is Roadblock a ninja in Retaliation

[Hard-master]

does anyone know if Roadblock is a ninja in Retaliation, it looks like he is if the figure from the ninja pack is anything to go by, though i hope he isn't

[Monkeywrench]

based on the toys... They are ALL ninja's, even the Vehicles

[Derek2783]

lol, I sure hope not. Although apparently in Retaliation he can throw down with Snake-Eyes and win. Kind of annoying that they'd capitulate to the Rock like that, but eh. As long as the movie's good, I'm ok with it. Not happy, but ok with it. :D

[crock master]

you have to read the retaliation comics that came out today for that answer.
i literally just read it.
i know people get all pissy, so no spoilers here from me

[CrimsonGuard101]

Yes he is a Battle Katta Master, thats like 4 degrees higher then black belt and puts him right at the same skill as Hard and Soft Master.

Also beware the Battle Katta ninja vehicles...they are even more skilled...and will throwdow just about anyone...including Norse gods from alternate dimensions and Big green hulking monstrosities...

[Akunin]

He trained under snake eyes.

[Hard-master]

lol, I sure hope not. Although apparently in Retaliation he can throw down with Snake-Eyes and win. Kind of annoying that they'd capitulate to the Rock like that, but eh. As long as the movie's good, I'm ok with it. Not happy, but ok with it. :D

Roadblock is a heavy gunner and a cook so i hope thats all he is, if hes a ninja and can beat Snake Eyes there really is no reason for Snake Eyes to be in the movie

[Troynos]

I haven't read the prequel yet so don't know the extent of it, but Snake Eyes trained Roadblock so he is some kind of "ninja commando".

[The Batman]

Dear gawd... really? This is some utter bullshit. We can't just have an ordinary badass with a 50 cal machine gun and can blow up stuff. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... let's make him a ninja too! That is so much cooler!

I do not know what the big deal is about ninjas... but the more of those damn things Hasbro feeds us.. the more I am starting to hate them.

Roadblock is a ninja. Some serious BS on Hasblow's part.

[crock master]

snake eys just refered him to blind master

[Troynos]

If you don't like ninjas, probably won't want to watch Retaliation.

[RolandofGilead]

I don't really care what the movie does, but what I've decided in my own mind is that Roadblock has a history with Snake Eyes, that at some point he received some Ninja training. However, I won't consider him a "ninja." Just a heavy ordinance expert who happens to know some Arashikage techniques.

[CrimsonGuard101]

If you don't like ninjas, probably won't want to watch Retaliation.

Thats not true, it has a love scene between lady jay and DJ Flint..and some clips of some battle scenes with some weapons...Once i hear Willis is a ninja and sporting an Arsihikage Tatt...then maybe we can hitt he panic button...

[gunslingercbr]

oh no! Roadblock may know martial arts and be highly skilled at it! what a complete reinvention of the character!

screw you John Chu!

[Jmacq1]

I doubt he's a full-fledged Ninja so much as he's been trained in one particular Ninja technique (this "Battle Kata" thing).

[07GT500 COBRA]

The ARAH filecards list Snake Eye's secondary military specialty as a "hand-to-hand combat instructor". Snake Eyes training Roadblock and other Joes is not out of canon and I doubt they make RB an actual ninja. Calm down people.

[CrimsonGuard101]

The ARAH filecards list Snake Eye's secondary military specialty as a "hand-to-hand combat instructor". Snake Eyes training Roadblock and other Joes is not out of canon and I doubt they make RB an actual ninja. Calm down people.

But he has an arsikage tatt...that makes him one of the "in" guys in the clan...

[gunslingercbr]

the arah filecards list snake eye's secondary military specialty as a "hand-to-hand combat instructor". Snake eyes training roadblock and other joes is not out of canon and i doubt they make rb an actual ninja. Calm down people.

what do you mean calm down!?! The only knife techniques roadblock should know is how to filet an MRE!!!!

I am tired of this complete reinvention of characters for movies!!!!! Just stick to exactly and only the details that the characters embodied when their filecards were first written!!! How hard is that to do?!?

[Jmacq1]

Does he have the Tat in the movie? Or just on some of the figures?

[gunslingercbr]

Does he have the Tat in the movie? Or just on some of the figures?
who cares!?!

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattel!!!!

[Raw Dog]

Lol, I guess we'll have to wait for the movie to find out for sure, but I don't think he is. I think I heard somewhere that he trained with Snake Eyes, so maybe that is why he has that ninja symbol. It looks to me like a lot of the new Joe movie stuff has that symbol though so maybe it's more of a Joe symbol kind of like the Cobra symbol for the movie toys, though I don't know for sure and have nothing but my thoughts to back up my claim.

[Troynos]

The NINJA combat cruiser has the symbol. The NINJA ATV has it as well.

Roadblocks been ninjified.

But remember, the Rock just picked a codename from a list given to him. The character, as written, wasn't the cartoon or comic Roadblock.

[Kitchen Viper]

Does he have the Tat in the movie? Or just on some of the figures?

LOL!!! :D

I dunno, I'm leaning toward RB being an all-around badass who picked up a few ninja tricks from SE. long as he's not running around dressed like the "Ask a Ninja" guy,I think it'll be okay...

[CrimsonGuard101]

who cares!?!

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattelblo!!!!

fixed that fer ya...welcome

[Steelgrave]

I do not know what the big deal is about ninjas... but the more of those damn things Hasbro feeds us.. the more I am starting to hate them.


Totally agree^

[Jmacq1]

LOL!!! :D

I dunno, I'm leaning toward RB being an all-around badass who picked up a few ninja tricks from SE. long as he's not running around dressed like the "Ask a Ninja" guy,I think it'll be okay...

Yeah, he'll pull out some martial arts moves but I doubt he's gonna be putting on a mask, swinging a sword and running across rooftops with SE and Jinx.

[crock master]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e205/picklis/P1290161.jpg

[Kitchen Viper]

But remember, the Rock just picked a codename from a list given to him. The character, as written, wasn't the cartoon or comic Roadblock.

From what I understand the Rock picked Roadblock because he liked the CHARACTER of Roadblock. It wouldn't surprise me if the character were originally scripted as a generic Joe character, but I'm sure they put more of his personality in during filming. We'll see...

[Hard-master]

i have high hope for Retaliation and i'm ok with Snake Eyes training Roadblock, but it would ruin it if hes a ninja or beats Snake Eyes in a fight, and i wouldn't know why they would fight each other anyway

[Steelgrave]

Mattelblo!!!!

Totally agree^

[gunslingercbr]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e205/picklis/Video600001-19.jpg

is there something of significance in that blurry pic that we are supposed to be able to read?

[cobracobra]

Jeez guys dont ya'll know that Road Block is Hard Masters son? I thought this was general knowledge. We find out that Road Block was a cook for the Ashikarge clan and didn't receive all the training that Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes did.
Spoiler alert. Road Block and the new Cobra Commander are the same person.

[07GT500 COBRA]

But he has an arsikage tatt...that makes him one of the "in" guys in the clan...

It's not a tat, it's on his shirt. It might just be an Arashikage Temple visitor's pass. Or maybe he was visiting and forgot to pack enough underwear and the Blind Master laoned him his.

[Raw Dog]

I like ninjas, they are awesome. I also hope Roadblock delivers a Rock Bottom and or a People's Elbow in the movie because I think that would be cool.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Jeez guys dont ya'll know that Road Block is Hard Masters son? I thought this was general knowledge. We find out that Road Block was a cook for the Ashikarge clan and didn't receive all the training that Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes did.
Spoiler alert. Road Block and the new Cobra Commander are the same person.

Roadblock was taught the 10th step....Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes are gonna cry now...

[cobracobra]

Second the usage of wrestling moves during the movie.

[Darth Awgmon]

...But remember, the Rock just picked a codename from a list given to him. The character, as written, wasn't the cartoon or comic Roadblock.

Come on, man. This is bullshit. The character is obviously based on the Roadblock we know. It's an interpretation of the classic character that fits in with the movie. It's not like The Rock could have picked the codename "Shipwreck," and we would have ended up with the same movie character, just with a different name.

[Raw Dog]

Jeez guys dont ya'll know that Road Block is Hard Masters son? I thought this was general knowledge. We find out that Road Block was a cook for the Ashikarge clan and didn't receive all the training that Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes did.
Spoiler alert. Road Block and the new Cobra Commander are the same person.

Lol, okay, cool, it all makes sense now! But I think he looks more like the Blind Master though! Get it? Lol!

[RolandofGilead]

Jeez guys dont ya'll know that Road Block is Hard Masters son? I thought this was general knowledge. We find out that Road Block was a cook for the Ashikarge clan and didn't receive all the training that Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes did.
Spoiler alert. Road Block and the new Cobra Commander are the same person.

This sounds just like something Hama would have done in the ARAH days. I don't have a problem with it.


I like ninjas, they are awesome. I also hope Roadblock delivers a Rock Bottom and or a People's Elbow in the movie because I think that would be cool.

QFT!

[CrimsonGuard101]

It's not a tat, it's on his shirt. It might just be an Arashikage Temple visitor's pass. Or maybe he was visiting and forgot to pack enough underwear and the Blind Master laoned him his.

Well see in the movie. The figure dosent count cause everythign has the tatt for the joe toys lol...if they show the rock with that tatt on his skin in the movie...its ova

[Cloud Strife]

Everyone is a ninja now. Even Cobra Commander.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Everyone is a ninja now. Even Cobra Commander.

And they were all King Fu fighting! I hope they play that song at some point lol it will be so over the top cheez

[Troynos]

Come on, man. This is bullshit. The character is obviously based on the Roadblock we know. It's an interpretation of the classic character that fits in with the movie. It's not like The Rock could have picked the codename "Shipwreck," and we would have ended up with the same movie character, just with a different name.

Sorry, it's been stated that Rock picked the codename from a list.


The list was probably compiled by Hasbro based on the Rock and what the script called for in the character.

But there were other names available.

[Hard-master]

i guess we'll have to wait for the movie, as the figures are not accurite enough to go by, Roadblock figure doesn't have the other tattoo he's meant to

[togo26]

Why do I have a horrible feeling that the premise for the movie will boil down to: GI Joe gets wiped out, Cobra takes over the country, the 5 remaining Joes run off to Arashikage-land to discover their inner-ninja, the new Ninja Joes return and beat Cobra, the end.
Wait, wasn't that the premise of the "mighty morphin power rangers" movie?
John Chu said he was basing the movie on ARAH, could it be the later ARAH era where every freakin charachter and their brother was a ninja?

[RolandofGilead]

I would love to know the other options on that list. Would it have changed the story much at that point?

*The Rock as Shipwreck: I can accept that he's a ninja too, but I'm not sure the Rock would like having a talking parrot on his shoulder through the whole film.

*The Rock as Wild Bill: Wild Bill cannot be a ninja, but I'm sure Dwayne would look good with the hat and mustache.

*The Rock as Beach Head: It could work, but no way he's wearing a mask.

*The Rock as Bill, Cobra Commander's son: Um, no.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Why do I have a horrible feeling that the premise for the movie will boil down to: GI Joe gets wiped out, Cobra takes over the country, the 5 remaining Joes run off to Arashikage-land to discover their inner-ninja, the new Ninja Joes return and beat Cobra, the end.
Wait, wasn't that the premise of the "mighty morphin power rangers" movie?
John Chu said he was basing the movie on ARAH, could it be the ARAH where every freakin charachter and there brother was a ninja?

Yeah its the prep for the Power Ranger vs. GI JOE cross over franchise...

[togo26]

Yeah its the prep for the Power Ranger vs. GI JOE cross over franchise...

Awsome! first a power rangers/masked rider crossover, now this! Geek heaven!

[Troynos]

I would love to know the other options on that list. Would it have changed the story much at that point?

*The Rock as Shipwreck: I can accept that he's a ninja too, but I'm not sure the Rock would like having a talking parrot on his shoulder through the whole film.

*The Rock as Wild Bill: Wild Bill cannot be a ninja, but I'm sure Dwayne would look good with the hat and mustache.

*The Rock as Beach Head: It could work, but no way he's wearing a mask.

*The Rock as Bill, Cobra Commander's son: Um, no.

Can't really apply ARAH characteristics to Retaliation characters.


Chances are it's any codename (except Heavy Duty obviously) that would fit the Rock's character in Retaliation:

-big
-heavy weapons
-charismatic
-athletic

Roadblock, Gung-Ho, Double Blast, Salvo, Backblast, Hardball possibly.

And really, if take race into account and Heavy Duty off the list, there really wouldn't be that many codenames that would fit the Rock.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Can't really apply ARAH characteristics to Retaliation characters.


Chances are it's any codename (except Heavy Duty obviously) that would fit the Rock's character in Retaliation:

-big
-heavy weapons
-charismatic
-athletic

Roadblock, Gung-Ho, Double Blast, Salvo, Backblast, Hardball possibly.

And really, if take race into account and Heavy Duty off the list, there really wouldn't be that many codenames that would fit the Rock.

Ice Creme Soldier he would have jumped on though after that Fairy movie he was in lol...

[Firefly77]

What's the big deal? I remember the scene in the previews showing Roadblock using karate. Wait, no I don't. Hmm. What about the scene where he's using a katana, that was cool. Wait, no it wasn't because I never saw that scene. The comic, have we seen him using ninja skills there? I haven't, but then again I only read the first one and not todays.

As to the movie previews, I guess I did see him using a heavy support weapon in a couple of the scenes. Is that a deal breaker?

Again, what's the big deal? The symbol? Is that the problem?

[Monkeywrench]

Everyone is a ninja now. Even Cobra Commander.

He trained Storm Shadow... duh!

[drunknmunky]

Jeez guys dont ya'll know that Road Block is Hard Masters son? I thought this was general knowledge. We find out that Road Block was a cook for the Ashikarge clan and didn't receive all the training that Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes .

That makes perfect sense. Remember when Storm Shadow met Snake Eyes he was cooking. So obviously the Arashikage are great chefs. That's where Roadblock studied the martial and culinary arts. Add to that the fact that The Rock's catch phase was ” do you smell what the Rock is cooking?” and the story damn near writes itself!

[CrimsonGuard101]

That makes perfect sense. Remember when Storm Shadow met Snake Eyes he was cooking. So obviously the Arashikage are great chefs. That's where Roadblock studied the martial and culinary arts. Add to that the fact that The Rock's catch phase was ” do you smell what the Rock is cooking?” and the story damn near writes itself!

Damn Arsihikage Temple is becoming Professor Xaviers School for the ungifted Ninjas...

[ShadowNinja]

Maybe he just trained there to learn some advanced hand to hand fighting techniques or how to relax your mind for a oncoming fight. If they have a dojo it would make since to have their symbols on their gi's, uniforms, training gear, whatever. However, I cant picture a ninja clan that is suppose to be secret having something like that but it is a movie about a 80's cartoon.

[Derek2783]

Again, what's the big deal? The symbol? Is that the problem?

Well, there' isn't a big deal ...yet, just a lot of speculation. We want to know if Roadblock is a ninja or not. That's a legitimate question, given the overly-ninja focus going on.

As for me, look, I love ninjas. I love ninjas in GI Joe. I love ninjas being the main focus of GI Joe. I do not love the idea of the big, black, heavy gunner also being a ninja.

Trained in hand-to-hand combat by SE? Great. Taught Arashikage techniques? Awesome. A member of the Arashikage clan? No. Able to defeat Snake-Eyes? WTF. It's Snake-Eyes, Batman, Wolverine. In that order. (Ok, joking about that, it's obviously Batman, Wolverine, Snake-Eyes. But you get my point. Snake-Eyes is a badass of the highest caliber!)

Overall though, no one is hitting the panic button or over-reacting yet, we're just wondering why Roadblock has an Arashikage tat on his shirt. 'Cause that don't make no sense.

[CrimsonGuard101]

shirt. 'Cause that don't make no sense.

Well it makes more sense the the VAMP with the Arishikage Symbol KC light accesories....

[Firefly77]

I have a hard time believing they just showed a list of codenames to Dwane Johnson and asked him to choose. That smacks of the absurd. Does anyone really believe that they would handle casting that way? Really?

[Derek2783]

Damn Arsihikage Temple is becoming Professor Xaviers School for the ungifted Ninjas...

lol.

[revsears]

oh no! Roadblock may know martial arts and be highly skilled at it! what a complete reinvention of the character!

STAFF EDIT

screw you John Chu!
why bring racism into this?

This is another one of your "great" and "friendly" comments.

That is a change to the character, some won't like it. Because they have opinions differing to yours you leap to racism? inexcusable.

[Firefly77]

Well, there' isn't a big deal ...yet, just a lot of speculation. We want to know if Roadblock is a ninja or not. That's a legitimate question, given the overly-ninja focus going on.

As for me, look, I love ninjas. I love ninjas in GI Joe. I love ninjas being the main focus of GI Joe. I do not love the idea of the big, black, heavy gunner also being a ninja.

Trained in hand-to-hand combat by SE? Great. Taught Arashikage techniques? Awesome. A member of the Arashikage clan? No. Able to defeat Snake-Eyes? WTF. It's Snake-Eyes, Batman, Wolverine. In that order. (Ok, joking about that, it's obviously Batman, Wolverine, Snake-Eyes. But you get my point. Snake-Eyes is a badass of the highest caliber!)

Overall though, no one is hitting the panic button or over-reacting yet, we're just wondering why Roadblock has an Arashikage tat on his shirt. 'Cause that don't make no sense.

So the symbol is the problem, albeit a minor one. Other than the figure, I've yet to see any indication that Roadblock is now ninja. I suppose that I'm in the camp that would speculate that he has had some basic training but really, for all I know, he's just a big fan of the clan.

NOT THAT CLAN!

You know what I'm talking about. The foot clan, obviously.

[revsears]

Well, there' isn't a big deal ...yet, just a lot of speculation. We want to know if Roadblock is a ninja or not. That's a legitimate question, given the overly-ninja focus going on.

As for me, look, I love ninjas. I love ninjas in GI Joe. I love ninjas being the main focus of GI Joe. I do not love the idea of the big, black, heavy gunner also being a ninja.

Trained in hand-to-hand combat by SE? Great. Taught Arashikage techniques? Awesome. A member of the Arashikage clan? No. Able to defeat Snake-Eyes? WTF. It's Snake-Eyes, Batman, Wolverine. In that order. (Ok, joking about that, it's obviously Batman, Wolverine, Snake-Eyes. But you get my point. Snake-Eyes is a badass of the highest caliber!)

Overall though, no one is hitting the panic button or over-reacting yet, we're just wondering why Roadblock has an Arashikage tat on his shirt. 'Cause that don't make no sense.
Why even mention he is black here? it may not have been your intent but I hope that you are not saying that is one of the preventing factors for him being a Ninja!

[ceraurus]

Everyone is a ninja now. Even Cobra Commander.

The movie will also feature subliminal ninja training--anyone who sees the movie will become a ninja.

The usher will walk into the theater and wonder where everyone went.

[Firefly77]

The movie will also feature subliminal ninja training--anyone who sees the movie will become a ninja.

The usher will walk into the theater and wonder where everyone went.

Lets cut the BS and be serious about this. The previews for the movie had the same subliminals imbedded. We are all ninjas now. Granted, the movie may hieghten our skills but we're all certified as of this minute.

(Bow)

[Dragasses]

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!
laugh out loud.

The movie will also feature subliminal ninja training--anyone who sees the movie will become a ninja.

The usher will walk into the theater and wonder where everyone went.
and hawesome.

[ceraurus]

Lets cut the BS and be serious about this. The previews for the movie had the same subliminals imbedded. We are all ninjas now. Granted, the movie may hieghten our skills but we're all certified as of this minute.

(Bow)

Huh. Now I understand why I've started entering buildings through a top-floor window.

[Derek2783]

So the symbol is the problem, albeit a minor one. Other than the figure, I've yet to see any indication that Roadblock is now ninja. I suppose that I'm in the camp that would speculate that he has had some basic training but really, for all I know, he's just a big fan of the clan.

NOT THAT CLAN!

You know what I'm talking about. The foot clan, obviously.

Hahaha. That was funny.

Why even mention he is black here? it may not have been your intent but I hope that you are not saying that is one of the preventing factors for him being a Ninja!

Obviously not. Rizza is the Hard Master, so in the continuity, being black doesn't affect ones ability to be a ninja at all. It was more a comment that his ethnicity (and I'm not only referring to race here but also culture) is part of his character. I'd like them to stay as true to the original character as possible, when it comes to personality, ethnicity, etc. So, Roadblock can be a badass, he always has been. But not a ninja badass. That's just not Roadblock. Take liberties, sure. Give him a shirt instead of a tanktop. Make him more of a grappler than a puncher. But don't make him a giant ninja.

[Omega 8]

who cares!?!

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattel!!!!

I see what you're doing here........ ;)

As for the actual subject of the thread –

I'm all for the advancement/modernization of the property and don’t expect the characters to be carbon copies of the Marvel book or sunbow 'toon but I have to say, I think making Roadblock a ninja is fucking stupid. It's completely unnecessary, he's already a bad ass. The Rock is a pretty damned good action star and he's playing a character that traditionally is a beast in his own right, "ninjafying" him is over kill.

Examples of modernizing properties in modern films:

Bumblebee is a Yellow Camaro instead of a VW Beetle – Good idea
Optimus Prime is Kenworth type truck instead of a Mack type – Meh
Ripcord is black instead of white – Who cares?
Deadpool is an amalgamation of all mutants and has sword arms – Fucking stupid

The bad changes are not bad just because they are changes, they are bad because they are just BAD.

Now, am I going to boycott the film? No. Am I going to threaten to do bodily harm to Chu/Paramount? No.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I see what you're doing here........ ;)

As for the actual subject of the thread –

I'm all for the advancement/modernization of the property and don’t expect the characters to be carbon copies of the Marvel book or sunbow 'toon but I have to say, I think making Roadblock a ninja is fucking stupid. It's completely unnecessary, he's already a bad ass. The Rock is a pretty damned good action star and he's playing a character that traditionally is a beast in his own right, "ninjafying" him is over kill.

Examples of modernizing properties in modern films:

Bumblebee is a Yellow Camaro instead of a VW Beetle – Good idea
Optimus Prime is Kenworth type truck instead of a Mack type – Meh
Ripcord is black instead of white – Who cares?
Deadpool is an amalgamation of all mutants and has sword arms – Fucking stupid

The bad changes are not bad just because they are changes, they are bad because they are just BAD.

Now, am I going to boycott the film? No. Am I going to threaten to do bodily harm to Chu/Paramount? No.

You forgot one...replacing Stepehen Sommers with John Chu = priceless

[Derek2783]

I see what you're doing here........ ;)

As for the actual subject of the thread –

I'm all for the advancement/modernization of the property and don’t expect the characters to be carbon copies of the Marvel book or sunbow 'toon but I have to say, I think making Roadblock a ninja is fucking stupid. It's completely unnecessary, he's already a bad ass. The Rock is a pretty damned good action star and he's playing a character that traditionally is a beast in his own right, "ninjafying" him is over kill.

Examples of modernizing properties in modern films:

Bumblebee is a Yellow Camaro instead of a VW Beetle – Good idea
Optimus Prime is Kenworth type truck instead of a Mack type – Meh
Ripcord is black instead of white – Who cares?
Deadpool is an amalgamation of all mutants and has sword arms – Fucking stupid

The bad changes are not bad just because they are changes, they are bad because they are just BAD.

Now, am I going to boycott the film? No. Am I going to threaten to do bodily harm to Chu/Paramount? No.

QFT.


Except for the Ripcord thing. That still bugs me. And not just because he was black... it was because he wasn't Ripcord. He was a new character.

[RolandofGilead]

The movie will also feature subliminal ninja training--anyone who sees the movie will become a ninja.

The usher will walk into the theater and wonder where everyone went.

I am even more excited for this movie than ever before. I always wanted to be a ninja, but all that training and discipline just weren't my thing.

Now if only they could subliminally make me skinny...

[Derek2783]

Actually, I decoded the subliminal messaging and it's worse than originally thought. It doesn't make you a ninja, it just makes you think you're a ninja.

Typical Hasbro shortcuts.

[RolandofGilead]

Dammit!

[Jmacq1]

Actually, I decoded the subliminal messaging and it's worse than originally thought. It doesn't make you a ninja, it just makes you think you're a ninja.

Typical Hasbro shortcuts.

Hasbro also denies any liability should you feel the uncontrollable urge to flip out and kill people.

[ceraurus]

Actually, I decoded the subliminal messaging and it's worse than originally thought. It doesn't make you a ninja, it just makes you think you're a ninja.

Typical Hasbro shortcuts.

I guess that's better than being a real ninja, but unable to ever let go of large chucks of plastic in your hands.

[CrimsonGuard101]

I guess that's better than being a real ninja, but unable to ever let go of large chucks of plastic in your hands.

The price one must pay to achieve Battle Kata(tm)!...vehicles and accessories sold separatley.

[Crazy Legs]

I have a hard time believing they just showed a list of codenames to Dwane Johnson and asked him to choose. That smacks of the absurd. Does anyone really believe that they would handle casting that way? Really?

Ahem.
http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/9090/gijoeripcord4.jpg

[ShadowNinja]

is their a character the wayans guy could have played besides rip-cord?

[RolandofGilead]

is their a character the wayans guy could have played besides rip-cord?

His wise-cracking, skirt chasing character could have been Clutch, but with the whole "pilot" thing, there's not so many characters he could have played. Maybe Airborne, or Wild Bill, or they could have gone the Sunbow route where EVERYONE is a pilot.

[CrimsonGuard101]

is their a character the wayans guy could have played besides rip-cord?

Yup, Spider Man, Hawkeye, the Hulk....maybe even Tony Stark..he missed his chance at all of those unfortuantley..he had to come ruin ROC for me!

[Ford]

The most effective ninjas are the ones that you didn't even know were ninjas to begin with. If you know what they are, they have already failed.

Thus, Roadblock is the best ninja ever because nobody ever had a clue that he was one.

[CrimsonGuard101]

The most effective ninjas are the ones that you didn't even know were ninjas to begin with. If you know what they are, they have already failed.

Thus, Roadblock is the best ninja ever because nobody ever had a clue that he was one.

Well beating Snake Eyes is kinda of a dead give away that your a badass ninja that even Chuck Norris would approve of...

[wertdog91]

Bruce Willis is a ninja too. So is Duke, so is the gas station attendant

[Jay West]

I hear the name of this site is changing to hissninja.com. It's gonna be radical.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Bruce Willis is a ninja too. So is Duke, so is the gas station attendant

Nope..Bruce Willis is actually Hard Master undercover as Joe Colton...Roadblock is his long lost son...and with Snake Eyes help they help train Roadblock in the ways of Battle Kata (read force) so that when The Empire Arrives in epidoe 3 to assist Cobra and the Deciptcons locate more enegergon for the Jabbas...the Joes will have enough Ninjas to stop them....

[RolandofGilead]

http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/201011/20101116-favorite-things-2005-oprah-600x411.jpg

You've got a ninja, and you've got a ninja, and you, and you...

You've all got ninjas!!!!

[ceraurus]

You've got a ninja, and you've got a ninja, and you, and you...

You've all got ninjas!!!!

OMG!!! Thank you Oprah!!

[TheLongestDay]

based on the toys... They are ALL ninja's, even the Vehicles

Im ok with this.

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Not cool only Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Quick Kick all the Ninja that are Ninjas! Not making up a title for yourself like Roadblock is Chuck Norris would not Approve!

[CrimsonGuard101]

Not cool only Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Quick Kick all the Ninja that are Ninjas! Not making up a title for yourself like Roadblock is Chuck Norris would not Approve!

Unfortunatley Chuck Norris has signed off with his seal of approval on Battle Kata...even Iron Chef is getting into it with special limited edition Iron Chef Ginzu 5000 Battle kata ninja grip steak knife set a HSN exclusive.

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Chuck Norris once beat all the iron chefs while only cracking open one egg! And he would make roadblock look like a sissy in a french maids outfit by only utting the words don't an roadblock would wet his pants. Seriously doubt he would approve that message

[crock master]

a ninja chef

[sharky]

based on the toys... They are ALL ninja's, even the Vehicles
+10 for telling it like it is.


Deep down, aren't' we all ninjas?

[Smokebomb]

Ninjas? I didn't know we had ninjas...

[CrimsonGuard101]

Snake Eyes is also said to be training Bumbleebee and Ratchet how to be Ninjas too, so they can go back to cybertron and teach others in the new Cybertronian Arishikage Temple. So look out for the next Battle Kata enabled Tansformers toys, since Retaliations take on it is such a hit with the kids!

[Flint-wo2]

If he is Paramount isn't getting a cent from me.
Hasbro, depends on the toys.

[Pit Viper]

If they are going to make everyone a ninja they can at least give us Ninja Flint and Ninja Road Pig so we can finally get the Ninja Commandos.

[CrimsonGuard101]

If they are going to make everyone a ninja they can at least give us Ninja Flint and Ninja Road Pig so we can finally get the Ninja Commandos.

Ninja Commando? Isnt a ninja already bigger and badder then a commando? Seems uselessly reduandant, kinda like a Laser Shotgun Katana with underslung M205 Plasma Shuriken Launcher that MARS makes these days.

[Gideon75]

Roadblock is not a ninja in the movie. He is a cook, like the cartoon. He is also a Kung Food master.

[snakeeyes566]

who cares!?!

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattel!!!!

i just LOL'ed...you are HILARIOUS.

[tuan_tran73]

He is a ninja and the only person can beat Snake eyes. Roadblock is the best ninja. Larry Hama got it wrong in Comics and Sunbow cartoon, and now you know. :D

[snakeeyes566]

I think, like some others have said, that they are just using the symbol on the toys to promote it as the new symbol for the joes or something. only joe ninjas are jinx and snake eyes.

[crock master]

I think, like some others have said, that they are just using the symbol on the toys to promote it as the new symbol for the joes or something. only joe ninjas are jinx and snake eyes.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e205/picklis/P1290161.jpg

[CrimsonGuard101]

I think, like some others have said, that they are just using the symbol on the toys to promote it as the new symbol for the joes or something. only joe ninjas are jinx and snake eyes.

Not anymore. If Snake Eyes trained you, you are now a ninja...hence the kung fu battle grip...makes so much sense now..I always wondered how they all had kung fu grip. Next they gotta explain me some swivel are battle action...since were loosing more articualtion next year due to the vehicle driver success with kids.

[Headman]

Everyone is a ninja. Pay attention.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Everyone is a ninja. Pay attention.

Oh noes, now The Headman is a Ninja...DEF better be warned...oh wait they are ninja too!

[ozzie92]

I haven't read all these posts yet, so maybe others have suggested this, too...but my thoughts are that the "Renegades" have no where to turn to but Snake Eyes and his clan. Thus, in two short weekends, Arashikage diplomas are mailed out to Flint, Lady Jaye, and Roadblock upon completion of their "training." That's my best guess. Seems that clan symbol is as easy to get as it is to draw. ;)

[zedhatch]

Seems odd that they would make it such a deal about the figures and what level of articulation they have if it wasn't something from the movie. I find it weird when people mention the reason for the articulation differences and 3 seconds later mention that it's just a thing for the toys, then why make it a selling point for a line dedicated for a movie if it's no where in the movie?

[Headman]

Seems odd that they would make it such a deal about the figures and what level of articulation they have if it wasn't something from the movie. I find it weird when people mention the reason for the articulation differences and 3 seconds later mention that it's just a thing for the toys, then why make it a selling point for a line dedicated for a movie if it's no where in the movie?

Explain.

[Derek2783]

Seems that clan symbol is as easy to get as it is to draw. ;)

Dude, have you ever tried to draw that symbol? I tried all the time as a kid. Trying to get one line perfectly straight and then draw two more perfectly straight and at equal lengths right underneath is dang near impossible!!!

Seriously... anyone who can draw that thing by hand is a ninja. Actually, I think that's the final freaking test.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Dude, have you ever tried to draw that symbol? I tried all the time

Seriously... anyone who can draw that thing by hand is a ninja. Actually, I think that's the final freaking test.

No that would be to draw a perfect circle, free hand, that plays you a special power point presentation narrated by a prominent narrator from NPR that explains how to determine Pi.

[Darkfire]

Roadblock is not a ninja, he along with every other Joe was trained by one... Snake Eyes.

Roadblock cannot defeat Snake Eyes, nor can any other Joe.

[tuan_tran73]

Despite watching Sunbow cartoon, and read some GI JOE comics back in the 1980's, after reading this post, and watching ROC movie... I am starting asking myself "What do I know about GI Joes?"
is Baroness really Duke's lover? is Roadblock a ninja? is Cobra Commander really a car sellman? is GI Joe really the elite group? Is Larry Harma knew anything about Joes? Looks like I don't know anything about Joes. :(

[gunslingercbr]

Roadblock cannot defeat Snake Eyes, nor can any other Joe.

why not?

[RolandofGilead]

Obviously because Snake Eyes is Bolo.

[sharky]

who cares!?!

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattelblo!!!!
fixed :D

[Darkfire]

why not?

Because Snake Eyes is the baddest mofo on the Joe team. And now you know... and knowing is half the battle.

You guys really dislike the thought of Roadblock being a ninja? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!

Seriously though, I'm sure Jon, Paul, and Rhett know enough about the material to not make Roadblock a ninja.

[Talisman]

I'd assume Roadblock is a Ninja in the same way that a brick is a flying instrument.

[Tanksmasher]

does anyone know if Roadblock is a ninja in Retaliation, it looks like he is if the figure from the ninja pack is anything to go by, though i hope he isn't

It's called GI Ninja now, a special counter-Ninja Force dedicated to Truth, Justice, Black Masks and Super Spin Kicks. Bruce is the only "Joe" in the film. Get used to it. ;)

[ozzie92]

Dude, have you ever tried to draw that symbol? I tried all the time as a kid. Trying to get one line perfectly straight and then draw two more perfectly straight and at equal lengths right underneath is dang near impossible!!!

Seriously... anyone who can draw that thing by hand is a ninja. Actually, I think that's the final freaking test.

Ummm...maybe not so hard for kids who knew what a ruler was. ;) lol

[Hard-master]

Roadblock is not a ninja, he along with every other Joe was trained by one... Snake Eyes.

Roadblock cannot defeat Snake Eyes, nor can any other Joe.

agree no one can beat Snake Eyes on the Joe team if they could they would sent the to fight Storm Shadow instead

[snakeeyes566]

Roadblock is not a ninja, he along with every other Joe was trained by one... Snake Eyes.

Roadblock cannot defeat Snake Eyes, nor can any other Joe.

My new sig.

[Dem_Yoe'z!]

Not only is everyone in the movie a ninja....but just by SEEING the movie YOU can become a ninja!! Epic cool!!

[Super Beast]

Just because the rock(out of character mind you) when asked a question in an interview, whether his character, could beat Ray Park's character in a fight,and he said yes, but no, but only because the ninja would cheat...Does not make it canon.

...Now shut up.

[DR.Sin]

ROC's main theme was the whole nanomite thing. Almost every other piece of packaging was displaying it as part of the box art. Almost all the bad guys had the bio that stated nanomites as part of their history. There was even a nano viper figure with green armor.

Now the theme is ninjas and most of the characters will probably get a ninja history. Personally I do not mind that much. Probably because I was already taught by the turtles on how to be the best ninja I can be. Oh and how to live in a sewer.

[red4]

Actually, Roadblock is too big to be a ninja. It's quite clear he's 2 ninjas.

[Derek2783]

Just because the rock(out of character mind you) when asked a question in an interview, whether his character, could beat Ray Park's character in a fight,and he said yes, but no, but only because the ninja would cheat...Does not make it canon.

...Now shut up.

Probably nicer ways to say it, but good point.

[Super Beast]

Probably nicer ways to say it, but good point.

It wasn't supposed to be offensive..I knew I should have added a "Lol"

[Troynos]

If you read the prequel comic it's pretty clear that Roadblock is receiving more training from Snake Eyes then any other Joe and it's not just hand to hand. The prequel comic makes it pretty clear that the training is to get Roadblock more discipline.

This is from my interview with John Barber, artwork from #3 of the prequel:
http://thecomixverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GIJOE_MOVIE2_PREQ_03_pg04.jpg


So yeah, Roadblock gets much more training then any other Joe.

And Hasbro has labeled him a "ninja commando". They said he was trained by Snake Eyes.

[red4]

If you read the prequel comic it's pretty clear that Roadblock is receiving more training from Snake Eyes then any other Joe and it's not just hand to hand. The prequel comic makes it pretty clear that the training is to get Roadblock more discipline.

This is from my interview with John Barber, artwork from #3 of the prequel:
http://thecomixverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GIJOE_MOVIE2_PREQ_03_pg04.jpg


So yeah, Roadblock gets much more training then any other Joe.

And Hasbro has labeled him a "ninja commando". They said he was trained by Snake Eyes.

That first panel makes me queasy because of how cheaply it was produced - it's traced from a promotional photo for RoC.

[Crazy Legs]

If you read the prequel comic it's pretty clear that Roadblock is receiving more training from Snake Eyes then any other Joe and it's not just hand to hand. The prequel comic makes it pretty clear that the training is to get Roadblock more discipline.

This is from my interview with John Barber, artwork from #3 of the prequel:
http://thecomixverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GIJOE_MOVIE2_PREQ_03_pg04.jpg


So yeah, Roadblock gets much more training then any other Joe.

And Hasbro has labeled him a "ninja commando". They said he was trained by Snake Eyes.

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[cageyJG]

I'm a ninja.

[RANGER SMITTY]

This is the dumbest idea ever. Why does Roadblock have to be a ninja? Why couldn't he just be Roadblock? I have the distinct feeling that this film is going to be all about the rock, and not G.I. JOE

[Derek2783]

^my worst fear.

[Troynos]

This is the dumbest idea ever. Why does Roadblock have to be a ninja? Why couldn't he just be Roadblock? I have the distinct feeling that this film is going to be all about the rock, and not G.I. JOE

Roadblock: Retaliation Featuring G.I. Joe


This is definately The Rock's movie. The Rock and Willis will have the biggest roles/lines with Flint and Lady Jaye playing back-up.

And what isn't taken up by the Rock will be taken up by Snake Eyes and the ninjas.

[CrimsonGuard101]

The good news about the show Focusing on Rock an dWillis and SNake Eyes and then add the other cameos is...Bye Bye Tatum....hes taking a seat so far into the uppewr nose bleed sections...even Jimmy Hoffa won't notice him...

[RolandofGilead]

I'm ok with that.

[Lody]

Something tells me that everyone is going to be a Ninja in Retaliation....

[Lody]

Not only is everyone in the movie a ninja....but just by SEEING the movie YOU can become a ninja!! Epic cool!!

What if I already am a ninja?

[RolandofGilead]

Aren't you?

[CrimsonGuard101]

What if I already am a ninja?

You become anti-ninja...and everyone around you annhiliates due to the anti-matter katta of your aura

[Talisman]

You become anti-ninja...and everyone around you annhiliates due to the anti-matter katta of your aura

Probably the closest explanation of the Inverse Ninja Law we'll get around here.

[Kaboomskie]

They can mess up the story but I'll always have my own little imaginary Joes-verse.

I honestly don't care how they will portray Roadblock as long as the Roadblock figure does not have an Arashikage tatoo.

[spiderpumpkin]

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[red4]

How many GI Joes does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: They can't. Hasbro removed their articulation.

[judd]

I actually am a ninja. I got the tattoo and everything.

Then, I heard that ninjas are traditionally assassins and aren't known for their high moral turpitude...

So I just assassinated the fuck out of a block of chocolate. Then I kicked a kitten.

[Scythe]

I heard ninjas were crossdressers.

based on the toys... They are ALL ninja's, even the Vehicles

Even the dialogue is ninja, the whole thing is a silent film.

[Ford]

Who's the mastah?

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/paingainfloridaset2.jpg

[orezona]

I heard ninjas were crossdressers.



Even the dialogue is ninja, the whole thing is a silent film.


Actually, "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" is the THIRD movie in the franchise.

The sequel was completely ninja'd out so hard that nobody saw it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2wguq9s.jpg

[CG82]

Wonder if Firefly is a Ninja as well, probably is since hama turned him into one when the line and comic went downhill. I wager this movie will dud out.

[cobracobra]

They can not stop kicking GI JOE square in the balls can they?

[CobraSnakeEyes]

I kicked a kitten.

That made me laugh soooooo hard!! And I am a cat person!

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Actually, "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" is the THIRD movie in the franchise.


Your kung Pow gif is awesome I remember laughing for a half hour straight over that particular scene

[Odinsdad]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/18336434.jpg

[judd]

That made me laugh soooooo hard!! And I am a cat person!

Cheers!

But are you a ninja cat person?

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Cheers!

But are you a ninja cat person?

Most Definitely

[vermillion21]

based on the toys... They are ALL ninja's, even the Vehicles

^ this ... LOL.
:)

[Kaboomskie]

Even the fricken' movie accurate Cobra Troopers are ninjas...because they have katanas, so there...

[ResoluteBAT]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7782828024_fdfb4f1518.jpg

Retaliation against Joe Fans that is!

[vermillion21]

Deth of the line!!!

[Troynos]

Retaliation against Joe Fans that is!

Retaliation for what?

Are you saying that Joe fans did something to the brand for the brand to want to retaliate?

[redx24]

damn this thread should say spoilers

[Konigstiger]

Even the fricken' movie accurate Cobra Troopers are ninjas...because they have katanas, so there...

I think they did it, and they may have even confirmed as much, simply because they thought there had been too many troopers lately. :rolleyes:

Matters not, I'm hoarding and repainting those bastards. Throw the swords in the "useless" bag.

[wrw311]

Been a joe fan my whole life and I was never a fan of the whole ninja thing. Dont get me wrong I love me some Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. The dynamic between the two are fantastic. But 2 Ninjas is all we really need. I will take an army of well armed grunts over a ninja army any day.

[vermillion21]

I am so done with Hasblo, Chublo, Paramountblo and DiBonentureblo!!!! just sell the brand to Mattel!!!!

^ Amen brotha!!

... I'm all for the advancement/modernization of the property and don’t expect the characters to be carbon copies of the Marvel book or sunbow 'toon but I have to say, I think making Roadblock a ninja is fucking stupid. It's completely unnecessary, he's already a bad ass. The Rock is a pretty damned good action star and he's playing a character that traditionally is a beast in his own right, "ninjafying" him is over kill.

Examples of modernizing properties in modern films:

Bumblebee is a Yellow Camaro instead of a VW Beetle – Good idea
Optimus Prime is Kenworth type truck instead of a Mack type – Meh
Ripcord is black instead of white – Who cares?
Deadpool is an amalgamation of all mutants and has sword arms – Fucking stupid

The bad changes are not bad just because they are changes, they are bad because they are just BAD.

^ 100% agree

[hellian75]

Maybe it's a new form called Ninja Wrestling?

[hellian75]

Well for all the guys that ain't ninjas, all they gotta do is program the accelerator suits for ninjutsu and bam all of Gijoe are ninjas. I think I smell what the rock, hasbro and paramount are cooking and it smells like a train wreck.

[CobraSnakeEyes]

Maybe it's a new form called Ninja Wrestling?

This

[thewetsandal]

Roadblock is a heavy gunner and a cook so i hope thats all he is, if hes a ninja and can beat Snake Eyes there really is no reason for Snake Eyes to be in the movie

This also sounds a little like Steven seagal in the movie Under Siege, navy seal and a cook HAHAHAHA

[shishi]

Maybe RB gets beaten up by Cobra and then there is a 2 minute montage of him training as a ninja and after that he can take on anyone.

[skinny]

Roadblock gets his ninja training in the movie comic book prequel.

HissTank Reviews GI Joe Retaliation Prequel #1 - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/comics-8/hisstank-reviews-gi-joe-retaliation-prequel-1-11076/)

[braxthunder]

According to the old file cards Snake Eyes is also a hand-to- hand combat instructor(secondary military specialty). This means that all the Joes have training by a ninja master but are not ninja. Just because Roadblock has some ninja training and a tat does not make him a ninja, just a better fighter.

[UNDERCOVER]

based on the toys... They are all ninja's, even the vehicles

lmao :)

[MIGHTY69KWINN]

Maybe RB gets beaten up by Cobra and then there is a 2 minute montage of him training as a ninja and after that he can take on anyone.
The whole movie takes place in the Matrix

[Indiana Joe]

According to the old file cards Snake Eyes is also a hand-to- hand combat instructor(secondary military specialty). This means that all the Joes have training by a ninja master but are not ninja. Just because Roadblock has some ninja training and a tat does not make him a ninja, just a better fighter.

A ninja (忍者?) or shinobi (忍び?) was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan who specialized in unorthodox warfare. The functions of the ninja included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, and open combat in certain situations.[1] Their covert methods of waging war contrasted the ninja with the samurai, who observed strict rules about honor and combat.[2] The shinobi proper, a specially trained group of spies and mercenaries, appeared in the Sengoku or "warring states" period, in the 15th century,[3] but antecedents may have existed in the 14th century,[4] and possibly even in the 12th century (Heian or early Kamakura era).[5][6]
In the unrest of the Sengoku period (15th–17th centuries), mercenaries and spies for hire became active in the Iga Province and the adjacent area around the village of Kōga, and it is from their ninja clans that much of our knowledge of the ninja is drawn. Following the unification of Japan under the Tokugawa shogunate (17th century), the ninja faded into obscurity, being replaced by the Oniwabanshū body of secret agents.[7] A number of shinobi manuals, often centered around Chinese military philosophy, were written in the 17th and 18th centuries, most notably the Bansenshukai (1676).[8]
By the time of the Meiji Restoration (1868), the tradition of the shinobi had become a topic of popular imagination and mystery in Japan. Ninja figured prominently in folklore and legend, and as a result it is often difficult to separate historical fact from myth. Some legendary abilities purported to be in the province of ninja training include invisibility, walking on water, and control over the natural elements. As a consequence, their perception in western popular culture in the 20th century was based more on such legend and folklore than on the historical spies of the Sengoku period.

[ShadowNinja]

u look that up?

[1FormidableJoe]

Roadblock is a ninja! Duke is a ninja! Flint is a ninja assassin! Blah Blah Blah! This movie would have been just as cool if they stayed with everyones' bio! Roadblock as a ninja is a joke & doesn't even sound right! I will still support the movie by going to see it in the theaters!

[UNDERCOVER]

Roadblock is a ninja! Duke is a ninja! Flint is a ninja assassin! Blah Blah Blah! This movie would have been just as cool if they stayed with everyones' bio! Roadblock as a ninja is a joke & doesn't even sound right! I will still support the movie by going to see it in the theaters!

I agree. Roadblock as a ninja is very hard to defend.

[UNDERCOVER]

According to the old file cards Snake Eyes is also a hand-to- hand combat instructor(secondary military specialty). This means that all the Joes have training by a ninja master but are not ninja. Just because Roadblock has some ninja training and a tat does not make him a ninja, just a better fighter.

Roadblock should not have that tat period. http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j392/undercover4/lame_zps3535368c.gif