View Full Version : The winner is.....
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:04 AM
Let's just say for example that Gi Joe and Cobra were both real, now if they we're to actually have an all out war whom would win and why? I'm curious as to what you guys would say!
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:05 AM
The joe team of course. The good guys always win...:D
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:09 AM
^ True! LOL but would'nt Cobra actually outnumber the Gi Joe team by a considerable amount?
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:13 AM
^ True! LOL but would'nt Cobra actually outnumber the Gi Joe team by a considerable amount?
LOL, of course. But don't forget the greenshirts... Oh and remember the final episode of Arise Serpentor Arise. Cobra had sent it's entire force to take Washington and the joes still won...
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:16 AM
Damn! You're right! So how many greenshirts are there and what if you throw in the BATS Cobra still got a good chance right? LOL
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:18 AM
Damn! You're right! So how many greenshirts are there and what if you throw in the BATS Cobra still got a good chance right? LOL
I don't know how many greenshirts there are. I am assuming just as many as cobra blueshirts, but maybe not. And you might be right about the BATS, but figure Sgt. Slaughter into the mix too...lol He is a BAT destroying machine...:D
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:19 AM
It would be a damn good fight...
delta
09-30-2008, 03:19 AM
It's hard to fathom Cobra actually exisiting. Set up a pretext for us
the_loud_master
09-30-2008, 03:22 AM
I think it depends on which Joe continuity we are talking about...
Either cartoon
or comics
If this was Sunbow Joes and CObra Joe would most for sure win lol.
But if this was Marvel / DD Joes and Cobra, idk
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:23 AM
I think it depends on which Joe continuity we are talking about...
Either cartoon
or comics
If this was Sunbow Joes and CObra Joe would most for sure win lol.
But if this was Marvel / DD Joes and Cobra, idk
Good point. I didn't read the comics. All i am going off of is the cartoon. Cobra was actually not that bright in the cartoon...lol
the_loud_master
09-30-2008, 03:26 AM
Good point. I didn't read the comics. All i am going off of is the cartoon. Cobra was actually not that bright in the cartoon...lol
Cobra Commander: "Destro build me a weather dominator device!"
Destro: "As you wish, Commander."
Cobra Trooper: " Uh Commander, WTH are you gunna do with a weather dominator?"
CC: "Uh....dominate weather?"
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:29 AM
You can't fathom the fact of Cobra being real, well it's because theyre not! Use your own damn imagination for a second and just say for example based upon the characters, the weapons and the determination by each faction leader which one would win, it's like saying Gi joe equals usa and Cobra equals Russia who would win! It's for fun!
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:30 AM
Cobra Commander: "Destro build me a weather dominator device!"
Destro: "As you wish, Commander."
Cobra Trooper: " Uh Commander, WTH are you gunna do with a weather dominator?"
CC: "Uh....dominate weather?"
LOL exactly...
VIPER 48
09-30-2008, 03:33 AM
You can't fathom the fact of Cobra being real, well it's because theyre not! Use your own damn imagination for a second and just say for example based upon the characters, the weapons and the determination by each faction leader which one would win, it's like saying Gi joe equals usa and Cobra equals Russia who would win! It's for fun!
If they both existed today, there would be so many civilians rushing to join either team. It would completely change everything on how i would guess. Great question, tough to answer...:D
If i had to venture a guess, i would say the joe team...
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:35 AM
I think Cobra would win by sheer numbers, but if it was big name characters vs big name characters Joes would kick their asses! When you put Troops, BATS, CG, Vipers, thats a buch of enemies and you got Piper for the Sarge! :)
CrimsonGuard101
09-30-2008, 03:49 AM
Depending on the weaponry used, and a lot of what COBRA has attempted to use, global extermination, no one wins
A great computer once said "Strange Game...The only way to win is not to play...."
heatviper
09-30-2008, 03:57 AM
Someone would win and I'm gonna vote Cobra, but Viper got a real good point people would join Gi joe in massive numbers, and I like that Cobra uses that destroy everything scheme it would be the best thing to terminate their enemy, Gi Joe!
delta
09-30-2008, 12:56 PM
You can't fathom the fact of Cobra being real, well it's because theyre not! Use your own damn imagination for a second and just say for example based upon the characters, the weapons and the determination by each faction leader which one would win, it's like saying Gi joe equals usa and Cobra equals Russia who would win! It's for fun!
Whom ever has the Nukes, and are willing to use them.
Troynos
09-30-2008, 01:01 PM
Comics (Marvel): Cobra by sheer numbers alone, only like 150 Joes, 2 or 3 times more that in Cobra Troopers/BATS/Iron Grenadiers).
Comics (Devil's Due): Joe because the Greenshirts offset the Trooper numbers.
Comics (IDW): Way too early to say.
Cartoon (Sunbow): Joes, they had Greenshirts and Cobra stupidity
Cartoon (Sigma Six): Cobra, they had the numbers
Movie: Way to early to say.
And equating Cobra to Russia is funny, that take a HUGE leap in the imagination.
gilborrego
09-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Other than MARS equipment, Cobra gear is crappy (I'm talking to the leaky suit brigade - Toxo-vipers. Also, Cobra training is basically, here's a gun, go that way, if you get shot don't worry because we have others to take your place. Leadership cannot throw away troops and expect true motivation.
MAJOR WOLF
09-30-2008, 06:25 PM
The joe team of course. The good guys always win...:D
Agreed!
Xerofall
09-30-2008, 06:29 PM
The good guys always have more allies than the bad guys... plus Cobra has too much in-fighting, that's why they lose.
Saboteur
09-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Joes.
The good guys always win.
Besides, there's too much fighting within Cobra's ranks.
If the Joes didn't do it, Cobra would collapse from the inside-out.
Sab
the_loud_master
09-30-2008, 08:21 PM
On an average day at Cobra Command Headquarters:
Cobra Commander: "Dessstro!!"
Destro: "Yes, Cobra Commander?"
CC: "I want you to build me.... a Weather Dominator device!"
Destro: "As you wish, Commander. >_>"
{Destro walk off to build device, blueshirt walks up to CC}
Cobra Trooper: " Uh, Cobra Commander, sir, can I talk with you, if I may?"
CC: "Sure thing, my loyal minion. What do you need?"
CT: "What the hell are you gunna do with a Weather Dominator? >_<"
CC: "Uh....dominate the weather? ?_?"
LOL edited it for the LULZ.
RolandofGilead
09-30-2008, 08:41 PM
If the "real world" Cobra can come up with some of the machines they had in the cartoons, they'd win hands down. They could take over the whole country with the Weather Dominator, and, I'm sorry, but no mirrors are going to simply reflect back a tornado.
Bernit69
09-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Cobra with no doubt. If they can build all those cool bases without being seen or caught. They would be able to do anything. Not to mention underwater bases.
buddystalin
09-30-2008, 09:11 PM
Victory goes to the team that learns how to shoot.
yourfacehere
09-30-2008, 09:24 PM
Aren't they both run by an underhanded global organization?
Cobra's backed by them, and the G.I.Joe was made because of them. Either way the spoils go to who ever is conducting the puppet show.
This case being hasbro.
paulpratt
09-30-2008, 09:27 PM
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
SPC Airborne
09-30-2008, 09:30 PM
For those of you talking numbers, you have to remember that G. I. Joe is just the Special Forces branches of the military(i.e.-Deltas, Rangers, SEALs, Force Recon, PJs, etc). Greenshirts are Special Forces trainees trying to make it as full fledge members. Then, you have to account for the regular military personnel outside of the SF branches. I'd say that the G. I. Joe team consists of about 200 members, Greenshirts add about 200 more trying to earn the few spots a year that are available, and then you have the hundreds of thousands of the regular military personnel.
Honestly, I'd say they'd be pretty evenly matched. And this is not counting the IGs, Noks, and Oktober Guard that are associated with G. I. Joe and Cobra.
As for technology, they are pretty evenly matched considering Destro is selling both sides M.A.R.S. weaponry.
zartan1
09-30-2008, 09:31 PM
I think Cobra and Joe would fight to a draw exhasting both's resources. Then the Iron Grenadiers come in the picture and mops the floor with both of em.
Winner: DESTRO
toolrocks302
09-30-2008, 09:34 PM
If it was based on the cartoon....come on are you serious? Cobra would destroy them. They had things like the weather dominator, mass device, pyramid of darkness, what was supposed to be a brilliant hybrid of leaders Serpentor, etc. If this were real and the 'good guys' didn't have to win because it was a kids show, Cobra would DESTROY the GI Joes and dominate the world.
COBRA!!!!!!
barbecue
09-30-2008, 11:37 PM
The joes will win for sure. Cobra have a lot of backstabbers in their roster like Baroness, Destro, Storm Shadow, Zartan and Major Bludd that made that organization very frail in the command level. With allies like that CC can't pretend to take over the world.
Cobra88
09-30-2008, 11:49 PM
Cobra would win , cause I would be on there side......lol
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pit Viper
10-01-2008, 04:24 AM
This is hard to say. Like someone else said it's hard to imagine Cobra actually existing in the way they are portrayed. Where are they getting all their stuff (Destro?) and how are they paying for it? Cobra is portrayed as a sort of sci-fi version of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany but at the same time they are just a terrorist organization with no one country of origin. Al-Qaeda for example could never have an army of tanks and jets. Where would they house it all and how would they move it from nation to nation?
Anyhow one would think that the Joes could be backed up by the normal US Military (this happened in the comics) and as such it's difficult to imagine Cobra overtaking them. But if it came down to just Joes vs Cobras . . . I think they are evenly matched. Cobra would have greater numbers. There are like 300 or so Joes (not counting Green Shirts) and even people who see Cobra as a small group has to see them having at least 300 men. But the Joes are ultimately better trained. So I see 1 Joe being able to take as many as 5 Cobras alone in a showdown but since Cobra's numbers are so great it evens the playing field. That is of course unless the Joes launch the missiles (nukes?) from the Rolling thunder.
MLos1
10-01-2008, 06:17 AM
In "real life"...no one would win, because the actual declaration of war between JOE and COBRA would be so sketchy, there would be hazy events and details skewed by the media, pointing fingers and making claims that made a clear winner virtually impossible to declare.
It would just be a messy never-ending series of conflicts in isolated pockets across the globe, forever.
TheLongestDay
10-01-2008, 07:18 AM
All depends on which side Storm Shadow is on!
quintonarledge
10-01-2008, 01:13 PM
For those of you talking numbers, you have to remember that G. I. Joe is just the Special Forces branches of the military(i.e.-Deltas, Rangers, SEALs, Force Recon, PJs, etc). Greenshirts are Special Forces trainees trying to make it as full fledge members. Then, you have to account for the regular military personnel outside of the SF branches. I'd say that the G. I. Joe team consists of about 200 members, Greenshirts add about 200 more trying to earn the few spots a year that are available, and then you have the hundreds of thousands of the regular military personnel.
Yeah, according to Rueters.com the U.S. Army alone is right at 574,000 folks. There may only be about 150 Joes, but if they have to call in the entire Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines for back-up then Cobra better have their B.A.T. making machines set on "high" ----- the only way I can see Cobra winning is through Crimson Guards infiltrating the government, big business, the military and other facets of society to such a high degree that they can determine the policies concerning the Joe/Cobra war.
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