True Heroes F-22 Review

[Shin Densetsu]

For a long while now, joe fans have been clamoring for a F-22 Raptor for their joes, especially something that was compatible with their 25th anniversary/modern era figures. Sure there already was a G.I. Joe F-22, the Thunderwing, from the Valor Vs Venom line. Yet that toy was not as accurate to to it's real-life counterpart, than previous joe jets were to theirs. The body was fat, had tiny wings, and it was very obvious that the sculpt and proportions had give way to the gimmicks. Also, it was hard to get 25th anniversary figures such as the comic pack Ace to sit inside.

The True Heroes F-22 came out of the blue and showed up unannounced on Toys 'R' Us shelves earlier this month for $24.99. No one saw it coming. The first thing joe fans wondered was "will our anniversary/modern era joes fit inside?". Do joe fans really have an ideal F-22 for their joes to sit in? Read on and find out!

[Shin Densetsu]

The F-22 comes with JDAM(Joint Direct Attack Munitions) bombs(x4), and AMRAAM(Advanced Medium Range Air to Air Missles)(x2). The cannon port above the intake on the right is sculpted in the closed position. Most of you know that the F-22 carries it's weapons internally, however on the battlefield, after aerial superiority has been established and stealth is no longer a priority, the F-22 can be armed with external weaponry on pylons. This toy lacks internal weapon bays, but if it had those the price would have been much higher for sure. It would have been cool to see(like for the sidewinder missle bay shown below) but I understand why those were not implemented.


The weapons can be mounted on four pylons, one weapon per pylon. I do wish this included four missles as opposed to two, I wanted to equip my Raptor with four air to air missles. Plus it would be nice to have the amount of missles match with the amount of bombs. Oh well. If you want to mix and match, the weapons mount on the pylons the exact same way as on the Power Team Elite(PTE) planes, and the missles from the PTE F/A-18 are compatible.

For that matter, the weaponry and accessories from the PTE A-10 are most likely compatible too(the sidewinders on the PTE F/A-18 and A-10 are the same, and those are the ones I tried on my F-22). Due to the same design used for the pylons, and overall quality/design of the toy, this leads me to believe that this toy was designed/produced in coordination with M & C Toy Centre, the makers of PTE. Now the manufacturer's markings on the bottom of the plane show the logo for MotorMax Toys. It turns out that the recently released True Heroes Blackhawk may actually be a retooled PTE Blackhawk, and also sports the Motormax Toys logo. Either the companies are working together, Motormax bought out M & C, or Motormax absorbed the latter.

[Shin Densetsu]

The detail on the engines is very impressive. For such an affordable toy I honestly did not expect to see such great amount of detail. Very rarely do you ever see this kind of detail on similarly priced jet toys.

The afterburner is sculpted with impressive detail. The nozzles have detailed grill lines, and the nozzles are layered, with the pieces that actuate the vectoring on the real plane sculpted within the nozzle. This detail surprised me.

Sadly, while the engines have a lot of detail that enhance the realism and depth, the intake is opposite. The interior is not cut out, it is just a solid piece of plastic.

[Shin Densetsu]

The landing gear are sturdy and simple, with sculpted detail. The gear are short, accurate to the real F-22. The landing gear are attached to doors, so when folded up there are no huge, toyetic gaps. This is a common feature on PTE aircraft, further leading me to believe that this is actually a PTE aircraft. If we see this thing at Big Lots with a PTE pilot, there's your proof! The nose gear is secure, but lowers a bit too easily. If you are putting your Rattler through barrel rolls or having a dogfight with Cobra planes, the nose gear will not flop down out of nowhere, so no worries there.

The rear landing gear are spring loaded, and snap into place, providing a very secure position either when closed or open. Both the nose and rear gear have small indentations near the doors, and small bumps to aid in retracting the gear, another common feature on PTE aircraft. The gear bays are not very detailed, but in some way that is to be expected, not very many joe planes have detailed landing gear bays. The rear gear doors are sculpted in a way to blend in with the panels/panel lines on the underside of the fuselage, and it is impressive to see these fit flush when retracted. This was another thing that I did not expect.

[Shin Densetsu]

The F-22 has a few parts that need to be attached. Mainly the edges of the wings, and the vertical stabilizers. That's about it. It is so simple that no instructions were included. The pieces are very durable, and meant to detach, rather than break, if pressure is applied. Basically this is a toy detailed enough to satisfy the older collector, but durable enough for kids to play with.

The console in the cockpit is easily detached, and here we see the only piece prone to breaking. It is attached via a small peg, just make sure not to bend the peg too far.

[Shin Densetsu]

The canopy has a frame painted around it, accurate to the real F-22. The console in the cockpit has detail, but not all around it. The seat within the cockpit is detailed, as is the surrounding area. It may not seem like it, but there is enough room for a 25th anniversary/modern era figure to fit in, and still close the canopy with enough clearance. The Ace I have in the cockpit is the 25th anniversary comic pack version, with the helmet from the VVV Ace. Even with the helmet one, Ace fits in just fine.

Now I've read comments saying that Ace looks too big for the plane, that the cockpit is too small, et al. Honestly, we have seen worse on the Thunderwing(which you will see later and had a huge cockpit with tiny wings), and on the Rattler(where there were complaints about the cockpit looking huge). It is true that Ace is out of scale, in a larger scale than the plane. Ace is in 3-3/4"-4" scale, which is just about 1/18 scale, while this plane, is 1/32 or very close to it, with enough room for a 1/18 scale pilot to fit in. There are other joe planes that did this, like the Skystriker. I do realize the concerns that were posted, however I would rather have a smaller cockpit that just happens to fit a 1/18 figure, and with accurate proportions for the vehicle overall, rather than a vehicle with a huge cockpit obvious to the naked eye that it can fit a 1/18 figure, but with proportions that suffer(Rattler canopy/cockpit, Thunderwing overall).

[Shin Densetsu]

This toy has details all over the place, which appeals to us older joe collectors, and kids might find fascinating. The tailhook(used for emergency landings on runways, not carriers since this is a USAF plane) is sculpted on, but sadly not retractable. Nonetheless, it is there and could have been easy to overlook, so I am glad Motormax went out of there way to include it.

Unlike previous PTE planes, this toy barely came with stickers, and these stickers were preapplied. This is dissapointing, I would at least like to have numerical stickers and above all, the US military aircraft roundel. I mean come on, not even that came with it? Luckily, the stickers we did get do not look as childish as the old Elite Operations stickers that came with TRU's Elite Operations repackaged toy releases. I believe TRU is phasing out the Elite Operations name in favor of True Heroes, but still repackaging the same companies' toys, only this time with lackluster figures, instead of the superior PTE figures. We have the F-22 sticker, which was shown a lot during the ATF competition(which the F-22 won). Then the True Heroes stickers, which have wings for the wing stickers, and then crossed lightning bolts on the vertical stabilizers. The sticker designs are okay, but lacking, we should have at least gotten a sticker sheet with roundels, and numerical markings.

[Shin Densetsu]

The pilot included with the Raptor will not be a permanent asset in anyone's collection. We should have gotten a PTE pilot instead. The pilot in this set is rubbery, prone to stuck joints which leads to breakage, and only has 4-5 points of articulation(head..maybe, arms, and legs). I haven't thought much of this figure, in fact, I have never placed it in the cockpit, probably never will. Besides, anyone getting this F-22 wants it because they want a great F-22 toy, or want an F-22 for their joes. This figure is far from being a highlight of this set, in fact it is the opposite.

[Shin Densetsu]

This toy is fun to play with. Don't be fooled by it's size. Not only is it highly durable, it is light, and will most likely not weigh your arm down. Kids will have no problem lifting this toy up, and zooming it around the backyard.

[Shin Densetsu]

If you want a F-22 Raptor for your joe collection, skip the Thunderwing and buy the True Heroes F-22. The True Heroes version is far more accurate to it's real life counterpart, with no bloated body/small wings/obvious spacious cockpit for joe figures that is out of scale with the rest of the body. Hell, buying the Thunderwing now would most likely be more expensive(it was $35.99 upon release), and 25th anniversary Ace will not fit in it's front seat with a helmet on. I'm surprised at how accurate the True Heroes F-22 turned out. The only thing the Thunderwing has over the True Heroes F-22 is the paint scheme. That's it. The gimmicks on the Thunderwing are nice, but I hate how the proportions and overall aesthetic were completely compromised for them. With the True Heroes F-22, there were no gimmicks to compromise anything for. The Thunderwing is, and looks far more toyetic. The True Heroes F-22 is the F-22 we have been waiting for. I only hope this is the beginning; a sign of more great joe compatible planes to come from Motormax Toys. Hell if future Motormax planes turn out anything like this, I will be extremely happy.

Check the pics below to see how the True Heroes F-22 stacks up to the Thunderwing. This comparison was inevitable. You'll see why I like this thing so much better than the Thunderwing. In comparison, the Thunderwing looks like a Super Deformed(SD) version of the F-22, whereas the True Heroes version looks like an accurate representation of the F-22. Now that I have the True Heroes F-22, the Thunderwing looks more like a trainer aircraft that the joes would use in preparation for using the F-22 or YF-23 Skystriker II from G.I. Joe:Resolute.

[Imperial_Ozma]

Awesome review, thanks for sharing.

My question is copypasta from Macross World, but maybe people hear would like to know the answer too... feel free to answer me on either board, or just copypasta your response too (however you like):


I wonder if it's in Canadian Toys R' Us stores... and that makes me wonder. you say in the review that it's 1/32 (or so), I have never even considered looking at 1/32 scale vehicles for GI Joes... I just assumed they'd never work and look silly.

I guess on a bigger item like armour or a plane it matters less and less as you get bigger. But have you ever picked up any other 1/32 items that are 25th Compatible?

[Shin Densetsu]

I wonder if it's in Canadian Toys R' Us stores... and that makes me wonder. you say in the review that it's 1/32 (or so), I have never even considered looking at 1/32 scale vehicles for GI Joes... I just assumed they'd never work and look silly.

I guess on a bigger item like armour or a plane it matters less and less as you get bigger.
It doesn't look silly so long as the vehicle is big enough. On a WWII warbird this is impossible at that scale, but when a company like Hasbro or Motormax uses a 1/32 toy as a base, and is meant to be able to fit a joe size figure all along, it works. For example the Skystriker was 1/32 or very close to it, and look how that turned out.

I haven't gotten any 1/32 models that were 25th compatible, as most of them are not big enough to house the figures(armor/wwII aircraft). You are better off waiting for PTE, Hasbro, or Motormax to make "joe scale" vehicles, hope they might be in 1/32 like the F-22 or Skystriker, and made from the start to accomodate joes.

[Deceptichage]

Wow! Great review. I'll take a look at this when I stop by TRU.

[Shin Densetsu]

Wow! Great review. I'll take a look at this when I stop by TRU.
Thanks man! Trust me, it's a worthy addition to any joe fan's collection. Just in time for xmas too!

[DevilDog00]

Wow! Great review. I'll take a look at this when I stop by TRU.

Thanks man! Trust me, it's a worthy addition to any joe fan's collection. Just in time for xmas too!



No kidding great info. I just need to let my better half know so that she can get it for me. :D

[Xerofall]

I just told my wife that I want this... she said it's not GI Joe... gah... she's a tough cookie.

[MeLikeJinx]

I just told my wife that I want this... she said it's not GI Joe... gah... she's a tough cookie.
LOL. Your wife is just looking out for you. Yo Joe! LOL. *just joking*

I saw this at my TRU and was kind of surprised at how big it is. It looks a bit smaller in the pictures. The only problem IMO is that being all black makes it look more Cobra-ish than stealthy. LOL. The landing gears simply rock though and the zig-zag stealth etching all over the plane was a nice touch.

[Shin Densetsu]

I just told my wife that I want this... she said it's not GI Joe... gah... she's a tough cookie.
But it fits modern era G.I. Joes! Also...show her the comparison pics at the end of my review, where it shows the True Heroes F-22 vs the G.I. Joe version of the F-22...I think she'll end up giving you the True Heroes one man!
The only problem IMO is that being all black makes it look more Cobra-ish than stealthy. LOL.
See we could rectify that if it had at least come with US roundels. I mean come on, not even those? Nearly EVERY military jet toy comes with those! I do agree, with the black with red trim, it does come off more like a Cobra aircraft.

[Barefoot Jedi]

I was ogling this the other day.

I plan to get it and put some COBRA stickers on it and make it a Night Raptor to complement the Night Raven.

[SgtMajor]

Thanks for the review. I picked mine up yesterday and put the modern era ACE pilot from VvV line. To be honest-it just looks as real as it gets. As far as the plane, please be careful with the cockpit, I didnt break mine, but once its removed from the plane-it does go back on, just doesnt stay in the socket as well when you open the cockpit again. Great review by the way. I was looking at the picx and wondering if you could compare the size to the SKYSTRIKER, for all intents and purposes, I think the F-22 is bigger. If they can do this, they can do the SKYSTRIKER. TRU and motomax would have a windfall of unbelievable proportions. Obviously they can do a simple, toyetic Joe jet (yet again) then they can obviously do the jet that collectors and fans have been wanting since the getgo. I do like the jet, but the Skystriker is still meaner looking and cooler. Its just my opinion, nothing more. I like the F22 and they did a great job, I just want them to put out another cool jet.

[Dawg99]

cool review looks pretty sweet

[Shin Densetsu]

I plan to get it and put some COBRA stickers on it and make it a Night Raptor to complement the Night Raven.It would actually look bad ass with Night Raven logos. The only reason I decided not to put any on mine is because I want mine to stay a joe version(that and I already had plans for it).
Thanks for the review.
No prob man!
I was looking at the picx and wondering if you could compare the size to the SKYSTRIKER, for all intents and purposes, I think the F-22 is bigger.
If you guys want, I can place it next to the carcass of my Night Boomer(Night Force Skystriker that a neighbor broke way back in 90) and shoot off a pic.
I think the F-22 is bigger.
If it isn't bigger it is very close. The True Heroes F-22 is about the same size as the PTE F/A-18, which in turn was actually a little longer than the Skystriker
If they can do this, they can do the SKYSTRIKER. TRU and motomax would have a windfall of unbelievable proportions.
Man I really hope Motormax makes an F-14. See Motormax is actually no stranger to it, they've made diecast models of it before in smaller scales. I hope that they are the company that finally gives us joe compatible Tomcats, Flankers and Fulcrums. By the F-22 alone, I have complete faith in them being able to pull that task off.
I do like the jet, but the Skystriker is still meaner looking and cooler. Its just my opinion, nothing more. I like the F22 and they did a great job, I just want them to put out another cool jet.
Completely agreed man. What I find interesting is that over the years, PTE, and now Motormax, has addressed desires by the 1/18 and joe scale communities. Now the 1/18 guys like myself still don't have an accurate 1/18 A-10. What came out last year? A joe scale version. For a guy that collects both, I was excited when the PTE A-10 came out. So that's one bird down. What other planes are high in demand from both communities? F-22, F-14, F-15, SU-27 family, MIG-29, MI-24 HIND, Commanche, et al. The F-14 is mentioned A LOT. Since the Raptor and Hog have already been made in "joe scale(as in compatible with joes, but not necessarily true 1/18 scale)", I think either the Commanche, HIND or Tomcat are next. I think the latter two are more likely. Part of it is wishful thinking, the other is logic, considering that those two are requested more so than the Commanche and 4th gen Russian fighters.

[matthetiger]

Excellent review!

This is a great vehicle.

I just picked one up last weekend and I highly recommend it for purchase.

With a little help from Cobra Stickers, Replacement and restoration stickers for classic G.I. Joe vehicles. (http://www.cobrastickers.com) I am going to make mine part of my Cobra Air Force :-).

The factory details on this vehicle are surprisingly well done and most of my figures have no problem fitting inside.

Definitely worth a purchase.

[SgtMajor]

I think I just saw the F-18 in TRUE HEROES packaging. Im still buying them, just buying the older versions right now due to the better figures.

The box with the F-22 is the same size as the F-18 and as you know, I was able to fit a GI JOE SKYSTRIKER in the box with NO problems. If you hear anything please let us all know. I will buy every F-14 TOMCAT I see, just to help keep the sales up. I have about 9 f-18 hornets right now. I like them in the grey primer look, the white decals look better that way. I do kinda wish they would have some sort of instrument panel/hud sticker display-that would rock.

[Shin Densetsu]

The box with the F-22 is the same size as the F-18 and as you know, I was able to fit a GI JOE SKYSTRIKER in the box with NO problems.
I did see that man. I love the Skystriker. The Tomcat is an excellent plane. I might just finally bite the bullet and start buying some loose vintage samples. I am itching to start customizing.

[bountyhunter69]

A little more info on Motormax and M&C Toy Center. The two companys are actually neighbors. Their addresses are across the street from each other. I believe they also have their toys built in the same factory in Dongguan

[Shin Densetsu]

A little more info on Motormax and M&C Toy Center. The two companys are actually neighbors. Their addresses are across the street from each other. I believe they also have their toys built in the same factory in Dongguan
WOW! Any idea on if the F-22 and the Blackhawk in True Heroes packaging really were collaborations? Seems more likely hearing that to me. Any news on future items?

[Garvy]

Given the success of this F-22, I'd really love it if they came out with the F-35!

The F-14 and the F-117 would be great as well but since these two planes have already been decommissioned, an F-35 would be a very welcome alternative!

[The Batman]

I went to TRU 3 times in the past week and I still have not bought this plane. I REALLY WANT IT BAD!!! I just don't have the cash right now because I am trying to buy the actual Joe product but let it be known that this plane will be mine before 2009!! THIS I COMMAND!!

[Shin Densetsu]

an F-35 would be a very welcome alternative!
I'd rather have it as an addition rather than an alternative. Why not have all 3? Also, the F-35 was rumored last year, and for all we know, might have been one of the new items made for next year that cannot be revealed until the retail stores have seen it.

[Shin Densetsu]

I went to TRU 3 times in the past week and I still have not bought this plane. I REALLY WANT IT BAD!!! I just don't have the cash right now because I am trying to buy the actual Joe product but let it be known that this plane will be mine before 2009!! THIS I COMMAND!!
Looks like there will be plenty to go around man, take your time, it is worth the wait.

[Pimp Daddy Darklon]

Great reviews Shin, makes me want to have one though I don't really like to have planes around because of space limitations. Choppers on the other hand, I like. Maybe you can review the TRue Heroes Blackhawk & compare it to other 1:18 BH.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Its a great plane. I am kinda of torn between keeping it black or painting it up like a Skystriker replacement. Not sure if I want to do 2 one for a Night Raptor and a Skystriker replacement.

The pilot can be intersting that comes with it, I chopped of his head to play aorund with it to make a new pilot...hes not a perfect fig just toying with the helm design since the plastic is easily drilled out to fit on a 25th fig

[Garvy]

I'd rather have it as an addition rather than an alternative. Why not have all 3? Also, the F-35 was rumored last year, and for all we know, might have been one of the new items made for next year that cannot be revealed until the retail stores have seen it.

True! I see your point! The more the merrier, right?

To think, the F-22 was actually a surprise release of sorts so it stands to reason that other types of planes could just pop out in retail all of a sudden!

[SPECTER]

Man I want these guys making an F-14 F-117 and a Mi-24 Hind Right now!!! and maybe a cheap SuperCobra down the road
Id buy a ton of them.

I dont want a f-35 almost the same but its alot smaller than the f-22.


Question to anyone that has the F-22, Im kinda low on my joe budget right now so whats more worth the money, this or a loose Skystriker(has all parts) around 30$-55$

[SgtMajor]

Skystriker is totally worth the money-if it has everything-easily its worth over $50. The f22 will be around for awhile, good deals on skystrikers are intermittent.

[steelbrig]

Great review, Shin! I'd love to get my hands on one of those F-22s!

[Barefoot Jedi]

Got mine today. If anyone was wondering, 25th Wild Weasel WILL fit in the cockpit though very tightly and his neck is twisted.

The ugly stickers peel right off. I need to find some money and get some Rattler repro stickers to do this plane and this other one I bought some time ago.

Here it is with other COBRA aircraft:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk171/Slowedyourmind/GIJOE/DSCN1034.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk171/Slowedyourmind/GIJOE/DSCN1033.jpg

[Elite Force Cobra]

this jet is bad azz!!!!

[MeLikeJinx]

Got mine today.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk171/Slowedyourmind/GIJOE/DSCN1034.jpg
Oh cool, it fits on top of the Leviathan too. LOL. It does make the Rattler look puny though.

[CrimsonGuard101]

What is a leviathan?

[MeLikeJinx]

What is a leviathan?
LOL. It is a custom made Cobra Aircraft Carrier made out of giant Rubbermaid Storage Bins. LOL.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs/19701-cobra-aircraft-carrier-leviathan-4.html

[CrimsonGuard101]

OH! LOL thought those were storage bins he kept the joes and stuff in...

[samjjones]

The F-22 looks great.

I'm very happy with the PTE/TRU stuff I've previously bought. I have the PTE Blackhawk with Tomahawk decals, F-18 done up Skystriker style, the Mutt Jeep as a personal ride for Gen. Hawk, the SEAL/Nightwatch set for Torpedo, etc. Never bought the A-10, because 1) it is HUGE, and 2) I just KNEW that Hasbro would release a proper Rattler.

The more variety of planes/choppers in this scale, the better. Good job TRU!

[Gunzlingr]

Looks cool, I prefer helicopters but that is just me.

[Lifeline 71]

So, is it really worth the price tag? It looks very cool, and it seems to have good playability. I'm very tempted to get one. If anyone has one and wants to advise me on this, I'd appreciate it.

[Shin Densetsu]

So, is it really worth the price tag?
YES. $24.99 and bigger than the Conquest.
It looks very cool, and it seems to have good playability.
It is. Lots of playability and high durability. Not heavy at all, yet still very, very durable.

The only thing missing is a sticker sheet, I wish it came with one, with at least some US roundels and squadron markings, even generic USAF markings such as squadron numbers, et al. If it was painted in grey camo like the real plane, and came with a sticker sheet, that would have definitely made me happier.

[Barefoot Jedi]

I think $25 is a little much for it but not ridiculously so. $20 seems better but, well, the cost of everything has gone up so...

I am very pleased with mine, and am eagerly anticipating decorating it with Rattler stickers.

The wingtips on mine I don't think would stay on during heavy play. They just don't connect that tightly. Works well for a display piece.

I like the black, but I wanted it for a COBRA jet anyway.

[topnotch97]

unless you want to wait for those $5 coupons at McDonald's Monopoly? :D

[Shin Densetsu]

The wingtips on mine I don't think would stay on during heavy play. They just don't connect that tightly. Works well for a display piece.
They were made to be detachable to prevent breakage. Mine stay on fine.
I think $25 is a little much for it but not ridiculously so.
Considering it's size and that it is a brand new mold, I think the price is justified.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I dunno what the deal is but I was looking at this jet again in the store last night. The one I got last week had a yellowish white colored pilot. Several F_22s at this TRU were the same but I saw one that was a darker tree green color! OMG True Heros starting variants!?? LOL that is pretty funny stuff..the figure sucks...

[CornDog_The_Ninja]

It's just my opinion but, I think the F-22, and the F/A-18 when it was available, are better toys than the GI Joe/Cobra jets.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/TomNab2/S6300851.jpg

[SPECTER]

I just thought about it, how cool would it be if these guys made a V-22 Osprey, that could swap from chopper to plane.

[CrimsonGuard101]

It would be to big ;(

[SPECTER]

yeah it would.

[Shin Densetsu]

I just thought about it, how cool would it be if these guys made a V-22 Osprey, that could swap from chopper to plane.
It would be awesome
It would be to big ;(
Yes but not terribly expensive. The F-22 is the same size as the Skystriker and only $24.99.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I am meaning in comparison with the other Aircraft. Someone posted some shots of another Blackhawk Hellicopter and even though the scale is the same (I think it was at least) It was gargantuan compared to the aircraft. It would look silly to me to have something, especailly an Osprey since it would take up half the deck of a Flagg...

[SPECTER]

I am meaning in comparison with the other Aircraft. Someone posted some shots of another Blackhawk Hellicopter and even though the scale is the same (I think it was at least) It was gargantuan compared to the aircraft. It would look silly to me to have something, especailly an Osprey since it would take up half the deck of a Flagg...


That put a picture in my head, it would look funny sitting on a Flagg.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

I am meaning in comparison with the other Aircraft. Someone posted some shots of another Blackhawk Hellicopter and even though the scale is the same (I think it was at least) It was gargantuan compared to the aircraft. It would look silly to me to have something, especailly an Osprey since it would take up half the deck of a Flagg...

That Blackhawk must have been the Blue Box Toys one.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Yeah it would kinda be skwewd for tis scale and size. The F-22 and the F-18 are pretty good in size compared to the Rattler and Conquest. For some reason the helos are over sized in comparison but any smaller and they would not be true to thier real world counter parts. The only Helo that really worked was the Dragonfly and Tomahawk. the other helo the retaliator? I think, it was was just off the wall depressing....

[SPECTER]

Im going to have to buy one of these. I will have to wait for the skystriker till I can blow a few more dollars.

[blackrazor1]

It looks like TRU is starting the restock these again. Saw 5 raptors and 3 blackhawks at the Valdosta, GA TRU today.

[Zoomie2001]

I'm guessing that with the Su-27 that's been released, we're gonna see more and more of these toys. GI joe toys, unfortunately, aren't cheap. There's a lot of brand quality that you pay for with Joe stuff and Hasbro banks on this. Being as these jets are produced cheaply (Same price as the smaller X-30 and Rattler) means that they will probably sell more. I've literally seen these PTE/Motormax toys fly off the shelves in St Louis. There's only one toys r us in the area that has more than one.

I'm hoping for at least an F-35 or a MiG-29. The JSF would be the logical progression. It's the little brother of the F-22, but don't put it past the chinese to push they're own J-series of aircraft. I say bring it on!

[Shin Densetsu]

I'm hoping for at least an F-35 or a MiG-29. The JSF would be the logical progression. It's the little brother of the F-22, but don't put it past the chinese to push they're own J-series of aircraft. I say bring it on!A year or so ago I heard a rumor that PTE was going to have a JSF F-35 and possibly the Commanche.

I hope either Motormax Toys or M & C Toy Centre make a Tomcat. Years back, the wishlists on 1/18 and joe boards contained the A-10, F-22, SU-27, F-14, and HIND. So far we have 3 of those in joe scale....

[Zoomie2001]

A year or so ago I heard a rumor that PTE was going to have a JSF F-35 and possibly the Commanche.

I hope either Motormax Toys or M & C Toy Centre make a Tomcat. Years back, the wishlists on 1/18 and joe boards contained the A-10, F-22, SU-27, F-14, and HIND. So far we have 3 of those in joe scale....

Or Puzzle Animation Studio Ltd... Apparently, they made the Su-27 that I have. It's really bizarre. I guess M&C and Motormax or whoever farms the work out to a third party... but an animation studio?

[Shin Densetsu]

Or Puzzle Animation Studio Ltd... Apparently, they made the Su-27 that I have. It's really bizarre. I guess M&C and Motormax or whoever farms the work out to a third party... but an animation studio?That's weird, never knew that.

Well I hope that animation studio LOVES the Tomcat and HIND.

[Ixz72]

Or Puzzle Animation Studio Ltd... Apparently, they made the Su-27 that I have. It's really bizarre. I guess M&C and Motormax or whoever farms the work out to a third party... but an animation studio?

Where did you get your SU-27?

[Zoomie2001]

Where did you get your SU-27?

London. Off eBay. Lots of postage. LOTS. Almost prohibitively expensive. Good thing I also bought a PTE Hornet.

[Hat Trick]

i've been seriously debating on getting the F-22 and a few of the other True Heroes vehicles,every time i'm in TRU i keep looking at it and looking at it...i'm definately gonna pick one up for my loose figure display..thanks for the kick-@$$ review it helped me finalize my decision..........
btw....where did you get the helmet and mask for ACE?

[Zefram]

Hmmm... looking at the wings I now wonder if I could fake some VTOL engines.

[Shin Densetsu]

thanks for the kick-@$$ review it helped me finalize my decision..........You're welcome man, glad you enjoyed it.
btw....where did you get the helmet and mask for ACE?
It's from the Valor VS Venom version of Ace, it's a tight fit, so it's hard to remove once you put it on.

[annuar]

i wish TRU would bring f-22 raptor to malaysia. sadly only f-18 and blackhawk chopper. wish i can get my hands on them. shipping from overseas's gonna cost a fortune.

good job u guys. i envy u guys.

[samantha]

I hope Hasbro gives us a retooled and more accurate looking version, but I doubt it. We may see the VvsV item painted in Sky Striker colors.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

i wish TRU would bring f-22 raptor to malaysia. sadly only f-18 and blackhawk chopper. wish i can get my hands on them. shipping from overseas's gonna cost a fortune.

good job u guys. i envy u guys.

I know some people here would like that PTE F-18. So you could maybe trade for a F-22?

[Shin Densetsu]

I hope Hasbro gives us a retooled and more accurate looking version, but I doubt it. We may see the VvsV item painted in Sky Striker colors.
I doubt Hasbro will, if they did, it would probably be gimmicked like the movie Night Raven. For a toy at that price and size, the True Heroes F-22 is as good as it gets. My last set of images in this thread showed the Hasbro F-22 compared to the True Heroes F-22, and the True Heroes one is way more appealing to us collectors.

[darthdrew13]

I picked one up to customize in Skystriker colors. Anyone know where I can get the vertical stabilizer stickers (the eagle in the red circle) that are meant to be on black stabilzers? I'm gonna get the Cobra Stickers Skystriker decals, but want to make the stabilizers black with the appropriate decal. Help?

[Hat Trick]

I picked one up to customize in Skystriker colors. Anyone know where I can get the vertical stabilizer stickers (the eagle in the red circle) that are meant to be on black stabilzers? I'm gonna get the Cobra Stickers Skystriker decals, but want to make the stabilizers black with the appropriate decal. Help?

if you find out let me know...i was thinking about doing the same thing...

[TheFallen]

I had this in my hands today but I put it back. I just couldn't pull the trigger on buying it. It is $40 over here which is only $10 more than a HISS

After reading this review I am going back to TRU tomorrow and picking one up. I know I will regret it if I miss out :)

[TheFallen]

It's just my opinion but, I think the F-22, and the F/A-18 when it was available, are better toys than the GI Joe/Cobra jets.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/TomNab2/S6300851.jpg

Where did you get that NFL mat? I want one :)

[NSA]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l270/tkjaer21/Militaria%20Scale/DSCN0479.jpg

Hehe from TK :)

[TheFallen]

I finally picked this up today. And I got it on clearance. $20aud which equates to $15us

It is well worth the $20 I paid

[shadowdude82]

beiing as the wings are removable..how difficult would it be to transport two of theese in the luggage on a transatlantic flight???

[Shin Densetsu]

beiing as the wings are removable..how difficult would it be to transport two of theese in the luggage on a transatlantic flight???Not too bad. Just make sure the canopy does not brush up against something that will crack it.

[gntdrag]

just got his thing, and man its bigger than what i was expecting. the only other plane i have is the firebat, but the f-22 juts puts it to shame haha.

[STARMAN 352]

Guys after reading good things about this F-22 i picked one up today at Toys R Us and will do a custom job on this to make it look more like a USAF Raptor Was lucky i still have a set of 1:32 scale F-15 decals that i can use to complete this job.
Shin you did a great job on the review you posted last year.

[NSA]

just got his thing, and man its bigger than what i was expecting. the only other plane i have is the firebat, but the f-22 juts puts it to shame haha.

Don't get a BBI F-18! :D

[Shin Densetsu]

Shin you did a great job on the review you posted last year.Thanks man!

[Shin Densetsu]

I customized my F-22 as an homage to the Night Boomer, only I call this one a Night Raptor, out of respect to the original Skystriker. I stripped off the True Heroes stickers and used a Night Boomer sticker sheet from cobrastickers.com. You can check out my Night Raptor HERE (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs/46048-custom-modern-era-night-raptor-xp-22f.html#post848705)

[bar]

I customized my F-22 as an homage to the Night Boomer, only I call this one a Night Raptor, out of respect to the original Skystriker. I stripped off the True Heroes stickers and used a Night Boomer sticker sheet from cobrastickers.com. You can check out my Night Raptor HERE (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs/46048-custom-modern-era-night-raptor-xp-22f.html#post848705)

Sweet!
Looking REAL nice!
I just picked up a stack of these things and i have attached and filled the wingtips with apoxie paste from Aves products. I will give it a good few days to properly cure, but when it does, i'll sand it back and get with the painting!
Good work with your version!

[Shin Densetsu]

Good work with your version!Thanks man!

[bar]

Thanks man!

No problemo.
I suppose there are so many places you can go with this one, that you could probably buy ten and still not have enough to homage every cool classic paintscheme!

[Singer high]

Hey All! I found this True Heroes F-22 in my local TRU (Singapore). Pleasantly surprised to see it in grey camo instead of black. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3907487182_00f5ccfc6f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelvin255/3907487182/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2510/3907487362_1619fab424.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelvin255/3907487362/)

[mikevoltz]

Wow that looks alot like the one I had to hand paint

[Autobot_Goldbug]

Wow I hope we get some of those here!

[sharky]

Yes! That is the one I've been waiting for. Looks awesome.

[Shin Densetsu]

Hey All! I found this True Heroes F-22 in my local TRU (Singapore). Pleasantly surprised to see it in grey camo instead of black.OH GOD that looks awesome! That's how it should have been to begin with! Damn, now to plan an EASY custom using cobrasticker's stickers for a Modern Era THUNDERWING for Slipstream using this new repaint!

[Shin Densetsu]

Hey Singer high, I saw the pics on your flickr, is the F-22 gray under natural lighting or bluish gray?

[Singer high]

Hey Singer high, I saw the pics on your flickr, is the F-22 gray under natural lighting or bluish gray?
Hi Shin, I'll say it is very close to air superiority grey as on USAF fighters. I took the photos at night, maybe that's why it looks blueish?

By the way, can the four underwing pylons be removed for full stealth configuration? I couldn't remove mine, and don't wanna risk breaking them.

[tomjefferson101]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have found my ME Skystriker. Can't wait to see this in stores

[bar]

Hi Shin, I'll say it is very close to air superiority grey as on USAF fighters. I took the photos at night, maybe that's why it looks blueish?

By the way, can the four underwing pylons be removed for full stealth configuration? I couldn't remove mine, and don't wanna risk breaking them.

Yes.
They just pop right off(And can go right back on again if you wish.
I popped mine off because you rarely see an F-22 with external payload.
Good find with that one.
I have to say the cockpit looks tinted though, and i don't really like that.
I prefer the previous version with no tint.
I am going to pick up a few extra of the "standard" one today just in case all the new ones are tinted.
I'd love to see more pics!

[topnotch97]

oh damn. thats a gooooddd paint job.

[Singer high]

Yes.
They just pop right off(And can go right back on again if you wish.
I popped mine off because you rarely see an F-22 with external payload.
Good find with that one.
I have to say the cockpit looks tinted though, and i don't really like that.
I prefer the previous version with no tint.
I am going to pick up a few extra of the "standard" one today just in case all the new ones are tinted.
I'd love to see more pics!
Thanks bar! I'll try pulling them out again.

And yes, the canopy is tinted. I didn't realize this difference until you mentioned it and I compare with Shin's photos again.

[samantha]

Hey All! I found this True Heroes F-22 in my local TRU (Singapore). Pleasantly surprised to see it in grey camo instead of black. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/3907487182_00f5ccfc6f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelvin255/3907487182/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2510/3907487362_1619fab424.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelvin255/3907487362/)

Nice job.

[Shin Densetsu]

Hey guys this plane is already in colors close to the Thunderwing from VVV but LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER! This blew the Thunderwing away already mold wise but now that it's in the same color? EXCELLENT!

[sharky]

The people putting out this True Heroes stuff are doing their homework it seems. I am becoming more and more impressed as time goes on.

[bar]

Thanks bar! I'll try pulling them out again.

And yes, the canopy is tinted. I didn't realize this difference until you mentioned it and I compare with Shin's photos again.

Thanks.
I'd love to see pictures of the pilot through the tinted canopy if you have any closeups to see how tinted the new glass is?
I have five of the black one, and i am going to try and stockpile a few more if i can(I don't like the idea of a tinted cockpit!).
Another question:
Is the jet now molded in light grey?(Or does it look to still be black and PAINTED grey?)

[Singer high]

bar: If you look at my head-on shot of the Raptor you can see a hint of red through the canopy. That is Lift Ticket's helmet. Also, here's a close-up of Lift Ticket in the cockpit (canopy raised though).
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3906708219_2516a477f2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelvin255/3906708219/)

I'll say it is molded in grey. Check out the nose gear in above photo, the wheel tire is also grey. Both the main gear tires are also grey. Gonna repaint them in tire black.

You have FIVE of the black ones?? Woah...

[bar]

Thanks for that.
The canopy being nearly black will be an easy fix to swap it out for the clear bubble from the packaging.
So it's not a big problem.
I am glad i have a few black ones in the stash, just in case, though!

[sharky]

I just found this bad boy in my local TRU. I was thinking that since they were spotted in Singapore it would be a while before they made their way here, but I scored one today.

[Shin Densetsu]

BTW guys the tint may be a bit too dark on the new gray repaint, but that's actually more accurate than just plain clear.

[bar]

Yeah. The canopy is a bit of a shame. It won't be hard to fix.
But one cool thing about the oft-criticised wingtips is that, technically, with the wingtips being seperate, it could be a carrier version of the F-22...

[sharky]

I noticed something curious. On Singer's F-22 he got in Singapore the age is 3+, but on the US one it has 5+. I guess the kids in Singapore have more common sense. LOL!

[polyphenus]

I noticed something curious. On Singer's F-22 he got in Singapore the age is 3+, but on the US one it has 5+. I guess the kids in Singapore have more common sense. LOL!

No, that's just the metric equivalent for age... :)

[bar]

I noticed something curious. On Singer's F-22 he got in Singapore the age is 3+, but on the US one it has 5+. I guess the kids in Singapore have more common sense. LOL!

Either that, or they are allowed to handle top secret military hardware earlier...

[sharky]

BTW is anyone else picking this up? I was able to find one surprisingly, but I haven't really seen anyone else chime in if they found one yet.

Edit: I'm refering to the grey camo one.

[dsrader]

Nice review

[bar]

BTW is anyone else picking this up? I was able to find one surprisingly, but I haven't really seen anyone else chime in if they found one yet.

Edit: I'm refering to the grey camo one.

I got the last black ones at my nearest TRU which is about 30 miles away.
BUT... there is a new store opening up in a brand new site about 5 miles away, and i firmly expect them to have the new one there.
They open up on saturday.
I'll report back if they have any.

[ogre_h]

I figure they'll be here in force in time for the Holidays.

[bar]

I figure they'll be here in force in time for the Holidays.

I picture the tv advertisement(In the style of the old Joe ones with kids playing with the toys):

NEW for the holiday season! Just in time to protect us from radical islamic fundamentalists!
The new True heroes F-22!!!!!
With authentic action figure and under wing missiles!!!!
They'll sniff out our enemies anywhere, and return to base without even getting painted by radar!
Coming soon to a toy store near you!
Toy missiles do not fire. Actual toy is not radar-invisible. May contain nuts or nut traces.

[Scoop]

Do you guys think that this new gray camo version would look with good with Skystriker stickers applied to it without any painting involved?

A few months back I saw a custom that another member did using one of the black ones which he painted white and then applied Skystriker stickers to it.

That custom looked great, but I'm not too sure that I want to paint one myself.

[Singer high]

Haha! I didn't notice the 3+ and 5+ difference.

Scoop: any link to that custom with Skystriker stickers? I'm considering it, but not sure if those colourful stickers will suit grey camo. Any toned down or low-viz stickers to suggest?

And a sticker sheet with kill markings will definitely be most welcomed!

[samantha]

I really like this jet.

[Shin Densetsu]

Do you guys think that this new gray camo version would look with good with Skystriker stickers applied to it without any painting involved?I think it would good, since it's an F-22, I think it would look better in gray camo instead of bright white like on the vintage Skystriker.

[steelbrig]

Do you guys think that this new gray camo version would look with good with Skystriker stickers applied to it without any painting involved?


I think it will.

[bar]

Hey guys.
I got the apoxie sanded just fine to cover all the gaps in the wing. Now it's strong enough to be held with just the wingtip.
No paint yet. This one is getting primed grey then sprayed black again. It's going to be a Russian F-22 after the 2012 peace accords when the Martians attacked and the US sold the design to the rest of the worlds nations so the world could unite against a common foe...
I have a set of red star decals ready to go on it...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0113.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0115.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0119.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0121.jpg

[bar]

Okay.
I decided to give the F-22 Stealth cammo a go yesterday.
It took about an hour and a half all in, including weathering.
I masked the canopy and added "stealth" diamond shaped cutouts over all the screw holes, painted the plane primer grey, masked off the cammo and gave it light filter of matt black. After i removed the masking tape, i masked off the engines and the black squares underneath and gave it a solid coat of black.
Then i simply got out the weathering pastels and went at the thing.
I have added decadry film to a few choice panels just to make them look cool.
I have yet to source decals.
Here are the pics.






http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0152.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0153.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0154.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0155.jpg

[bar]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0156.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0157.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0158.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0159.jpg

[bar]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0160.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0161.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0163.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0164.jpg

[bar]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0167.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0168.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0169.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0170.jpg

[bar]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0171.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0173.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0174.jpg



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0175.jpg

[bar]

Oh, and here's what the panels looked like when i appplied the masking tape diamonds to cover the screwholes and mold plugs:



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/IMG00149-20090918-1823.jpg


http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/IMG00150-20090918-1823.jpg

[ogre_h]

Maybe Thunderwing or Phantom X-19 stickers? If they exist? would work on these guys

[bar]

Maybe Thunderwing or Phantom X-19 stickers? If they exist? would work on these guys

Possibly.
I am going to ask a friend of mine if he can print me up some 1/32 F-22 decals.

[Talisman]

Picked up a pair of these beauties today; one I'm hijacking the roundels from the Thunderwing, and the other, I have every intention of making a custom Mobius F-22.

Just need to figure out how to get the decals...

[Crimson Gord]

wow this review just pushed me past the ho humming that i do every time i look at this thing in tru! thanks for the info and pics covering all angles.

[bar]

Picked up a pair of these beauties today; one I'm hijacking the roundels from the Thunderwing, and the other, I have every intention of making a custom Mobius F-22.

Just need to figure out how to get the decals...

Nice.
Is this the repainted version in proper F-22 colours??
They have never gotten them in stock over here in the UK...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/smilies/icon_moe.gif

[GI C]

I made a custom GI Joe plane out of this myself.I am sure you remember this from the custon thread on the Tank.

[bar]

i made a custom gi joe plane out of this myself.i am sure you remember this from the custon thread on the tank.

x-30???

[Talisman]

Nice.
Is this the repainted version in proper F-22 colours??
They have never gotten them in stock over here in the UK...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/smilies/icon_moe.gif

I haven't seen the Razgriz-esque black ones en masse for over a year, actually. All I've seen are the "true-to-life" grey camo.

[wild weasel]

Hey guys.
I got the apoxie sanded just fine to cover all the gaps in the wing. Now it's strong enough to be held with just the wingtip.
No paint yet. This one is getting primed grey then sprayed black again. It's going to be a Russian F-22 after the 2012 peace accords when the Martians attacked and the US sold the design to the rest of the worlds nations so the world could unite against a common foe...
I have a set of red star decals ready to go on it...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0113.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0115.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0119.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/DSCF0121.jpg

i guess we need to build a squadron:http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs/43047-su-22-a.html

[Shin Densetsu]

Picked up a pair of these beauties today; one I'm hijacking the roundels from the Thunderwing, and the other, I have every intention of making a custom Mobius F-22.

Just need to figure out how to get the decals...

Oh cool! I think Moebius 1 and most of the AC pilots are overrated save for Scarface in AC2(because he isn't worshipped like a damn demigod in the games towards the end, and I think Talisman wasn't revered as much in game), but Moebius did have a sweet looking F-22.

wow this review just pushed me past the ho humming that i do every time i look at this thing in tru! thanks for the info and pics covering all angles.

You're welcome! It's no secret that a lot of Joe fans kept wanting Hasbro to make an F-22, but with the True Heroes version out, and at only $25, who would pass that up? It's an excellent mold, and I really hope it is just the 1st of many jets in the line. I'd love to see Motormax Toys make an F-14, because their F-22 is AWESOME, it's basically just a 1/32 scale F-22 toy WITHOUT compromised proportions, but enough room in the cockpit for a 25th Joe. All you need is some stickers from CobraStickers (cobrastickers.com) and you're good to go! Some paint won't hurt either.

I haven't seen the Razgriz-esque black ones en masse for over a year, actually. All I've seen are the "true-to-life" grey camo.

The black ones were harder to find later in the year. I wonder what they will paint it in next?

[Talisman]

Oh cool! I think Moebius 1 and most of the AC pilots are overrated save for Scarface in AC2(because he isn't worshipped like a damn demigod in the games towards the end, and I think Talisman wasn't revered as much in game), but Moebius did have a sweet looking F-22.

I don't think Talisman's status ever went beyond "National Hero", actually. As for Mobius One, canonically speaking, he is the highest-scoring Ace in the history of Strangereal, with only Cipher (aka Demon Lord of the Round Table, Ace Combat Zero) and Scarface One coming close in terms of notoriety.

Regardless, yeah, after I get the jet done I'm going to get to work on putting together Mobius One himself. I already have the ISAF Roundel and the Mobius Squadron markings... just need to figure out how to get them into decal form.

It's an excellent mold, and I really hope it is just the 1st of many jets in the line. I'd love to see Motormax Toys make an F-14, because their F-22 is AWESOME, it's basically just a 1/32 scale F-22 toy WITHOUT compromised proportions, but enough room in the cockpit for a 25th Joe.

Hear hear! If they can put out an F-15 or one of the jets from across the pond, even better!

[Shin Densetsu]

I don't think Talisman's status ever went beyond "National Hero", actually. As for Mobius One, canonically speaking, he is the highest-scoring Ace in the history of Strangereal, with only Cipher (aka Demon Lord of the Round Table, Ace Combat Zero) and Scarface One coming close in terms of notoriety.

Regardless, yeah, after I get the jet done I'm going to get to work on putting together Mobius One himself. I already have the ISAF Roundel and the Mobius Squadron markings... just need to figure out how to get them into decal form.



Hear hear! If they can put out an F-15 or one of the jets from across the pond, even better!

The thing I liked about Scarface was that there wasn't any in-game dialogue describing him as some dogfighting demigod on steroids with wings of fire and a golden gunsight. Mobius was overhyped in AC4, I preferred the obscurity to overrated characters. Blaze seemed decent, until later, and Cipher...oh god..in Mayhem when Captain Obvious comes out of nowhere with "...that kind of a pilot, they call a Demon lord"; ugh.

AC2 also has the best super fighter(IMHO) of AC; the XFA-27. I know the Falken is supposedly top tier but hell the XFA looks bad ass.

I really do hope we see some new Motormax True Heroes planes over at Toy Fair. A MIG-29 Fulcrum variant, F-16, and more can't hurt...

[donmagic]

Keep in mind these go on sale every so often at BOGO 50%

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Keep in mind these go on sale every so often at BOGO 50%

Are these things still available in the US?????

[donmagic]

Yes but in the gray color scheme. My TRU has a few and my TRU express has like 15 lol

[donmagic]

True Heroes F-22 Raptor Jet - Grey - Toys R Us - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3147750)

It's actually BOGO 50% right now

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True Heroes F-22 Raptor Jet - Grey - Toys R Us - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3147750)

It's actually BOGO 50% right now

Aww man...
They have never sold those ones here...

[Autobot_Goldbug]

True Heroes F-22 Raptor Jet - Grey - Toys R Us - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3147750)

It's actually BOGO 50% right now
Not a good deal. I just want one F-22.
Aww man...
They have never sold those ones here...
Unless someone overseas wants one too? I would trade one for a PTE SU-27.

[Ctrl_Z]

This thing looks amazing. Big too. You sure went crazy with that camera there, didn't you. Had fun looking at those photos.

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Not a good deal. I just want one F-22.

Unless someone overseas wants one too? I would trade one for a PTE SU-27.


The primary problem here is that the math will be sketchy at best...
I am on vacation right now and I found a store locally(to where i am right now), that sells the SU-27.
But it's £29.99 in the store.
So at todays exchange rate, we are looking at $48 for that one item(not taking into account the postage, which I normally don't factor into a trade anyway), so for a "buy one get one free" deal on the F-22, the SU-27 is(on paper anyway), worth two of the F-22.
I'd be majorly willing to trade an SU-27 for two of the gray F-22s but I doubt anyone in the US would fancy that deal.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

The primary problem here is that the math will be sketchy at best...
I am on vacation right now and I found a store locally(to where i am right now), that sells the SU-27.
But it's £29.99 in the store.
So at todays exchange rate, we are looking at $48 for that one item(not taking into account the postage, which I normally don't factor into a trade anyway), so for a "buy one get one free" deal on the F-22, the SU-27 is(on paper anyway), worth two of the F-22.
I'd be majorly willing to trade an SU-27 for two of the gray F-22s but I doubt anyone in the US would fancy that deal.
That might be doable as long as you don't add haggis. :D

[OSOK]

saw one today, meh

[Shin Densetsu]

saw one today, meh

You're missing out, it's a great toy. Repro stickers on it make a world of difference(I really should show you guys my latest custom...which I still need to take more pics of). It was a night and day difference. Best modern jet toy for 25th Joes IMHO.

[donmagic]

The primary problem here is that the math will be sketchy at best...
I am on vacation right now and I found a store locally(to where i am right now), that sells the SU-27.
But it's £29.99 in the store.
So at todays exchange rate, we are looking at $48 for that one item(not taking into account the postage, which I normally don't factor into a trade anyway), so for a "buy one get one free" deal on the F-22, the SU-27 is(on paper anyway), worth two of the F-22.
I'd be majorly willing to trade an SU-27 for two of the gray F-22s but I doubt anyone in the US would fancy that deal.

How would that even be remotely fair? The shipping would be killer sending out two f-22's. A fair deal would be F-22 + a little cash for the SU27.

[Darth Awgmon]

How would that even be remotely fair? The shipping would be killer sending out two f-22's. A fair deal would be F-22 + a little cash for the SU27.


I think it is definitely fair. Shipping will suck on one F-22, won't be much difference for two. You can't get that SU-27 in the States. You can get 2 of the F-22s for about $40 and the SU-27 is $48 overseas. Two for one is definitely "remotely" fair.

[donmagic]

I also imagine that the regularly priced F-22 isn't available over there.

[holyfrog]

The canopy has a frame painted around it, accurate to the real F-22. The console in the cockpit has detail, but not all around it. The seat within the cockpit is detailed, as is the surrounding area. It may not seem like it, but there is enough room for a 25th anniversary/modern era figure to fit in, and still close the canopy with enough clearance. The Ace I have in the cockpit is the 25th anniversary comic pack version, with the helmet from the VVV Ace. Even with the helmet one, Ace fits in just fine.

Now I've read comments saying that Ace looks too big for the plane, that the cockpit is too small, et al. Honestly, we have seen worse on the Thunderwing(which you will see later and had a huge cockpit with tiny wings), and on the Rattler(where there were complaints about the cockpit looking huge). It is true that Ace is out of scale, in a larger scale than the plane. Ace is in 3-3/4"-4" scale, which is just about 1/18 scale, while this plane, is 1/32 or very close to it, with enough room for a 1/18 scale pilot to fit in. There are other joe planes that did this, like the Skystriker. I do realize the concerns that were posted, however I would rather have a smaller cockpit that just happens to fit a 1/18 figure, and with accurate proportions for the vehicle overall, rather than a vehicle with a huge cockpit obvious to the naked eye that it can fit a 1/18 figure, but with proportions that suffer(Rattler canopy/cockpit, Thunderwing overall).

Ace's eyes make me laugh. Wild Weasel must have popped an sidewinder up his afterburner.

[Shin Densetsu]

Ace's eyes make me laugh. Wild Weasel must have popped an sidewinder up his afterburner.

Yeah Ace looks CRAZY..like you would not want that guy showing up in a fighter behind you...looks like he would shoot down friend and foe alike!

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How would that even be remotely fair? The shipping would be killer sending out two f-22's. A fair deal would be F-22 + a little cash for the SU27.

I am not saying I would try and gouge anyone like that. And I know the SU-27 *should* be the same price as the F-22, but taking into account the bogof deal, it still costs more for the SU-27 over here.
I'm not trying to justify the tax laws of the EU to anyone. It just as expensive to stay here as it is to buy stuff from here, but that's the way it is.

[Shin Densetsu]

Guys, let's keep this thread about the F-22/review, not about the pricing justifications between an SU-27 and F-22.

[Skipper]

I would take an F-22 over an F-35 any day.The plane itself is a fine toy. Im just biased and like the F-23 better and of coarse, the XP-14F SKYSTRIKER is just the end all be all. Great review Shin, really like the comparison shots. Do you think they will ever sell ACE from the VvV THUNDERWING set seperately, the pilot gear was spot on and the best I have see. For those that give a darn, this version of ACE fits PERFECT in the JSI F-14 Tomcat.

[Shin Densetsu]

I would take an F-22 over an F-35 any day.The plane itself is a fine toy. Im just biased and like the F-23 better and of coarse, the XP-14F SKYSTRIKER is just the end all be all. Great review Shin, really like the comparison shots. Do you think they will ever sell ACE from the VvV THUNDERWING set seperately, the pilot gear was spot on and the best I have see. For those that give a darn, this version of ACE fits PERFECT in the JSI F-14 Tomcat.

That version of Ace was sold at Dollar General for a few dollars a couple of years back. The bad thing is, there was also a version sold without the gear, at Dollar General later on, and at KB Toys.

Hopefully Hasbro uses the gear and packs it with a future version of Ace. The helmets for him and Slipstream from VVV are far better then what we got from the 25th line. I do have another custom F-22 that I have yet to take pics of, but has a simple kit-bash Slipstream with fighter pilot helmet.

[keaton]

I just got this one yesterday but in different color. Will post pic soon.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

Darn it my TRU raised the price again to $29.99! First it was $24.99 then $26.99 ARG! :mad:

[donmagic]

Darn it my TRU raised the price again to $29.99! First it was $24.99 then $26.99 ARG! :mad:

Don't worry they'll have a sale soon.

[Shin Densetsu]

Darn it my TRU raised the price again to $29.99! First it was $24.99 then $26.99 ARG! :mad:

Dude it's still worth it man. The level of detail and size..definitely worth it.

[speedlgt]

has anyone moded this with sky stryker stickers or hobby stickers?
I just got one and dont really want to paint it. just wondering if stickers are enough to make it look cool. BTW i have the grey Camo (starscream) version

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has anyone moded this with sky stryker stickers or hobby stickers?
I just got one and dont really want to paint it. just wondering if stickers are enough to make it look cool. BTW i have the grey Camo (starscream) version


It's worth glueing the wings on and filling the gap so the tips won't fall off.
I posted pics of my black repainted custom a few pages back(http://www.hisstank.com/forum/1051762-post127.html), but it's really worth the look when it's done.

Can i ask anyone reading this if the F-22 is still available in the TRU stores in the US?

[Shin Densetsu]

has anyone moded this with sky stryker stickers or hobby stickers?
I just got one and dont really want to paint it. just wondering if stickers are enough to make it look cool. BTW i have the grey Camo (starscream) version

I made mine into a Neo Night Boomer with cobrastickers.com stickers.

[speedlgt]

It's worth glueing the wings on and filling the gap so the tips won't fall off.
I posted pics of my black repainted custom a few pages back(http://www.hisstank.com/forum/1051762-post127.html), but it's really worth the look when it's done.

Can i ask anyone reading this if the F-22 is still available in the TRU stores in the US?

yes I just got one today! but they are one of the harder True Heroes toys to find from my point of view

[blackrazor1]

It's worth glueing the wings on and filling the gap so the tips won't fall off.
I posted pics of my black repainted custom a few pages back(http://www.hisstank.com/forum/1051762-post127.html), but it's really worth the look when it's done.

Can i ask anyone reading this if the F-22 is still available in the TRU stores in the US?

True Heroes F-22 Raptor Jet - Grey - Toys R Us - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3147750)

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True Heroes F-22 Raptor Jet - Grey - Toys R Us - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3147750)


Thanks.
But they won't ship to me in the UK...
Damn their eyes...

[Keiichi]

Thanks.
But they won't ship to me in the UK...
Damn their eyes...

If you really need one, I'd be happy to middle man one for you. True Heroes toys are actually BOGO 50% off this week, so if you need two, well there you go lol. Just mentioning it because I happened to see these today while visiting the TRU near my office.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

It's worth glueing the wings on and filling the gap so the tips won't fall off.
I posted pics of my black repainted custom a few pages back(http://www.hisstank.com/forum/1051762-post127.html), but it's really worth the look when it's done.

Can i ask anyone reading this if the F-22 is still available in the TRU stores in the US?

My TRU no longer seem to stock them. :( If they do then they sell out quickly.

[Colonel Bludd]

yup. i see it all the time. hell there is a buy one get one 50% sale on them right now

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If you really need one, I'd be happy to middle man one for you. True Heroes toys are actually BOGO 50% off this week, so if you need two, well there you go lol. Just mentioning it because I happened to see these today while visiting the TRU near my office.


Thanks for the generous offer!
Although i would LIKE to get a couple, i really don't NEED them...
I'll have to get over it, lol!

[Keiichi]

Thanks for the generous offer!
Although i would LIKE to get a couple, i really don't NEED them...
I'll have to get over it, lol!

Haha, I hear that! And knowing Murphy's Law of Toy Collecting, I bet that the second you purchase one overseas it would get restocked at your local TRU lol.

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Haha, I hear that! And knowing Murphy's Law of Toy Collecting, I bet that the second you purchase one overseas it would get restocked at your local TRU lol.

Yeah!
I managed to pick up 6 of the black Raptor when it was on sale briefly in the UK. Five of them are still on my "GI Joe Shelf" awaiting projects for them to be cracked open for(See pic below).
The disparity in what's available and the cost is a bit grander here in the UK.
The price for the Avengers Quinjet seems good in the US. Here in the UK it costs over £30. I considered trying to snag one on Amazon, but there was only going to be a saving of £1 after import fees were taken into account.
I suppose the item needs to be imported from China to the US, and THEN reimported from the US to the UK, hence the price hike.
Sigh...



http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g19/All_the_good_usernames_are_taken/Misc%20junk/IMG_5662.jpg

[eddy-arashikage]

Funnily enough I went to toys r us yesterday and they have a few F22 raptors there but they are grey like the ones in the link!

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Funnily enough I went to toys r us yesterday and they have a few F22 raptors there but they are grey like the ones in the link!


What????
One in the UK had the grey raptors?
How much?

[eddy-arashikage]

I think they were about 15-19 quid from memory although mine is crap they had a load of the other stiff too a boat a helicopter

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I think they were about 15-19 quid from memory although mine is crap they had a load of the other stiff too a boat a helicopter

Well i shall be heading to my local to ask them if they can get them in.
Thanks for the info.
If you pass that one again, check the price out again.

[eddy-arashikage]

Ok will do im sure I will be down that way over the next few days.

They must have a database which has that marked up with a price or failing that, you would get a sure answer if you called the poole branch.

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Ok will do im sure I will be down that way over the next few days.

They must have a database which has that marked up with a price or failing that, you would get a sure answer if you called the poole branch.

Lol.
I'll swing around by Poole on my way home from work, haha.
I'm at A, and you're at B (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=uk&saddr=glenrothes&daddr=poole&dirflg=d&geocode=KVeyMzmLNIZIMcdSyqFYgSeO;Kc3OQo21oHNIMadYG WmUotGw&ei=75C8T76fI83B8QOHo70w&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB0Q9w8wAA)...

[eddy-arashikage]

Lol I wouldn't wish that commute on anyone!! lol

I will give you a price for those over the next few days and if you want any let me know

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Lol I wouldn't wish that commute on anyone!! lol

I will give you a price for those over the next few days and if you want any let me know


Sweet!
I'll pop into my local and inquire about them. It will be easier to get a case from them. There will be no shipping that way!

[speedlgt]

I got the F22 and overall its preatty dam cool. once I took the crap stickers off and put some joe ones on its pretty sweet.

The only problem is the canopy cant open w out coming off completly? anyone else have this problem any mod for it?

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I got the F22 and overall its preatty dam cool. once I took the crap stickers off and put some joe ones on its pretty sweet.

The only problem is the canopy cant open w out coming off completly? anyone else have this problem any mod for it?

It falls off?

[89PILOT]

Man,I hope they get the Rescue coloured Blackhawk in sometime soon,I want that choppa bad!!!!lol

Back to subject - My F-22 canopy stays on ok.

[speedlgt]

It falls off?

it is stable when on but when you lift it up it just comes off so it cant be in the open position cause it just detaches

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it is stable when on but when you lift it up it just comes off so it cant be in the open position cause it just detaches

And it is the grey camo version?
I had an issue with my black ones. The canopy when pressed down was meeting an obstruction where the hinge was at the back. I sanded the underside of the "split peg" part where the canopy hinges from. It removed the obstruction and allowed the canopy to sit flush.
If you open and close your canopy repeatedly, and keep an eye on the hinge itself, you might be able to indentify what part is actually causing the canopy to pop off.
Another fix(If you you have access to tools), is to drill the outer hull, straight though the hinge part itself and add a pivot pin. Once in place, you can fill the holes on either side. I'd reckon all in, drilling and filling, you'd be talking an hour of work in total, and perhaps a five minute paintjob to cover the filler.

[Ruin]

I actually like the VvV Thunderwing a bit better. Yeah, it's nowhere near true-to-shape as the True Heroes model, but I like the fact that the Thunderwing tries to emulate the Raptor's internal weapons bay with a clever spring-loaded system.

I also like it's other gimicks a lot more than I thought I would, find that it's two seat configuration has a lot of appeal (however contrary to reality that it is), and think it just has this pretty GI Joe "glow" about it.

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I think for any flaws it has, the TH F-22 FAR outshines the Thunderwing.
The Thunderwing just looks too toylike. Whereas the TH jet is an accurately proportioned F-22 in 1/32 scale.

[Autobot_Goldbug]

I think for any flaws it has, the TH F-22 FAR outshines the Thunderwing.
The Thunderwing just looks too toylike. Whereas the TH jet is an accurately proportioned F-22 in 1/32 scale.

Yeah and the Thunderwing lacks any real wingspan.