S.A.W. Viper vs. Cross Country GIJOE March Madness 2012

[DESTRO]

S.A.W. Viper vs. Cross Country GIJOE March Madness 2012

S.A.W. Viper - Cobra Heavy Machine Gunner

Cross Country

Cross Country's primary military specialty is armor, and his secondary military specialty is heavy equipment operator. His father was a bulldozer operator, and his mother drove a grader, therefore he had a natural affinity for heavy machinery, coupled with an uncanny sense of direction and fearlessness under fire. Cross Country is also the H.A.V.O.C. driver

Customs By HISSTANK.Com Boards Members Stronox and Badgunbo

[starbuck]

This is like trying to decide if you are going to take your sister or your cousin to the prom...

[RogueWingnut]

Cinderella story is over.
Lets go Saw Viper.

[DESTRO]

cinderella story is over.
Lets go saw viper.

this!^^^

[T J Bang]

Cross Country!!

F the troop builders in the A!!

[atatcommander]

Lets him mow down that country hick just like he did all the actual good Joes. GO SAW!!!!

[sbartek1974]

This is like trying to decide if you are going to take your sister or your cousin to the prom...

Yeah, but I'd have to stick with my cousin. She's less likely to tell anyone what happened afterwards.

[UMAN]

Cross Country doesn't stand a chance here.

[Beckley]

Saw!

[infinitefilms]

Go Cross Country, you can Win!!!

[G.I. Smurf]

I knew Cross Country would lose this one. But I'm glad he made it to the end.

[TheDarkTabby]

I am really surprised these two are the final choices. I was expecting a much different outcome. Having said that I voted CC.

[07GT500 COBRA]

I've gotta go with early era ARAH on this one.

Cross Country.

[youdoitimbusy]

I refuse to vote. I look at the final 2 contestants and wonder how many people would of voted for these if a standard figure was posted instead of a custom. In my opinion the customs are great. The "actual figures are garbage" and I could care less if ether of them are made. I feel this so called democratic process has been compromised by not posting the actual figure to be voted for. I DECLARE SHENANIGANS!!!

or maybe im just bitter that Salvo is not here

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

Cross Country FTW!!!

[VideoViper]

Next year lets not put the fractions/groups togeather so we can get a better competion.

I vote Zombie Doc for bloody revenge against SAW Viper.

[rdodger]

SAW Viper is just too cool. That being said, I too am surprised that these two made it to the final.

[rdodger]

I vote Zombie Doc for bloody revenge against SAW Viper.

That. Would. Be. Awesome!

[MJjoe4life]

SAW Viper for the kill!!!!!!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Saw Viper is so going to slaughter this looser..! how the heck did Cross Coutnry get to the final? thats just some terrible voting right there lol...GOOO SAW VIPER!

[Tanksmasher]

I'm just afraid if Hasbro makes SAW Viper, he'll turn out more pink than red. I don't think he'll look as good as the custom, so I'm going with CC.

[mrcobra]

Saw Viper COBRA!!!!!!!!

[skinny]

there are customs in these threads? didnt notice. had no impact on any of my votes.

[245am]

I had 2 brackets, my "who do I think will win" and "who do I want to win." Cross Country was my champ in the later! Not even that big of a CC fan, but damnit, modern interpretatons of ARAH Joes is what got me into this hobby, and I go for the individual characters over troop builders, so GO CC!

[245am]

there are customs in these threads? didnt notice. had no impact on any of my votes.

not sure if serious...

[drunknmunky]

Cross Country is one of the worst looking figures ever. Seriously in the vintage line he's as bad as Armadillo and Wild Card. No clue how CC has gotten this far. Make mine Saw Viper.

[bandonov]

This is like trying to decide if you are going to take your sister or your cousin to the prom...

Winning!

[Cloud Strife]

If Hasbro can give me a Cross Country like the one Badgumbo made, then Cross Country. No doubt about it.

[minstrelboy]

I hate Cross Country.

[RolandofGilead]

Love Cross Country, but I voted for SAW Viper because he killed guys and stuff.

[Cobra Terrorist]

S.A.W. Viper

[Jettfire]

S.A.W. Viper has a history of being able to put down Joe drivers. Doesn't look good for Cross Country, but I voted or him regardless.

[vhjay]

Cross Country FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Troops of Doom]

SAW-Viper. The only reason I voted for Cross Country before was because he was up against Pythona.

[ilzuccone]

I think saw viper is winning just because that custom looks amazing.

[Serpymatt]

I had to vote for the country boy... for my wife and because we'll always get army builders.

[poddie]

I'm pretty stunned that I have to choose between these two. No particular interest in ether.

I also find it odd that the pictures used are of customs. Wouldn't it make more sense to use the vintage pictures, as this is what Hasbro would be basing their design off of? I get that these show "here is what this could look like", but it does seem like the better customs would unfairly skew the voting.

Oh well, here's hoping Hasbro ignores this poll and makes a Pythona as an exclusive at some point!

[VideoViper]

I also find it odd that the pictures used are of customs. Wouldn't it make more sense to use the vintage pictures, as this is what Hasbro would be basing their design off of? I get that these show "here is what this could look like", but it does seem like the better customs would unfairly skew the voting.

In order to qualify for March madness, Someone has to make a custom of the figure (to show that there is interest in this figure being produced.) That's why they are showing ME customs.

[ero]

Cross country!!!

[Ripcord]

I went with Cross Country.

[Xenos]

I'd like to have both of them, but they are both far from my most wanted figures. This March Madness went south for me pretty quickly.

[Godzilla]

Go Cross Country !

[youdoitimbusy]

I'm pretty stunned that I have to choose between these two. No particular interest in ether.

I also find it odd that the pictures used are of customs. Wouldn't it make more sense to use the vintage pictures, as this is what Hasbro would be basing their design off of? I get that these show "here is what this could look like", but it does seem like the better customs would unfairly skew the voting.

Oh well, here's hoping Hasbro ignores this poll and makes a Pythona as an exclusive at some point!

at least im not the only one that had this feeling

[skinny]

not sure if serious...
half serious, honestly the customs had no impact on my vote well crafted and awesome as they may be. heck I didnt even need a filecard or pic. A name is more than sufficient. and if you didnt know the name...its the internet look it up.

[england joe]

Both are good figures an its difficult to choose

[fireflyguy]

This is like trying to decide if you are going to take your sister or your cousin to the prom...

Where's the "like" button here?!?

[robojoe]

I'm gonna have to go with Saw Viper here.

[EduardimusPrime]

Saw viper... Hands down. Always thought cross country was a lame concept.

[ero]

Saw viper... Hands down. Always thought cross country was a lame concept.

Killing me Ed!

[Night Viper 143]

I am really surprised these two are the final choices. I was expecting a much different outcome. Having said that I voted CC.

I'm just afraid if Hasbro makes SAW Viper, he'll turn out more pink than red. I don't think he'll look as good as the custom, so I'm going with CC.

I had 2 brackets, my "who do I think will win" and "who do I want to win." Cross Country was my champ in the later! Not even that big of a CC fan, but damnit, modern interpretatons of ARAH Joes is what got me into this hobby, and I go for the individual characters over troop builders, so GO CC!

Both are good figures an its difficult to choose


I voted SAW Viper, but that's before I read all you guys posts. I didn't even know Cobra Commander was an option. How do I change my vote?

[Raw Dog]

I picked Cross Country because I think Hasbro will make a SAW Viper figure eventually, with out in put from an online forum about toys that is mostly used by adults (I think?) and winning a poll like this is likely Classic Cross Country's best chance of getting made. Does that make sense? I hope so, because otherwise I may be slightly insane!

[Superjoe74]

Cross Country was a cool figure but, like most Joes in Sunbow his character was something of a dweeb. Nevertheless, I voted Cross Country.

I have to wonder how of all the characters did it come down to these two? I think this poll is rigged.

Maybe, I will register under a different name and vote again too..

[CrimsonGuard101]

Looks like Cross Country has been mortally wounded in this poll and is tapping out....someone get him a waaaammbuulaaaancee lol.....

[Raw Dog]

I know, right? I can see why though. I mean a lot of people really want a SAW Viper figure. I want one too, and will get one if Hasbro makes one but voted for Cross Country because I think this poll is his best chance of getting made.

[Superjoe74]

This poll is as crazy as Channing Tatum trying to be Duke- I don't care what Joeverse you are living in this sh*t can't be real. rflmao

[RolandofGilead]

Isn't there someone named Cross Country in the Retaliation? If that's the case, an ARAH likeness isn't too unlikely.

[Night_Force_GI_EDDO]

I voted for cross country. I like troop builders, don't get me wrong, but i like individual characters too. the individual characters are what made the cartoon so good....and the cartoon is what got me hooked on gi joe. So....go cross country!!!

[wormser]

wow. these are the 2 that got the votes? over raptor???

[RolandofGilead]

I'm sure your sig didn't help Raptors chances much either. :D

[ero]

Ugh, this is depressing. Cross Country is getting smoked!

[Ford]

SAW Viper deserves the win. Both as the troop builder, and the unique character that wiped out a bunch of Joes. Other than Scar Face, he's the only guy in Cobra that came up through the ranks.

The only way I'd like to see a Cross Country figure, is if it were just a lump of plastic with no articulation at all. Just so I can read the complaints about it.

Now that I think about it, how did the SAW Viper not do us all a favor and shoot Cross Country while he was at it? I'd much rather have Breaker or Quick Kick have lived than that cornpone hick.

[wormser]

I'm sure your sig didn't help Raptors chances much either. :D

i dont know. it shows him in the most awesome state he could ever be in.

[HobbyHobbs]

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7599/votedxc.jpg

[Still Wind]

SAW Viper all the way baby!!!! Cobra!!!!!!

[Sniper Viper]

Maybe Hasbro could release both in 7 packs - one with drivers & the other with 89-91 era vipers; I'd be down for both, with multiples of the latter

[Superjoe74]

I once thought the HissTank was a fun and informative forum, full of original and intelligent ideas by creative minds...

Now, I have to wonder- at least about the intelligence of whomever counted these votes because whomever counted the votes must have counted wrong. You expect us to believe the polls came down to Cross Country and the Viper person thing? C'mon really?

[rip_cord]

c'mon Cross Country!!!

[Scroll142]

Single figure 'Saw Viper'

35th reissue vehicle 'HAVOC' w/ Cross Country

... i mean COME ON!

[Scroll142]

ps. i was vote 142 for Saw Viper... destiny!

[Sumita]

Cross country!!!

[camper]

I voted X Country, but I'd buy only 2 or 3 at retail. I'd army build 5 SAW Vipers.

[jimsloth]

I had Cross Country as a kid, and I never liked him. I loved the havoc and had no idea why it came with such an awful looking fig. All of my Cobra vehicals came with sweet drivers. Why couldn't the Havok? Did they waist all the awesome on the tank with a freakin' hovercraft in the back?

I don't army build but I'd def. buy Saw viper. I wouldn't pay a dollar for a clearance 30th Cross Country. Not even to rip him apart.

[Money-B]

This thing is closer than it should be.
S.A.W. Viper for the KILL!!

[Loose Cannon]

Can't decide. I like both characters, but hated both figures. They were terrible. The 2nd version of both was way better, and with modern Articulation they could both look decent. I'm just afraid the color schemes will remain too true to the originals.

Pink Lavender and Magenta are just terrible colors for any figure. Not to mention the skinny little figure with a gun that's so big he can't hold it. (DTC SAW-Viper was way way better!)

Then there is Cross-Country. Any figure with white and orange who isn't a snow trooper named Snow Job looks silly. Then there is the confederate Cap or Rebel Flag on his jacket/belt buckle.

My hope is they make both, and put CC in a new vehicle of some kind, and make the Overkill version of the SAW-Viper as well.

[Hellion42]

Next year lets not put the fractions/groups togeather so we can get a better competion.


A thousand times this.

[In Like Flint]

Cross Country would run his ass over with the H.A.V.O.C.

[ero]

Cross Country would run his ass over with the H.A.V.O.C.

Hellz yeah! With some of that "fightin' music" blaring from his stereo!

[ChaplainAsst]

Didn't Cross Country survive his encounter with the SAW Viper? Heck, he even inflicted some damage when they commandeered the Mobile Battle Bunker. In the end, it is a draw between the two - but you have to give Cross Country a lot of credit for a driver taking on Cobra's most decorated troop.

[nutcase65]

Didn't Cross Country survive his encounter with the SAW Viper? Heck, he even inflicted some damage when they commandeered the Mobile Battle Bunker. In the end, it is a draw between the two - but you have to give Cross Country a lot of credit for a driver taking on Cobra's most decorated troop.

SAW sent Cross Country, Duke AND Falcon running for the hills with their tails between their legs, after bringing one of the most memorable gijoe comic book moments. Everyone who read the books remembers who drew major Joe blood! GO SAW!

[G.I. Smurf]

Cross country by a mile. He even beat Storm Shadow in "Into your tent I will silently creep."
But anyway, for those who are Cross Country fans I put up my old dio story featuring him and Wild Bill. It's 5 years old btu still fun to read imo.

http://j-h.yolasite.com/bios.php

[CrimsonGuard101]

Shao Khan says "Saw Viper!...FINISH HIM!" he is a weak....pathetic ...fool!...is that his best! RUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[eddy-arashikage]

There is no corruption here I just think the format may need a little tweak but besides that its still been fun!!

Too many people are complaining for there not to be some sort of trouble with how this turned out!

[sbartek1974]

So this thread has 1,973 views but only 296 votes?

[wormser]

So this thread has 1,973 views but only 296 votes?

cause people are on the fence about who they hate less. besides, i voted once but have visited the thread like 5 times. just cause it has 1973 views doesnt mean it was a different 1973 members that viewed it

[245am]

There is no corruption here I just think the format may need a little tweak but besides that its still been fun!!

Too many people are complaining for there not to be some sort of trouble with how this turned out!

Agreed; I really enjoy the tournament and this seems to be becoming an annual big event for the 'tank. It would be nice to see a forum for feedback on tweaking the seedings, etc for next year.

[Jettfire]

There is no corruption here I just think the format may need a little tweak but besides that its still been fun!!

Too many people are complaining for there not to be some sort of trouble with how this turned out!

I disagree. If I had to guess, I'd say that most folks who don't have a problem with it are less likely to post that sentiment than those who feel the process is worth complaining about.

Another thing to consider is, a vast majority of the figures that folks would want to see made already have been. So we're essentially voting for lower tiered characters, anyway.

At the end of the day, the final two were determined by votes. If anyone else is upset with the results of a competition basically created for the fun of it, the problem is with the Tankers who voted.

[Jettfire]

cause people are on the fence about who they hate less.

There might be some truth to this. After the 25th, RoC, PoC, and the 30th, this is kinda who we're left to decide over.

Of course there are always going to be exceptions, and every character is someone's favorite somewhere. There are an easy dozen characters I like more than Cross Country, but that's how this is played.

[G.I. Smurf]

I disagree. If I had to guess, I'd say that most folks who don't have a problem with it are less likely to post that sentiment than those who feel the process is worth complaining about.

Another thing to consider is, a vast majority of the figures that folks would want to see made already have been. So we're essentially voting for lower tiered characters, anyway.

At the end of the day, the final two were determined by votes. If anyone else is upset with the results of a competition basically created for the fun of it, the problem is with the Tankers who voted.

Perfection in perfect sense making. In other words, exactly.

[ero]

There is no corruption here I just think the format may need a little tweak but besides that its still been fun!

I disagree. If I had to guess, I'd say that most folks who don't have a problem with it are less likely to post that sentiment than those who feel the process is worth complaining about.

I think the problem, as stated before, is that the choices were grouped by faction. I thought the original idea was that they were tallying the number of times each character was mentioned in that initial thread and then would place them accordingly like a normal bracket.

But yeah, I mean, it's all fun. I just think the results would have been a lot different had it been arranged in a more traditional way.

Another thing to consider is, a vast majority of the figures that folks would want to see made already have been. So we're essentially voting for lower tiered characters, anyway.

I dunno, I think there are quite a few heavy hitters left. To me, S.A.W. Viper is the low tier, so I guess it's a matter of perspective. But in my mind, anyone from 82-86 and the 87' movie that hasn't been made is sorely missed.

[jpdraven]

This is like trying to decide if you are going to take your sister or your cousin to the prom...

OK that's so wrong on so many levels lol

[Xsoldier]

This made me wonder. If Hasbro made Cross Country. Would they still put the Confederate Flag on his belt?

[SkullBuster]

go cross country, you can win!!!

cross country ftw!!!

cross country ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cross country!!!

i went with cross country.

go cross country !

ugh, this is depressing. Cross country is getting smoked!

c'mon cross country!!!

cross country!!!

cross country would run his ass over with the h.a.v.o.c.

hellz yeah! With some of that "fightin' music" blaring from his stereo!

^^^cross country!!!!

[ShockVal]

Who the hell is Crossed Cuntry? Is that Richie Cuntingham? Sheeez I hate voting for Cobra.

[sbartek1974]

cause people are on the fence about who they hate less. besides, i voted once but have visited the thread like 5 times. just cause it has 1973 views doesnt mean it was a different 1973 members that viewed it

My point is that that's a large no vote to vote ratio. With 2232 views I'd figure there would be closer to 1000 votes already. I can understand about being on the fence but these are freakin toys we're voting on!!! Flip a coin, geez!

[ero]

This made me wonder. If Hasbro made Cross Country. Would they still put the Confederate Flag on his belt?

I think everybody's wondering that. I think if Hasbro puts it out at retail, then certainly not. If they give it to the club, then I could see it happening.

^^^cross country!!!!

Not looking good, my friend. Although how funny is it that I feel like he's rallying because he's finally holding above 40 percent? :D

Flip a coin, geez!

lol

I actually skipped a few face-offs just because I didn't want to add to anybody's momentum (looking at you, S.A.W. Viper). Lotta good that did.

[CrimsonGuard101]

My point is that that's a large no vote to vote ratio. With 2232 views I'd figure there would be closer to 1000 votes already. I can understand about being on the fence but these are freakin toys we're voting on!!! Flip a coin, geez!

Ya knwo, just the casual reader who happens upon a thread. Kinda like the cusotms thread, a lot of lookers, not many posters. Just ebcaus ea thread ha sa huge amount of views dosent mean there is a huge amount of participation. A lot of people do not care. I bet theres only like 10-14% of us who actually post anything at all every day lol..

[war009]

Saw viper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DESTRO]

So does everybody feel a little better now that we are getting the Oktober Guard?

[nighthawk]

Just make sure Cross Country gets to use the Havoc and he'll just run over the SAW Viper since he's so laden with equipment that he can't run to get out of the way.

[floyd74fox]

Saw Viper is stupid to me. Want more of the ARAH figures.

[Greaser]

I think we have a better chance of Seeing a SAW viper reissue as part of the regular line, or at least something of an homage to him. I dont see a Cross Country getting made with out this kind of request.

[Superjoe74]

So does everybody feel a little better now that we are getting the Oktober Guard?

Yes.

[CrimsonGuard101]

So does everybody feel a little better now that we are getting the Oktober Guard?

Yes!...

SO this can now end, Saw Viper wins! And Cross Country...your outta here! Better luck next millinium...

[G.I. Smurf]

If Hasbro does pay attention to this, which they should seeing as how it's what the fans want. Then not only will we get a Saw Viper sometime next year, but I bet we do the runner up as well.

[cobracommander1]

Cross Country is Dead.

[fireflyguy]

I'm so glad to see the SAW viper winning! I still can't believe that cross country made it this far.

[G.I. Smurf]

Cross Country is Dead.

saw Viper is dead too. He became Overkill.

[Squibbles]

As a joe fan I am excited for any new figure we can get, as a joe fan I am kind of sad that out of so many great choices this is really are final two. And its not that I am not for these figures, for years i have heard fans beg and cry for hasbro to make certain figures, then in this experiment they get blown away. Just makes me not sure what anyone wants... witht that said, I still dont know who i am voting for. lol

[FlintnLadyJaye]

Cross Country doesn't stand a chance, looks like the SAW Viper will finally do what he couldn't in Behnzeen!

[cobracommander1]

I do not remember ever seeing the final result of this. Was there ever a conclusion?