View Full Version : Tiger Force Duke G.I. Joe Modern ERA Review
Eopie Herder
10-03-2008, 08:39 PM
I was looking forward to this figure. A corrected Duke, perhaps not traditional V1 color scheme, but the flaws corrected. No more slit wrist arms. No more diaper crotch. As shown in this image from the Hasbro booth during JoeCon...
http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=1373
But, sadly the production figure utilizes the old crotch, and the fixed arms, while aesthetically pleasing, are very temperamental and fall off if the wind blows hard. Not to mention the elbow range of motion stayed the same. For the record, I will still take them over the slit wrists any day of the week.
Aside from the fixed arms, Duke utilizes the same molds for the rest of the figure. From a personal standpoint, I have hated that head since the 5-packs come out. It looks like an overgrown child to me. Terrible. I knew this would still be the same, but please at some point Hasbro, make a new head for poor Duke. One that has the features of an adult, if you don't mind.
Duke does come with new accessories though, and they are a major improvement. He comes with a Helmet, Backpack, Removable Bandoleer, Binoculars, a pistol and rifle. The bandoleer and helmet are the same, but the pack, binocs and rifle are new, and accurate to his original release. I love them. They certainly bring back memories for Duke, much more so than the 2007 5-Pack release did. Kudos for doing something that some may consider trivial, but others find to be a joy.
Overall, this is a filler figure that still suffers from articulation problems, and overload of character.
Figure Rating 4 out of 10 (and the accessories pushed it that high)
(and sorry...I as surprised to find that I had no access to a vintage counterpart to compare)
SNAKE_EYES1975
10-03-2008, 08:53 PM
Im not really a duke hater..not quite a lover..But I think this one looks real cool. I agree the head is getting pretty old. Even the very first duke had a more mature, veteran look.
The accossory are just PERFECT. I really wish they would have focused on his articulation tho. Duke IS soppossed to be the figure every one has, and therefore be almost the "flagship" of capabilitys, but no..still daipered...and the elbows loos like they dont bend past 45deg. if the arms fall out easy..are we SURE this is an improvment? I wish they would dump the long wrist idea and just go for articulation in the wrist, but hey, thats just me..
Color scheme looks great
Duffmann
10-03-2008, 08:56 PM
i like this figure a lot, i would give it a 7 out of 10 myself, but that is me.
SNAKE_EYES1975
10-03-2008, 09:01 PM
Yea..I agree...Its a seven from me. I would only hold a 3 or 4 for major bludd, and that is my MOST despised figure they have done yet..
Monkeywrench
10-03-2008, 09:08 PM
Thanks for the review. I can't believe we got another diaper crotch. I like the arms in the pics as I don't own this figure yet. It's awesome getting his gun finally. I do agree that it's time for a new face.
Gung.Heaux
10-03-2008, 09:13 PM
looks promising............anyone have a paraviper to review? i have special plans for one of those that will drive my wife insane...and maybe the dog a bit too.
bwahahaha
Eopie Herder
10-03-2008, 09:17 PM
looks promising............anyone have a paraviper to review? i have special plans for one of those that will drive my wife insane...and maybe the dog a bit too.
bwahahaha
All of Wave 10 will be reviewed in the next few days. I'm trying to put up one a day.
steelbrig
10-03-2008, 09:32 PM
Nice review! This Duke has a new improved look. I guess Hasbro is starting to listen.
mercer2
10-03-2008, 09:46 PM
which part of his arm has the peg the lower or the upper
spacemonkeymafia
10-03-2008, 09:50 PM
So how are the new Duke Arms? Do they really fall of that easy?
tuan_tran73
10-03-2008, 09:50 PM
This Duke is the coolest Duke so far. It deserves 7 out of 10 to me.
Eopie Herder
10-03-2008, 10:05 PM
which part of his arm has the peg the lower or the upper
Upper
So how are the new Duke Arms? Do they really fall of that easy?
Yes. Anytime I went to move his arm, they started to come loose.
barbecue
10-04-2008, 01:01 AM
That new TF Duke figure looks cool. I will get one when I see it on retail.
Agent-GHQ
10-04-2008, 02:05 AM
Wel made and with excellent accessories!!
ParatrooperCarbine
10-04-2008, 08:34 PM
Among the reasons I love this figure, it comes with the SMG Stalker should have come with! So when I get TF Duke, he can carry an M16 and Stalker can have his SMG back!
COBRACOLLECTOR
10-04-2008, 08:35 PM
well i was planning to pass on this Fig and this review made me wanna do just that
im going for the Croc & Mutt from this wave after that ill scoop up the rest slowly
xFlintx
10-04-2008, 09:18 PM
I am really looking foward to getting my TF Duke, as I am a big fan of Tiger Force(Here's hoping for more TF figures). I'm especially happy he comes with his original gun (which my friends and I always called the nail gun and I hope to get a few extra of those).
I remember as a kid being mad TF Duke had brown hair even though the card art depicted him as blonde. Now I'm kinda upset he doesn't have it, but I guess a little brown paint could fix that if I really need it that way.
Thanks for the review, it makes me even more excited to receive my figures in the mail.
Scoop
10-04-2008, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the review. I can't believe we got another diaper crotch. I like the arms in the pics as I don't own this figure yet. It's awesome getting his gun finally. I do agree that it's time for a new face.
As far as the "diaper" crotch goes I can't really tell from the pics if that is the same "diaper" crotch from the 5-pack and Wave 4 Duke or the updated retooled "fixed diaper" crotch that came with the Wave 7 Duke with jetpack and flag.
I didn't think we would be getting a fixed looking crotch like the updated Snake Eyes mold has, but I figured we would get the same one that came with the Wave 7 Duke.
Try to match up those figures to see if there is a difference.
XVoodooDollX
10-04-2008, 10:26 PM
I was looking forward to this figure. A corrected Duke, perhaps not traditional V1 color scheme, but the flaws corrected. No more slit wrist arms. No more diaper crotch. As shown in this image from the Hasbro booth during JoeCon...
http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=1373
But, sadly the production figure utilizes the old crotch, and the fixed arms, while aesthetically pleasing, are very temperamental and fall off if the wind blows hard. Not to mention the elbow range of motion stayed the same. For the record, I will still take them over the slit wrists any day of the week.
Aside from the fixed arms, Duke utilizes the same molds for the rest of the figure. From a personal standpoint, I have hated that head since the 5-packs come out. It looks like an overgrown child to me. Terrible. I knew this would still be the same, but please at some point Hasbro, make a new head for poor Duke. One that has the features of an adult, if you don't mind.
Duke does come with new accessories though, and they are a major improvement. He comes with a Helmet, Backpack, Removable Bandoleer, Binoculars, a pistol and rifle. The bandoleer and helmet are the same, but the pack, binocs and rifle are new, and accurate to his original release. I love them. They certainly bring back memories for Duke, much more so than the 2007 5-Pack release did. Kudos for doing something that some may consider trivial, but others find to be a joy.
Overall, this is a filler figure that still suffers from articulation problems, and overload of character.
Figure Rating 4 out of 10 (and the accessories pushed it that high)
(and sorry...I as surprised to find that I had no access to a vintage counterpart to compare)
As of this posting I declare all other dukes OBSOLETE.
genoneguy
10-04-2008, 10:33 PM
Any idea when we might actually be able to buy these wave 10 figures?
crock master
10-04-2008, 10:45 PM
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk173/Youre_in_for_it_now/header2.jpg
jezones
10-04-2008, 11:09 PM
what would have made this better is for him to have a red uniform with rescue painted down his left leg. a funny hat and white boots, and dont forget the cool green sun glasses. and called lifeline. i guess thats to much to ask for. but on a serious note. tigerforce duke looks pretty cool but i'll be keeping this one where i keep tigerforce flint. in a box in the closet.
I feel sick of dukes are produced again and again.
MAJOR WOLF
10-04-2008, 11:22 PM
Good review and nice figure!
rob0213
10-04-2008, 11:27 PM
I wonder if we are going to get Tiger Force vehicles? Duke looks OK, but it's another Duke.
Gung.Heaux
10-04-2008, 11:36 PM
All of Wave 10 will be reviewed in the next few days. I'm trying to put up one a day.
excellent..........i plan on suspending the paraviper about 5-6 feet over the chair at the computer desk. wife's gonna crap.
rob0213
10-04-2008, 11:45 PM
excellent..........i plan on suspending the paraviper about 5-6 feet over the chair at the computer desk. wife's gonna crap.
I have Flight pods surrounding my computer, and my girlfriend is always swatting at them like they're gonna attack her. Really funny stuff. Some day i am gonna come home and they will be "shot down", lol.
1SGHauser
10-04-2008, 11:55 PM
Sweet figure. I love any and all Dukes. This one will be tops until the next one comes along. I'm looking forward to the DVD Pack version. A quick head swap away from the screaming Duke and I'll have one sweet figure in Sunbow colors. Can't wait. As for the SMG, I have a ton of the old ones. I swapped holsters with Flint, so now Duke has a green holster and a green SMG. Even my Stalker has a Black SMG. This assortment is being shipped from BBTS as we speak...should have him Tuesday. Can't wait... From what I See, nothing to complain about here. 8 out of 10 for me. Lost two points for the same crotch and the fact that he's tiger force and not the original release. Here's to hoping we get a corrected Duke in original gear. I'm probably the only one, but I feel that Hasbro will comply.
mandingo_rex
10-05-2008, 12:06 AM
I despise anything Tiger Force. The only one I even wanted was TF Flint, and that was for the fixed arms, and the fact that he wasn't a hard-to-find $35+ opener. A shame they have to release the "fixed" arms on the TF versions of either Flint and Duke. With that cuff on the sleeve, I have NO idea why they originally put the joint in the middle of the arm. I'm sorry, I just can't see it. NO IDEA.
The ONLY reason for getting this is the accessories. Pretty much like the freaking jetpack Duke.
How they couldn't put the newer crotch that was on Jetpack Duke, I don't kow... Aparently, he STILL doesn't have proper range of motion, and a shame to hear about the arms STILL not having much elbow movement.
Of course, this never was anything I was looking forward to, but for Duke collectors, I'd be pissed (Actually, anyone who has bought much of the 25th line is by default a "Duke Collector", sadly). And I'm a huge fan of Duke, I think the best one so far was the v1 they released in the 5-pack. The "Tiger" Force color scheme doesn't look terribly garish on Duke or Flint, but please, I just want fixed-arm, correct colors in ONE figure, that doesn't require any swapping or painting. How hard is it to get a "correct" Duke or Flint? Seriously?
The uniform reminds me of the Boy Scout uniform. Pants and a shirt and a neckerchief where NOTHING goes together. He should have shorts and knee-high socks. Anyone who was a Boy Scout will know what I'm talking about. The uniform was terrible.
NIPPER
10-05-2008, 12:18 AM
When they originally said this Duke had fixed arms I thought they were talking about the range of motion in the elbows. This is disappointing to hear.
The joints in the middle of the arms doesn't bother me half as much as the lack of articulation.
Dutchmaster29
10-05-2008, 12:48 AM
His arms might be weak but I'm getting him! He's as close to the Duke Mail in I got as a kid. That's what this is all about for me: The memories. He looks cool!
jjk1120
10-05-2008, 01:02 AM
Other than the crotch, I like him.
Great review, as always! Thanks!
ceraurus
10-05-2008, 01:05 AM
I'll probably use my TF Duke's arms for some other custom character eventually. For now, I'll give the weapon to Stalker and the binoculars to the box set Duke. Once the 5th DVD set comes out, that will be the Duke on my shelf (minus the screaming head).
mandingo_rex
10-05-2008, 01:39 AM
Other than the crotch, I like him.
That's what sh... Er, Michael Scott would be all OVER that.
catofadiferntskn
10-05-2008, 03:26 AM
I never had a TF Duke, cause I hated TF figures as a kid. I thought the colors were stupid, but I love the subdued TF colors of the 25th line. I would love a matching set of figures.
I dont get how Flint can the be the TF leader while Duke is on the team, but whatever, I was so excited about this fig, but WTF is up with the older non corrected crotch. We got the corrected fig 6-9 months ago...this is ridiculous. I really hope this is an isolated fig, or early released example like when early Stalkers/BH/FF came with diapers then corrected, I doubt it since we know this has been out for a while. F*cking unacceptable...
So just out of curiosity how do the Duke lower arms fit on Viper lowers arms?
If anyone else has TF Duke, Please let us know if it still has the old crotch.
Last thing i case Hasbro reads or cares...Please keep the TF coming, and please keep the colors like these 2, no bright yellow...
GI abe444
10-05-2008, 04:00 AM
I'll be looking for him when i head back to the Texas later on this month!! I 'm not gonna care if his arms are messed up or crotch is still the same. He will remain carded like my wave 4 one is ! He is still a favorite of mine .
Agent-GHQ
10-05-2008, 04:14 AM
Any idea when we might actually be able to buy these wave 10 figures?Word on the street is that select locations has already arrived in retails and the e-tailers too. Obviously, not quite in full force and I'm disturbed by that too.
DarthBrett
10-05-2008, 04:14 AM
Looks like they gave him a green helmet. In his card art, the old figure and even the figure shown at the con it was brown.
butter_the_pure
10-05-2008, 04:23 AM
Yeah whats up with the helmet color swap?
fierce krypton
10-05-2008, 11:31 AM
thank you for the child head comment!!!! Whoever does there face sculpts at hasbro sucks bad! I only own one Joe other than 2 snake eyes' from the 25th style, all the other guys I have bought have been cobras. The chins are always fat looking and ugly. The only one I have liked so far is Stalker. Gung ho looks retarded, bazooka looks retarded, and Duke looks retarded. Hawk isnt terrible but other than that the head sculpts suck.
fierce krypton
10-05-2008, 11:33 AM
Also I think you should automatically reduce the score of any review by at least 1 point when it is a remake.... no Cobra commander or Duke should be capable of anything higher than a 9.
unclejoey
10-05-2008, 02:45 PM
What a piece of shit. Looks like shit, moves like shit, and falls apart on contact. They should put a sticker on the package that says "FANBOY SPECIAL", because I don't know who the hell else would buy this joke. The arms, which can't even bend at a 90 degree angle, fall apart on contact...hilarious.
Jbluez
10-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Word on the street is that select locations has already arrived in retails and the e-tailers too. Obviously, not quite in full force and I'm disturbed by that too.
Ever since hisstank announced that they were seen in Southern California, I've been looking like Crazy. I live in Southern California. All I have ever found is that stupid revision case of waves 6 and 8. Even at the Scalper convention. [-----Frank & Son Collectible Show-----] (http://www.fs-collectibles.com) It's driving me batty. >:(
Jbluez
10-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Also I think you should automatically reduce the score of any review by at least 1 point when it is a remake.... no Cobra commander or Duke should be capable of anything higher than a 9.
Well, I disagree. Snake eyes version 3 is one of the best figures they have done so far.
quintonarledge
10-05-2008, 04:47 PM
I may be in the vast minority of Tankers, but I actually want to see at least one more Modern Era/25A Duke! I'd love a version paying homage to the 1992 Duke.
DPrime
10-05-2008, 06:29 PM
Among the reasons I love this figure, it comes with the SMG Stalker should have come with! So when I get TF Duke, he can carry an M16 and Stalker can have his SMG back!
I'd actually like to see Stalker rereleased with a black version of that gun... fix his hands so they're not repainted gloves, too.
When they originally said this Duke had fixed arms I thought they were talking about the range of motion in the elbows. This is disappointing to hear.
The joints in the middle of the arms doesn't bother me half as much as the lack of articulation.
Agreed, and this is disappointing, BUT the cuff wouldn't probably look as good if the joint cut into it. At least it looks a lot better, and that's enough for me to buy it. Here's hoping they can make an "ultimate" Duke without the slit wrists AND have good articulation, maybe someday...
spacemonkeymafia
10-05-2008, 07:52 PM
I like these Colors better than TF Flints Colors......Im switching Faces and Webgear........
Dreadnok619
10-06-2008, 10:00 AM
I already switched the TF Dukes lower arms with green shirt arms as the green is the same color. I guess Hasbro missed the whole point about the problem with those arms. I took the TF Duke hands and dremeled them out and replaced the Tele-Vipers hands. They look more accurate now.
steve2477
10-07-2008, 05:42 PM
He looks great, looking forward to buying this figure.
Tomahawk
10-07-2008, 05:49 PM
cool, thanks
steelbrig
10-08-2008, 10:29 AM
I may be in the vast minority of Tankers, but I actually want to see at least one more Modern Era/25A Duke! I'd love a version paying homage to the 1992 Duke.
I like this version of Duke too! I know this is not the end of of a long string of Dukes to come!
Oh well... come what may! Bring it on!
~Synder Corps.~
10-11-2008, 02:32 AM
GREAT REVIEW
My only complaint...I actually like the Duke Head. I've used it for a few customs myself, and think it looks better as the "every-man" than say, the original Flash/Grand Slam (I've replaced Flash's head with Duke/s and given him a brown dye job being as Flash has always been my fave.)
Nice to get a closer look at the acc.
THE ENEMY
10-12-2008, 04:54 AM
It seems on mine, and in the pics, that there's been shrinkage on the head mold. It makes him look like even more of a pinhead, and makes the helmet fit loosely.
1SGHauser
10-12-2008, 05:02 AM
It seems on mine, and in the pics, that there's been shrinkage on the head mold. It makes him look like even more of a pinhead, and makes the helmet fit loosely.
It is smaller. I noticed this immediately after I added him in with the rest of my collection. Tiger Force Flint had the same deal... Not sure why.
Monkeywrench
10-13-2008, 07:23 PM
I really like this Duke. The arms are great
arch2b
10-17-2008, 10:25 PM
worst figure i own to date. or maybe i just got the factory reject but the left hand simply falls off when i put a weapon in the hand. the right hand is a bit tighter fit but not by much. it's utter garbage to me when you have to go back every once in awhile just to push his hands back on.
mandingo_rex
10-23-2008, 03:00 AM
worst figure i own to date. or maybe i just got the factory reject but the left hand simply falls off when i put a weapon in the hand. the right hand is a bit tighter fit but not by much. it's utter garbage to me when you have to go back every once in awhile just to push his hands back on.
God, I so agree with you on this one.
I just opened him, mainly for his accessories and his torso (I'm making a toon-Flint out of it, if I can get rid of the flag, red on the collar, and paint the crotch to match Flint).
The arms, while aesthetically pleasing, actually function worse than the slit-wrists versions.
There's not enough arm above the elbow to grasp to bend the arms, so bending his right arm (facing him, my left) it pops off the little nipple-peg thing.
The B.A.T.s arms are supposed to come off and are a pain in the ass to get loose the first few times, Duke's are supposed to stay on and simply just fall off.
I'd like looking at him a lot better if not for those stupid black stripes on his pants and the red collar. I don't care if it's true to the original, he looks like a Boy Scout in it.
1SGHauser
10-23-2008, 03:03 AM
I think ANY Duke is gonna reap some hate based on the fact that there are so many of them, and so many with the original poor arm sculpt. So be default he is already missing a few points
For those who have trouble witht he new arms, try the boil method to allow the plastic to regain it's original molded shape then allow to cool or pinch it a bit and run some cold water on it to tighten it up a bit and you should be in business. It may just be stretched a bit.
Similar to the additional BAT arms...
mandingo_rex
10-23-2008, 03:09 AM
I think ANY Duke is gonna reap some hate based on the fact that there are so many of them, and so many with the original poor arm sculpt. So be default he is already missing a few points
For those who have trouble witht he new arms, try the boil method to allow the plastic to regain it's original molded shape then allow to cool or pinch it a bit and run some cold water on it to tighten it up a bit and you should be in business. It may just be stretched a bit.
Similar to the additional BAT arms...
Actually, I really love V1 Duke. That's the only one I wanted, and only one I really need. Other than the shit arms on him and perhaps the lack of correct accessories, he was pretty good. Fixed crotch/bikini crotch/whatever, I don't sit these guys down much, so I don't care so much about that...
I despise Tiger Force though, so that brings him down a few more points, the arms I would rather have on V1, but I'm not painting joints. I will say, TF Duke may have the best TF scheme though.
I wish the 5th DVD pack had a shirt color that wasn't so mustard, or he'd become my default Duke so long as I put another head on him.
To be honest, TF Duke has a much cleaner head paint app, he'll lose his head to V1 more than likely. Kinda Highlander-ish.
I don't mind Duke so much, he's a great figure... But unlike CC or Storm Shadow or Snake Eyes, he has ONE head, and we've seen it like 22 times now. We're all sick of Dukes.
catofadiferntskn
10-24-2008, 01:14 AM
I'm happy to see pics from other joe sites show a new (jet pack) duke torso with narrow crotch...This has made me super happy...
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