View Full Version : What are some inaccuracies in movies that bug you?
minstrelboy
10-05-2008, 03:40 PM
There's a lot of things in the movies, especially in action movies, that are just not plausible and will always bug the hell out of me:
99% of the time, cars don't explode.
Shooting at a gas tank doesn't cause an explosion, unless you're using tracer rounds - and then only maybe. Bullets are lead. Lead doesn't spark. And sparks don't always guarantee ignition - you need enough confined vapors to make it ignite.
Hitting someone on the head doesn't knock them unconscious. If you hit them hard enough, they can receive a concussion, or even die from blunt force trauma. But how many times do you see someone hit over the head and knocked out, and then just wake up fine? In the movies - all the time. In real life? Never.
Likewise, blood doesn't come from a wound the second it is made. And not all bullet wounds would cause a victim to cough up blood.
Ordinary fragmentation grenades do not explode in a giant flaming fireball. They explosion is generally small, and only consists of some sparks, flying shrapnel, and any dirt, dust or other debris kicked up by the explsion. Unless there are secondary explosives ready to go off next to the grenade.
I hate when there is a big explosion, they show a sequence of the same explosion from different angles.
In real life, people usually don't die the instant they're shot or stabbed. Even people who receive head shots live for a while after, albeit they're probably not going to continue to move about much during that time. But in a lot of movies (unless it's relevant to the emotional trajectory of the story), people get shot by random gunfire and drop dead. Okay, maybe they got hit in the heart. You're done then. But how about when someone is stabbed in the gut, and then grimace in pain, and then fall over dead? Not likely. They're going to bleed out long and painfully.
Also, a bullet hitting a human does not throw them back off their feet. Maybe if the bullet had a broader impact zone - say, the size of a cinder block - then it might. But a bullet hitting flesh, even a large claiber round, still goes through as best it can, which means there will be evidence of blunt force trauma (such as hitting bone), but a far less display that usaully is shown in cinema.
In movies, the "good guys" always have an over emotional scene when one of their own die. The "bad guys" don't even blink as their own are gunned down right in front of them - they just keep coming, charging headlong into the bullets, without a single thought of their own personal safety. It's just not the way it happens. Even the bad guys have internal thoughts, and can loose their cool under fire.
I hate over the top villains. But that's just a personal thing. There are enough of those throughout history and into today.
Being right next to an explosion scrambles your brain. A lot of studies are being done on veterans who have received concussions from this. Usually, the short term effects go away after a while (blurred vision, tinitus, loss of taste or smell), but nobody really knows what the long term effects are yet. But squatting down as an explosion goes off, and then getting up and walking away perfectly fine is not how it happens.
The same with gunfire - without proper hearing protection, and after firing off several clips of ammunition in confined quarters, you won't be able to hear a truck pull up behind you, let alone a stealthy assassin.
Also with gunfire, there's no need to randomly shoot on full-auto. Unless you're laying down supressing fire, it's just a waste of ammo. And they never need to reload.
And in military films, if you've spent any time around or in the military, you can always point out stuff that is wrong. And it's usually small stuff - like the proper wearing of rank, or the types of weapons used. Do some research.
In sci-fi, there is no sound in space. Sure, for fantasy purposes, I'll let it slide and suspend my disbelief. But to keep sci-fi plausible, there is no sound in a vaccuum. Ditto with being able to fly through space like there's an atmosphere and gravity working out there. There isn't. You need to use attitude adjuster nozzles placed all over the ship to have it make any sort of maneuvers.
Some people will argue these things are devices to keep the story moving without distraction. I say it robs the film of any credibility, while glamorizing violence, giving it cartoon-like qualities that some people no doubt take at face value. I know a lot of people that think all of the stuff on shows like CSI are the way it's done.
Anything I miss?
Cavbeast
10-05-2008, 03:50 PM
Do you go to orphanages and explain to the kid how there's no such thing as Santa?
Actually you covered most of my pet peeves in a very detailed way and it just depends how much I'm into the movie that I'll be forgiving case in point, turbo boosts on vehiciles that leap you over cars so you don't harm innocent bystanders. Last time I checked that involved complicated physics, thrust and boost otherwise straight line baby.
minstrelboy
10-05-2008, 04:03 PM
I agree that with certain kinds of movies, I can give them leeway, especially if they take place in alternate realities. I'm more pointing my finger at action movies, war movies or any other type of film that exists within the world the rest of us live in.
And what do you mean "there's no such thing as Santa?"
Cavbeast
10-05-2008, 04:13 PM
And what do you mean "there's no such thing as Santa?"
I don't know, just something I read between Shadowcat and Emma Frost.
crock master
10-05-2008, 04:30 PM
the transformers movie i feel resembled the t1000 memory metal. basically if all the transformers wanted to be the same car they could.the movie should have taken place in the 80's with old ass cars and funny haircuts.also they should have left out any govrnment forces and the war
Cobra88
10-05-2008, 04:51 PM
"RELOADING" no one seems to have to reload the guns in movies!!!!!!!!!! or when there pistol only holds 12 bullets but yet they shoot off 25 rounds "and still dont reload!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that always gets me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
butter_the_pure
10-05-2008, 04:53 PM
...the movie should have taken place in the 80's with old ass cars and funny haircuts.
YES! I wanted the G.I.Joe movie to take place in the 80's, but noo it's in da future, how original. lame.
darth_henning
10-05-2008, 05:17 PM
I'm willing to forgive the construction of ships in Sci-fi, because the average person doesn't understand how these things work (and because they may have technology we don't have yet). Again, I'm willing to forgive the sounds in space thing through the simple solution that inside ships they have sound simulators to provide another sensory element to the people aboard.
However, all the other comments made are perfectly true, and very annoying.
LaDracul
10-05-2008, 05:53 PM
Somehow, the ones that are in TV shows bug me the most.
Like on "Family Guy"...why is Lois advocating condom use in one episode when she said that a broken condom resulted in Chris being conceived and a lawsuit in which they won enough money to buy their house? Yeesh.
Barefoot Jedi
10-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Ummm...pretty much EVERY component of the romantic comedy genre. I think there's more fantasy in those films than in actual fantasy and science fiction films.
spacemonkeymafia
10-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Any Average Teen movie where the ugly duckling turns out to be super hot at the prom........even though Ugly Duckling isnt ugly at all the way she was.........
Snake-Eyes01
10-05-2008, 09:29 PM
All these posts on here reminds me of that movie The Last Action Hero! All that not needing to reload, falling in tar & suddenly coming out clean, falling from crazy heights without injury!
Anyway, one movie that really sticks WAY out for me is Live Free or Die Hard! Anyone who's seen this definitely knows what I'm saying!
sharke
10-05-2008, 11:15 PM
as a military history nut just about every period piece. though namely anything written by randall wallace....dude just picks anything and throws it in....
Freedom
10-05-2008, 11:27 PM
Movies about real people that aren't even close to being true. Why not call the movie something else rather than give false perceptions of history.
The Memphis Belle - Decent movie, but the only thing true about it was the fact that a WWII B-17 called the Memphis Belle made 25 successful missions. The characters in the movie are completely made-up.
Young Guns I & II - The story of Billy The Kid - There were some accurate events, people, and places, but some of those people weren't in those places at those times or in that order.
Braveheart - The story of William Wallace - The only thing in that movie that was true was there was a Scot named William Wallace who led a rebellion against the English and fought battles in those places.
There's plenty more.
The reason a lot of this bothers me is the real stories are just as exciting and interesting as the made up movie parts, so why change them at all?!
Dutchmaster29
10-05-2008, 11:32 PM
The Suspension of Disbelief is something that makes movies great! While annoying real life isn't all that interesting sometimes...
I for one am glad that the movie The Delta Force was technically accurate. :)
sharke
10-05-2008, 11:36 PM
I for one am glad that the movie The Delta Force was technically accurate. :)
HA!
generalhawk
10-05-2008, 11:44 PM
top gun goose wouldnt have died like that even in a tail spin the cannopy would still blast away from the plane not just up and also those canopies are designed to shatter if they bolts do not blow off.
Scoop
10-05-2008, 11:44 PM
I work in television and film and the most important thing to me is continuity.
I can't believe how many times you see mistakes that were not caught when filming, but not fixed during editing as well. You would think that someone whould have caught the error before the fans who watch it did. We even have people on the set that get paid to keep an eye on these things. I know nothing is 100% accurate but comeon.
The biggest mistakes happen though when a scene gets deleted but they leave other information in the film that pertains to that scene. One scene that I can think of is at the end of the Goonies when Data says "The octopus was very scary". If you are not familiar with the extra "deleted" scenes of Goonies there was an octopus scene in the water near One Eyed Willy's ship. In the final version of the movie the octopus scene was cut, mainly because it looked like crap. It reminded me of the octopus that was in Popeye with Robin Williams. If you ever get a chance to see the Goonies on the Disney channel they sometimes show the movie with the extra scenes. Some of them are included in the bonus features on the DVD as well.
sharke
10-06-2008, 12:14 AM
I like the films but nothing in any indy film matches up or resembles the histories behind the artifacts....also way off on Nazis, machinery, and really anything to do with the thirties.....
LaDracul
10-06-2008, 12:23 AM
Any Average Teen movie where the ugly duckling turns out to be super hot at the prom........even though Ugly Duckling isnt ugly at all the way she was.........
Erm, that's a cliche, not an inaccuracy.
CTGLinks
10-06-2008, 12:34 AM
Anything I miss?
OMG
Dukes of Hazzard type jumps and cars just cruising away unharmed...bug me big time.
Also, little things that overpaid editors miss such as...
During transformers, Megan Fox (and the other guy that no one cares about since I just mentioned Megan Fox) jumps into "old" Bumblebee and window on door is up. Being chased by "To Punish and Enslave" Megans head and arms are flying out the suddenly opened window. When they finally stop the windows back up. Small errors, but come on!!!!
LOL
mech-grunt
10-06-2008, 12:36 AM
OK this is what gets under my skin the average kill best on a grenade is 5 meters same as 40mm grenade (grenade launcher like the M203 which is under the M16). It’s good enough to kill or injure anyone in a small room not quit up to the job destroying an entire building. As stated before for sum reason Hollywood is in love with automatic fire. Real world automatic is not accurate that’s why we fire on semi, full automatic has bin out of the M16 family since the early 80’s, most assault rifles only have semi or burst modes. The avenge range on a hand gun is 50 meters and that is with a good firing stance NOT 300 meter while conducing a combat role.
Headman
10-06-2008, 12:43 AM
For the record, I have hitting people in the head to knock them out down to a science. Some times I use this tactic at work when I want to clock out early.
CTGLinks
10-06-2008, 11:01 AM
For the record, I have hitting people in the head to knock them out down to a science. Some times I use this tactic at work when I want to clock out early.
Awesome! I could use this, can you teach me master? LOL
thunderdan19
10-06-2008, 11:37 AM
I love when the hero "takes cover" around the corner of a doorway in a wall made of drywall (or some other lightweight material) or furniture and the bad guys either shoot only at the very edge of the doorway or the drywall miraculously stops bullets from penetrating the wall behind the hero.
I also love how the back window of the hero's car always get shot out and the tail lights always get blown out, but somehow those bullets fail to continue through the car to the front windshield or into the occupants. Cars are just not that robust.
Additionally, having traveled all over the world, it always ruins a movie for me when accuracies about a foreign country are replaced with cliches and stereotypes. This always seems to be an issue for Hollywood, particularly with Japan/China/other Asian countries being confused with each other, and all things Latin American being Mexican. Geez. At least they could do a little homework.
Oh, and using well known (even iconic) American aircraft/equipment as "Migs" or enemy is a chronic problem (like using F-4 Phantoms in one of the Iron Eagle movies). And what was with the old Huey medivac in Transformers? You can get A-10s, Raptors and Ospreys, but you can't get them to fly you a little footage with a modern Blackhawk for a 10 second sequence??? Wierd.
Ewokhunter92
10-06-2008, 11:43 AM
The ONLY thing full auto is good for is backyard/woods shooting when you just want to have fun.
Had a full auto Uzi and man, those are fun to play with. Shooting people like in movies with it? I don't think so. No way you can get an aim once that bastard starts. Some movies show guys with full auto subs blasting a guy in the chest with many rounds.
Not bloody likely.
jaxscorpio
10-06-2008, 11:43 AM
It's the simple yet very obvious mistakes that annoy me. Like in arise serpentor arise when zarana is talking and laughing at montezuma's tomb but she wasn't even there.
sharke
10-06-2008, 12:03 PM
Oh, and using well known (even iconic) American aircraft/equipment as "Migs" or enemy is a chronic problem
you mean the mig 24 from Top Gun?
Troynos
10-06-2008, 12:09 PM
They're movies, don't let anything about 'em bug me.
Except when can see cars in the distance in movies that don't have cars.
thunderdan19
10-06-2008, 12:12 PM
you mean the mig 24 from Top Gun?
I thought they called them MiG 31's. Anyway, painted F-5's weren't so bad, since they were only in service as trainers/OpForces in the US inventory anyway. It's the use of iconic US equipment such as F-4's and Huey's that gets me. I mean everybody has seen them in Vietnam footage and as their proper US vehicles in movies and TV and suddenly they are "MiG's"... Oy.
Pit Viper
10-06-2008, 12:23 PM
How about in G.I. Joe cartoons when the Joes take on Cobra the Cobra forces suddenly have no guns and rather than just shoot the charging troopers it comes down to hand to hand combat? Got to hand it to the Joes though. They go out of their way to make sure they aren't committing any war crimes. "Yeah I could just shot this guy dead but instead I think I'll shot the tree branch above him causing it to fall and knock him down."
Batmandk02
10-06-2008, 12:33 PM
What ERKS me the most is the horror movies. When the killer is chasing the woman or the girl... SHE ALWAYS FALLS DOWN !! What the hell is with that?? You never ever see the guy fall down and then the killer gets him. But you throw a woman on the run and I promise you she can trip over a piece of LENT!! And another thing that is hilarious... you can run a marathon from Jason Voohees and all he does is strut around behind you and WILL catch you. Carl Lewis can't even get away from ole Voohees. That man gives the Turtle and the Hare story a true meaning.
Somehow, the ones that are in TV shows bug me the most.
Like on "Family Guy"...why is Lois advocating condom use in one episode when she said that a broken condom resulted in Chris being conceived and a lawsuit in which they won enough money to buy their house? Yeesh.
Yeah, and it shows Stewie got his football shaped head when he hit it on the ceiling, but when it shows in another episode that he was born like that?
I just don't think I can take Family Guy seriously anymore.
GGPiKE
10-06-2008, 12:49 PM
They're movies, don't let anything about 'em bug me.
Except when can see cars in the distance in movies that don't have cars.
I'm kind of with you. Nothing really bothers me about them. I guess period pieces with historical inaccuracies might bother me, but unless it's a documentary I wouldn't really have an issue with it.
I just watch the movie, enjoy it, and usually don't spend any time analyzing it or picking it apart.
Ewokhunter92
10-06-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm kind of with you. Nothing really bothers me about them. I guess period pieces with historical inaccuracies might bother me, but unless it's a documentary I wouldn't really have an issue with it.
I just watch the movie, enjoy it, and usually don't spend any time analyzing it or picking it apart.
Like WWII that use Vietnam era Tanks as the Germans?
I think it was The Desert Fox that used all US vehicles as well as most of the weapons for the Germans. It was horrible.
Captain Carstein
10-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Frag grenades that create huge explosions or blow up buildings or other large stuff definitely bugs the crap out of me.
One small detail (for others) that always bugs me is when the movie dialogue throws out the word "classified."
How many movies have you seen where there's about to be some briefing at the Pentagon or White House, or a conversation in a limo, or someone pulls some pictures out of their briefcase, or in Transformers when they first go into the chamber that holds Megatron.
"What you about to hear/see is classified."
Classified what?!! Classified confidential?, secret?, top secret?, top secret SCI?, by phylum?, under G?, in the file cabinet, under the Dewey Decimal System??????
Captain Carstein
10-06-2008, 01:06 PM
I just don't think I can take Family Guy seriously anymore.
Me neither. I can no longer look at this serious animated family drama the same way again. :)
jjk1120
10-06-2008, 01:10 PM
I think one of the WORST movie mistakes was in Jurassic Park.
When the group is on tour of the island park, the power goes out. The group stops right in front of the t-rex enclosure. The electric fence of the enclosure is on a concrete wall, about 5 feet high. When the t-rex breaks through the fence and steps over the small wall, he eats the lawyer and damages the utility cars.
The then nudges on of the utility cards over the 5 foot concrete wall, which would be back into his enclosure. We saw this when the little cage with the goat is raised up for him to eat. Instead, there's a 90 foot drop there now and the utility car falls then lands in a tree!
How could this be missed?!
The T-rex is on solid ground, steps over the wall onto more solid ground, then the ground on the other side turns into a 90 foot drop.
That is the worst.
Captain Carstein
10-06-2008, 01:18 PM
Like WWII that use Vietnam era Tanks as the Germans?
I think it was The Desert Fox that used all US vehicles as well as most of the weapons for the Germans. It was horrible.
Although big war movies like Patton or even Battle of the Bulge that used M48 tanks as BOTH King Tigers and Shermans do irk me. I do realize that there's not a huge amount of German (or American) WWII equipment lying around the works anymore, and at least they try to get the feel of the period/battle/whatever. At the same time, I do give extra kudos to movies like The Bridge at Remagen that uses mostly accurate equipment.
minstrelboy
10-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Movies about real people that aren't even close to being true. Why not call the movie something else rather than give false perceptions of history.
The reason a lot of this bothers me is the real stories are just as exciting and interesting as the made up movie parts, so why change them at all?!
Very true. It's warping history, which doesn't need any help - the internet is doing a fine job on it's own. Recent surveys of young adults in Britain revealed that greater than 50% thought that Sherlock Holmes was a real person, and that they also thought Winston Churchill was a fictional character.
But I'd even go as far to say the same about movies made from a previously written book, but hardly anything from the book is retained other than the title and names of characters and a vaguely similar plot (sometimes). It's fine if you want to use it as a springboard to mount your own story from, but don't pretend it's the same.
I like the films but nothing in any indy film matches up or resembles the histories behind the artifacts....also way off on Nazis, machinery, and really anything to do with the thirties.....
As long as a plot device's history is vague enough, I can forgive this. A lot of recent historical facts are starting to become blurred, however, due to a lot of distorted films made, and that should not be forgiven. Something that happened as long ago as, say, the Donner Party, where historical facts are sketchy and eye witnesses are all deceased, can be forgiven as an interperetation of fact (which is basically "opinion"). But there are still a few WWII vets alive, and an astounding supply of historical data for something from that era, that to just go ahead and riddle a film based during that time with technical and historical inaccuracies, I can't see doing so.
I watched a movie called Outpost recently, which was surprisingly good, for a movie that dealt with modern day mercenaries hired to escort a physicist to recover an old WWII Nazi bunker and some equipment inside, where there were still Nazi soldiers existing due to an explanation rooted in the occult, their search for the ultimate soldier and the Philadelphia Experiment. Total fantasy, but the plot was solid (albeit some of the conflict between the characters was contrived), the cinematography was good and they must have had some decent technical advisors. Check it out, if you're into it.
OMG
Dukes of Hazzard type jumps and cars just cruising away unharmed...bug me big time.
Also very true. Usually, the weight of the engine would drive the vehicle nose first into the ground. Those stunt cars are heavily modified to take that abuse, and after a single jump, they're usually turned into parts cars, because the damage is so severe. Even a small jump can destroy the suspension, steering, gouge out the oil pan and bust open the radiator or coolant lines at the very least.
OK this is what gets under my skin the average kill best on a grenade is 5 meters same as 40mm grenade (grenade launcher like the M203 which is under the M16). It’s good enough to kill or injure anyone in a small room not quit up to the job destroying an entire building. As stated before for sum reason Hollywood is in love with automatic fire. Real world automatic is not accurate that’s why we fire on semi, full automatic has bin out of the M16 family since the early 80’s, most assault rifles only have semi or burst modes. The avenge range on a hand gun is 50 meters and that is with a good firing stance NOT 300 meter while conducing a combat role.
I totally agree.
[QUOTE=thunderdan19;354818]I love when the hero "takes cover" around the corner of a doorway in a wall made of drywall (or some other lightweight material) or furniture and the bad guys either shoot only at the very edge of the doorway or the drywall miraculously stops bullets from penetrating the wall behind the hero.
I also love how the back window of the hero's car always get shot out and the tail lights always get blown out, but somehow those bullets fail to continue through the car to the front windshield or into the occupants. Cars are just not that robust.
Additionally, having traveled all over the world, it always ruins a movie for me when accuracies about a foreign country are replaced with cliches and stereotypes. This always seems to be an issue for Hollywood, particularly with Japan/China/other Asian countries being confused with each other, and all things Latin American being Mexican. Geez. At least they could do a little homework.QUOTE]
More trueness. Even some lightly armored vehicles allow the bullets to enter, but then they ricochete around inside, causing more collateral damage than protection.
Sychodog
10-06-2008, 02:15 PM
I hate the scene in almost all police shows when the officers are just about to raid a house / apartment and they show an officer chambering a round in their pistol. That should be done at the beginning of their shift, not after they've approached a raid site.
I'll second the hate for the unreal fight sequences where one bullet will instantly kill someone after knocking them back 5 feet.
Grrr!
Grendel
10-06-2008, 02:52 PM
Also, a bullet hitting a human does not throw them back off their feet. Maybe if the bullet had a broader impact zone - say, the size of a cinder block - then it might. But a bullet hitting flesh, even a large claiber round, still goes through as best it can, which means there will be evidence of blunt force trauma (such as hitting bone), but a far less display that usaully is shown in cinema.
It's been a been a long time since I've studied the whole ballistics thing but isn't there different considerations done when choosing bullets/weapon. There is takedown power and stopping power (I don't remember the names) one is bullet/weapon is designed to pass through body causing "little" damage just to incapacitate person. The other is designed to cause a greater impact and take person off their feet. which is why police use x weapon.
And in military films, if you've spent any time around or in the military, you can always point out stuff that is wrong. And it's usually small stuff - like the proper wearing of rank, or the types of weapons used. Do some research.
This is actually done for legal reasons rather than lack of research. errors in American uniforms are done purposely because it is a federal offense to impersonate a person in the military. They change like %20 of the uniform so they can wear it legally.
In sci-fi, there is no sound in space. Sure, for fantasy purposes, I'll let it slide and suspend my disbelief. But to keep sci-fi plausible, there is no sound in a vaccuum. Ditto with being able to fly through space like there's an atmosphere and gravity working out there. There isn't. You need to use attitude adjuster nozzles placed all over the ship to have it make any sort of maneuvers.
I totally agree with this one. The new Battlerstar Galactica is one of the only shows I've seen that take this into account.
Anything I miss?[/QUOTE]
One that amuses me is the actors are driving (actually being towed) having a conversation and rocking the steering wheel back and forth. It's like if you were really driving down the street they would be doing crazy "S" turns down the straight road. "Navy SEALs" is one that comes to mind.
Car movies has anyone seen "gone in 60 seconds 2" the original 2 not the Nick Cage remake. In one part he actually lost control of the car and hit a pole, the car was still running so he backed it off and continued the chase. Its cool watching the older stunts when there were people actually doing them instead of CGI
minstrelboy
10-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Car movies has anyone seen "gone in 60 seconds 2" the original 2 not the Nick Cage remake. In one part he actually lost control of the car and hit a pole, the car was still running so he backed it off and continued the chase. Its cool watching the older stunts when there were people actually doing them instead of CGI
The original Gone In 60 Seconds was great. Sure, it's a typically bad '70's movie, but it's incredibly fun to watch a 40 minute car chase that destroys almost a hundred cars in the process. That's where I can forgive sub-par acting and technical inaccuracies - as long as it's fun, and doesn't use cheap tactics to get the viewer emotionally involved (like an overly dramatic musical score).
That scene where he hit the telephone pole was accidental, i believe, but it was such a horrendous wreck that they left it in. That's an instance where a single car took all of that abuse, and albeit, the car was modified to take the abuse, they managed to keep it going. The car still does shows. H.B. "Toby" Halicki was the writer, director, actor and stunt driver for that movie. Basically, a guy with a lot of money and love for cars - especially to wreck cars. He died in a later film as a result of a stunt gone bad.
LaDracul
10-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Another TV show I'll bring up is "Highway to Heaven", and this is something that I believe a lot of cops would lose their jobs over.
This episode had Neo Nazis allowed to hold a rally in town with police supervision. HOWEVER, one of them had a gun and it results in death to a guy brave enough to oppose them.
Call me nuts, but wouldn't the police, oh, I don't know...SEARCH FOR WEAPONS AT A FUNCTION LIKE THIS?! My God...
zartan1
10-07-2008, 01:36 AM
I love the Rambo movies for their characters and stories, but hate how 100 guys can shoot at him and miss. Same goes for some Arnold movies like Commando, come on someone that big has to be a pretty easy target.
But what bugs me the most is when a hero gets shot/stabbed, crudely bandages the wound and keeps fighting like nothings wrong.
Oh and the thing about knocking someone out with a hit to the head, man 80's t.v. really took advantage of that gag (A-Team, Buck Rogers, Fall Guy, etc).
Pimp Daddy Darklon
10-07-2008, 01:43 AM
How about:
- Hero & Heroines are good looking people.
- Bad guys expoding in the end when he scientifically cannot.
generalhawk
10-07-2008, 02:12 AM
er bugs the hell out of me first they use to never use masks on that show when blood is spraying everywhere. and as an optician one episode had a guy using a scope to look in a patients eyes the "doc" had it backwards where the light was shining in his own eye instead of the patients.
zartan1
10-07-2008, 08:12 PM
How many times have you seen a movie/tv show were every Asian person knows karate? That always bugged me but not as much as some lame hero character who somehow can punch his way out of the situation, Chuck Norris excluded.
LaDracul
10-08-2008, 09:32 AM
How many times have you seen a movie/tv show were every Asian person knows karate? That always bugged me but not as much as some lame hero character who somehow can punch his way out of the situation, Chuck Norris excluded.
You should see those "Average Asian" sketches from "MAD TV"...Bobby Lee as a guy who keeps facing people that assume Asian stereotypes about him. Like how they think he's good at math when he was pretty average in school.
It also bugged me how racist the Asp's dance moves in "Annie" were...yeesh, just because he's Chinese...
ceraurus
10-08-2008, 09:47 AM
In sci-fi, there is no sound in space. Sure, for fantasy purposes, I'll let it slide and suspend my disbelief. But to keep sci-fi plausible, there is no sound in a vaccuum. Ditto with being able to fly through space like there's an atmosphere and gravity working out there. There isn't. You need to use attitude adjuster nozzles placed all over the ship to have it make any sort of maneuvers.
I totally agree with this one. The new Battlerstar Galactica is one of the only shows I've seen that take this into account.
Yeah, I've noticed this. Firefly/Serenity would do this occasionally as well.
dmizrok
10-08-2008, 09:54 AM
in Dances with Wolves, Costners "wild" pet wolf has a metal CHOKE COLLAR ON. oh, and the "indians" horses have HORSESHOES. and i remember their being jet engine smoke trails in the air in one scene.
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. Jack Black does a cannon ball into a pool, then emerges with a joint in his mouth and lights it.After being underwater.
I got PLENTY more.
Dealer Destro
10-08-2008, 10:03 AM
Um..... How about all the X-Men movies and the TF movie. Those were inaccuracies in their entirety.
spacemonkeymafia
10-08-2008, 10:13 AM
Erm, that's a cliche, not an inaccuracy.
Maybe but its inaccurate...........of real life....
zartan1
10-08-2008, 04:42 PM
You should see those "Average Asian" sketches from "MAD TV"...Bobby Lee as a guy who keeps facing people that assume Asian stereotypes about him. Like how they think he's good at math when he was pretty average in school.
It also bugged me how racist the Asp's dance moves in "Annie" were...yeesh, just because he's Chinese...
Thanks, I'll check that out. Haven't seen Mad TV in a long time but I'm willing to bet its still funnier than SNL.
spacemonkeymafia
10-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Thanks, I'll check that out. Haven't seen Mad TV in a long time but I'm willing to bet its still funnier than SNL.
Its not......dont worry.......
nighthawk
10-08-2008, 05:17 PM
It's funny how every alien race encountered in Stargate speaks English. I know that they explained the fact that it would take too much away from the story to have to have them learn new dialog when they meet new races, but still, everyone in the universe speaks English?
spacemonkeymafia
10-08-2008, 05:19 PM
It's funny how every alien race encountered in Stargate speaks English. I know that they explained the fact that it would take too much away from the story to have to have them learn new dialog when they meet new races, but still, everyone in the universe speaks English?
Doesnt everyone????
DPrime
10-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Meh, old stuff, like not having Migs in Top Gun or real German tanks for Patton, doesn't bother me too much. Or at least, I try not to let it. I mean, access to Migs in the mid-80s would have been INCREDIBLY hard, and no one's got as many Panzer IVs and IIIs required for the scenes for Patton or any of those other movies they made in the '60s or '70s. They, of course, didn't have digital effects either.
But I've got to admit, some things bother me. Stuff in Star Wars, for example. LOVE the movies (well, the OT anyway, and ROTS), but it's hard for me to ignore that the Stormtroopers are using WWI Lewis and WWII MG-34 machineguns. Even the belts used by all the rebel military personnel at the end of Episode IV, those old-style web belts pretty much every military used at the time. Battlestar Galactica (the new one) and Firefly used a lot of 20th Century weaponry too.
But really, just little things. No biggie.
Roadblock Recall
10-08-2008, 07:12 PM
we should not be able to hear ships, lasers, or explosions in space
minstrelboy
10-14-2008, 01:32 PM
Um..... How about all the X-Men movies and the TF movie. Those were inaccuracies in their entirety.
Those dealt with fantasy worlds that were applied to our real world, so I can suspend my disbelief for movies of their genre. The intention of this thread is more to deal with movies that try to deal with supposedly realistic or historical events in a totally fictional way, and/or are historically and factually incorrect.
Like in Black Hawk Down, where they cut to a scene of a soldier closing the rear hatch of a Humvee, and the hatch seal is hanging down. This is totally accurate, because those stupid seals always come loose. I applaud stuff like that.
How about:
- Hero & Heroines are good looking people.
- Bad guys expoding in the end when he scientifically cannot.
Very true. I like movies with unrecognizable, ordinary looking people, who can actually act. It seems the larger a "star" becomes, the crappier their abilities grow.
VandalSavage
10-14-2008, 03:48 PM
My biggest pet peeve..ie can severly ruin a film or show for me is when they create rules for a universe/story and then break their own rules during the story..having something shown as fact early on and then later ignore it just to move a story along...If you are changing a rule in a story then you had Best explain it!!!
Mr. Savage
DarthBrett
10-15-2008, 06:26 AM
How about people in comas in movies? In reality, most people suffer from brain damage after being in a coma (and especially one that lasts for days, weeks, months, whatever). Also, I hate it when somebody dies and a person will slide their fingers across the dead person's eyes to close them. I don't think this is possible in reality (I think the muscles in the eyelid will prevent the eyelids from shutting). I hate it when there is a scene where esomebody is playing the piano....always looks fake. I think I could come up with at least 10-20 more.
sharke
10-15-2008, 08:01 AM
just saw Indy 4 and the constant use of US trucks by Russians in Latin America was a bit distracting
VandalSavage
10-15-2008, 01:54 PM
just saw Indy 4 and the constant use of US trucks by Russians in Latin America was a bit distracting
The Whole "I SURVIVED A NUCLEAR BLAST IN A FRIDGE AND WAS THROWN FOR MILES" Distracted me!!!
Mr. Savage
Ewokhunter92
10-15-2008, 01:59 PM
The Whole "I SURVIVED A NUCLEAR BLAST IN A FRIDGE AND WAS THROWN FOR MILES" Distracted me!!!
Mr. Savage
SPOILERS! ;) haven't seen it yet, going to buy it this week. But I already heard about this B.S.
Dealer Destro
10-15-2008, 02:09 PM
So can I say that the way people get shot with BP vests on and then they "magically" get right back up or can still stand, for example, in the updated Punisher movie, when Castle, enters the club for the last shoot out, he catches slugs, and bullets and is still standing. In reality, if I, or anyone, got shot close range by a shotgun or a high caliper pistol, and was wearing a bullet proof vest, I know I would be in excruciating pain, get thrown back from the impact, or even be knocked out. But in the movies these guys get up, run, and return fire almost immediatly like nothing is wrong.
Bandalero
10-15-2008, 02:25 PM
to the OP - save yourself the trouble and don't watch WANTED.
Logic is thrown out the window in that one.
zartan1
10-18-2008, 11:22 PM
Something that just came to mind that has bothered me forever is Superman 2. You know the scene were the Kryptonians land in that "rustic" town full of rednecks and Zod uses his finger-beam to lift up some local guy. Well what has bothered me is when his little dusty, overall wearing son comes up and with a brittish accent says "please sir, put my doddy down". Where did that come from?
While on the subject, where did a lot of the new powers on that movie originate? I don't remember ever seeing comic Supes take the S off his outfit and throw it, only to have it become cellophane and wrap up a baddie.
minstrelboy
10-19-2008, 12:56 AM
I watched the Descent today, and the thing that I found myself bugged by this movie was the same thing that bothered me a lot about sitcoms like Friends: how can these people afford to do these things (like spelunking and sitting in a coffee shop) when they should obviously be tied down to a job? Even if (like in Descent) these 7 or 8 single women could all afford to have all of this hi-end climbing gear, and manage to all get together in another country, would all of their (assumed) high-paying jobs allow them all the leisure of taking time off at the same time?
Sure, it takes all the fun out of a movie or tv show when you think about these things, but I can't not think about this stuff. I've done it my whole life, and as much as I try to not think about these things, I just do. Because it reminds me of how shitty (my) real life actually is.
MLos1
10-19-2008, 01:21 AM
Sci-fi movies that continually rip off the ALIENS idea Cameron cemented as awesome. Hi-tech team, gets ass kicked by low-tech enemy on low-tech enemy's turf. It's flattering none the least, but hardly done as well in the myriad of movies that use the formula.
TheBaroness
10-19-2008, 11:02 AM
I hate when Arnold gets stabbed at the bar in Terminator 2 and when they show him grabbing the guy, you can see that he doesn't have a cut but when he goes to get the guy in the kitchen, he has a cut.
Well, at least I didn't spot a cut after he was stabbed.
minstrelboy
10-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Sci-fi movies that continually rip off the ALIENS idea Cameron cemented as awesome. Hi-tech team, gets ass kicked by low-tech enemy on low-tech enemy's turf. It's flattering none the least, but hardly done as well in the myriad of movies that use the formula.
Not to mention in reality - anyone remember a conflict called Vietnam? We had all the top technology, training and fire superiority that was available at that time, and we still fought tooth and nail and were eventually forced to evacuate the country. Convictions and morale can do amazing things to help gain the upper hand in combat.
Saboteur
10-21-2008, 10:15 PM
That they are an international unit or team.
Hasbro, Paramount, the writers, producers and directors are caving in to the PC crap of the day.
Remember this?
G.I. Joe is the code name for America's daring,highly trained special missions force. It's purpose: to defend freedom against Cobra. A ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.
*Sigh* those days are gone I suppose.
That's the only beef I can think of that I have with the film right now. I'm still optimistic about it and plan to see it.
Sab
jcast
10-21-2008, 10:26 PM
And what do you mean "there's no such thing as Santa?"
As for me and Grandpa, we believe.
Wynnhunter
10-21-2008, 10:36 PM
My biggest one is the pressure change when a window is shattered when one is high up in a skyskraper.
They used it right in Mercury Rising, but ignored it in I, Robot and the horridness that was Catwoman. That just bugs me, moreso in Robot then GarbageWoman.
LaDracul
10-25-2008, 09:15 AM
Okay, I finally thought of one in a movie. "Houseguest" where the emo girl is dating a whiteboy. (Whiteboy is slang for a white dude that thinks they're black.) I'm glad she dumps his ass after he cheats on her, but why would she go out with a type that emo kids (As well as a lot of other people) laugh at? Just couldn't believe that part of the movie.
Tanksmasher
10-25-2008, 11:24 AM
Here's a good one: When flying in space, why do X-Wings and other ships bank when they turn? First, none of these ships have any kind of thrust under the wings or sides that would rotate them about their longitudinal axis, causing a bank, and if they did have such things, it still wouldn't matter because banking doesn't create a horizontal component of lift in space! There's no atmosphere, so no lift! All they really need to do is yaw about the vertical axis with vectored thrust from the rear and then head in a new direction, but that would look funny.
Also, since there's really no up or down in space, why is it that when two starships meet, they just happen to be both upright? Why isn't one upside down or slanted relative to the other?
And of course there's also no sound in space, but we all forgive this small detail for the sake of some cool explosions!
Tanksmasher
10-25-2008, 11:34 AM
My biggest one is the pressure change when a window is shattered when one is high up in a skyskraper.
They used it right in Mercury Rising, but ignored it in I, Robot and the horridness that was Catwoman. That just bugs me, moreso in Robot then GarbageWoman.
Are sky scrapers pressurized? Commercial airplanes require pressurization because they fly over 14,000 feet and upwards to 40,000 where the air is really thin but the Sears Towers are only 1600 feet tall. Put one in Salt Lake and you're looking at maybe 6000 feet above sea level. But if some giant fictional tower over 14,000 feet happened to be pressurized due to special vents and air conditioning, it would take more than a gunshot through a window to cause explosive decompression. And if you did experience this, getting sucked out a window wouldn't matter because you'd probably die of lung trauma before you hit the ground.
spacemonkeymafia
10-25-2008, 11:53 AM
Here's a good one: When flying in space, why do X-Wings and other ships bank when they turn? First, none of these ships have any kind of thrust under the wings or sides that would rotate them about their longitudinal axis, causing a bank, and if they did have such things, it still wouldn't matter because banking doesn't create a horizontal component of lift in space! There's no atmosphere, so no lift! All they really need to do is yaw about the vertical axis with vectored thrust from the rear and then head in a new direction, but that would look funny.
Also, since there's really no up or down in space, why is it that when two starships meet, they just happen to be both upright? Why isn't one upside down or slanted relative to the other?
And of course there's also no sound in space, but we all forgive this small detail for the sake of some cool explosions!
You can except the Explosions in space, but not the flying?
Its Because its Fantasy and in a Galaxy Far Far Away......Besides George used Actual Footage of planes in W.W 2 and basiclly put his Tie Fighters and X Wings over the Actual Footage...
Tanksmasher
10-26-2008, 12:43 AM
Fantasy...no kidding.
I can get pretty arsehole with this topic since I can watch something and can get critical. I keep my mouth closed to not ruin it for people but if they ask my opinion...be careful. Although in my DVD reviews, I tend to write about it sometimes.
TV shows bug me the most as well.... I hate scenes in cars when the driver seems to not keep their eyes on the road and has this long conversation with the person on the passenger seat. I hate that.
I hate it when couples kiss early in the morning passionately after they make up when most couples know they don't want to kiss anyone with morning breath early in the morning...
I can go on and on...
Shin-Gouki
10-26-2008, 01:11 AM
The biggest for me is when the Movie is based on some long lived continuity (Say a Comic Book) and they throw it completely out the window to make the Movie.
spacemonkeymafia
10-26-2008, 01:11 AM
I dont know if your in love morning breath wont matter....I kiss my lady EVERY morning when we wake up.........
LaDracul
10-26-2008, 09:24 PM
I thought of another from a TV show...
I distinctly remember that in the pilot for "Sabrina the Teenage Witch", her aunts tell her she can't lay eyes on her mom UNTIL SHE REACHES A CERTAIN AGE, or her mom would turn into a ball of wax. However, in one of the later episodes, after she reaches that age, the spell takes effect and we see in the last episode she had to switch places with Hilda to attend her daughter's wedding.
Who forgot that vital piece of information?
minstrelboy
11-08-2008, 10:35 PM
Another thing that bugs me in a movie or on tv is when people are sneaking around, and it's dead silent, and they're looking for someone pursuing them, and all of a sudden, there's some people on motorcycles or in cars or in a helicopter. You can hear dirt bikes and helicopters from miles away - but in a movie, you never hear anything until you see it. Why must movie makers continue to mock real life with inaccuracies such as these? Why?!
the_loud_master
11-08-2008, 10:43 PM
O.K.
I'm sure everyone remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark, the first Indiana Jones movie.
Remember the truck chase scene?
O.K. good.
Remember how he was being dragged across the ground behind the truck while holding onto his whip?
WHY DIDN'T HIS PANTS SHRED OR EVEN RIP COMPLETELY OFF HIS PERSON?
spacemonkeymafia
11-08-2008, 10:46 PM
O.K.
I'm sure everyone remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark, the first Indiana Jones movie.
Remember the truck chase scene?
O.K. good.
Remember how he was being dragged across the ground behind the truck while holding onto his whip?
WHY DIDN'T HIS PANTS SHRED OR EVEN RIP COMPLETELY OFF HIS PERSON?
No one wanted to see his Wanker....
the_loud_master
11-08-2008, 10:49 PM
No one wanted to see his Wanker....
Neither did I but still!!! Wouldn't pants have some sort of tearage?
I mean sure he get shot and the rip stays there but the blood on the window doesn't?
MSG Duke
11-08-2008, 11:46 PM
My biggest pet peeve is with a lot of the socio-economic motivation for things I see in movies. You always see some heartless, evl corporation, trying to crush the "little guy", with no thought given to
a. In real life, even huge oil companies operate on surprisingly thin profit margins
b. In your stero-typical plot about some evil mega-corp trying to take over some wonderfully environmentally beautiful piece of land where some rare species of fruitfly lives, it would be extremely easy for said corporation to take their business elsewhere
c. Not a single thought given to the tens of thousands of jobs the "little guy" has just caused people to lose by taking down the "evil" corporation.
Makes exploding gas tanks and such look completely plausible by comparison.
Apeiron
11-08-2008, 11:53 PM
O.K.
I'm sure everyone remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark, the first Indiana Jones movie.
Remember the truck chase scene?
O.K. good.
Remember how he was being dragged across the ground behind the truck while holding onto his whip?
WHY DIDN'T HIS PANTS SHRED OR EVEN RIP COMPLETELY OFF HIS PERSON?
They were a damn good pair of pants?
MSG Duke
11-08-2008, 11:58 PM
Not to mention in reality - anyone remember a conflict called Vietnam? We had all the top technology, training and fire superiority that was available at that time, and we still fought tooth and nail and were eventually forced to evacuate the country. Convictions and morale can do amazing things to help gain the upper hand in combat.
Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
Gung.Heaux
11-08-2008, 11:58 PM
storywise, the inconsistency of the usage of the force in SW, pisses me off. luke i can understand, he doesnt yet know the potential. but in the prequels...c'mon.
eg when the buzz droids are swarming obi wan's fighter, why cant he just wave his hand and remove them. (yes, i know, its more exciting for anakin to crash his wing into kenobi's face) however, dont we remember "the ability to destroy a planet blah blah blah".
now in the new clone wars cartoon, the force seems to be with the jedi a bit more, but not still to the degree i think it could/should be.
MSG Duke
11-09-2008, 12:01 AM
The SW prequel continuity bothers the crap out of me too. Remember Episode 1, young Annie flys down that trench with R2-D2 and blows up the ship. You'd think, 25 years later, chasing Luke down the Death Star trench, he might have thought "Hmmmmm, this seems familiar for some reason."
Zartanman
11-09-2008, 12:25 AM
I hate any Sci-Fi Show where people go out into space with little more than an air tank or maybe less and act like it was just really cold.
Even when they show people floating in space dead, thats wrong too.
If you go into space without a Pressurized suit you will explode.
Tanksmasher
11-09-2008, 03:05 AM
I hate any Sci-Fi Show where people go out into space with little more than an air tank or maybe less and act like it was just really cold.
Even when they show people floating in space dead, thats wrong too.
If you go into space without a Pressurized suit you will explode.
Actually you wouldn't explode in space, you'd simply suffocate from the lack of oxygen in your lungs and die from lack of O2 in the blood. The pressurization is mainly to prevent ebullism. Space is cold, but this is not a primary concern either because heat does not transfer well in a vacuum.
RuckusJr
11-09-2008, 03:18 AM
How about in Star Wars when ships land in the docking bays and there are people just walking around as if the vaccuum and sub-freezing temperatures wouldn't kill them.
Blaster'spunchingbagg
11-09-2008, 04:11 AM
What ERKS me the most is the horror movies. When the killer is chasing the woman or the girl... SHE ALWAYS FALLS DOWN !! What the hell is with that?? You never ever see the guy fall down and then the killer gets him. But you throw a woman on the run and I promise you she can trip over a piece of LENT!! And another thing that is hilarious... you can run a marathon from Jason Voohees and all he does is strut around behind you and WILL catch you. Carl Lewis can't even get away from ole Voohees. That man gives the Turtle and the Hare story a true meaning.
Yes about those damn horror movies, especially Elm Street, it's supposed to take place in Ohio, I'm not from there but lived on the eastern side of the "old girl" for 22 years, and can tell you with great certainty there are absolutely no palm trees there. Also Halloween, HaddonField Illinois,? I can tell you with absolute certainty there are no rolling mountains or desert areas. There are farms on top of farms on top of grassy plainy farms. If you want to have said movie take place in another state, GTF to that state and shoot your GD movie. Otherwise take a cue from Scream series and say the F#$ker takes place in good ol Cali!!!
minstrelboy
11-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Actually you wouldn't explode in space, you'd simply suffocate from the lack of oxygen in your lungs and die from lack of O2 in the blood. The pressurization is mainly to prevent ebullism. Space is cold, but this is not a primary concern either because heat does not transfer well in a vacuum.
Another side of outer space that is never shown in movies is solar radiation. Space is always just shown as a cold vacuum with nothing in it but planets and asteroids. Navigation through space is fraught with all kinds of hazards, one of the worst being solar radiation. That, and the loss of bone density. WALL-E was the only movie to address this, and yet, after living generations in space (albeit with some sort of artificial gravity, and assuming there was some sort of bone-growth supplements in their drinks), they could still stand under earth's gravity.
Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
Even if this was true (I'm not saying it is or isn't), the VC still held their own for nearly a decade against several country's modern military forces. And yes, the morale of our own soldiers had been greatly compromised - by the people back home, by the futility of the war, by the relentlessness of the VC and the deaths of their own. The war (and our occupation) continued long after the Tet offensive up until the fall of Saigon in '74 (or '75 - I forget). Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is entertainment - 3rd world children weilding AK-47's is a sad reality.
Ice Viper
11-09-2008, 01:10 PM
One thing that always bothered me about the SW movies (particularly Episode IV) was that any time a Rebel ship like an A-Wing or X-Wing was destroyed, it would just sort of disintigrate. Meanwhile, when a TIE fighter was shot down, it would explode into this massive, never-ending fireball.
the_loud_master
11-09-2008, 01:13 PM
One thing that always bothered me about the SW movies (particularly Episode IV) was that any time a Rebel ship like an A-Wing or X-Wing was destroyed, it would just sort of disintigrate. Meanwhile, when a TIE fighter was shot down, it would explode into this massive, never-ending fireball.
As a Star Wars geek I could go into a very long and boring explanation as to why this happens besides dramatic effect. But I'd rather not lol.
zartan1
11-09-2008, 11:36 PM
Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
I remember hearing about that on the news. I'm amazed that it didn't get more publicity, but that would require the mainstream media to break their 40+ year streak of bashing our troops.
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time.
minstrelboy
11-11-2008, 11:03 PM
I remember hearing about that on the news. I'm amazed that it didn't get more publicity, but that would require the mainstream media to break their 40+ year streak of bashing our troops.
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time.
Actually, Oliver Stone was an infantry soldier in the Vietnam conflict.
spacemonkeymafia
11-11-2008, 11:34 PM
Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
Ewoks did to beat up Storm Troopers I was in the movie theater and saw it........
Zefram
11-12-2008, 03:24 PM
There's a book out there called "Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics" (which can be found on Amazon), which I'd recommend for anyone viewing this thread. Things I learned from this book...
The WW2 carrier motif of small fighters attacking big ships doesn't work in space. Since fire is at the speed of light (they use the word lasers often enough in SW), it is almost impossible to miss unless the target is also moving at said speed (which creates a thousand other problems). Also, if the fighter is rushing you when you blow it up, you now have a couple tons of burning shrapnel flying at you at several times the speed of sound with nothing like air or gravity to slow it down. Basically, every fighter pilot would be a on kamikaze mission with horrendous destruction on both sides.
Oh yeah, and lets not forget the little gem at the begining of ROtS where a ship in orbit starts to list forward and everyone starts falling toward the front of the bridge. Don't these ships have artificial gravity? It went out you say? Nope, 'cause objects in a stable orbit have zero gravity, no matter how close they are to the planet. Oops!
Echo7Solo
11-12-2008, 03:35 PM
tombstone when both brothers are shot in the same night.
NeilJam
11-12-2008, 08:47 PM
I remember hearing about that on the news. I'm amazed that it didn't get more publicity, but that would require the mainstream media to break their 40+ year streak of bashing our troops.
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time.
I never see the media "bashing our troops." That's just an attack used by one side that thinks we should never question any government actions when their people are in office. I know in the 70's some who opposed the Vietnam war took that out on the vets, which was not the right way for them to vent that anger. However, now when people disagree with the government's actions I see them as questioning those who make the decisions to send troops to war, not bashing the troops who have no choice in the matter.
zartan1
11-12-2008, 09:19 PM
I never see the media "bashing our troops." That's just an attack used by one side that thinks we should never question any government actions when their people are in office. I know in the 70's some who opposed the Vietnam war took that out on the vets, which was not the right way for them to vent that anger. However, now when people disagree with the government's actions I see them as questioning those who make the decisions to send troops to war, not bashing the troops who have no choice in the matter.
Well if by now you haven't noticed the media's one-sided coverage of our troops then you probably agree with what they report, or don't watch the news at all.
When was the last time you saw a story about the Iraqi people glad Saddam's dead and that we're building roads, schools and hospitals over there on our dollar? Probably never.
Ask one of the vets who come home only to sign up to go back again because of the good we're doing, they'll tell ya what you aren't seeing.
The media's all too eager to show John Kerry saying our troops are raping and murdering in the night, or have some anonymous Iraqi saying they were abused.
Honestly if it weren't for Fox News and talk radio we would all be led to believe our troops are evil butchers. Hmmmm, maybe that's why the left is trying so hard to reinstate the fairness doctrine to silence them.
Zefram
11-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Yet another perfectly good thread about to go up in flames.
Irid70
11-12-2008, 10:00 PM
Yet another perfectly good thread about to go up in flames.
Indeed. Which part of "no political content" do people never get?
NeilJam
11-12-2008, 10:12 PM
Indeed. Which part of "no political content" do people never get?
My apologies to all for responding there, but I can't let baseless accusations go without a counter-argument. Maybe the thread will get closed, but it would be better if a mod could delete the posts from zartan1 on this page and my above response.
back on topic: I hate when movies go directly from a scene in the middle of the day to a scene with a pitch black sky when it seem that only 10 minutes should have elapsed between the events in the two scenes.
One thing I do like is when movies get actual reporters from a national network or a local station for news stories that appear on televisions in the movie.
zartan1
11-12-2008, 10:16 PM
Dig hole in sand insert head. Now that I'm oblivious to the world around me its safe the respond.
LaDracul
11-13-2008, 09:28 AM
Let's see...I saw "Role Models" a few days ago, and Wheeler refers to KISS as four Jewish guys...erm, it was three Jewish guys and an Irish dude. Yeesh.
Xerofall
11-14-2008, 03:42 AM
The movie Troy... had barely anything accurate in that entire movie...
Agamemnon was not killed in Troy! Grrr. He was killed by his wife upon his return home for sacrificing his daughter to the gods for wind to push his boats to Troy to begin with. Hehe.
Cars launching over San Francisco streets...
Being able to park right in front of a business you're going to. They never show people walking half a block to a bar. They always seems to have a nice spot right by the door.
And finally.....
SEX!!! It always looks so easy and passionate on TV and the movies... but in reality, it's hard work, sweating, cramped muscles, uncomfortable positions, friction burns, smelly privates and both people usually finish at the same time... that's pretty inaccurate, lol.
1SGHauser
11-14-2008, 04:30 AM
Ummm...pretty much EVERY component of the romantic comedy genre. I think there's more fantasy in those films than in actual fantasy and science fiction films.
I tell my wife this all the time. Not to generalize, but women today have a skewed view of relationships based off the romantic comedy propaganda machine.
It never happens that way. If it did, I would get laid more.
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