Two Endings Being Test Screened For G.I. JOE RETALIATION

[CG82]

With a little over two months until its opening its no surprise that G.I. Joe Retaliation is test screening. What does come as a surprise however is that test audiences may not being seeing the exact same film. According to Nuke The Fridge screenings are consisting of two separate endings. NTF's sources are saying Paramount is screening the two endings in hopes of avoiding a box office flop. While the films predecessor G.I. Joe Rise Of Cobra was a financial success it was met with some pretty harsh criticisms. Now it looks like Jon Chu and company are doing everything they can to ensure that not only is this one a financially successful but critically as well.

According to a story line NTF posted G.I. Joe Retaliation will center around Cobra spy Zartan who has that majority of the G.I. Joes assassinated. The film will also see the remaining joes band together to strike back. The film stars D.J. Cotrona, Byung-hun Lee, Ray Park, Adrianne Palicki, Jonathan Pryce, RZA, Ray Stevenson, Channing Tatum, Bruce Willis, Dwayne Johnson, and will be released on June 29, 2012.

Two Endings Being Test Screened For G.I. JOE RETALIATION (http://nukethefridge.com/news/ntf-exclusive-two-ending-for-g-i-joe-retaliation-being-screened)

[drunknmunky]

I hope both involve beating Cobra by using left over Accelerator Suits.









Seriously.

[hotmitts]

Maybe they just wanted to kill Channing Tatum in several different ways. Hopefully.

[WildWeaselZ06]

Maybe they just wanted to kill Channing Tatum in several different ways. Hopefully.

I like this idea

[Lifeline_MD]

I would suspect one includes showing the ROC cast still alive (Duke, Ripcord, Scarlett etc) and one without, along with other changes.

Lets them know if people want to see those characters come back or not.

THat's the only thing I can really think of.

[joedelta]

1st- Duke Dies
2nd- Duke wakes up from acoma

[Griffin73]

Let's hope they replace Duke (Channing Tatum) with someone who isn't such a tool. Can GI Joe do a James Bond and just give his code name to another soldier?

[cobracobra]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

[Lion]

I would suspect one includes showing the ROC cast still alive (Duke, Ripcord, Scarlett etc) and one without, along with other changes.

Lets them know if people want to see those characters come back or not.

THat's the only thing I can really think of.

Kinda reminds me of the 86 Transformers movie where they killed off most of the main cast to introduce new toys...er...characters...

[WildWeaselZ06]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

Quite possibly, honestly he wasnt that bad. He just had no right to be Ripcord. I loved the comics, therefore Ripcord is a significant character in my take of the universe.

[Angry.Android]

man, i hope brucejoe coltonwillis gets shot in the face with a 4ga shotgun.

[drunknmunky]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

I love RoC. I had no connection to Ripcord so I didn't care who played him. I thought Wayans added a fun character to the movie.

man, i hope brucejoe coltonwillis gets shot in the face with a 4ga shotgun.

Glad I'm not the only one who couldn't give two craps about that guy playing in Retaliation.

[TheRealDubya]

I've come around on C-Tates, after Haywire and 21 Jump Street. Dude is cool.

He's a perfectly reasonable actor to play a character based on a piece of plastic from 28 years ago.

The Tatum hating is asinine. He was not the problem with that first movie, by any stretch.

*Puts on asbestos underwear*

[skinny]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

No you are not alone, I think Marlon was a little miffed.

[Headman]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

No, I'm sure there are other people smoking the same shit.

[Sciencefriction]

No, I'm sure there are other people smoking the same shit.

Word.

I have nothing against Wayans or Tatum, they're just not Ripcord & Duke to me and never will be.

[Jmacq1]

I've come around on C-Tates, after Haywire and 21 Jump Street. Dude is cool.

He's a perfectly reasonable actor to play a character based on a piece of plastic from 28 years ago.

The Tatum hating is asinine. He was not the problem with that first movie, by any stretch.

*Puts on asbestos underwear*

I strongly disagree: Tatum's weak performance seriously hurt RoC. You can dismiss it as "a piece of plastic from 28 years ago" but if that's what it is for you, then I'm surprised you're passionate enough about G.I. Joe to even bother coming to a website like this. After all, it all boils down to "little pieces of plastic from the past" in the end.

While it's often the curse of the straight-laced "leading man" to come across as bland (particularly compared to the often-colorful villains (Pretty much the whole Cobra crew), "Badass" supporting characters (Snake-Eyes) and the wisecracking comic-relief characters (Ripcord)), there are plenty of actors that can take such a role and still make the most of it. Tatum...clearly didn't in RoC.

Now, what I've come to realize, is that Tatum appears to be an actor that CAN give good performances if he's either engaged by the material or has a good director pushing him. Though it may be telling that his real talent seems to be in comedy rather than outright action. Sommers likely takes a hefty bit of the blame for Tatum's (lack of) performance in RoC, but it also may be a matter of mismatched material. Tatum gave mostly the right sound bites during the press junkets for RoC, but compare his level of "enthusiasm" to that which Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has demonstrated during Retaliation. One of these guys is simply doing his professional duty, the other has taken it upon himself to be a one-man marketing machine for the film.

[B and H Comics]

Good post by by Jmacq1...Look at Harrison Ford in ROTJ , he obviously was bored and it is documented he didnt want to do the third movie, but he still pulls of a decent performance.

[cobracobra]

No, I'm sure there are other people smoking the same shit.

Well us weed smokers got to stick together. Ripcord was good people in ROC. I quite like the movie I am sorry it suffered so much scrutiny. Funny, explosions, ninjas, head shots by hot red heads and Marlon Wayans its all good baby! Roll me up a fatty and lets hear it with the director commentary. Inside the actors studio if you will.

[CG82]

Ripcord was worse than Tatum, he wasnt even funny and I kept thinking about his role in "Scary Movie". If anything he shouldve been Stalker, but the whole team was some UN un-American hero, it was the wigs of Hasbro in cahoots with Hollywood liberals PCing the brand to shit. So really blame them.


Problem with Tatum is that he represents the archtype of pretty boy, all star and jock which rubs alotve guys the wrong way, but the character of Duke in the movie was that. They did the same thing with Captain Kirk in the star trek remake but played up him being a philander.

I think most want Duke or Hawk, to be an actor like John Wayne and like the old movies which the cartoon modeled on the old WWII movies and types of characters which those actors and characters dont exist today. We are thankful that Optimus Prime retained Peter Cullen but only because its an alien and CGI. We dont have the sorta actors today with good voices and charisma plus looks like we did back in the day. I think the Captain American atleast tried to hearken back to all of that and kinda succeeded and wasnt a bad movie. I think better than Thor.

GI JOE needed to be made back in the Reagan's 80's which is GI JOE A Real American Hero's era and heyday.

I'd like to hear/read the reviews of these screenings. Does anybody remember this about ROC? I do wonder if it was indeed true..

Rumor: Stephen Sommers Fired Mid-Way Through G.I. Joe? | FirstShowing.net (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/rumor-stephen-sommers-fired-mid-way-through-gi-joe/)

[Jay West]

I've come around on C-Tates, after Haywire and 21 Jump Street. Dude is cool.

He's a perfectly reasonable actor to play a character based on a piece of plastic from 28 years ago.

The Tatum hating is asinine. He was not the problem with that first movie, by any stretch.

*Puts on asbestos underwear*

I HATED Channing in ROC. Went to see 21 Jumpstreet on a lark and he made that movie. He was awesome in it.

[cobracobra]

Ok did everyone here hate or love The Mummy? I will raise my two hands with yes I loved The Mummy all three of them..? Kinda yes. Especially with the chocolate warriors from China. Yum yum.

[Jacklefttown]

Did someone say Marlon Wayans as Stalker? No way, Stalker was all business, a real deal soldier!

Why don't they somehow incorporate GI Joe issue #21 "Silent Interlude" into the climax of this film?! Tell me THAT wouldn't be the shiz!

[orezona]

Ok did everyone here hate or love The Mummy? I will raise my two hands with yes I loved The Mummy all three of them..? Kinda yes. Especially with the chocolate warriors from China. Yum yum.


Quit bogarting and give me some of that shit you're puffin', son!

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhykuvhGfY1qeiiy4o1_500.gif

[Jmacq1]

Ok did everyone here hate or love The Mummy? I will raise my two hands with yes I loved The Mummy all three of them..? Kinda yes. Especially with the chocolate warriors from China. Yum yum.

I liked the first two Mummy films well enough, at least until that CGI-Monstrosity with the Rock's likeness showed up.

Never saw the Mummy 3, though, and thought Van Helsing was craptacular.

[CG82]

Did someone say Marlon Wayans as Stalker? No way, STalker was all business, a real deal soldier!

So was Ripcord,lol. Wouldve been a natural choice role instead of butchering Ripcord, then again any part with Wayans wouldve did that. He shouldve been Doc maybe,lol.

Predator and The Expendables had a good GI JOE like cast and characters...surely a Sgt Rock influence in those movies obviously.

[Derek2783]

I've come around on C-Tates, after Haywire and 21 Jump Street. Dude is cool.

He's a perfectly reasonable actor to play a character based on a piece of plastic from 28 years ago.

The Tatum hating is asinine. He was not the problem with that first movie, by any stretch.

*Puts on asbestos underwear*

I don't think there's anything wrong with Tatum. He's funny. He's just not Duke. Duke is hard. Duke is imposing. Duke leads the f-ing GI Joes.

Duke's voice does not crack. Duke does not mumble.

It's not that Tatum isn't a cool guy, I have no idea what kind of person he is. It's that as Duke, he was insufficient.

[blackbarn]

How to avoid a flop? Maybe write a solid script with a single appropriate ending that fits well with the story to begin with.

[Sgt Major Haley]

I liked the Mummy Movies Ive seen. 1, Return, Scorpion King and Dragon. The only problem with DE, was although I do like Maria Bello, shes no Rachel Wise and the British accent was forced.

[Raw Dog]

Cool, I hope they end up going with the ending more people enjoy because I really want this movie to be a huge success! I think that if it is, the chances of more Joe toys for me to buy being produced will increase. I also hope they include the alternate ending on the DVD release because hearing that 2 endings were produced makes me want to see both.

[TheRealDubya]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Tatum. He's funny. He's just not Duke. Duke is hard. Duke is imposing. Duke leads the f-ing GI Joes.

Duke's voice does not crack. Duke does not mumble.

It's not that Tatum isn't a cool guy, I have no idea what kind of person he is. It's that as Duke, he was insufficient.

Yeah, but I maintain that was Sommers' or the studio's lousy direction, not the actor's fault.

[skinny]

Why don't they somehow incorporate GI Joe issue #21 "Silent Interlude" into the climax of this film?! Tell me THAT wouldn't be the shiz!

they are doing an homage to 21, Chu confirmed that.

[Ford]

Ok did everyone here hate or love The Mummy? I will raise my two hands with yes I loved The Mummy all three of them..? Kinda yes. Especially with the chocolate warriors from China. Yum yum.

I loved The Mummy! The sequels got worse and worse, but the first one was great. The five seconds of screen time that Brendan Fraser got in Rise of Cobra made me wish he had been Duke instead.

[poddie]

I didn't hate Duke. I didn't love him, and I didn't think his acting was great or anything, but I certainly didn't hate him. I don't understand why he's always the scapegoat.

I HATED Ripcord. Just completely in the wrong movie. I just wanted him to shut up the entire time. I like Marlon, but that character was just way too silly for a GI Joe movie. It is possible to have a funny movie without being so blatently and distastefully obvious about every joke.

I really feel they are making a big mistake by not bringing Rachel Nichols back. Scarlett is one of my favorite characters and I thought she represented her very well, with the exception of the awful idea for her to be involved with Ripcord. This would have been the perfect opportunity... kill off Ripcord, let her morn a little and be comforted by Snake Eyes (no more than 5 minutes of screen time is neccessary). Then in th enext movie all is made right with the world and she is SE's babe.

I also really liked the Baroness and Hawk, but I understand they wouldn't touch a sequel with a ten foot pole... at least, probably not unless this one is a smash hit.

I really thought most of the problems were with the script, not the actors. If Sommers didn't feel the need to shoehorn so many inter-relationships into a 90 minute movie it would have been SOOOO much easier to swallow.

I also hated the accelerator suits but suspect they were probably a hit with the general audience.

As is, I love the movie when I watch it and cover my ears when they get to any of the parts about Baroness being in love with Duke or being CC's sister. And I cringe when the accelerator suits come on but I do find the effect to be entertaining so I live with it hoping it is the last we ever see of them.

I think I will actually miss a lot of the high concept weaponry and technology in the new movie. I don't like nanomites being the root of everything, but to me Cobra is all about having cool advanced technology that blows your socks off, and that's one thing RoC did well.

[Iron Guru]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

No you're not the only one. I hated ROC the movie, but I actually liked him in it. Duke on the other hand not so much.

Quite possibly, honestly he wasnt that bad. He just had no right to be Ripcord. I loved the comics, therefore Ripcord is a significant character in my take of the universe.

I agree as I stated before I liked him in the movie, but he shouldn't have been Ripcord. He should've been an entirely different character, maybe someone totally new.

I love RoC. I had no connection to Ripcord so I didn't care who played him. I thought Wayans added a fun character to the movie.


I hate ROC, but like you I didn't really have a connection to Ripcord. I just don't like the fact that they totally changed him from what was already established. I enjoyed Marlon's parts in a movie that I thought sucked.

[Zarana]

I hope doc tells us duke came out of his coma.

[lazlo76]

Before discovering that Channing Tatum is cool doing comedies like 21 Jump Street I totally hated the dude because it seemed that Hollywood was prepping him to be some sort of dreamy romantic hunk despite having limited dramatic acting skills.

But I guess the hate stems is that Channing was playing an important Joe like Duke and not some other green shirt which would've been better.

I've just rewatched ROC after a long time and I can accept it as an alternate multiverse re-imagination of G.I.Joe because it's just a bad movie overall.

[Super Beast]

I hope Duke lives actually. Tatum is doing pretty good lately. Go watch 21 Jump Street.

[chorvacommander]

First reaction to “G.I. Joe: Retaliation” is very positive!

MAJOR SPOILER ALERT

First reaction to (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TurkeyLegs/news/?a=57825)

[Super Beast]

First reaction to “G.I. Joe: Retaliation” is very positive!

MAJOR SPOILER ALERT

First reaction to (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TurkeyLegs/news/?a=57825)

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just ruined some HUGE things in the movie.

[nightfall]

Damn!!! Just read the First Reaction. Some cool surprises in there and one helluva' reveal about Channing if its totally true. That movie is going to kick more ass than expected. I still think its use of ninjas' is over the top. But I'm so excited to see Retaliation. Yo Joe!!

[Crimson Rage]

Not reading the review, so the idiots spoiling here are already pi$$ing me off... but I loathe the concept of "two endings" being touted. Just have the courage of your convictions and stop whoring out your film.

I hold no brief for Tatum, but equally don't think he's the devil's child like some here seem to - As far as I was concerned he was fine. The "Tatum sucks" bandwagon was filled up pretty quick simply because (I believe) he was the nominal "star" in an ensemble cast, had the most screen time and wasn't Robert DeNiro, ergo he became a visible focal point at which the people who hated the film could direct their ire.

[ShockVal]

Not reading the review, so the idiots spoiling here are already pi$$ing me off... but I loathe the concept of "two endings" being touted. Just have the courage of your convictions and stop whoring out your film.

Cool endings. I like both of them. Hope the DVD has them both. I sent you a PM with the details. :D

[Shin Densetsu]

I read the review...couldn't help it...IF that was legit...that's quite awesome...

I mean some stuff we already knew, like Zartan as POTUS, Cobra Commander with battle mask, et al, but the other stuff..wow.

[IIIzoeIII]

wow..can't believe they really KILL Duke.
I guess I was wrong on that end but looks like I was super right about Storm Shadow defecting and taking on Zartan haha props for meee!..................cricket sound FX...
I'm in store for something that just isn't GI Joe so I won't be as disappointed this time around by how weird and unfaithful it is.I even went back several times and tried to watch RoC with the mindset that it wasn't GI Joe and it didn't help it's just not a good film..bad acting and terrible costumes/choreography can't be enjoyed on any level.

[Bushmaster72]

So many years ago when G.I.Joe the Movie(cartoon came out) Hasbro originally green-lit the demise of Duke, but due to fan outrage over Optimus Prime's death they decided to have Duke come out of his coma.

Maybe this time Hasbro green-lit it again but with no intent to pull it back. Maybe this will be the end of Duke....forever....forever....ever...ever.....ver. ...ver...er....er...rr...rr.......

[Jmacq1]

So many years ago when G.I.Joe the Movie(cartoon came out) Hasbro originally green-lit the demise of Duke, but due to fan outrage over Optimus Prime's death they decided to have Duke come out of his coma.

Maybe this time Hasbro green-lit it again but with no intent to pull it back. Maybe this will be the end of Duke....forever....forever....ever...ever.....ver. ...ver...er....er...rr...rr.......

Nah, RoC/Movie-verse is a separate continuity from other Joe incarnations. I'm sure we'll still get Duke figures. It'd be awfully nice if they throttled down on how frequently, though.

[Stuart_Selkirk]

Now all the Duke haters can jump and dance and enjoy the movie.

[Jmacq1]

Now all the Duke haters can jump and dance and enjoy the movie.

Ehn, take it with a grain of salt. This is the kind of thing that can easily be changed between test-screenings and the final product.

[CG82]

It is probably a BS review and it doesnt really tell us much besides. Not even sure why there is an url to "Joe Somebody" with Tim Allen with GI JOE 3 attached,lol.

It is unlikely that they'll kill off Duke due to Duke constantly being the flagship GI JOE team leader since the 1980's and especially in all the incarnations in the 2000's. We'd be more likely to see Hawk die since Hasbro underused that character cause of Duke. They didnt even kill off Hawk in ROC or Duke in GI JOE the movie. That said even if they kill Duke, they'll likely find a way to bring him back for GI JOE 3 like they did Storm Shadow in this movie.

[MightyMegs]

Depending on the ending they use... they can always have Duke survive, but with reconstructive surgery to look like, I dunno... another actor.

[ChaplainAsst]

Not sure about that spoiler about Duke and here's why: either the trailer is flawed or something pointless happens because we see Tatum breathing in the well (or whatever that tunnel is) and even how he is riding down the well into the water, and we see bullets buzzing by his body in the water. If something happened with a humvee exploding, that would mean he survived that whole initial encounter, only to get killed outside? Seems pointless. Sure, maybe more happened, but with Tatum saying he was only there for a short time filming, I don't see how. Maybe some scenes were cut to allow Tatum to exit the franchise? Or maybe this is just someone making stuff up to get some attention. I feel comfortable throwing that last point out there because none of the other "spoilers" seem all that unimaginable with what we have already heard or seen.

[esg2145]

Word.

I have nothing against Wayans or Tatum, they're just not Ripcord & Duke to me and never will be.


Agreed.

Tatum was just too young for the character, and Wayans was just to goofy to be Ripcord.

Ripcord did not even make sense in the story line as being Duke's "buddy", not to mention Ripcord was in anything, always more of a "bitter" character if you follow the ARAH storyline, which is the only place we really know anything about him (was he ever even in the cartoon?).

A lot of people say he would have been a better fit as Stalker, and I think most say this b/c he's black. That also is incorrect (for the obvious reason - he doesn't necessarily have to be a black character just b/c the actor is), but Stalker was always a bit more hard core, and not so much comic relief / a smart a$$. Not mention more of a leader if anything else.

If you had made Wayans more of something like Breaker for the comic side of it and for a smart-arse character, and even then I don't know if that works - who else was a smart a$$ed Joe?, THAT if anything would probably made more sense.

As much as I don't like Tatum, I can't see how they can get away w/ killing off Duke, with as large of a part as the character has always been to the legend of the Joes.

[Raw Dog]

I hope they end up going with the ending where Duke lives. I really like Duke and I don't want him to die. I can see why they decided to film a version with him dying, it's cool I guess, and I wouldn't mind seeing it as an extra on a DVD. I just don't want to take my son to see a movie where Duke dies. I think this whole news story is just a ploy to try to entice those that didn't like Duke in RoC back into theatres to watch Retaliation. Duke can't die, he just can't!

[MightyMegs]

Not sure about that spoiler about Duke and here's why: either the trailer is flawed or something pointless happens because we see Tatum breathing in the well (or whatever that tunnel is) and even how he is riding down the well into the water, and we see bullets buzzing by his body in the water. If something happened with a humvee exploding, that would mean he survived that whole initial encounter, only to get killed outside? Seems pointless. Sure, maybe more happened, but with Tatum saying he was only there for a short time filming, I don't see how. Maybe some scenes were cut to allow Tatum to exit the franchise? Or maybe this is just someone making stuff up to get some attention. I feel comfortable throwing that last point out there because none of the other "spoilers" seem all that unimaginable with what we have already heard or seen.

I thought that was Roadblock in the well...

[CG82]

With all the publicity The Rock is getting even on the packaging, it seems the movie is centered on him and if Tatum/Duke bites the farm then The Rock is taking over the franchise.

[Trooper618]

I thought that was Roadblock in the well...

it is

[returnofplex]

Duke is my favorite Joe, but thank God he apparently bites the dust. Tatum was SO horrible in the first movie as Duke it almost seems like a mercy kill. Maybe someone else will fill the code name in the next movie who actually has some presence.

[Gung.Heaux]

man, i hope brucejoe coltonwillis gets shot in the face with a 4ga shotgun.

Holy Drokk! i thought i was the only anti-willis fan out there.
dont like the guy...at all.

however...i do appreciate the (obvious) clout his name is bringing to retaliation.

[Gung.Heaux]

Not sure about that spoiler about Duke and here's why: either the trailer is flawed or something pointless happens because we see Tatum breathing in the well (or whatever that tunnel is) and even how he is riding down the well into the water, and we see bullets buzzing by his body in the water. If something happened with a humvee exploding, that would mean he survived that whole initial encounter, only to get killed outside? Seems pointless. Sure, maybe more happened, but with Tatum saying he was only there for a short time filming, I don't see how. Maybe some scenes were cut to allow Tatum to exit the franchise? Or maybe this is just someone making stuff up to get some attention. I feel comfortable throwing that last point out there because none of the other "spoilers" seem all that unimaginable with what we have already heard or seen.

mr. gideon, youre not paying attention.

[steve_smmr]

i was hoping that i would get the answer to the one question i'm asking in my head....

most of what was revealed were givens. i'm not too concerned about what's going on with snakes, storm shadow, and zartan.

what i was really hoping to find out is the whole 'it's not the same commander' deal. i was hoping against hope there would be some hint as to what that equals; some confirmation that the fearful theory of destro being CC is false.

[CG82]

The actor playing CC doesnt look very intimidating in terms of physical presence/build:

http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/g-i-joe-retaliation-top-10-cobra-commander/G_I_Joe_Retaliation_Exclusive_Premiere_Trailer_HD% 201444.jpg

[steve_smmr]

cobra commander to me wasn't a physically impressive villain... unless he's spewing some propaganda from a podium or on a viewscreen. as long as the VOICE is intimidating, along the lines of starscream from transformers prime i'll be happy.

[steve_smmr]

also, physical stature means nothing since eccleston's 'daystro' wasn't that physically intimidating either.

[Mermaniel]

Just when you think the Joes save the day, Scrap Iron and Major Bludd show up and blow sh!t up.

[Snake Shadow09]

hmmm...

[Derek2783]

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Why did I read the spoiler?!?!?!?!



Darn myself.

[ssgjasonw]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

Yes. You are the only one.

[RANGER SMITTY]

How could they possibly kill of Duke? He's the main character for G.I. JOE! I knew that director was going to screw up the franchise.

First he makes Roadblock a ninja, then he changes Cobra Commander, now Duke is dead? What the flip?

I wont be going to see this crap.

[whitefox360]

How could they possibly kill of Duke? He's the main character for G.I. JOE! I knew that director was going to screw up the franchise.

First he makes Roadblock a ninja, then he changes Cobra Commander, now Duke is dead? What the flip?

I wont be going to see this crap.

That duke deserved to die. Roc's cobra commander works better as an insane with power mindbender/ impersonator and im not sure snake eyes going out of his way to train fellow team members how to be awesome is all that offensive.

As a joe enthisiasts and fans, we all need to go see it at least once.

Im sure the ninja thing is in for the same reason the accel suits were in the first: gi joe as a brand needs SOMETHING that makes it stand out against every other "army men vs bad guys" movie.

A group of ten or so snake eyes calibur badasses isnt that bad. Hell, theyre prolly only doing it because se was more than likely everybodys favorite thing last time out. Casual and otherwise.

[Griff]

Im sure that Tatum Duke will be written off in the 3rd one as a fake duke of some sort.....as for wayans and his NOT ripcord...good riddance i say....maybe they can bring in a real ripcord and the character wayans was SUPPOSED to have been ...STATIC LINE!!!

As far as RB being a ninja...i doubt we'll see him sailing through the air weilding a dai katana or anything...its probably said that because SE helps to train the remaining joes so they are a bit more hand to hand worthy...lets face it...after getting their asses handed to them in the begining they will need all the edge they can get!!!

[Fox]

As for the two endings. I have a ideas.

Storm Shadow dies. Think about it. In the first movie his uncle is murdered and everyone just assumes that Storm Shadow is involved. Instead of explaining exactly what happened Storm Shadow is "killed" by Snake Eyes in the end. In the Second movie Storm Shadow is back. Why? To make amends with Snake Eyes. How do that? Make a heroic sacrifice like Darth Vader. Storm Shadow dies in Snake Eyes arms after saving him or Snake Eyes saves him with some ninja healing techinque.

[tanker]

FYI!!!! Fake review. It is on good authority that I say Duke "DOES NOT DIE". That is all I can say about the matter. Take it for what it is. Bogus review.

[Derek2783]

How could they possibly kill of Duke? He's the main character for G.I. JOE! I knew that director was going to screw up the franchise.

First he makes Roadblock a ninja, then he changes Cobra Commander, now Duke is dead? What the flip?

I wont be going to see this crap.

To be fair to Chu, he had to fix a lot of problems. Tatum as Duke was one of them. Rex was another.

Honestly, if you went to see the first one, I can't imagine that Retaliation could be any worse. Actually, for that matter, if you went to see the first one, I can't imagine that you'd not be 100% behind the changes you just listed.

[obiwanie]

Why is everyone rooting for Duke (Channing Tatum) to die ? In my opinion he was not a bad choice for Duke. If we did not have to remember the crap known as the accelerator suits and bad writing because of the writers strike, I think that he would have been able to portray Duke for who we remember the character to be.

Keep Channing Tatum as DUKE !!!

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Fail ^

[Steevy Maximus]

Why is everyone rooting for Duke (Channing Tatum) to die ? In my opinion he was not a bad choice for Duke. If we did not have to remember the crap known as the accelerator suits and bad writing because of the writers strike, I think that he would have been able to portray Duke for who we remember the character to be.

Keep Channing Tatum as DUKE !!!

I've never seen anything compelling with Channing Tatum (haven't seen 21 Jump Street so...), so I have zero issue with him being sidelined (however they do it).
And from a brand perspective, a shift in focus to a "leader Roadblock" team with Flint and Lady Jaye I think would do the brand some good, instead of regurgitating variations of the same half dozen characters like they have for the past 10 years.

Though I AM probably one of the 5 people who didn't mind Wayans' Ripcord (if anything, he was a highlight for RoC to me) and I'm disappointed that his character probably won't be addressed at all in the sequel.

[TheBigBad]

These reviews sound like it, at least in part, maybe it was an early draft.

[Franchisports]

I liked the way that Hasbro remade a lot of the older style vehicles, blue Firebat, ferret, armadillo, and then some newer higher tech looking things I use for Destro's army!!! Hover jet with some firefly/ gyroviper, night raven? Yeah right! I call it Destro's jet the semitar, hiss tank? Nope!!! Another Destro tracked tank like the demon or dominator!!! Thank you for making a movie that had no relation to connect Gi Joe to its real fans then allowing me to get all these at 67% to 75% off due to the fact nobody cared about these toys!!! Hasbro this is for you!!! Please somebody smart and important read this!!! Stop making electronic, wind up, or lights and sounds crap so people who have money and a lot to spend, MEN 30 to 40 years old who will buy a reminder of their youth when they walk down a toy aisle alone or with a son and buy a new different color rattler, real night raven, terror drome, or Flagg!!! I will be glad to consult on this!!! Throw a few ideas for you to look at... Get back to real Gi joe toys!!! Stop selling only a 1/3 at regular price then close out give away the rest!!! Really I would love to sit down with these people and tell them what would make me fork over my ca$h!!! You don't have to reinvent the wheel!!! Just put chrome on them!!!

[judd]

Ending #1: Through proper training, everyone turns into a ninja, even the dead Joes and Zartan and Destro and Baroness and Cobra Commander.

Ending #2: After washing out of training, all the remaining Joes and Cobras end up in the sewers, where they get some radioactive waste on them and turn into Turtles.

[Raysohood]

FYI!!!! Fake review. It is on good authority that I say Duke "DOES NOT DIE". That is all I can say about the matter. Take it for what it is. Bogus review.

Did You See the film already?

cause I really hope It involves Duke's Death. Hate Tatum all you want but Duke is still my character. if he dies in some stupid way with no justice I will be mad as hell. Tatum was actually good and hilarious 21 jump street so i don't hate him anymore. Plus If he does die my girl will refuse to see it with me lol.

[Bushmaster72]

To be fair to Chu, he had to fix a lot of problems. Tatum as Duke was one of them. Rex was another.

Honestly, if you went to see the first one, I can't imagine that Retaliation could be any worse. Actually, for that matter, if you went to see the first one, I can't imagine that you'd not be 100% behind the changes you just listed.

I feel for Chu on this. If he creates a flop he will be lambasted as being not the right director for this franchise and ridiculed for leaving his element(Step Up, Justin Beiber, etc.). However, the guy has not been given much room to work with because of the first movie and what has to be undone or fixed. If the movie would have been a reboot and Chu was given a fresh slate then it would've been much easier for him.

[Bushmaster72]

Why is everyone rooting for Duke (Channing Tatum) to die ? In my opinion he was not a bad choice for Duke. If we did not have to remember the crap known as the accelerator suits and bad writing because of the writers strike, I think that he would have been able to portray Duke for who we remember the character to be.

Keep Channing Tatum as DUKE !!!

The Duke hate from my own feelings is that he is not the Duke that we grew up with in the toys. The toy Duke was the all-American, midwesterner. The blonde-haired, blue-eyed, apple pie eating, baseball watching patriot. He was the grizzled enlisted man that worked up through the ranks and turned down a commission to be a leader on the battlefield. He couldn't do anything wrong and shit gold bricks imprinted with an American flag that smelled of roses and bubblegum.

The Duke in the movie was anthing but any of those and was totally unrecognizable as Duke. The same way that Wayans was unrecognizable as Ripcord and that Said wasn't Breaker. In fact only Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Scarlett and Baroness(somewhat) were recognizable.

[CG82]

They shouldve got Tony Scott to direct, he's good with mindless action movies and is competent enough with half decent script and cast. I think the Nest team from the lousy Transformers movies was more GI JOE-like than actual GI JOE team from the GI JOE movie.

Aaron Eckhart couldve pulled off Duke, he was basically that character from Battle Los Angeles. Although I think Sam Worthington wouldve been a good Duke.

[obiwanie]

The Duke hate from my own feelings is that he is not the Duke that we grew up with in the toys. He was the grizzled enlisted man that worked up through the ranks and turned down a commission to be a leader on the battlefield.

When roc came out I too had problems with Channing Tatum because he was not this image. But one thing changed over time, I came to accept him as Duke, same with Malon Wayans as Ripcord. Hasbro, crammed Channing Tatum as Duke down our throats ever since ROC when they listed the cast. Same with Marlon Wayons as Ripcord. They killed him off in Renegades after selling "new" Ripcord to us for just as long.

Hasbro missed the boat when they changed GI Joe from an American team to a multinational team. At it's core, GI Joe is about the characters (mostly American), and their ability to defeat COBRA no matter what. The characters all have their established histories that just needed to be brought up to date. Instead of Vietnam, use operation Iraqi Freedom or desert storm.

Hasbro, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. You have quality material that just has to be used.

[Lody]

The only ending that matters is one that ends with Channing get a bullet between his eyes

Everything else is just gravy

And a bonus

[haradrel]

The first reaction and review is bogus - it brings nothing new that can't be guessed from the trailers. I'm sorry but that's a complete fabrication.

[Tazocin]

wait. wait. wait. DUKE is going to DIE in GI JOE 2? oh no! i'd be devastated!

[Raysohood]

Someone on Imdb was at the screening said that he does die but people at the test screening were upset so he wouldn't be surprise if the different ending is saying duke is alive.

I hope they do. Recast duke but don't kill him off. wat a cop out.

[Hectoramirez]

or they could dub it and say he got out of being in a coma and is gonna make it. ala g.i.joe the movie.

[ChaplainAsst]

If Duke dies, that is fine. Even Larry H. would have loved to gotten rid of him. Roadblock was often the leader in both the comics and cartoon so I don't see an issue - and bringing in Colton allows him to be a "first shirt" and not an officer. I think it was genius to kill off in a big battle the Joe team to re-create it with new actors - leaving viewers of the first movie to assume Hawk, Ripcord, Scarlett, Heavy Duty and Breaker are dead. It will be interesting to hear how they deal with the Pit - will it even be mentioned or shown?

I still don't buy what we have heard. It would be quite unusual and even very daring to kill off a star - no matter how you feel about Channing Tatum - without a dramatic exit, which I don't see with him blowing up behind a humvee.

I think, regardless of the critical reaction, that this movie will be better for a number of reasons - not the least that they are dialing the movie back in terms of sci-fi and going closer to the mythos of GI Joe without adding unnecessary layers (ie. the international flavor, the strange CC mask and origin, the Baroness connection, the Ripcord-Scarlett affair, SE origin). I'm sure there will still be many deviations from the comics/cartoons/filecards but at least they are sliding this towards the heyday of GI Joe.

[DrKain]

I hate when they do two ending tests, people vote for the dumbest cop out ending. I Am Legend anyone? People voted for the terrible ending instead of going with the good ending just because the terrible ending gave them hope.

Point of my post, the ending to Retaliation is going to suck and be all happy go lucky.

[DrKain]

I am still the only person in the world pissed off that Marlon Wayans is not in GI JOE 2.

No, I'm mad to, because I wanted to see Marlon and Rachel die on screen!!!!!!