View Full Version : Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace In 3D
CornDog_The_Ninja
02-09-2012, 09:14 AM
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I know elements of this movie are hated by most fans, but other than Jar Jar Binks, I enjoyed it (the original version that is).
Anybody going to see it? I heard Yoda was replaced with CGI and effects were added to explosions. Usually though, 3D movies give me a serious headache.
On of the theaters here is being taken over by the local 501st. I've seen them before at a local comic convention. Other than the ugly chick who dresses as Leia, their costumes are top notch. I'm mostly looking forward to having my son's picture taken with Darth Vader and Storm Troopers.
Anybody else?
PROVOST
02-09-2012, 09:16 AM
I am trying to remain as spoiler free at this time.
Slaymaker
02-09-2012, 09:18 AM
I want to hear some reviews before I decide to see it. EPI is my least favorite and I have never been to a 3D movie. If it was a New Hope, I may well be in line right now. :D
sharky
02-09-2012, 09:20 AM
Sigh, as much as I have come to dislike the movie I will end up going to see it. At the very least I owe it to myself and my daughter (who's never seen any live action SW in the theater) to go see this in IMAX and check out the cool action sequences. At least I'm going in knowing what to expect so I will not be disappointed. I'm sure my daughter will love it, and it will be a time we can remember fondly together and that makes me feel good about it.
As far as what's in store for us this time around, I saw a quick segment on TV where Lucas talks about not doing anything like stuff flying out at you. He is in it for adding a richer viewing experience where things have more depth. I am imagining the kind of 3D that was done for Avatar. It's not going to be in your face.
XAMOT
02-09-2012, 09:48 AM
I am trying to remain as spoiler free at this time.
...Seriously, you haven't seen it yet?
sharky
02-09-2012, 09:51 AM
...Seriously, you haven't seen it yet?
I think he means anything new added to it as we have come to expect with any new Star Wars release.
PROVOST
02-09-2012, 09:59 AM
...Seriously, you haven't seen it yet?
http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/15/13/73/31/austin10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=5637&u=15137331)
I think he means anything new added to it as we have come to expect with any new Star Wars release.
Not even that,I was trolling.
MeLikeJinx
02-09-2012, 04:46 PM
I know elements of this movie are hated by most fans, but other than Jar Jar Binks, I enjoyed it (the original version that is).
Phantom Menace still has the best live action lightsaber battle scene ever IMO. The main thing I didn't like was Jake Lloyd's performance and his seriously awkward scenes with Padme.
Not even that,I was trolling.
LOL.
RolandofGilead
02-09-2012, 04:50 PM
Can't wait to take my children to see this movie Sunday. This will be the first time for them and I hope they enjoy it as much as I did.
Python Viper
02-09-2012, 04:59 PM
I will probably see it. Come on, Star Wars in 3D? I know Ep I is a least fave but has this ever happened before? I think its worth it. I will let George Lucas reach into my pocket one more time.
Crimson Rage
02-09-2012, 05:02 PM
Jar Jar and obnoxious brats aside, I thought Ep I actually had a worthy and good story. I think too many fans were expecting epic shots of dirty spaceships from the off. I actually prefer it to the leaden and lovesick ATTACK OF THE CLONES.
The pod race will probably be impressive in 3D but beyond that I still think the whole thing is a pointless gimmick.
MeLikeJinx
02-09-2012, 05:28 PM
Even though I didn't really like Phantom Menace all that much...
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace 3D Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6w15OwK08)
...just seeing that 3D re-release trailer still gives me goosebumps. I still remember the first time I saw the Phantom Menace trailer on Entertainment Tonight... my family went to a Basketball game and I stayed home just so I could watch the trailer (I didn't have internet back then). LOL. Seeing the original Phantom Menace trailer for the first time was the best ever.
I know it's an old internet meme-y type thing but if you've never watched the Harry Plinkett/Red Letter Media review, go do so now.
Star Wars: Episode 1 – The Phantom Menace | (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/)
RolandofGilead
02-09-2012, 06:08 PM
Do we always have to devolve into the hating? I'm sorry that all your backyard Star Wars fantasies died when you were ten. All our childhoods must end and we must make way for a new generation.
Whatever my own thoughts on the Phantom Menace, it did it's job of hooking a bunch of little kids onto Star Wars and it looks like this 3-D experience will do more of the same. I welcome it. My kids get to go see these films in a real theater for the first time with me and they're excited about it. I couldn't ask for anything more.
MeLikeJinx
02-09-2012, 07:06 PM
I know it's an old internet meme-y type thing but if you've never watched the Harry Plinkett/Red Letter Media review, go do so now.
Star Wars: Episode 1 – The Phantom Menace | (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/)
Yah, I think there is actually 3 dedicated threads about that review already. LOL.
Do we always have to devolve into the hating? I'm sorry that all your backyard Star Wars fantasies died when you were ten. All our childhoods must end and we must make way for a new generation.
It is understandable though... Phantom Menace was the most hyped movie ever... I mean ever... it was the new SW movie that people were waiting 20 years for. It had zero percent chance of living up to expectations.
Whatever my own thoughts on the Phantom Menace, it did it's job of hooking a bunch of little kids onto Star Wars and it looks like this 3-D experience will do more of the same. I welcome it.
The weird thing is I don't think Phantom Menace hooked a lot of kids onto SW. I remember my cousins going to see that movie and it was their first SW experience of any kind... and they liked it, but did not love it enough to become SW fans.
The Clone Wars TV show is doing that now though... an entire generation of kids love SW now because of that cartoon. And because of that cartoon they want to learn about the back story of Anakin so they eventually watch the movies and learn the lore. That's what happened with my nephews anyway... they saw everything in reverse order... SWTCW > prequels > OT.
My kids get to go see these films in a real theater for the first time with me and they're excited about it. I couldn't ask for anything more.
Cool. I hope you have a killer time... pretty sure this is all George Lucas wants; parents and their kids enjoying SW again on the big screen.
Raz9000x
02-09-2012, 07:47 PM
I introduced my girlfriend to Star Wars over the last few weeks. We watched the OT first, then the prequels. She loved the OT and liked Episodes II and III, but was appalled by how bad The Phantom Menace was. The pooping, farting and other silliness, combined with the listless story and boring characters really starts the prequels off on the wrong foot. (She was also easily able to tell which parts were added for the Special Edition, and she's by no means an expert on that sort of thing.)
Random side note, my friend's six year-old daughter was watching Empire for the first time the other day. She seemed terribly bored by it. I don't know if it's because she's a girl, or because kids these days have their attention spans shredded by the constant media assault.
Like I say, I know the Plinkett thing gets circulated a lot but it's because they're actually a bloody good analysis of just how horrible those movies are.
And no, I'm not one of those George Lucas destroyed my childhood-types. I'm not a hater. I'm just pointing out that they're really terrible movies. The originals weren't art but at least they had characters you could root for, engaging battles and a bit of imagination. The new ones are just awful.
Raz9000x
02-09-2012, 08:00 PM
Like I say, I know the Plinkett thing gets circulated a lot but it's because they're actually a bloody good analysis of just how horrible those movies are.
And no, I'm not one of those George Lucas destroyed my childhood-types. I'm not a hater. I'm just pointing out that they're really terrible movies. The originals weren't art but at least they had characters you could root for, engaging battles and a bit of imagination. The new ones are just awful.
The Plinkett reviews are great, and not just for prequel haters. He really understands the art of filmmaking and storytelling. They're pretty fascinating in their own right.
Beckley
02-09-2012, 08:23 PM
I know it's an old internet meme-y type thing but if you've never watched the Harry Plinkett/Red Letter Media review, go do so now.
Star Wars: Episode 1 – The Phantom Menace | (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/)
That's hilarious.
They seriously hit the nail on the head
Headman
02-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Attack of the Clones is the worst Star Wars movie ever. I could probably sit through Episode 1 again but when Episode 2 comes out I will skip it. It was gaaawwwwd awful.
The Plinkett reviews are great, and not just for prequel haters. He really understands the art of filmmaking and storytelling. They're pretty fascinating in their own right.
That's the point of why they're so good though. He's not just going ''The Phantom Menace sucks!'' but is explaining what's wrong with your face - I mean, what's wrong with the movies.
Beckley
02-09-2012, 09:35 PM
That's the point of why they're so good though. He's not just going ''The Phantom Menace sucks!'' but is explaining what's wrong with your face - I mean, what's wrong with the movies.
I had never seen those scenes of Lucas & Company screening the rough cut.
You can see by the looks on their faces that they know it's garbage.
The one guy (editor?) tries to explain that there's just way too much going on.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
02-09-2012, 09:57 PM
I'm going...even bad Star Wars is still fun.
sharky
02-09-2012, 10:22 PM
I'm going...even bad Star Wars is still fun.
It's not like we all haven't sat through worse. cough...ROC...cough :D
Raz9000x
02-09-2012, 10:26 PM
I had never seen those scenes of Lucas & Company screening the rough cut.
You can see by the looks on their faces that they know it's garbage.
The one guy (editor?) tries to explain that there's just way too much going on.
The making-of documentary for Episode I has some pretty revealing scenes, including that one. You can tell they all know the movie is crap, despite all the excuses they offer after the screening. The horrified look Rick McCallum has says it all.
They also show rehearsal footage of the other kid in the running for the role of Anakin. He's really good. Lucas, in one of his baffling moves, pretty much says the kid is TOO good and chooses Jake Lloyd instead.
Raw Dog
02-09-2012, 10:28 PM
It's up to my son whether or not I see it, he is the Star Wars fan. I think Star Wars is cool, but I am more of a Star Trek fan myself.
Jmacq1
02-09-2012, 10:30 PM
Attack of the Clones is the worst Star Wars movie ever. I could probably sit through Episode 1 again but when Episode 2 comes out I will skip it. It was gaaawwwwd awful.
The last 30 minutes or so are pretty decent. But yes...the first hour and a half of Episode II is worse than the entirety of Episode I, IMO. No matter how hard Ewan MacGregor tries to carry the movie.
Crimson Rage
02-10-2012, 06:21 AM
It's not like we all haven't sat through worse. cough...ROC...cough :D
Are you serious, or is it just more opportunistic "LOL ROC SUX" commentary?
As for the "we all" part... You don't speak for me. Personally, I'll take RISE OF COBRA over any of the SW Neo-Trilogy in a heartbeat.
sharky
02-10-2012, 08:09 AM
Are you serious, or is it just more opportunistic "LOL ROC SUX" commentary?
As for the "we all" part... You don't speak for me. Personally, I'll take RISE OF COBRA over any of the SW Neo-Trilogy in a heartbeat.
I thought the :D was pretty much showing I am joking around. Nevertheless, whether you liked it or not doesn't take away from the fact that you sat through the movie and watched it. I happen to think it was worse. I felt like walking out on ROC. I thought Ep I was bad, but I didn't feel like walking out on it.
rip_cord
02-10-2012, 08:53 AM
i'm not a fan of the PT, but i'd like to take my son to see it.
he LOVES the Hoth Battle sequence in ESB and the Speederbike Chase in ROTJ.
problem is, he is only 3.5YO and not sure he'd keep the glasses on, or if they'd even fit him?
i searched for the 2D version, but the only theaters showing that around us are over an hour away and only evening/night showings.
hopefully when the OT hits, there will be a theater closer with the 2D.
personally, i could care less about the 3D, it kinda annoys me...
...just want him to have the chance to see them (mainly the OT) on the BIG screen.
it's funny, my wife warned me: 'you know if you take him to see it, he's gonna like Jar Jar' :D
sharky
02-10-2012, 08:56 AM
i'm not a fan of the PT, but i'd like to take my son to see it.
he LOVES the Hoth Battle sequence in ESB and the Speederbike Chase in ROTJ.
problem is, he is only 3.5YO and not sure he'd keep the glasses on, or if they'd even fit him?
i searched for the 2D version, but the only theaters showing that around us are over an hour away and only evening/night showings.
hopefully when the OT hits, there will be a theater closer with the 2D.
personally, i could care less about the 3D, it kinda annoys me...
...just want him to have the chance to see them (mainly the OT) on the BIG screen.
it's funny, my wife warned me: 'you know if you take him to see it, he's gonna like Jar Jar' :D
If we can assume they will release each movie every year I figure by the time Ep. 4-5 hits the theater he will be around 6.5-7.5 years old. Perfect timing IMO. :) What a great experience to be able to see those at the theater at his age. Yeah, you got a life long SW fan there.
Raw Dog
02-10-2012, 08:58 AM
Episode 3 was awesome. I especially liked it when Obi Wan says "you were the chosen one", after defeating Anakin at the end.
Episode 3 was awesome. I especially liked it when Obi Wan says "you were the chosen one", after defeating Anakin at the end.
I like it best when Jar-Jar steps in the poopy.
Beckley
02-10-2012, 10:03 AM
I like it best when Jar-Jar steps in the poopy.
I like when that creature farts in Jar Jar's face
rip_cord
02-10-2012, 11:16 AM
If we can assume they will release each movie every year I figure by the time Ep. 4-5 hits the theater he will be around 6.5-7.5 years old. Perfect timing IMO. :) What a great experience to be able to see those at the theater at his age. Yeah, you got a life long SW fan there.
oh, it's one per year?
for some reason, i thought they were all hitting this year?
that is awesome news, IV-VI will hit at the perfect time for him!!!
oh, it's one per year?
Lucas needs a year per project so he can add a load of additional CGI-crap to leap out of the screen at you.
rip_cord
02-10-2012, 11:27 AM
Lucas needs a year per project so he can add a load of additional CGI-crap to leap out of the screen at you.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Sysiss
02-10-2012, 12:19 PM
Just saw "PM 3D" last night, or at least that's what I was "supposed" to see. I just went for the hell of it, but if you had ANY question in to the whole 3D gimmick THIS movie will certainly put that to rest.
Absolute WASTE of funds....As we all know PM is a pain in the ass to get through to begin with, but I figured eh, what the hell may be the "3D" will be decent....Well...I don't even think that there was ANY!! Seriously....Really bad stuff.
You'll hardly even notice it at ALL. Really terrible.
On a side note, they had a trailer for SpiderMan in there. First time I've seen it. Looks WAY better then expected I gotta say. If your going to check any thing out let that be it.
RolandofGilead
02-10-2012, 12:30 PM
Like I say, I know the Plinkett thing gets circulated a lot but it's because they're actually a bloody good analysis of just how horrible those movies are.
And no, I'm not one of those George Lucas destroyed my childhood-types. I'm not a hater. I'm just pointing out that they're really terrible movies. The originals weren't art but at least they had characters you could root for, engaging battles and a bit of imagination. The new ones are just awful.
That's like your opinion man!
If we can assume they will release each movie every year I figure by the time Ep. 4-5 hits the theater he will be around 6.5-7.5 years old. Perfect timing IMO. :) What a great experience to be able to see those at the theater at his age. Yeah, you got a life long SW fan there.
That's what I'm looking forward to as well. My little boy is only two, too young to see this release, but he should be big enough come Episode IV and how cool is that going to be?
Lucas needs a year per project so he can add a load of additional CGI-crap to leap out of the screen at you.
I like it best when Jar-Jar steps in the poopy.
I like when that creature farts in Jar Jar's face
And there's the generic hate messages I've come to know and love since 1997. Say thankya big big for reminding me why I no longer work for a Star Wars fan site.
And there's the generic hate messages I've come to know and love since 1997. Say thankya big big for reminding me why I no longer work for a Star Wars fan site.
Generic, or opinions shared by a lot of people because they're true?
pig iron grenadier
02-10-2012, 04:11 PM
Tee Hee...can't we all just get along?
Tee Hee...can't we all just get along?
Of course not. It's the Internet.
Beckley
02-10-2012, 06:54 PM
Time out man, I really did like the part where the creature farted in Jar Jar's face.
It's a fetish thing for me; when one alien creature farts in the face of another alien creature that is of a different species.
It cannot be two aliens of the same species farting in each others face.
So, a Klingon farting in a Wookie's face is cool, but a Klingon farting in the face of another Klingon is just gross.
Don't be hatin.
RolandofGilead
02-10-2012, 07:00 PM
Generic, or opinions shared by a lot of people because they're true?
Or the unthinking battle cry of a small but very vocal minority.
Xaven
02-10-2012, 08:34 PM
I actually liked Episode 1. There is some things I find stupid (Jar Jar's voice, and a 9-year-old hitting on a 14-year-old Natalie Portman), but it is still one of the best of the prequels. The only complaint I have is that Darth Maul should have lived, and became the Darth Vader for my generation.
And I'm planning to see it in theaters. Anyone know how long it'll be in there?
Time out man, I really did like the part where the creature farted in Jar Jar's face.
It's a fetish thing for me; when one alien creature farts in the face of another alien creature that is of a different species.
It cannot be two aliens of the same species farting in each others face.
So, a Klingon farting in a Wookie's face is cool, but a Klingon farting in the face of another Klingon is just gross.
Don't be hatin.
Oh man, and I bet Gagh is awesome fart-fuel. It would probably singe the Wookie's hair off and stuff. Or at least cause it to get tussled about in the blast.
Or the unthinking battle cry of a small but very vocal minority.
I think you'll probably find that people who like The Phantom Menace are in the minority. But hey, you dig it, that's cool.
I just think the new movies are utter balls, that Lucas simply has too many ideas and doesn't know how to edit out the bad from the good, so the result is a trilogy of really dull, disconnected and incredibly pointless movies that are about as engaging as watching a couple of videogame characters fighting.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
02-11-2012, 02:33 AM
Just got back.
Pretty much the same I did notice some subtle differances...puppet Yoda replaced by CGI...who looked pretty good...some of the battle driods were color coded for rank etc. and maybe its me, but it felt like they trimmed a second or so off of Maul's just standing there before he gets chopped in half it seemed a little more or should I say less stupid than it usually did.
As for the 3D...ehh...I have yet to be really impressed with ANY 3D film beyond My Bloody Valentine 3D...so Lucas adding 3D doesn't add or detract from the film in any way shape or form.
I had hoped that he would intergrate the Prequels deleted scenes into the film just so we would get them in there, but overall its still fun watch stuff on the big screen...especially the Pod Race scene and the Lightsaber duel.
Zefram
02-12-2012, 07:17 AM
Phantom Menace still has the best live action lightsaber battle scene ever IMO.
My balls it does. Compare that scene where Obi-Wan loses his shit and jumps into a carefully choreographed ballet shit to the scene in RotJ where Luke loses his shit and just utterly fucking wails on Vader, no technique, no careful shit, he just keeps beating Vader down until he falls, and then when it's over you see the realization on Luke's face of how he almost fell.
The Prequal Trilogies fight scenes had all the emotional impact of watching someone else playing Street Fighter.
I know it's an old internet meme-y type thing but if you've never watched the Harry Plinkett/Red Letter Media review, go do so now.
Star Wars: Episode 1 – The Phantom Menace | (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-1-the-phantom-menace/)
I cannot stress enough how epic the Plinket Reviews are. This is a guy who genuinely understands film-making and storytelling pointing out what should have been glaringly obvious to Lucas.
I love how effortlessly he does it too. Just ask anyone, "Describe Padme, Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon without referring to her appearance or job", and people just go blank.
Star Wars | (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/)
OH! Plinket now has a downloadable commentary track you can load onto a mobile device and listen while at the theater.
Do we always have to devolve into the hating?
Yes.
Or the unthinking battle cry of a small but very vocal minority.
Minority? I think this calls for a poll.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
02-12-2012, 03:39 PM
His stuff just kills funny as hell.
But I have to be honest some of it is off base...I mean describe pretty much ANY character in any film show or novel without refering to appearence or job.
It not as easy as one thinks.
Seriously try say...Snake Pliskin...outlaw? well thats kinda his job. Jason Voorhees...killer...well again kind of his job.
I'll be honest, the prequels have plot holes big enought to fly the Falcon through. And yes I think the CGI was a bit heavy handed...and yes Jar Jar was way too silly and comedic.
I think Clones works out better and Revenge is the best of the three.
I think plotwise Lucas has always relied on the audience to just assume certain plot points without explaining them away.
Great example is the end of Jedi...I mean the Empire was vast and dominating yet somehow the Rebels have just won by winning one battle...sure a pivital one likely even a war turning battle but in the special edition we see the galaxy celebrating...which might have indeed been the case but I gaurentee you Imperials on Corruscant would have been shooting people tearing down statues...but for the point of storytelling we got a happy ending.
And people bitch about the sudden acceptance of the Clone Army...which yeah you'd think someone would have taken a little more time and looked into that, but think about it for a moment...a forgein nation declares war on you, and suddenly you who have no army previously have this choice...accept one presented to you or allow the other army to win without a shot fired?
So some stuff can be explained away...and MAYBE Lucas should have explained that on film.
Also people will complain about Ben's "That boy is our last hope." line, saying but Ben knew about Leia.
True he did...but honestly maybe Ben just didn't feel Leia was up to the task. I mean Luke showed some apptitude and even HE was reckless, impulsive and hot headed.
The point is a lot of problems can be explained away in all of the saga.
One of my biggest points of issue with Phantom Menace is the repeat of so many ideas.
I mean Gungans vs Driods is Ewoks vs Storm Troopers recycled.
The battle to destroy the Trade Fed Starship was a twice recycled Death Star battle. And Anakin comes off as a lucky little doofus instead of potentaily the greatest Jedi ever..."Lets try spinning!" Ugh.
I mean put that kinda dialog in the pod race scene (which is a pretty good scene) and think about how silly that seems.
Now lets take on the acting.
Personally Portman was fine. McGregor again fine. Ian McDormand...dude got better with each performance. And even Jake Lloyd...he was perfect...the age differance between him and Portman was ans still is odd but it may explain some of why Anakin later acts like such a child...but Hayden Christianson...was a hot mess..some of it I blame on writing, some I blame on them casting him in the first place...there are a ton of young actors who could have pulled what was written on the page off brilliantly...I mean think of River Phoenix when he was younger...he could have pulled that off.
Anyway now that I have stepped off my soap box, I tend to just watch for what I do like and ignore what I don't.
Zefram
02-12-2012, 05:07 PM
Seriously try say...Snake Pliskin...outlaw? well thats kinda his job.
Fiercely independent, quiet, anti-authoritarian, rebellious tendencies fueled by government betrayel. Determined loner with brutally fierce survivor instincts, militaristic training and discipline as well as a wit as dry as a desert.
Jason Voorhees...killer...well again kind of his job.
Psychotic, unflinchingly single-minded predatory instinct, slightly(?) retarded, prone to extreme violence fueled by trauma suffered at a young age topped off with a healthy serving of mommy-issues. Possibly hydrophobic (if Freddy vs Jason is canon).
You pretty much just proved his point.
A seven-foot mute in a hockey mask in a movie series known for skinny-dipping and asshole death-quotient is actually more psychologically deep and fleshed-out than any single character in all the prequels.
Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
02-12-2012, 06:22 PM
lol ok point taken.
The last 30 minutes or so are pretty decent. But yes...the first hour and a half of Episode II is worse than the entirety of Episode I, IMO. No matter how hard Ewan MacGregor tries to carry the movie.
Agreed. For Anakin to come off as a whiny bitch in his first scene is a disgrace. He becomes more sympathetic in ROTS but just barely. The fact that he does not have one likable trait in AOTC is all on Lucas. And it's part of the reason ATOC is my least favorite of the 6 films.
Since no one asked I'll give my order from best to worst: ESB, ANH, ROTJ, ROTS, TPM, ATOC. ESB and ANH have been known to flip flop depending on my mood but the rest of the list stays consistent.
I just think the new movies are utter balls, that Lucas simply has too many ideas and doesn't know how to edit out the bad from the good, so the result is a trilogy of really dull, disconnected and incredibly pointless movies that are about as engaging as watching a couple of videogame characters fighting.
The problem as I see it is two fold - 1) his lack of a Gary Kurtz type to filter his bad ideas out and enhance his good ideas, and 2) his reliance on CGI to fill the gaps in the scene, which I believe is born of a perfectionist personality and part laziness. I believe he got so beaten down by making the OT on location and the strain the unpredictable environment caused on the budget and schedule that he opted for the comforts of sound stages. They still shot some stuff on location but because they were filling a majority of the scenes with CGI, models, etc, they got in and out of each location very quickly.
Debate over the Prequels is an argument rivaling religion, politics, abortion and the like. Both sides have a strong view and will not be swayed. Love it or hate it, they exist. And if you love them, enjoy them for what they are regardless of other people's opinion. If you hate them, ignore their very existence and continue to focus on the good parts of Star Wars.
I personally have found a renewed interest in TPM due in part to Jame Lucerno Darth Plagieus novel which fleshes out the Naboo Blockade and really gives depth to Palpatine's political maneuverings. If only Lucas could have made those ideas clearer from the start fandom might have a different view of TPM.
Ixz72
02-13-2012, 09:54 AM
I am skipping the first two. Although both have their merits (PM with Darth Maul and AOTC with the Jedi battle in the Geonosis arena), I do not think it worth seeing again in theaters. But from ROTS to ROJ I will definitely see.
I think ROTS is the second best movie in the Star Wars saga (second to ESB). I thought is had a strong story behind it.
sharky
02-24-2012, 12:48 AM
You know I just realized something during the big confrontation between Maul and Qui Gon and Obi Wan. When the big doors open to reveal Maul waiting for them all they had to do was for everyone with a gun to fire on Maul all at the same time. He didn't even have his lightsaber in his hand in the beginning. If they reacted quick enough they could have gotten some hits if they all fired at once. Don't know why I just thought of that. LOL!
Or, in another situation where Qui Gon bitch slaps Maul and he falls down to a lower level. When Qui Gon is jumping down after him Maul seemed to have recovered. Why didn't Maul just slice the shit out of Qui Gon's legs as he jumped down next to him.
Sure sharky, take all the fun out of the lightsaber duel, you killjoy. Next you'll suggest Qui Gon should have used his force powers to sabotage all the pod racers to ensure Anakin wins rather than letting the race go on.
sharky
02-24-2012, 10:34 AM
Sure sharky, take all the fun out of the lightsaber duel, you killjoy. Next you'll suggest Qui Gon should have used his force powers to sabotage all the pod racers to ensure Anakin wins rather than letting the race go on.
LOL! Sorry. The thought just popped in my head. Also, when Maul and Qui Gon ( and even Obi Wan) were separated by the force field why not try to use force powers to fight each other. Obi Wan should have tried to use force powers to mess with Maul as he was fighting Qui Gon while separated behind the force field.
STOP! STOP! STOP! Your logic will not ruin the best part of TPM! NO! NO! NO!
And as Harry Plinkett points out, it's a shame when those force fields were switching on and off and Obi-Wan got left behind that Jedi Knights didn't have some kind of ability to run really fast...
B and H Comics
02-25-2012, 09:49 PM
Just saw it with my five year old it was awesome.
the 3D on John Carter from the trailer was unbeivable !!!
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