Renegades Continued

[VideoViper]

Didn't see this posted elsewhere:

According to G.I. Joe Action Figure and Toy Collecting News - A Real American Hero (http://www.arealamericanhero.com)
G.I. Joe Renegades Follow Up In the Works ~ G.I. Joe Action Figure and Toy Collecting News - A Real American Hero (http://www.arealamericanhero.com/2012/02/gi-joe-renegades-follow-up-in-works.html#more)

Great news Renegades fans! We've received word from a trusted source that a follow-up to the Hub's G.I. Joe: Renegades animated series is in the works. While we can't confirm if the season/series is in preliminary discussions or in development, we can verify aspirations to establish the new season/series as a continuation to the first season of Renegades and the plan to continue using Clément Sauvé's animation style. Despite some reports that Renegades underperformed, our source (who our twitter friend @twitziller is jokingly referring to as Deep-Six Throat) says Renegades actually did quite well.

Coincidentally, we see some possible similarities with the transitions of Renegades and the second season of the A Real American Hero animated series. If you recall, the first season of A Real American Hero centered around Duke and Scarlet as the lead characters, while season two shifted focus bringing Flint and Lady Jaye to the forefront. Could this changing of the guard be reprised 30 years later? While it's only a hypothetical scenario, it is an interesting possibility since Hasbro claims to have put Renegades on hiatus to explore ways to continue the G.I. Joe: Retaliation story through animation. We'll have more information as it becomes available.

[rip_cord]

cool news!

[PROVOST]

Good news indeed.......

[Troynos]

Am I the only one that reads that as "we hope to continue it".

There is nothing in there that says it's definately going forward. It doesn't even say that it's in the discussion phase.

And then the second paragraph is just hopeful guessing on direction.

[VideoViper]

Just copying what I heard.

[tkprime]

Woot!

[Black Llama]

I also hope they bring back Crystal Pepsi and 3D Dorito's. Maybe if I start a rumor online I too can make it true :D

[Griff]

I believe it when/IF I see it.

[MJjoe4life]

That would be cool if it happens.

[crock master]

im getting sleepy

[lilmonster777]

Don't tease ;)

[DrKain]

I don't see how it says Renegades may continue when it says tehy are looking into ways to continue Retaliation's story in cartoon form.

[ndb]

I heard this earlier. I hope its true!

[Zefram]

I'm cautiously optimistic. I really want to see the story continue. One of the reasons I was hesitent to collect the figures is that they will forever remain incomplete without Renegades Destro, Baroness, Roadblock, Mindbender, and Bio-Vipers.

[Gyre-Viper]

I also hope they bring back Crystal Pepsi and 3D Dorito's. Maybe if I start a rumor online I too can make it true :D



Hell yes! They always get rid of the good stuff don't they.

It's great news if they're hoping to get it going again.

And they SHOULD get it going again in some fashion. Hopefully taking everything that was great about Renegades and cleaning up the stuff that was kinda... eh. Honestly I think there's room for two cartoons. Maybe bring back Resolute on CN with some actual writing behind it (cough cough read as: hey how about get those IDW dudes involved) and then have Renegades on the Hub for the kids etc.

[kneroh]

I hear they're doing a live action ARAH cartoon based on the 90's commercials. They even secured all the original actors.

G.I. Joe long commercial for various toys (1993) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/dsQTkshMASM)

I just pray they came get the same writer!

Snow Job "We're going to knock you cold" Get it... because he works in the cold. PM me if you want to further elaborate. It works on SO many subtle levels.

[whitefox360]

My sources actually confirm this. So there does seem to be some weight behind what was posted. Im sure if the movies successful we'll be seeing all kinds of joe stuff. Though, that part's just common sense from my end.

Not to corrupt a wish, but the same homeless guy went on to also confirm that while there will be renegades baroness, mindbender, destro and etc, articulation will be cut down to retaliation standard for all future gi joe figures.

And that hasbro said, "suck it."

[Lody]

don't care

I'm not being roped back in

[Super Beast]

That's funny because didn't they just say it was cancelled at ToyFair?

[Dealer Destro]

Wonder if Duke gets knocked silly upside his head and falls out again.......into another dream like state.........where he hallucinates Fireflys with open nose masks and Mad Max Major Bludds......

[Dealer Destro]

Snow Job "We're going to knock you cold" Get it... because he works in the cold. PM me if you want to further elaborate. It works on SO many subtle levels.

I tell you what else works on those not so subtle levels..... those epic sigs of yours. They still get me everytime.

[Headman]

I hope it doesn't happen. I was kinda hoping for a good cartoon instead.

[Zefram]

My sources actually confirm this. So there does seem to be some weight behind what was posted. Im sure if the movies successful we'll be seeing all kinds of joe stuff. Though, that part's just common sense from my end.

Not to corrupt a wish, but the same homeless guy went on to also confirm that while there will be renegades baroness, mindbender, destro and etc, articulation will be cut down to retaliation standard for all future gi joe figures.

And that hasbro said, "suck it."

And this is why we can't have nice things.

[Raw Dog]

Maybe Retaliation will leave off at relatively the same place as the first season of Renegades so that a second season will work for both incarnations of G.I. Joe?

[brock Samson]

They need to get titmouse, Dan Norton or the guys that did avatar the last air bender to work on the next season and can these shitty character designs. No offense to the recently departed but the season 1 designs did not do the show or the line any favors.

[kneroh]

I tell you what else works on those not so subtle levels..... those epic sigs of yours. They still get me everytime.

Subtle was never my forte. Speaking of epic sigs though you have a mighty nice one there yourself, and custom in your avatar, SUPERB take!

[Dealer Destro]

Thank ye! ^

Lion-o and He-Man still rocks my socks off every time. (I stole that pic from you BTW. Control C is a mofukka!!! :))

[Super Beast]

They need to get titmouse, Dan Norton or the guys that did avatar the last air bender to work on the next season and can these shitty character designs. No offense to the recently departed but the season 1 designs did not do the show or the line any favors.

The avatar guys are too busy ruining Star Wars right now actually.

[crock master]

I also hope they bring back Crystal Pepsi and 3D Dorito's. Maybe if I start a rumor online I too can make it true :D

but we have Dr Pepper for men. we dont need that Maxheadroom New Coke crap

MAX HEADROOM COKE COMMERCIAL - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzxHDqUz8Sk)

[CG23]

Nice!

[Troops of Doom]

A new cartoon would be nice. Just forget the monsters and super powers this time.

[richalot]

I don't know why I'm defending my post from the cynicism on here, but there is a big difference between starting a rumor and reporting something from a source close to the project. I don't report news that I can't verify or news isn't from someone reputable. So have that with your 3D Doritos & Crystal Pepsi ;)

[RolandofGilead]

I'm glad to hear that Renegades has a good chance of coming back. I really enjoyed the show and the build up to the second season made it clear we were getting even closer to the ARAH Joe I know and love.

I hope this comes through.

[LtDom]

I'm glad to hear that Renegades has a good chance of coming back. I really enjoyed the show and the build up to the second season made it clear we were getting even closer to the ARAH Joe I know and love.

I hope this comes through.
^^my thoughts exactly^^

[Griff]

They need to get titmouse, Dan Norton or the guys that did avatar the last air bender to work on the next season and can these shitty character designs. No offense to the recently departed but the season 1 designs did not do the show or the line any favors.

The designs werent reallt the issue..it was the animation style that is what hurt it. Clement sauves style works great for non serious cartoons and such but for a show like gi joe it needs to have a mroe realistic approach to the animation. blocky imprportionate stuff can work for certain toons but i think somehting more realistic in style is needed if a new cartoon is in the works. (also rengades may not be called renegades but it may continue in the verse.)

[Gyre-Viper]

I don't know why I'm defending my post from the cynicism on here, but there is a big difference between starting a rumor and reporting something from a source close to the project. I don't report news that I can't verify or news isn't from someone reputable. So have that with your 3D Doritos & Crystal Pepsi ;)


Pay no mind to some of the cynical responses. Take it from someone who has tried to report things now and again. Don't necessarily take it as people questioning you or your source or anything like that... despite how much I try and put out there people still question me all the time. It's just the nature of this community. It's why so many people with things to actually say... don't post anywhere, anymore, really. They either get slagged or just ignored.

I will say though that in regards to your info... there's been things reported before about what people heard from Hasbro at a convention etc and it's not always panned out for whatever reason. I mean first Kwinn was going to be an NYCC exclusive and now someone is reporting Hasbro won't be attending NYCC. I don't think anyone knows what to think at this point as both of those are really crazy to consider. 1) Hasbro doing an NYCC exclusive? and 2) Hasbro NOT attending NYCC? Both of those are just odd as it is. So it's not so much that people are accusing you of anything or saying you're flat out wrong (although I'm sure some are... join the club). It's that the Hasbro word of mouth thing is always tough. Designers and marketers and corporate people etc... sometimes give conflicting info. Toy Fair is obviously a different atmosphere than JoeCon for one. Sometimes stuff is just old news but someone else didn't get the memo. My point is that even things that come seemingly directly from Hasbro via Q+A's or panels at con... don't always happen so it's hard for people to get behind second-hand info no matter how good it might be.

[Rainbow Viper]

Well I would imagine Renegades is getting more viewers now than before because it comes on twice everyday on the hub. When it first started it was only shown a few times over the weekend. That may also be why they waited a year to release the figures. Maybe this has given them the idea to possibly do another season or follow up to renegades. They probably are officially waiting to make a decision though until closer to the release of Retaliation or maybe they are waiting to see how well that movie does before they green light a new toon.

[Troynos]

maybe they are waiting to see how well that movie does before they green light a new toon.

^ This, more then anything, will decide the fault of the Joe toon.

If Retaliation does great, expect a cartoon that follows that story.

If Retaliation doesn't, then wouldn't surprise me to see them return to Renegades.

[VideoViper]

As I said before Hasbro/paramount know more about this stuff than we do. (They see the finished product sometimes before we even know about it.)

We know at some point they will want to put out a cartoon, The big question is whether its based on Renegades/other story or the Movie. The answer to that is problably based on how well they think the movie will do. Not saying the movie is good or bad but what they think of it reflects some of the design choices they made.

I'd prefer to see a continuation of Renegades because the story is so much better, even if it has some movieverse thrown in.
A lot of people don't like the animation style, (I didn't at first) but it has to do a lot with current ani-styles which allow animation companies to product product faster. & That's not changing much anytime soon. Besides the story is more important to me. I can adapt to anything else if I like what I see.

[richalot]

Pay no mind to some of the cynical responses. Take it from someone who has tried to report things now and again. Don't necessarily take it as people questioning you or your source or anything like that... despite how much I try and put out there people still question me all the time. It's just the nature of this community. It's why so many people with things to actually say... don't post anywhere, anymore, really. They either get slagged or just ignored.

I will say though that in regards to your info... there's been things reported before about what people heard from Hasbro at a convention etc and it's not always panned out for whatever reason. I mean first Kwinn was going to be an NYCC exclusive and now someone is reporting Hasbro won't be attending NYCC. I don't think anyone knows what to think at this point as both of those are really crazy to consider. 1) Hasbro doing an NYCC exclusive? and 2) Hasbro NOT attending NYCC? Both of those are just odd as it is. So it's not so much that people are accusing you of anything or saying you're flat out wrong (although I'm sure some are... join the club). It's that the Hasbro word of mouth thing is always tough. Designers and marketers and corporate people etc... sometimes give conflicting info. Toy Fair is obviously a different atmosphere than JoeCon for one. Sometimes stuff is just old news but someone else didn't get the memo. My point is that even things that come seemingly directly from Hasbro via Q+A's or panels at con... don't always happen so it's hard for people to get behind second-hand info no matter how good it might be.

Gary,

I've learned to ignore the cynical responses and negativity a long time ago. It's why my post count here is so low. Ha! By my post, I did want to clarify, however, that I'm not just starting a rumor. I'm reporting something from a very reputable source. To your point, yes, things can change and it's my understanding that they're still in the early stages of this second take on animated, so it's very possible it may take a complete 180 degree turn. I just wanted to put it out there that something is in the works--behind the scenes--despite what we're being told.

As far as Kwinn, that was me ;) The person who told me that Kwinn would be the NYCC exclusive was someone on the Hasbro team that is an integral part of the brand. When this individual told me about Kwinn, it was at NYCC and I'm guessing it was before Hasbro sat down to look at their ROI for NYCC. I note this because if you compare the lines from the Hasbro Toy Shop booth at NYCC to SDCC--which had full lines from day one until closing--the lines were empty after the first day. Fast forward to Toy Fair and this individual is also the one who told me Hasbro won't be back for NYCC. I even think a few other people around us overheard the conversation. Again to your point, things can and do change. I'm just happy that Hasbro is exploring every avenue possible in getting Kwinn to us, even if they don't always pan out.

I guess my point is I don't want to make my reputation on rumors. My goal is to build credibility among the community with good, credible and factual reporting--not putting something out there for the sake of shaking a stick in the hornet's nest. If you read something reported by me, you know that it's gone through the ringer when it comes to fact-checking and it's coming from a good source. That was the reason for my reply to the "cynics" on this thread.

Phew! I need to stop reporting news and just keep taking pictures for the archive. This news stuff can get you in hot water, LOL.

[Headman]

My sources are telling me that Renegades sucked and hasbro knew it, so they won't be continuing it. That's not my opinion, it's just what my inside sources are telling me.

[Jay West]

^ This, more then anything, will decide the fault of the Joe toon.

If Retaliation does great, expect a cartoon that follows that story.

If Retaliation doesn't, then wouldn't surprise me to see them return to Renegades.

Makes good sense. I think the best way to sell Joe regardless of Retaliation's performance is to make a much more traditional toon that could ambiguously be a follow up to the movie and Renegades. The Joes are an elite American anti terrorist group and Cobra are the bad guys.

Make Roadblock look a little more like the Rock, Duke look a little more like Renegades Duke. Pick from various source materials and make an Ultimate like toon that doesn't really focus on origins unless it is a new character.

[Zefram]

My sources are telling me that Renegades sucked and hasbro knew it, so they won't be continuing it. That's not my opinion, it's just what my inside sources are telling me.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Fail/1277690604296.jpg

[Headman]

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Fail/1277690604296.jpg

I'm just reporting what my sources are telling me.

[VideoViper]

I guess my point is I don't want to make my reputation on rumors. My goal is to build credibility among the community with good, credible and factual reporting--not putting something out there for the sake of shaking a stick in the hornet's nest. If you read something reported by me, you know that it's gone through the ringer when it comes to fact-checking and it's coming from a good source.

^^^ This is why I posted it, If it was just a facebook rumor I wouldn't have posted it, But since he put it on the site, I figured its creditable as anything else we have.

We know they are gonna come out with a new toon at some point, & as started above its in the early stages & anything can change.

[Iok]

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Hasbro will probably try to do some kind of animated GI Joe show to cash-in on the movie's buzz. However, I'm not sure if it's going to be Renegades - I mean, if you think about the current perception of Roadblock. To the average Joe (no pun intended) The Rock IS Roadblock. So if they tune-in and see an overweight, older, slightly comedic guy with crazy sideburns complaining about his truck not working properly, they're going to be confused.

And even if - as has been suggested - there's more of a Flint/Lady Jaye focus (which would make sense, given they're pretty prominent in the movie) their Renegades and Retaliation looks, characters and dynamic are completely different.

I'd love it if there WAS a new show, for sure. I'm just not sure how they can shoehorn the two continuities into a bundle that works.

[DavAnthony]

I'd really like a more detailed animation style, no offense to the late Mr. Sauve, but I never felt that style translated well at all to animation.

[CrimsonGuard101]

What they realy meant was Renegades is being looked at to continue on the Retaliation Movie verse based on the the Resolute animation style so the kiddies wont be confused and can buy a toy line from a movie and from ther cartoon coninuation....
following the blockbuster success of GI JOE Retaliation.

Seriously? Do we need to revist a cancelled and dead show? Its main animator is gone and they are going to have to find somone to do as good a job? Good luck with that....

Long as the Rock as Roadblock replaces that looser sideburn yuppie then sure...and NO MORE RIPCORD and lame Dr. Doggie Howserbender...

[Zefram]

Long as the Rock as Roadblock replaces that looser sideburn yuppie then sure...

Yuppie?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg

[kneroh]

Yuppie?

You just need to tighten those loose sideburns.

[CrimsonGuard101]

Yuppie?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/You-keep-using-that-word.jpg

I dunno i was at a loss of wrods, yuppie was the first word that filled the void...

[Nightrain]

Sorry Bro, the butthurt settled in long ago. You blew it.

[Gyre-Viper]

Gary,

I've learned to ignore the cynical responses and negativity a long time ago. It's why my post count here is so low. Ha! By my post, I did want to clarify, however, that I'm not just starting a rumor. I'm reporting something from a very reputable source. To your point, yes, things can change and it's my understanding that they're still in the early stages of this second take on animated, so it's very possible it may take a complete 180 degree turn. I just wanted to put it out there that something is in the works--behind the scenes--despite what we're being told.

As far as Kwinn, that was me ;) The person who told me that Kwinn would be the NYCC exclusive was someone on the Hasbro team that is an integral part of the brand. When this individual told me about Kwinn, it was at NYCC and I'm guessing it was before Hasbro sat down to look at their ROI for NYCC. I note this because if you compare the lines from the Hasbro Toy Shop booth at NYCC to SDCC--which had full lines from day one until closing--the lines were empty after the first day. Fast forward to Toy Fair and this individual is also the one who told me Hasbro won't be back for NYCC. I even think a few other people around us overheard the conversation. Again to your point, things can and do change. I'm just happy that Hasbro is exploring every avenue possible in getting Kwinn to us, even if they don't always pan out.

I guess my point is I don't want to make my reputation on rumors. My goal is to build credibility among the community with good, credible and factual reporting--not putting something out there for the sake of shaking a stick in the hornet's nest. If you read something reported by me, you know that it's gone through the ringer when it comes to fact-checking and it's coming from a good source. That was the reason for my reply to the "cynics" on this thread.

Phew! I need to stop reporting news and just keep taking pictures for the archive. This news stuff can get you in hot water, LOL.


I hope you don't think my Kwinn example was criticism. It was just an example that came to mind. And no, not because it was you who posted it. heheheh.

[Nemesis*Prime]

The only way I could get excited about this is if Hasbro changed the animation style for the second season.

[Zefram]

The only way I could get excited about this is if Hasbro changed the animation style for the second season.

I have no desire to see the style changed. The only time it didn't work was in still pictured. The animation itself looked excellent.

[richalot]

I hope you don't think my Kwinn example was criticism. It was just an example that came to mind. And no, not because it was you who posted it. heheheh.

LOL I didn't. Pretty ironic though ;)

[Gyre-Viper]

LOL I didn't. Pretty ironic though ;)


my other options were pretty outdated or already over-discussed. heheheh.

[CrimsonGuard101]

The only way I could get excited about this is if Hasbro changed the animation style for the second season.

^total words if truff

[Zefram]

Sideburns are cool.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Desu/epicsideburnsareepic.png

[CrimsonGuard101]

Sideburns are cool.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Desu/epicsideburnsareepic.png

On that guy maybe...but skinny canckles and a dufus looking expressions does not a Roadblock make....I think they intended him to be on the ROC Fat Albert crossover...

[Superjoe74]

I have only seen a few episodes of Renegades and I cannot comment on much of the series but, I have all the figures- and, er, well...multiples of some!

[Trooper13]

Cool. They need to put Renegades S1 on Netflix. Like yesterday.

[samantha]

I would love to see them bring back the show.

[richalot]

my other options were pretty outdated or already over-discussed. heheheh.

Sure they were...you're just getting negative and cynical on us ;)

I just realized something I reported during SDCC that's come to reality (Airborne using the Data-Viper body) that no one believed me on so it should say something about my credibility on Kwinn and hopefully my Renegades info (though the info is from a completely different sources):

"We've also confirmed that the Hasbro team will find a way to release the Data-Viper, but they weren't certain how, yet."

Comic-Con 2011: Hasbro Booth - Preview Night ~ G.I. Joe Action Figure and Toy Collecting News - A Real American Hero (http://www.arealamericanhero.com/2011/07/comic-con-2011-hasbro-booth-preview.html)

[uberthawk]

hasbro do us right? wow!

[Tuga Viper]

Would love to see the continuation of Renegades. Hopefully this is true.


EM

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

Well...I'll say this, I see ZERO reason why the Renegades 'Universe' couldn't carry on maybe not as Renegades mainly for two reasons.

1) the concept of Joes on the run is essentially the next film.
2) they have essentially resolved our Renegade Joes on the run storyline.

But that being said the series ended on the note that the Joes have been vindicated and there is no reason why it can't continue from there as a new name new series.

THAT being said I think this sounds like its still in the earliest of stages of planning. And the one thing I do know is that it seems like Hasbro has the same disfunction most of the entertainment world has these days...'Lets just reinvent it'...so we'll see what happens.

[Monkeywrench]

A season 2 of Renegades would be kick ass

[Shin Densetsu]

I think the outcome of Retaliation will dictate what the next series will be like, be it a Renegades continuation or not.

If Hasbro opts for an all new movie influenced cartoon(yet not in continuity with the movie), maybe Isenberg can write a Renegades comic for IDW like he did for Transformers Animated after that ended.

[Angry.Android]

I also hope they bring back Crystal Pepsi and 3D Dorito's. Maybe if I start a rumor online I too can make it true :D


Man, this would be awesome...i dearly miss 3D Doritos.

[Havok]

I'm just happy to see more Gi joe on TV. If we keep seeing writing as good as renegades I'll be happy

[Griff]

I also hope they bring back Crystal Pepsi and 3D Dorito's. Maybe if I start a rumor online I too can make it true :D

Hey man crystal pepsi was frickin AWESOME!!!! I'D KILL FOR THEM TO BRING THAT BACK....they brought back cactus cooler :D

[VideoViper]

Hasbro/parmount already know if Joe 2 is likely to sink or swim. So the idea of a new cartoon (given 8-9 month production time)
would mean that we could see a new series as early as January 2013; or more likely spring/summer 2013 is its a short season.
Sept 2013 if they get a good traditional 5 times a week run)

[Kitchen Viper]

I hope whether or not they continue "Renegades" they retain that show's writing staff; the writing was the strongest part of the show, IMHO. I couldn't care less if they re-designed the characters or not, but I would at least hope they made Stormy look a little more like the 30th card art.