Is G.I. Joe in the same universe as other 80's Hasbro toons

[GIJoeFan2012]

Is G.I. Joe, Transformers, Jem and the holograms, and Inhumanoids in the same universe? There are hints like seeing character(s) appearing in other shows or the same reporter showing up in all 4 shows. How many count the Transformers episode "Only Human" canon to G.I. Joe?

Is it possible to have cobra, giant robots, a singer with a double life, and monsters sharing the same world?

[Xenos]

All of the Sunbow series were hinted at being in the same universe, and the creators of those shows said in their minds they were in the same universe.

Toy wise, I think that the designers felt that COPS was in the same universe as GI Joe, only in the future.

In the Marvel comics GI Joe and Transformers were in the same universe.

[ndb]

The movie director from lights, camera, cobra was on tf. Hector Ramiriz was on Gijoe and tf, and I think another show. Cobra Commander was old snake in transformers.

Yeah, same continuity.

[skinny]

All of the Sunbow series were hinted at being in the same universe, and the creators of those shows said in their minds they were in the same universe.

Toy wise, I think that the designers felt that COPS was in the same universe as GI Joe, only in the future.

In the Marvel comics GI Joe and Transformers were in the same universe.
Checkpoint from COPS is BeachHead's son supposedly

The movie director from lights, camera, cobra was on tf. Hector Ramiriz was on Gijoe and tf, and I think another show. Cobra Commander was old snake in transformers.

Yeah, same continuity.

Flint's daughter Marissa Fairborn is in Transformers as well as Oktober Guard One. in addition to Old Snake mentioned above.

[Air-tight]

I own and have watched all of the series multiple times, the only confirmed true connection (verified by Buzz Dixon himself) between all of the main Sunbow series (GIJOE, Transformers, Jem, Inhumanoids) is Hector Ramirez, the TV news reporter (from the show "20 questions").

As mentioned above, there are several partial crossovers and easter eggs that connect some of the series as well, such as Melissa Faireborn (Flint's daughter) in TF. Flint himself (well, an impostor of Flint actually) also makes an unnamed cameo in the episode "The Killing Jar" from season 3.

There's also:
Old Snake (Cobra Commander) in "Only Human"
An October Guard cameo in "Prime Target"

In the GIJOE episode "The Gamesmaster", character models that closely resemble Optimus Prime and Shockwave are shown as 3d holographic board game characters in the opening scene of the episode.

There could be a few more connections here and there. I've also never heard anything that suggests beachhead's son was in COPS.

Hope this helps!

[Indiana Joe]

I own and have watched all of the series multiple times, the only confirmed true connection (verified by Buzz Dixon himself) between all of the main Sunbow series (GIJOE, Transformers, Jem, Inhumanoids) is Hector Ramirez, the TV news reporter (from the show "20 questions").

As mentioned above, there are several partial crossovers and easter eggs that connect some of the series as well, such as Melissa Faireborn (Flint's daughter) in TF. Flint himself (well, an impostor of Flint actually) also makes an unnamed cameo in the episode "The Killing Jar" from season 3.

There's also:
Old Snake (Cobra Commander) in "Only Human"
An October Guard cameo in "Prime Target"

In the GIJOE episode "The Gamesmaster", character models that closely resemble Optimus Prime and Shockwave are shown as 3d holographic board game characters in the opening scene of the episode.

There could be a few more connections here and there. I've also never heard anything that suggests beachhead's son was in COPS.

Hope this helps!

http://buzzdixon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/WorldOfHectorRamirez-300x210.jpg

click this link:
The Many Faces Of Hector Ramirez - BuzzDixon.com (http://buzzdixon.com/media/the-many-faces-of-hector-ramirez/)

So Eduardo M. Freyre observed: “Hector Ramirez sure gets around. Does this mean GI Joe, Transformers, Inhumanoids, and Jem take place all take in the same universe???”

Why, yes. Yes, it does.

And I almost managed to add My Little Pony to that same shared universe.

Hector Ramirez is the host of the popular TV news program “20 Questions” — well, in the tooniverse, at least. A parody of pompous newscasters, Hector turned out to be one of the most serviceable characters we came up with at Sunbow while making the Hasbro-based cartoons.

[skinny]

There could be a few more connections here and there. I've also never heard anything that suggests beachhead's son was in COPS.

Hope this helps!

"Larry Hama wrote most of the C.O.P.S. filecards as it turns out, just as he had done for G.I. Joe, so there is a good chance that the writing of Checkpoint's ID card was purely meant as an inside joke, and not necessarily as any sort of direct correlation between the G.I. Joe team and the Central Organization of Police Specialists. Still, merely by mentioning that Checkpoint's "father served with a top-secret anti-terrorist unit during the 80's and 90's" the connection was made. Normally, this wouldn't be a major deal, except that Checkpoint's file name just happens to be Wayne H. Sneedon III, which as luck would have it, is also Beachhead's real name in G.I. Joe land. The one oddity is that Beachhead isn't a Wayne Sneedon, Jr, he's just Wayne Sneedon. So who knows what happened to the Wayne Sneedon between Beachhead and Checkpoint. ;)"
source: COPS HQ - The Toy Archive (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm#idcard)
C.O.P.S. HQ - Checkpoint Review (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/reviews/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm)

its Marissa not Melissa

[thairestauranteur]

Hector Ramirez was in all of the series which sinches it. Especially Inhumanoids. That was such a good cartoon, I had to splurge the extra cash and by the DVD from England since they won't release it stateside.

[VideoViper]

In an ep of GI Joe Sci Fi can be seen watching an ep of Transformers, although nothing about the clip says it can't be news footage.

A red Cobra Commander makes an appearance in Jem.

I think all the sunbrow cartoons had similar easter eggs.


In the comic issues (EDIT: transformers comics which were later connected to GI Joe) 1-4 were part of the Marvel TF comic universe (Nick Fury & Spiderman made appearance) But after the title got it own full time release (everything after issue 4), it may have only been a quasi-Marvel universe title.

[Indiana Joe]

In an ep of GI Joe Sci Fi can be seen watching an ep of Transformers, although nothing about the clip says it can't be news footage.

A red Cobra Commander makes an appearance in Jem.

I think all the sunbrow cartoons had similar easter eggs.


In the comic issues 1-4 were part of the Marvel comic universe (Nick Fury & Spiderman made appearance) But after the title got it own full time release (everything after issue 4), it may have only been a quasi-Marvel universe title.

yes!
A red Cobra Commander makes an appearance in Jem.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAw7cdfQWFzzgtQg_Zh05oCzcD-84N33O14N1p3xqBzEWDSgfuZ6m5JmfloA
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-renegades-animation-discussion/143789-red-hooded-cobra-commander-jem.html
^click^link^

[Xenos]

In the comic issues 1-4 were part of the Marvel comic universe (Nick Fury & Spiderman made appearance) But after the title got it own full time release (everything after issue 4), it may have only been a quasi-Marvel universe title.

Are you sure about that? I don't remember Fury and Spider-Man showing up in any of those issues.

[VideoViper]

Are you sure about that? I don't remember Fury and Spider-Man showing up in any of those issues.

Marvel comics #1 Fury amoung other marvel types have 1 panel cameos. I think one of the shield agents asks if they should do something about the robots, & Nick says something to the affect, I got enough things on my hands.

Marvel Comics #3 is a blatant crossover with Black suited Spiderman. Spiderman is sad because Gears died, & they explain to him that Death for transformers is different because they can be repaired eventually.

[Xenos]

Marvel comics #1 Fury amoung other marvel types have 1 panel cameos. I think one of the shield agents asks if they should do something about the robots, & Nick says something to the affect, I got enough things on my hands.

Marvel Comics #3 is a blatant crossover with Black suited Spiderman. Spiderman is sad because Gears died, & they explain to him that Death for transformers is different because they can be repaired eventually.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the first four issues of the GI Joe comic.

[VideoViper]

Correction The crossovers happened in Marvel Transformers Comics issue #3
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/Tyrant_Lizard_King/Nicholas_DumDum_Transformers.jpg

[Crimson Rage]

A big load

[Air-tight]

"Larry Hama wrote most of the C.O.P.S. filecards as it turns out, just as he had done for G.I. Joe, so there is a good chance that the writing of Checkpoint's ID card was purely meant as an inside joke, and not necessarily as any sort of direct correlation between the G.I. Joe team and the Central Organization of Police Specialists. Still, merely by mentioning that Checkpoint's "father served with a top-secret anti-terrorist unit during the 80's and 90's" the connection was made. Normally, this wouldn't be a major deal, except that Checkpoint's file name just happens to be Wayne H. Sneedon III, which as luck would have it, is also Beachhead's real name in G.I. Joe land. The one oddity is that Beachhead isn't a Wayne Sneedon, Jr, he's just Wayne Sneedon. So who knows what happened to the Wayne Sneedon between Beachhead and Checkpoint. ;)"
source: COPS HQ - The Toy Archive (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm#idcard)
C.O.P.S. HQ - Checkpoint Review (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/reviews/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm)

Cool! Thanks for the information, that was news to me. I wouldn't put it past Larry, he's a funny guy and his work is full of little surprises. The last time I met him he told me a lot of little inside jokes from the filecards

its Marissa not Melissa
Haha I did know that too, not sure why I typed "Melissa" though. She's a member of Earth Defense Corps (EDC) if I recall correctly. Oh well, thanks for clearing it up.

[mattymatt]

I just read that the Inhumanoids had a character sabre jet with his real name being Brad J Armbuster

[Xenos]

"Larry Hama wrote most of the C.O.P.S. filecards as it turns out, just as he had done for G.I. Joe, so there is a good chance that the writing of Checkpoint's ID card was purely meant as an inside joke, and not necessarily as any sort of direct correlation between the G.I. Joe team and the Central Organization of Police Specialists. Still, merely by mentioning that Checkpoint's "father served with a top-secret anti-terrorist unit during the 80's and 90's" the connection was made. Normally, this wouldn't be a major deal, except that Checkpoint's file name just happens to be Wayne H. Sneedon III, which as luck would have it, is also Beachhead's real name in G.I. Joe land. The one oddity is that Beachhead isn't a Wayne Sneedon, Jr, he's just Wayne Sneedon. So who knows what happened to the Wayne Sneedon between Beachhead and Checkpoint. ;)"
source: COPS HQ - The Toy Archive (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm#idcard)
C.O.P.S. HQ - Checkpoint Review (http://copshq.generalsjoes.com/reviews/figures/Series%202/checkpoint.htm)

its Marissa not Melissa
Those Cops figures were really cool. I was always disappointed that I never had them as a kid. It's interesting just how many of the code names were reused for/from Joes. Bullet-Proof, Longarm, Barricade, Mace, Hardtop, Airwave, and Roadblock

Also, it might just be coincidence (though they came out within a year of each other), but both the Cops and Joes Hardtop is originally from Chicago, so there is another possible link.

[arthurdent]

There were several easter eggs in both GI Joe and Transformers. One is, of course, Old Snake in an episode of Transformers but in one episode of transformers the transformers were watching TV: The TV showed man-sized reptilian aliens battling human soldiers, and one of the men shouts "All Right Men, Lets Get Those Snakes!" which was shouted constantly in the GI Joe series. In the comic books there were several GI Joe/Transformers crossover comic books, in which Megatron and CC hatch the usual evil plans. Since Hasbro owned all those properties it's not surprizing they'd try to link them together: This was also done in both "Lost In Space" and "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" in the 1960's: Both were owned by the same company, Irwin Allen Productions, and the monster costumes and a few sets were used in both series. Also I do remember reading a long time back that the TV series "Mayberry RFD", "Green Acres", "Gomer Pyle", And "Pettycoat Junction" were also linked together. Gomer Pyle was a relative of somebody from Mayberry RFD, Green Acres was close to Pettycoat junction, and so on. Since all of these programs were produced by the same company there was some crossovers between them. For example, a pig named Arnold Ziffle was on Green Acres but also appeared on some of the other shows as well. And In Batman(Adam West version) there were a few episodes in which Green Hornet(Made by the same company) made an appearance and was supposedly an old friend of Bruce Wayne. But another episode of Batman had Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson watching the Green Hornet TV series.

[skinny]

There were several easter eggs in both GI Joe and Transformers. One is, of course, Old Snake in an episode of Transformers but in one episode of transformers the transformers were watching TV: The TV showed man-sized reptilian aliens battling human soldiers, and one of the men shouts "All Right Men, Lets Get Those Snakes!" which was shouted constantly in the GI Joe series. In the comic books there were several GI Joe/Transformers crossover comic books, in which Megatron and CC hatch the usual evil plans. Since Hasbro owned all those properties it's not surprizing they'd try to link them together: This was also done in both "Lost In Space" and "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" in the 1960's: Both were owned by the same company, Irwin Allen Productions, and the monster costumes and a few sets were used in both series. Also I do remember reading a long time back that the TV series "Mayberry RFD", "Green Acres", "Gomer Pyle", And "Pettycoat Junction" were also linked together. Gomer Pyle was a relative of somebody from Mayberry RFD, Green Acres was close to Pettycoat junction, and so on. Since all of these programs were produced by the same company there was some crossovers between them. For example, a pig named Arnold Ziffle was on Green Acres but also appeared on some of the other shows as well. And In Batman(Adam West version) there were a few episodes in which Green Hornet(Made by the same company) made an appearance and was supposedly an old friend of Bruce Wayne. But another episode of Batman had Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson watching the Green Hornet TV series.

Make Room for Daddy or the Danny Thomas Show spun off Andy Griffith when Danny was stopped by a small town sheriff (both shows were Desilu Productions) Gomer Pyle was Goober's cousin on the Andy Griffith show, and when Jim Neighbors (Gomer) became a Marine Andy was at the barracks trying to help him. Mayberry RFD also had Sheriff Andy but focused more on Harold Sprague and Sam (Ken Berry)

the Clampetts (Beverly Hillbillies) were said to be from near Hooterville the town in Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Sam Drucker ran the local store and was in both. Green Acres is connected to Hogans Heroes because Oliver was shot down before meeting his wife and was supposed to meet up with Hogan to escape. Granny from Hillbillies was on Mr Ed.
Poobala.com's Crossovers Spin Offs Master Page (http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html)



back on topic
the fact is that all these Hasbro Properties and shows used the same names for a simple reason, less copyrights to mess with. that and it was neat to see a future Flint and a future CC, which made for a decent story.

[arthurdent]

So true. It also gave them a chance to reuse some of the backgrounds and there would be no disputes about using and reusing character names or appearances.

[ChaplainAsst]

The Marvel heroes crossover into TF turned out to be regrettable, as issue 3 had some real legal hoops to get reprinted. GI Joe and TFs have always been somewhat conjoined as they came out about the same time and were both quite popular. (It is one of the more annoying facts of life that TFs designers resist a Joe crossover in the toys, while crossover into just about every other line!).

Jem always seemed to be in the same universe as well. COPS seemed completely different - but then so did GI Joe Extreme!

[cobracobra]

How can we not forget Inhumanoids and Visionaries? Any ancient alien correlation with those awesome tv shows?