chap mei v-22 osprey

[part 2]

hi guys
so i won one on ebay
i want to make casts of it to sell to tankers and the like
i have no experience doing this
so how do i go about it?

[freakintiger]

You will need to find an experienced resin caster to contract with, one who has experience with large molds and production casting. Bear this in mind though, resin casting materials are not inexpensive. This fact will drive up the price of your end product, perhaps to the point where you will not be able to find a market for it. Remember, you will be offering a resin kit your customers will have to have the skill to assemble and paint, unless you do the assembly and painting which in turn will drive up the price of the end product. Further, even if you offer it as a kit, resin kits offer challenges well beyond your ordinary plastic model kits. This will alienate most potential buyers. Further still, since the Chap Mei Osprey is an inaccurate toy, you will not be able to capture a secondary market of experienced model builders interested in building a 1/18 scale Osprey.

Have fun!

[Jedi_Master_Ben]

Wow!

What an ambitious undertaking. Resin casting is a major expense, not anyone can just jump into it. To do it right, you need preasure chambers (pots) big enough to house the molds. A cheaper method might be in vacume forming the hull pieces.

If I were doing this project, I would make a mold of the ouside, pour plaster to make a hard negative of the outer shell and then use that as the mold in the vacume chamber. In vacume molding, warm styreen sheets are layed on top of the mold and an outer frame goes over the styreen edges holds it in place. The vacume is turned on and all the air is sucked out causing the styreen wrap around the mold, taking on all the details and shapes. Once the vacume is shut off and the styreen is cool, the sheet is pulled off the mold and the machine is rest for the next piece of plastic. The shells are then cut out of the styreen sheet. Some trimming and sanding will be needed.

Now this process is only good if you don't care to replicate the interior. The shells would be glued together with either model glue or pvc glue. The glue fuses the plastic together. The smaller pieces can be molded in resin and glued into place or screwed in.

[part 2]

ok whole idea out the window lol thanks for the tips guys :)

[DaSmokeEater]

I've never even SEEN one on EBay! Way to go! Was it on the UK site? How much was it? etc. etc.

[oliverbox]

hi guys
so i won one on ebay
i want to make casts of it to sell to tankers and the like
i have no experience doing this
so how do i go about it?

That's awesome. When did you win it?

[part 2]

it was on the ebay uk site
i got it for about £80 is with postage but it was shill bidded so ill talk to ebay when i get it to see if i can gat any cash back
long story but it WAS shill bidding
he had items listed that had bids
next day after the auction ended they was re listed
also when the auction ended i wasnt the highest bidder but imidiatly got a second chance offer

[part 2]

it also shipped internationally
eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251045568866?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)

[DaSmokeEater]

I hope you get it and everything's fine! For what it's worth, I've had more than one of an item that I list on Ebay one after the other, if the second chance bids are good enough I'll offer them up without relisting sometimes.

Keep an eye on the guy, we had a scammer around the Tank a few years ago selling them and not coming through with the product.

[part 2]

I've never even SEEN one on EBay! Way to go! Was it on the UK site? How much was it? etc. etc.

That's awesome. When did you win it?

I hope you get it and everything's fine! For what it's worth, I've had more than one of an item that I list on Ebay one after the other, if the second chance bids are good enough I'll offer them up without relisting sometimes.

Keep an eye on the guy, we had a scammer around the Tank a few years ago selling them and not coming through with the product.

yeah the asshole got me too :C krei liger or somthign

[oliverbox]

Actually, I bid on one in the UK a few days ago... Hmmm. This sounds shady simply because you never see them come up on ebay. You don't, by any chance, have a link to the listing do you?

This is starting to sound too good to be true.

[oliverbox]

yeah the asshole got me too :C krei liger or somthign

Kei Liger
Oh, I could write a book. I lost over $400 to Kei Liger.
I am almost worried that this is him again.

[DaSmokeEater]

He has solid feedback at high numbers, if he was a scammer odds are something would be out of line in the past year, it looks like ya did GREAT!

[part 2]

Kei Liger
Oh, I could write a book. I lost over $400 to Kei Liger.
I am almost worried that this is him again.

i messaged him form an alt account a while back he didnt have any and i siad what ahppend to my money? contact ceased

He has solid feedback at high numbers, if he was a scammer odds are something would be out of line in the past year, it looks like ya did GREAT!

it looks good yeah :) time will tell
only worry is the feedback is all from accounts made in 2010 and all short messages

[fireflyguy]

it was on the ebay uk site
i got it for about £80 is with postage but it was shill bidded so ill talk to ebay when i get it to see if i can gat any cash back
long story but it WAS shill bidding
he had items listed that had bids
next day after the auction ended they was re listed
also when the auction ended i wasnt the highest bidder but imidiatly got a second chance offer

Man, this happens all too often. Rotten, it is.

[oliverbox]

This is looking very fishy... Hmmmm.

[CrimsonGuard101]

1) get some playdoh
2) squich as much of the playdoh around the ship being careful to mold it 100%
3) remove the playdoh once it hardens carefully not to break the mold
4) Glue the mold together
5) Get some plastic resin of any choice or type you can find
6) pour into the mold
7) wait 6 days and then break loose the playdoh

Add paint if needed.

[oliverbox]

it was on the ebay uk site
i got it for about £80 is with postage but it was shill bidded so ill talk to ebay when i get it to see if i can gat any cash back
long story but it WAS shill bidding
he had items listed that had bids
next day after the auction ended they was re listed
also when the auction ended i wasnt the highest bidder but imidiatly got a second chance offer

What does "Shill Bidding" mean?

[oliverbox]

1) get some playdoh
2) squich as much of the playdoh around the ship being careful to mold it 100%
3) remove the playdoh once it hardens carefully not to break the mold
4) Glue the mold together
5) Get some plastic resin of any choice or type you can find
6) pour into the mold
7) wait 6 days and then break loose the playdoh

Add paint if needed.

This sounds like... (wait for it)... "a recipe for disaster". ;)

[Rambo]

When will you should get it?

[oliverbox]

When will you should get it?

Well, this is the problem:
We should both be getting one. Time will tell if that happens, or if one or both of us has been grifted. This just sucks. Hunting these things down is literally like trying to find unicorns.

[fireflyguy]

Is this the vehicle in question?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LBMV6U8u_R4/S9NwWyLFLrI/AAAAAAAAGR0/HZqnKynwIHs/s1600/sfv_o_1.jpg

[Scotty97]

With the way Paypal and eBay work now, if this guy is scamming you guys, you should have no problem getting your $ back(though I hope you don't have to and actually get the Osprey). If you don't receive it, he has to provide proof that he sent and you actually received the exact item in the auction. Otherwise, PayPal will reverse the transaction and refund your money. I unfortunately had a couple shady buyers pull this on me for small items which I don't usually put Delivery Confirmation on... won't make that mistake again.

[oktoberguard]

I bought some of the things listed from him, and received them today, so I wouldn't worry. One of the lots I won was one he listed a duplicate of after the auction. I received all the things I won though. I also bid on the osprey, as I'm always keen to have more. As someone who has the vehicle I can tell you it would be an horrendous job to try and cast, before you even get to the rotor tilt issue and that the wing is a separate cast that swivels to cover the body when stowed. In fact, instead of trying to cast one etc to have more, I think it's easier to convert or customise other vehicles. The osprey dimensions aren't quite the same as the chap mei helicopter. My ospreys are in storage at the mo (optimistically making space for the coming of the ab-115 shark in the uk in may... A week to go!) but otherwise I'd take pics to illustrate my point.

For this sort of toy, it is not that hard to find in the uk, so I was shocked at what it went for when I saw the end bid...
I suspect smyths toys will have them in stock at some point as they vary and update their soldier force offerings(also where I'm waiting for the ab-115 sharks).

If they do become available there, I'd gladly go get some for trades.
Another source at times is elc, and they might still have some in some of their brick and mortar shops here in the uk, though they don't carry the military theme, but rather dinosaur and safari etc, usually.

[part 2]

I JUST GOT IT TODAY HOLY CRAP ITS MAHOOSIVE
casting is out the question

[part 2]

and the ab-115 shark was at my local TRU (lakeside essex) that thing was massive

[oktoberguard]

One thing about the osprey if you want to customise it, it takes quite a few layers to paint, even with humbrol enamels. I painted the tail of one about 5 times.. I have no idea why that is....

[Rambo]

Congrats part 2 !!!
Is it your turn Oliver?

[oliverbox]

Well, I'm away from home until next week... if it's there when I get back, I'm throwing a party and you're all invited.

[Rambo]

got it now?

[oliverbox]

Got it today. I will try to post a more complete review soon.
But for now, I'm as happy as I've ever been as a Joe fan.
The holy grail has been found. It's awesome.

[Jedi_Master_Ben]

I am happy for you!

I know you been searching it seems for years. Hope to see some pics from you and your Grail.

[oliverbox]

I am happy for you!

I know you been searching it seems for years. Hope to see some pics from you and your Grail.

Thanks, buddy. Yeah, it's been like 4 or 5 years and several hundred dollars. I'll try to get some pics soon. I'm just thrilled.

[Raw Dog]

That Osprey is pretty cool. I wish TRU would release it in the True Heroes line.

[Rambo]

Congrats Oliver!!! I'm glad you finally got it. Please post pictures and a review, it deserves that.

[part 2]

:D we finally did it dude :) ill give you the honours of the review :)

[oliverbox]

Pics & Review coming soon.