View Full Version : Why Channing Tatum was not "Duke"
blayze5150
12-13-2011, 03:41 AM
One of the most hated parts of the GI Joe live action film was the casting of Duke. Channing Tatum is an actor who gets alot of parts and is adored by alot of fans. Now, it appears the character may be killed off in the sequel. Duke is a major character. Why would his portrayal anger fans so much. To explain this, here's a look at the ultimate source of the GI Joe canon: the original Duke filecard!
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy214/blayze5150/100_7046.jpg
1- Duke enlisted in 1967. Let's say he was 18. In 1983, when the character was introduced, he would have been 34 years old. Channing Tatum is only 31 now, which would make him 28 or 29 when ROC was filmed. His youth takes away from the character.
2- Duke was scripted poorly. He a) had poor comic dialog, b) was scripted to disrespect General Hawk and disobey his orders, and c) stooped to blackmailing himself on the GI Joe team. Not the Duke we know and love.
3- He was directed poorly. Most of the actors shots should have been given another take at least. Channing Tatum was wooden, but I've seen him act better. The director wanted this film in the can, good or bad.
4- He did not look like duke. No blonde flat top. How many actors have those? Aren't there hairstylists on set?
Just my take on the Tatum situation. I don't want Duke to die: he's one of my favorite characters. Channing Tatum Duke, however, can get hit by a bus for all I care!
seyms
12-13-2011, 03:48 AM
Really? Isn't that filecard for the ARAH Duke? I thought that since Tatum was cast as Duke, he WAS Duke as far as the movie-verse was concerned...
killerloon
12-13-2011, 03:54 AM
If they went off the ARAH Bios. That would put Duke in his 60s and more than likely behind a desk not in the Field. In fact that would most of The Joes 60+ as most were NAM vets. But I guess if you want GI JOE and Cobra to be fighting over control of the nursing home than by all means...
That and Duke always bothered be as a kid. He had the creepy child molestor grin. Still kinda creepy. Im going to hide under my bed now.
Steelgrave
12-13-2011, 04:43 AM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
thairestauranteur
12-13-2011, 04:43 AM
All you have to do to understand why Tatum was lousy as Duke is to watch the opening scene with him taking the Borg nanoprobes from MARS.
'Atenshun, fall out boys'. He actually says this in the most dead pan, uncharismatic way. No pride or energy whatsoever. Tatum probably never even watched the first 10 minutes of the MASS Device. You will learn all you need to know about Duke and his macho persona in those first 10 minutes.
"Didn't you read my green sheet? 'Man of action!'"
thairestauranteur
12-13-2011, 04:44 AM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy. He looks just like the Sideshow figure.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
^^^^^^ Hoo Ya!
thairestauranteur
12-13-2011, 04:48 AM
I always thought the guy who played George Kirk in the Star Trek revival would have been a great Duke if all they wanted was a youthful revision of the character.
Chris Hemsworth is the man! Except Marvel got to him first and now he is Thor.
Ho Hum. Its all a joke. Mother forgive me.
Crimson Rage
12-13-2011, 04:51 AM
Yes, Duke should have been cast as a 60 year old to fall in line with the original continuity to appease those intolerent to any change whatsoever... Actually, the whole cast should have been.
MeLikeJinx
12-13-2011, 04:58 AM
I didn't like the way he casually said "ten hut" in ROC.
Steelgrave
12-13-2011, 05:03 AM
Yes, Duke should have been cast as a 60 year old to fall in line with the original continuity to appease those intolerent to any change whatsoever... Actually, the whole cast should have been.
We went over this in another thread a while back. Everybody agreed that Duke should have been older. Maybe not 60 years old but older than Channing.
W.O. leroy
12-13-2011, 05:24 AM
All you have to do to understand why Tatum was lousy as Duke is to watch the opening scene with him taking the Borg nanoprobes from MARS.
'Atenshun, fall out boys'. He actually says this in the most dead pan, uncharismatic way. No pride or energy whatsoever.
He wasn't dead pan he was down right girly, it was that high pitched dogs would have heard it a mile away.
seyms
12-13-2011, 05:36 AM
Surely there's more than one way to say "ten-hut". Maybe the Roc version just wasn't written as the grizzly, military buffoon stereotype like in Arah.
Heck, maybe he should've said "pizza hut", or "jabba-hut", add in some pop-culture reference and annoy people even more.
fireflyguy
12-13-2011, 07:48 AM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
Yeah, I agree that he would've made a better Duke than Channing.
sparks007
12-13-2011, 07:53 AM
I just don't think he got into character. He came across like he was more into pretending he had street cred then he did a career miliary man. I don't completely blame tatum. If Sommers had been a better director he would have nipped that watered down hip hop influenced accent Tatum had in the bud. I'm surprised Tatum didn't refer to the accelerator suit as dope or tight which would not have been in character with Duke, maybe Cool Breeze ,but not Duke. I still don't want them to kill Duke just have him portrayed better.
dantedmc37
12-13-2011, 07:54 AM
I don't know, everybody seems to hate Duke and they also hate Channing. Should be a perfect match...
foxtrot27
12-13-2011, 08:07 AM
Yes, Duke should have been cast as a 60 year old to fall in line with the original continuity to appease those intolerent to any change whatsoever... Actually, the whole cast should have been.
Please don't use intolerant and change in the same sentence; it reminds me of a nightmare I had called "hope and change".
starbuck
12-13-2011, 08:42 AM
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WVMojo
12-13-2011, 09:00 AM
Yes, Duke should have been cast as a 60 year old to fall in line with the original continuity to appease those intolerent to any change whatsoever... Actually, the whole cast should have been.
It could have been like watching Space Cowboys. Bunch of 60 year old Vietnam vets, having to get up in the middle of the night to take a piss, poor heart conditions, can't fit in their uniforms...
That's the GI Joe I want...not this new fangled stuff.
WVMojo
12-13-2011, 09:01 AM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
And the guy can act...Ike Clanton in Tombstone and Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals.
sharky
12-13-2011, 09:10 AM
You don't need an overly complicated explanation. Just look at him.
VideoViper
12-13-2011, 09:14 AM
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You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
Not so much Duke imo, a bit old to start off the 'verse. A grizzly, battle hardened, ass whoopin' lookin' dude for sure though. Always thought he'd be the perfect Hawk.
Loose Cannon
12-13-2011, 10:00 AM
All you have to do to understand why Tatum was lousy as Duke is to watch the opening scene with him taking the Borg nanoprobes from MARS.
'Atenshun, fall out boys'. He actually says this in the most dead pan, uncharismatic way. No pride or energy whatsoever. '"
This pretty much killed it for me as well. Not a shred of the military in the way he carried the character.
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
He would have been awesome. Of course the story wouldn't work the way it was written for the movie. Old dude banging some young hottie? He'd make a great Nick Fury though!
I just don't think he got into character. He came across like he was more into pretending he had street cred then he did a career miliary man. I don't completely blame tatum. If Sommers had been a better director he would have nipped that watered down hip hop influenced accent Tatum had in the bud. I'm surprised Tatum didn't refer to the accelerator suit as dope or tight which would not have been in character with Duke, maybe Cool Breeze ,but not Duke. I still don't want them to kill Duke just have him portrayed better.
Tatum should have been cast as another character. Like Steeler! Then you could have the World Without end tie-in with the Baroness romance, plus Steeler was an officer where Duke had never been before.
Not so much Duke imo, a bit old to start off the 'verse. A grizzly, battle hardened, ass whoopin' lookin' dude for sure though. Always thought he'd be the perfect Hawk.
That would have worked. He may have made a better Joe Colton than Bruce Willis, but we'll see.
ljacone
12-13-2011, 10:13 AM
Personally, I thought Tatum was very good as Duke. He played the role of a professional soldier very well.
I don't think he was disrespectful to General Hawk, he called him "Sir" and answered him as a subordinate. But he did not recognize Hawk's authority to issue an order to him as Hawk was not part of his Chain of Command at the time. I have no problem with that, especially considering the situation where his team had just been ambushed by forces not wearing any county's uniform.
I am glad Tatum is back as Duke, even in a diminished capacity.
CrocPotMaster
12-13-2011, 10:31 AM
Charming Potato shows his ability (lack thereof) when he's supposed to be emotional in his conversations near the end of RoC with CC and Baroness. It comes off as really wooden, perhaps the way an armoire would play the character. I loves me some Tater, don't get me wrong, but he's not headed for an Oscar. Ever. I do hope he keeps working though, and I don't mind him as Duke. Duke was the kind of wooden stoic foil to everybody else's batshit nuts approach.
krooklyn
12-13-2011, 10:46 AM
One of the most hated parts of the GI Joe live action film was the casting of Duke. Channing Tatum is an actor who gets alot of parts and is adored by alot of fans. Now, it appears the character may be killed off in the sequel. Duke is a major character. Why would his portrayal anger fans so much. To explain this, here's a look at the ultimate source of the GI Joe canon: the original Duke filecard!
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy214/blayze5150/100_7046.jpg
1- Duke enlisted in 1967. Let's say he was 18. In 1983, when the character was introduced, he would have been 34 years old. Channing Tatum is only 31 now, which would make him 28 or 29 when ROC was filmed. His youth takes away from the character.
2- Duke was scripted poorly. He a) had poor comic dialog, b) was scripted to disrespect General Hawk and disobey his orders, and c) stooped to blackmailing himself on the GI Joe team. Not the Duke we know and love.
3- He was directed poorly. Most of the actors shots should have been given another take at least. Channing Tatum was wooden, but I've seen him act better. The director wanted this film in the can, good or bad.
4- He did not look like duke. No blonde flat top. How many actors have those? Aren't there hairstylists on set?
Just my take on the Tatum situation. I don't want Duke to die: he's one of my favorite characters. Channing Tatum Duke, however, can get hit by a bus for all I care!
Really? This is a lame ass discussion. A lame comparison too.
07GT500 COBRA
12-13-2011, 10:50 AM
I love the Retaliation trailer, but even with editing, Tatum's weak ass acting managed to seep through.
I still have some hope for him in the role. He wasn't horrible in The Eagle.
CrocPotMaster
12-13-2011, 10:58 AM
I love the Retaliation trailer, but even with editing, Tatum's weak ass acting managed to seep through.
I still have some hope for him in the role. He wasn't horrible in The Eagle.
Too bad The Eagle was horrible all on its own. :)
Sciencefriction
12-13-2011, 11:07 AM
I don't think he captured the look of Duke, or Duke's charisma. Duke should have been a naturally tough but charismatic actor, like Christian Bale. Channing Tatum isn't the actor to play a lead like Duke and carry a movie or franchise. I'm sure that has been realized as is why he plays a lesser role in the new film (we have to assume anyway..).
Colonel Bludd
12-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Channing Tatum is an actor who gets alot of parts and is adored by alot of fans.
In what country is this happening?
blayze5150
12-13-2011, 12:16 PM
Really? Isn't that filecard for the ARAH Duke? I thought that since Tatum was cast as Duke, he WAS Duke as far as the movie-verse was concerned...
You have to at least try to stay somewhat close to the source material. Otherwise, you should make the movie under another title.
If they went off the ARAH Bios. That would put Duke in his 60s and more than likely behind a desk not in the Field. In fact that would most of The Joes 60+ as most were NAM vets. But I guess if you want GI JOE and Cobra to be fighting over control of the nursing home than by all means...
That and Duke always bothered be as a kid. He had the creepy child molestor grin. Still kinda creepy. Im going to hide under my bed now.
Not what I was going for. I meant based on the age he was in 1984 today, so maybe mid to late 30's. No one wants to see Grumpy Old Men meets Platoon! He just needed to be five to seven years older, IMO, which killed his credibility!
Yes, Duke should have been cast as a 60 year old to fall in line with the original continuity to appease those intolerent to any change whatsoever... Actually, the whole cast should have been.
I'm not intolerent to change at all. I am intolerent to calling someone by the name of a character that they are nothing like and do not have the acting skills to imitate. It was a very poor casting choice, and the changes to the character took away from the film. It was like Justin Bieber trying to play Charles Bronson's character in a remake of Deathwish.
Really? This is a lame ass discussion. A lame comparison too.
Comparing a character in a movie to the source material is lame? If it's not worth your time, why chime in?
In what country is this happening?
Unfortunately, this one. IMDB him. The women at my workplace love him.
spot138
12-13-2011, 12:59 PM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
Agreed - Tatums just looks to young, also he's a bit too much of a pretty boy.
MLos1
12-13-2011, 01:12 PM
stephen lang works for the old duke...so does michael biehn.
blayze5150
12-13-2011, 01:27 PM
In my opinion, here are some guys who would have been much better:
Jeffrey Donovan (Michael Weston from Burn Notice)
Michael Weatherly (Tony Dinozzo from NCIS)
Daniel Craig (If he can pull off the American accent)
Paul Walker
... and if they had to go with a younger actor, Chris Pine would have been a perfect choice.
I realize only one of these guys is blonde, but that's what hair and makeup are for!
Darkfire
12-13-2011, 01:38 PM
Hell the guy that plays Green Arrow on Smallville looks more like Duke, has the blonde flat-top and can act better than Tatum.
One of the most hated parts of the GI Joe live action film was the casting of Duke. Channing Tatum is an actor who gets alot of parts and is adored by alot of fans. Now, it appears the character may be killed off in the sequel. Duke is a major character. Why would his portrayal anger fans so much. To explain this, here's a look at the ultimate source of the GI Joe canon: the original Duke filecard!
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy214/blayze5150/100_7046.jpg
1- Duke enlisted in 1967. Let's say he was 18. In 1983, when the character was introduced, he would have been 34 years old. Channing Tatum is only 31 now, which would make him 28 or 29 when ROC was filmed. His youth takes away from the character.
2- Duke was scripted poorly. He a) had poor comic dialog, b) was scripted to disrespect General Hawk and disobey his orders, and c) stooped to blackmailing himself on the GI Joe team. Not the Duke we know and love.
3- He was directed poorly. Most of the actors shots should have been given another take at least. Channing Tatum was wooden, but I've seen him act better. The director wanted this film in the can, good or bad.
4- He did not look like duke. No blonde flat top. How many actors have those? Aren't there hairstylists on set?
Just my take on the Tatum situation. I don't want Duke to die: he's one of my favorite characters. Channing Tatum Duke, however, can get hit by a bus for all I care! Did Tobey Maguire have the same hairstyle that Peter originally had in the comics? No? I thought so. I could agree with you on some points but that last one was just plain ignorant and was more of a nitpick than an actual reason not to like Tatum. NO ONE GIVES A FLYING F-WORD IF HE HAS A FLATTOP BESIDES FANBOYS!
dantedmc37
12-13-2011, 03:56 PM
Jason Statham (the Transporter) seems like a naturally hard first shirt. I don't know if he can turn that accent on and off. If not who cares the movie verse Joe team is international.
Gideon75
12-13-2011, 04:05 PM
I've said this before:
This is Duke - Mark Valley
Mark Valley - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0885090/)
Even served in Desert Storm.
blayze5150
12-14-2011, 12:14 AM
Did Tobey Maguire have the same hairstyle that Peter originally had in the comics? No? I thought so. I could agree with you on some points but that last one was just plain ignorant and was more of a nitpick than an actual reason not to like Tatum. NO ONE GIVES A FLYING F-WORD IF HE HAS A FLATTOP BESIDES FANBOYS!
I completely disagree. Peter Parker's hairstyle changed many times over the years depending on who the artist was drawing him. Duke's appearance was the same in almost every Joe incarnation. It would be ignorant to insist he wear the 1984 Boy Scout uniform, but this was a bigger, and fixable, deal.
Darth Awgmon
12-14-2011, 12:57 AM
.... No one wants to see Grumpy Old Men meets Platoon!....
Are you fucking kidding me? That sounds like the greatest movie ever! Ernest Borgnine as Gung-Ho! Cloris Leachman as Scarlett! I'm in.
Darth Awgmon
12-14-2011, 01:01 AM
I've said this before:
This is Duke - Mark Valley
Mark Valley - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0885090/)
Even served in Desert Storm.
THat guy was the 2nd Jack Devereaux on Days of Our Lives. He's way too big of a pussy to be Duke. Kind of like Tatum. I would have no idea who he was if not for GI Joe.
Headman
12-14-2011, 01:05 AM
You're not going to find a better actor to play Duke than this guy (Stephen Lang). He looks just like the Sideshow figure. The first time I saw him in Avatar I thought "Holy shit! It's Duke!"
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd374/Clawgut/duke.jpg
He's too old. Plus he's awful. Just awful.
Stnick8541
12-14-2011, 01:11 AM
Damian Lewis from Band of Brothers would have been an excellent choice for Duke. He would have to change his red hair but he has the military movie/show under his belt as a confirmed and extremely admired leader of his men. I am not real excited about an English guy playing an american soldier but I think Lewis would pull it off. His age would also fit in as the First Sgt. not Captain ROC jacked up on.
Headman
12-14-2011, 01:13 AM
I'm going to go with Christian Bale. He can play anything. He dropped down to 90 lbs for a role so I don't see dying his hair blond as being much of a problem for him.
MeLikeJinx
12-14-2011, 01:14 AM
I never thought of Duke as a pretty boy, even though in the ARAH cartoon he is kinda depicted as a handsome-ish man.
Headman
12-14-2011, 01:16 AM
I never thought of Duke as a pretty boy, even though in the ARAH cartoon he is kinda depicted as a handsome-ish man.
Oh he's a sexy hunk of man meat alright. And some of the guys at Sunbow told me he's packing more than that laser rifle they gave him in the toon.
mightyjl
12-14-2011, 01:57 AM
Duke is a shitty character in the comics, cartoons, and movies. I thought Channing Tatem was a perfect casting decision. if your gonna include a terrible character, may as well cast a terrible actor to play him.
Headman
12-14-2011, 02:18 AM
Duke is a shitty character in the comics, cartoons, and movies. I thought Channing Tatem was a perfect casting decision. if your gonna include a terrible character, may as well cast a terrible actor to play him.
Stalker is a sissy.
blayze5150
12-14-2011, 02:20 AM
He's not much older than Tatum, but (I am going to get slammed for this), what about John Cena?
Headman
12-14-2011, 02:27 AM
He's not much older than Tatum, but (I am going to get slammed for this), what about John Cena?
Cena is the real life Duke. He's not a horrible actor either, but wrestlers in movies have a stigma that is hard to shake.
RNSrobot
12-14-2011, 02:32 AM
He's not much older than Tatum, but (I am going to get slammed for this), what about John Cena?
Not a Cena fan, but he'd actually be solid in the role.
takedown
12-14-2011, 02:32 AM
Are you fucking kidding me? That sounds like the greatest movie ever! Ernest Borgnine as Gung-Ho! Cloris Leachman as Scarlett! I'm in.
Yeah and Ernest Borgnine is still crankin out movies... He's 93 years old and still tough as nails... "Dirty Dozen", "Airwolf" and "A Grandpa for Christmas"...
Headman
12-14-2011, 02:33 AM
Not a Cena fan, but he'd actually be solid in the role.
But how can he be in a big budget action movie if you can't see him?
07GT500 COBRA
12-14-2011, 10:32 AM
Yeah and Ernest Borgnine is still crankin out movies... He's 93 years old and still tough as nails... "Dirty Dozen", "Airwolf" and "A Grandpa for Christmas"...
That ain't the only thing he's cranking. His secret to healthy old age is "masturbating constantly".
Darth Awgmon
12-14-2011, 01:11 PM
That ain't the only thing he's cranking. His secret to healthy old age is "masturbating constantly".
Works for me.
07GT500 COBRA
12-15-2011, 12:19 PM
Works for me.
LOL. Here's to collecting the 75th Anniversary line!
Firefly77
12-15-2011, 12:48 PM
"Get over it and move on!"
That's my favorite catch phrase from the Hisstank. In all seriousness, I agree with most of your points even if some are missed by others. Your first point concerning his introduction age makes some sense. That's the timeless age he has been from the get go, as strange as that sounds. Assuming you're right about him being 18 during enlistment, he would have likely been thirty four. There's a bigger difference between twenty eight and thirty four than a twenty eight year old might realize. His youth did show in the movie. As to those who believe that you mean he should be in his sixties, well, I guess you get all kinds.
And the flattop. So true. Would it be that tough to get Duke looking more like the one we remember? Just slightly?
His acting isn't my favorite either. Just my thoughts.
Bushmaster72
12-16-2011, 02:22 AM
But how can he be in a big budget action movie if you can't see him?
Zandar?
My problem with the whole Duke situation is that what made him different was that he was the all-American supposed farm boy type(though born in St. Louis...makes more sense for him to come from Nebraska or something). Instead he was made into an officer. His filecard made him the enlisted version of Hawk, wanting to lead from the front and be involved.
CobraCommandr
12-16-2011, 02:54 AM
You cannot have Cena play Duke. Cena is not a good actor, hell, I don't even consider him an actor. He is a pro wrestler trying to be in movies. The ONLY wrestler ever to do it big on screen is The Rock. That doesn't mean a lot of wrestlers haven't been on screen, but The Rock is the only one good at it. You would need someone who resembles Duke and is an actual actor who can act. I think Tatum is too soft spoken, he has no authority in his voice or demeanor. Me, personally, I would say Christian Bale and for a few reasons. Christian Bale is a really good actor, he really becomes the role he is playing. I think he could pull off a Duke with a haircut and dye.
Headman
12-16-2011, 02:57 AM
You cannot have Cena play Duke. Cena is not a good actor, hell, I don't even consider him an actor. He is a pro wrestler trying to be in movies. The ONLY wrestler ever to do it big on screen is The Rock. That doesn't mean a lot of wrestlers haven't been on screen, but The Rock is the only one good at it. You would need someone who resembles Duke and is an actual actor who can act. I think Tatum is too soft spoken, he has no authority in his voice or demeanor. Me, personally, I would say Christian Bale and for a few reasons. Christian Bale is a really good actor, he really becomes the role he is playing. I think he could pull off a Duke with a haircut and dye.
To Cena's credit, his acting isn't bad. It's the movies that have been chosen for him. He's actually got pretty good comedic chops as can be seen in the episode of Pysch he did. Besides, the Rock isn't exactly Brando himself.
CobraCommandr
12-16-2011, 03:03 AM
I liked a lot of The Rock's movies. Just to name a few good ones IMO: Be Cool, The Rundown, Walking Tall, Faster, Fast Five, Gridiron Gang, The Scorpion King, etc. He had some decent roles in Doom and a couple others. No other wrestler comes close to that.
Headman
12-16-2011, 03:34 AM
I liked a lot of The Rock's movies. Just to name a few good ones IMO: Be Cool, The Rundown, Walking Tall, Faster, Fast Five, Gridiron Gang, The Scorpion King, etc. He had some decent roles in Doom and a couple others. No other wrestler comes close to that.
I'm not going to take anything away from the Rock's action hero status, but I would argue that it would be hard for any wrestler to attempt the same thing while under contract with the WWE. Now days any WWE superstar who wants to try his hand in acting gets stuck in some half assed WWE films project with zero chance of becoming a hit. I believe Cena has a similiar presence to Dwayne Johnson and if he wanted to leave the world of wrestling for an acting career he'd probably do ok.
ThreeHGame
12-17-2011, 06:14 AM
I don't think he captured the look of Duke, or Duke's charisma. Duke should have been a naturally tough but charismatic actor, like Christian Bale. Channing Tatum isn't the actor to play a lead like Duke and carry a movie or franchise. I'm sure that has been realized as is why he plays a lesser role in the new film (we have to assume anyway..).
I partiality agreed with the idea of Tatum being wooden and someone better being cast until I read this. Bale does not come off as tough. Neurotic or unstable maybe. Using a gravely voice while wearing a bat suit hardly makes someone tough and the Terminator stuff came off as over-acting. After thinking about how bad Bale would have been I am glad Tatum is on board.
alcoholic ewok
12-17-2011, 08:25 AM
I'm not going to take anything away from the Rock's action hero status, but I would argue that it would be hard for any wrestler to attempt the same thing while under contract with the WWE. Now days any WWE superstar who wants to try his hand in acting gets stuck in some half assed WWE films project with zero chance of becoming a hit. I believe Cena has a similiar presence to Dwayne Johnson and if he wanted to leave the world of wrestling for an acting career he'd probably do ok.
Nope, no one would see him.
MeLikeJinx
12-17-2011, 06:44 PM
Watching Battlefield LA again (I like this movie, so what... sue me, lol) and the Staff Sergeant played by Aaron Eckhart makes for a great Duke IMO. Not pretty, but not ugly, kinda old, but not too old, kinda emo, but always steady and calm during combat.
blayze5150
12-18-2011, 12:51 AM
Watching Battlefield LA again (I like this movie, so what... sue me, lol) and the Staff Sergeant played by Aaron Eckhart makes for a great Duke IMO. Not pretty, but not ugly, kinda old, but not too old, kinda emo, but always steady and calm during combat.
I never saw it, but that's it. Seriously. Aaron Eckhart is Duke.
M_renegade
12-22-2011, 02:01 AM
Oh shut up.
"They're Joooes!"
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsF/6057-28819.jpg
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsF/6057-28819.jpg
Meat group!
Wylde Weezle
12-22-2011, 03:23 AM
Yikes. If they'd had Brendan Fraser as Duke, things could've gone either way. These movies have been the only place I've seen Duke as an officer instead of a senior NCO, but if they were dead set on having Channing Tatum in the movie (I think it happened because Sam Worthington had a scheduling conflict!) they did right to make him a...what was it? a captain? The age was right, then for the rank.
vermillion21
12-22-2011, 04:05 AM
Duke as a character sucks. I hate Duke.
Flint071
12-22-2011, 07:58 AM
I thought someone resurrected an old thread.
Guess not.
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