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sharky
01-06-2012, 12:03 PM
Definitely will check this out Jan 15th.

Attention Toy Collectors: New Travel Channel Show (http://nerdbastards.com/2012/01/06/attention-toy-collectors-new-travel-channel-show-toy-hunters-to-focus-on-toys-and-collectibles/)

Troynos
01-06-2012, 12:29 PM
Sounds interesting.

MeLikeJinx
01-06-2012, 05:53 PM
Hopefully, this show does for toy collectors what Top Gun did for Naval pilots. LOL.

Joe Fan 1
01-06-2012, 08:51 PM
Ooh! Thanks for posting! My girlfriend loves shows like these! She's a collector too.

mister-x
01-06-2012, 08:53 PM
anyone want to bet on vintage prices sky rocketing....

Unclassified
01-06-2012, 08:57 PM
sounds cool. but i'll forget.

Jinx723
01-06-2012, 09:53 PM
Heck, I should do a show call Hisstankers.
It would be a show ala cops, where I follow you around on your hunts at brick & mortars. Since 90% of the episodes will end up with Tankers going home empty handed. The last five minutes of the show will spotlight a member going to his mailbox picking up what he purchased online. I'll even have specials; "What's at Ross today?" "Funny Repacks" and my favorite, "Scalpers" with hidden cameras we watch a scalper purchase everything in site, follow them home and the minute he/she post their haul on E-Bay. Bam! five random Tankers proceed to beat the crap out of the person. End it with a disclaimer, "Real scalpers were harmed during filming. Don't **** with The Hisstankers"

sharky
01-06-2012, 11:49 PM
Heck, I should do a show call Hisstankers.
It would be a show ala cops, where I follow you around on your hunts at brick & mortars. Since 90% of the episodes will end up with Tankers going home empty handed. The last five minutes of the show will spotlight a member going to his mailbox picking up what he purchased online. I'll even have specials; "What's at Ross today?" "Funny Repacks" and my favorite, "Scalpers" with hidden cameras we watch a scalper purchase everything in site, follow them home and the minute he/she post their haul on E-Bay. Bam! five random Tankers proceed to beat the crap out of the person. End it with a disclaimer, "Real scalpers were harmed during filming. Don't **** with The Hisstankers"
Yes. I would watch that.

When you seriously consider all the crap that is on TV this idea for a show is good.

thewyseone
01-06-2012, 11:56 PM
i should mention my gijoe extreme mosc wave 2 rampage.................

anyone know of any others in existance?

Headman
01-07-2012, 12:53 AM
All I ever watch is the travel channel so yeah.

Cobra80
01-07-2012, 12:19 PM
Darn it sharky you beat me to it. I just saw this yesterday afternoon and forgot to post it. I can't wait to see this show. With how cool APickers and storage wars I was waiting for a show like this.

I hope this is really a show about collectors traveling to brick and mortar stores flea markets toy shows actually "toy hunting" and not guys ordering figures off HTS, BBTS, etc. That would be Lame. Toy hunting does not involve sitting in front of your computer pointing and clicking with a mouse.

January 15 can't get here quick enough!

Cobra80
01-07-2012, 12:21 PM
I will watch shows like this APickers storage wars any day over all these other reality crap shows like kardashians etc

Tankster
01-07-2012, 01:12 PM
so much for finding awsome scores on craigslist anymore peeps will call these guys up to buy there stuff

Roshan
01-07-2012, 01:16 PM
I hate these freaking shows.

MeLikeJinx
01-07-2012, 04:16 PM
I hope they hire super good looking models to play the Toy Hunters, and then have like a tag along "toy expert" to help them out with his vast nerd knowledge... that way all the ladies who watch the show will think all Toy Hunters are devastatingly handsome by nature. LOL.

I will watch shows like this APickers storage wars any day over all these other reality crap shows like kardashians etc
I like both American Pickers and Storage Wars... it is neat seeing people's junk. LOL.

Roshan
01-07-2012, 04:31 PM
I hope they hire super good looking models to play the Toy Hunters, and then have like a tag along "toy expert" to help them out with his vast nerd knowledge... that way all the ladies who watch the show will think all Toy Hunters are devastatingly handsome by nature. LOL.


Lord knows they won't pick actual toy experts for each genre of toy collecting. You don't need to pay a real expert when you can make a fake one who can just look up completed listings on ebay as they hunt through stuff.

MeLikeJinx
01-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Lord knows they won't pick actual toy experts for each genre of toy collecting. You don't need to pay a real expert when you can make a fake one who can just look up completed listings on ebay as they hunt through stuff.
I bet this show will mostly be about pre-80's toys... like I was watching Storage Wars and the dude and his wife bought a locker for $1700 which basically had crap except for some old toys in two black boxes. He took them to a LCS to get appraised and the first box had some crap SW and other action figures... LCS dude told them they were worth a couple hundred.

Then he busts out the two black boxes that had about a dozen nearly pristine MIB Mego superhero action figures from the 70's. He had Thor, Green Arrow, Hulk, Aquaman, the rare Spiderman wit the diamond pattern (whatever that means, lol), etc... anyway... the LCS dude was in disbelief and told them they were worth around 12-14 grand. Yowza.

I bet the Toy Hunters show is gonna be more like that instead of more recent toys.

Hollywoodheroes
01-08-2012, 11:04 AM
Hi Folks,

This is actually my show. I want to welcome everyone to come out and watch. I can tell you honestly... its all real and not staged. I traveled across the country in September to scout out and find some rare toys for the NY Comic Con.

We premiere at 11pm on Jan 15th. The next day is Martin Luthor King Day, so many people will be off work. Watch the show.. .stay up late and "Get Your Geek On!"

As a collector, fanboy, and all around Geek myself, I truly embrace the entire "collecting toy lifestyle." I have dealing toys for the past 2o+ years, and many of you may know me. I have sold toys to some members here on this board.

We need about 500,000 to watch the show, in order for this to go to series. I am asking the entire community to help me get behind this show... so we can uncover and bring some great toys to the community and general audience.

I already have two great GI JOE episodes ready to go.. one with one of the very first designers who saved many of his prototypes and production toys.

Just head over to Google and type in "Toy Hunters Travel Channel" and you can find out more.

I want to thank everyone for letting me come here to give this a quick plug... and I truly hope you will all be watching !!

Jordan Hembrough
Hollywood Heroes
Host-TOY HUNTERS
Travel Channel

Cobra80
01-09-2012, 05:53 AM
Welcome to the boards Hollywoodheroes. You had me at "a new reality tv show about hunting action figures." I already have this marked on my calendar :)

Hi Folks,

This is actually my show. I want to welcome everyone to come out and watch. I can tell you honestly... its all real and not staged. I traveled across the country in September to scout out and find some rare toys for the NY Comic Con.

We premiere at 11pm on Jan 15th. The next day is Martin Luthor King Day, so many people will be off work. Watch the show.. .stay up late and "Get Your Geek On!"

As a collector, fanboy, and all around Geek myself, I truly embrace the entire "collecting toy lifestyle." I have dealing toys for the past 2o+ years, and many of you may know me. I have sold toys to some members here on this board.

We need about 500,000 to watch the show, in order for this to go to series. I am asking the entire community to help me get behind this show... so we can uncover and bring some great toys to the community and general audience.

I already have two great GI JOE episodes ready to go.. one with one of the very first designers who saved many of his prototypes and production toys.

Just head over to Google and type in "Toy Hunters Travel Channel" and you can find out more.

I want to thank everyone for letting me come here to give this a quick plug... and I truly hope you will all be watching !!

Jordan Hembrough
Hollywood Heroes
Host-TOY HUNTERS
Travel Channel

Hollywoodheroes
01-09-2012, 07:47 AM
Thank you so much! This is on a holiday weekend...so please watch and let me know what you think. I need "butts in the seats", meaning we need people actually watching the show... Since DVrs and recorders dont count towards ratings.

If we go to series... You may even see some forum members popping
Up from time to time as well.

Thanks for the support... Hope you will all be watching.

Best to all,
Jordan Hembrough
Hollywood Heroes
Host-Toy Hunters

Cobra80
01-12-2012, 02:48 PM
Sent you a PM

Thank you so much! This is on a holiday weekend...so please watch and let me know what you think. I need "butts in the seats", meaning we need people actually watching the show... Since DVrs and recorders dont count towards ratings.

If we go to series... You may even see some forum members popping
Up from time to time as well.

Thanks for the support... Hope you will all be watching.

Best to all,
Jordan Hembrough
Hollywood Heroes
Host-Toy Hunters

Van Hammer
01-12-2012, 05:23 PM
I hope this airs in Canada.

245am
01-13-2012, 02:21 PM
I'll definitely be watching this! For those interested in what the show might cover, check out this interview with Jordan (hollywoodheroes on here). So glad it's not just old tins from the '20s and actually going to show toys I've heard of and would love to see on TV!

http://youbentmywookie.com/features/ybmw-interview-host-of-travel-channels-toy-hunters-jordan-hembrough-15137

And to clarify this quote...
Thank you so much! This is on a holiday weekend...so please watch and let me know what you think. I need "butts in the seats", meaning we need people actually watching the show... Since DVrs and recorders dont count towards ratings.

Jordan, feel free to correct me with information SHARP or Travel Channel may have given you, but people on here saying they will be watching (including me) likely won't count towards ratings unless they are part of Nielsen's sample.

Most people aren't familiar with how TV ratings work, but network & cable tv stations (nor cable & satellite providers for that matter) are not recording what you do and don't watch. Ratings are collected using a sample of U.S. homes specifically recruited to represent the whole of U.S. homes (think congress/representational democracy). These sampled homes' viewing habits are recorded with their consent, and the patterns extrapolated to represent the whole population.

HowStuffWorks "How do TV ratings work and how do they figure out how many people are watching a show?" (http://www.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm)

Also, DVRs should count towards those ratings. DVR'd shows are recorded by Nielsen boxes (and journals) and most cable companies ordering ratings info will request this. The reports do come in late, but they are available. But again, unless you're a Nielsen household, it doesn't matter if you watch or not.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/tv-and-culture/dvr-viewings-tv-ratings1.htm

sharky
01-13-2012, 02:55 PM
Friendly bump. The show will be on this Sunday.

Python Viper
01-13-2012, 03:01 PM
I will be DVRing this.

jdviper
01-13-2012, 03:33 PM
Cool cant wait to watch this show

sudelaya
01-13-2012, 05:02 PM
I came up with this idea 2 years ago. Even had the same name. See: The COIL Midwest Collectors' Club View topic - Toy Hunters TV Show (http://coilclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1685&p=14222#p14222)

MeLikeJinx
01-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Friendly bump. The show will be on this Sunday.
It's going up against NFL Football? Yikes.

JohnnyAngel77
01-14-2012, 01:13 PM
It's going up against NFL Football? Yikes.
DVR is your best friend.

Roshan
01-14-2012, 01:21 PM
Hi Folks,

This is actually my show. I want to welcome everyone to come out and watch. I can tell you honestly... its all real and not staged. I traveled across the country in September to scout out and find some rare toys for the NY Comic Con.


If you're running it, then I take back my previous statement about the show. You know your shit.

Roshan
01-14-2012, 02:37 PM
Although. I just saw this preview text:

Follow Toy and Collectibles dealer Jordan Hembrough and his team as they travel the country searching out the rarest and most sought after toys and pop culture collectibles! Join Jordan as he meets incredible people and learns about the history of some of the most popular toy lines in the past 30 years. He’s out to uncover the Holy Grails of the collecting community… and time is running out!

Travel with Hembrough and his Hollywood Heroes as they journey to New York Comic Con, gathering rare and never before seen toys along the way. Comic Con is the “Super Bowl” of toy wheeling and dealing, gathering thousands of people each year. It’s the event where the biggest comic and toy collectors turn out to spend BIG money on the rarest of toys!

Who's writing that bumper text? Since when has New York Comic Con been a superbowl of toy wheeling and dealing? Like ever? I was at NYCC that weekend and the weekend before I was at Fran's NJCC. There was 10 times the amount of rare toys at Fran's hotel conference room show than in the entirety of NYCC's show floor. So please tell me you aren't going to be pimping up NYCC as something it's not.

So is that panacea's Mad Bubbler that's going to be on the show, or did you pick it up somewhere else?

Cobra80
01-15-2012, 03:14 PM
Although. I just saw this preview text:

Follow Toy and Collectibles dealer Jordan Hembrough and his team as they travel the country searching out the rarest and most sought after toys and pop culture collectibles! Join Jordan as he meets incredible people and learns about the history of some of the most popular toy lines in the past 30 years. He’s out to uncover the Holy Grails of the collecting community… and time is running out!

Travel with Hembrough and his Hollywood Heroes as they journey to New York Comic Con, gathering rare and never before seen toys along the way. Comic Con is the “Super Bowl” of toy wheeling and dealing, gathering thousands of people each year. It’s the event where the biggest comic and toy collectors turn out to spend BIG money on the rarest of toys!

Who's writing that bumper text? Since when has New York Comic Con been a superbowl of toy wheeling and dealing? Like ever? I was at NYCC that weekend and the weekend before I was at Fran's NJCC. There was 10 times the amount of rare toys at Fran's hotel conference room show than in the entirety of NYCC's show floor. So please tell me you aren't going to be pimping up NYCC as something it's not.

So is that panacea's Mad Bubbler that's going to be on the show, or did you pick it up somewhere else?

Wow, Roshan you have lots of hate for this new show and it hasn't aired yet. Why so hostile with it? It's not like Rise of CRAP movie. Where I waited until I actually saw it then could talk about how horrible that crap fest was.

Just wondering.

Cobra80
01-15-2012, 03:15 PM
I hate these freaking shows.


This is what I mean. Why so angry about this show that hasn't even aired yet?

MeLikeJinx
01-15-2012, 03:25 PM
It's going up against NFL Football? Yikes.
Ooo... just looked at the schedule... it airs 9 pm here... perfect. Football is already over and my fav K-drama starts at 9:30.

DVR is your best friend.
I don't have DVR anymore. LOL.

lips
01-15-2012, 03:34 PM
Heads up! Tonight starts a new show called Toy Hunters on the Travel Channel. A show in the same vein as Storage Hunters. Tonight features the NYCC.

Roshan
01-15-2012, 03:35 PM
Wow, Roshan you have lots of hate for this new show and it hasn't aired yet. Why so hostile with it? It's not like Rise of CRAP movie. Where I waited until I actually saw it then could talk about how horrible that crap fest was.

Just wondering.

This is what I mean. Why so angry about this show that hasn't even aired yet?

I hate those shows because they perpetuate stupidity within a hobby and bring out people just out to make a buck instead of furthering the community atmosphere for the good. You need the right host who can show the hobby in the right light, but that's difficult given these networks want shows that pump up the money making aspect of the hobby.

When I heard Jordan was the host, I retracted my statement because it was obvious they weren't bringing in somebody who was clueless about the overall community and hobby. He's been around a long time and knows his stuff, especially in the prototype/unproduced game which is what it looks like he will be focusing on in this first episode.

However, when you're teaser text for the show has incorrect statements about the hobby, that brings me back to my primary concern. There's possible upsides and downsides to this show, but the type of people this show will draw into the community are more likely to be prospectors than nostalgists if this is all about the money.

If you hear my concern as hate, that's fine. But I've been in this community for 15+ years so I care quite a bit what happens to it.

Serpymatt
01-15-2012, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the heads up! DVR is set :)

jpnX
01-15-2012, 03:43 PM
sound interesting, thanxs for the heads up ill check it out

kndy
01-15-2012, 04:00 PM
Thanks! Also set my DVR to record.

spiderpumpkin
01-15-2012, 04:24 PM
Ridgewood toy dealer Jordan Hembrough has a show on Travel Channel - NorthJersey.com (http://www.northjersey.com/arts_entertainment/137368443_Ridgewood_collectibles_dealer_hunts_for_ _toy_gold_.html?scpromo=1&c=y)

Flint Faireborn
01-15-2012, 04:32 PM
Gonna watch to see if the show is good news or bad news for the hobby. Cross our fingers that prices don't sky rocket.

rfarrell22
01-15-2012, 04:32 PM
Nice. I'll check this out also.
You thought the htf figs used to be htf, wait till everyone and their mom starts buying them because of this show ;b

Atreides
01-15-2012, 04:36 PM
DVR Set. Thanks for the heads up.

wyldeweazy
01-15-2012, 05:12 PM
Yep here we go, grab hold of something and prepare to witness the prices on evil-bay to sky rocket.

youdoitimbusy
01-15-2012, 05:28 PM
Yep here we go, grab hold of something and prepare to witness the prices on evil-bay to sky rocket.

exactly...the more they publicize it ,the more people will think they are going to get rich. Itll be amusing to see some of the the garbage people try an hock though.

spot138
01-15-2012, 05:46 PM
I have a feeling my family is going to ride my ass about my collection thanks to this show...

TYPHUS
01-15-2012, 06:24 PM
Maybe all those Arctic Destros will get bought up now........

rdodger
01-15-2012, 06:28 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to record it.

Steel Brigade
01-15-2012, 06:30 PM
DVR is set...

McSoundwave
01-15-2012, 06:33 PM
Indeed, DVR is set. Let's see how much of the spotlight is given to GI Joe. I have a feeling Star Wars is going to be heavily featured. No matter, we shall see soon enough.

spiderpumpkin
01-15-2012, 06:48 PM
I checked out the star's website and he doesn't have much vintage for sale. He must do more brokering and private sales.

hollywood heroes

Cobra80
01-15-2012, 07:01 PM
aspect of the hobby.
There's possible upsides and downsides to this show, but the type of people this show will draw into the community are more likely to be prospectors than nostalgists if this is all about the money.

If you hear my concern as hate, that's fine. But I've been in this community for 15+ years so I care quite a bit what happens to it.

I don't know who Jordan is but can't wait to see his new show. The trailer on the tv guide says he went to Cincinnati and some other city. Anyone know if he went to the Cincinnati toy show last year?

abesapien2
01-15-2012, 07:18 PM
So excited about this!

sharky
01-15-2012, 11:17 PM
Pretty interesting show so far. The guy finds an original rocket firing bob fett in a comic shop that is down the street from the old Kenner factory. The comic shop owner says that 25 years ago he bought it from a Kenner employee for $10 worth of baseball cards.

Edhaskel
01-15-2012, 11:17 PM
So, this show fucking blows.....yeah, a guy who owns the oldest comic in Cincinnati is just sitting on a bunch of unpunched vintage SW, a production sample and rocket firing Boba Fett and doesnt know what their worth....:lol

Zarana
01-15-2012, 11:27 PM
A 50% mark up on most this stuff does not seem like it will cover the expenses.

sharky
01-15-2012, 11:27 PM
So, they hype up the drama a little bit for the show is what I think. It still doesn't take away from the fact that he's finding a bunch of really old and highly sought after toys.

Keep in mind it's still a TV show, and they have to make it interesting.

swafus
01-15-2012, 11:35 PM
Um, yeah, this show is absolute crap. Not only does this guy have diarrhea mouth (m.a.s.k. was not the pre-cursor to Transformers there Mr. expert) but he's a little disrespectful to the creators IMO. I mean he's totally patronizing the TOMART guy. Plus he's dreadfully trying to mimic American Pickers, Storage Wars and Pawn Stars.

I have to agree with Roshan, all this show will acomplish (if it's even picked up for a series) is bringing in a huge wave of prospectors to falsely imflate prices for awhile.

sharky
01-15-2012, 11:39 PM
I don't see what's so terrible about the show. It's interesting to see some of the people he meets and places he goes into. Probably only got access because he's doing a show. Its obviously geared toward a general TV audience and not hardcore toy collectors. I mean, he goes and meets with some of the actual toy designers and such. I think it's neat to see the people behind the toys.

STORMSHADOW2852
01-15-2012, 11:49 PM
this guy is nuttier than squirrel turds...its a tough gig to travel the US in hopes of selling a friggin couple of dolls....thundercats proto is cool but this guy needs a kick in the nuts

mister-x
01-16-2012, 12:01 AM
phucking crazy.... $17,000

Zarana
01-16-2012, 12:02 AM
I want to know more about the buyer. And not just to rob his house.

mister-x
01-16-2012, 12:03 AM
I want to know more about the buyer. And not just to rob his house.

well........im sure he is single now

Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
01-16-2012, 12:10 AM
I call BS...don't get me wrong I mean yeah I know people can and do drop that kinda cash on stuff, but seriously this guy bought this at comicon...yeah just not believing that.

swafus
01-16-2012, 12:20 AM
I call BS...don't get me wrong I mean yeah I know people can and do drop that kinda cash on stuff, but seriously this guy bought this at comicon...yeah just not believing that.

^^This^^

also, I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone in this world would pay $15k + for anything Thundercats related. I don't care how rare it is.

Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.
01-16-2012, 12:26 AM
One thing is for sure he better have also bought his girlfriend a new car as well or she is gone.

Zarana
01-16-2012, 12:27 AM
Or at least a carebear.

CG76
01-16-2012, 12:37 AM
I almost bought the Super Powers Batman and Superman MOC from his NYCC booth. His crew was selling it for a decent price. But I'm not a die hard Super Powers collector and I wanted to save money for this vintage TF I wanted on eBay at the time, and I had other non-toy related obligations, so I passed. After watching the TV show, I wouldn't mind buying from him if he had an item I was interested in. He seemed like a nice guy/dealer on the TV show. And by the way, there was a TV crew filming at the time, so I had to sign some release forms at the time I was at his booth.

AMERICAN_Hero7
01-16-2012, 12:40 AM
I liked the show. Its cheesy bit I saw an ultimate warrior and batman that I had as a kid on there. Plus the old mans warehouse full of unopened toys was refriggindiculous...

Cksport
01-16-2012, 01:12 AM
Can't believe someone spent 17k on a proto boba fett.... If I had the money I would never do that.

JohnnyAngel77
01-16-2012, 01:13 AM
If for no other reason, this show is cool just to see the shit we loved as kids being displayed on TV.

osiris
01-16-2012, 01:18 AM
The show was interesting. 17k for a 3 3/4 boba fett! You gotta be nuts

Magick
01-16-2012, 02:10 AM
Sad thing is.. I know someone who has that canceled Boba Fett proto. Wonder if he would be willing to sell it to me. LOL

Thought Hasbro was going to make that figure as a mail away for the SW line?

However.. Since I collect M.A.S.K., I do believe I am going to get in touch with some of these Kenner employees to try and find 2 canceled toys that made it to hand painted proto stage and shown in the old catalogs.. So.. I hope I can track one or both of them down and they werent destroyed.

spiderpumpkin
01-16-2012, 02:13 AM
Sad thing is.. I know someone who has that canceled Boba Fett proto. Wonder if he would be willing to sell it to me. LOL

Thought Hasbro was going to make that figure as a mail away for the SW line?

However.. Since I collect M.A.S.K., I do believe I am going to get in touch with some of these Kenner employees to try and find 2 canceled toys that made it to hand painted proto stage and shown in the old catalogs.. So.. I hope I can track one or both of them down and they werent destroyed.

You and 200 other MASK collectors that see this show are now looking.

Magick
01-16-2012, 02:15 AM
I have most of the actual produced vehicles and figures.. but it's the 2 unproduced items that I have been trying to acquire for 9 years now. But each contact and lead i would get ended up as a dead end.

Roshan
01-16-2012, 02:44 AM
^^This^^

also, I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone in this world would pay $15k + for anything Thundercats related. I don't care how rare it is.

You'd be wrong. That figure is a grail of grails. Not only that, he failed to even mention the significance of half the stuff in that LJN designers room. They were playing around with two working copies of the canceled second series berzerkers. Just the unpainted resins of those sold for about $6000 each two years back.

It was very very nice to see a Mad Bubbler in the flesh. Was at his booth at NYCC and didn't even see the Bubbler for sale. But if we get some confirmation on some of these produced figures from this show, then that's good.

But like you mentioned earlier, he's shooting himself in the foot if he continues to acts like he does to these designers. Don't think that some of them won't watch this show and shut him off the moment he tries to make contact. I've been in a few designers houses. It's a privilage they let you in there, show a little more respect here. He's treating them like they're a granny trying to dump the christmas toys they never brought out of the attic.

Hopefully that's just staged, and he doesn't actually talk that way to former employees. But Tomart's was a good laugh, because that warehouse has been cleared out of the really good stuff for a loooooong time now.

Whether you like it or not, you gott admit that it feels like Travel Channel is tanking this thing. Three hours leading up to it I didn't see a single promo commercial. It's stuck in a time slot of 10 pm CST, with no re-run later in the night. Would have been nice to give it a better shake.

Roshan
01-16-2012, 02:50 AM
You and 200 other MASK collectors that see this show are now looking.


200 MASK collectors already have been making calls over the years. He's not doing anything that a lot of other people aren't already doing.

The underground market for this stuff is huge. A lot gets found, and much of it never gets seen by the rest of the community. Which is why this show can do some good getting some never before seen stuff out there.

Magick
01-16-2012, 02:54 AM
Which is what I am hoping to see.. If anything i am more curious to see or hear if those two items actually survived or not. If so.. then my search will continue. if I find out that they were destroyed.. then the search is over and I can just concentrate on getting the over seas items to complete my collection. (Probably the cheaper route in the long run LOL)

Finding stuff that has never been produced, but is whispered among collectors to have at least made it to proto stage takes a lot of patience and several phone calls, emails and tenacity to keep pushing forward to try and find. Ther are more than enough Joe collectors( looking at You Gary..and Gary. :D) out there trying to bring those elusive figures and vehicles to light, but for those few M.A.S.K. fans out there, I would like to bring those two items to light and once and for all answer the question as to how far they made it even if they didn't make it to mass production.

Roshan
01-16-2012, 03:03 AM
Finding stuff that has never been produced, but is whispered among collectors to have at least made it to proto stage takes a lot of patience and several phone calls, emails and tenacity to keep pushing forward to try and find. Ther are more than enough Joe collectors( looking at You Gary..and Gary. :D) out there trying to bring those elusive figures and vehicles to light, but for those few M.A.S.K. fans out there, I would like to bring those two items to light and once and for all answer the question as to how far they made it even if they didn't make it to mass production.

I'm in the same camp as you, for a lot of these lines. I've got a lot of completed action figure lines, and nearly every one of them had that last series that just didn't make it. As a historian, getting the answers to how far along, what the process was, and how many survived is more important to me than to who ends up getting it.

MeLikeJinx
01-16-2012, 03:04 AM
This show was great! That host is like Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky… he is living the dream. He gets to dig through people’s toy stashes. I realize this show is about as real as Ghost Hunters on Syfy (lol), but man… it is just fun soaking in all that old school toy ambience. I really loved seeing those vintage Tron Bikes.

And thanks to this show I now know what was in the briefcase that John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson were carrying in Pulp Fiction… it was the Rocket Firing Boba Fett & Mad Bubbler protos. Haha.

The need to hunt the entire carded Argen 7 Joes next.

Magick
01-16-2012, 03:09 AM
Exactly.. I am not seeking these pieces out for profit. I want to answer mine and many others questions on if these survived and if they can be brought into the spotlight to answer the questions once and for all. Every line has these and there isn't always a person there that does the leg work to try and find them. Would I love to have these in my collection.. of course, but to be able to physically see them and touch them is more important. Hell even to be able to take pics to prove they exist would be awesome. LOL

Christoph
01-16-2012, 05:46 AM
I hope the show gets picked up. Neat idea!!!!

Hicks_Royel
01-16-2012, 05:54 AM
I really hope it doesn't... you think it's stupid paying too much for toys right now. Wait until everyone thinks that what they have is Toy Hunter worthy.

Quote the future eBay Listing:

One of thes things went for just under 8k on the show Toy Hunters recently, who knows how much it'll go for by the end of the year. Don't miss out on investing in this rare, one of a kind item.

CobraCrimson
01-16-2012, 07:54 AM
What time and how many times a week is this show going to be on? Are they showing a re-run of last nights show?

sharky
01-16-2012, 09:35 AM
This show was great! That host is like Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky… he is living the dream. He gets to dig through people’s toy stashes. I realize this show is about as real as Ghost Hunters on Syfy (lol), but man… it is just fun soaking in all that old school toy ambience. I really loved seeing those vintage Tron Bikes.

And thanks to this show I now know what was in the briefcase that John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson were carrying in Pulp Fiction… it was the Rocket Firing Boba Fett & Mad Bubbler protos. Haha.

The need to hunt the entire carded Argen 7 Joes next.
I just hope it sticks around long enough to show more collections from various brands and subjects.

I think the problem is they can't spend a whole lot of time in any one topic or place as they will most likely lose any general TV audience who is not interested in toys per se, but only in the money aspect of what he is finding and how much he can sell it for. Still, if they can sprinkle in some accurate toy and pop culture information it may help to promote the hobby and make it more legitimate. Then perhaps it won't be stigmatized as much as it is.

Troynos
01-16-2012, 09:38 AM
I'll need to watch this just to see if I show up on camera at NYCC, lol

jaakub
01-16-2012, 11:20 AM
I thought the show was ok. I liked seeing what the former employees had. I found the star to be a laughable joke. He reminded me of any comic book store owner ive ever met. Blowing smoke up peoples butts to get what they want in the end. More money. I found it staged at some points. I mean he goes in a comic shop and the owner doesnt know the value of a boba fett rocket firing prototype. I call BS. Nice try but epic fail. Even like the m.a.s.k. Stuff. Im sure he sold the two vehicles and only made $50 off them. Last jet mib that was on ebay sold for $300. Here is the problem i see when Scalpers like this go out and buy toys off former employees and broadcast it on tv. First they lie to the person they bought it from and say oh ill only make $20 off this if i buy it from you for $40. Then the former employee watches it air and looks the item up on ebay and sees that they were ripped off. Hence, the employee is now less likely to sell to true collectors out of fear of being duped. Good point to this is the boba fett prototype. He tells the store owner it is worth 10k and ill give you 5k for it. Then when he goes to sell it at comic con i knew he would start it at 20k. Lol. Now if that owner really didnt know the cost of it he would have watched that and been pissed. The point of the show where he said that M.A.S.K. Was the precursor to transformers i laughed. Are you kidding? For someone that is suppose to be an expert on toys to think this is true is a joke. It just confirmed for me how little the fool of a host knew about toys. Plus i dare anyone to call his toy shop and tell him you would like to purchase a m.a.s.k. Stillehto mib for $50. See what kind of response you get from the store. Lol.
Jim

Lody
01-16-2012, 11:38 AM
Which is what I am hoping to see.. If anything i am more curious to see or hear if those two items actually survived or not. If so.. then my search will continue. if I find out that they were destroyed.. then the search is over and I can just concentrate on getting the over seas items to complete my collection. (Probably the cheaper route in the long run LOL)

Finding stuff that has never been produced, but is whispered among collectors to have at least made it to proto stage takes a lot of patience and several phone calls, emails and tenacity to keep pushing forward to try and find. Ther are more than enough Joe collectors( looking at You Gary..and Gary. :D) out there trying to bring those elusive figures and vehicles to light, but for those few M.A.S.K. fans out there, I would like to bring those two items to light and once and for all answer the question as to how far they made it even if they didn't make it to mass production.

Are we talking Ramp-up and Hardball?

samantha
01-16-2012, 11:40 AM
Is the show online? and if so where?

Lody
01-16-2012, 11:41 AM
I thought the show was ok. I liked seeing what the former employees had. I found the star to be a laughable joke. He reminded me of any comic book store owner ive ever met. Blowing smoke up peoples butts to get what they want in the end. More money. I found it staged at some points. I mean he goes in a comic shop and the owner doesnt know the value of a boba fett rocket firing prototype. I call BS. Nice try but epic fail. Even like the m.a.s.k. Stuff. Im sure he sold the two vehicles and only made $50 off them. Last jet mib that was on ebay sold for $300. Here is the problem i see when Scalpers like this go out and buy toys off former employees and broadcast it on tv. First they lie to the person they bought it from and say oh ill only make $20 off this if i buy it from you for $40. Then the former employee watches it air and looks the item up on ebay and sees that they were ripped off. Hence, the employee is now less likely to sell to true collectors out of fear of being duped. Good point to this is the boba fett prototype. He tells the store owner it is worth 10k and ill give you 5k for it. Then when he goes to sell it at comic con i knew he would start it at 20k. Lol. Now if that owner really didnt know the cost of it he would have watched that and been pissed. The point of the show where he said that M.A.S.K. Was the precursor to transformers i laughed. Are you kidding? For someone that is suppose to be an expert on toys to think this is true is a joke. It just confirmed for me how little the fool of a host knew about toys. Plus i dare anyone to call his toy shop and tell him you would like to purchase a m.a.s.k. Stillehto mib for $50. See what kind of response you get from the store. Lol.
Jim

I DVR'd it and will watch tonight

I predict me getting very upset with this guy and calling his store to complain.

jaakub
01-16-2012, 11:45 AM
Yea i wasnt too happy with him after watching it. Lol
I also found it pretty crappy of him trying to lowball the designers on items they actually designed. I mean show some respect for there work.
Jim

Roshan
01-16-2012, 11:46 AM
I thought the show was ok. I liked seeing what the former employees had. I found the star to be a laughable joke. He reminded me of any comic book store owner ive ever met. Blowing smoke up peoples butts to get what they want in the end. More money. I found it staged at some points. I mean he goes in a comic shop and the owner doesnt know the value of a boba fett rocket firing prototype. I call BS. Nice try but epic fail. Even like the m.a.s.k. Stuff. Im sure he sold the two vehicles and only made $50 off them. Last jet mib that was on ebay sold for $300. Here is the problem i see when Scalpers like this go out and buy toys off former employees and broadcast it on tv. First they lie to the person they bought it from and say oh ill only make $20 off this if i buy it from you for $40. Then the former employee watches it air and looks the item up on ebay and sees that they were ripped off. Hence, the employee is now less likely to sell to true collectors out of fear of being duped. Good point to this is the boba fett prototype. He tells the store owner it is worth 10k and ill give you 5k for it. Then when he goes to sell it at comic con i knew he would start it at 20k. Lol. Now if that owner really didnt know the cost of it he would have watched that and been pissed. The point of the show where he said that M.A.S.K. Was the precursor to transformers i laughed. Are you kidding? For someone that is suppose to be an expert on toys to think this is true is a joke. It just confirmed for me how little the fool of a host knew about toys. Plus i dare anyone to call his toy shop and tell him you would like to purchase a m.a.s.k. Stillehto mib for $50. See what kind of response you get from the store. Lol.
Jim


I guarantee he knows more about action figures than you do. Yes the MASK comment was a mistake, but you're going to have a little mistake here or there.

Agree completely on him alienating other former employees. This was one of my worries.

As for the comic-con starting sale price on the rocket fett. Remember he was selling it as a broker. He was taking a percentage of the sale.

TK1945
01-16-2012, 11:50 AM
Overall I liked the show and hope to see more of it just from the collecting standpoint. I did find some of it hard to swallow and there were a few moments where I found myself nerd venting to my wife. M.A.S.K. the precursor to Transformers? Blasphemy!

SonOfMindbender
01-16-2012, 11:58 AM
I've dealt with this guy before, being from up North and growing up at conventions. He's done shows all over the east coast for years. I will give him credit and say his prices were always fair he's just average from what I remember. He's always had a boner for SW. He almost has to use eBay to pay for the employee margin he now has...unless the show gets picked up.

Didn't Brian's Toys at action a few years back sell the Unreleased Fet figure for like $25,000?

Shipshape1983
01-16-2012, 11:58 AM
It was ok..

Joe Fan 1
01-16-2012, 12:02 PM
Yea i wasnt too happy with him after watching it. Lol
I also found it pretty crappy of him trying to lowball the designers on items they actually designed. I mean show some respect for there work.
Jim

Yeah, I watched it with my girlfriend who was initially excited about it. Both being collectors we thought the show would be similar in style to Storage Wars or American Pickers. The only similarities I saw were his using Darrell Sheets phrase "The Wow Factor" and going through organized garages claiming he's "Pickin".

I personally felt the guy to be annoying and just didn't like him. After watching the show I personally think that I will have a harder time getting vintage collectibles at reasonable prices.

My girlfriend who collects Care Bears and Ponies was quick to point out that he OVERPAID for the plush Care Bears by about $130. For those of you that care, I have her feelings of the show on the My Little Pony Trading Post below. I'm sure our collectors of vintage girls toys may also feel the same way.

Toy Hunter show on Travel channel - Page 2 - My Little Pony Trading Post (http://www.mlptp.net/forums/friends-discussion/93147-toy-hunter-show-travel-channel-2.html#post699425)

Magick
01-16-2012, 12:03 PM
Are we talking Ramp-up and Hardball?

Ramp Up and Thunderball yes. I have seen the catalog scans and the one pic that seems to have been taken from someones collection.. Found the names of the owner of the Ramp up.. contacting him.. whole other story.

jaakub
01-16-2012, 12:10 PM
Im sure he knows more on certain toy lines but to say he knows more then me on all toys is a little inaccurate. Sure everyone makes mistakes but he has a show where he is bragging about his expertise and then to say that misinformation and not catch it in editing. I dont think it was a mistake but rather he believes it. Thats neither here nor there.
I just fear that by him lowballing these former employees on their stuff he is going to close a lot of doors for other collectors. I know first hand how cautious former employees are and how it takes a while to build trust for them to even show you some of their stuff let alone sell it. Its attention hounds like him that usually ruin a good thing for others.
The boba fett was on consignment (lucky for the store owner) but he knew the opening price was closer to 20k and not 10k like anyone else who has seen one of these sell. And then try to offer 5k. That is just insulting if you know what that figure is and the big name celebrities that collect those it can easily fetch 15-20k. Im just saying if his show continues it is gonna make it alot harder for collectors in general.
Jim

Griff
01-16-2012, 12:14 PM
Greeeeat just what we need to give credence and validity to douchebag scalpers and a show that showcases them....not to mention now everyone is gonna think they can make money selling to toys... like sh&t wasnt hard enough to find already!

kndy
01-16-2012, 12:14 PM
Yea i wasnt too happy with him after watching it. Lol
I also found it pretty crappy of him trying to lowball the designers on items they actually designed. I mean show some respect for there work.
Jim

I felt the same way... BTW, was this a one shot show or is it a weekly series?

Gyre-Viper
01-16-2012, 12:14 PM
It was worth it just to see the Mad Bubbler and Red Eye.
As for the show itself... I didn't think it was going to solely rely on the
'buy to sell' aspect but that's what all the other reality shows are about
so I guess I should have expected that.

The M.A.S.K. being a precursor to Transformers comment was um... yeahhhhhh.... I'm surprised the Kenner dude didn't say something. I know I did. HAAHAHHA.

If the show picks up I'll watch it regardless. Hopefully it becomes more educational. No one should be that excited to see MIB M.A.S.K. vehicles if the next stop is to hold a Mad Bubbler. "Hey look it's BATMAN!" Should have been "Holy Snowmeow Batman, I'm late to see a Lunataks Red Eye in person!"

And that Cat's Lair head was AMAZING. GAH. How do you even put something like that down. I'm not even a Thundercats collector and I would have had trouble not going nutso over that head.

Roshan
01-16-2012, 12:17 PM
Ramp Up and Thunderball yes. I have seen the catalog scans and the one pic that seems to have been taken from someones collection.. Found the names of the owner of the Ramp up.. contacting him.. whole other story.

An unpainted thunderball proto was on ebay just last year. That one's not a mystery.

Joe Fan 1
01-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Um, yeah, this show is absolute crap. Not only does this guy have diarrhea mouth (m.a.s.k. was not the pre-cursor to Transformers there Mr. expert) but he's a little disrespectful to the creators IMO. I mean he's totally patronizing the TOMART guy. Plus he's dreadfully trying to mimic American Pickers, Storage Wars and Pawn Stars.

I have to agree with Roshan, all this show will acomplish (if it's even picked up for a series) is bringing in a huge wave of prospectors to falsely imflate prices for awhile.

After watching the show, I agree with you completely. I also thought he was disrespectful. And if you notice he does claim to be "pickin" peoples garages and I believe he quoted Darrell Sheets of Storage Wars claiming he had "the Wow factor".

I also am concerned that this will inflate prices for those of us with a passion NOT A PROFIT for toys.

CVdelgado
01-16-2012, 12:23 PM
Ugh...

Mermaniel
01-16-2012, 12:27 PM
I havent watched the show, but reading you guys' comments, I dont know if I want to...this guy sounds like a real douche...Plus I only collect joys, so if there's no joe stuff on the show, its not as interesting.

Guess I'll have to watch it once and make my own opinion.

Good thing I dont collect vintage toys, cause sounds like the prices will go up because of shows like this...

Magick
01-16-2012, 12:34 PM
An unpainted thunderball proto was on ebay just last year. That one's not a mystery.

Damn.. wish i would have known that then. LOL Maybe another one will show up sometime. Till then, I will just continue to hunt them down.

crock master
01-16-2012, 12:41 PM
maybe someone will buy my BOULDER HILL PLAYSET now.

sharky
01-16-2012, 12:44 PM
To those saying he low-balled. Is it because he was giving them dealer prices as opposed to collector prices in order to sell them, or did he truly underestimate the collector value in the first place. I'm not a vintage collector so I wouldn't know if his top dollar amount was low or not.

Lody
01-16-2012, 12:44 PM
maybe someone will buy my BOULDER HILL PLAYSET now.

Complete?

COBRACOLLECTOR
01-16-2012, 12:48 PM
Gotta catch this show ! what channel ?

Magick
01-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Travel Channel

Scotty97
01-16-2012, 12:50 PM
To those saying he low-balled. Is it because he was giving them dealer prices as opposed to collector prices in order to sell them, or did he truly underestimate the collector value in the first place. I'm not a vintage collector so I wouldn't know if his top dollar amount was low or not.

I wouldn't fault him for giving 50% or less of what he would sell it for, that's how businesses make money. But, I fault him for what he claims he'll sell it for and then offers 50%, knowing that it will sell for considerably higher than he just told the seller(and the audience). I thought the most egregious was the Wicket proto/mockup MOC. He'll make a killing on that thing.
His business ethics aside, though, he was also had the most annoying "Lottery Announcer" voice that never stopped. Like a more effeminate but just as excitable Billy Mays.

sharky
01-16-2012, 12:50 PM
I see two sides to the coin. On the one hand perhaps it will promote more speculators and will raise prices of vintage toys. On the other perhaps it will promote more interest in toy collecting and maybe we will see Hasbro and others making more new product such as Joes. Being someone who doesn't collect vintage stuff I have no problem with the show.

~Synder Corps.~
01-16-2012, 12:51 PM
I agree with jaakub... The show itself was pretty cool, just to see what people have stashed away in boxes and what-not, but his credibility really came into question when he made the comment about MASK and TFs.

Then he came off as a bit unprofessional when he geeked out a few times over some of the finds. It's one thing to not screw over a seller, but he dosen't have to be like "OMG...Know how much I can get for this???"

But he was only brokering the deal for Boba Fett. The guy he got it from is probably happier since he was able to jack up the price by another 7 grand and only losing 20% from the 17

~Synder Corps.~
01-16-2012, 12:53 PM
It'll be interesting if he ever finds a FLAGG

crock master
01-16-2012, 12:53 PM
To those saying he low-balled. Is it because he was giving them dealer prices as opposed to collector prices in order to sell them, or did he truly underestimate the collector value in the first place. I'm not a vintage collector so I wouldn't know if his top dollar amount was low or not.

there is no such thing as vintage toys dealer prices. there is only such thing as lucky scores from garage sales and or desperate sales

sharky
01-16-2012, 12:56 PM
I agree with jaakub... The show itself was pretty cool, just to see what people have stashed away in boxes and what-not, but his credibility really came into question when he made the comment about MASK and TFs.

Then he came off as a bit unprofessional when he geeked out a few times over some of the finds. It's one thing to not screw over a seller, but he dosen't have to be like "OMG...Know how much I can get for this???"

But he was only brokering the deal for Boba Fett. The guy he got it from is probably happier since he was able to jack up the price by another 7 grand and only losing 20% from the 17
That's kind of my feeling. I wish the show could be more centered around featuring people, their collections, and just collecting in general rather than focusing on the buying and selling for profit. I suppose that doesn't sell a show to the broadcasters though. I guess they have to show some kind of story or achievement as in him trying to make $20,000 rather than simply collecting for the fun of having the toys.

crock master
01-16-2012, 12:57 PM
Complete?

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for sale.MASK BOULDER HILL PLAYSET. missing 1 figure 2 mask, comic and jail cell. cell door is present.





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sharky
01-16-2012, 01:01 PM
there is no such thing as vintage toys dealer prices. there is only such thing as lucky scores from garage sales and or desperate sales
What about all the comic shops and toy shops that buy stuff from people in order to sell it. No way are they going to give top dollar on something knowing they can't mark it up much more in order to turn a profit. There is always the price a collector would be willing to pay and there is always the dealer who will not buy something at top dollar because he has to mark it up to turn a profit.

crock master
01-16-2012, 01:06 PM
What about all the comic shops and toy shops that buy stuff from people in order to sell it. No way are they going to give top dollar on something knowing they can't mark it up much more in order to turn a profit. There is always the price a collector would be willing to pay and there is always the dealer who will not buy something at top dollar because he has to mark it up to turn a profit.

like i said desperate sales. unless you are stating there are some wholesaler's out there with cases apoun cases of unopend vintage joe vehicles.
all the comic shops by my house that have vintage toys are all done by trades and sales from customers.and that atleast 4 differnt shops.

Gyre-Viper
01-16-2012, 01:08 PM
To those saying he low-balled. Is it because he was giving them dealer prices as opposed to collector prices in order to sell them, or did he truly underestimate the collector value in the first place. I'm not a vintage collector so I wouldn't know if his top dollar amount was low or not.


It seemed to be a weird combination of both. There were some inconsistencies. But that could have just been due to editing and time and on-camera vs off-camera discussion.


He's been doing this stuff for a long time but if you're going to do a television show... educating the audience and listening to the designers/sellers/experts is the first key to not alienating them all.

COBRACOLLECTOR
01-16-2012, 01:08 PM
Travel Channel

Thankz Magik !

~Synder Corps.~
01-16-2012, 01:09 PM
That's kind of my feeling. I wish the show could be more centered around featuring people, their collections, and just collecting in general rather than focusing on the buying and selling for profit. I suppose that doesn't sell a show to the broadcasters though. I guess they have to show some kind of story or achievement as in him trying to make $20,000 rather than simply collecting for the fun of having the toys.

Honestly I'd be more interested in your idea than some half wit goofball going around. The current concept is more like Storage Wars and glamourising a Scalper lifestyle. Which from a collectors standpoint is rather despised as is, but then to air it on TV. At least the guy from Tomarts kept his ass in check.

But if they would put out a show that actually portrays Collectors I think it would be recieved generally well the host could ask a few questions about some of the harder items the collector finally obtained, show off the shelves or boxes, and MAYBE get offered something for a piece or 2

Gyre-Viper
01-16-2012, 01:12 PM
I wouldn't fault him for giving 50% or less of what he would sell it for, that's how businesses make money. But, I fault him for what he claims he'll sell it for and then offers 50%, knowing that it will sell for considerably higher than he just told the seller(and the audience). I thought the most egregious was the Wicket proto/mockup MOC. He'll make a killing on that thing.
His business ethics aside, though, he was also had the most annoying "Lottery Announcer" voice that never stopped. Like a more effeminate but just as excitable Billy Mays.


Yeah that Wicket thing kinda pissed me off cuz instead of coming off as a preproduction authority... he was kinda like "I think this is..." when you know he KNOWS what that is. Not only is it a mock up but it has the sample numbers and everything.

That's kind of my feeling. I wish the show could be more centered around featuring people, their collections, and just collecting in general rather than focusing on the buying and selling for profit. I suppose that doesn't sell a show to the broadcasters though. I guess they have to show some kind of story or achievement as in him trying to make $20,000 rather than simply collecting for the fun of having the toys.


Yeah but the show before and after Toy Hunter was the
Monster prop making show. Where they show the process and do convention coverage etc. But yeah I can see how it would be hard to sell a show on nerd-ism... I mean I've tried to bring things to light on this forum that most people could care less about hahahahahahaha.
But maybe people just don't want to hear it from me.

Magick
01-16-2012, 01:16 PM
Bah.. your my inside man on unproduced items.. several of them, I would have not known about if it wasn't for you and the declassified guys.

sharky
01-16-2012, 01:17 PM
They're used to be a show on cable that was kind of like an Antique Roadshow type of thing. They had a couple of people and they would sit in a room and people would bring stuff or they would send in pics and talk over the phone. They would appraise the items for the people, and they would go out and do features on buying stuff. Once in a while they would feature a toy of some kind. I really forget the name of it. But, it was more of a talk show and definitely not a reality type show.

Gyre-Viper
01-16-2012, 01:28 PM
Bah.. your my inside man on unproduced items.. several of them, I would have not known about if it wasn't for you and the declassified guys.


Hold on tight... we've got some crazy surprises for the podcast and for the booth at JoeCon this year.

Magick
01-16-2012, 01:30 PM
Hold on tight... we've got some crazy surprises for the podcast and for the booth at JoeCon this year.

Sweet! can't wait. Still trying to track down some of the other stuff you've shown. LOL

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 01:31 PM
Watched it even though I tried to avoid it, nothing special really IMO. He tried to come accross like and expert but made several comments that proved he wasn't (the aforementioned MASK precurser to TF, he also implied Kenner made TF in the comic shop).

I found myself getting bored with the show pretty quickly. Some of that stuff is neat but things like wicket on a squid head card I was like "OK so what." I understand the value ect, but it's one of those items I scratch my head about when collectors go nuts over it.

Also the SW figs that had unpunched cards, did he ever grab those? He looked at them and then things shifted to the Boba Fett which is a great peice but it would seem he would want to grab the SW's too as a much better (easier) sell than such a high end peice, then again I wasn't paying too much attention at the NYCC segment until he sold the Boba Fett.

I did find it very hard to believe the comic shop guy had that stuff all this time and had no clue it's value. The SW unpunched cards were too obvious even for a guy who focuses on comics. And Boba Fett, I mean I know of a dozen comic shop owners who have no clue about SW and know that is worth tons. Seemed staged to me (which is fine but really pulls you out of that "reality" moment). If staged I think they should have staged it better (ie the comic guy had the SW stuff ready, they negociated ect. Rather than him being completely clueless).

That and our host came accross like a douche focused purely on money and not on the coolness factor of what he was finding.

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 01:33 PM
They're used to be a show on cable that was kind of like an Antique Roadshow type of thing. They had a couple of people and they would sit in a room and people would bring stuff or they would send in pics and talk over the phone. They would appraise the items for the people, and they would go out and do features on buying stuff. Once in a while they would feature a toy of some kind. I really forget the name of it. But, it was more of a talk show and definitely not a reality type show.

That would be interesting to me, much more than the show we are seeing now. plus having multiple people would probably reduce on that "douche" factor of the guy hosting now.

Gyre-Viper
01-16-2012, 01:39 PM
Watched it even though I tried to avoid it, nothing special really IMO. He tried to come accross like and expert but made several comments that proved he wasn't (the aforementioned MASK precurser to TF, he also implied Kenner made TF in the comic shop).

I found myself getting bored with the show pretty quickly. Some of that stuff is neat but things like wicket on a squid head card I was like "OK so what." I understand the value ect, but it's one of those items I scratch my head about when collectors go nuts over it.

Also the SW figs that had unpunched cards, did he ever grab those? He looked at them and then things shifted to the Boba Fett which is a great peice but it would seem he would want to grab the SW's too as a much better (easier) sell than such a high end peice, then again I wasn't paying too much attention at the NYCC segment until he sold the Boba Fett.

I did find it very hard to believe the comic shop guy had that stuff all this time and had no clue it's value. The SW unpunched cards were too obvious even for a guy who focuses on comics. And Boba Fett, I mean I know of a dozen comic shop owners who have no clue about SW and know that is worth tons. Seemed staged to me (which is fine but really pulls you out of that "reality" moment). If staged I think they should have staged it better (ie the comic guy had the SW stuff ready, they negociated ect. Rather than him being completely clueless).

That and our host came accross like a douche focused purely on money and not on the coolness factor of what he was finding.



Mock-ups are an acquired taste sometimes. Most people see the wrong figure on a card and shrug it off. But for someone like me at least... it tells a story. And the fun is trying to figure out what the story is... AND isn't. Sometimes the lack of an actual story IS the story. But don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting everyone should care about these things.
I'm just answering the question you didn't ask. heheheh. But see if he had gone into more detail about the Wicket mock up and even the Hasbro Standard green card that was on the Batman figure... that would have been far more interesting than "here's something you see every day... it's a Care Bear!"

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 01:43 PM
Mock-ups are an acquired taste sometimes. Most people see the wrong figure on a card and shrug it off. But for someone like me at least... it tells a story. And the fun is trying to figure out what the story is... AND isn't. Sometimes the lack of an actual story IS the story. But don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting everyone should care about these things.
I'm just answering the question you didn't ask. heheheh. But see if he had gone into more detail about the Wicket mock up and even the Hasbro Standard green card that was on the Batman figure... that would have been far more interesting than "here's something you see every day... it's a Care Bear!"

No I actually get that, but then when the story is brought forth it almost seems there is nothing special any more, might be just me but beyond the why the idea is kind of lame after that (just my opinion). Even then it's mostly a pretty mundane reason anyway (test shot, production error) that is kind of neat but at the same time seems over inflated as if "OH THE GREATEST THING EVAR!!!!" I just find them interesting but nothing more than that.

WildWill
01-16-2012, 01:52 PM
I haven't watched it yet, but I will.

The thing about the Boba Fett is that there are SEVERAL unproduced prototypes floating about, AND more than a few counterfeits. I hope they got the provenance on that one that sold for 17K.

I mean there's pics in the Steve Sansweet book for chrissake.


As for those who are asking, the episode that aired last night was a pilot, the show has not been ordered yet, they're going to look at the ratings for that showing and decide whether or not to place an order (for 6 or 13 probably).

Hollywoodheroes
01-16-2012, 01:59 PM
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 02:01 PM
The thing about the Boba Fett is that there are SEVERAL unproduced prototypes floating about, AND more than a few counterfeits. I hope they got the provenance on that one that sold for 17K.


Just to clairify, they did call in a guy who used to work on the SW line to come in and authenticate it. He was even able to tell what plant it was molded at apparently (by some mark under the foot).

Serpymatt
01-16-2012, 02:01 PM
Overall I liked the show and hope to see more of it just from the collecting standpoint. I did find some of it hard to swallow and there were a few moments where I found myself nerd venting to my wife. M.A.S.K. the precursor to Transformers? Blasphemy!

That line was my only main beef with the show.

Other than that, I enjoyed it :)

Zarana
01-16-2012, 02:03 PM
Were the numbers good enough to be picked up?

sharky
01-16-2012, 02:12 PM
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan
Thanks for the clarification. I hope the show does well and I will continue to watch it.

Edit: but I think Transformers did indeed come a year before MASK. In any case it's not a big deal to me as I didn't even pay attention to that comment on the show. However, you may get some corrections from the fans.

sharky
01-16-2012, 02:14 PM
OK, the host posted this in the first thread about the show. Hope it clears things up.
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/movies-dvd-television/189261-toy-hunters-new-travel-channel-show.html
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan

Serpymatt
01-16-2012, 02:16 PM
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan

All valid points - a show, if it's going to succeed, needs to be able to reach further than its original target demographic.

jaakub
01-16-2012, 02:17 PM
I think the show would have been better just talking to the three former designers. Then watching that fool run all over. Lol. I even think the guy with the batman stuff really wanted to talk about what he designed. My favorite part was when the dummy host was talking about the batman vehicles and the designer said something and the host tried to correct him and he said well i did design it. Sort of stopped him in his tracks. Lol
I was thinking the same thing about the unpunched 12 backs too

Also his "contact" that went with him to the comic shop reminded me of some of the douches that would run to toy isles when the stores open to grab all the "rare" figures and sell them to comic shops.lol

I was thinking this during the show too. He took $3000 as his budget. He spent about a grand on what he bought (according to the show). What i was thinking was that he only took $3000. He was going to pick through former employees stashes of toys and only took 3k. Just seemed low to me.

I also thought the scripting got real bad with his secretary. Come on, really? Lol. It reminded me of a bad rip off of american pickers. Lol
Jim

spiderpumpkin
01-16-2012, 02:19 PM
They're used to be a show on cable that was kind of like an Antique Roadshow type of thing. They had a couple of people and they would sit in a room and people would bring stuff or they would send in pics and talk over the phone. They would appraise the items for the people, and they would go out and do features on buying stuff. Once in a while they would feature a toy of some kind. I really forget the name of it. But, it was more of a talk show and definitely not a reality type show.

Collectin' Stuff? It was on in the late 1990s on cable. I can't remember which network but I think it was on FX.

ShadowNinja
01-16-2012, 02:20 PM
I like the show but that guy was obnoxious. I only collect joe and some other misc lines thrown in. I dont do mask 'cept that it is cool and some SW which I knew all about the boba they showed but I wasnt sure how much it was worth. He needs to chill a bit though. And who here gets really excited about a find like the guy at nycc did? Come on admit it you know you did. I once skipped down a aisle in front of my wife when I found a fig I really wanted :-)

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 02:20 PM
The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Just to back that up, I have heard that term on shows like Porject Runway (Ok my wife made me watch) and other shows for years (I think it was even in an expedia commercial by one of the guys on PR) so it's not a big deal to see it on TH.


Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.



There was one or two moments with the Kenner guy I thought might have been interpeted as disrespectfull, but since nothing else was said I figured there was some joke edited out that we (the viewer) didn't catch that would help interpret that. Still, it was hard to see looking in as we were.


Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

OK to be blunt, this comment actually is worse than the one on TV. Transformers came out in the USA in 1984 whereas MASK didn't hit until 1985. In addtion it has been said that MASK was a hybrid of GI Joe and Transformers. I get trying to simplify but at the same time the facts are wrong.

Personally I can see getting a bit excited and screwing up a factoid (I do it all the time) and there is nothing wrong with that, but then trying to change the meaning there, sorry that doesn't hold up. Trying not be a know it all jerk here, but that is how I see it.

sharky
01-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Collectin' Stuff? It was on in the late 1990s on cable. I can't remember which network but I think it was on FX.
I think that was it.

Edit:
Actually, now that I bothered to look it up this was the show.
Personal FX: The Collectibles Show (TV Series 1994) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138252/)

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 02:23 PM
OK, the host posted this in the first thread about the show. Hope it clears things up.
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/movies-dvd-television/189261-toy-hunters-new-travel-channel-show.html

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I saw that, but I had to call him on the MASK comment though as many have said the idea of MASK was a purposefull combo of GI Joe and Transformers (also TF did come to the states a year before MASK).

sharky
01-16-2012, 02:25 PM
I saw that, but I had to call him on the MASK comment though as many have said the idea of MASK was a purposefull combo of GI Joe and Transformers (also TF did come to the states a year before MASK).
Pretty sure Transformers came out in 84 and MASK in 85. Also, I remember buying and playing with Transformers before buying any MASK stuff. Even as a kid I was thinking that MASK was trying to cash in on all the transforming toy poplularity started by Transformers.

Troynos
01-16-2012, 02:29 PM
MASK definately came out after Transformers.

spiderpumpkin
01-16-2012, 02:29 PM
I think that was it.

It was on daily with a man and woman hosting. I can't find anything about it on google. I think the show ended in 1998 around the time the Lost in Space movie was released. I remember that because they showcased a Lost in Space collection.

sharky
01-16-2012, 02:31 PM
It was on daily with a man and woman hosting. I can't find anything about it on google. I think the show ended in 1998 around the time the Lost in Space movie was released. I remember that because they showcased a Lost in Space collection.

I edited my previous post. This was the show.
Personal FX: The Collectibles Show (TV Series 1994) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138252/)

It wasn't centered around toy collecting, but it was still pretty good IMO.

spiderpumpkin
01-16-2012, 02:35 PM
I edited my previous post. This was the show.
Personal FX: The Collectibles Show (TV Series 1994) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138252/)

It wasn't centered around toy collecting, but it was still pretty good IMO.

Yeah, that's the one. I used to watch that all the time with my dad.

jaakub
01-16-2012, 02:35 PM
Thank you zedhatch. I just read his reply and almost dropped my ipad (which was the precursor to the apple IIe lol) from laughing so hard. I just find the show staged and crap. Answer me this hollywoodheroes, how can a comic book store owner 3miles from Kenner not know what the value is of star wars figures carded and unpunched 12backs? Give me a break. Lol
Jim

jaakub
01-16-2012, 02:39 PM
I was right this dummy host actually thinks MASK came out in the states before transformers. Lol. Thanks for calling him out zedhatch. Lol
Jim

spiderpumpkin
01-16-2012, 02:42 PM
I wonder how many phone calls that comic shop has received today about the remaining MOC Star Wars?

Joelicious
01-16-2012, 02:55 PM
Hey guys, don't get too worried! I have been a picker and a storage unit buyer for a long time before storage wars or American pickets came in the scene and when those shows dropped I was worried about the band wagon jumpers and everything going sour. I mean I live in San diego and I would actually see the storage wars guys in person, Dave Hester was at our swap meet selling his shirts on saturday. But those band wagon jumpers lose interest real quick and most don't do anything but annoy the big boys out here. If anything those shows were good for me cause people have a respect for what I do now. Sound funny but it might help toy collecting get some cool points if they don't portray them as OCD toy obsessed geeky weirdos. Show could be a good thing!

~Synder Corps.~
01-16-2012, 02:56 PM
He said he's simplifing things for the general audience? This is a niche' show, 80% of his audience are already toy collectors. I can understand it if he was too excited over finding things, but in a program like this, he needs to be carefull of what he says. Now if he had said "MASK rode the wave of the mid 80's action toys LIKE Transformers and G.I.Joe" then he wouldn't have looked like such a hack. If he's trying to explain or simplify the hobby for new collectors, or "general audiences" he should give actual facts, not "Toy collecting for Morons" handbook explanations.

kndy
01-16-2012, 02:58 PM
You guys can read more comments also on the Star Wars stuff on Rebelscum. TOY HUNTERS Premiers on TRAVEL CHANNEL: SUNDAY NIGHT 11pm - Page 14 (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1076488-14/)

jaakub
01-16-2012, 03:25 PM
Just read his comments over on rebelscum. About the mask/transformer thing he says the producers were going for the north american release. Now, correct me if im wrong but didnt it come out of his mouth. Lol
Jim

dtm1971
01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
G I Joe and Transformers came out about the same time 1982-83 I remember mask coming out in 1984ish the best way to know for a fact look at all the old sears catalog see when they started to shw up in them.star wars,micronauts,showgun warriors,gijoe,transformers,long ranger,battlestar galatica,buck rogers. all late 70's ealry 80's...I'm fourty I remember most all of this. so mask was much later....YO JOE!!!

swafus
01-16-2012, 04:10 PM
OK to be blunt, this comment actually is worse than the one on TV. Transformers came out in the USA in 1984 whereas MASK didn't hit until 1985. In addtion it has been said that MASK was a hybrid of GI Joe and Transformers. I get trying to simplify but at the same time the facts are wrong.

Personally I can see getting a bit excited and screwing up a factoid (I do it all the time) and there is nothing wrong with that, but then trying to change the meaning there, sorry that doesn't hold up. Trying not be a know it all jerk here, but that is how I see it.[/QUOTE]

^^EXACTLY^^ TF were released in the U.S. in 1984. M.a.s.k. was released in 1985 and the transforming vehicle gimmick was inspired by TF. The statement is simply incorrect. I understand simplifying for the masses but this could have just as easily been done by saying "m.a.s.k. is kind of a mix between g.i.joe and TF" instead of presenting false info.

Lody
01-16-2012, 04:14 PM
Someone stated on another forum that Kokomo Toys is on here

Lody
01-16-2012, 04:19 PM
"Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.) "


Umm

How is MASK before TF is TF came out in 1984 and MASK came out in 1985?

Did someone miss second grade math class that day?

swafus
01-16-2012, 04:21 PM
Thank you zedhatch. I just read his reply and almost dropped my ipad (which was the precursor to the apple IIe lol) from laughing so hard. I just find the show staged and crap. Answer me this hollywoodheroes, how can a comic book store owner 3miles from Kenner not know what the value is of star wars figures carded and unpunched 12backs? Give me a break. Lol
Jim

Lol!, I also love that he says with a straight face "I know what it is, but I have no idea how much it;s worth?" Buuuuuullllll-shit! This was obviously scripted and done for theatrics. Unless of course he's the only comic shop owner in the world that has never heard of the internet or ebay. And another thing, I've done plenty of vintage toy buying from both dealers and grannies. The one thing I've never done is scream out "THIS IS WORTH $10,000 DOLLARS!!......I'll give you $5,000 for it!" lol

samantha
01-16-2012, 04:26 PM
Personally I hope a show like this doesn't create treasure hunters who think that all that 90's products are bags of gold. Toys are only valuable to those who value them. (Just my opinion.)

Cobra80
01-16-2012, 04:27 PM
I don't see what's so terrible about the show. It's interesting to see some of the people he meets and places he goes into. Probably only got access because he's doing a show. Its obviously geared toward a general TV audience and not hardcore toy collectors. I mean, he goes and meets with some of the actual toy designers and such. I think it's neat to see the people behind the toys.

+1 same thing I was thinking. The show was a lot of fun and cool to see the Thundercats toys. If you don't like the show don't watch it. Plain and simple.

Cobra80
01-16-2012, 04:28 PM
this guy is nuttier than squirrel turds...its a tough gig to travel the US in hopes of selling a friggin couple of dolls....thundercats proto is cool but this guy needs a kick in the nuts

Wow, you must have a really exciting life as well. That was pure sarcasm.

stknrobert1071
01-16-2012, 04:30 PM
i sent him an email...prior to seeing this thread....and im going to post what i sent him...and if he responds i will post it here also....but i was not to impressed with it...but it was interesting a bit...and nickki....mmmm easy on the eyes lol




hi

Im robert,

Im 40 yrs old and have been collecting toys since 1994 when i found a box of old star wars and gi joe figures in my familys garage that i played with as a kid.. I came across your show by accident..and found it interesting...I have to make a point though....when you were going thru the MASK toys you made a mistake in saying that it was a precursor to transformers that is a mistake as the fact that the transformers debut as a hasbro toyline was in 1984 lasting till 1993 (i beleive) where as MASK's toyline made its debut in 1985.



Are you aware that while your show may be entertaining to watch....your show will make things hard for us part time collectors who unlike you who has a store and access to a lot money...will not be able to afford some of these "cool things" cause people will get the idea that every toy they might have is worth BIG bucks and if its featured on toy hunters...then by gosh its gotta be true.....your show will drive the prices for "so called rare stuff up more then they should be on Ebay and will make going to collector shows fustrating for the same reasons.



I am speaking only for myself with these comments or oppinions however you choose to take them..and not for anyone else who may or may not share my views



thank you


robert lucchesi

Tracker
01-16-2012, 04:31 PM
it was fun to watch

Tracker
01-16-2012, 04:33 PM
Personally I hope a show like this doesn't create treasure hunters who think that all that 90's products are bags of gold. Toys are only valuable to those who value them. (Just my opinion.)

It was bound to happen ....everything is that way..if folks never placed a value on gold it would just be a shinny roc

cobracobra
01-16-2012, 04:36 PM
Met the dude at NY Comic Con he was mad impressed that I knew all the Chuck Norris prototypes he had on display. We ended up buying some jumbo Star Wars figures from him.

Troynos
01-16-2012, 04:37 PM
I think people are worried that this show will lead to a speculator boom like Comics went though in the 90s when everyone and their mother started thinking that comics were worth money and buying 'em all up and going nuts.

Cobra80
01-16-2012, 04:38 PM
I hope it gets good enough numbers to get picked up. I enjoyed it and would like to see an episode on He-Man figures.

Zer0G
01-16-2012, 05:08 PM
I think people are worried that this show will lead to a speculator boom like Comics went though in the 90s when everyone and their mother started thinking that comics were worth money and buying 'em all up and going nuts.

I'm not worried about the toy boom, but man you sparked a memory of good times there with the Comic Boom. I remember this, I actually think it pretty much all started around "A death in the family" and then the whole "X-PLOSION!" I think we had 5 or 6 different X-titles in the 90s each came with a different variant cover, and then the special opening of the comic store for the Superman Dies black bag issue.

But ya know, I was 13 at the time and have the fondest memories! Good Times!

MeLikeJinx
01-16-2012, 05:08 PM
I just find the show staged and crap.
Of course this show is staged and scripted and re-enacted... it's a tv show... not a documentary. LOL.

And to be honest I don't like the money aspect and haggling with the designers either, but they need to create drama somehow, or else there is really no reason why a layperson would stay tuned into the show when they are just flipping through the channels. And without the bargaining/profit aspect to the show there is no way this show even gets off the ground to begin with.

But to me... I don't care about the host, the designers, the other people on the show, or even the format... I only care about the toys. I'll take whatever packaging the show has... as long as I get to see the toys.

And not like I know what I'm talking about or anything... but I imagine making a tv show must be pretty hard... a lot harder than making a post on forum board anyway. LOL.

jaakub
01-16-2012, 05:40 PM
I understand tv shows are scripted just not usually this bad to make it look horribly unwatchable. As for watching it for the toys. That's great and what it should be about. Unfortunately when you have a guy like this go around and lowball former employees you will start to not see prototypes and rare toys anymore. What will happen is private sales to collections that no one will ever see. It happens all the time in the movie prop business.
Jim

zedhatch
01-16-2012, 05:57 PM
Of course this show is staged and scripted and re-enacted... it's a tv show... not a documentary. LOL.


While true, I think the issue really becomes that it presents itself as a documentary (now this is the problem with all of "reality TV" as well).

The point being is that some shows are much, much better at hiding it than this one was. Then again it is geared to our types of minds and we are a bit more scrutinizing than some. I think the mistake is trying to make the show to the lowest common denominator first then to the collectors, I think working off the collectors then building to the LCD works better.

stknrobert1071
01-16-2012, 08:23 PM
well the dude responded to my email....though i might call him insted of vice versa lol





Hi Robert,


Send me your phone number... I want to give you a call.


Jordan Hembrough
President
Hollywood Heroes
310 Steilen Ave, Ridgewood NJ 07450
201-664-5795



-----Original Message-----
From: trekk1071
To: jordan <jordan@hollywoodheroes.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 11:21 am
Subject: your tv show


hi


Im robert,
Im 40 yrs old and have been collecting toys since 1994 when i found a box of old star wars and gi joe figures in my familys garage that i played with as a kid.. I came across your show by accident..and found it interesting...I have to make a point though....when you were going thru the MASK toys you made a mistake in saying that it was a precursor to transformers that is a mistake as the fact that the transformers debut as a hasbro toyline was in 1984 lasting till 1993 (i beleive) where as MASK's toyline made its debut in 1985.

Are you aware that while your show may be entertaining to watch....your show will make things hard for us part time collectors who unlike you who has a store and access to a lot money...will not be able to afford some of these "cool things" cause people will get the idea that every toy they might have is worth BIG bucks and if its featured on toy hunters...then by gosh its gotta be true.....your show will drive the prices for "so called rare stuff up more then they should be on Ebay and will make going to collector shows fustrating for the same reasons.

I am speaking only for myself with these comments or oppinions however you choose to take them..and not for anyone else who may or may not share my views

thank you

robert lucchesi

Steel Brigade
01-16-2012, 08:30 PM
I've been a Toy Collector all my life. That being said I very much enjoyed the show.
I think some of the stuff bought (like the MASK merch) seemed a bit on the low side (& the comment about the precursor to Transformers was laughable), then again the resale prices seemed more reasonable than most Toy Dealers I know. I didn't think that Arctic Batman (even with the green tag) is really worth very much on the aftermarket. But this is just my personal opinion. The "Rocket Fett" & the Thundercats bubble monster were amazing, & I would love to see this turn into a regular series as it was very easy to get into, & like American Pickers I could see myself looking forward to this show every week. =-) Maybe even getting mad at some of the deals Jordan gets. lol

sudelaya
01-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan

Looking forward to more episodes.

Joelicious
01-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Everyone thinks toys are big money now it's not any one things fault. You could say all you hardcore guys who know so much about little things like variant colors of weapons and such are driving collecting to be so expensive because of circulation of that knowledge prices go up. Also times are rough so people are trying to hustle and letting go of your toys for 20 bucks just is not worth it to some folks. Also the demand is there for this stuff among non hardcore toy enthusiasts. I sell toys better to people who are not so called "collectors". Some people into hobbies and toys really are douchey and won't pay for things because they have jaded price outlooks. Prices are highly subject to whatever the buyer is willing to pay, and most collectors want their collectibles for a song but still be able to brag about the value on eBay. Fact is I mostly sell on craigslist and flea markets, casual people show up, buy toys with a smile on the face and talk about memories. Hardcore guys ask me how much, nod, check iPhone eBay app and start haggling for their own slice of the pie OR they walk away mad it's not in their come up range. I have a few collector people I contact regularly as clients, I expect them to hit me with the rock bottom eBay completed listing price everytime, they do not dissapoint. I am not Mad at this I just think we have a strange inverse relationship with this stuff sometimes. It's 10 times worse in the coin and precious metals though, nothing but charlatans.

Lody
01-16-2012, 10:11 PM
His bargaining process is nothing short of insulting. Not real sure why these people that sold the toys didn't feel like they could sell the toys themselves.

That Switchblade MISB was 150-200 easy.

Who pays $17,000 for a toy with a credit card? Something tells me that that guy didn't have that kind of money.

It wassn't until I saw the logo that I realized that Hollywood Heroes is these guys here:

Hot Toys, Sideshow Collectibles, modern and vintage toys and more at Hollywood Heroes! (http://www.hollywoodheroes.com/vintage-prototypes-c-425_426_429.html)
and here:

http://stores.ebay.com/Hollywood-Heroes-Auction-Galleries

Who I have been following for quite some time.

Lody
01-16-2012, 10:13 PM
I think people are worried that this show will lead to a speculator boom like Comics went though in the 90s when everyone and their mother started thinking that comics were worth money and buying 'em all up and going nuts.

I can see it now

This is the RARE Earthworm Jim figure...you gotta have it!

Headman
01-16-2012, 10:53 PM
Hey guys-

I appreciate your comments, and will take them to heart. I just wanted to address a couple of things and maybe clear some things up.

The Term "Wow Factor" is one that is commonly used in the hobby. It's not just on the show Storage Wars. There's a reason why they say it... because it' s a term that people say. It can pertain to anything.. even guests at a show i.e. " He has Johnny Depp as a guest for signing... man, that's a wow factor."

Also, with the comment about being disrespectful. I can assure you this was not my intention. The people on the show have remained my friends, and we share a common sense of humor. I see now that my joking with them, may have come across as sacarasm.

I have remained close friends with everyone on the show, and even spoke to each person today. They all had viewings of the show before it aired, and I made sure they were 100% comfortable with how they looked, and how the scene was cut.

Finally, we said MASK was a precursor to Transformers, because we were speaking specifically about the relation of Kenner/Hasbro. MASK was released to the American market before Hasbro released Transformers. ( Please understand, this was done to simplify the program for the mass audience.)

I take all your comments to heart, and will do my very best to make sure if this goes to series any mistakes or faults from the pilot, will be rectified.

Thanks so much for your support and watching,
I do have a big GI Joe find for the series... just hoping we make it there.

All my best,
Jordan


Can you help drive up the price of Headman action figures? I'm looking to retire off of them. Not that I actually have a job or do anything to retire from, but I'd like to make a lot of money by selling my 13,500 copies of this figure. Thank you.


Seriously, Can't wait for the Headman episode.

draconianguard
01-16-2012, 11:38 PM
Who pays $17,000 for a toy with a credit card? Something tells me that that guy didn't have that kind of money.



How else would he to pay for it? I have yet to hear of a collector carrying a briefcase with $17,000 in cash with him to a con...in New York City no less.

Ixz72
01-17-2012, 12:41 AM
First of all, thank you to the Mods for consolidating all 5-6 of the threads about this show.

Thank you zedhatch. I just read his reply and almost dropped my ipad (which was the precursor to the apple IIe lol) from laughing so hard. I just find the show staged and crap. Answer me this hollywoodheroes, how can a comic book store owner 3miles from Kenner not know what the value is of star wars figures carded and unpunched 12backs? Give me a break. Lol
Jim

Agreed. Even my girlfriend who knows nothing about collectibles said about the Comic Shop Guy's ignorance..."Why doesn't he Google it?".

Anybody who goes to a collectible store, reads magazines like (ironically) Tomart's, and the now gone but not forgotten Toy Fare at least have read or heard about the "elusive" and extremely rare Rocket Boba Fett as the Holy Grail of every Star Wars collector. And this guy who owns a comic shop 3 miles from Kenner and had Kenner people in his shop regularly had no idea what it's worth? Are you freaking kidding me?

Maybe it was the way the show was edited, scripted or whatever else can be blamed on the production crew. But, Are you freaking kidding me?

MeLikeJinx
01-17-2012, 03:40 AM
Agreed. Even my girlfriend who knows nothing about collectibles said about the Comic Shop Guy's ignorance..."Why doesn't he Google it?"
Who would watch a show about middle aged dudes who just look up stuff on the internet?

IMO you are not supposed to take this show seriously... it is like pro wrestling... you just go with the flow and enjoy it for what it is worth.

Ixz72
01-17-2012, 07:41 AM
Who would watch a show about middle aged dudes who just look up stuff on the internet?


You are taking that out of context. What is meant by that, is research information about what you are trying to sell. Not "these guys should just sit in front of the computer and they should make a show about them.

Troynos
01-17-2012, 08:33 AM
well the dude responded to my email....though i might call him insted of vice versa lol


Not cool posting his phone number and address.

Zer0G
01-17-2012, 08:55 AM
Oh! No worries Troy and gang, its posted on his website.

Hollywood Heroes - movie memorabilia, vintage collectibles, film props, toys and more! (http://www.hollywoodheroes.com/contact_us.php?osCsid=ch37hkvhclr2sb88q90fl3ngb3)

sharky
01-17-2012, 08:55 AM
Personally I hope a show like this doesn't create treasure hunters who think that all that 90's products are bags of gold. Toys are only valuable to those who value them. (Just my opinion.)
Maybe that's a good thing. Then people will be able to unload all that 90's crap to some suckers thinking it will be worth a lot. LOL! :D

Unclassified
01-17-2012, 09:10 AM
man, wtf did i miss?? see what happens when i pass threads that don't interest me??

hollywoodheroes, can i have your autogragh?


didn't someone awhile back mention meeting a dude at nycc and he had a shop in jersey and some shit? this sounds like that dude they were talking about.. i remember a post or a thread, i think it was a post inside a thread, though.. i just remember a shop in jersey and a dude at nycc.

so was the show any good, guys? when does it air again?

Ixz72
01-17-2012, 10:25 AM
Maybe that's a good thing. Then people will be able to unload all that 90's crap to some suckers thinking it will be worth a lot. LOL! :D


Funny you should mention this. I was watching an episode of Pawn Stars I had DVR'd and some guy was selling a Buzz Aldrin GI joe and I think he wanted something like $200 for it. He ended up selling it for $25.

zedhatch
01-17-2012, 10:35 AM
He got that much out of it, he should be proud, I think the thing is worth about $5

Jmacq1
01-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Personally I hope a show like this doesn't create treasure hunters who think that all that 90's products are bags of gold. Toys are only valuable to those who value them. (Just my opinion.)

I'm thinking you don't have anything to worry about. The people who are complaining that this show is somehow going to create another "speculator boom" are being a bit premature. For starters, the prices on many of the items that were highlighted on the show seemed extremely reasonable, if not outright lowballing a lot of them. Nobody was going to walk away from this show thinking they were going to get rich off of toys in their attic unless they happen to have worked at Kenner in the 80's and have rare prototypes. That's pretty much the "lesson" of this first episode.

Even the Rocket-Firing Boba Fett seemed like a lowball estimate when he said 10K. The 20K asking price at the con was more realistic (to my mind)...and yes, paying with a credit card is the most likely option. That, and I'm pretty sure that the guy that bought the rocket-firing Fett isn't just some dude off the street.

But yes, I'm going to call BS on the "I don't have any idea what this is worth" from the comic shop owner that just happened to have a treasure trove of vintage Star Wars figures in the back of his shop. He had no idea what it was worth, but remembered exactly what he paid for it 20-someodd years ago? Come on...give the audience a little more credit.

stknrobert1071
01-17-2012, 12:43 PM
i just got off the phone with the host of toy hunters as he asked if he could talk to me in regards to my email to him ..we talked for 15 or 20 minutes...and he came across as a cool dude...he explained some things and put some things in to perspective...and he said some of the stuff was edited out that could have explained more....but he said that he welcomes ideas and other perspectives...and listened to my concerns and seemed really sincere about doing this hobby right....

im willing to give him and his show a chance if its picked up....he said he has a something for us GI JOE fans ....

he said to contact him anytime....and was really welcoming of my oppinion...

Lody
01-17-2012, 01:15 PM
Couple of things that bug me are the way he goes about his "hunting"

He asked this guy about the Mad Bubbler just "wondering" if he had one. You're not going to travel all that way for nothing so I really didn't care for the whole attitude that he has no idea what these people may have. Not knowing when this episode was shot, but we have known about the Mad Bubbler being in existence for well over a year now so to come off like he has never seen it or knew this guy had was pretty hard to swallow.

I don't believe for a second that the Boba Fett figure was sitting in the back for the last 25 years and that he had no idea what it was or what it was worth. On top of that, if it's worth that much, why not sell it yourself and keep all the profits?

I also have a real hard time believing that the dude with all the tattoos was able to drop that kinda coin down at Comic Con. Perhaps I am being a little too judgmental based on his appearance, but again-not buying it. I make 6 figures a year and even I don't have a credit card with that kind of credit limit on it.

He has a lot to tweak and after seeing what I have already seen regarding GI Joe, there will be very little that he could present that would knock my socks off.

hey GYRE!

Question for YOU!

What would it take from this guy from the GI Joe verse to make you say wow?

Zarana
01-17-2012, 01:20 PM
I don't believe for a second that the Boba Fett figure was sitting in the back for the last 25 years and that he had no idea what it was or what it was worth. On top of that, if it's worth that much, why not sell it yourself and keep all the profits?

I also have a real hard time believing that the dude with all the tattoos was able to drop that kinda coin down at Comic Con. Perhaps I am being a little too judgmental based on his appearance, but again-not buying it. I make 6 figures a year and even I don't have a credit card with that kind of credit limit on it.




A lot of times smaller, or medium size businesses use a middleman to sell an item, rather than having to take it to a completely different market to move it.


Also he mentioned it on Rebel Scum, but the Tattoo man owns the Tap Out Clothing line.

zedhatch
01-17-2012, 01:35 PM
Also he mentioned it on Rebel Scum, but the Tattoo man owns the Tap Out Clothing line.

Just for more context, Tap out pulled down about 200 million in 2009, so he indeed would have had that kind of scratch. And yes it was indeed him.

Jmacq1
01-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Couple of things that bug me are the way he goes about his "hunting"

He asked this guy about the Mad Bubbler just "wondering" if he had one. You're not going to travel all that way for nothing so I really didn't care for the whole attitude that he has no idea what these people may have. Not knowing when this episode was shot, but we have known about the Mad Bubbler being in existence for well over a year now so to come off like he has never seen it or knew this guy had was pretty hard to swallow.

Yeah, some of the stuff definitely was heavily staged/edited for television.

I don't believe for a second that the Boba Fett figure was sitting in the back for the last 25 years and that he had no idea what it was or what it was worth. On top of that, if it's worth that much, why not sell it yourself and keep all the profits?

Maybe he's tried and there just hasn't been a buyer in Cincinnati, and he doesn't want to pay the massive ebay fees such a transaction would entail.

I also have a real hard time believing that the dude with all the tattoos was able to drop that kinda coin down at Comic Con. Perhaps I am being a little too judgmental based on his appearance, but again-not buying it. I make 6 figures a year and even I don't have a credit card with that kind of credit limit on it.

Your salary and your credit rating are two separate things. I make 5 figures a year and have a card with a limit almost that high. I've never gotten even close to using that much of it, but it's there. My parents had "no limit" credit cards well before they ever started making 6 figures a year. Still...see Zarana's note below.


Also he mentioned it on Rebel Scum, but the Tattoo man owns the Tap Out Clothing line.

I figured it had to be something. My guess was that he was some musician that I just wasn't familiar with, but either way I figured the guy had to have big bucks.

On a side note...the guy dressed as a Mandalorian and his friend with the really unsettling giggle were not doing any favors for representing the toy-collecting crowd....

Troynos
01-17-2012, 01:43 PM
I haven't seen the show and I find it hard to believe the guy didn't know the value of the Fett, but I'm leaning towards believing it.

I can't think of any self-respecting comic book (or toy shop) owner that would let themselves appear as less then knowledgable on national tv.

Jmacq1
01-17-2012, 01:48 PM
I haven't seen the show and I find it hard to believe the guy didn't know the value of the Fett, but I'm leaning towards believing it.

I can't think of any self-respecting comic book (or toy shop) owner that would let themselves appear as less then knowledgable on national tv.

You'd be surprised. If you think about it, it's a canny idea. Now his store will get flooded with people thinking they can rip him off, even beyond the free publicity just from having had his store featured on the show.

I will grant there is a small chance that he might be more focused on comics and baseball cards or whatnot and never really paid much attention to toys. Those SW figs were tucked away in a box in the back rather than being displayed, so possibly his store doesn't deal with toys too much. However, that logic doesn't hold up because if he doesn't deal with toys, there's little reason a "Toy Hunter" would go there in the first place.

To the guy's credit, he did know that Star Wars figures were potentially valuable (He'd supposedly kept them for 20 years, after all). Just not the specific numbers to go along with that.

On a side-note for one of the other guys: I wouldn't have given up Slingshot either. That was an awesome toy.

zedhatch
01-17-2012, 02:01 PM
I also have a real hard time believing that the dude with all the tattoos was able to drop that kinda coin down at Comic Con. Perhaps I am being a little too judgmental based on his appearance, but again-not buying it. I make 6 figures a year and even I don't have a credit card with that kind of credit limit on it.


I just spotted that, according to the reports his business pulls down 9 figures (200 mil), no telling how much of that went to him, but I bet he makes plenty.


I can't think of any self-respecting comic book (or toy shop) owner that would let themselves appear as less then knowledgable on national tv.

Well the old adage is there is no such thing as bad press, the exposure the guy got out of this probably more than covered any shame. I mean they mentioned it was the oldest comic shop in Cincy and I bet anyone near there probably either has checked them out or is thinking about it if they haven't already.

Troynos
01-17-2012, 02:01 PM
You'd be surprised. If you think about it, it's a canny idea. Now his store will get flooded with people thinking they can rip him off, even beyond the free publicity just from having had his store featured on the show.


True.

Lody
01-17-2012, 02:01 PM
A lot of times smaller, or medium size businesses use a middleman to sell an item, rather than having to take it to a completely different market to move it.


Also he mentioned it on Rebel Scum, but the Tattoo man owns the Tap Out Clothing line.

I thought he looked familiar.

That makes sense.

Lody
01-17-2012, 02:03 PM
On a side note...the guy dressed as a Mandalorian and his friend with the really unsettling giggle were not doing any favors for representing the toy-collecting crowd....

His jumping up and down while giggling really made me cringe. He had a total nerdgasm.

Way to represent bro, way to represent.

Ixz72
01-17-2012, 02:04 PM
On a side note...the guy dressed as a Mandalorian and his friend with the really unsettling giggle were not doing any favors for representing the toy-collecting crowd....

Agreed!!! Those guys are poster boys for the stereo typical toy collector as seen by non-collectors.

I haven't seen the show and I find it hard to believe the guy didn't know the value of the Fett, but I'm leaning towards believing it.

I can't think of any self-respecting comic book (or toy shop) owner that would let themselves appear as less then knowledgable on national tv.

I agree. With information more easily accessible, I question this guy's motive or was he just seriously that ignorant. Since they emphasized so much about Kenner being 3 miles from the guy's shop you would think he would have connections to tell him how much those things were worth and like I mentioned in my earlier post, "Google it".

sharky
01-17-2012, 02:15 PM
I thought he looked familiar.

That makes sense.
I do wonder if some editing took place to make it seem like he came in at the last minute to buy it. Or perhaps the buyer heard about the Bob Fett and waited until the last moment to buy it in hopes of getting a better deal. I know I like to hit the dealer room as late as possible on Sunday afternoon.

Jmacq1
01-17-2012, 02:47 PM
Agreed!!! Those guys are poster boys for the stereo typical toy collector as seen by non-collectors.

Honestly, the Mando-cosplay guy wasn't that bad. It was the nerdgasming friend that was just...ugh.

I agree. With information more easily accessible, I question this guy's motive or was he just seriously that ignorant. Since they emphasized so much about Kenner being 3 miles from the guy's shop you would think he would have connections to tell him how much those things were worth and like I mentioned in my earlier post, "Google it".

Yeah...the guy remembers trading $20 worth of baseball cards (or was it $10) for the most coveted kenner prototype in history 20 years ago (and mentioned that he got all kinds of stuff from the Kenner dudes back when they were in business), but doesn't know what it's worth? I could buy him having answered with "I'm not exactly sure, but I bet/know it's a lot." As opposed to "I have no idea whatsoever."

Roshan
01-17-2012, 04:53 PM
I wonder if the show motivated this guy to put this thing up for sale.

BOBA FETT PROTOTYPE ROCKET FIRING 1979 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOBA-FETT-PROTOTYPE-ROCKET-FIRING-1979-/330672974182?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfda52966)

Jmacq1
01-17-2012, 05:27 PM
I wonder if the show motivated this guy to put this thing up for sale.

BOBA FETT PROTOTYPE ROCKET FIRING 1979 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOBA-FETT-PROTOTYPE-ROCKET-FIRING-1979-/330672974182?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfda52966)

Quite possibly. Particularly given the "Buy It Now" price being equal to what was asked at the convention.

245am
01-17-2012, 07:23 PM
I wish the show could be more centered around featuring people, their collections, and just collecting in general rather than focusing on the buying and selling for profit. I suppose that doesn't sell a show to the broadcasters though. I guess they have to show some kind of story or achievement as in him trying to make $20,000 rather than simply collecting for the fun of having the toys.

Honestly I'd be more interested in your idea than some half wit goofball going around. ... But if they would put out a show that actually portrays Collectors I think it would be recieved generally well the host could ask a few questions about some of the harder items the collector finally obtained, show off the shelves or boxes, and MAYBE get offered something for a piece or 2

You two (and others more interested in a collector collecting might be interested in this (it was discussed on here a couple of years ago when it was put up)

Collectible Spectacle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCe-p8lCbPk)


Hey guys, don't get too worried! I have been a picker and a storage unit buyer for a long time before storage wars or American pickets came in the scene and when those shows dropped I was worried about the band wagon jumpers and everything going sour. ... But those band wagon jumpers lose interest real quick and most don't do anything but annoy the big boys out here. If anything those shows were good for me cause people have a respect for what I do now. Sound funny but it might help toy collecting get some cool points if they don't portray them as OCD toy obsessed geeky weirdos. Show could be a good thing!

Thank you so much for your insight & personal experience here... I understand why some are concerned with Toy Hunters (should it catch on & popularize the hobby) would drive aftermarket prices up, but that opinion seems based on fear more than any sort of evidence.

i just got off the phone with the host of toy hunters as he asked if he could talk to me in regards to my email to him ..we talked for 15 or 20 minutes...and he came across as a cool dude...he explained some things and put some things in to perspective...and he said some of the stuff was edited out that could have explained more....but he said that he welcomes ideas and other perspectives...and listened to my concerns and seemed really sincere about doing this hobby right....

im willing to give him and his show a chance if its picked up....he said he has a something for us GI JOE fans ....

he said to contact him anytime....and was really welcoming of my oppinion...

I love this post because your original post was (IMHO) pretty negative; challenging him to defend his business, etc. You're certainly entitled to that opinion/interpretation of things, but I just want to highlight this post because it seems to show (along with others posting their experiences with him at shows) that Jordan's a nice guy, who by all accounts also is fair in his prices. I see why some might get bugged by his excitability and goofiness but "nice" and "fair" are better descriptions than many dealers I've talked to.


And for those wanting to know more about the buyer of the SW Boba Fett prototype, it's definitely Dan Caldwell, owner of Tapout Clothing (which he was wearing in the show). You can see an interview with him from the day he appeared on the show at NYCC, talking about his toy collecting here...

The Fight Nerd (http://www.thefightnerd.com/dan-punkass-caldwell-from-the-tapout-crew-at-nycc-2011/)

WildWill
01-18-2012, 06:49 PM
I watched the show last night - overall I enjoyed it, but as with most of you I have nits to pick.

1. The Host of the show was a bit too...well...Hollywood. Tone it down a bit.
2. Don't make Toy Collectors look stupid, that's your audience. You're not going to sell the show to non-collectors if we all look like morons.
3. The selection of toys featured was...odd, to say the least. Sure the vintage Star Wars stuff was nice, but besides the Wicket card sample, we've seen it all before, EVEN the Boba Fett. IN FACT, that BF figure has been counterfeited several times already, and reproed, which makes me question it's provenance somewhat. However, the proximity to Kenner and the expert coming in makes me think that perhaps it was real. I sure hope so.
4. CORGI BATMOBILES? WTF? Those things aren't even 5 years old, nor are they "rare" in the slightest. Heck some of them are still on the shelf at my local TRU.
5. LOW-BALLED the prices. Sure dealers gotta make money, but $50 for a MIP Oscar Goldman? Recent eBay sales on that puppy have gone for four times that. And on some of the pieces it was if the items weren't in the hosts' ballpark in terms of knowledge.
6. Of course the MASK/Transformers comment was obnoxious. Regardless of the exact date that TF hit American Shores, they were around because of Japanese Imports. Even at age 12-14 I knew that the TFs were based on Japanese lines, and that most of the figures were out and out repaints or remolds from Japan.
7. NO JOES. NONE. Not even vintage. Seemed like it was out of place.
8. Nothing older than the 70's. Toys existed before then.


Things I did like:
1. Artic Batman sample - that was awesome. THAT and the behind the scenes stuff on the Thundercats was fantastic. MORE of that.
2. The personal attachment to some of the toys was nice.
3. TOY PEOPLE NOT LOOKING STUPID. Everyone BEFORE the convention was fantastic in that they knew they had something, but weren't sure what they had. Now I don't necessarily believe it in this day and age of instant price checks on the Internet, but some of the stuff that was available seemed mind boggling good.

I hope it DOES go to series because I'd like to see them improve.

Oh and a missed opportunity at the TOMART guys' house - TOMART had issues in the past on unproduced toys from Super Powers, Alien, and others - I wonder where THOSE toys went.

cearex
01-19-2012, 08:26 AM
is there going to be a re-airing? i can find no info on that anywhere?

Ixz72
01-19-2012, 01:02 PM
Is there another episode coming?

draconianguard
01-25-2012, 04:38 PM
TRAVEL CHANNEL is airing TOY HUNTERS again this Sunday! Jan 29th, at 6pm.

Hollywoodheroes
01-25-2012, 07:25 PM
Hey guys-

Yes, its true... we are airing again this Sunday at 6pm.

Now, I just want to say to everyone... I have read through all the comments here. Some have been pretty harsh, some are more than fair.

I promise you, this pilot is just a "step in the direction" we are going. Please remember, we are still finding our way... and getting our direction.

Through comments like yours, and one this board... I can better establish what the market wants. Thank you so much.

I also wanted to point out, as was already indicated, I was a bit excited from time to time. It's because I had a director and producer behind me yelling for me to "emote more!" and "Get excited."

I'm a collector/fanboy just like everyone else. I love these toys... just give me a chance to make a show that we can all be proud of.

Please remember, most things are totally out of my hands, and up to the network (i.e. the money aspect of the picks).. but as long as I am still looped in with all the collectors I feel that I can bring a quality product to market.

Robert from these boards has my personal number, and I have told him he can call me if he wants from time to time and let me know any concerns anyone has.

I hope you all watch the show again... we're trying to pull in high ratings like we did the first time around. Then.. hopefully series.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks guys,
Jordan Hembrough

Hollywoodheroes
01-25-2012, 07:34 PM
Hey guys one last thing.. I just wanted to touch on two subjects.:

Mad Bubbler: People have stated that I knew it was there, i.e. staged.. etc. Some folks have commented that I would not have flown all the way to Miami if I did not already know that the client had a Bubbler. Well, you are correct.

I flew to Miami for the other two rare prototypes on the show: Red Eye and the Luntaker. Both, were never released and hand made. The fact that a Mad Bubbler was there was just icing on the cake.

Boba Fett: This was editing guys. The guy said he didnt know what it was worth.. and then I asked him. He said.. " I have heard around $12K at the height in the 90's."

That line got cut... for dramatic purposes.

So, please.. cut me some slack. In the future, I'm going to do my best to make sure everything gets into the final cut.

All my best-
Jordan

sharky
01-25-2012, 07:36 PM
You two (and others more interested in a collector collecting might be interested in this (it was discussed on here a couple of years ago when it was put up)

Collectible Spectacle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCe-p8lCbPk)

Yes, I saw those when they first came out. I like the one about airdevon as well.

BCDX97
01-31-2012, 01:25 AM
I watched this today. I really liked seeing all the old toys, especially the stuff the designers had at their houses. More info on them and how lines are created, designed, etc would have been really cool.

What I didn't like was how much the show was about money money money. But I have never really had any interest in buying rare expensive toys in the first place.

CG76
01-31-2012, 08:12 AM
Shoots I missed it.

Jmacq1
01-31-2012, 10:17 AM
I watched this today. I really liked seeing all the old toys, especially the stuff the designers had at their houses. More info on them and how lines are created, designed, etc would have been really cool.

What I didn't like was how much the show was about money money money. But I have never really had any interest in buying rare expensive toys in the first place.

Gotta remember though, in order for this show to be successful they're going to need more than just adult toy collectors watching it, and "money money money" is what brings those folks in.

WildWill
02-15-2012, 11:01 PM
It has been picked up as a series:


Travel Channel has given the greenlight for "Toy Hunters," showcasing toy collector Jordan Hembrough, as he searches throughout the country for the rarest toys and turns them into big profit.

"Toy Hunters" will be a weekly half-hour series which follows toy and collectibles dealer Jordan Hembrough as he scours the country for hidden treasures to sell to his buyers around the world. Originally a special that aired on the Network last month, this original series centers on Hembrough and his quest to claim the status as the ultimate toy collector. In each of the twelve episodes, Hembrough travels from city to city strategically maneuvering around reluctant sellers, abating budgets and avoiding unforeseen roadblocks. For this toy hunter, poking through cramped attics and rummaging around dirty garages to score rare vintage items is all in a day's work. "Toy Hunters" will be produced by Sharp Entertainment with Travel Channel's Stone Roberts as executive producer.

Cobra80
02-18-2012, 01:30 AM
Awesome, Congrats Jordan!! Keep up the good job, and lets see some more cool vintage 80s and 90s action figures!!

MeLikeJinx
02-19-2012, 12:14 AM
Cool. I wanna see some Joe toy eps... and also some 90's toys eps.

Jmacq1
02-21-2012, 11:27 PM
It's replaying right now, and interestingly enough, they seem to have recut the comic-shop guy so he no longer seems to be ignorant of what he has. More accurately the "I have no idea" line in regards to the rocket-firing Boba Fett was cut out, unless I missed something.

dcooper
02-22-2012, 06:27 AM
He said in a earlier post, he found some Joes.

JohnnyAngel77
02-24-2012, 08:27 PM
Was wondering if it got picked up or not. I'm looking forward to more episodes. Aside from the few nitpicks that I agree with most people on, I enjoyed it. I like seeing vintage toys in any format.

jogunwarrior
03-02-2012, 12:52 PM
I tried to watch the first episode of the show, and made it about 10 minutes in. I shut it off when he called MASK a precursor to Transformers.
I'm all for a show that highlights the toy collecting community, but lets focus on someone that knows a thing or two about toys.

I think I'll stick to Storage Wars and American Pickers, which I can enjoy without my blood pressure skyrocketing.

sudelaya
04-12-2012, 09:19 AM
This show was approved by the Travel Channel for a season. They are out filming now. You can upload collections and vote for us while you are there! Item Detail (http://my.travelchannel.com/toy-hunters/Rate-My-Toy/Inside-a-Vintage-Toy-Store/detail.esi?oid=28449727)

miles mayhem
12-30-2012, 11:05 PM
maybe someone will buy my BOULDER HILL PLAYSET now.

Well, since I can only sell it for 5.00, I'll give you 2.50 and a handshake. Deal?