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DESTRO
02-11-2012, 10:00 PM
Just a few quick updates on the SDCC 2012 Shockwave Destro Cobra B.A.T. exclusive. The box will be similar to last years Starscream Skystriker Comic Book Box. The Shockwave Tank will have the same styled old school comic book art box with Destro in the tank and a Army Of B.A.T.S surrounding them.

The back story...... Shockwave is looking to purchase the Alt mode of the new Retaliation H.I.S.S. Tank. They meet up and Shockwave pays Destro for the design.... he scans the prints and pays Destro off, then takes the alt mode of the H.I.S.S.!

Very Cool!

kneroh
02-11-2012, 10:01 PM
I want a 1,000 of them!

drunknmunky
02-11-2012, 10:03 PM
Do you always talk about yourself in third person?

I was wondering when Hasbro would decide to reuse the money molds. Didn't really see this coming though. I'm not a fan of Transformers but I think these crossovers are cool. This new tank will look good next to my Starscream.

Fast_Draw
02-11-2012, 10:04 PM
Did they give a price?

mister-x
02-11-2012, 10:04 PM
i only want the BAT

hahoo3
02-11-2012, 10:05 PM
sucks I'll have to pay triple to get this! But it does look cool!

DESTRO
02-11-2012, 10:05 PM
Do you always talk about yourself in third person?

I was wondering when Hasbro would decide to reuse the money molds. Didn't really see this coming though. I'm not a fan of Transformers but I think these crossovers are cool. This new tank will look good next to my Starscream.

I like how they made the boxes match up from last years exclusive.

misfit1015
02-11-2012, 10:05 PM
so damn awesome.

Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
02-11-2012, 10:06 PM
Oh man...I am gonna have to pay out the ass to get one of these aren't I?

I mean I would just be happy with Destro and the BAT.

DarkHorse
02-11-2012, 10:09 PM
I wasn't impressed when I first saw it, but now it's a must have. Mini Soundwave and tapes FFS!

Dem_Yoe'z!
02-11-2012, 10:10 PM
They did a good job with this one! I'll get 2; one to open, one MISB (which is what I did with the SDCC CC/Starscream)

Crazy Legs
02-11-2012, 10:15 PM
Since when do decepticons pay for stuff?

Cobra Terrorist
02-11-2012, 10:22 PM
Hmmm, let's look at the details:

1. A HISS with Decepticon badges.
2. A very "Shockwave-esque" gun on top.
3. Money Bags Destro is the driver.
4. It comes with a mini Soundwave tape deck and tapes.
5. It comes with Energon cubes (AND a cart to carry them on!).
6. It comes with a B.A.T.

Uhhhh, yeah. I will have one, please!

mav55mdash
02-11-2012, 10:27 PM
do they have any pictures of the box

McSoundwave
02-11-2012, 10:38 PM
Gawd f'n damnit! Just when I thought I was good to go and would not covet this exclusive, Hasbro had to drop that mini-Soundwave in there with the rest of that Shockwave hissy awesome pie! Ugh! Looks like I might have to make moves for more than just Jinx now.

CrimsonGuard101
02-11-2012, 10:41 PM
This story is lame...how am I supposed to buy more BATS to reinact the story! It only comes with one :( and if its limited to 1000 pieces...well how can i have 13,500? They need to single card that bat stat!

Barefoot Jedi
02-11-2012, 11:34 PM
I prophesy a lot of wheeling and dealing with these.

Who just wants the tank?

Who just wants the figures?

Who just wants Soundwave, etc.

IIIzoeIII
02-11-2012, 11:47 PM
kinda in love with this purple destro if he was black he would be one of the best I've seen..

also kinda blown away by the jinx's swords and scabbards
high quality stuff right there.

it would figure the best stuff is exclusives

Headman
02-11-2012, 11:48 PM
Where did Shockwave get money? He lives on Cybertron.

crock master
02-12-2012, 12:15 AM
im glad they are doing this. i dont want that jix one . just not my taste

CrimsonGuard101
02-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Where did Shockwave get money? He lives on Cybertron.

Energon is big money, you know how much energon costs these days...

jwmagick
02-12-2012, 12:26 AM
This story is lame...how am I supposed to buy more BATS to reinact the story! It only comes with one :( and if its limited to 1000 pieces...well how can i have 13,500? They need to single card that bat stat!

Did a rep say that at Toy Fair? 1000 seems extremely low for a SDCC exclusive. I hope they let the Joe and TF collector clubs order some.

CrimsonGuard101
02-12-2012, 12:28 AM
Did a rep say that at Toy Fair? 1000 seems extremely low for a SDCC exclusive.

no, i am just being facetious, but I am sure they will be limited Starscrem was

Kaboomskie
02-12-2012, 12:39 AM
It really saddens me that red Jinx does not have an alternate head...guess I have to buy 1 each of them bitches :(

Nictus
02-12-2012, 12:49 AM
Is it weird I only want the turret? I don't want techno destro or punk bat...and ive got enough money bags I just want that damned turret

Hellion42
02-12-2012, 12:56 AM
Is it weird I only want the turret?

Is it weird that I only want the ridiculous BAT? http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/lol.gif

Dunedain
02-12-2012, 01:07 AM
Is it weird to ask if its weird to do something?

Cdt Weasel
02-12-2012, 01:20 AM
Where did Shockwave get money? He lives on Cybertron.

He had the insecticons scan money and take its form. Once Destro isn't looking they can run off.

Beckley
02-12-2012, 01:27 AM
I prophesy a lot of wheeling and dealing with these.

Who just wants the tank?

Who just wants the figures?

Who just wants Soundwave, etc.

I hope so!
I know I want one to keep MIB, but I'd also just love a loose Shockwave HissTank.
So cool, so very very cool...

BCDX97
02-12-2012, 02:13 AM
Looking forward to putting this into my HTS shopping cart and ultimately not being able to buy it after an hour of frustration - because I don't wanna pay any more than HTS prices for it.

The Commander
02-12-2012, 02:15 AM
The ONLY thing that is going to bother me is when I put the alt hands on my BAT; they should have done either all silver or all purple arms because it's going to look funky otherwise

CobraCrimson
02-12-2012, 02:59 AM
Can't wait to get this one! I like it more than last years Starscream set and I never have liked Shockwave at all.....that HISS just looks so f'n badass! And how about the Destro with Decepticon logo on his vest, customizers going to fight to get some extra Destros just for the vest and money probably.

tycondrius
02-12-2012, 03:02 AM
very cool but why would Shockwave pay a human for prints couldn;t he just stolen them to get the alt mode :P

spiderpumpkin
02-12-2012, 03:35 AM
Hopefully the BATS make a midnight seller appearance.

Nemesis*Prime
02-12-2012, 05:26 AM
Last year's Starscream didn't impress me much.

But this . . . THIS I must have!

The UK GIJoe
02-12-2012, 07:42 AM
What are the prices for the 2 Jinx's & the Soundwave Hiss?
When will they be available to buy?

FLINT YOJOE
02-12-2012, 07:50 AM
this is all total BS.. i don't like inbreeding b/w Joes and any other brands for SDCC... I mean c'mon its all about military, real humans not space stuff like Star Wars/Transformers. This is what got me into Joes in the 80s, human beings, the good vs bad concept.

Zefram
02-12-2012, 08:07 AM
this is all total BS.. i don't like inbreeding b/w Joes and any other brands... I mean c'mon its all about military, real humans not space stuff like Star Wars/Transformers. This is what got me into Joes in the 80s, human beings, the good vs bad concept.

The B.A.T.s (1986) and Cobra-La (1987) would like to have a word with you.

Also, GI Joe and the Transformers have been meeting each-other since 1986.

Next time do a little research before serving everyone a taste of your wine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Gitrans.jpg/220px-Gitrans.jpg

FLINT YOJOE
02-12-2012, 08:17 AM
I get your point and I know about a few comic issues out of a thousand, but that's not what Joes is all about. You take less than 1% to make your point, there will be anomaly's. I think BAT is a great idea, army of Robot soldiers, hell we have had robots doing everything from manufacturing to war drones, of course controlled by human beings just as the BATS were. As for Cobra La, that was the worst thing ever.

Crossbreeding StarWars/Trans would be ok, but not Joes. I thought Aliens/Pred was a hit.


(The B.A.T.s (1986) and Cobra-La (1987) would like to have a word with you.

Also, GI Joe and the Transformers have been meeting each-other since 1986.

Next time do a little research before serving everyone a taste of your wine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Gitrans.jpg/220px-Gitrans.jpg

cobracobra
02-12-2012, 08:20 AM
Not looking forward to spending 100 plus on SDCC stuff but I will!

FLINT YOJOE
02-12-2012, 09:23 AM
ZEFRAM - She approves the NANO BAT and SHOCKWAVE ... Good enough for me..

Taterbot
02-12-2012, 09:35 AM
I will be getting this one as well. I like the color scheme and for some reason the BAT

Magick
02-12-2012, 09:47 AM
I prophesy a lot of wheeling and dealing with these.

Who just wants the tank?

Who just wants the figures?

Who just wants Soundwave, etc.

I want one with everything... Then I am willing to buy the Bats from people who do not want them.

tkprime
02-12-2012, 09:54 AM
I'm very pleased with shockwave, the whole package (Destro, gear, the B.A.T.) 100% AWESOME!!!!

Zefram
02-12-2012, 09:54 AM
ZEFRAM - She approves the NANO BAT and SHOCKWAVE ... Good enough for me..

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Dat%20Ass/1266643129910.jpg

fireflyguy
02-12-2012, 10:25 AM
There's no chance I'll make it to SDCC. How do I get one of these????

Magick
02-12-2012, 10:39 AM
There's no chance I'll make it to SDCC. How do I get one of these????

Either hope like hell you know someone on here that is going and not already picking up a crap load of stuff for others... or... play the HTS waiting game come Monday Morning after the Con and hope to god the site doesn't crash on you multiple times as you are trying to buy things like it does every other year. LOL

TYPHUS
02-12-2012, 10:56 AM
That Destro is NICE!!! Is he an all new figure?? I dont recognise the parts,except the vest (which is a Renegades one right??)

Magick
02-12-2012, 10:59 AM
That Destro is NICE!!! Is he an all new figure?? I dont recognise the parts,except the vest (which is a Renegades one right??)

He looks like he is has the Techno Viper body and vest with an ROC Destro head.

Xenos
02-12-2012, 11:20 AM
He looks like he is has the Techno Viper body and vest with an ROC Destro head.

I think the vest and legs come from the Renegades Cobra Trooper.

youdoitimbusy
02-12-2012, 11:46 AM
just want the destro

boff123
02-12-2012, 12:12 PM
really like this set. hope to snag one but probably wont happen since the transformers freaks go crazy for this stuff.

cobralalalala!
02-12-2012, 12:16 PM
This is a must buy for me. I may have to get two, even at eBay prices.

jwmagick
02-12-2012, 01:04 PM
no, i am just being facetious, but I am sure they will be limited Starscrem was

My apologies for missing the gest. I was really hoping to have a good chance of getting the SDCC Shockwave. But with the figures and accessories, this has just become as hopeless as last year's Starscream.

Draikar
02-12-2012, 01:25 PM
That BAT looks like the Interrogator v2 from 1993, I like it but wish they made the HISS tank from the v5 HISS not this updated HISS 5.1 or what ever its called.

fireflyguy
02-12-2012, 01:28 PM
Do you think we can count on someone molding that Soundwave and tapes?

CrimsonGuard101
02-12-2012, 01:50 PM
I get your point and I know about a few comic issues out of a thousand, but that's not what Joes is all about. You take less than 1% to make your point, there will be anomaly's. I think BAT is a great idea, army of Robot soldiers, hell we have had robots doing everything from manufacturing to war drones, of course controlled by human beings just as the BATS were. As for Cobra La, that was the worst thing ever.

Crossbreeding StarWars/Trans would be ok, but not Joes. I thought Aliens/Pred was a hit.


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disagree with this 9000%...in todays world and they keep trying to figure out how to get the Joe brand lifted, they keep totally ingoring the fusion of Joes and TF. They may be doing these to see how much we all clamor after them. How frikin awesome would be to go buy an optimus Prime figure that came with a Gi Joe figure like Hawk? Or Shockwave and destro or star scream and Cobra Commander? Before somone bicthes about of course they won't be scale, but having the relationship between the two, a huge cartoon and then a HUGE movie of the 2 together...wow...kids minds would be blown...I got Optimus prime and HAWK all at once and they all make sense! too coooool!

I hope I live to see that day...it will be bigger then Epic Steve's 13,500 vipers!

Joe is about modern military with future tech science, and getting a hold of some transformers or even fighting them all till they learn the autobots are on thier side...speaks multitudes of stories and comics and merchandise that Hasbro can severly take to the bank...then you can add Mmask into all of this...wow..all one line all together...we would get everything....

Zefram
02-12-2012, 02:33 PM
disagree with this 9000%...in todays world and they keep trying to figure out how to get the Joe brand lifted, they keep totally ingoring the fusion of Joes and TF. They may be doing these to see how much we all clamor after them. How frikin awesome would be to go buy an optimus Prime figure that came with a Gi Joe figure like Hawk? Or Shockwave and destro or star scream and Cobra Commander? Before somone bicthes about of course they won't be scale, but having the relationship between the two, a huge cartoon and then a HUGE movie of the 2 together...wow...kids minds would be blown...I got Optimus prime and HAWK all at once and they all make sense! too coooool!

I hope I live to see that day...it will be bigger then Epic Steve's 13,500 vipers!

Joe is about modern military with future tech science, and getting a hold of some transformers or even fighting them all till they learn the autobots are on thier side...speaks multitudes of stories and comics and merchandise that Hasbro can severly take to the bank...then you can add Mmask into all of this...wow..all one line all together...we would get everything....

I'm genuinely surprised that Hasbro didn't try to get Joe to ride Transformer's coat-tails when the movies were at the height of their popularity. They had transformers based on Star Wars and Marvel characters, why not a Rattler that turned into CC, a Hiss that turned into Destro, or a motorcycle that turned into SE?

Going after two markets with one product seems like a no-brainer to me.

Nirvana
02-12-2012, 02:39 PM
For that matter, they could easily cross the brands with G1 models. I think it's the Revenge of Cobra mini-series where Roadblock hops onto a convoy hijacked back Cobra and meets the country girl owner of the rigs. Each of the semi-trucks use the Optimus Prime G1 model.

Produce it as a transforming 1/18th Prime, make two sticker sheets so it could be Prime or the convoy truck, throw in the country girl driver for fun, and then a couple of swappable plug-in pieces so that the back trailer could easily haul cargo empty or have the electronic add-ons Prime came with (the mini 6-wheel roller which should be able to fit 1/18th figures, a few computer stations, etc.).

It would be a little bit of an effort, but you have two built in fanbases that would snap that thing up. It'll easily out size the Masterpiece Prime and you know the Japanese would love to get an even bigger version of him.

Lody
02-12-2012, 02:42 PM
Where's the box art

FLINT YOJOE
02-12-2012, 02:44 PM
CC - I understand what you are saying and it would be cool, but they are not making these for kids, rather collectors.. hence SDCC... I think SDCC stuff should be all Joe related... as for retail, let them breed all they want...


[QUOTE=CrimsonGuard101;3325579]disagree with this 9000%...in todays world and they keep trying to figure out how to get the Joe brand lifted, they keep totally ingoring the fusion of Joes and TF. They may be doing these to see how much we all clamor after them. How frikin awesome would be to go buy an optimus Prime figure that came with a Gi Joe figure like Hawk? Or Shockwave and destro or star scream and Cobra Commander? Before somone bicthes about of course they won't be scale, but having the relationship between the two, a huge cartoon and then a HUGE movie of the 2 together...wow...kids minds would be blown...I got Optimus prime and HAWK all at once and they all make sense! too coooool!

I hope I live to see that day...it will be bigger then Epic Steve's 13,500 vipers!

kneroh
02-12-2012, 03:00 PM
this is all total BS.. i don't like inbreeding b/w Joes and any other brands... I mean c'mon its all about military, real humans not space stuff like Star Wars/Transformers. This is what got me into Joes in the 80s, human beings, the good vs bad concept.

Have you read a single comment in this thread or on any transformer boards?! Yea... obviously Hasbro is wasting their time making this thing that almost everyone wants except you.

It's a shame they don't launch the new FLINT YOJOE line that caters solely to you.

Viper6
02-12-2012, 03:06 PM
i think shockwave shouldve been the maggot, then they could make reg version for retail. also think these things should transform

Zefram
02-12-2012, 03:21 PM
i think shockwave shouldve been the maggot, then they could make reg version for retail. also think these things should transform

Ya want fries with that? :D

TheRealDubya
02-12-2012, 03:38 PM
The Devastator BAT is rad. Will have to try and get one of these.

Gyre-Viper
02-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Have you read a single comment in this thread or on any transformer boards?! Yea... obviously Hasbro is wasting their time making this thing that almost everyone wants except you.

It's a shame they don't launch the new FLINT YOJOE line that caters solely to you.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294705_195444990521492_182093955189929_529836_3695 706_n.jpg

FLINT YOJOE
02-12-2012, 04:10 PM
FLINT YOJOE line would be the best ever.. seriously though.. you misunderstood... I don't care what they make for retail... but I feel for SDCC it should only be Joe related.. I am strictly GI Joe guy, I don't care for Trans/Star Wars and no I do not go on TS threads... besides if everyone wants it, they should make it for the retail market... few thousand pieces of an exclusive is almost everyone.. okay dude... ur a winner and I will be sure to sign up for ur acct class

Have you read a single comment in this thread or on any transformer boards?! Yea... obviously Hasbro is wasting their time making this thing that almost everyone wants except you.

It's a shame they don't launch the new FLINT YOJOE line that caters solely to you.

wrh
02-12-2012, 05:08 PM
is it just me, or do the energon cubes resemble kilos of cocaine?

Zefram
02-12-2012, 05:16 PM
is it just me, or do the energon cubes resemble kilos of cocaine?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Random/512816a00d83451b05569e2012876b3e5d9970c-pi.jpg

Dawg99
02-12-2012, 05:18 PM
def gonna be getting this
totally fuckin awesome

CrimsonGuard101
02-12-2012, 07:40 PM
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Random/512816a00d83451b05569e2012876b3e5d9970c-pi.jpg

lol wtf i dont remember that in scarface..is that shopped?

Money-B
02-12-2012, 08:08 PM
That Scarface pic is awesome.
I laughed so hard I nearly choked.

I tried not to want Starscream too.
Oh well. Now I will have both.
Getting the extra one to open is what gets expensive.

thairestauranteur
02-12-2012, 08:25 PM
Did Shockwave also pay Destro off so the repainted Jinx figures would be the SDCC exclusives to fans will have to yet again pay super high ebay prices to get one of the most widely requested figures for the 30th line?

Last year Zarana was the exclusive. This year it is Jinx.

Shockwave must have paid Destro a lot of money to piss the rest of the fans off.

Ripper
02-12-2012, 08:27 PM
Just a few quick updates on the SDCC 2012 Shockwave Destro Cobra B.A.T. exclusive. The box will be similar to last years Starscream Skystriker Comic Book Box. The Shockwave Tank will have the same styled old school comic book art box with Destro in the tank and a Army Of B.A.T.S surrounding them.

The back story...... Shockwave is looking to purchase the Alt mode of the new Retaliation H.I.S.S. Tank. They meet up and Shockwave pays Destro for the design.... he scans the prints and pays Destro off, then takes the alt mode of the H.I.S.S.!

Very Cool!

Why would a Con pay for a design, when it could just copy and duplicate it? Transformers never had any monetary means, and just scanned vehicles and became that item closest to their original design.

Zefram
02-12-2012, 08:56 PM
Did Shockwave also pay Destro off so the repainted Jinx figures would be the SDCC exclusives to fans will have to yet again pay super high ebay prices to get one of the most widely requested figures for the 30th line?

Last year Zarana was the exclusive. This year it is Jinx.

Shockwave must have paid Destro a lot of money to piss the rest of the fans off.

Let's assume the Red Jinx, the one based on the classic design, ends up costing $35 on Ebay ($25 would actually be more realistic if you are a good bidder). That means you have five whole months to work the extra 6 hours (at Federal minimum wage) at whatever job will put up with you and pay for the cost.

If you can't f*cking manage that, then you don't f*cking want her that bad, now do you?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Invalid/129174603779969754.jpg

skinny
02-12-2012, 09:22 PM
Let's assume the Red Jinx, the one based on the classic design, ends up costing $35 on Ebay ($25 would actually be more realistic if you are a good bidder). That means you have five whole months to work the extra 6 hours (at Federal minimum wage) at whatever job will put up with you and pay for the cost.

If you can't f*cking manage that, then you don't f*cking want her that bad, now do you?

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Invalid/129174603779969754.jpg

cost is not the point. at least not for me, I can easily afford a 100 dollar Jinx if I wanted to but I wont.
point is it should not be that much in the first place and should be widely available.
the secondary market is irrelevant and so is the "time and effort" spent by con goers to get these.
just because some people have fallen for the brainwashing that its ok for these to be exclusives does not mean i will.

I have no interest in the shockwave but I do "want" a white Jinx and if I can get one a red one as well. but I won't overpay for one. I will pay a reasonable price. six months later if need be.
Sideshow does exclusives the right way.
Hasbro needs to follow suit.
sorry exclusives have been a touchy subject for me ever since the ST TNG set with tapestry picard.

NeilJam
02-12-2012, 10:07 PM
I already wanted the Shockwave HISS, but now I have to get it. The Soundwave and tapes are awesome, and I won't mind having another suitcase of cash. The Constructicon BAT is kinda odd, bit it's a nice Devastator homage.


I'm genuinely surprised that Hasbro didn't try to get Joe to ride Transformer's coat-tails when the movies were at the height of their popularity. They had transformers based on Star Wars and Marvel characters, why not a Rattler that turned into CC, a Hiss that turned into Destro, or a motorcycle that turned into SE?

Going after two markets with one product seems like a no-brainer to me.


I'm also surprised they haven't done TF/Joe crossover figures like they have for Star Wars and Marvel, but making them transform to Joe characters would have been a huge turn off for me. I'd rather they be TF characters that transformed into Joe or Cobra vehicles.

I would love to see them do a couple Transformers like this in Joe scale, but I'm sure Hasbro views that as too big of a risk even with two groups of fans to market it to. I can still hope though.

kneroh
02-12-2012, 10:56 PM
I can't fucking believe that tale about Shockwave paying Destro! Sure... I'm fucktarded enough to believe in million year old, 3 story tall, transforming robots from space... but saying they use money in exchange for goods in services?!?! THAT'S SO STUPID!

WTG HASBLOW!!!!

OX_Bigly
02-22-2012, 12:55 AM
That's typical, all the stuff we actually want has to be overpriced SDCC exclusives while all the stores get is nothing but overpriced repaints.

Dawg99
02-22-2012, 12:58 AM
def will try to get one of these sets from sdcc

ResoluteBAT
03-23-2012, 09:05 AM
I'm going to try and get this set, since the whole thing interests me.

Though the BAT is the selling point for me. I hope I can pick up duplicates.

Also, for my signature I recoloured the Resolute BAT filecard image as a mock up of this BAT's filecard image.

I'm going to totally laugh my ass off if Hasbro does the same thing!
http://oi44.tinypic.com/2zg6iqg.jpg

Deefuzz
03-23-2012, 11:28 AM
When I first heard about it I let out a great big "meh".

But after seeing everything and knowing the little background story behind it, I have to say I am pretty excited about it. Even more so than last year's Starscream.

Beckley
03-23-2012, 11:30 AM
Oh man...I am gonna have to pay out the ass to get one of these aren't I?

I mean I would just be happy with Destro and the BAT.

I'd be happy with just the Shockwave

ResoluteBAT
03-23-2012, 08:18 PM
The BAT is all I really want, the whole set would be nice, but it's the BAT or bust!