Possible Upcoming GIJOE Retaliation GIJOE Movie Toys?

[DESTRO]

Thanks to JoeDeclassified.com and Gyre-Viper for posting up new images of what could be a Snake Eyes GIJOE Retaliation Movie Pre-View Figure?....And what could be store exclusives, and the Cobra Invasion Trooper? The usual rules apply, until Hasbro confirms what these new figure are, we can only speculate.

Possible Upcoming GIJOE Retaliation GIJOE Movie Toys? - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/possible-upcoming-gijoe-retaliation-gijoe-movie-toys-11235/)

More images here: JoeDeclassified.com • View topic - ?????????????????????? (http://www.joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=489)

[Nirvana]

Those better not end up being fake because those are two of the more asked for color schemes for both SE & SS figures. Both which are extremely high on my own list.

[titanate]

Those better not end up being fake

What he said.

[Dawg99]

Those better not end up being fake because those are two of the more asked for color schemes for both figures. Both which are extremely high on my own list.
i agree they both look killer and i would buy them

[shortysben]

uh oh...and 3...2...1... SPECULATE

[Tom-1]

UM I already HAVE customs of these so why woud Hasbro release them then? Jeez. Why don't they just try something NEW for once instead. It's really an insult to the fans.

Tom

[Arbrias]

I hope these get released at some point, I can live without the Cobra Commander and whichever one of the O13 the green figure is supposed to be, but I love the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow since they are updates of the ones I had when I was a kid. The Shipwreck reminds me of the Devils Due Comics as well, so I would certainly pick him up.

[RolandofGilead]

Is that a Version 4 Snake Eyes and Ninja Force Storm Shadow?

Do you know how long I've been asking for Modern versions of those two?

[Konigstiger]

That Shipwreck is pretty cool, if for nothing other than custom fodder.

Zap with the repainted PoC Dusty head is pretty lame, as is the half-hearted Battle Corps CC.

[Derek2783]

I don't know how to feel! I'm simultaniously super-duper excited, and underwhelmed!

The paint apps on the Storm Shadow are awful... what was a cool Asian-inspiried geometric pattern has been turned into what looks like a feather necklace. And I hate that hood! Honestly, the hooded head from the 07 Storm Shadows looked better, IMO. Snake-Eyes looks better than Stormie, but there are way better, les... um... blocky? ...choices for webgear out there.

All that being said, I do love me some ninja force, and hope that it comes to fruition, with a few changes!

[B and H Comics]

Kick arse. Those are good repaints. That trooper can be an officer a sniper or headswap and a Blackout figure.

Looks like we are getting some 90's updates finally.

[Tom-1]

as is the half-hearted Battle Corps CC.

Is half-hearted your own personal slang for pretty much spot on? XD

Tom

[Derek2783]

UM I already HAVE customs of these so why woud Hasbro release them then? Jeez. Why don't they just try something NEW for once instead. It's really an insult to the fans.

Tom

Um... what?


I've re-read this several times, and all I can come up with is that you must be going for sarcasm?

[Raw Dog]

Wow! Those things look awesome! I can't wait. When are those bad boys due? I'm super excited for them.

[CobraCrimson]

Love the 90's Ninja Force Storm Shadow and the black Cobra Officer (maybe a Cobra Sniper based on the Sideshow version?) and the Shipwreck looks tight! The CC looks like a custom Shadow Guard CC I did years ago, lol
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu252/CobraCrimson/b-1.jpg

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu252/CobraCrimson/g.jpg

[Tom-1]

Um... what?


I've re-read this several times, and all I can come up with is that you must be going for sarcasm?

Yeah, that's it. Suuure. : / Sorry for caring.

Tom

[Konigstiger]

Is half-hearted your own personal slang for pretty much spot on? XD

Tom

Perhaps, it's odd that a nearly 20 year old figure looks better though.

Hate Maybe it's my unending hate for the 25th CG torso and the lack of riding trousers on 'ol Puppy-Kicker.

[rglass2]

...I just wet myself.

[Tom-1]

Perhaps, it's odd that a nearly 20 year old figure looks better though.

Hate Maybe it's my unending hate for the 25th CG torso and the lack of riding trousers on 'ol Puppy-Kicker.

You're right about that, bro! They could've used the thighs from Rise of Cobra Destro, which are pretty much perfect. But I guess that would cost money or something. < : ( God forbid they don't slap our faces for once! >: (

Tom

[Konigstiger]

Yeah, I was thinking the RoC Destro thighs would be great for this.

[Tom-1]

Yeah, I was thinking the RoC Destro thighs would be great for this.

Great minds think a lot, my man! : )

Tom

[Xenos]

I almost wonder if they are like those figures that they made for the discount stores a few years ago that were on the really small card and didn't have any accessories.

Or maybe Hasbro has listened to us and is going to have both a movie line and a collector's line going at the same time.

[CobraCrimson]

Sad thing is, the card art on the carded 90's Snake Eyes is waaaay better than the Retaliation card art could ever hope to be! Must be a store exclusive or something, but usually those are the same type of card art generally?

[Duffmann]

I almost wonder if they are like those figures that they made for the discount stores a few years ago that were on the really small card and didn't have any accessories.

Or maybe Hasbro has listened to us and is going to have both a movie line and a collector's line going at the same time.

that would be great but i doubt it

[Money-B]

Some great figures in those pics.
I hope to see some at retail.

The real winner to me is the black cobra trooper.
They will be mass producing fan-inspired (Ratfink) pieces now.

[CobraCrimson]

Or maybe Hasbro has listened to us and is going to have both a movie line and a collector's line going at the same time.


This ^

Although, it could be a costly year

[Xenos]

As far as the figures go, the Snake Eyes is pretty good, but the head doesn't quite work for me. The Storm Shadow is also ok, but I don't like the hood, and I wish the paint job was a bit more accurate. I don't care for the CC, and the Cobra Officer is cool, but I would have actually liked him better if he were just blue like the Cobra Soldier since my Officers all look kind of out of date next to my soldiers..

[Rainbow Viper]

holy crap. loving all of those.

[ero]

Cool to see Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Hope they throw some gold paint on Storm Shadow.

If that's Grunt, I wish they would have made his uniform blue.

[Dropkick]

Holy Crap YES, Hasbro....if this is true, you've got winners here.

[Tom-1]

The real winner to me is the black cobra trooper.
They will be mass producing fan-inspired (Ratfink) pieces now.

It's probably got more in common with the Sideshow Cobra Sniper than any fan product.

Tom

[Xenos]

Cool to see Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Hope they throw some gold paint on Storm Shadow.

If that's Grunt, I wish they would have made his uniform blue.

I think it's supposed to be Short Fuse, no?

[RolandofGilead]

Cool to see Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. Hope they throw some gold paint on Storm Shadow.

If that's Grunt, I wish they would have made his uniform blue.

My best guess is that it's Short Fuse. The web gear and blonde hair say so anyways.

[Rainbow Viper]

i'm just glad they all have their articulation back!

[Jettfire]

There is not a single figure here I do not want. Each of these are incredible.

This is how I should have felt when the Retaliation figures were announced.

Thanks for sharing these.

[Gyre-Viper]

The Arashikage art suggests either film tie-in or at the very least Hasbro hoping to fuel sales with film association/marketing.

Let me be perfectly clear... I will NOT post the bar code or date stamps or anything like that. I will NOT post the back of the card but I will confirm that the green shirt is Duke (if it wasn't obvious).

I do not know exactly what these are. They came with stands which suggests NOT Retaliation. At least to an extent. Plus the word Retaliation is NOT anywhere on the packaging.

I was told they are canceled but that means absolutely nothing. So I do not want that information to sway speculation.

Posting these is somewhat out of character for me as I do not like to post things that have not been revealed by Hasbro. But after a shit ton of consideration I decided that if these made it this far, it is only a matter of time before they leak out onto ebay or based on the Meijer ambush... that they end up in stores before anyone knows what hit them.

I also considered that maybe these would not be revealed at JoeCon because while it could be argued that these are better than Retaliation some offerings, I would think Retaliation would be Hasbro's focus at con and let's be perfectly honest, a step above some Retaliation items these might be, but they are also very much like someone put 25th and POC in a 30th blender and hit the not-exactly-Retaliation puree setting.

[Steevy Maximus]

The packaging shot is VERY interesting, and raises MORE questions.

I don't know, the Storm Shadow...maybe a Retaliation figure. The rest?
I really don't "get them", by which, I don't see anything that I would immediately peg as being part of Retaliation.
Aesthetically, none "fit" with the direction Hasbro's taken the line (except Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes' heavy ninja influence)

If it was just those two, I could see Hasbro sneaking in a couple classic reworks to get us to buy the second wave of 3 packs. The rest of the figures are completely baffling:

Shipwreck using some of newest tooling available, but we haven't heard of him being in the film, and his design doesn't gel with the reactive armor elements seen in other Joe figures

"Grunt" is something I would have pegged as an old 25th kitbash (except for the Footloose helment)

Cobra Commander looks cheap and underpainted, but the head shows a complete paint job

The trooper uses the recent PoC tooling, but aesthetically creates a "mesh" with CC and Storm Shadow, indicating a "set" of some sort.

I'd chalk them up to leftover 30th figures that slipped out (ala, the first round of Resolute figures), but the card just effs up that idea:

It is utterly basic, features EXTREMELY basic design, but that design features the existing Joe logo (not used on Retaliation) with the Arashikage symbol (all over the new Retaliation stuff). Blister is a single unit, each figure seems to sport only 3-5 extra pieces (including a non-labeled stand).

I don't know, until I get a better look at the card itself, I'm actually leaning towards a small wave or product line for Family Dollar or Dollar General, kind of how the new sculpt cheapies ended up using 25th packaging the last time they were produced. Family Dollar got a unique Marvel Universe assortment last year, which featured changes to the figures.

But...Grunt? Shipwreck? 92 Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow? That's a damn odd selection for general consumer item.

[Headman]

This is the only Snake Eyes I will ever want.

[Gyre-Viper]

I think it's supposed to be Short Fuse, no?

My best guess is that it's Short Fuse. The web gear and blonde hair say so anyways.

The Arashikage art suggests either film tie-in or at the very least Hasbro hoping to fuel sales with film association/marketing.

Let me be perfectly clear... I will NOT post the bar code or date stamps or anything like that. I will NOT post the back of the card but I will confirm that the green shirt is Duke (if it wasn't obvious).

I do not know exactly what these are. They came with stands which suggests NOT Retaliation. At least to an extent. Plus the word Retaliation is NOT anywhere on the packaging.

I was told they are canceled but that means absolutely nothing. So I do not want that information to sway speculation.

Posting these is somewhat out of character for me as I do not like to post things that have not been revealed by Hasbro. But after a shit ton of consideration I decided that if these made it this far, it is only a matter of time before they leak out onto ebay or based on the Meijer ambush... that they end up in stores before anyone knows what hit them.

I also considered that maybe these would not be revealed at JoeCon because while it could be argued that these are better than Retaliation some offerings, I would think Retaliation would be Hasbro's focus at con and let's be perfectly honest, a step above some Retaliation items these might be, but they are also very much like someone put 25th and POC in a 30th blender and hit the not-exactly-Retaliation puree setting.


Duke.

[Gyre-Viper]

The packaging shot is VERY interesting, and raises MORE questions.

I don't know, the Storm Shadow...maybe a Retaliation figure. The rest?
I really don't "get them", by which, I don't see anything that I would immediately peg as being part of Retaliation.
Aesthetically, none "fit" with the direction Hasbro's taken the line (except Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes' heavy ninja influence)

If it was just those two, I could see Hasbro sneaking in a couple classic reworks to get us to buy the second wave of 3 packs. The rest of the figures are completely baffling:

Shipwreck using some of newest tooling available, but we haven't heard of him being in the film, and his design doesn't gel with the reactive armor elements seen in other Joe figures

"Grunt" is something I would have pegged as an old 25th kitbash (except for the Footloose helment)

Cobra Commander looks cheap and underpainted, but the head shows a complete paint job

The trooper uses the recent PoC tooling, but aesthetically creates a "mesh" with CC and Storm Shadow, indicating a "set" of some sort.

I'd chalk them up to leftover 30th figures that slipped out (ala, the first round of Resolute figures), but the card just effs up that idea:

It is utterly basic, features EXTREMELY basic design, but that design features the existing Joe logo (not used on Retaliation) with the Arashikage symbol (all over the new Retaliation stuff). Blister is a single unit, each figure seems to sport only 3-5 extra pieces (including a non-labeled stand).

I don't know, until I get a better look at the card itself, I'm actually leaning towards a small wave or product line for Family Dollar or Dollar General, kind of how the new sculpt cheapies ended up using 25th packaging the last time they were produced. Family Dollar got a unique Marvel Universe assortment last year, which featured changes to the figures.

But...Grunt? Shipwreck? 92 Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow? That's a damn odd selection for general consumer item.


They were all packaged the same.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I bet these are cancelled "teaser" figures that Hasbro has zero interest to release due to lack of retail support. 1) They are too awesome to be part of any retaliation toy line (cept ninja force storm shadow). That Trooper and Grunt look amazing. 2) The one Shipwreck figure has a Renegades weapon so I am sure he is axed as a result. FIgure these are more of the premature ending to the 30th Anni Line/POC line since they hold a lot of the parts/design you would find in those 2 lines.

Hope I am wrong, but Gyre has shown a ton of product that never made it to the light of day over the years. I want that Black Trooper and Gurnt figure BAD...but given everything else I want ends up cancelled...I am not holding my breathe...maybe these will end up in the Amazon 7 pack.

[Tom-1]

I can't wait to get Shortfuze!!

Tom

[Pizza Man Z]

These are cool, but I call shenanigans. It is just too cool to be real!

[Xenos]

Was there any personalization on the packaging besides the sticker on the bubble? Filecard or anything like that? Or were all the cardbacks identical?

[Bermuda Mohawk]

I will NOT post the bar code or date stamps or anything like that. I will NOT post the back of the card...

Until you do, there's no proof these are real. Like you just posted several tims in the Retaliation store find requesting people provide more proof by taking more photos, you need to step up.

[Duffmann]

These are cool, but I call shenanigans. It is just too cool to be real!

i agree, and that is a shame becuase these would be great to have.

[KINGOFNOD5]

the only thing I would have wanted different was that Shipwreck had the standard holster not the Renegades duke hole in the leg that can be fixed but still

these look great I want that Duke/Grunt for some fodder

can't wait for these.

[Gyre-Viper]

I don't know how to feel! I'm simultaniously super-duper excited, and underwhelmed!

The paint apps on the Storm Shadow are awful... what was a cool Asian-inspiried geometric pattern has been turned into what looks like a feather necklace. And I hate that hood! Honestly, the hooded head from the 07 Storm Shadows looked better, IMO. Snake-Eyes looks better than Stormie, but there are way better, les... um... blocky? ...choices for webgear out there.

All that being said, I do love me some ninja force, and hope that it comes to fruition, with a few changes!


If these are the only way we were gonna get these then they just are what they are.

When I first saw these I knew that some people would LOVE them and others would dislike them. They fall into that category of good enough for some and not enough for others. And so they're healthy for that reason. They can't harm the brand and they will all sell like hot cakes I'm sure. So someone at Hasbro had their head screwed on straight that day
and I hope they get a raise.

Are they better than say Joe Trooper or Blind Master? No.

But are they better than the obviously lacking bits from Retaliation?
FRACK YES.

And for that it's hard to hate them even if you don't like them and for
that it is probably very easy to LOVE them even if you don't really want to.

[RolandofGilead]

The Arashikage art suggests either film tie-in or at the very least Hasbro hoping to fuel sales with film association/marketing.

Let me be perfectly clear... I will NOT post the bar code or date stamps or anything like that. I will NOT post the back of the card but I will confirm that the green shirt is Duke (if it wasn't obvious).

I do not know exactly what these are. They came with stands which suggests NOT Retaliation. At least to an extent. Plus the word Retaliation is NOT anywhere on the packaging.

I was told they are canceled but that means absolutely nothing. So I do not want that information to sway speculation.

Posting these is somewhat out of character for me as I do not like to post things that have not been revealed by Hasbro. But after a shit ton of consideration I decided that if these made it this far, it is only a matter of time before they leak out onto ebay or based on the Meijer ambush... that they end up in stores before anyone knows what hit them.

I also considered that maybe these would not be revealed at JoeCon because while it could be argued that these are better than Retaliation some offerings, I would think Retaliation would be Hasbro's focus at con and let's be perfectly honest, a step above some Retaliation items these might be, but they are also very much like someone put 25th and POC in a 30th blender and hit the not-exactly-Retaliation puree setting.

After reading all this I've come to the depressing conclusion that these will not be seeing the light of day at any retail establishment. :(

[nighthawk]

I love that Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. I've been wanting that Storm Shadow ever since 1991 without any ninja spring action.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I love that Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. I've been wanting that Storm Shadow ever since 1991 without any ninja spring action.

Hey now he could have POC Tornado Kick Storm Shadow body eventually :) be careful what you mention!

[drunknmunky]

Those better not end up being fake because those are two of the more asked for color schemes for both SE & SS figures. Both which are extremely high on my own list.

Agreed 100%. My favorite version of SE was always version 4. The Ninja Force Storm Shadow is one of the best figures of the vintage line. I've wanted these figures since the 25th line came out. I really hope Hasbro makes them.

[Gyre-Viper]

Until you do, there's no proof these are real. Like you just posted several tims in the Retaliation store find requesting people provide more proof by taking more photos, you need to step up.



I don't need to do anything. No one is entitled to anything.
I am not entitled to have these and no one is entitled to see them. If my reputation doesn't speak for itself then even posting a bar code isn't going to do anything for me.



I wanted people to post proof they purchased Retaliation things at retail because in the past people have gotten things from China and tried to pass them off as retail finds. I wasn't demanding evidence I was eager for evidence. Huge difference. I wasn't accusing anyone I was trying to help the OP and I was trying to answer some questions I've had for a while. HUGE difference.

[Xenos]

It just seems weird to me that they would make up all new packaging and then cancel it. Now, I'm sure that has happened before, but in this case it just doesn't really seem to fit to me. If this was supposed to be a quick assortment to come out right before the movie, why not use the 30th Anniversary packaging that they already had? I'll bet we see these somewhere. Maybe as a store exclusive, but I am leaning towards discount outlets. It seems that Marshals/TJ Maxx/Ross always do well with Joe stuff, but maybe in the last year Hasbro hasn't been making enough to make it down to them, so they asked for a line of figures on the cheap.

[Gyre-Viper]

Was there any personalization on the packaging besides the sticker on the bubble? Filecard or anything like that? Or were all the cardbacks identical?

Identical card backs. Each figure had a name insert like the SE shown.

[Steevy Maximus]

The Arashikage art suggests either film tie-in or at the very least Hasbro hoping to fuel sales with film association/marketing.

I do not know exactly what these are. They came with stands which suggests NOT Retaliation. At least to an extent. Plus the word Retaliation is NOT anywhere on the packaging.

I was told they are canceled but that means absolutely nothing. So I do not want that information to sway speculation.

I also considered that maybe these would not be revealed at JoeCon because while it could be argued that these are better than Retaliation some offerings, I would think Retaliation would be Hasbro's focus at con and let's be perfectly honest, a step above some Retaliation items these might be, but they are also very much like someone put 25th and POC in a 30th blender and hit the not-exactly-Retaliation puree setting.

Well, if the greenshirt was labeled Duke, that makes more sense, but still...Shipwreck?

Again, with Family Dollar and Dollar General raises prices on many toy items over the years, and in prior years, getting mass retail product for mass retail prices...I still don't think such an assortment with the accessories we've seen would be entirely out of the picture.

The packaging is just "Retaliation" enough to ride any success of the film, the black Cobra figures create a unifying element (and Cobra IS sporting darker colors in the film), but is still "basic enough" that Hasbro could sell the assortment for years (like they did with the Valor vs Venom discount figures). The use of few accessories (and not too many paint apps) would indicate a low cost item (even for all the bitching about Retaliation, the average retail figure has "MORE" in the blister than these guys).

Hasbro used the original Transformers Universe packaging for almost 4 years after the line left retail. They used the Classic styled for this market from 2007 until 2010. And the venue is still seeing old "Generations" styled stuff. And with Family Dollar willing to stock Marvel Universe at $8, and Dark of the Moon for $13, I don't see it as entirely improbable that they might get a new batch of Joes they could sell for $6-8

[Colder Soldier]

I will buy MANY of those.

My new toy obsessions...

[Cobraoner]

UM I already HAVE customs of these so why woud Hasbro release them then? Jeez. Why don't they just try something NEW for once instead. It's really an insult to the fans.

Tom

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YpKgmE2pNGw/Sm5LinrW0BI/AAAAAAAAASE/srrN40CUxZ4/s400/Stirring+the+Pot.jpg

[ero]

If that's Grunt, I wish they would have made his uniform blue.

I think it's supposed to be Short Fuse, no?

My best guess is that it's Short Fuse. The web gear and blonde hair say so anyways.

Beats me. I can't tell them )13 guys apart. :D

I will confirm that the green shirt is Duke (if it wasn't obvious).

Ha! Guess it wasn't. :)

[Nirvana]

...

[lowlight27]

I'm Calling it!
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[nightfall]

Love to see these hit retail in some way. Really digging on SE and the invasion trooper. Leave the silver sigil and repaint the IT blue and we have an officer. Love that card art for SE. That is just sick!!

[Nirvana]

I could see the Family Dollar / Big Lots offering with them, the card design is simple enough to fit that look. The thing about the more recent MU figures only at FD is that they feature less articulation. These still have the articulation, just limited on accessories. I could fucking live with it to grab some for $5 or so at FD/BL. Cobra Troop builder, two ninjas, and the Black CC that Alyosha was also making for a con (UnCon, IIRC) along with the dog being kicked. Duke looked good and we could use more of that body as a generic troop if nothing else. I like that DDP Shippy got made, too.

Uncancel and sell the damn things, Hasbro.

[ultramax]

these are BITCHIN'

but i doubt we will ever see these..... hasbro has Fracked up the joe line so many times it unbearable to get your hopes up

[Xenos]

Identical card backs. Each figure had a name insert like the SE shown.

Cool, thanks. What was on the card back? Cross sell pictures of the other figures? A description of GI Joe? Nothing? If it was a cross sell, where there any other figures that you didn't get?

[sci-find]

I doubt these highly, but I´ll never doubt Gyre-viper.

[ero]

Well, if the greenshirt was labeled Duke, that makes more sense, but still...Shipwreck?

Again, with Family Dollar and Dollar General raises prices on many toy items over the years, and in prior years, getting mass retail product for mass retail prices...I still don't think such an assortment with the accessories we've seen would be entirely out of the picture.

The packaging is just "Retaliation" enough to ride any success of the film, the black Cobra figures create a unifying element (and Cobra IS sporting darker colors in the film), but is still "basic enough" that Hasbro could sell the assortment for years (like they did with the Valor vs Venom discount figures). The use of few accessories (and not too many paint apps) would indicate a low cost item (even for all the bitching about Retaliation, the average retail figure has "MORE" in the blister than these guys).

Hasbro used the original Transformers Universe packaging for almost 4 years after the line left retail. They used the Classic styled for this market from 2007 until 2010. And the venue is still seeing old "Generations" styled stuff. And with Family Dollar willing to stock Marvel Universe at $8, and Dark of the Moon for $13, I don't see it as entirely improbable that they might get a new batch of Joes they could sell for $6-8

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Hasbro started stocking at places like this as an answer to all of us cheapskate Ross hoarders? There's your adult collector market!

[Mermaniel]

These are pretty goddamn amazing. Here's hoping.

[ultramax]

it would be awesome if they just release these at ross and call it a day, oh wait....

[cobracobra]

These are so so exciting for me. I wonder why they are holding back on the POC sculpts and parts. Its frustrating to see these sculpts that have been eclipsed twice over now.
Very excited about the DD Ship Wreck and Storm Shadow to be flat out honest.

[ultramax]

after futher reviewing on gyre's site, i gotta say its a custom cause they look TOO SWEET to be true, hasbro woulds put some crappy paint scheme and screw up some detail that us nerds would cry about... these look WAY TOO AWESOME!!!!!!!

[Gyre-Viper]

Cool, thanks. What was on the card back? Cross sell pictures of the other figures? A description of GI Joe? Nothing? If it was a cross sell, where there any other figures that you didn't get?

Here I cropped out anything specific assortment/identification-wise

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified1/cardbackks.jpg






I doubt these highly, but I´ll never doubt Gyre-viper.


Thank you. You'd think by now I'd have a little more clout around here.

[Scotty97]

Until you do, there's no proof these are real. Like you just posted several tims in the Retaliation store find requesting people provide more proof by taking more photos, you need to step up.

Shut the front door! If he posts barcodes or date stamps it could ruin something Hasbro's working on, maybe even something they have planned as a gift to collectors in the near future. If you follow the podcasts or Joedeclassified, you'd see that there are shittons of items that never get to this stage or past this stage, and much of that info comes from having a good working relationship with Hasbro's past and present employees. Why take a chance and ruin all the great tidbits of what could've been just so people can have a barcode number that won't actually DO anything anyway. They're not going to be in any system anywhere.

[ultramax]

wowooweeeeee thanks GYRE

[ero]

Here I cropped out anything specific assortment/identification-wise

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified1/cardbackks.jpg



Oh yeah, these are definitely Big Lots/Family Dollar/What have you. Good thinking Hasbro!

Figure + accessory + stand = $6

Perfection.

Thank you. You'd think by now I'd have a little more clout around here.

You have tons, no?

[Tracker]

like the greenshirt and coba trooper

[Xenos]

Here I cropped out anything specific assortment/identification-wise


Thanks so much Gyre. That answered all my questions. This is an awesome find, thanks you so much for sharing.

[This I Command!]

I totally trust in the authenticity of the items Gyre has shared over the years, but the skeptic in me just can't help but feel like this is too good to be true.

I DESPERATELY hope that Snake Eyes is authentic and finds it's way to retail somehow. I want to own that figure sooooo bad.

Also, add me to the list who think this is gonna show up at Family Dollar/Dollar General/Big Lots. Yeah, the character selection is odd, but everything else about this seems like a perfect fit for their exclusive items (other than the inclusion of stands).

[Scotty97]

Oh, and I wonder why Shipwreck's neck is blue. Save on a paint app to keep the price point low? And as for the Renegades gun he comes with, for once it seems to fit. It resembles an underwater gun, so I wouldn't use that as a reason to doubt the figure's possible release.

[Pizza Man Z]

Identical card backs. Each figure had a name insert like the SE shown.

This makes me real sad that you say these are cancelled. They are pretty freaking cool and I would dump 50 to 60 bucks to pick up the set. Really like the Cobra Trooper, SE and SS. Shipwreck is okay but really looks like a Renegades version. I hope Hasbro sees this and thinks, maybe we should put them out as a Dollar store exclusive (LIKE FAMILY DOLLAR OR DOLLAR General) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

[ero]

Oh, and I wonder why Shipwreck's neck is blue. Save on a paint app to keep the price point low?

I'm sure that's it. Just another telltale hint that it's for a discount place.

And as for the Renegades gun he comes with, for once it seems to fit. It resembles an underwater gun, so I wouldn't use that as a reason to doubt the figure's possible release.

And maybe it was part of that mold, so it's an easy accessory to include? I dunno.

Back in the day when we were finding all of that 25th stuff at Ross and Marshalls, I fantasized that it was Hasbro quietly producing added quantities just to pump out some cheap product for quick sales. This would be the next best thing!

[Troops of Doom]

I want that black Cobra Officer! Why they haven't given us Cobra Troopers/Officers in various repaints already is surprising.

The other figures are a pass.

[TheRealDubya]

Those are shit-hot repaints, man. I'd buy every one but the CC. Rad.

[Gyre-Viper]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Hasbro started stocking at places like this as an answer to all of us cheapskate Ross hoarders? There's your adult collector market!



THIS IS SOMETHING HASBRO COULD DO REALLLLY EASILY and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.


Shut the front door! If he posts barcodes or date stamps it could ruin something Hasbro's working on, maybe even something they have planned as a gift to collectors in the near future. If you follow the podcasts or Joedeclassified, you'd see that there are shittons of items that never get to this stage or past this stage, and much of that info comes from having a good working relationship with Hasbro's past and present employees. Why take a chance and ruin all the great tidbits of what could've been just so people can have a barcode number that won't actually DO anything anyway. They're not going to be in any system anywhere.


I already scanned the bar codes and got nothin. But that doesn't mean that someone with more knowledge or networking can't do it and so I'm protecting those aspects. My find, my pictures, anyone that has a problem with it doesn't have to look at the pics.

As I said before, I am not entitled to have these. Even if I had any idea what these were I wouldn't say anything. I'm stealing enough thunder by posting pics of the figures. I figure the least I can do is protect the more
technical information. Not only for the reasons you've stated Scotty97,
but also as a "favor" to Hasbro... a "compromise" on my part for going as far as posting pictures of unrevealed product as is.

I do what I do for VERY specific reasons. NONE of which would ever be to harm the brand in any way shape or form. Most people know that about me.

Like I said... it seems like if these are this far along... they're bound to show up either overseas or in stores sooner than later. So if I can do it
like I do everything else, I'm going to. Not to be "first" but to be consistent.

[CG82]

The CC need more paint on the details, more silver highlights around piping and eagle needs a painting.

I like the black colored Cobra trooper, wish they'd release a proper Crimson Resolute Guard, that pink one was horrible.

[Xenos]

If these do end up being discount store exclusives, I would buy a ton of that Duke to use as green shirts. I'd probably get a few of the Officers, but I would definitely buy more if they were blue. If they were blue I'd probably get 30+ of them. The rest I would buy one of each, even at regular store prices.

[nightfall]

Thanks for the post Gyre. This is really something for all us old schoolers to dream about. This may turn out to be post Retaliation stuff and I'm liking it. Thank you and keep up the good work buddy.

[Scotty97]

As I said before, I am not entitled to have these.

can I be entitled to have them? j/k :-P

[ero]

THIS IS SOMETHING HASBRO COULD DO REALLLLY EASILY and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

So much potential. And just in fan-demanded repaints alone, there's a lot they could do with old molds. Sunbow repaints of HoH Flint, carded versions of hard-to-find guys like Alpine ... all stuff that is just otherwise waisting away. Love it.

[CrimsonGuard101]

THIS IS SOMETHING HASBRO COULD DO REALLLLY EASILY and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.





I already scanned the bar codes and got nothin. But that doesn't mean that someone with more knowledge or networking can't do it and so I'm protecting those aspects. My find, my pictures, anyone that has a problem with it doesn't have to look at the pics.

As I said before, I am not entitled to have these. Even if I had any idea what these were I wouldn't say anything. I'm stealing enough thunder by posting pics of the figures. I figure the least I can do is protect the more
technical information. Not only for the reasons you've stated Scotty97,
but also as a "favor" to Hasbro... a "compromise" on my part for going as far as posting pictures of unrevealed product as is.

I do what I do for VERY specific reasons. NONE of which would ever be to harm the brand in any way shape or form. Most people know that about me.

Like I said... it seems like if these are this far along... they're bound to show up either overseas or in stores sooner than later. So if I can do it
like I do everything else, I'm going to. Not to be "first" but to be consistent.

Hah you just gave me an idea......maybe this is what Eruo Zone is going to get since Retaliation isnt coming thier way...a kinda "hey were sorry but here ya go" gesture...The prices for these just jumped 20 rubles....

[RolandofGilead]

Here I cropped out anything specific assortment/identification-wise

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified1/cardbackks.jpg









Thank you. You'd think by now I'd have a little more clout around here.

I believed you from the start.

These are awesome and I think a discount store Joe set is simply cool. Especially when you consider that apart from SE SS and CC, the other three figures could totally sell as troop builders.

[revsears]

I am drooling, these repaints I would love to see.
I may have customs of some of these, but that Ninja Force SS blows my custom out of the water and at the very least these too could be excellent costume fodder. i'll admit I would like the green shirt in the ultimate Se mold, But that is classic, with no Duke arms and a good helmet and DDP shipwreck getting the body is slightly higher on my list. My custom is slightly darker, but I'd buy that one out of pure support, because I love the design and that fig should have been out a long time ago.

[Gyre-Viper]

This makes me real sad that you say these are cancelled. They are pretty freaking cool and I would dump 50 to 60 bucks to pick up the set. Really like the Cobra Trooper, SE and SS. Shipwreck is okay but really looks like a Renegades version. I hope Hasbro sees this and thinks, maybe we should put them out as a Dollar store exclusive (LIKE FAMILY DOLLAR OR DOLLAR General) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!





The only reason I post canceled stuff is in hopes of getting some push behind it through the community in hopes of then getting stuff UN-canceled.

I think some people at Hasbro underestimate desire and I think sometimes they overestimate. So if I can put things out there to give them a better idea of what you guys want then I will. I fucking love
this brand. And I love the people who work on the brand. So I'm
just a cheerleader in goggles, really.

That being said ... do NOT take the "canceled" thing too seriously.
Or as fact. Trust me. Every "canceled" thing comes with its story and baggage. It is never something to take to heart until 4 years have passed and even then it doesn't mean the Club won't do it etc.

[Xenos]

So much potential. And just in fan-demanded repaints alone, there's a lot they could do with old molds. Sunbow repaints of HoH Flint, carded versions of hard-to-find guys like Alpine ... all stuff that is just otherwise waisting away. Love it.

I've thought this for a long time. It seems to me if they put out a case that had some highly demanded army builders like Cobra Soldier, Viper, and BATs and sold them for $5 that they would never sit for long at a store.

[Scotty97]

Hah you just gave me an idea......maybe this is what Eruo Zone is going to get since Retaliation isnt coming thier way...a kinda "hey were sorry but here ya go" gesture...The prices for these just jumped 20 rubles....

NooooooOOOooOOOoooOooooo! My friends just moved back from Europe, lol.

[Dawg99]

thanx for sharing Gyre
seeing the back of the card i want all those figures

[wertdog91]

Dude, that trooper looks bad ass. Finally I dont have to paint mine black

[MeLikeJinx]

Hmmm... all I would want is SE, but only because I never had a SE v4 before, but that fig looks kinda fugly IMHO.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Hmmm... all I would want is SE, but only because I never had a SE v4 before, but that fig looks kinda fugly IMHO.

He needs neon orange weapons/goggles to be more accurate...

[drunknmunky]

I'm starting to think that Gyre works for Hasbro. Hasbro gives him product and he ” pretends ” that he found it. In reality he's part of the R and D team for Hasbro, his goal is to simply gauge interest in future products. He shows off something and depending on how it goes Hasbro either releases it or cans it. Gyre says ” maybe these were supposed to be exclusives to Dollar General or something.” Then we all clamor about how great that would be and how we would buy them like crazy. Then tomorrow in the Hasbro morning meeting Gyre is like ” yeah they totally would buy them from the Dollar Store.” That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Gyre-Viper]

What started out as 120 images ended up as like 90. I had a lot of fun taking pics of these because they felt a lot like the stuff I grew up with, obviously.

Makes sure you check out all 90 whatever pics though so you don't miss anything.

[Steevy Maximus]

Seeing the cardback DOES jive with the "discount store" idea

But as is? I would buy ALL of them, right now, without hesitation (well, the Cobra Commander maybe...).
Duke might as well be a nice Grunt, SE and SS are fan demanded versions, the Trooper is pretty spiffy, and I LOVE the DDP Shipwreck.

For the love of god Hasbro, you are putting out so much crap for Retaliation, please just send the discount stores that little bit of Joe love for us?

[RolandofGilead]

Too bad we have no Dollar General stores here.

[Gyre-Viper]

I'm starting to think that Gyre works for Hasbro. Hasbro gives him product and he ” pretends ” to find that he found it. In reality he's part of the R and D team for Hasbro, his goal is to simply gauge interest in future products. He shows off something and depending on how it goes Hasbro either releases it or cans it. Gyre says ” maybe these were supposed to be exclusives to Dollar General or something.” Then we all clamor about how great that would be and how we would buy them like crazy. Then tomorrow in the Hasbro morning meeting Gyre is like ” yeah they totally would buy them from the Dollar Store.” That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


HAHHAHAHAH I wish. I've been accused of working for Hasbro or working with someone at Hasbro or knowing people at Hasbro.

I'm the last person Hasbro should listen to. My ideas suck.

I would have sacrificed Law and Order and Lifeline to get 30th versions
of Updraft and Alley-Viper v2. I'd destroy the brand with my ideas. HAHAHHA.

[ero]

Seeing the cardback DOES jive with the "discount store" idea

Just as a visual reference, from our sister site, the Dollar Store RTS Legends:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27289470d1333680605-rts-legends-dollar-general-generic-packaging-dscn34111.jpg

[Dawg99]

maybe they will be cdn exclusives

[Xenos]

Just as a visual reference, from our sister site, the Dollar Store RTS Legends:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-news-rumors/27289470d1333680605-rts-legends-dollar-general-generic-packaging-dscn34111.jpg

So are those only sold at discount retailers? If so, which ones? I don't pay any attention to TF stuff.

That packaging looks like it is essentially the same thing as this Joe packaging though. Not a lot of graphics, and a little insert to tell you who you are getting.

[ero]

So are those only sold at discount retailers? If so, which ones? I don't pay any attention to TF stuff.

I dunno, these were news to me. I just saw them at tfw2005. But I have seen other Legends-sized figures at places like that and Big Lots, though I didn't pay attention to the packaging at the time.

[CrimsonGuard101]

HAHHAHAHAH I wish. I've been accused of working for Hasbro or working with someone at Hasbro or knowing people at Hasbro.

I'm the last person Hasbro should listen to. My ideas suck.

I would have sacrificed Law and Order and Lifeline to get 30th versions
of Updraft and Alley-Viper v2. I'd destroy the brand with my ideas. HAHAHHA.

Your one of those CHina factory dumpster divers admitt it...haha

I would have agreed with you 100% on Lifeline and Law and Order...we could have gotten those other 2 figures you mentioned or any of these instead (especially the Black Trooper Officer) and I would have spent another $1,000 or so troop building vs. the $84 i spent with the single case of Law and Lifeline lol...the law we got wasnt so great...order was cool..but law feels...blech

[CrimsonGuard101]

So are those only sold at discount retailers? If so, which ones? I don't pay any attention to TF stuff.

That packaging looks like it is essentially the same thing as this Joe packaging though. Not a lot of graphics, and a little insert to tell you who you are getting.

I have seen these at various grocery stores like Kroger and Minyard so I dont think they are e4xclusive to any dollar store.

[CVdelgado]

i dont like this one bit. none of it. at all...

[Shipshape1983]

I want!!! holy shit, if these are released, I would buy them!

I want that Shipwreck!

[Superjoe74]

Holy S! I get excited to think I might be seeing a preview of new figures.

My real source of confusion and curiousity is why the SDCC 2012 Devastator BAT and FSS Nano BAT are in the pictures. What does this suggest?

Could the Duke, SE, SS, CC, C Trooper and Shippy be part of an exclusive line?

[ero]

My real source of confusion and curiousity is why the SDCC 2012 Devastator BAT and FSS Nana BAT are in the pictures. What does this suggest?

That gyre likes neon.

[Xenos]

Holy S! I get excited to think I might be seeing a preview of new figures.

My real source of confusion and curiousity is why the SDCC 2012 Devastator BAT and FSS Nana BAT are in the pictures. What does this suggest?

Could the Duke, SE, SS, CC, C Trooper and Shippy be part of an exclusive line?

I think those were just the other figures Gyre had on hand.

[alaroc]

Just noticed that the card art has SS with a Resolute SS hood but the actual figure sports a white redeco of Resolute Zartan's hood. Pretty cool to get Zartan's hood in white for use on SS- but I still like how the Resolute SS hood looks on SS more.

And that Duke head is POC Dusty, right?

I'd buy all these in an instant. Especially love the Devil's Due Shipwreck and the Ninja Force SS- 2 of my favorite looks for both characters...

[Superjoe74]

Did I say holy s? Cause I meant it. lol

[Veedubguy83]

Wow, I will take the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow please... I love it!

[Lody]

Kneroh must be LOVING those BATS

Weird

One of the most despised versions of Snake Eyes

What a tribute

[orezona]

Ah fRACK man, why do you have to tease us like this, Gyre?

I need more toys to lust after like I need to sit on a cholla cactus.
(hint: don't sit on cholla cacti... you'll be bummed)

I NEVER liked that version of SE, but for some reason... I want him. And SS. And CC, and Duke... what the hell, man!?!

This is upsetting. I'm so torn over these figures now.

One thing I DO know, if I get my hands on that CC I'm going to have to find a 1:18th scale puppy for him to kick.

You know what else?

I actually REALLY like that packaging design. It just... works.

BTW: Thanks for posting these, Gyre!

[Steevy Maximus]

I have seen these at various grocery stores like Kroger and Minyard so I dont think they are e4xclusive to any dollar store.

I dunno, these were news to me. I just saw them at tfw2005. But I have seen other Legends-sized figures at places like that and Big Lots, though I didn't pay attention to the packaging at the time.

Hasbro has been producing an assortment of Legends sized figures for "alternative venues" (like groccery stores, discounters, etc) since they were introduced in 2005 (in fact, the size class itself was originally aimed at those markets and international markets).

The last batch they did was in late 2007 sporting Classics packaging (Cybertron Optimus PRime, Cybertron Hot Shot, Cybertron Soundwave, Classics Leo Prime), and my local Dollar General has carried them perennially every since.

With GI Joe, the last batch of discount figures they produced was the 2008 "neo-25th" set which featured newsculpt (and a RAH) figures on packaging sytled after the concurrent 25th line, and as far as I know, haven't made a new batch since (unless you count the redeco Combat Heroes produced in 2009).
Given how large that market seems to be...I'm not sure I'd be willing to call this assortment "cancelled" unless we see a TON of Retaliation or leftover retail product hit those places in the coming months.

[RolandofGilead]

Gyre, why don't you use your divine influence and get these made for us?

[Ford]

Eh, they're Happy Meal versions that people would be nonstop bitching about if they were another wave of 30th releases.

The Storm Shadow might be the single worst figure of the last five years.

I'd buy the Shipwreck...but for no more than $5.

The Retaliation stuff is way better.

[Gyre-Viper]

Holy S! I get excited to think I might be seeing a preview of new figures.

My real source of confusion and curiousity is why the SDCC 2012 Devastator BAT and FSS Nano BAT are in the pictures. What does this suggest?

Could the Duke, SE, SS, CC, C Trooper and Shippy be part of an exclusive line?

That gyre likes neon.

I think those were just the other figures Gyre had on hand.


What ero and Xenos said. Plus I just like to tease. But yeah basically
I got the BAT and wanted to post pics of SE and SS fighting side by side and was like... eh...

and I LOVE neon.




But also to show that you can upstage something unreleased with something else unreleased.

[eddy-arashikage]

Hi guys being a brit and probably more noobish then I care to admit.

Was wondering where these figures materialise from? Whoever got hold of these figures, would they not have a bit more insight as to what they are about?

Would be nice if I could get a straight answer instead of the usual trolls giving their pointless answers!

Thanks in advance!

[MightyMegs]

I hope these make it out, because they are a lot more exciting than most of the movie line. And that black Cobra Trooper... that guy is like really good sex.

[Magick]

Holy hell!! I want all of those figures.. Cobra Officers!! I will have a few thanks.. I hope these don't end up being a big joke.


And Gyre.. I want several of those SDCC BATs.. Like 5...Can you get more?

[Cobra Terrorist]

Must....have....that...Cobra....Trooper!

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

These figures are all awesome, especially the Cobra Invasion Trooper! Much more inspiring than the Retaliation stuff we've seen so far.

[Dawg99]

want all of them i hope these see the light of day

[Faceless]

Please Hasbro, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE release these! I'll buy every last one, and multiples!

[Steevy Maximus]

Hi guys being a brit and probably more noobish then I care to admit.

Was wondering where these figures materialise from? Whoever got hold of these figures, would they not have a bit more insight as to what they are about?

Would be nice if I could get a straight answer instead of the usual trolls giving their pointless answers!

Thanks in advance!

Gyre already answered:
He got them from China, and won't elaborate on them beyond he was told they were cancelled.

As stated, these probably started life as a discount figure assortment (for stores like Dollar General and Big Lots, and probably would have popped up at other stores around Christmas), if cancelled, it means there weren't enough interested parties for Hasbro to justify their production.

[ndb]

Wow, I might actually put up a few of those if released. Namely Shipwreck and Snake Eyes.

[SNAKE_EYES1975]

HOLY SHIT

Best damn looking Joe figures I have seen since the end of the 30th/POC run.

That cobra trooper will be one hard sonofabitch to find if everyone likes it as much as me... I love all of those

[This I Command!]

Hi guys being a brit and probably more noobish then I care to admit.

Was wondering where these figures materialise from? Whoever got hold of these figures, would they not have a bit more insight as to what they are about?

Would be nice if I could get a straight answer instead of the usual trolls giving their pointless answers!

Thanks in advance!

I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but generally when an action figure is produced it goes through MANY different stages, initial design, packaging art, mold tests, paint tests, packaging tests, etc. etc. Meaning that along the way several different people will have all contributed to some different facet of the product. The person who eventually leaks the items out may not really know much (if anything) about that particular toy, as they may work at an assembly line in a factory in china, or they may work at a shipping company, or any other job that is far removed from the people in the know about the product's specifics. So while it's interesting to see items like this, we are often times in the dark until some kind of official word is established.

[tkprime]

First off my hat's off to you for sharing these images with us GYRE-VIPER, we can all speculate when or if we're getting these, but the fact remains we wouldn't have known about them if you wouldn't have posted them, for that you have both my thanks and my respect!

[drunknmunky]

Gyre in his morning meeting with Hasbro,
” no seriously, they love these things. We've got to release these things. They'll fly off the shelves!”
Hasbro exec-
”Dammit Gyre, those goggles are blurring your vision. I don't know where you're getting your info but collectors have made it clear that they don't want anymore Snake Eyes, Storm Shadows and Duke figures. New go show off some more Retaliation figures to get the people excited!”

[nighthawk]

Hope these show up eventually. Maybe in Canada? ;)

[Dawg99]

Hope these show up eventually. Maybe in Canada? ;)
thats what i was thinking land of misfit toys

[Raginspoon]

First off thank you gyre-viper for posting these. On my end it is much appreciated.

Second. These do scream dollar general or family dollar. I am sure some of you do not remember. During the VvV days dollar general and family dollar got in waves of figures exclusive to them. They were all repaints of existing figures though. They all came with one or two accessories. These seem to be on the same par with those.

They also got in vehicles that could only be found there as well.

[Super Beast]

I want these more then I would like to continue living.

[WildWill]

Oh wow, I'm down for a few of those, especially a GRUNT that I can buy at retail instead of eBay

'Cause I'm still trying to put together the original 12

[Steel Brigade]

Well aren't those all kinds of Awesome, I'd buy every one! Thanks Gyre!! SEE)
I will have to update the list...

[RolandofGilead]

I'd buy all of 'em, then I'd go back and get five more of those black Cobra Troopers, and maybe even some extra Dukes and Shipwreck figures as troop builders.

[Xenos]

I'd buy all of 'em, then I'd go back and get five more of those black Cobra Troopers, and maybe even some extra Dukes and Shipwreck figures as troop builders.

The Duke is actually the one I'm most interested in as an army builder. The Cobra Officer looks really cool, but I wouldn't need more then a few, maybe five. The Duke though, I would want a ton of those for dio filler.

I think the Shipwreck is my favorite of all these though.

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

I totally trust in the authenticity of the items Gyre has shared over the years, but the skeptic in me just can't help but feel like this is too good to be true.

I DESPERATELY hope that Snake Eyes is authentic and finds it's way to retail somehow. I want to own that figure sooooo bad.

Also, add me to the list who think this is gonna show up at Family Dollar/Dollar General/Big Lots. Yeah, the character selection is odd, but everything else about this seems like a perfect fit for their exclusive items (other than the inclusion of stands).

Ditto this^ I think if God Himself posted on the tank there'd still be doubters. I doubt there's another collector alive more knowledgable about cancelled and preproduction items than Gyre.

I also think these are going to be dollar store items. I know that the first few waves of the new sculpt figures that had accessories were really good sellers in my area and in the San Antonio area. They didn't become peg warmers until Hasbro went on the cheap and removed all the accessories and bumped the price from 2$ to 3.50$.

[RolandofGilead]

You could really make use of the Shipwreck as a troop builder too if you had a USS Flagg to fill. It would just be a matter of lots of headswaps.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Hasbro really isn't the audience we need to be directing/asking for these from. Retail is.

I am suprised BBTS or other etailers havent snatched up this concept. BBTS would have a hard time keeping these stocked lol...I really dont wanna have to run to every dollar general and general dollar store accross texas...they hardly stock more then 1-2 figures lol...would be worse then my wave 10 runs to HEB in Austin in 2008...

I think we are going to have to accept the fact that these were some mock up figures and packaging that will never see the light of day. Maybe it was another plan the Club was going to shoot for if the Sub service didn;t make it through...like a club exclusive figure offering, low budget on the paint/accessoires and then offer them through the clubs new store.

Or the Joe line that was going to continue after the 30th anni if Retaliation was never set into stone as a movie with a new subsequent movie line. Could be a reason why they needed to cut so many corners with the retaliation toys to save on R&D these later 30th anni figures were going to have to repurpose the renegades/30th/POC unused molds/weapon molds etc into Retalition and under utilized figure expesnes incurred as a result of the rapid ending of the 30th. Liek some of those 30 for 30 figures they never released. I feel that is the case due to the 25th stands with the CG and Night Viper in wave 5 of retaliation they showed at the show...These would fit in right along with those figures since they bekon ARAH as updated POC versions of thier ARAH counterparts more then as Retaliation figures.

[DESTRO]

My best guess would be GIJOE Retaliation Movie Pre-View Figures. With the cost of plastic-production and a new Movie Line heading to retail why would Hasbro compete with their own line with a cheaper product. The days of any Hasbro GIJOE figure for under $7.00 are long gone. The packaging fits in like a Retaliation lead in. Speculation....

[Xenos]

My best guess would be GIJOE Retaliation Movie Pre-View Figures. With the cost of plastic-production and a new Movie Line heading to retail why would Hasbro compete with their own line with a cheaper product. The packaging fits in like a Retaliation lead in. Speculation....

The thing about this that just doesn't work for me, is (a) why not just use the existing 30th Anniversary packaging and (b) if it was a Retaliation lead-in, why not say something about Retaliation on the package?

I really don't think these have anything to do with the movie.

[Fast_Draw]

Thanks for sharing. I would buy each one of those.

That Shipwreck looks like the Resolute Shipwreck to me.

[DESTRO]

The thing about this that just doesn't work for me, is (a) why not just use the existing 30th Anniversary packaging and (b) if it was a Retaliation lead-in, why not say something about Retaliation on the package?

I really don't think these have anything to do with the movie.

The card art fits in 100% to the Retaliation Ninja theme and we can't see the full card.... Not saying I know any better then you, we may or may not get to find out.

[Xenos]

We can't see the full card....

Gyre said in his first post that the word Retaliation doesn't show up anywhere on the packaging though.

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

The fact that these made it to a packaged level makes it more hopeful to me that they might eventually see release.

[DESTRO]

Gyre said in his first post that the word Retaliation doesn't show up anywhere on the packaging though.


That's true, but it still all fits into a Lead-In not an actual Movie Toy.

[Xenos]

The card art fits in 100% to the Retaliation Ninja theme and we can't see the full card.... Not saying I know any better then you, we may or may not get to find out.

I think that there is a chance that these were meant to be a kind of collector's line that would have (will?) run concurrently with the Retaliation figures, so having similar themes could make sense, even if they weren't branded as Retaliation toys. In other words, keep it similar enough so that people recognize it, but not so similar that they would have to pay royalties to Paramount.

[Dawg99]

That's true, but it still all fits into a Lead-In not an actual Movie Toy.
That sounds about right to me

[Mainframe]

Thanks for posting, just when you think you have your Joe purchases planned, bam......a man in goggles thwarts your day.

[skinny]

It was brought up earlier that it is always said collectors dont want more Duke CC SS and SE.
and perhaps they don't, they don't want more of the same guy in white or the same guy in black every wave, but these versions are a lot different than those. Except CC.

When I first saw the CC and Shadow Guard, I was thinking con set enemies for October Guard until I saw these were single carded.

never liked the DDP uniforms, pass on Shipwreck, he just looks like someone on a shrimp boat.

I do like the SE and SS, and for DIC fans it would be a nice nod to them.

[Jay West]

Uh...if it is a lead in shouldn't it be on the shelves now or at least up for pre-order? Retaliation comes out in earnest next month (ignoring the Meijer anomaly)?

[Jay West]

Uh...if it is a lead in shouldn't it be on the shelves now or at least up for pre-order? Retaliation comes out in earnest next month (ignoring the Meijer anomaly)?

BTW love those figures. Easy Crimson Guard Shadow Guards to be made from that CC.

[Xenos]

Uh...if it is a lead in shouldn't it be on the shelves now or at least up for pre-order? Retaliation comes out in earnest next month (ignoring the Meijer anomaly)?

Well, I think the idea is that if it were a lead in, then it was canceled.

This does kind of bring up the question though, if it were meant to be a lead in, when would it have come out? There's a pretty small window between 30th wave 4 and the start of Retaliation. Though, that could have been why it was canceled.

[NAJA EMPIRE]

it really seems like the figures that Hasbro cancels and never releases are the best figures out there. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see these figures again. but the cobra commander, cobra trooper, storm shadow are outstanding

[turner]

Dang! I'm blown away surprised! I've been planning three of those as customs! It's almost like Hasbro got some sense all of a sudden (and it's been a loooong time with a few exceptions like scifi/lifeline/airtight/lowlight).

Even the packaging (while not nearly as cool as vintage/25th) is big improvement.

[This I Command!]

Uh...if it is a lead in shouldn't it be on the shelves now or at least up for pre-order? Retaliation comes out in earnest next month (ignoring the Meijer anomaly)?

My thoughts exactly, I really seriously doubt this is a lead-in per se, I think it's just meant to posses enough brand familiarity to Retaliation that it can run concurrently at discount retail, but still not feel so attached to the movie that it would be viewed as dated product once the movie line has run it's course. It could still technically show up before the movie line hits, but even if that happens I don't think it was ever expressly intended to be a lead-in.

On a side note, whatever the intention of these figures, Hasbro really needs to learn how to better communicate with their audience. Even if they are just intended as discount figures, I still think it would be wise of Hasbro to inform collector's to be on the lookout for them. It's only more money for them in the long run.

[Clobbertron]

I'm way more excited now. Can't wait to see ANY new Joes on the shelves.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Well, I think the idea is that if it were a lead in, then it was canceled.

This does kind of bring up the question though, if it were meant to be a lead in, when would it have come out? There's a pretty small window between 30th wave 4 and the start of Retaliation. Though, that could have been why it was canceled.

There was plenty of time, From January on till the end of may, thats 5 friggen months. Its retails fault that the 30th Anni pewter out over the last few months. Again retail is the reason these failed..not Hasbro's fault at all...there was no interest in them, probabley cause they would have demanded a smaller price point and Walmart and Target have to compete with Walgreens and CVS now with joes lol...at $15.99 a figure...so a $5.99 stripped down Joe line was just not fasicnating enough for the Walmart Suits...

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

Uh...if it is a lead in shouldn't it be on the shelves now or at least up for pre-order? Retaliation comes out in earnest next month (ignoring the Meijer anomaly)?

BTW love those figures. Easy Crimson Guard Shadow Guards to be made from that CC.

Gyre did say this was a heads up, and who knows, these might be found at Meijer's or somewhere tomorrow.

[galactron22]

Judging by the looks of the Snake eyes in card, these might be post movie releases, by the looks of it they decided to cheap out on the packaging, instead of the figures, and that is a good thing in my book, I rather have a nice action figure than a nice card art.

[AirborneRigger]

I hope these are getting released! I would buy a few of each!

[Nirvana]

We did this for the canceled Data Viper, let's get an idea what the forums would do for this batch of figures:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/224604-how-many-these-figures-would-you-have-bought-arashikage-wave.html

[Xenos]

There was plenty of time, From January on till the end of may, thats 5 friggen months. Its retails fault that the 30th Anni pewter out over the last few months. Again retail is the reason these failed..not Hasbro's fault at all...there was no interest in them, probabley cause they would have demanded a smaller price point and Walmart and Target have to compete with Walgreens and CVS now with joes lol...at $15.99 a figure...so a $5.99 stripped down Joe line was just not fasicnating enough for the Walmart Suits...

Waves three and four both came out right at the end of 2011 though, and I don't think that they are only expecting a month shelf life for a wave of figures. I'm sure in a perfect world waves 3&4 would have shipped for at least three or four months.

And also, I just don't see how something could be a lead-in with no mention of what its leading into.

[Ash Talon]

The Arishikage symbol packaging certainly does seem aimed to tie into Retaliation. The lack of having the word "Retaliation" on it probably allows Hasbro to avoid having a portion of sales go back to Paramount. Clever marketing on their part.

Like others, I think these will pop up at discount retailers, or places like Walgreens.

I love the SE and Shipwreck. SS is a nice companion to SE, but his deco could have been a little more similar to the RAH figure. I'm not a big fan of the greenshirt look, so Duke does nothing for me. Same with the black Cobra Infantry. I have around 25 of the Anniversary/35th blueshirts. I don't think I need any blackshirts. CC is a pass. Again, just no need for him. But overall, these do look cool. Hopefully, they see the light of day at stores.

[Steevy Maximus]

Judging by the looks of the Snake eyes in card, these might be post movie releases, by the looks of it they decided to cheap out on the packaging, instead of the figures, and that is a good thing in my book, I rather have a nice action figure than a nice card art.

For all the complaints about Retaliation, there was still more "pop" to the packaging than these, including individual cardbacks (even if they didn't feature true filecards, each figure still had a unique cardback).

The cardback reminding me of another figure line: Mattel's cheap Batman Animated figure assortment they produced solely for the discounters, with a limited number of characters and something they could produce for YEARS without change.

Besides, Retaliation is slated to run up until if not past Christmas. This would be WAY too early to see the "next line" in completed packaged form. That line, whatever it ends up being, won't be on market until next spring if not next summer.


I really suspect this is a blowback from the last discount figure assortment: Hasbro is very acutely aware of consumer perception of their brands. While the Transformers discount product has always been comparable to the retail line, the last GI JOe discount line (neo-25th) would have likely reflected poorly on the brand as a whole.

Unlike in 2005, those figures were in NO way comparable to standard retail offerings, and I believe reflected the brand poorly. It is the same reason Hasbro priced RoC and Retaliation on par with other major brands like Star Wars and Avengers: Hasbro does not want GI Joe associated as a "cheap" brand, they want consumers to associate GI Joe as a "quality" brand on par with other major brands like Star Wars and Marvel (and a good way to equate that is through pricing).

The discounters are a BIG market, and a solid set of Joe figures (which I think these are) priced around $6-7, would reflect the brand better than the accessory-less, undersized o-ring figures.

[General Hawk]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

[80sKid]

Thank you Gyre for sharing! I am very excited for these and hope they see the light of day at retail. The whole dollar store theory sounds reasonable to me. I am just not looking forward to going to all the shady parts of town to all the Family Dollars like I did when looking to troop build BATs/Resolute Troopers/Eels/Etc... LOL! I went to some real questionable areas and people definitely looked at me like I was crazy to be there, especially when I came up to the counter with a stack of G.I. Joes! LOL!

[80sKid]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

Awesome news!!!

[orezona]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

And knowing will be detrimental to my bank account!

Thanks for shedding some light into this!

[JoeMama]

these look like either excellent customs with above average paint ap's, or highly desirable figures. I would buy them all, and probably several of that nightwatch cobra trooper.

[Fast_Draw]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

Thanks for the info! So long as they're not Dollar General exclusives, I'll be good. We've got most of the other dollar stores in the North East.

[Mainframe]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

I hope this stays the case! Thanks!!

[DESTRO]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

That's a strange Marketing move to compete with your Movie line with cheaper figures that most people like better then your big mass market movie toy line. SMH....

[troublemagnet]

Which Dollar stores? In my area we have Dollar Store, Family Dollar and Dollar General? In any case,all these look great!

[drunknmunky]

That's a strange Marketing move to compete with your Movie line with cheaper figures that most people like better then your big mass market movie toy line. SMH....

Maybe it's a way of drawing more attention to the movie line. For instance, most kids don't know about Joes. But if they were at the dollar store for cheap then a kid might get them simply because the parents like the price better. Then the kid sees more Joes in Target or Wal Mart and wants more. Just a guess. Honesty it is pretty strange. But hell I love the figures so I'm all for it.

[Steevy Maximus]

That's a strange Marketing move to compete with your Movie line with cheaper figures that most people like better then your big mass market movie toy line. SMH....

The only people I really see "liking these better" are the usual collector groups who hate "movie stuff" as a whole :p

I don't see any competition here, new kids the movie will bring in are NOT going to be rushing to Dollar General or Big Lots to get a Retaliation or GI Joe stuff. But for the moms or grandparents who happen to be in Family Dollar and know their kids likes that "GI Joe movie", these might make for a nice impulse buy.

And again, like the Transformers stuff or Mattel's Batman:TAS figures, this is something I think Hasbro could reliably produce and sell for years without changing them at all.

That said, these are CLEARLY more collector friendly than anything I've ever seen Hasbro produce for that market...

Which Dollar stores? In my area we have Dollar Store, Family Dollar and Dollar General? In any case,all these look great!

Potentially, all of them might get these. A lot of Hasbro's low cost stuff appears at multiple venues.

That said, BBTS has also offered this stuff in the past, albeit at healthier prices than the dollar stores.

[Veedubguy83]

Great, another store to look at for Joes... And scalpers will snatch them up and sell them for double or triple their worth...

[atomsmasher]

I love it. Awe my childhood is flashing again.

[SDawg]

Wow they look so nice, Id buy them ALL. Especiall the invasion troopers.

[DESTRO]

The only people I really see "liking these better" are the usual collector groups who hate "movie stuff" as a whole :p

I don't see any competition here, new kids the movie will bring in are NOT going to be rushing to Dollar General or Big Lots to get a Retaliation or GI Joe stuff. But for the moms or grandparents who happen to be in Family Dollar and know their kids likes that "GI Joe movie", these might make for a nice impulse buy.

And again, like the Transformers stuff or Mattel's Batman:TAS figures, this is something I think Hasbro could reliably produce and sell for years without changing them at all.

That said, these are CLEARLY more collector friendly than anything I've ever seen Hasbro produce for that market...



Potentially, all of them might get these. A lot of Hasbro's low cost stuff appears at multiple venues.

That said, BBTS has also offered this stuff in the past, albeit at healthier prices than the dollar stores.

Hey, don't get me wrong I want these, and I love the card art better then the Retaliation cards. IMO Hasbro is going to have a hit with Retaliation and the Toys will sell, regardless of a cheaper set that will compete outside of big box. I just hope they make enough to fill the hunger of the collectors and avoid the scalper-hording that is/was/currently going on with 30th anniversary and POC.

[Nemesis*Prime]

I'd buy a troop builder pack of those black COBRA troopers for sure. Selling figures like these at out of the way dollar stores? Hasblow really just can't resist shooting themselves in the foot can they?!

[atomsmasher]

I view this as a devious smart business plan. Perhaps Hasbro is seeing if two lines can compete side by side?

[Steevy Maximus]

Great, another store to look at for Joes... And scalpers will snatch them up and sell them for double or triple their worth...

That is extremely doubtful. Maybe for the first few minutes of availability, but have you seen how these items work?

They are produced in crazy numbers, and shipped in huge bulk to individual stores. These will be produced in display boxes, each box will have 2-3 of each figures, and each store will get 2-3 boxes. And that's not counting online guys (BBTS has carried these types of items in the past)
And if the prior GI Joe and Transformers stuff is any indication, these will pop up every fall for the next 2-3 YEARS.

I await the complaints that all Big Lots has in a couple years are a bunch of Storm Shadows, Dukes and Cobra Commanders :p

[Sciencefriction]

Meh, not bad, it's a nice nod to the older figures, but nothing really exciting. I much prefer the Retaliation product, but I might pick these up if I hear about them showing up.

[Steevy Maximus]

I view this as a devious smart business plan. Perhaps Hasbro is seeing if two lines can compete side by side?

No, they're not.

As far as Hasbro is concerned, they are two lines serving two different markets. A good example would be 2009: was the leftover 25th product shipped in the later half of the year competing with the big retail's Rise of Cobra stuff?
Probably not.

You will not find these and Retaliation figures on shelf at the same stores at the same time (unless Meijer decides to supplement their stuff like they did in 2008, carrying the newsculpt cheapies alongside 25th at the same price)

[80sKid]

Thanks for the info! So long as they're not Dollar General exclusives, I'll be good. We've got most of the other dollar stores in the North East.

I hear ya but for me I have literally 15 Dollar Generals with in a 20 mile radius of my house. Family Dollar I got 6... Either way I am good... Not looking forward to going in the hood but I gotta build an army of those Cobra Officers!

[DESTRO]

I await the complaints that all Big Lots has in a couple years are a bunch of Storm Shadows, Dukes and Cobra Commanders :p

That would be a great problem to have. I can see Duke selling, he makes a good green shirt.

[GI Guppy the third]

eh not a huge fan of these. I think I like that Sniper Trooper but the others are just sort of "meh"

[regisaugusto]

The GI joe infantry's helmet sculpt opens the possibility for a Footloose in the future...

[Lt. Faceless]

Snake eye and Storm shadow(those versions)have been on my want list for years.If i could get those,i would never need to buy another SE or SS figure again and that would be awsome.

[Souther]

I hope these get a release, I've been dying for a Version 4 Snake Eyes and Ninja Force Storm Shadow. Shipwreck and the Cobra Trooper look pretty good too but do they have the 30th anniversary style wrist articulation? They look like they're using 30th and PoC parts but I can't tell if the wrists are double jointed or not.

[cmderinchief]

Heh, I am amazed at the people who don't believe this news. As if I needed more proof, Gary's word is golden with me. I don't need much more than that. Can't wait to see these. I've been staring at that SE...and I hate SE, but it is bad arse!!

Now I am going to go back to playing with my Ghost Hawk 2 that I stole from my Chinese Buffet. Don't believe me?

[galactron22]

Get ready to hit Family Dollar boys and girls!

[Trazz]

I both love and hate this. I would totally buy the SE, SS, the black trooper and possibly the CC. I have wanted that SE and SS released since they started revamping all of the old lines. The black trooper reminds me of the sideshow cobra sniper and I think its badass. The problem I have is that I want those figures so badly but with more concrete detail and I feel like this is just half way there. Do I take these knowing that Hasbro will never get to the figures I actually want? Its depressing to think that since these were relegated to this level of detail that real carded versions of these badass figures would never happen. That makes me feel sad.

[luigi]

shipwreck looks cool

[Lt. Faceless]

Get ready to hit Family Dollar boys and girls!

I go to those stores so many times for random shit(it helps it is beside Food lion)that it would just be another trip to me.

On a side note:I did see Marvel Universe there(Family Dollar)had the same card art and everything.....but only had movement at the shoulder and hips and neck(looked very bad).If these new Joe toys turn out to be like those MU toys.Then to hell with that,i'll just make my own.

[Gyre-Viper]

As I said earlier... do NOT take the "canceled" thing so seriously.

I was just being upfront with what I was told and it should be taken
with a grain of salt, IF THAT.

Especially since Justin has some more info on these at GeneralsJoes.com


For anyone that missed them... Night-Viper and Crimson Guard are also up:
http://joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=487&start=0

[garoquel]

I like these figures even more than the movie figures the shipwreck looks good its a devil due homage and the ninjas look gear.

Hey isnt that green troper grunt since he has that M16A1 just like in the original card art? and I am getting a Grunt vibe dince he does look youngish since grunt joined the team straigth out of basic. and the grunt we got on the TRU 3 pack was pretty crappy.

Actually these figures look wayy better than the stuff the club was supposed to come out with and well all save hundreds of Dollars and they look awesome

[Nirvana]

Great, another store to look at for Joes... And scalpers will snatch them up and sell them for double or triple their worth...

That would happen no matter where they went. :(

[Steevy Maximus]

On a side note:I did see Marvel Universe there(Family Dollar)had the same card art and everything.....but only had movement at the shoulder and hips and neck(looked very bad).If these new Joe toys turn out to be like those MU toys.Then to hell with that,i'll just make my own.
Not the Iron Man and Spider-Man 2-3" figures, Family Dollar got an actual assortment of Marvel Universe last fall for $8
Family Dollar Variant Marvel Universe Avengers Figures Found - Marvel - MarvelousNews.com (http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=14594)

[Fox]

You know what's sad? That Hasbro can take parts from POC & 30th repaint them and can make a figures that still look better than half of the Joe 2 movies ones.

[Alyosha]

Sorry man, but I've just got to wonder WHERE Hasbro got the idea for that CC?

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs-works-progress/112656-kicking-puppies-fun-profit-less-than-20-day.html

[Gyre-Viper]

Sorry man, but I've just got to wonder WHERE Hasbro got the idea for that CC?

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs-works-progress/112656-kicking-puppies-fun-profit-less-than-20-day.html









http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/jdsopodcast/declassified1/DSC_0291.jpg

[Alyosha]

Pretty sure SE doesn't count as a puppy, but I'll roll with it!

[Darren]

Black and Silver Cobra Commander and Officer. I wonder if Hasbro tried to sell TRU on some "Senior Ranking Officer" set's for GI Joe 2? I would buy those in a second!

[high command]

Those joe troopers might fit in with an original 13 type of dio.

[kneroh]

Sorry man, but I've just got to wonder WHERE Hasbro got the idea for that CC?

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs-works-progress/112656-kicking-puppies-fun-profit-less-than-20-day.html

I guess they stole your idea in 1993.

[Shin Densetsu]

I the greatest Storm Shadow fan in the world and who dug Snake Eyes V4 will HAVE the sword brothers!

Ninja Force Storm Shadow was an awesome costume but bad figure. The lack of waist swivel really killed it, along with the neck that sat too high and the sculpt of the legs which hindered leg articulation. I had the original and the 2000 repaint which lacked the springs for his ninja action.

This new figure just needs the shoulder pads and he would be perfect. I think the hood is from a Zartan or Star Wars figure, either way, better than the Resolute hood. Using the Renegades body as a base is brilliant. DIG V4 Snake Eyes, now I don't need to make customs!

Since these will be at dollar stores I figure they will be easier to find. Hell I've wanted V4 SE and NFSS ever since the 25th started. Now I don't need to make customs! I will buy multiple Storm Shadows, my evil plan to make a custom 2002 GVC Storm Shadow just got easier...

[CG82]

If anyone gets a case of these to sell, PM me. But I could use least 4 of those Cobra Troopers, CC, SS and SE.

[Alyosha]

Yeah, I was thinking the RoC Destro thighs would be great for this.

Yes, they would. They don't fit under the older sculpt of the CG torso though. I had to spend some time with the dremel to make them fit and work. Still, in an ideal world.

Kneroh- Sure thing I was inspired by the 1993 version (but more by the artwork), however I'm not certain that THAT figure was on their radar until they spent about 45 minutes checking it out at my booth last year at JoeCon. Just a speculation.

[Gyre-Viper]

I the greatest Storm Shadow fan in the world and who dug Snake Eyes V4 will HAVE the sword brothers!

Ninja Force Storm Shadow was an awesome costume but bad figure. The lack of waist swivel really killed it, along with the neck that sat too high and the sculpt of the legs which hindered leg articulation. I had the original and the 2000 repaint which lacked the springs for his ninja action.

This new figure just needs the shoulder pads and he would be perfect. I think the hood is from a Zartan or Star Wars figure, either way, better than the Resolute hood. Using the Renegades body as a base is brilliant. DIG V4 Snake Eyes, now I don't need to make customs!

Since these will be at dollar stores I figure they will be easier to find. Hell I've wanted V4 SE and NFSS ever since the 25th started. Now I don't need to make customs! I will buy multiple Storm Shadows, my evil plan to make a custom 2002 GVC Storm Shadow just got easier...


I was wondering when you'd chime in. One of the first things I thought about when I first saw these was... "what's Shin gonna think?"

[ArbcoCeo]

Heh, I am amazed at the people who don't believe this news. As if I needed more proof, Gary's word is golden with me. I don't need much more than that. Can't wait to see these. I've been staring at that SE...and I hate SE, but it is bad arse!!

Now I am going to go back to playing with my Ghost Hawk 2 that I stole from my Chinese Buffet. Don't believe me?

I pity the audacious fools who doubt the magnificent bastard that is Gyre-Viper.

[Superjoe74]

That's a strange Marketing move to compete with your Movie line with cheaper figures that most people like better then your big mass market movie toy line. SMH....

Hasbro is trying to sell a less expensive line to get their product into another consumer market- as terrible as it sounds they are trying to get their toys into the hands of the 'poor' kids. If the product can generate interest in that consumer market then perhaps it will lead to greater sales at the box office and the regular Retaliation line. I don't see any competition between the two lines- I see strategic marketing and support for an overall higher volume of sales.

In any case, I will be shopping the Dollar store religiously until I have these figures. I am more excited about them than most of the Retaliation figures.

[sparks007]

Thanks for sharing the pics with the rest of us. I hope these are not cancelled. Gyre you da man !!!!!!!!

[Steel Brigade]

For those folks wondering, I dug into my little black book and got some information for you...

Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

These are NOT canceled figures. They are slated for release in dollar stores at price points somewhat lower than main line released items.

And now you know!

And knowing is half the battle! Yo Joe! Thanks General Hawk! SHP)

[PinewoodCobra]

I never thought I would be amped for a Snake Eyes, but I am. A flashback to the Battle Corps/Ninja Force era interests me. The neon BATs are cool.

This is the fun part of our hobby... the mystery of how it will all come together.

[Gyre-Viper]

I pity the audacious fools who doubt the magnificent bastard that is Gyre-Viper.


Heheh. Coming from one of my favorite people from this community I've actually got to hang out with at con... that means a lot. heheheh.

In all seriousness... I suppose (despite my 3 years of posting this kind of stuff) the "fake"/"shenanigans"/"must-be-customs" is not only expected but I suppose I should also be flattered hahahah. I've never made a custom but apparently I might be really good at it. HAHAHAHAHAHA. If these are customs maybe Hasbro will finally hire me. HAHAHAHA.

I don't really feel the need to defend myself... but I do know there are some new members here so I figure I'll just take a moment to play catch up:

if these are customs then Justin is a liar:
Details revealed about vintage-themed mystery G.I. Joe figures | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/04/16/details-revealed-about-vintage-themed-mystery-g-i-joe-figures/)

if these are customs then Fran is naive:
http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/possible-upcoming-gijoe-retaliation-gijoe-movie-toys-11235/ (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/possible-upcoming-gijoe-retaliation-gijoe-movie-toys-11235/)

if these are customs then Joe Declassified (which is NOT my site)
... an organization with enough history and clout behind it to
topple a sky scraper... is actually just a front for forgeries and
fakes:
JoeDeclassified.com &bull; View topic - Funskool (India) Vehicle Drivers and new variations! (http://joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46)

JoeDeclassified.com &bull; View topic - 30th Techno-Viper IN-HAND PICS (http://joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=405)

JoeDeclassified.com &bull; View topic - Ferret 2up Pattern IN-HAND PICS. (http://joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=318)

JoeDeclassified.com &bull; View topic - Unproduced 6" GI JOE line SECOND prepro sample (http://joedeclassified.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=304)


And then everything I've ever posted is most likely a lie as well.
HissTank.com - G.I. Joe - Search Results (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3659185)

HissTank.com - G.I. Joe - Search Results (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3659185&pp=10&page=9)

A first in hand look at G.I. Joe: Retaliation figures launches today with Kamakura! | Generals Joes - A blog about the importance (or unimportance) of little plastic men (http://generalsjoes.com/2012/02/28/a-first-in-hand-look-at-g-i-joe-retaliation-figures-launches-today-with-kamakura/)

[CG82]

That SS is also based on the hard to get Renegades SS. Thats a quality sculpt.

[Sciencefriction]

Yeah, I really don't get why anyone would call you a liar Gyre, or why anyone is so quick to do that in general. People are almost always telling the truth in this community, and even if they're not it's extremely rude to be beligerant and demanding regardless. Thanks for always sharing things with us, and please don't stop because of a few potty mouths.

[Lt. Faceless]

Not the Iron Man and Spider-Man 2-3" figures, Family Dollar got an actual assortment of Marvel Universe last fall for $8
Family Dollar Variant Marvel Universe Avengers Figures Found - Marvel - MarvelousNews.com (http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=14594)

I didn't see those.I'll snap a pic next time i'm there.These were 4-5$? and just looked bad.

[Alyosha]

I didn't see those.I'll snap a pic next time i'm there.These were 4-5$? and just looked bad.

I've got a couple of these. They are better painted versions of the Cap/Spidey/IM drivers on a simple smaller MU card held in the bubble by a clear band. Cap has an excellent shield, but that is the only accessory.

[Gyre-Viper]

Yeah, I really don't get why anyone would call you a liar Gyre, or why anyone is so quick to do that in general. People are almost always telling the truth in this community, and even if they're not it's extremely rude to be beligerant and demanding regardless. Thanks for always sharing things with us, and please don't stop because of a few potty mouths.


There is always room for speculation. It isn't that things shouldn't be scrutinized or questioned... but I mean Justin posted info on this. How hard can it be to accept these for what they are and ESPECIALLY after Justin's post. So odd.

[Sciencefriction]

Yeah, speculation is fine, but it is often more than that. Especially in this case, it really is odd. Oh well, it's something that follows every single new discovery or sighting. I guess it's just part of it, just gotta ignore it. :/

[Troynos]

I hated that ARAH SE but I like this one.

I love that Shipwreck and that is the best Cobra Trooper ever.

[judd]

Getting it BACK ON TOPIC, I dig all these figures but reckon the Shipwreck is the ROC repainted. The SE and SS are new though yes? Mostly? I don't really recognise anything on either of them except for weapons.

[gruppenfuhrer88]

These are pretty sweet Gyre, thanks for sharing guy!

[WVMojo]

I hope these are the Dollar Store line...would be nice to buy GI Joes at $5.00 each like pre-RoC.

[NAJA EMPIRE]

So your telling me these are going to be selling in the dollar stores?... Believe it when I see it!!!

[jogunwarrior]

I love seeing these awesome little insights into what will be, or could have been in some cases. When I first thought they were cancelled I was pretty sad because that Snake Eyes is an update of my favorite Snake Eyes figure! It's cool to hear these may actually be released at retail.
Now I'll hopefully have something to pick up at Dollar General besides Valor vs Venom Night Force Beachheads and Tele Vipers.

[Jay West]

I still like them all even thought everyone here is lying.

[IIIzoeIII]

these are interesting
they kinda look like really basic figures that would show up at like CVS or a dollar store like the single card valor vs venom figures

[galapagos]

Sorry man, but I've just got to wonder WHERE Hasbro got the idea for that CC?

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-customs-works-progress/112656-kicking-puppies-fun-profit-less-than-20-day.html

Yeah, they stole it from you. It has nothing to do with this. YOJOE.COM | Cobra Commander (http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/cobracommander6.shtml)

[Barefoot Jedi]

So your telling me these are going to be selling in the dollar stores?... Believe it when I see it!!!

I hope there's a Wave 2 with Serpentor in it. ;)

[Nirvana]

Not the Iron Man and Spider-Man 2-3" figures, Family Dollar got an actual assortment of Marvel Universe last fall for $8
Family Dollar Variant Marvel Universe Avengers Figures Found - Marvel - MarvelousNews.com (http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=14594)

No, Faceless is correct. Family Dollar has a new limited articulation case of MU figures that popped up after Xmas. Those are the figures people have repeatedly referred to in the thread, not the revision MU case FD got before Xmas.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/Cap_MU1.jpg

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/Cap_MUbk.jpg

http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/Cap_MUcom.jpg

[the odinson]

shit has me excited, and not in a forced retaliation kind of way, in a genuine 'man, i hope this catches on' kind of way. great for custom fodder and they come with stands! yipee!

[CG82]

Yeah I dont get why these figures(provide they're legit) are hitting "dollar" stores which there isnt many here in Brooklyn, least of which actually carry GI JOE figures.

[captain mal]

Dollar Store Packaging > Main Line Retaliation Packaging.

just sayin'.

[Alyosha]

Yeah, they stole it from you. It has nothing to do with this. YOJOE.COM | Cobra Commander (http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/cobracommander6.shtml)

If you read a couple of posts further down (I know that's asking a lot from some people) then I clarified what I said so it would make sense. Nobody has a sense of humor anymore evidently.

[Nirvana]

You can still sell the clear figure stand with the kicked puppy. :D

[straightedge]

UM I already HAVE customs of these so why woud Hasbro release them then? Jeez. Why don't they just try something NEW for once instead. It's really an insult to the fans.

Tom

+1, my man!

[KINGOFNOD5]

I don't know if this has been answered but is the head on Snake-eyes new?...I thought it was the delta head but now that I look at it I clearly see it is not any info on that?