevalent the blue ends up being. Prices aren't going to skyrocket when people can easily walk into Walmart and find 2 or 3 or 50 sitting on pegs.

I'm not expecting any big "price jump" until the blue is well and out of circulation, which depending on sales and distribution, may not be until later in the summer (again, depending on how much of the blue ones are in circulation)

That would be insnaley expensive to reprint all of those card backs and throw away the wrong color ones...this is why they always put in the back of the box "images and colors may vary" and my favorite consumer disclaimer "some posess require additional hand support" lol
Heh, I'd imagine that if CC is going to be in production for a while longer, Hasbro MIGHT change the cardback in future production runs...creating ANOTHER variant for the goobers around here to look for :lol

[nighthawk]

Wow! This Retalliation HISS topic has ended up being the black CC topic. :(

Guess I'll ask again...haha. Can anyone who has this and the HISS V5 snap a picture of the V6 canopy on a V5 HISS tank?

Thanks!

[Tauron]

I stopped into my local TRU based on your findings and of course found nothing. Asked the store mamanger about it and he said "oh wow they broke a serious street date if thats the case, we got em in theback and i am not jeprodizing myself with releasing this early, try back with us on the 28th"...stupid TRU lol...
I can stop by again tomorrow if you want and see if they have anything left. did you want both sets?

[GI C]

I would like the Ghost Hawk 2 myself.

[ponygt]

That would be a very cool figure if fully articulated! Would make a sweet OverKill;)

[Tauron]

Sorry didn't read the entire message. The single figs were 11.49. But again the Times Square TRU does have higher prices on some items compared to other TRU stores.

[Headman]

I like the color.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I can stop by again tomorrow if you want and see if they have anything left. did you want both sets?

Nono just wanted to check and see if could grab some fodder I need :) You can get em for other peeps though so feel free...thanks for the offer though...lol all my money is going to the Dollar Store Joes for now...

[Dolemite]

Sorry didn't read the entire message. The single figs were 11.49. But again the Times Square TRU does have higher prices on some items compared to other TRU stores.Maybe not. I don't live anywhere near Manhattan, and when I bought the Retaliation HISS, all my TRU had on the pegs were Renegades figures. And what did the price tags read? Yup, $11.49. I fear these are TRU's regular Joe prices now.

[Tauron]

Nono just wanted to check and see if could grab some fodder I need :) You can get em for other peeps though so feel free...thanks for the offer though...lol all my money is going to the Dollar Store Joes for now...

Sure, anytime. If you change your mind let me know.

Maybe not. I don't live anywhere near Manhattan, and when I bought the Retaliation HISS, all my TRU had on the pegs were Renegades figures. And what did the price tags read? Yup, $11.49. I fear these are TRU's regular Joe prices now.

Yeah they did that with the Marvel Universe figs too, marked em down from 9.99 to 6.99 for a few weeks until the Avengers figs hit then brought em back up to 11.49. Insane. Thankfully there are very few movie figures that I'm interested in. Like CG101 said. I'm all in for the dollar store figures for now.

[Dealer Destro]

Man really? I am not trying to hate but I didn't realize the treads had a 'downgraded' look.

[mark4flair]

The 3 pack was 22.99 but keep in mind the TRU at Times Square will at times charge more than the rank and file TRUs. I recall the TRU exclusive 3 packs were a a dollar or two more than the TRU in Brooklyn. So 22.99 would be the highest I'd expect any TRU to have it, more than likely 19.99-21.99

Sorry didn't read the entire message. The single figs were 11.49. But again the Times Square TRU does have higher prices on some items compared to other TRU stores.

The prices for the 3 packs are decent.

The prices for the single figures stink. Looks like I will not be hunting at TRU for the Retaliation line.

[Fesifisky]

BTW, I seem to have run into some kind of quality issue with my HISS...the tank will NOT plug into the chassis, no matter how hard I try to get to do so. I'll be posting lots of pics shortly, and I'll show you what I mean.


I found that clicking the peg forward first and holding it upside-down and clamping with both hands works very well and doesn't take nearly as much force as the other way around. Hell, I spilled a beer trying the other way.


It looks like the miniguns just peg into in the old style ports, you should be able to swap them over to the Mk V, correct?

Yes and no, it's a lil tight, so use a bit of force with care.

[Fesifisky]

Wow! This Retalliation HISS topic has ended up being the black CC topic. :(

Guess I'll ask again...haha. Can anyone who has this and the HISS V5 snap a picture of the V6 canopy on a V5 HISS tank?

Thanks!

Ask and thou shall receive.

[jogunwarrior]

I like those new canopy's alot more than the V-5.

[nighthawk]

Ask and thou shall receive.

Thanks!

[Fesifisky]

NP. Though the canopy looks 10x better on this new Hiss when changed to black(along with the rest of the tank) and moving treads added.

[RogueWingnut]

I found that clicking the peg forward first and holding it upside-down and clamping with both hands works very well and doesn't take nearly as much force as the other way around. Hell, I spilled a beer trying the other way.


I agree, I tried twice to snap it on with the peg in the sitting position in the chassis and it would bite. I bent it forward and it was almost instant. Great toy tho, saving the CC head for a DG Trooper.

[Red Sox]

Hmm.. Canopy and turret much improved but the treads look like complete crap now.

Oh well, they sucked me into buying another HISS tank anyway. lol

[Fesifisky]

Hmm.. Canopy and turret much improved but the treads look like complete crap now.

Oh well, they sucked me into buying another HISS tank anyway. lol

I have a thread in the WIP customs area here, if you have a spare newer Hiss and don't mind sacrificing it, it's not that hard to get the moving treads on.

[Xerofall]

My wife says, "Another Hiss Tank???!!!"

Yes dear.

I like it. It did take a bit to get the body on the treads but it does go on, and I might be in the minority, but I wasn't a fan of the functional treads, they didn't move well. I like them now, but I only display, not play.

The CC would have been super cool had he had the articulation. (I know, beating a dead horse.)

Here's a shot of the black CC and the Hiss CC with heads swapped...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/GI%20Joe/IMAG0262.jpg

[cobracobra]

Saw this and had to pass.

[Syn3sthesia]

Sticking with the original. This repaint is horrible and most of the features that made cool the 1st incarnation of that mold are gone. No thanks!

[jim0680]

looks good its on my want list

[ljacone]

Just built mine tonight and I love it. Total throwback vehicle to the old days. I'm having fun putting the decals on currently!

EDIT: Now that I have finished the decals and had a chance to play with it some, I really dig this tank. I for one am not sad to see the rubber treads go. They just don't roll well and tend to get "scuffy" looking. The plastic treads don't bother me at all; it's just like the old school HISS. The canopy also looks a lot better with the translucent plastic on it.

Complaints: I wish the Gatling guns could spin around like an actual Gatling gun would do. And I wish the pack in figure had been a HISS Driver instead of Cobra Commander, articulated or otherwise. As it stands my plan right now is to grab a 25th HISS Driver to pilot it and have the Commander manning the turret.

Overall I am totally jazzed about this purchase and am glad I found it at TRU today.

[brock Samson]

Ask and thou shall receive.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/attachments/g-i-joe-news-rumors/107874d1337580715t-just-bought-retaliation-hiss-v6-tru-newhisscanopyonoldhiss.jpg

That blue might go well with the crimson hiss body. I guess it would look ok on the Black. Oh well, I just want a canopy now. And a regular single carded black cc head. That head actually looks good, just needs to be attached to the DG CC body!

[Xerofall]

Complaints: I wish the Gatling guns could spin around like an actual Gatling gun would do.

Mine spin, there isn't a knob, but they do move.

[oliverbox]

I'm very excited about this. I'm a huge Armor (Tanks) fan, and this is a pretty good addition. There's a lot I like about this new one, and I can live with the cheaper/non-moving treads.

[Xerofall]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/IMAG0268.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Surlon/IMAG0266.jpg

[ljacone]

Mine spin, there isn't a knob, but they do move.

Mine must just be very tight then. Thanks!

[CG82]

It looks like a piece of shit. The non moving miniguns also prevent the turret from aiming correctly, the mini-guns shouldve been placed on the side or below so not to prevent the turret from moving. The cheap threads and gimmick tank cannon with the exposed driver is such a bad late 80's and early-mid 90's throw back -its like they're stuck making cheap toys and insulting the kids IQ. The shitty front guns are the most pathetic.

The only gripe really on the POC HISS is that the barrels werent hollowed out on the mini-gun, the front chain guns were a solid, hollow and could not move up and down and the main cannon was the stupid spring firing crap.

[ljacone]

It looks like a piece of shit. The non moving miniguns also prevent the turret from aiming correctly, the mini-guns shouldve been placed on the side or below so not to prevent the turret from moving. The cheap threads and gimmick tank cannon with the exposed driver is such a bad late 80's and early-mid 90's throw back -its like they're stuck making cheap toys and insulting the kids IQ. The shitty front guns are the most pathetic.

The only gripe really on the POC HISS is that the barrels werent hollowed out on the mini-gun, the front chain guns were a solid, hollow and could not move up and down and the main cannon was the stupid spring firing crap.
If you are so concerned about the aiming of the main gun, you can always mount the Gatling guns upside down (swap left for right).

As far as the canopy, that's all personal preference. I held off on buying the HISS v5 because I didn't like that closed canopy, and I am glad I did, because this canopy looks a lot better. Not having those silly saddlebags is a big plus as well.

And as far as insulting the kids IQ, not sure where you are going with this, but after witnessing a kid have to work to get the treads to roll smootly on different surfaces (hardwood, tabletop, and carpet) on a HISS Scout last weekend, I imagine that the plastic treads would be appreciated by an actual kid.

[CG82]

I never had any trouble with the rubber threads, inf act they look great and more "realistic". The closed canopy looks more intimidating and actually armored which I like.

[VSpec]

can you put the gatling guns into the holes on the side?

[Fesifisky]

They fit but a bit snug, might be hard to get them to aim straight ahead.

[Drill]

You know what, you can fit a 3rd figure in this thing. If you pull out the rotating turret on the top there is enough space to put a Cora officer where the back cockpit would be on the V5 or even a Joe prisoner. It is highly similar to the V1 Hiss Tank where there is enough space if you pull out that models turret.
Even without the treads or the pop up feature I love this thing. It's nice to have a variety of colors for this type of design (blue, black, brown, red).

[CVdelgado]

i was looking at one of these for my son, it looks like more playability than the poc hiss. what do you think?

[Drill]

I wouldnt say its more or less playable, but it is a good vehicle. The rotating turret that you can man a figure on the outside of might be what you are looking for. It's worth the $20.

[CG82]

Wonder why they didnt put the Hiss Scout/Ice Cutter chain gun on this Hiss or the POC version.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I really like it (cept the driver, he would have been epic had ne not been a Corps figure wannabe)

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/crimsonguard101-albums-tempus-picture51547-hiss2.jpg

I went the lazy route and stretched some V5 treads over the existing ones :) makes em a little beefier...easy mod too..I didnt wanna dremel/drill out all the parts to make em all fit together...

[CG82]

They shouldve gave it the Cobra Deviant's transparent canopy decal.

[Crimson Rage]

i was looking at one of these for my son, it looks like more playability than the poc hiss. what do you think?

The reduced parts count make the movie version more rugged, I think... Too many bits fall off the POC Tank if you really play with it. I reckon he'd love it.

[CrimsonGuard101]

i was looking at one of these for my son, it looks like more playability than the poc hiss. what do you think?

It falls apart way to easily compared to the V5(aside form the v5 pop feature that makes it a nussance for play)...V6 mostly a display piece unfortunately...my nephew played with it some last night and the treads fell off, the guns fell off the turret didnt stay in place..he had it disassembled in 1.2 seconds.....needless to say my younger brother was not to happy about the toy as you could tell my nephew (his son) was like wtf? and went on to play with my extra fangboat lol...he loved that thing...my brother kept saying, why does it just fall into pieces like that? I told him it becuase of the new "safety" requirements these toys have today..he was like "yeeck, glad I grew out of em" with a smirk on his face looking at me lol...

[CVdelgado]

I really like it (cept the driver, he would have been epic had ne not been a Corps figure wannabe)

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/members/crimsonguard101-albums-tempus-picture51547-hiss2.jpg

I went the lazy route and stretched some V5 treads over the existing ones :) makes em a little beefier...easy mod too..I didnt wanna dremel/drill out all the parts to make em all fit together...

looks good enough in this pic. my son takes good care of his stuff, maybe he can keep it together.

[Mech-Viper]

Too be honest this tank sucks, but it has it's charms, but I did have a good laugh with my woman about how bad it sucked.

[cobracobra]

It looks like a piece of shit. The non moving miniguns also prevent the turret from aiming correctly, the mini-guns shouldve been placed on the side or below so not to prevent the turret from moving. The cheap threads and gimmick tank cannon with the exposed driver is such a bad late 80's and early-mid 90's throw back -its like they're stuck making cheap toys and insulting the kids IQ. The shitty front guns are the most pathetic.

The only gripe really on the POC HISS is that the barrels werent hollowed out on the mini-gun, the front chain guns were a solid, hollow and could not move up and down and the main cannon was the stupid spring firing crap.

This is what I really needed to know.

[Ash Talon]

I like the top half. How is being able to put a gunner in the turret a bad thing? You don't have to stick one in there. Just pretend it's controlled by someone/thing inside. What an odd nitpick.

My major problem with the Retaliation HISS is the lower half. Yeah, I understand making the treads solid. Ok. Fine. It's just they're too small. The tank becomes very top-heavy, aesthetically. They could have made the treads wider and maybe just bigger overall, and the tank would have been really cool.

As it is, it's a variant to my growing modern HISS squad. I like that they made this one more heavily armed. Now, how long till it's rereleased in black?

[CG82]

Looks like they had the Hiss Scout in mind when they designed the threads.

[Jmacq1]

I really dig it as an addition to the ranks of the HISS family. This for me would be the true "main battle tank" variant. It's armed to the teeth and ready for anything with anti-personnel (the front "chin gun"), anti-air (The side gatlings can rotate upwards as seen above), and anti-armor (the main cannon) capabilities..

My only gripe (like many others) are the treads. This thing would've been just about perfect but for two things: Plastic treads instead of the V5 rubber treads, and I would've liked a little hatch that could've closed over the "gunner's turret" so that it'd be fully enclosed if you didn't want to put a figure in there, but ultimately that's a very minor pet peeve.

[CG82]

If it was black with a red canopy it wouldve been better or a even a darker blue with a black tinted canopy plus the rubbber threads.

[nilcam]

A few tips for the HISS. When assembling, move the knob to the forward position and then insert. It's much easier that way. Switch the gatling guns so that they hang lower than the turret. It looks better and makes more sense. Finally, enjoy it!

[jogunwarrior]

New HISS is a fine edition to my Cobra Armor division. I'm going to try and switch around the mini-guns so they hang lower than the turret.
I plan on picking up at least one more of these.

[Laser Viper]

A few tips for the HISS. When assembling, move the knob to the forward position and then insert. It's much easier that way. Switch the gatling guns so that they hang lower than the turret. It looks better and makes more sense. Finally, enjoy it!

Good Call! didnt think about swap the Gatling cannons around! like you said, now it makes sense.

[Laser Viper]

New HISS is a fine edition to my Cobra Armor division. I'm going to try and switch around the mini-guns so they hang lower than the turret.
I plan on picking up at least one more of these.

Love the pics! I see this version of the Hiss Tank fitting right in especially with Hiss II and the Crimson Hiss Tank.