G.I. Joe Collectors Club First Reveal For 2012 Convention Figures

[skinny]

I'm going to imagine it will look like this :

http://www.perretsarmysurplus.com/images/000351.jpg

Except, well, on the back.....



I am tempted to bet you some sort of attendee figure that it won't look like that...

[Starfighter]

Well you know what, at LEAST the Club is communicating better and I REALLY appreciate Brian letting us know not to bother over the weekend.

true dat, and they did not wait until business close to tell us today, that is a plus, I can feel free to go out now and not have to "worry" I miss registration.

Excellent points. Agree 100%. Just disappointed, that's all. The plus side is that it's looking to be a near perfect weekend weather-wise, so I'm going to take advantage of it.

Very true, at least.


True on all accounts. I emailed them with the same response I gave in post #2006. I hope that as a member, they will e-mail me back as a courtesy. I do not mean them harm or ill-will as most of us like what the club gives us. Just something to think about as many are waiting every day of the week anticipating to register. It is exhausting. I guess we will start over on Monday.

[RolandofGilead]

So does this mean us non-attendees can expect to register for the Home Front Heroes package by the end of next week, or possibly even the following week?

I just need to know when to have my money ready.

[Dragasses]

True on all accounts. I emailed them with the same response I gave in post #2006. I hope that as a member, they will e-mail me back as a courtesy. I do not mean them harm or ill-will as most of us like what the club gives us. Just something to think about as many are waiting every day of the week anticipating to register. It is exhausting. I guess we will start over on Monday.
they never have for me.

...but, whatevs. they all just toys, right?

but dang, I like toys.

[Black Llama]

This about sums up how I feel :

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/polar-bear-dragging-himself-around.gif

Please interpret that as you will.

[Hellion42]

This about sums up how I feel :

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/polar-bear-dragging-himself-around.gif

Please interpret that as you will.

You have a cold chin? http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/wtf.gif

[evopete]

is the only way to get one of these is to go the con?

[CrimsonGuard101]

is the only way to get one of these is to go the con?

Or buy a homefront package if there are any left by the time the store ever goes online to register...

Or find somone who is goign to get you one if they are not

Or wait for them to appear on ebay after the con...be prepared to empty your wallet...and bank accoutn too...and and 401k's better cash em out today...

[gyrapados]

I will be surprised if they even get registration up next week at the rate things are going. I pretty much expect it to happen the week before the con.

Seems lately they just can't do anything right. Magazines are 3 weeks late (AGAIN), the con registration isn't up, and their site was hacked and all the info stolen, and the FSS service that was supposed to have been in place since last fall still isn't up and running.

[Duffmann]

i like the picture the club posted

International G.I. Joe Collectors' Convention - GIJoeCon 2012! (http://www.gijoecon.com/no2012/RAH12set-preview.cfm)

[kennywr22]

Man I don't care what anyone says, this set is completely fantastic! Can not wait. Getting a box and bag set for sure, and I'll be searching for more igs.

[Duffmann]

Man I don't care what anyone says, this set is completely fantastic! Can not wait. Getting a box and bag set for sure, and I'll be searching for more igs.

agree it does look nice. is it perfect no but still a damn nice set.

[drunknmunky]

My problem is the set still looks like a kitbash of random parts. This is the 3rd modern set from the Club. In 09 their parts were limited so they went with something simple yet effective. Plus the International excusives from that con are beautiful. All are simple repaints yet they look very unique and even stand out when placed with their domestic counterparts. Last year the Mission Brazil set was a home run. The figures were superb (with the exception of Main Frame and Sparta), the exclusives were the best we've ever seen. Seriously the 2 pack, Stinger and Moccasin are all beautiful. Then this year, in my opinion, they dropped the ball. They picked 2 teams that people have wanted since the 25th line, yet seemed to miss on nearly all of them. They have tons of molds and accessories available to them, especially compared to years past. But yet, to me, they all look like parts swapped customs. The IGs look horrible because they're wearing skirts as cold weather gear. Not to mention the bland colors. Then there's Voltar. Colors are perfect. Head sculpt and helmet are amazing. I cam deal with the accelerator suit body. But the Beachhead legs are terrible with that body. It looks too random, nothing fits together. Exactly like Horror Show with his upper knee pads molded to his thigh, then being cut off and at the knees which are covered by knee pads. So he has half a round thigh pad that's cut in half where it meets a triangle shaped knee pad. Sorry but unless the exclusives blow me away I'm completely passing on everything from this years set.

[kennywr22]

I disagree. The igs give me this snow trooper from empire strikes back vibe. Voltar looks incredible in my opinion. Horrorshow is pretty awesome as well( want to see in person). Guess we just see it differently.

[Duffmann]

My problem is the set still looks like a kitbash of random parts. This is the 3rd modern set from the Club. In 09 their parts were limited so they went with something simple yet effective. Plus the International excusives from that con are beautiful. All are simple repaints yet they look very unique and even stand out when placed with their domestic counterparts. Last year the Mission Brazil set was a home run. The figures were superb (with the exception of Main Frame and Sparta), the exclusives were the best we've ever seen. Seriously the 2 pack, Stinger and Moccasin are all beautiful. Then this year, in my opinion, they dropped the ball. They picked 2 teams that people have wanted since the 25th line, yet seemed to miss on nearly all of them. They have tons of molds and accessories available to them, especially compared to years past. But yet, to me, they all look like parts swapped customs. The IGs look horrible because they're wearing skirts as cold weather gear. Not to mention the bland colors. Then there's Voltar. Colors are perfect. Head sculpt and helmet are amazing. I cam deal with the accelerator suit body. But the Beachhead legs are terrible with that body. It looks too random, nothing fits together. Exactly like Horror Show with his upper knee pads molded to his thigh, then being cut off and at the knees which are covered by knee pads. So he has half a round thigh pad that's cut in half where it meets a triangle shaped knee pad. Sorry but unless the exclusives blow me away I'm completely passing on everything from this years set.

you have great points but I think there is more positives than negatives in this set. Also I think the final product will look more different once it is in hand. The Photoshop job the club has provided us in the pictures look terrible and they have already said due to picture quality what we see is not exactly what we will be getting.

[kennywr22]

Yes I'm really looking foward to seeing the gold on the igs, as opposed to the yellow as seen in the pics. If it turns out like voltars gold color than that will just be amazing.

[gyrapados]

The Photoshop job the club has provided us in the pictures look terrible and they have already said due to picture quality what we see is not exactly what we will be getting.

Add "taking crappy pictures" to the list of things the club has found a way to screw up lately.

[drunknmunky]

I disagree. The igs give me this snow trooper from empire strikes back vibe. Voltar looks incredible in my opinion. Horrorshow is pretty awesome as well( want to see in person). Guess we just see it differently.

Well nothing will ever please everyone. No matter what the Club or Hasbro makes people will complain. Today I get to be the complainer :) Seriously though I just feel a little let down. I'm not big on the canceled IG look.. It just seems like the Club jumped on the opportunity to release something that was canceled. We as collectors seem to go crazy anytime something thatwas once canceled gets released, no matter how bad it is. The Club knew this and used it to their advantage. I'm just not into the look of them. As for the OG, I think people are just excited to get them, even if they aren't accurate. I've never been a fan of the OG so that could be why this set doesn't really appeal to me. No worries though, I'll just save the money for the Club Subscription Figures. Well, as long as they're released before next year's con :)

[gyrapados]

I'll just save the money for the Club Subscription Figures. Well, as long as they're released before next year's con :)

I see that you are a dreamer. :)

[Duffmann]

Add "taking crappy pictures" to the list of things the club has found a way to screw up lately.

i agree with this 100% you would think the club would get US the collectors at least better pictures. I mean come on why post something that comes out completely different looking than what it should look like.

[drunknmunky]

i agree with this 100% you would think the club would get US the collectors at least better pictures. I mean come on why post something that comes out completely different looking than what it should look like.

Exactly. When I'm paying you 340 or so dollars for some figures I don't get to see until purchased they had better have great pictures. They're trying to sell is a very expensive product but show terrible pictures. Try that with anything on ebay or in the BST thread and watch what happens.

[kennywr22]

This I agree with as well. They have said several times that the pictures didn't come out right and that is pretty crappy when your selling an expensive product. Maybe they were really rushed with all the crap that has happened this year. Back on the subject of the look of the set. I'm a big og fan, but I truly wouldn't have mind if they were all re imagined in a way, so long as they look like the character. I guess this is why characters like horrorshow look great to me. I can see if your a fan wanting a straight up arah look that you would be a little disappointed. The canceled ig thing I agree with you guys on as just because it's canceled let's release it idea. Fortunately for me, I love this ig look so I'm in heaven.

[gyrapados]

Exactly. When I'm paying you 340 or so dollars for some figures I don't get to see until purchased they had better have great pictures. They're trying to sell is a very expensive product but show terrible pictures. Try that with anything on ebay or in the BST thread and watch what happens.

Crappy pictures do not encourage people to buy the set. Which is common sense, but maybe common sense isn't as common as we once believed.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I'm ready to register tomorrow. Let's get this show on the road already.

[skinny]

everyone should wait an hour minimum before posting that registration is online...muahahahaha

if you are not watching the con site and watching here instead...oh well.

[drunknmunky]

everyone should wait an hour minimum before posting that registration is online...muahahahaha

if you are not watching the con site and watching here instead...oh well.

I will guarantee that this set won't sell out as quickly as people think it will. It absolutely won't sell out the first day.

[skinny]

well here is 112 sets right here:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-general-discussion/233768-poll-you-buying-oktober-guard-vs-i-g-set.html

and that is just the tank and only those who answered the poll (i didnt)

[Gyre-Viper]

I will guarantee that this set won't sell out as quickly as people think it will. It absolutely won't sell out the first day.


I disagree. But we'll see...

[skinny]

and dont forget this thread with 98! there will be duplicates of course.
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-conventions-get-togethers/175356-joecon-2012-who-going-roster.html

[kennywr22]

I predict a sellout for sure. How fast, we will see.

[drunknmunky]

well here is 112 sets right here:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-general-discussion/233768-poll-you-buying-oktober-guard-vs-i-g-set.html

and that is just the tank and only those who answered the poll (i didnt)

Yeah but that's 112 saying they will buy it. Saying and doing are completely different. Even if they all pulled through it won't sell out on the first say.

[skinny]

Yeah but that's 112 saying they will buy it. Saying and doing are completely different. Even if they all pulled through it won't sell out on the first say.

funny I don't think I said in my post it would sell out on the first day, I made an obvious jest (with a muahahaha even) that people should wait an hour to post the news registration was up. (I have a mean streak a mile wide)
but since you brought it up the converse could be said as well, there could be dozens of people not posting in any thread that they are going. Don't forget all those people on facebook saying they want a set. not every collector is on the tank.
I do worry they will sell out but not because I want a set, but because I want to attend the entire convention.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I've held out getting my hotel until I'm verified for an attending package. If by chance I don't get one I'll be forced to save my money and just zip down on Saturday and buy a set from a dealer at mark up I guess.

[skinny]

I've held out getting my hotel until I'm verified for an attending package. If by chance I don't get one I'll be forced to save my money and just zip down on Saturday and buy a set from a dealer at mark up I guess.

You may want to get the reservation, if you decide to cancel it within a certain amount of time beforehand you don't pay any penalty. Unlike the airlines, which I am still waiting to book until I am registered, and are nonrefundable.

[drunknmunky]

funny I don't think I said in my post it would sell out on the first day, I made an obvious jest (with a muahahaha even) that people should wait an hour to post the news registration was up. (I have a mean streak a mile wide)
but since you brought it up the converse could be said as well, there could be dozens of people not posting in any thread that they are going. Don't forget all those people on facebook saying they want a set. not every collector is on the tank.
I do worry they will sell out but not because I want a set, but because I want to attend the entire convention.

My point was that these will not sell out the first day. Even with people wanting the set. I don't remember how long it took last year's set to sell out but I think it took a while. I remember I didn't register until late because my wife's work schedule got changed so I wasn't sure if I'd make it or not.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Monday morning, first of the week bump!

[Starfighter]

I think that having a 15% plus on a website saying that they will purchases a set is a great indication that the set will sell out since there are so few that were produced. Not everyone on this website will even post. Many, may just look at the posts to see the updated information. It may not sell out on the on the first day, but it will most likely be before the June 11th deadline (I heard that that was the deadline). Of those 625 sets, will have of that amount buy the bagged sets? If there are more than 300 people that are buying the attendee boxed set before the non-attendees can purchase their sets, they will not have a chance as the bagged sets would be sold out. There is anticipation because of that and anticipation to purchase one of the 75 Golden Tickets. There are some people (not me), that plan on purchasing a Golden Ticket not only for themselves, but for their spouses as well. Same goes for the Bagged Sets. Those are things to be looked at.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I'll be honest and say I had planned on getting a GT (until some finances had to be redirected), but the whole GT program is bunk. It is encouraging scalping imo, even if only 75 are available. I can understand boardies helping one another out, but there has to be a better way. I'd start by reducing the GT levels to TWO of each item, not three.

[Pete@Cobra-La]

I am not sure why so many online posters think all collectors/fans post. There are TONS of people who never post online or even really visit message boards who collect. We have heard from them and met them over and over again...

The poll is a great indicator though, and we expect this set to sell out very quickly...

[RolandofGilead]

Hopefully not too quickly.

[skinny]

I am not sure why so many online posters think all collectors/fans post. There are TONS of people who never post online or even really visit message boards who collect. We have heard from them and met them over and over again...

The poll is a great indicator though, and we expect this set to sell out very quickly...
dang it Pete, now my fingernails wont survive this week. nom nom nom

[Starfighter]

I'll be honest and say I had planned on getting a GT (until some finances had to be redirected), but the whole GT program is bunk. It is encouraging scalping imo, even if only 75 are available. I can understand boardies helping one another out, but there has to be a better way. I'd start by reducing the GT levels to TWO of each item, not three.

I think that because the GT went up in price this year, it makes it harder for those that purchase it to make a profit off of it. I think that you may be lucky to get your money back because you would have to pay an extra $300 on top of the attendee exclusives prices of around $175 each. That is $825 alone just for the 3 attendee exclusive sets. If you wanted to keep one of them, you better hope that you can at least $650 off of the remaining 2 just so that you can get your money back. The only really good thing about the GT is that it pretty much guarantees you 3 attendee exclusive sets.

[Gyre-Viper]

I am not sure why so many online posters think all collectors/fans post. There are TONS of people who never post online or even really visit message boards who collect. We have heard from them and met them over and over again...

The poll is a great indicator though, and we expect this set to sell out very quickly...

^^^

That. I can count on three hands people who never post or simply don't post here who
will be getting sets. Even multiples. Heck, my friend David from Spain and his friends are coming all the way across the ocean to attend con. I think the set will be a smashing success one way or another.

[Nirvana]

I am not sure why so many online posters think all collectors/fans post. There are TONS of people who never post online or even really visit message boards who collect. We have heard from them and met them over and over again...


You should remember this next time you decide to post up news only through Facebook or Twitter. That was part of the point many were trying to make just a few months ago...

[drunknmunky]

^^^

That. I can count on three hands people who never post or simply don't post here who
will be getting sets. Even multiples. Heck, my friend David from Spain and his friends are coming all the way across the ocean to attend con. I think the set will be a smashing success one way or another.

I agree it will sell out. I'm not sure how quickly though. People are acting as if they will miss out if they're not online the second it goes up. This isn't going to be an HTS F5 type deal. If you want the set it will be there for you as long as you don't wait forever.

[Roshan]

My point was that these will not sell out the first day. Even with people wanting the set. I don't remember how long it took last year's set to sell out but I think it took a while. I remember I didn't register until late because my wife's work schedule got changed so I wasn't sure if I'd make it or not.

The only people who should be refreshing the screen every 5-10 minutes every day for the last week are the people who want the Golden Ticket. That will sell out very fast. The con set will not sell out in the first day. So if you just want to register for con and don't want a golden ticket, do not bother wasting your life by constantly refreshing a page all day and skipping out on work to do so. For those of you trying for the GT, carry on.

The GT is a game of musical chairs. Too many people are going to want one and not enough seats.

[Starfighter]

You should remember this next time you decide to post up news only through Facebook or Twitter. That was part of the point many were trying to make just a few months ago...

It is a point that I made just 2 posts before him too.

I agree it will sell out. I'm not sure how quickly though. People are acting as if they will miss out if they're not online the second it goes up. This isn't going to be an HTS F5 type deal. If you want the set it will be there for you as long as you don't wait forever.

Will the Golden Ticket or the Bagged Sets still be available? Most likely not.

The only people who should be refreshing the screen every 5-10 minutes every day for the last week are the people who want the Golden Ticket. That will sell out very fast. The con set will not sell out in the first day. So if you just want to register for con and don't want a golden ticket, do not bother wasting your life by constantly refreshing a page all day and skipping out on work to do so. For those of you trying for the GT, carry on.

The GT is a game of musical chairs. Too many people are going to want one and not enough seats.

Also, the earlier you register, the further up in line you get to advance. So it is important to keep refreshing even if you do not want the GT. The further up in line, the better chances you have at getting the Convention Attendee Exclusives. That is one of the main draws to go to Joe Con or any con. Unless it is the Annual Broke Con here on the 'Tank.

[drunknmunky]

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Also, the earlier you register, the further up in line you get to advance. So it is important to keep refreshing even if you do not want the GT. The further up in line, the better chances you have at getting the Convention Attendee Exclusives. That is one of the main draws to go to Joe Con or any con. Unless it is the Annual Broke Con here on the 'Tank.

Not true. Last year I didn't sign up until late. My scheduled pick up time was 730 or so. The earlier pickup time was 6 or so. So I had to wait an extra hour and a half right? Wrong. I got in line at 6 with everyone else, got my box set, got in line for the exclusives and got them and was in my hotel room by 7. The times are just to make things easier for them. However they don't actually enforce them. It's no secret as a few Tankers told me to do this in order to not miss out on the exclusives.

[Roshan]

Also, the earlier you register, the further up in line you get to advance. So it is important to keep refreshing even if you do not want the GT. The further up in line, the better chances you have at getting the Convention Attendee Exclusives. That is one of the main draws to go to Joe Con or any con. Unless it is the Annual Broke Con here on the 'Tank.

Did I miss this somewhere? That's never been the case in the past. Was it on a Facebook post?


Also, if you're there the first night, it doesn't matter what place you are in line, you'll get your exclusives. They make certain there is enough to go around. So again, if you're not getting the GT, no need to freak.

[davilinarenas]

As Gyre says, we´ll go from Spain and we´re always checking the registration. We can´t wait! It would be devastating for us going to the Con from so far and not getting this amazing set.

I can´t read everyday the Hisstank forums but it seems it will be a success. Just think: 7 all-new characters in modern era style and decent army building troops. And all of this without knowing the other souvenirs.

Sell-out before the weekend!

[kneroh]

The only people who should be refreshing the screen every 5-10 minutes every day for the last week are the people who want the Golden Ticket. That will sell out very fast. The con set will not sell out in the first day. So if you just want to register for con and don't want a golden ticket, do not bother wasting your life by constantly refreshing a page all day and skipping out on work to do so. For those of you trying for the GT, carry on.

The GT is a game of musical chairs. Too many people are going to want one and not enough seats.

I know for me it's about the pin. Not sure why... I just really love 'em and it's one place that the club always delivers a great little perk.

[Pete@Cobra-La]

You should remember this next time you decide to post up news only through Facebook or Twitter. That was part of the point many were trying to make just a few months ago...

Once we had the go ahead to officially comment on things we did contact customers by email... Apples and Oranges.

[plauzon]

If I remember well when I went to Rhode Island a couple years ago I bought 1 set and I was allowed 2 (packs) & 2 (3packs) ... is it still the same ...

[Roshan]

If I remember well when I went to Rhode Island a couple years ago I bought 1 set and I was allowed 2 (packs) & 2 (3packs) ... is it still the same ...

Last year it was one. Three if you were golden ticket. Which I think is unfair to everyone else and I was a golden ticket holder. Hopefully everyone can get at least 2 of each this year.

[RolandofGilead]

I want the non attendee box and bagged set. That's $555 to start with. I have to pay tax and shipping on top of that this time right?

[Duffmann]

I want the non attendee box and bagged set. That's $555 to start with. I have to pay tax and shipping on top of that this time right?

shipping yes taxes no

[maradona]

I want the non attendee box and bagged set. That's $555 to start with. I have to pay tax and shipping on top of that this time right?

Unless we are in the Club's state, we should not have to pay sales tax.

[plauzon]

With a GT you were 3 for each box set or 3 total ?

[Roshan]

With a GT you were 3 for each box set or 3 total ?

3 for each registrant with a GT. If you bought multiple sets under one name no.

[plauzon]

Thanks Roshan :)

[skinny]

too many abbreviations! I want my OG but no GT so I can pick it up in NOLA but I need an ETA on the PDF for the registration 2 do so. I am just glad there are no SS SE or CC figures in the set
oh and I heard it all on WOJM

[Starfighter]

I did not go to last year's con. The cons that I had went to, I used the times that they gave me to register. I did not even think about just jumping in line at 6 regardless. As far as last year, there was the feeling that many did not get the Convention Attendee exclusives as the Golden Ticket took up a large chunk of the allotment of last year's exclusives on most of the pieces.

[Roshan]

As far as last year, there was the feeling that many did not get the Convention Attendee exclusives as the Golden Ticket took up a large chunk of the allotment of last year's attendee exclusives alone on some of the pieces.

They pushed the limits to 3:1 so that everyone that night could get a set who wanted one. There were only 50 possible GT members last year with a max set loss of 150. The throngs of people behind took up 1 each. Had it been two each for everyone, there would have been even less available the following morning for those who didn't show up the first night. Last year's con had the longest line for the first night that I've ever seen. If you showed up Friday afternoon and were pissed you didn't get your exclusives, it wasn't just due to GT, it was due to it being a really popular set that a lot of people showed up for the night before to get.

[Starfighter]

They pushed the limits to 3:1 so that everyone that night could get a set who wanted one. There were only 50 possible GT members last year with a max set loss of 150. The throngs of people behind took up 1 each. Had it been two each for everyone, there would have been even less available the following morning for those who didn't show up the first night. Last year's con had the longest line for the first night that I've ever seen. If you showed up Friday afternoon and were pissed you didn't get your exclusives, it wasn't just due to GT, it was due to it being a really popular set that a lot of people showed up for the night before to get.

Thanks.

Hypothetically, if all of the boxed sets sell out to convention attendees this year and they all showed up on Thursday night, you could in fact have many that did not get the exclusives using the same limited Edition (LE) numbers as last year. Let's just look at the more popular exclusives with a run of LE 500. Let's just say that there are 600 people in line. It is a movie year after all. The GTers will get 150. That leaves 350 sets left for 525 people. In this scenario, you could have 175 people that will lose out.

Also, I understand that it is unlikely and the best case scenerio for the Club as they sell out in Mattycollector times. However, it would be very upsetting to many of the people who attended wanting to purchase the exclusives. The attendee exclusives are one of the main draws to a convention. It could be argued that it is the main reason why people choose to go to them unfortunately as their are a lot of cool things to do with fellow people in the same hobby as you.

Here is last year's breakdown.

LE 550 Convention Boxed Sets (Mission Brazil II)
$305

LE 325 Convention Boxed Sets (Mission Brazil II)
$185 w/ purchase of Boxed set above

LE 650 2-pack Python Patrol Specialist (Gatilho/Trigger & Relámpago/Lightning)
$45

LE 500 Python Patrol Parachute Tele-Viper Officer
$20

LE 500 Python Patrol Stinger w/ Python Patrol Motor/Nitro-Viper
$60

LE 500 Silver Edition Cobra Commander
$22

LE 400 Water Moccasin
$35

LE 600 Dial-Tone
$25

[07GT500 COBRA]

Roshan,
So there were people last year that got the attendee package but didn't get their box set or was it the individual con exclusives they missed out on?

[Roshan]

Roshan,
So there were people last year that got the attendee package but didn't get their box set or was it the individual con exclusives they missed out on?

I know turner showed up the day after (or maybe it was Saturday) and didn't get any attendee exclusives. Everyone who ordered a box set and showed up at the show no matter how late into the con, got both their con set and their attendee freebie. However, there were some people who showed up who ordered a con set and not a loose set and tried to add on a loose set at the show as they've done in the past and were unable too because they had sold out.

So for those of you wishing to get a loose set, don't take the risk of waiting to add it on later. If you order a boxed set, you may add on a loose set, but that does not guarantee there will be any left for you.

[07GT500 COBRA]

^Thanks.

So, when I register I can expect to be given a date/time to show up to pick up my exclusives and purchase additional stuff if I want? The earliest I assume is Thursday am unless I get a GT (99% sure I'm not) which pickup can be Wednesday night?

[Roshan]

Thanks.

Hypothetically, if all of the boxed sets sell out to convention attendees this year and they all showed up on Thursday night, you could in fact have many that did not get the exclusives using the same limited Edition (LE) numbers.

When I said 50 possible, 25 of those GT's were 12" GT holders, and of those, I think there were still 10 left over. So in reality, there were about 40 GT holders. Many of those GT holders didn't buy full amounts either.
But this year is a different story. Many people are getting the GT strictly to make there money back. This year, there's the possibility of 100 GT holders, not 50. Your scenario of people running out on opening night has more plausibility under last years numbers. I would hope that they have upped the numbers from last year. Because with 100 GT's at 3 each, you've wiped out a lot of people's chances of a big vehicle. GT holders will run the math on bigger money items like the water moccasin last year. If they see only 400 made, and they can wipe out 300 of them, they'll buy them because the profit on it will be double or triple what they pay. But if there's 600 of them, you might only get two instead of three, because there's a risk of breaking even.

The big vehicle (if any) has the biggest chance of selling out too early if the numbers aren't upped. But it's an even greater risk to the club to up numbers on an already expensive vehicle if it doesn't sell out. Yes everything sold out last year, but two years ago, no vehicle sold out. They're probably still sitting on those bunkers and cars.

That being said, Brian's not going to allow for an opening night where everyone who pre-registered and showed up will not get one of everything for the attendees. It's just never happened. Last year he even mentioned to the GT line he had run the math before everyone showed up to make sure everyone got one of everything.

[Starfighter]

^Thanks.

So, when I register I can expect to be given a date/time to show up to pick up my exclusives and purchase additional stuff if I want? The earliest I assume is Thursday am unless I get a GT (99% sure I'm not) which pickup can be Wednesday night?

The GTers will be able to pick their allotment of 3 of each of the Attendee Exclusives 1 hour before everyone else. If they are late, they will be rushed in front of the line before everyone else that is not a GTer. If you want the exclusives, do not wait until Friday as they re-open the store to everyone and most likely they will be sold out by then. For those that are taking tours on Wednesday, you can pick up only your Boxed and Bagged set if you purchased one around 6 pm that night. However, from my understanding, that store will not be open to purchase the attendee exclusives. You do get your Attendee Freebie Figure (the Q&A stated that it will be a figure, it could be a typo on their part) with the Set this year though whenever you pick up the Boxed set.

[Roshan]

^Thanks.

So, when I register I can expect to be given a date/time to show up to pick up my exclusives and purchase additional stuff if I want? The earliest I assume is Thursday am unless I get a GT (99% sure I'm not) which pickup can be Wednesday night?


Even if you get a GT, attendee only stuff is sold on Thursday, you can only pick up your con set, packet and freebie on Wednesday.

I don't know if it will tell you when to pick up at registration or if by e-mail later. Last year was the first online reg, and I picked GT so I didn't get any other info.

[Roshan]

If you want the exclusives, do not wait until Friday as they re-open the store to everyone and most likely they will be sold out by then.

Even if you show up early on Friday morning, the GT holders can get back in line first Friday morning and rehit the store for 3 more of each. With so many more people this year getting GT for resell purposes, expect that to happen.

[Starfighter]

That being said, Brian's not going to allow for an opening night where everyone who pre-registered and showed up will not get one of everything for the attendees. It's just never happened. Last year he even mentioned to the GT line he had run the math before everyone showed up to make sure everyone got one of everything.

That would be upsetting if you were to buy the GT and only get one more of each exclusive than the non GTers. It seems that it would be too expensive to buy it then for your money. At least it would reserve you a spot to guarantee you 1 or 2 sets of them if nothing else.


Even if you show up early on Friday morning, the GT holders can get back in line first Friday morning and rehit the store for 3 more of each. With so many more people this year getting GT for resell purposes, expect that to happen.

That is a major benefit for the GT right there. A GT could potentially purchase 6 sets of the Attendee Exclusives and easily make their money back.

[Roshan]

That would be upsetting if you were to buy the GT and only get one more of each exclusive than the non GTers. It seems that it would be too expensive to buy it then for your money. At least it would reserve you a spot to guarantee you 1 or 2 sets of them if nothing else.


I bought my GT last year without even realizing there was the benefit of buying more exclusives. Double what everyone else gets I think would still be fair.

But as for the people buying GT to resell. I've looked at the numbers (going off of year's past, and assuming things are similar as far as figures and after market prices).

Assume you'll spend about $200 after tax for each set of attendee figures.

Now assuming that you're going to keep one set each for yourself (which I'm sure there will be dealers in the area who will not do this), you're left with a maximum guarantee of 2 full sets to resell if things sell out the first night.

With the $300 GT tack on, you've thrown out a set and a half of exclusives worth of money. On an a good year, you can maybe make double to triple your money back, after taxes, ebay and/or paypal fees, etc. But that's if it's a good year. No one knew that last year there was going to be a Python Sting waiting to be bought until we showed up at the door, just like the year before that, no one knew there was going to be an Endor Bunker. So it's not like you're guranteeing yourself a good return just because you have a great preview of the set.

So for safety's sake, lets say double your money after fees and all that. If you only get three sets, and two of them are for sale, that's a profit of $400, but you've already spent $300 for the GT. So you're really only walking away with $100.

Yes there is plenty of other things to sell if you want, like the pins, the freebie, the comic, the loose set, boxed set, etc. But you get those without the GT.

So yes, you might make back a couple hundred bucks with the GT if it's a really good year. A couple hundred is nothing to sniff at, it helps a day or two of hotel, or your gas. But I'm just making sure you guys realize, it could be a loss too. If you're getting the GT just to resell items, you might come away disappointed. If you're getting it to resell and enjoy the rest of the show, then it's for you. If you're getting it to army build and enjoy the rest of the show, then it's the place to be.

[Xenos]

So yes, you might make back a couple hundred bucks with the GT if it's a really good year. A couple hundred is nothing to sniff at, it helps a day or two of hotel, or your gas. But I'm just making sure you guys realize, it could be a loss too. If you're getting the GT just to resell items, you might come away disappointed. If you're getting it to resell and enjoy the rest of the show, then it's for you. If you're getting it to army build and enjoy the rest of the show, then it's the place to be.

Yeah, it seems pretty risky to me to buy the GT just for scalping. You'll end up having a couple grand on the line, and if the exclusives don't end up being hot sellers you could get stuck holding the bag.

It seems to me, the best use of a GT is when you have friends that couldn't make it to con, but would like a set of the exclusives.

[drunknmunky]

I still remember being in line last year on Friday morning. My buddy wasn't able to arrive until that evening so he asked me to pick up a Moccasin for him. No problem, I was in line anyways for a Dial Tone (which had already sold out I learned later). Anyways a guy was in front of me in the cash lane. He bought a Moccasin and the cashier woman made a comment to her coworker that it was the last one. Well when I got there (as I was next in line) the woman in the credit line says ” oh that's the last one? I want it then!”. No big deal, nobody deserves anything more than anyone else does. But then a few minutes later she had it on her table with a 200 dollar price sticker and a sign saying ” sold out!”. This to me was one of the reasons the con experience is a let down for some. There should be a limit of 1 per person until Saturday morning. This would help to ensure that those who wanted one got one and don't have to pay ridiculous scalper prices just to get the items that they are there for. Damn near everything sold out on Friday, which is fine. But when there's people mad that they didn't get the exclusives but Bob's Toys has 10 of everything at his booth for triple the price that, to is an issue they really need to resolve.

[Roshan]

But when there's people mad that they didn't get the exclusives but Bob's Toys has 10 of everything at his booth for triple the price that, to is an issue they really need to resolve.

You're never going to resolve that. Even if you put a limit of 1 each. Bob will still have pieces at his booth for triple the price. They just put up a sign paying double, buy them up and then sell for triple. Line limits can't stop that.

[07GT500 COBRA]

From reading this, it may be simpler and best for me to just get an attendee package for my girlfriend in addition to myself. That would get me 2 boxed sets, 2 potential bagged sets, 2 attendee freebie figures and the potential to buy 2 of each of the con exclusives without the GT risk, right?

[Duffmann]

From reading this, it may be simpler and best for me to just get an attendee package for my girlfriend in addition to myself. That would get me 2 boxed sets, 2 potential bagged sets, 2 attendee freebie figures and the potential to buy 2 of each of the con exclusives without the GT risk, right?

Correct, that is what I plan to do with my wife. That is whenever registration opens up I plan to do that.

[Lody]

I still remember being in line last year on Friday morning. My buddy wasn't able to arrive until that evening so he asked me to pick up a Moccasin for him. No problem, I was in line anyways for a Dial Tone (which had already sold out I learned later). Anyways a guy was in front of me in the cash lane. He bought a Moccasin and the cashier woman made a comment to her coworker that it was the last one. Well when I got there (as I was next in line) the woman in the credit line says ” oh that's the last one? I want it then!”. No big deal, nobody deserves anything more than anyone else does. But then a few minutes later she had it on her table with a 200 dollar price sticker and a sign saying ” sold out!”. This to me was one of the reasons the con experience is a let down for some. There should be a limit of 1 per person until Saturday morning. This would help to ensure that those who wanted one got one and don't have to pay ridiculous scalper prices just to get the items that they are there for. Damn near everything sold out on Friday, which is fine. But when there's people mad that they didn't get the exclusives but Bob's Toys has 10 of everything at his booth for triple the price that, to is an issue they really need to resolve.

That's effed up

[07GT500 COBRA]

Correct, that is what I plan to do with my wife. That is whenever registration opens up I plan to do that.

Well, count me out of the race for a GT then.

[drunknmunky]

You're never going to resolve that. Even if you put a limit of 1 each. Bob will still have pieces at his booth for triple the price. They just put up a sign paying double, buy them up and then sell for triple. Line limits can't stop that.

There's no problem with that. My problem is the people that go and don't get what they were there for simply because someone bought 10 of everything with the sole purpose of reselling it. Let everyone ho through and get one of everything. After everyone gets what they want, then let people get more, but limit it to one of each each time you go through.
Last year was my first convention. All I really wanted was the exclusives. Luckily I got them and didn't have to pay inflated prices at the convention just to get convention items. I really felt bad for those who went but missed out last year.

[skinny]

There's no problem with that. My problem is the people that go and don't get what they were there for simply because someone bought 10 of everything with the sole purpose of reselling it. Let everyone ho through and get one of everything. After everyone gets what they want, then let people get more, but limit it to one of each each time you go through.
Last year was my first convention. All I really wanted was the exclusives. Luckily I got them and didn't have to pay inflated prices at the convention just to get convention items. I really felt bad for those who went but missed out last year.

For once we agree on something, treat this like the buffet line, dont take 3 helpings at once, eat your first plate then get back in line and go back for seconds or if anything is left, thirds.

[RolandofGilead]

I still remember being in line last year on Friday morning. My buddy wasn't able to arrive until that evening so he asked me to pick up a Moccasin for him. No problem, I was in line anyways for a Dial Tone (which had already sold out I learned later). Anyways a guy was in front of me in the cash lane. He bought a Moccasin and the cashier woman made a comment to her coworker that it was the last one. Well when I got there (as I was next in line) the woman in the credit line says ” oh that's the last one? I want it then!”. No big deal, nobody deserves anything more than anyone else does. But then a few minutes later she had it on her table with a 200 dollar price sticker and a sign saying ” sold out!”. This to me was one of the reasons the con experience is a let down for some. There should be a limit of 1 per person until Saturday morning. This would help to ensure that those who wanted one got one and don't have to pay ridiculous scalper prices just to get the items that they are there for. Damn near everything sold out on Friday, which is fine. But when there's people mad that they didn't get the exclusives but Bob's Toys has 10 of everything at his booth for triple the price that, to is an issue they really need to resolve.

If it is truly the clubs intention to get one set for everybody, then that would be a great solution.


You're never going to resolve that. Even if you put a limit of 1 each. Bob will still have pieces at his booth for triple the price. They just put up a sign paying double, buy them up and then sell for triple. Line limits can't stop that.

Yes you can't stop somebody from buying a set and then turning around and selling it to a dealer, however, at least in that scenario everybody gets one. If someone then wants to turn around and sell it that's fine they still got one. It keeps a dealer from buying them all in advance and then selling them for outrageous profit. They too can only buy one and then have to rely on others who are looking to make a profit to get more still everyone gets one

[Xenos]

They put up a photoshopped picture of the whole boxset in one spot:
International G.I. Joe Collectors' Convention - GIJoeCon 2012! (http://www.gijoecon.com/no2012/RAH12set-preview.cfm)

I really like the look of the Oktober Guard when they are all together like that. It makes the problems stand out less.

They also put up a picture showing everything the 12" set comes with. It's kind of cool, but in comparison to some of their other offerings lately, I think it's a little bit on the weak side.

[Roshan]

Yes you can't stop somebody from buying a set and then turning around and selling it to a dealer, however, at least in that scenario everybody gets one.

No it doesn't. Go back to the Atlanta con which was the last con that really had a significant resale value in attendee sets. It was a revolving conga line all day on Friday. You were limited to two each, but you could keep getting back in line. If you wanted to keep some people on Saturday, you'd not only have to limit it to one, but additionally have individual hole punchers or stamps for each attendee set that you would tack onto every attendee badge until it got opened up to everyone on Sunday.

But the club isn't ever going to do that. "Let's purposely keep multiples away from the people who showed up at the start of the show on the chance that some people might show up on Saturday to buy them."

They're not gonna do that. Those who are upset about this just have to accept the fact that if you don't show up on Thursday or Friday, you're probably not going to get certain exclusives. It's always been this way. It's like this at pretty much every show. Other than last year Canada Con sold out if you weren't in line the moment the doors opened. If you don't wait outside of the SDCC doors before they open you might be out of luck there too for certain exclusives. It's a con, this is what happen at cons. If it means that much to you to get the attendee only stuff, then schedule the time to do it correctly, or pay the extra to get them in after market. Those are your two options.

[drunknmunky]

If it is truly the clubs intention to get one set for everybody, then that would be a great solution.




Yes you can't stop somebody from buying a set and then turning around and selling it to a dealer, however, at least in that scenario everybody gets one. If someone then wants to turn around and sell it that's fine they still got one. It keeps a dealer from buying them all in advance and then selling them for outrageous profit. They too can only buy one and then have to rely on others who are looking to make a profit to get more still everyone gets one

Everybody should get the opportunity to buy one. Everybody gets one-
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[ChaplainAsst]

They're not gonna do that. Those who are upset about this just have to accept the fact that if you don't show up on Thursday or Friday, you're probably not going to get certain exclusives. It's always been this way. It's like this at pretty much every show. Other than last year Canada Con sold out if you weren't in line the moment the doors opened. If you don't wait outside of the SDCC doors before they open you might be out of luck there too for certain exclusives. It's a con, this is what happen at cons. If it means that much to you to get the attendee only stuff, then schedule the time to do it correctly, or pay the extra to get them in after market. Those are your two options.

Here is the issue: this is supposed to be a CLUB event - more than just another convention. A Club isn't supposed to be a business, but rather a community who has like interests. The problem is that the GIJCC has been run like a business lately and is looking out for its own interests first. A business wants to sell through all the items as quickly as possible so as to maximize profits; a club wants to look out for the interests of the members.

Since the Golden Ticket, JoeCon has been a business first and foremost. Give them more money and we will let you buy with the certainly that you are going to stick it to your customers. Sure, there are a few folks with Golden tickets looking out for other, but mostly the cost is passed on to those who buy their wares on ebay or in their stores.

So, the problem is that the Club is looking out for its own interests, even after asking people to pay dues for a membership that seems to be less about joining a community and more about the price you pay for a single figure once a year.

[Davestro]

I completely agree. I'm gonna get the Con attendee set and am worried all the Golden Ticket folk are gonna hog up the attendee exclusive figures and vehicles and I'm gonna miss out when I show up Thursday evening. They should limit every item to one per attendee and 3x the amount for the Golden retrievers so that everyone there can get at least one (I only buy one of everything in my Joe collection).

Open it up on Friday to purchase another set, then Saturday for any left. That guarantees everyone stays at least three days for the Con.

[Roshan]

Since the Golden Ticket, JoeCon has been a business first and foremost.

Wrong, JoeCon has always been a business first and foremost. GT is just a new facet to that business. Thinking that they just all of a sudden sold out is being naive to their past history. I could send a shout out to some people on here who would spend all day telling you stories of the past of how the con has somehow screwed the collector base over for what they feel was a quick buck.

They're a business, but a business that caters to hobbyists. Nothing wrong with trying to make a profit and try and make hobbyists happy. But if you don't turn a profit, you can't make any hobbyists happy in the long run, so you can't make every club member happy. They put on a con and tell you when to show up to buy the stuff they're selling at con.

[skinny]

They should limit every item to one per attendee and 3x the amount for the Golden retrievers so that everyone there can get at least one (I only buy one of everything in my Joe collection).
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golden retrievers? gotta love that.
and what are you worried about? you will be armed pretty heavily from my understanding. As will I. ;)

i guess depending on how events unfold this year, and just what the attendee exclusives are, the best way to give feedback is of course the survey at the end of con.

[Duffmann]

Wrong, JoeCon has always been a business first and foremost. GT is just a new facet to that business. Thinking that they just all of a sudden sold out is being naive to their past history. I could send a shout out to some people on here who would spend all day telling you stories of the past of how the con has somehow screwed the collector base over for what they feel was a quick buck.

They're a business, but a business that caters to hobbyists. Nothing wrong with trying to make a profit and try and make hobbyists happy. But if you don't turn a profit, you can't make any hobbyists happy in the long run, so you can't make every club member happy. They put on a con and tell you when to show up to buy the stuff they're selling at con.

that is if registration ever opens. 37 days tell con and still no registration i have no idea what the problems are but I think it is time for plan B and just have customers fax in our orders. I mean lets at least get the ball rolling becuase whatever issue they are having seems to be a big one with all the time it is taking.

[kneroh]

I completely agree. I'm gonna get the Con attendee set and am worried all the Golden Ticket folk are gonna hog up the attendee exclusive figures and vehicles and I'm gonna miss out when I show up Thursday evening. They should limit every item to one per attendee and 3x the amount for the Golden retrievers so that everyone there can get at least one (I only buy one of everything in my Joe collection).

Open it up on Friday to purchase another set, then Saturday for any left. That guarantees everyone stays at least three days for the Con.

If I'm understanding your post correctly that's exactly what the club did last year. I haven't heard anything about it being different this year.

[drunknmunky]

It's funny how the Club operates like a business- all they care about is money. That's fine. However when things go wrong they're so quick to say ” we're working on it. We're just a Club made up of collectors just like you.” They're only a Club when they want to be but they're 110% business all the time.

[kneroh]

It's funny how the Club operates like a business- all they care about is money. That's fine. However when things go wrong they're so quick to say ” we're working on it. We're just a Club made up of collectors just like you.” They're only a Club when they want to be but they're 110% business all the time.

What has my head throbbing this morning is if the club expects these to sell out quickly (as Pete stated earlier) then why did they choose not to make more sets? Like you said, and as we all know, they're a business. Why would they not want to sell more of something they know they will run out of?

I understand the word exclusive and how it ties in here, but in all honesty, that word lost all meaning as soon as they decided to pre-sell box sets to non-attendees before the show however many years ago. They made a choice to make them less exclusive and make more money. The next logical step... sell more.

[Roshan]

It's funny how the Club operates like a business- all they care about is money. That's fine. However when things go wrong they're so quick to say ” we're working on it. We're just a Club made up of collectors just like you.” They're only a Club when they want to be but they're 110% business all the time.

How does being a business mean all you care about is money? You have to worry about the money first, but as long as you pay everyone and pay the bills, then you get to take all that extra and do cool things with that business. Being a business first and foremost is just common sense if you want to keep being a business, club or no club.

Just because they have Golden Tickets doesn't mean they're pocketing $300 for themselves every show. That extra cash could have been used to help fund the subscription service, or give better accessories or more head sculpts or a bigger mold for a vehicle. They're never going to tell us one way or another, but I wouldn't be surprised that each year a GT is successful, it just helps to make the con sets and extras that much cooler the next year.

[drunknmunky]

What has my head throbbing this morning is if the club expects these to sell out quickly (as Pete stated earlier) then why did they choose not to make more sets? Like you said, and as we all know, they're a business. Why would they not want to sell more of something they know they will run out of?

I understand the word exclusive and how it ties in here, but in all honesty, that word lost all meaning as soon as they decided to pre-sell box sets to non-attendees before the show however many years ago. They made a choice to make them less exclusive and make more money. The next logical step... sell more.

They don't want product sitting for years like it has in the past. Last year was the first time everything sold out at the con. So they want to make more but not too much. They're searching for that sweet spot of selling to everyone who wants one to maximize profit but not having tons left over for years to come.
I guess what I mean is they want supply to be as close to demand as possible without going over.

[Black Llama]

Laws of supply and demand take over at that point. Conspiracy theory time, but I would almost be willing to bet a testicle that someone, somewhere who works for the club keeps a few of each (box, bagged, exclusives) behind to scalp the hell out of on Ebay. If I ran the club, I would.

Oops, we're all sold out of this highly sought after collectible... oh look, they're going for 800$ each on Ebay, time to list one that we have saved :D

There is an inverse relationship between the want for these sets and the exclusivity. The toys, while good, are not ZOMGIMUSTOWNTHESE level. However, once you add the words 'limited' and the word is out that they are in short supply you create an immediate increase in the value. If the opposite is true (look at the SDCC McCullen Destro sets) they don't sell as well.

[Roshan]

I guess what I mean is they want supply to be as close to demand as possible without going over.

Which is a very tricky thing to do.

All attendee sets also sold out at the Atlanta Con.




Oops, we're all sold out of this highly sought after collectible... oh look, they're going for 800$ each on Ebay, time to list one that we have saved :D


I don't know about the ebay side of that theory, but they always hold items back even after a sellout that they use as prizes in the future at casino night, bingo, etc. As well as holding pieces back as replacement items in case of defects, missing accessories.

[Starfighter]

Everybody should get the opportunity to buy one. Everybody gets one-
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Love it. Nice Youtube video. Tell him Peter, everyone gets one.

[kneroh]

Laws of supply and demand take over at that point. Conspiracy theory time, but I would almost be willing to bet a testicle that someone, somewhere who works for the club keeps a few of each (box, bagged, exclusives) behind to scalp the hell out of on Ebay. If I ran the club, I would.

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[ChaplainAsst]

How does being a business mean all you care about is money? You have to worry about the money first, but as long as you pay everyone and pay the bills, then you get to take all that extra and do cool things with that business. Being a business first and foremost is just common sense if you want to keep being a business, club or no club.

Just because they have Golden Tickets doesn't mean they're pocketing $300 for themselves every show. That extra cash could have been used to help fund the subscription service, or give better accessories or more head sculpts or a bigger mold for a vehicle. They're never going to tell us one way or another, but I wouldn't be surprised that each year a GT is successful, it just helps to make the con sets and extras that much cooler the next year.

BUT here's the point: the vast majority HATE the golden ticket. The golden ticket is for scalpers, businesses and for collectors that often pool their resources. So, it makes little customer-service sense to sell them. What makes more sense is to make more of the items people want so that the secondary market - which I assume the club makes nothing off of (who knows what their employees do with personal items they may receive) - is devalued. You still are requiring people to attend the conference to buy the items, you are now selling more of the exclusives, but it just means that the scalper element is reduced as they have less reason to buy the items. If the Club is for collectors and fans, do something pro-active for them.

But instead, the Club is hurting the Collectors by making it even easier for scalpers and businesses to purchase extras.

The Golden Ticket is foolish for the club because those that would scalp would have to pay for each person to attend, to pay their expenses, and to pay for the individual items. By allowing ONE person to buy as much as three people, it seems they are hurting themselves, hurting the community, and forcing collectors to go outside of the club to pay tremendous amounts of money to buy items that the Club could be selling themselves.

[Jettfire]

BUT here's the point: the vast majority HATE the golden ticket. The golden ticket is for scalpers, businesses and for collectors that often pool their resources. So, it makes little customer-service sense to sell them. What makes more sense is to make more of the items people want so that the secondary market - which I assume the club makes nothing off of (who knows what their employees do with personal items they may receive) - is devalued. You still are requiring people to attend the conference to buy the items, you are now selling more of the exclusives, but it just means that the scalper element is reduced as they have less reason to buy the items. If the Club is for collectors and fans, do something pro-active for them.

But instead, the Club is hurting the Collectors by making it even easier for scalpers and businesses to purchase extras.

The Golden Ticket is foolish for the club because those that would scalp would have to pay for each person to attend, to pay their expenses, and to pay for the individual items. By allowing ONE person to buy as much as three people, it seems they are hurting themselves, hurting the community, and forcing collectors to go outside of the club to pay tremendous amounts of money to buy items that the Club could be selling themselves.

The Golden Ticket is also for guys who simply want as many Voltars as possible or have the discretionary income to army build the heck out of every figure offered. It's not their fault the rest of us are poor.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I completely agree. I'm gonna get the Con attendee set and am worried all the Golden Ticket folk are gonna hog up the attendee exclusive figures and vehicles and I'm gonna miss out when I show up Thursday evening. They should limit every item to one per attendee and 3x the amount for the Golden retrievers so that everyone there can get at least one (I only buy one of everything in my Joe collection).

Open it up on Friday to purchase another set, then Saturday for any left. That guarantees everyone stays at least three days for the Con.

Yeah I disagree with the golden ticket crap that allows you to buy out the show with like 50 people...it should be one item per ateendee and non attendee ALL. They could make all of the extras as well and sell them for a higher premium for non attendees on the homefrot package. Not everyone can just take off work and go to this stupid shows. I dont need the show..I need the figures..here are plenty of other reasons for people to go to the show if they want, like meeting the people, hanging out, seeing the premiere of the movie, seeing the sellers that show up to buy stuff from, trading and buying from fellow collectors, getting the custom figure class etc. Thats what the exclusivity of the convetnion should be, the people...not the sets/extras. If there was more of that kinda thing to enjoy I could see spending the couple thousand dollars to go spend a 2 week vacation in the area the con was going to be to enjoy it..not going to do that just because I have to rush to buy the toys I want and stand in a line for 3 days or they will sell out instantly...theres no fun in that...

Why does it all revolve around just the exclusives figures and extras? That dosen't sound like a reason to have a convention for collectors community to me. They could bank big time by not even having the stupid convention and just offer the sets through the club store every year. They then could setup pre-orders to gauge how many they needed at the first of year, or make em part of the FSS, like a premium FSS(I would rather pay higher prices to the club then ebay scalpers, because then its going to support thier club, not someones bloated wallet after the fact)).

Put those orders in and the product gets made. But like it was said above, they would rather have 50 golden ticket maniacs buy out everything then god forbid they might have a couple left over for the club store after..why Hasbro needs to inject money into their fan base club...its pathetic they are so distant form each other...its like oh you can use are name and thats it..we will support it no further then that...be nice if they would let em revisit these sets through out the year...but thats another issue entirely how Hasbro retires Joe stuff way to quickly...

[Xenos]

Just out of curiosity since I wasn't at the con last year, were there people who had full attending packages that never had a chance to get the con exclusives? If you where there right when they opened the store, were there people that didn't get what they wanted, or was it just that they sold out by the time general admission people got in?

[Starfighter]

Now is a good time to let us members know if the registration will be today instead of making us MEMBERS wait until Business Close. We need better communication, this is what I think most are upset with in terms of the Club. The Communication should always be in a timely manner, not condescending and personal to it cause. So far, it has been none of these for the past 13 days (it was implied that registration would soon open for that time frame).

[kneroh]

Just out of curiosity since I wasn't at the con last year, were there people who had full attending packages that never had a chance to get the con exclusives? If you where there right when they opened the store, were there people that didn't get what they wanted, or was it just that they sold out by the time general admission people got in?

If I remember correctly anyone who was reg'd and got in line Thursday got at least 1 of everything if they wanted it. It wasnt the same story for reg attendees who came in on Friday that wanted the exclusives.

Not sure how things will play out this year. With an addition 25 golden tickets that means a potential for 75 fewer of every item by the time standard package attendees get it line. Until that day though I'll think positive thoughts and stay optimistic.

[Gyre-Viper]

Yeah I disagree with the golden ticket crap that allows you to buy out the show with like 50 people...it should be one item per ateendee and non attendee ALL. They could make all of the extras as well and sell them for a higher premium for non attendees on the homefrot package. Not everyone can just take off work and go to this stupid shows. I dont need the show..I need the figures..here are plenty of other reasons for people to go to the show if they want, like meeting the people, hanging out, seeing the premiere of the movie, seeing the sellers that show up to buy stuff from, trading and buying from fellow collectors, getting the custom figure class etc. Thats what the exclusivity of the convetnion should be, the people...not the sets/extras. If there was more of that kinda thing to enjoy I could see spending the couple thousand dollars to go spend a 2 week vacation in the area the con was going to be to enjoy it..not going to do that just because I have to rush to buy the toys I want and stand in a line for 3 days or they will sell out instantly...theres no fun in that...

Why does it all revolve around just the exclusives figures and extras? That dosen't sound like a reason to have a convention for collectors community to me. They could bank big time by not even having the stupid convention and just offer the sets through the club store every year. They then could setup pre-orders to gauge how many they needed at the first of year, or make em part of the FSS, like a premium FSS(I would rather pay higher prices to the club then ebay scalpers, because then its going to support thier club, not someones bloated wallet after the fact)).

Put those orders in and the product gets made. But like it was said above, they would rather have 50 golden ticket maniacs buy out everything then god forbid they might have a couple left over for the club store after..why Hasbro needs to inject money into their fan base club...its pathetic they are so distant form each other...its like oh you can use are name and thats it..we will support it no further then that...be nice if they would let em revisit these sets through out the year...but thats another issue entirely how Hasbro retires Joe stuff way to quickly...



Stupid convention?


You just answered all your own questions.

Why don't you try going to con before slagging con.


On another note:

They are CONVENTION exclusives. If you don't attend the convention,
why should you be entitled to a convention exclusive?

Seems pretty simple to me.

It doesn't matter what people pay for these on the secondary market because what someone else paid between plane tickets, car rentals, food, hotel, golden ticket, exclusives etc... is still MORE than what people would pay to get one of everything on ebay after the fact. I mean golden ticket is 700, plus exclusives is like what 150ish? Plane tickets... 600? I'm just generalizing. Hotel 400+. Car 200? Again just doing this quick to prove a point. Extra stuff w/ golden ticket... between 300 and 400 extra spent to get the items (on TOP of the extra 300 for GT). Food and buying things at con from dealers... attending customizing class etc etc.
Rough math... $2,000+? It isn't like the people getting multiple items with the GT are really making anything over what they've already spent to go down there. A scalper is someone who is going to make a profit.
If anything GT holders or even just people who go and get stuff and toss it on ebay are simply making their money back. That's not exactly scalping for profit now is it. Again I was just doing rough math so feel free to prove me wrong. But I don't see too much profit if you're keeping anything for yourself.

[Duffmann]

Now is a good time to let us members know if the registration will be today instead of making us MEMBERS wait until Business Close. We need better communication, this is what I think most are upset with in terms of the Club. The Communication should always be in a timely manner, not condescending and personal to it cause. So far, it has been none of these for the past 13 days (it was implied that registration would soon open for that time frame).

agree 100% no idea what is taking them so long to open registration. It said last week 1st part of the week so I assumed that was Monday Tuesday last week. I guess for the club 1st part of the week means any week. Also why not just give the members a straight answer about what the deal is with registration. They have said for a week there is bugs I mean a day or two to fix I can see but here we are 37 days out and still nothing. I am serious they just need to break out the old fax machine dust it off and get it ready and have members just fax in there orders until the on-line registration is ready to go. I mean lets get the ball rolling club.

[Lody]

Stupid convention?


You just answered all your own questions.

Why don't you try going to con before slagging con.


On another note:

They are CONVENTION exclusives. If you don't attend the convention,
why should you be entitled to a convention exclusive?

Seems pretty simple to me.

It doesn't matter what people pay for these on the secondary market because what someone else paid between plane tickets, car rentals, food, hotel, golden ticket, exclusives etc... is still MORE than what people would pay to get one of everything on ebay after the fact. I mean golden ticket is 700, plus exclusives is like what 150ish? Plane tickets... 600? I'm just generalizing. Hotel 400+. Car 200? Again just doing this quick to prove a point. Extra stuff w/ golden ticket... between 300 and 400 extra spent to get the items (on TOP of the extra 300 for GT). Food and buying things at con from dealers... attending customizing class etc etc.
Rough math... $2,000+? It isn't like the people getting multiple items with the GT are really making anything over what they've already spent to go down there. A scalper is someone who is going to make a profit.
If anything GT holders or even just people who go and get stuff and toss it on ebay are simply making their money back. That's not exactly scalping for profit now is it. Again I was just doing rough math so feel free to prove me wrong. But I don't see too much profit if you're keeping anything for yourself.

I am pretty sure we all know why CG101 won't be going to any of the conventions......

[Roshan]

Just out of curiosity since I wasn't at the con last year, were there people who had full attending packages that never had a chance to get the con exclusives? If you where there right when they opened the store, were there people that didn't get what they wanted, or was it just that they sold out by the time general admission people got in?

No, nobody on opening night walked away with nothing if they tried to buy at least one of each.

BUT here's the point: the vast majority HATE the golden ticket. The golden ticket is for scalpers, businesses and for collectors that often pool their resources.


Well if that was your point, I really don't care. The golden ticket may attract scalpers, but that's not what it's there for. Myself and plenty of other tankers on here will attest that reselling items is not the reason they're getting a golden ticket. As for the majority of people hating the golden ticket, if true, well duh. What person at any con, or anywhere for that matter, hates the guy who's getting in line in front of him. Like that guy at the amusement park with a fast pass or whatever. Of course everyone else who doesn't have one is going to hate it. It's kinda human nature.

But for all the people that hate it, a small percentage of those will hate it to the point that they might not show up. You need at least 100 of those people to make up for that difference. I'm not talking about people who say they were going to show up anyway, I'm talking people who show up and typically show up to these shows. Because really those are the only people who's word on the subject have any bearing cause anyone on here can bitch and moan and say that's the reason they aren't going when they weren't going in the first place.

[Lody]

If I remember correctly anyone who was reg'd and got in line Thursday got at least 1 of everything if they wanted it. It wasnt the same story for reg attendees who came in on Friday that wanted the exclusives.

Not sure how things will play out this year. With an addition 25 golden tickets that means a potential for 75 fewer of every item by the time standard package attendees get it line. Until that day though I'll think positive thoughts and stay optimistic.

When I read this I was going to post:

"Well, I am SURE the club has learned a thing or two since last year as well as from other past conventions...."

Then common sense kicked in and I remembered who we were talking about

[kneroh]

I am pretty sure we all know why CG101 won't be going to any of the conventions......

Since 9/11 the TSA won't allow someone to board a plane with a note safety pinned to his bid from mommy explaining that he's not a terrorist?

[Kaedryl]

For what it's worth,

I just got off the phone with the club. The very pleasant (seriously, great phone voice/etiquette) woman I spoke to highly doubts that the registration will go live this afternoon. She sounded tired, but we had a nice talk about the webstore, and that they are waiting on the programmers.

So, keep an eye out, but CS rep for the club doubts it will be live today.

Oh, and if you do call, be polite to Angie and Karen...if Brian answers the phone, chew him out :P

[Xenos]

No, nobody on opening night walked away with nothing if they tried to buy at least one of each.

That's good to hear. I think as long as all of the people that bought the full attending packages have a shot at getting one of everything, then how they sell out of the rest doesn't really matter much.

[nova]

Secondary Market prices drive sales of the Exclusives.

Secondary market prices won't go up with the Exclusives don't sell out.

The exclusives won't sell out if they don't get close to selling out on Saturday.

The 2009 Con exclusives were barely worth what people paid for them. It was only after the 2011 exclusives sky rocketed in price that the 2009 exclusives were pulled along by the hype.

Golden ticket helps drive hype, helps move larger numbers of exclusives in the 1st day, and gives the club "money for nothing" There's now way it's going away now.

[Xenos]

If I remember correctly anyone who was reg'd and got in line Thursday got at least 1 of everything if they wanted it. It wasnt the same story for reg attendees who came in on Friday that wanted the exclusives.

Not sure how things will play out this year. With an addition 25 golden tickets that means a potential for 75 fewer of every item by the time standard package attendees get it line. Until that day though I'll think positive thoughts and stay optimistic.

I'm guessing that they are going to up the numbers on the con exclusives this year. Just judging between the extra Golden Tickets, and the fact that they upped the number of con sets.

[Roshan]

That's good to hear. I think as long as all of the people that bought the full attending packages have a shot at getting one of everything, then how they sell out of the rest doesn't really matter much.

True, but if they're doubling the GT numbers this year, and don't up the attendee exclusive numbers, there could be a problem. I don't think they'd do that, but stranger things have happened with the club over the years.

If you are at the show this year, there is usually a head's up to let you know how much of such and such is available a day before. For those picking up their con sets on Wednesday, in the con comic or con registration packet, they will usually list the attendee exclusives and the LE limited edition amount (though not the price). So if we see an exclusive limited to 400 in the packet on Wednesday, then you better show up pretty early on Thursday to get in line, just to be safe.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Stupid convention?


You just answered all your own questions.

Why don't you try going to con before slagging con.


On another note:

They are CONVENTION exclusives. If you don't attend the convention,
why should you be entitled to a convention exclusive?

Seems pretty simple to me.

It doesn't matter what people pay for these on the secondary market because what someone else paid between plane tickets, car rentals, food, hotel, golden ticket, exclusives etc... is still MORE than what people would pay to get one of everything on ebay after the fact. I mean golden ticket is 700, plus exclusives is like what 150ish? Plane tickets... 600? I'm just generalizing. Hotel 400+. Car 200? Again just doing this quick to prove a point. Extra stuff w/ golden ticket... between 300 and 400 extra spent to get the items (on TOP of the extra 300 for GT). Food and buying things at con from dealers... attending customizing class etc etc.
Rough math... $2,000+? It isn't like the people getting multiple items with the GT are really making anything over what they've already spent to go down there. A scalper is someone who is going to make a profit.
If anything GT holders or even just people who go and get stuff and toss it on ebay are simply making their money back. That's not exactly scalping for profit now is it. Again I was just doing rough math so feel free to prove me wrong. But I don't see too much profit if you're keeping anything for yourself.

So what your saying is that your ok with the golden ticket people buying out the show to pay for their trips on the secodnary market after? So when all the extras sell out cause they can buy multiples of what others who just attending only get one of (and might not get all becasue the golden ticket people buy them out) is ok too? This is why i wont go...theres no garuntee even if I attend Iw ill get what i want after spending thousands to go...if they are going to cater the attending exclusives to a set number of attendees who paid an astronimcal fee just to buy em out and then make the rest of the attendees fret that they will sell out before they even get in the building? Yeah that sounds like SDCC to me...and in no way would I want to spend ALL of that money you mentioned just to go just for the "exclusives"...thats madness you describe son..pure madness...again that totally defeats teh purpose of a fun convention for the club members...since the focus is purley on standing in line to make money...

[Gyre-Viper]

I am pretty sure we all know why CG101 won't be going to any of the conventions......


teh aprents go all ben tout of shape timmeh.

[RolandofGilead]

Do the con exclusive figures and vehicle numbers match those of the con figure packs, or do they make more boxed sets?

[Roshan]

Do the con exclusive figures and vehicle numbers match those of the con figure packs, or do they make more boxed sets?


It varies. Starfighter put up a list a couple pages back showing last years numbers. Typically vehicles have the lowest run.

[RolandofGilead]

I was just trying to see if we could estimate just how many exclusives would be available based on the increased number of boxed sets this year.

[RuckusJr]

teh aprents go all ben tout of shape timmeh.

qft!

[Gyre-Viper]

So what your saying is that your ok with the golden ticket people buying out the show to pay for their trips on the secodnary market after? So when all the extras sell out cause they can buy multiples of what others who just attending only get one of (and might not get all becasue the golden ticket people buy them out) is ok too? This is why i wont go...theres no garuntee even if I attend Iw ill get what i want after spending thousands to go...if they are going to cater the attending exclusives to a set number of attendees who paid an astronimcal fee just to buy em out and then make the rest of the attendees fret that they will sell out before they even get in the building? Yeah that sounds like SDCC to me...and in no way would I want to spend ALL of that money you mentioned just to go just for the "exclusives"...thats madness you describe son..pure madness...again that totally defeats teh purpose of a fun convention for the club members...since the focus is purley on standing in line to make money...

No, I'm not speaking to people attending not getting things. I mean it's one thing if you show up like Saturday for a convention that has pick up on Wednesday. I'm not talking about that. I'm speaking about the people who don't attend con but seem to feel entitled to convention exclusives.

As for the GT, I'm like Roshan. The GT allows me to enjoy con to the fullest. Whether it's something as tiny as sitting in the front row at panels or watching a retired Hasbro designer try to eat sushi while
certain banned members of this forum ask redundant and insignificant questions about which GI JOE was their favorite to work on back in 87.

At the same time, calling people scalpers who aren't actually making money as much as making money back.... is a little harsh.

And let's be honest... there are people on this forum who complain about scalpers who ARE scalpers. Just because someone says they don't like the GT doesn't mean they wouldn't get one and exploit it or utilize or whatever. That's the problem with taking certain things on forums as fact. So while it's fun to discuss... let's be honest... all these 'help a tanker out' threads aren't always what they seem to be. So let's not pretend that the bad guys are all GT holders.

Just like with toys... it comes down to... you pay for it... you get it.
You don't pay for it... you don't get it.

It also comes down to very simple dictionary definitions of the word EXCLUSIVE.

And by the way, the convention set is at the bottom of my list of reasons that con is fun. Con is fun cuz con is fucking fun. The PEOPLE make con fun... not the exclusives, not the sets, not the money spent, etc.

[Roshan]

I was just trying to see if we could estimate just how many exclusives would be available based on the increased number of boxed sets this year.

Well there's two numbers to consider there. They've said in the brochure there are only 600 sets. But how many of those sets will be opened up to non-attendees who won't have a crack at the con only exclusives? Hard to answer your question when we really can't estimate how many attendee con sets there will be.

[CrimsonGuard101]

No, I'm not speaking to people attending not getting things. I mean it's one thing if you show up like Saturday for a convention that has pick up on Wednesday. I'm not talking about that. I'm speaking about the people who don't attend con but seem to feel entitled to convention exclusives.

As for the GT, I'm like Roshan. The GT allows me to enjoy con to the fullest. Whether it's something as tiny as sitting in the front row at panels or watching a retired Hasbro designer try to eat sushi while
certain banned members of this forum ask redundant and insignificant questions about which GI JOE was their favorite to work on back in 87.

At the same time, calling people scalpers who aren't actually making money as much as making money back.... is a little harsh.

And let's be honest... there are people on this forum who complain about scalpers who ARE scalpers. Just because someone says they don't like the GT doesn't mean they wouldn't get one and exploit it or utilize or whatever. That's the problem with taking certain things on forums as fact. So while it's fun to discuss... let's be honest... all these 'help a tanker out' threads aren't always what they seem to be. So let's not pretend that the bad guys are all GT holders.

Just like with toys... it comes down to... you pay for it... you get it.
You don't pay for it... you don't get it.

It also comes down to very simple dictionary definitions of the word EXCLUSIVE.

And by the way, the convention set is at the bottom of my list of reasons that con is fun. Con is fun cuz con is fucking fun. The PEOPLE make con fun... not the exclusives, not the sets, not the money spent, etc.

I dunno, it is just bad to draw in more gold diggers, I just feel that is the wrong precedence to set with the golden ticket idea for a club run event, I want to meet Joe fans, not WWE fans trying to make a quick mint off my fellow joe colectors. I can see it as a good thing if you wanna do all of these extra-exclusive things, like buying a box seat at the ball game vs. general admission seats while your at the con to go watch a game with the other super elite. But the toys you get should not be part of that package, you can get 1 of each like every other attendee, not 45 each to buy out the extras people going want to get too, I think they should go to the all general attendees for showing up to begin with, then the extras can be purchased the last day a few hours beofre the show closes if you had a golden ticket purhcase. Not just a select few of the attendees who showed up at 2 am 4 days beofre the show to camp out side. It also just drives up the price and demand for sell out buy driving more non-fan base buyers to the shows...just for pure profit.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I'd be perfectly fine paying a deposit each year during annual sign up to guarantee one of each con exclusive in addition to a box set. This would fill the club coffers a bit allowing for development of even better sets/exclusives and help them gauge interest on how many sets they need to order.

[RolandofGilead]

It seems to me that we're talking to two different types of con attendees. Those that feel everyone should have the chance to buy one of each if they attend, and those that believe any money you can get back to cover your con expenses is part of the experience.

And chances are good that the one for everyone crowd have missed out on items a time or two in the past and found that it sucks. It's easy to say that the more money you have to spend, the more you deserve to get when you've never have to worry about missing out.

What I find a contradiction is the club's decision to make Homefront Heroes wait for attendees because they want to be sure attendees get the chance to owna con set. It flies in the face of the ultimate results of the Golden Ticket package.

[skinny]

There is never anything happening on Thursday night anyway other than standing in line.

according to schedule:
last year it was the customizing class until 5, then at 6 you could pick up your set.
on Friday at 930am the club store was to open.

So if I have to sit in line and fill out my order form and blab with other collectors for a few hours im ok with it. not like I have anywhere else to be.

I am going to get crucified here but honestly all Joecon really needs is one exclusive figure and maybe a vehicle.
why?
it works for the 12 inch crowd, it works for SDCC it works for Star Wars conventions, it works at other GIJOE conventions, it can work for the 3 inch crowd.
there is no need for a 15 figure set. its excessive. let the licensees and vendors have exclusives, let Hasbro sell an exclusive at their booth through HTS. Invite 80's tees to come sell exclusive shirts (not the official con shirts but GIJOE themed) spread the wealth. Get Sideshow to make a Joecon exclusive, think outside the box a little here.

Of course the club can't license the GIJOE brand but they could certainly license their own convention branding.

The crux here is that there used to be exclusives that were just repaints, nothing more, maybe an original club created character, but now, the line has so many characters, and people are trying to fill holes in their collection. It isnt "oh I have a flint I need another flint coz this one is purple" It has become, "oh crap Hasbro won't make Horrorshow so my only chance at ever getting him is through the club."

So the club can make 600 sets of 15 OR they could have made 9000 Horrorshows and sold them through the club store at the convention or post convention. same amount of figures AND less development cost.

[Roshan]

I'd be perfectly fine paying a deposit each year during annual sign up to guarantee one of each con exclusive in addition to a box set. This would fill the club coffers a bit allowing for development of even better sets/exclusives and help them gauge interest on how many sets they need to order.

I don't think anyone could have a real gripe about this (maybe those who can't swing all that cash at once, but at the very least, if told in advance they couldn't say it wasn't fairer than the current system).

The con questionnaires they give out at the show are the perfect place to let your voice be heard on that respect. There's a section asking how can they improve con for next year. If everyone fills pre-orders in that space, it might make some headway.

[kneroh]

It seems like most of the people complaining about the Golden Ticket aren't even attending the con. If that's the case the the Club could give zero fucks about your gripes.

[RuckusJr]

I dunno, it is just bad to draw in more gold diggers, I just feel that is the wrong precedence to set with the golden ticket idea for a club run event, I want to meet Joe fans, not WWE fans trying to make a quick mint off my fellow joe colectors. I can see it as a good thing if you wanna do all of these extra-exclusive things, like buying a box seat at the ball game vs. general admission seats while your at the con to go watch a game with the other super elite. But the toys you get should not be part of that package, you can get 1 of each liek every other attendee, not 45 each to buy out the extras people going want ot get too, I think they should go to the all general attendees for showing up to begin with, then the extras can be purchased the last day a few hours beofre the show closes. Not just a select few of the attendees. It also just drives up the price and demand for sell out buy driving more non-fan base buyers to the shows...just for pure profit.

I understand the sentiment of your statement, but it's not easy to make money off this, even with the Golden Ticket. If anyone could make money off the Con, a lot more people would go.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I don't think anyone could have a real gripe about this (maybe those who can't swing all that cash at once, but at the very least, if told in advance they couldn't say it wasn't fairer than the current system).

The con questionnaires they give out at the show are the perfect place to let your voice be heard on that respect. There's a section asking how can they improve con for next year. If everyone fills pre-orders in that space, it might make some headway.

Do they make this form available to non-attendees (rhetorical)? :) be nice to be able to fill in that questionaire to make your suggestion...but aas the non-attendees have no say in such matters...

There is never anything happening on Thursday night anyway other than standing in line.

according to schedule:
last year it was the customizing class until 5, then at 6 you could pick up your set.
on Friday at 930am the club store was to open.

So if I have to sit in line and fill out my order form and blab with other collectors for a few hours im ok with it. not like I have anywhere else to be.

I am going to get crucified here but honestly all Joecon really needs is one exclusive figure and maybe a vehicle.
why?
it works for the 12 inch crowd, it works for SDCC it works for Star Wars conventions, it works at other GIJOE conventions, it can work for the 3 inch crowd.
there is no need for a 15 figure set. its excessive. let the licensees and vendors have exclusives, let Hasbro sell an exclusive at their booth through HTS. Invite 80's tees to come sell exclusive shirts (not the official con shirts but GIJOE themed) spread the wealth. Get Sideshow to make a Joecon exclusive, think outside the box a little here.

Of course the club can't license the GIJOE brand but they could certainly license their own convention branding.

The crux here is that there used to be exclusives that were just repaints, nothing more, maybe an original club created character, but now, the line has so many characters, and people are trying to fill holes in their collection. It isnt "oh I have a flint I need another flint coz this one is purple" It has become, "oh crap Hasbro won't make Horrorshow so my only chance at ever getting him is through the club."

So the club can make 600 sets of 15 OR they could have made 9000 Horrorshows and sold them through the club store at the convention or post convention. same amount of figures AND less development cost.



Agree on all points 100%

[Roshan]

There is never anything happening on Thursday night anyway other than standing in line.


You're forgetting the after registration dinner. It's unofficial, but is always well attended and a great place to hang out and meet and greet with other collectors.



I am going to get crucified here but honestly all Joecon really needs is one exclusive figure and maybe a vehicle.
why?
it works for the 12 inch crowd, it works for SDCC it works for Star Wars conventions, it works at other GIJOE conventions, it can work for the 3 inch crowd.
there is no need for a 15 figure set. its excessive. let the licensees and vendors have exclusives, let Hasbro sell an exclusive at their booth through HTS. Invite 80's tees to come sell exclusive shirts (not the official con shirts but GIJOE themed) spread the wealth. Get Sideshow to make a Joecon exclusive, think outside the box a little here.


The rest of the con going community really doesn't agree with you on that one. So "honestly", you're just giving your opinion. Other joe conventions have more than one figure as well. Canada Con usually has multiple vehicles and figures. Given the opportunity, Roll Out Roll Call will probably build to bigger sets too.

So the club can make 600 sets of 15 OR they could have made 9000 Horrorshows and sold them through the club store at the convention or post convention. same amount of figures AND less development cost.

9000 Horrorshows? Sold only through the club site or at the show? Sounds like 5000 Horrorshows sitting in boxes at the Club Warehouse for years.

It seems to me that we're talking to two different types of con attendees. Those that feel everyone should have the chance to buy one of each if they attend, and those that believe any money you can get back to cover your con expenses is part of the experience.

Add a third option: Those that feel everyone should have a chance to buy one on the day the club says people should show up if they want to get one of each figure.

[Lody]

So what your saying is that your ok with the golden ticket people buying out the show to pay for their trips on the secodnary market after? So when all the extras sell out cause they can buy multiples of what others who just attending only get one of (and might not get all becasue the golden ticket people buy them out) is ok too? This is why i wont go...theres no garuntee even if I attend Iw ill get what i want after spending thousands to go...if they are going to cater the attending exclusives to a set number of attendees who paid an astronimcal fee just to buy em out and then make the rest of the attendees fret that they will sell out before they even get in the building? Yeah that sounds like SDCC to me...and in no way would I want to spend ALL of that money you mentioned just to go just for the "exclusives"...thats madness you describe son..pure madness...again that totally defeats teh purpose of a fun convention for the club members...since the focus is purley on standing in line to make money...

Umm

Quite a few people buy extras with the only intent of reselling them to pay for their trip

Been going on for years and people have gone as so far as to identify this in their auctions.

How do you think I have the awesome collection I do? I buy extras to resell and recoup my cost. In the end, while everyone else would have paid $100,000 over the last 14 years to build their toy collection, the one I have I spent less than $10,000

Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp?

[RuckusJr]

It seems to me that we're talking to two different types of con attendees. Those that feel everyone should have the chance to buy one of each if they attend, and those that believe any money you can get back to cover your con expenses is part of the experience.

And chances are good that the one for everyone crowd have missed out on items a time or two in the past and found that it sucks. It's easy to say that the more money you have to spend, the more you deserve to get when you've never have to worry about missing out.

What I find a contradiction is the club's decision to make Homefront Heroes wait for attendees because they want to be sure attendees get the chance to owna con set. It flies in the face of the ultimate results of the Golden Ticket package.

The idea is to grow the Con itself. The Con isn't about the set, and that's what Gary is talking about. I, personally, would hate to see it become like what I hear about Botcon, but it could really be so much more. I went last year and really missed out on the Con. I shouldn't have made it a dual purpose trip and should have just gone for the Con. But that being said, it's not like there was a ton to do. I'm used to SDCC where I have to pick and choose, and this wasn't like that. I was a little disappointed and decided to just skip pretty much everything. I only met a couple of people and pretty much swore off the Con. Over the last year, I've gotten to know a few of the Con regulars and am kicking myself for not introducing myself to people and not taking in the Con like I should have.

[Lody]

The GT allows me to enjoy con to the fullest. Whether it's something as tiny as sitting in the front row at panels or watching a retired Hasbro designer try to eat sushi while
certain banned members of this forum ask redundant and insignificant questions about which GI JOE was their favorite to work on back in 87.

Hey!

I only did that once!

[Gyre-Viper]

I dunno, it is just bad to draw in more gold diggers, I just feel that is the wrong precedence to set with the golden ticket idea for a club run event, I want to meet Joe fans, not WWE fans trying to make a quick mint off my fellow joe colectors. I can see it as a good thing if you wanna do all of these extra-exclusive things, like buying a box seat at the ball game vs. general admission seats while your at the con to go watch a game with the other super elite. But the toys you get should not be part of that package, you can get 1 of each like every other attendee, not 45 each to buy out the extras people going want to get too, I think they should go to the all general attendees for showing up to begin with, then the extras can be purchased the last day a few hours beofre the show closes if you had a golden ticket purhcase. Not just a select few of the attendees who showed up at 2 am 4 days beofre the show to camp out side. It also just drives up the price and demand for sell out buy driving more non-fan base buyers to the shows...just for pure profit.


There is no pure profit. The only people making pure profit are the successful dealers at con. Sure the Club makes money but they also have a convention the following year. Or did you think Prupis, Hama, Bozigian show up for free? Those con sets make themselves etc.
The math basically (and roughly) breaks down to what like $400 profit MAYBE if you keep one of everything for yourself? MAYBE double that if
you sell everything after the fact? And that money is just going to be recycled by said person going to con the next year. So it kinda washes out. I mean I get what you're saying... this is ME talking. The past two years I've given ALL my con stuff away for free. So I'm not defending the evil hoarder scalping creatures of the night you've put forth. I'm suggesting that nothing is that black and white.

There is never anything happening on Thursday night anyway other than standing in line.

according to schedule:
last year it was the customizing class until 5, then at 6 you could pick up your set.
on Friday at 930am the club store was to open.

So if I have to sit in line and fill out my order form and blab with other collectors for a few hours im ok with it. not like I have anywhere else to be.

I am going to get crucified here but honestly all Joecon really needs is one exclusive figure and maybe a vehicle.
why?
it works for the 12 inch crowd, it works for SDCC it works for Star Wars conventions, it works at other GIJOE conventions, it can work for the 3 inch crowd.
there is no need for a 15 figure set. its excessive. let the licensees and vendors have exclusives, let Hasbro sell an exclusive at their booth through HTS. Invite 80's tees to come sell exclusive shirts (not the official con shirts but GIJOE themed) spread the wealth. Get Sideshow to make a Joecon exclusive, think outside the box a little here.

Of course the club can't license the GIJOE brand but they could certainly license their own convention branding.

The crux here is that there used to be exclusives that were just repaints, nothing more, maybe an original club created character, but now, the line has so many characters, and people are trying to fill holes in their collection. It isnt "oh I have a flint I need another flint coz this one is purple" It has become, "oh crap Hasbro won't make Horrorshow so my only chance at ever getting him is through the club."

So the club can make 600 sets of 15 OR they could have made 9000 Horrorshows and sold them through the club store at the convention or post convention. same amount of figures AND less development cost.


Have you been to con? I'd fly in Monday if I could. I don't know what other people do from Wednesday to Sunday but for me... and for many many many others... con starts Wednesday. Wed and Thurs are the social "hey nice to meet you or to see you again" days. The let's go out or let's meet up etc. That's the invaluable stuff that carries through till Sunday and for every year after. That's the summer camp shit and I really didn't like missing it last year showing up Thursday night. It's totally worth it to show up Wed or Thurs depending on what you want to get out of con.

[CrimsonGuard101]

How do you think I have the awesome collection I do? ?

Scalping :) too soon?

[RolandofGilead]

The idea is to grow the Con itself. The Con isn't about the set, and that's what Gary is talking about. I, personally, would hate to see it become like what I hear about Botcon, but it could really be so much more. I went last year and really missed out on the Con. I shouldn't have made it a dual purpose trip and should have just gone for the Con. But that being said, it's not like there was a ton to do. I'm used to SDCC where I have to pick and choose, and this wasn't like that. I was a little disappointed and decided to just skip pretty much everything. I only met a couple of people and pretty much swore off the Con. Over the last year, I've gotten to know a few of the Con regulars and am kicking myself for not introducing myself to people and not taking in the Con like I should have.

I remember you were a bit disappointed with the con last year. It's nice to know you may have found a reason to return.

[zx670]

What I find a contradiction is the club's decision to make Homefront Heroes wait for attendees because they want to be sure attendees get the chance to owna con set. It flies in the face of the ultimate results of the Golden Ticket package.

GT people only get the chance to get one boxed and bagged set as well, so I am not sure what your gripe is. I don't see the issue with the Club waiting to see if 600 attendees sign up. If so, there won't be any boxed sets for the Homefront Heroes to get. Makes perfect sense to me.

You're forgetting the after registration dinner. It's unofficial, but is always well attended and a great place to hang out and meet and greet with other collectors.

I am imagining, based on the times I've been to NO, that this will be split up into multiple registration dinners. Most restaurants in NO do not have the space for bigger groups without a long wait. Granted, I don't know the entire city, but most places I've been to are smaller, and getting tables even for 8-10 can be difficult.

[skinny]

You're forgetting the after registration dinner. It's unofficial, but is always well attended and a great place to hang out and meet and greet with other collectors.




The rest of the con going community really doesn't agree with you on that one. So "honestly", you're just giving your opinion. Other joe conventions have more than one figure as well. Canada Con usually has multiple vehicles and figures. Given the opportunity, Roll Out Roll Call will probably build to bigger sets too.



9000 Horrorshows? Sold only through the club site or at the show? Sounds like 5000 Horrorshows sitting in boxes at the Club Warehouse for years.



Add a third option: Those that feel everyone should have a chance to buy one on the day the club says people should show up if they want to get one of each figure.

true but no official events.

true thats my opinion, based on other cons I have been to or observed, a lot of cons dont even have exclusive figures, such as Star Trek, Dr Who, Stargate, etc etc etc.

definitely an exaggerated example but you get my drift, the 9000 figure count was just equal to how many figures they produce for a 15 figure set, and I know full well how stuff like heavy water can sit in the warehouse for years.

no offense but what is your third option?

[RuckusJr]

I remember you were a bit disappointed with the con last year. It's nice to know you may have found a reason to return.

Yeah. I don't know if I'd fly across the country again for it, but if it was in Dallas, Denver, KC, StL I'd go. It all depends on dates, of course. School, work, etc...

[Roshan]

I am imagining, based on the times I've been to NO, that this will be split up into multiple registration dinners. Most restaurants in NO do not have the space for bigger groups without a long wait. Granted, I don't know the entire city, but most places I've been to are smaller, and getting tables even for 8-10 can be difficult.

Usually there are a few people (cmderinchief being the chief amongst them) who scout a spout ahead of time that can hold 50+ people to eat and try to give them a heads up we'll be coming. Last year it was ESPNZone at Disney, the year before that was Old Chicago I think at Rhode Island and I can't remember before that. It started smaller a number of years ago and has kept building.

[CrimsonGuard101]

There is no pure profit. The only people making pure profit are the successful dealers at con. Sure the Club makes money but they also have a convention the following year. Or did you think Prupis, Hama, Bozigian show up for free? Those con sets make themselves etc.
The math basically (and roughly) breaks down to what like $400 profit MAYBE if you keep one of everything for yourself? MAYBE double that if
you sell everything after the fact? And that money is just going to be recycled by said person going to con the next year. So it kinda washes out. I mean I get what you're saying... this is ME talking. The past two years I've given ALL my con stuff away for free. So I'm not defending the evil hoarder scalping creatures of the night you've put forth. I'm suggesting that nothing is that black and white.





Have you been to con? I'd fly in Monday if I could. I don't know what other people do from Wednesday to Sunday but for me... and for many many many others... con starts Wednesday. Wed and Thurs are the social "hey nice to meet you or to see you again" days. The let's go out or let's meet up etc. That's the invaluable stuff that carries through till Sunday and for every year after. That's the summer camp shit and I really didn't like missing it last year showing up Thursday night. It's totally worth it to show up Wed or Thurs depending on what you want to get out of con.

I get what your saying, but your the diamond int he rough. If you truly do these things, there's at least 100 others that dont...If everyone attended con was that thoughtful and cool..I'd be more willing to go....I just think anyone who puts for the effort to go and spends the money they will need to go and enjoy it should be treated equally..goldent ticket dosent do that...its hey if you spent an additional $500 well treat you better then the rest of the attendees. If I register and then make the trip...I should get those exclusive benefits too. If these were items i could get form Hasbro officially then it wouldn't be a big deal, just like skinny said...

[Roshan]

no offense but what is your third option?

I was multiquoting in that post. Responding to Rolandofgilead's two options. Wasn't talking to you at that part of the post.

[RolandofGilead]

GT people only get the chance to get one boxed and bagged set as well, so I am not sure what your gripe is. I don't see the issue with the Club waiting to see if 600 attendees sign up. If so, there won't be any boxed sets for the Homefront Heroes to get. Makes perfect sense to me.

as I understand it, GT holders can purchase multiple sets for the At Con exclusives and have the right to jump ahead of everyone else in line to do it. I don't begrudge them ts as that's what they paid to do. I am simply saying that the club is so concerned about attendees getting the boxed figure sets but it stops there with no apparent concern that there is enough of the other exclusives available to all attendees.

This isn't a personal issue with me as I am not attending, I am just pointing out the contradiction. I guess the at con sets are not meant for all in the way the boxed sets are.

[kneroh]

as I understand it, GT holders can purchase multiple sets for the At Con exclusives and have the right to jump ahead of everyone else in line to do it. I don't begrudge them ts as that's what they paid to do. I am simply saying that the club is so concerned about attendees getting the boxed figure sets but it stops there with no apparent concern that there is enough of the other exclusives available to all attendees.

This isn't a personal issue with me as I am not attending, I am just pointing out the contradiction. I guess the at con sets are not meant for all in the way the boxed sets are.

They don't get to cut everyone in line for exclusives, the joe store opens an hour earlier for them is the only thing.

[CrimsonGuard101]

as I understand it, GT holders can purchase multiple sets for the At Con exclusives and have the right to jump ahead of everyone else in line to do it. I don't begrudge them ts as that's what they paid to do. I am simply saying that the club is so concerned about attendees getting the boxed figure sets but it stops there with no apparent concern that there is enough of the other exclusives available to all attendees.

This isn't a personal issue with me as I am not attending, I am just pointing out the contradiction. I guess the at con sets are not meant for all in the way the boxed sets are.

This is what i haven trying to get out...well said...

They don't get to cut everyone in line for exclusives, the joe store opens an hour earlier for them is the only thing.

Thats the same thing lol...if they are all standing in line early.. and they ask for the GT peeps to go in..they just cut way ahead of everyone else...

[WildWeaselZ06]

I used to know a few places there that can host large parties. It may require a trek though. The other option Is a dinner cruise on the Natchez riverboat, heck I was wondering if there would be any interest in that for Wednesday or Tuesday night.

[Roshan]

I guess the at con sets are not meant for all in the way the boxed sets are.

They are meant for all who show up on Thursday. They even lay it out in the information pdf

"Make sure you are there for package pick-up on Thursday night
so that you won’t miss this year’s souvenirs!"

[Gyre-Viper]

They don't get to cut everyone in line for exclusives, the joe store opens an hour earlier for them is the only thing.


It's not hard to cut in line if you accidentally step on Tom while doing it.
Last year I sat on the poor, below-sea-level chap.

[Roshan]

I used to know a few places there that can host large parties. It may require a trek though. The other option Is a dinner cruise on the Natchez riverboat, heck I was wondering if there would be any interest in that for Wednesday or Tuesday night.

Usually the meet and greet is open for anyone to attend and have the option to hand out and not have to buy anything. A river cruise would probably keep a lot of people from showing up. Also, people slowly roll in at the after reg dinner since not everyone gets through the line at the same time.

[skinny]

I was multiquoting in that post. Responding to Rolandofgilead's two options. Wasn't talking to you at that part of the post.

well that makes more sense now. when replying it didnt say who said what

[RolandofGilead]

They are meant for all who show up on Thursday. They even lay it out in the information pdf

"Make sure you are there for package pick-up on Thursday night
so that you won’t miss this year’s souvenirs!"

Then that settles it. The boxed sets are intended for all, but the at con exclusives are ultimately only for those who get there early enough. There's nothing wrong with that, but it still sucks if you're the one who misses out.

[Lody]

Scalping :) too soon?

And he wonders why he can't go to the cons......

[CrimsonGuard101]

And he wonders why he can't go to the cons......

I could go... but it might ruin your time...so I am doing you a favor Lody...maybe next year...Ill make a special trip just for you :) come follow you around asking you a million questions like a lost pup...

[Starfighter]

For what it's worth,

I just got off the phone with the club. The very pleasant (seriously, great phone voice/etiquette) woman I spoke to highly doubts that the registration will go live this afternoon. She sounded tired, but we had a nice talk about the webstore, and that they are waiting on the programmers.

So, keep an eye out, but CS rep for the club doubts it will be live today.

Oh, and if you do call, be polite to Angie and Karen...if Brian answers the phone, chew him out :P


NICE! GREAT COMMUNICATION VIA THE CLUB! Here it is yet again nearing the end of their business hours and the members have not been told anything. People are asking then all over the place and yet they cannot give us a straight answer. They even ignore the Facebook posts requesting the time. What is the Deal? Will it or will it not be today? That is all we want to know. They have nearly passed the deadline for today in giving us notice in a timely manner in my opinion. What are the befits of being a member again? I am just saying.

[Black Llama]

I thought we all agreed on McDonald's after reg? What happened to the Gyre vs Roshan McNugget eating competition :\

[Roshan]

I thought we all agreed on McDonald's after reg? What happened to the Gyre vs Roshan McNugget eating competition :\

He wouldn't stand a chance.

[kneroh]

edits abound!

[Black Llama]

What are the befits of being a member again? I am just saying.

Well you do have access to the sandwich....

http://media.lunch.com/d/d7/261548.jpg?2


Wait, what... I don't have to be in the club to order the sandwich? DAMN!

[Roshan]

edits abound!

Yea, I'm pretty certain you would have had a field day with the original.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I don't think anyone could have a real gripe about this (maybe those who can't swing all that cash at once, but at the very least, if told in advance they couldn't say it wasn't fairer than the current system).

The con questionnaires they give out at the show are the perfect place to let your voice be heard on that respect. There's a section asking how can they improve con for next year. If everyone fills pre-orders in that space, it might make some headway.

Let's vote for pre-orders then.

[Gyre-Viper]

I thought we all agreed on McDonald's after reg? What happened to the Gyre vs Roshan McNugget eating competition :\

He wouldn't stand a chance.


I don't eat mcdonalds so yeah Roshan would win.

Now if it was potbelly or tacos... Roshan would be crushed.

[kneroh]

I don't eat mcdonalds so yeah Roshan would win.

Now if it was potbelly or tacos... Roshan would be crushed.

Mc-E-litist

[Roshan]

I don't eat mcdonalds so yeah Roshan would win.

Now if it was potbelly or tacos... Roshan would be crushed.

Yea, I'd tally a score of 0 eating either of those two choices. I really don't like mcnuggets either, but I find them at least to be edible.

[Starfighter]

Well look here, NEWS!!! -They have replied to someone on Facebook today about 10 minutes ago in regards to registering for the Con today, "I think that would be safe to say. I'm very sorry. I am just passing along the information I have."

[RolandofGilead]

No registration today?

If it's the same one that stopped the subscription figure program, then that must be one heck of a bug.

[Duffmann]

No registration today?

If it's the same one that stopped the subscription figure program, then that must be one heck of a bug.

We are going on week 2 or 3 talking about registration and still nothing. i expect an e-mail from the Club saying the same thing the last e-mails said.

No registration we are sorry. Should be soon, please hang in there and see you all in New Orleans (blah blah blah).

[CrimsonGuard101]

No registration today?

If it's the same one that stopped the subscription figure program, then that must be one heck of a bug.

From the looks of things it looks like they got the Iranain STUXNET virus or something lol...I dunno what cracker jack company they using for operations, but they must also run the printing company, shipping company and all other facets that actually run the core of the clubs bizness at this point...

[Trigue]

incase it's missed in the other thread. Just got this e-mail from the club.
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Hello all!

Well, once again I have to tell you registration is not going to be up today. I'm going to give them all day tomorrow to retest the system so we will try again on Wednesday. There are some individual browsers that are creating java issues with required fields and we don't want your information to come in incomplete as this could hinder your registration being approved.

Again, just to make sure when it does go live that your registration is error free, please review the new package matrix and the FAQs.

Thanks for your patience.

See you in NOLA!

Brian
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[Starfighter]

incase it's missed in the other thread. Just got this e-mail from the club.
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Hello all!

Well, once again I have to tell you registration is not going to be up today. I'm going to give them all day tomorrow to retest the system so we will try again on Wednesday. There are some individual browsers that are creating java issues with required fields and we don't want your information to come in incomplete as this could hinder your registration being approved.

Again, just to make sure when it does go live that your registration is error free, please review the new package matrix and the FAQs.

Thanks for your patience.

See you in NOLA!

Brian
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That is what I got as well. At least we get to take a day off from refreshing and wondering. On that note, it is refreshing to hear some news that we can use from the Club in a timely manner. See, the members will be less frustrated with some honest email that is not condescending, that is done in a timely manner and also makes us feel part of something.

[Duffmann]

well that stinks Wednesday i will be unable to be on line from 8:30 am tell 1 in the afternoon.

[Hellion42]

java

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/brickwall.gif

With each passing day I feel less and less confident in this going off without a hitch or twelve. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/raincloud.gif

[zx670]

as I understand it, GT holders can purchase multiple sets for the At Con exclusives and have the right to jump ahead of everyone else in line to do it. I don't begrudge them ts as that's what they paid to do. I am simply saying that the club is so concerned about attendees getting the boxed figure sets but it stops there with no apparent concern that there is enough of the other exclusives available to all attendees.

This isn't a personal issue with me as I am not attending, I am just pointing out the contradiction. I guess the at con sets are not meant for all in the way the boxed sets are.

Ah, right, ok. I thought you were also talking of the boxed sets. Those are one per registration, GT or regular.

They don't get to cut everyone in line for exclusives, the joe store opens an hour earlier for them is the only thing.

Semantics.

I used to know a few places there that can host large parties. It may require a trek though. The other option Is a dinner cruise on the Natchez riverboat, heck I was wondering if there would be any interest in that for Wednesday or Tuesday night.

That's what I meant, most places near the French Quarter/Convention areas are not big enough for something like that, and definitely wouldn't hold a space for 50 come-and-goers. Most would want all or most of your party to be there in order to be sat, which would be a nightmare for us. Again, I could be wrong. I'm not as familiar with NO where our hotel is, the Convention area.

It's not hard to cut in line if you accidentally step on Tom while doing it.
Last year I sat on the poor, below-sea-level chap.

Zing!

I thought we all agreed on McDonald's after reg? What happened to the Gyre vs Roshan McNugget eating competition :\

I've already purchased my front row seats!

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/brickwall.gif

With each passing day I feel less and less confident in this going off without a hitch or twelve. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/raincloud.gif

Same here.

[zx670]

incase it's missed in the other thread. Just got this e-mail from the club.
--------------

Hello all!

Well, once again I have to tell you registration is not going to be up today. I'm going to give them all day tomorrow to retest the system so we will try again on Wednesday. There are some individual browsers that are creating java issues with required fields and we don't want your information to come in incomplete as this could hinder your registration being approved.

Again, just to make sure when it does go live that your registration is error free, please review the new package matrix and the FAQs.

Thanks for your patience.

See you in NOLA!

Brian
------------

Ok, as a software developer, java issues with required fields should be pretty easy to get right. If that is really the issue, that is rather sad.

[Duffmann]

so the club just posted this on facebook.

GIJoeCon (Official) Gentlemen. This timeframe was not the plan. This is the first time this has happened. Sometimes things happen that are outside of our control.


Maybe just maybe instead of relying on others the club should just do things for themselves like they use to.

[Black Llama]

so the club just posted this on facebook.

GIJoeCon (Official) Gentlemen. This timeframe was not the plan. This is the first time this has happened. Sometimes things happen that are outside of our control.


Maybe just maybe instead of relying on others the club should just do things for themselves like they use to.

So I wonder how this bodes for their "Wednesday" time frame.....

[KrymsynGardImmoral]

so the club just posted this on facebook.

GIJoeCon (Official) Gentlemen. This timeframe was not the plan. This is the first time this has happened. Sometimes things happen that are outside of our control.


Maybe just maybe instead of relying on others the club should just do things for themselves like they use to.

Do they still make fax machines?

[Black Llama]

Do they still make fax machines?

Sorry K. At this point I'm thinking the club is using Microfiche.

[kneroh]

so the club just posted this on facebook.

GIJoeCon (Official) Gentlemen. This timeframe was not the plan. This is the first time this has happened. Sometimes things happen that are outside of our control.


Maybe just maybe instead of relying on others the club should just do things for themselves like they use to.

Sometimes? It seems like there's been a 50 issues outside of their control this year. What exactly are they in control of?

Mailing their newsletter? No.
Securing a hotel and setting a date for Joecon? No.
Tracking their shipments of Footloose? No.
Securing their members credit card and personal information? No.
Designing and implementing registration? No.
Rolling out the FSS? No.

I love the club and they do incredible work on the creative side but come on. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Enough with the excuses, fix the problems. Then get back to us.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Well, got my hotel reserved just across the street at the Wyndham Riverfront for the comparable price of $139/night average with the option for free cancelation until June 24th. Just waiting to register now...

[Hellion42]

I was going to reply to Duffman but kneroh pretty much nailed it.

edit: I would just like to say that I really wish FunPub had some competition in the market. There is no way they'd be able to get away with half the crap they get away with if fans had another outlet for this type of product. But as it stands, it's take it or leave it, and FunPub takes full advantage. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/flat.gif

[Duffmann]

Sometimes? It seems like there's been a 50 issues outside of their control this year. What exactly are they in control of?

Mailing their newsletter? No.
Securing a hotel and setting a date for Joecon? No.
Tracking their shipments of Footloose? No.
Securing their members credit card and personal information? No.
Designing and implementing registration? No.
Rolling out the FSS? No.

I love the club and they do incredible work on the creative side but come on. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Enough with the excuses, fix the problems. Then get back to us.

agree 100% just ridiculous with the excuses

[Starfighter]

So I wonder how this bodes for their "Wednesday" time frame.....



What is the difference from today and Wednesday? They made it sound like it would be fixed by Monday last Friday. Instead, they took the weekend off and resumed yesterday. I am thinking it will be this Friday (Thursday at the earliest.) Friday will make it 34 Days until the convention actually starts.

It is interesting that the BotCon registration had went through to everyone a few weeks ago.

[Deftones1982]

Maybe the set will be postponed like the subscription :P

[T J Bang]

Group shot
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/Tim-Roper/picsay-1337709533.jpg

[Jettfire]

That's a cool design for the box, but I think a real opportunity was missed to do a full-on piece of character art. A painted piece of the OG versus the IG's could have been incredible.

[Shabang]

What is up with all the skirts? Horrowshow even has one

[07GT500 COBRA]

They're working on it.

http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/6/9/9/2/7/Henry-Jackman-G-I-Joe-Retaliation-Score_1337710504.jpg

[Black Llama]

They're working on it.

http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/6/9/9/2/7/Henry-Jackman-G-I-Joe-Retaliation-Score_1337710504.jpg

I imagine it looking more like this:

http://www.randomfunnypictures.org/funny-pictures/funny-picture-15945.jpg

[Jettfire]

I imagine it looking more like this:

http://www.randomfunnypictures.org/funny-pictures/funny-picture-15945.jpg



See you in NOLA!

[Black Llama]

See you in NOLA!

If I worked for the club, that would be my email today. Or 1:35am tomorrow (which is when I seem to get their correspondences).

[Jettfire]

What is up with all the skirts? Horrowshow even has one

They're all comfortable enough in their masculinity to challenge standard fashion conventions.

[kennywr22]

Because skirts look regal and badass.

[Duffmann]

Because skirts look regal and badass.

i agree i think the IG's look nice especially the long coat one.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Early Wednesday middle of the night wishing for registration to be today bump.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Because skirts look regal and badass.

100% agree, no one messes with a Scottsman in his kilt! much less in an IG uniform in clan Mcullen! no one cried when roddy piper wore a "skirt" now did they...pfft

[Black Swan]

Early Wednesday middle of the night wishing for registration to be today bump.

So it's "official" that registration is gonna happen tomorrow?

[Hellion42]

So it's "official" that registration is gonna happen tomorrow?

I'd say it's as about as official as any of the other projected days so far. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/sigh.gif

All I ask is that all you folks that can afford to travel to attend (or the lucky ones that live nearby http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/lol.gif) save some sets for those of us who can't make it to New Orleans. I would totally do the same if the con were in Philly/Baltimore/NY/DC/etc. :D

[ShockVal]

So it's "official" that registration is gonna happen tomorrow?

Hahahahahahahaha!
http://www.randomfunnypictures.org/funny-pictures/funny-picture-15945.jpg

Work continues at break neck speed.

[Black Swan]

Hahahahahahahaha!
http://www.randomfunnypictures.org/funny-pictures/funny-picture-15945.jpg

Work continues at break neck speed.
Eek!
Broken hearts and Broken dreams...

[Hellion42]

You guys are acting like it's unnatural to perform surgery on your Pentium Pro rig in your underwear on the living room rug.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Geez. Memorial Day weekend activities are probably going to screw this process up even more.

[Starfighter]

Geez. Memorial Day weekend activities are probably going to screw this process up even more.

Lake on Friday, BBQ on Saturday, Movies on Monday for the Club. Just watch, they will take the time off and registration will be on around (SOON) Friday the 8th of June. Just 20 Days until the Convention actually starts.

[gyrapados]

Lake on Friday, BBQ on Saturday, Movies on Monday for the Club. Just watch, they will take the time off and registration will be on around (SOON) Friday the 8th of June. Just 20 Days until the Convention actually starts.

You're actually giving them more credit than I think they deserve. I fully expect them to get registration up no sooner than 7 days before the convention starts.

[ChaplainAsst]

You're actually giving them more credit than I think they deserve. I fully expect them to get registration up no sooner than 7 days before the convention starts.

Botcon was pretty close to the convention, I believe, but it was much more forgivable with the issues with their website/hacking.

[Starfighter]

ON FACEBOOK:

Q: Are there still going to be Vehicles and the smaller figure sets of 2 and 3 figures?

A:G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Yes.

[Roshan]

ON FACEBOOK:

Q: Are there still going to be Vehicles and the smaller figure sets of 2 and 3 figures?

A:G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Yes.

Could you ask them if the sun is going to rise again tomorrow? Cause it always has in the past, but I'm just not sure if it will continue to do so.

[Starfighter]

Could you ask them if the sun is going to rise again tomorrow? Cause it always has in the past, but I'm just not sure if it will continue to do so.

I am just stating the answer to what others may want to know. Of course, I know that there will be exclusives, but many are new to the con thing. BTW, where did you hear about the movie being a no go?


EDIT-
I just read that and received the e-mail.

[Trigue]

Club just posted on Facebook that registration be live on Thursday, no exact time given only that it'll be during business hours.

[Duffmann]

Club just posted on Facebook that registration be live on Thursday, no exact time given only that it'll be during business hours.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Trigue]

E-mail from the club
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Hello all!

Just as I was going through the last test before turning on registration, I got a call from Hasbro about the movie change of date. I have already forwarded the press release to everyone as this is all we know.

So, we will have registration online tomorrow. Obviously we have to make some changes to take out the movie event. We are checking to see if there is anyway to have figures made for a parachute event to take its place. However at this time, we don't know about that either.

In the meantime to make sure your registration goes as smoothly as possible, please check your log in at the club store. If you don't know your password, use the retrieval link, then you can come back and change it for security purposes.

See you in NOLA!

Brian
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Some good news, hope they can get those paradrop figures made after all!

[Roshan]

We are checking to see if there is anyway to have figures made for a parachute event to take its place.

Brian
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Some good news, hope they can get those paradrop figures made after all!

Same here. I'd prefer the parachute drop over a movie screening I can see at any other theatre anyway.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Can we parachute bomb drop the Paramount offices instead?

[07GT500 COBRA]

Hotel Booked?...check
Tested Club Login?...check
Register tomorrow?...

[Hellion42]

Seeing as there's no time really to get unique figures made... they could always just drop thousands of recalled Retaliation Cobra Troopers.

[shawnspookcity]

Anyone going willing to grab me a bagged set of the Oktober Guard? I will be at SDCC and can help you with exclusives there.

Let me know.

[Black Llama]

Same here. I'd prefer the parachute drop over a movie screening I can see at any other theatre anyway.

I agree :D

I wonder what figures they have in the can that they can get ready. I imagine that they have something in the works, or in supply that would work. Shit, have them have a run of the PoC City Strike Destro run in IG colors..... I'll take one of those :D

[07GT500 COBRA]

I agree :D

I wonder what figures they have in the can that they can get ready. I imagine that they have something in the works, or in supply that would work. Shit, have them have a run of the PoC City Strike Destro run in IG colors..... I'll take one of those :D



We'd likely get a blizzard of POC arctic Destros.

[Roshan]

I agree :D

I wonder what figures they have in the can that they can get ready. I imagine that they have something in the works, or in supply that would work. Shit, have them have a run of the PoC City Strike Destro run in IG colors..... I'll take one of those :D




I wonder if they could get away with a City Strike Scarlett drop? Anyone who knows the legal ins and outs of character license would probably know the answer, but would CSS be possible as a parachute drop figure if they just threw them off the roof for free and never sold them at the booth? Yes Hasbro is still making a sale by making them for the club, but no sale is being made at the consumer level.

[Nirvana]

E-mail from the club
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Hello all!

Just as I was going through the last test before turning on registration, I got a call from Hasbro about the movie change of date. I have already forwarded the press release to everyone as this is all we know.

So, we will have registration online tomorrow. Obviously we have to make some changes to take out the movie event. We are checking to see if there is anyway to have figures made for a parachute event to take its place. However at this time, we don't know about that either.

In the meantime to make sure your registration goes as smoothly as possible, please check your log in at the club store. If you don't know your password, use the retrieval link, then you can come back and change it for security purposes.

See you in NOLA!

Brian
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Some good news, hope they can get those paradrop figures made after all!

Honestly, I think they should just get Hasbro to ship them some cases of Ret Cobra ParaTroopers and parachute those. Yes it won't be an "exclusive" and as cool to some, but it will be symbolically fitting of Cobra invading NOLA for JoeCon like the movie was suppose to do.

[This I Command!]

Honestly, I think they should just get Hasbro to ship them some cases of Ret Cobra ParaTroopers and parachute those. Yes it won't be an "exclusive" and as cool to some, but it will be symbolically fitting of Cobra invading NOLA for JoeCon like the movie was suppose to do.

I think it would be more symbolic if they threw them off the roof with no chute.

[RolandofGilead]

Honestly, I think they should just get Hasbro to ship them some cases of Ret Cobra ParaTroopers and parachute those. Yes it won't be an "exclusive" and as cool to some, but it will be symbolically fitting of Cobra invading NOLA for JoeCon like the movie was suppose to do.

You're usually wrong about everything, but I like this idea.

[Lody]

I think it would be more symbolic if they threw them off the roof with no chute.

I'd prefer a few Paramount excecs

But that's just me

[RolandofGilead]

Still waiting on word of Non-Attendee registration. There were comments of it being today, but I don't know why that would be.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Still waiting on word of Non-Attendee registration. There were comments of it being today, but I don't know why that would be.

It's up get there NOW!

[kneroh]

I agree :D

I wonder what figures they have in the can that they can get ready. I imagine that they have something in the works, or in supply that would work. Shit, have them have a run of the PoC City Strike Destro run in IG colors..... I'll take one of those :D



Leftover ROC Pitts. It's going to be fucking awesome!

[07GT500 COBRA]

Leftover ROC Pitts. It's going to be fucking awesome!

Especially when they parachute drop them without the chutes!

[manic mailman]

for con...would it be weird if i flew in wednesday night and flew out saturday night?

[Lody]

Yes

[manic mailman]

haha...ok nice. looks like im going wed thru monday
this whole thing is gonna be a huge chunk of change