Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar

[Money-B]

I just read that Randy Couture will face Brock Lesnar November 15th to defend his UFC Heavyweight Title.

I personally am looking forward to this fight. One of the all time greats against one of the fastest rising stars of MMA. I don't even know if anyone here is a fan of MMA (has to be some), but I had to share this.

[QBERT]

I am a fan, and will definitely be watching this event.

[dawg99]

can't wait gonna be a sweet fight

[Glumby]

Dont forget we have countdown to UFC 88 tonight on SPIKE and Saturday's fight with Liddell/Evans and Franklin/Hamill

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Chuck Liddell fights Rashaad Evans this saturday. That should be a great fight. The Iceman against an undefeated Evans. I don't know who else is on but it should be a great main event. Evans can take a beating and give it too. He'll need it with that sledgehammer of a right hand Liddell has.

[Sysiss]

As much as I'd like to see Brock succeed in the UFC, THIS fight from a technical standpoint doesn't look good for him. This has "Mir" written all over it as Couture is a submission specialist and i can easily see the fight going that way in Couture's favor.

Brock has personally stated that he wants to put up against the best, but I'm just not sure that he's ready and has the appropriate defense for Couture's style.

[RockinHard]

I have a partially torn rotator cuff that I just had surgery on due to mma training. I love mma. I'm glad to see Couture back!

[Money-B]

Saturday will be a great fight no doubt, but 5 rounds of Couture vs. Lesnar is a dream come true. I don't think it will last 5 rounds, but that is why I have to see this.

Will Randy make him tap?
or will Brock knock out a legend?

November 15th can't come soon enough.

[Lantern_Lad]

Meh... we're pals... we hang...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/Lantern_Lad/100_0266.jpg

Not really. Cool guy though.

[Colder Soldier]

Where did you hear that fight was happening? I must have missed something. How did Randy Couture get the heavyweight title back? And is he not still trying to get a fight with Emilianenko at Affliction?

[G.I. Smurf]

ive looked through the ufc fight card and didnt see it anywhere unless they posted it in the last week or so. i kinda hope its true as im a amateur MMA fighter and randy is my favorite fighter.

in other news ken shamrock is fighting kimbo soon, that should be pretty good even though i dont think kimbo has much of a chance.

[Money-B]

I read it on Yahoo Sports. Here is the link to the article:

Couture returns to UFC, faces Lesnar - MMA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AsFJ2WozdR.58iFzW6_X8iU9Eo14?slug=ki-couture090208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

[Colder Soldier]

My god, it's true. Seems that the WWE sports entertainer has brought that kind of popcorn publicity with him. I hope Randy thoroughly destroys him after that shameful victory display of Brock's his last fight. Hopefully that's the point of all this. LOL

[Money-B]

I think the point is that Dana White wants to make money and punish Randy. The first part will definitely work. I guess we'll have to wait until the fight to see if the rest pans out for him.

[Monkeywrench]

its gonna be a good ass fight

[GunghosLipHair]

im a little bent out of shape about this. Brock really does not deserve a title shot just yet imo. He is good and fun to watch, but he really has not paid any dues yet. Yes he is a beast and in great shape, but this is a pure money grab on the UFCs part. If lesnar loses, is this the end for him? I am hoping on Randy winning, but i could see Lesnar getting the W too. Its a fickle sport. My problem is Lesnar is 2-1 how is that championship caliber? Lesnar needs to fight coleman first imo. And i think he needs to beat mir to get a shot at the belt in the first place. UFC is going to have the winner of the Nog/Mir fight go against the Lesnar/ couture winner. IMO lesnar needs to fight mir first and win to even be in the conversation for a title.

[arc30]

Should be a good fight. Randy should take it, unless Brock gets lucky with a ko, cuz there's no other way he's gonna beat him. Brock looked good against crazyhorse, but i wish he had a few more other fights before he gets a title shot. There's also rumors that a fight between fedor and randy may still happen before the end of the year.

[Scarlett002]

I hope Randy wins. =) Will more than likely be watching it with family.

[KingOfVillains]

Can't wait to see Brock Al CaPWN Couture's old ass and take his belt away!

SWEET! I was afraid the Mir fight would hurt Lesnar, but evidently everyone, including Dana White, realized that was a fluke and Brock would kill Frank...the way he beat Heath Herring like a Fremont Street hooker!

This is gonna' be BADASS!!!

[Headman]

Brock should use the F-5 lol.

[TheLongestDay]

this will be AWESOME! but i have a feeling Randy will come out on top...

[NateR]

Should definitely be an interesting fight. I know that Couture has the technical advantage, but Brock hits HARD and I don't know if Randy's 45-year-old chin can take it.

If it doesn't end by KO in the first round, then I think Randy has a good chance of submitting him; but I'm picking Brock for this one.

I believe Randy had to sign a three fight deal with the UFC in order to get this fight. The UFC is just not going to let him off the hook with his contract. So, I guess that puts Randy 0-1 against the UFC lawyers. :)

I'm sure that the UFC is going to keep him under contract for the rest of his athletic life to prevent him from fighting in any other organizations. It wouldn't be the first time they have put someone under contract solely for the purpose of preventing them from fighting in other organizations.

[(GI)Joe]

yea he signed a 3 fight deal with UFC - i def. see randy winning this fight.. im sure brock learned his lesson from Mir and will calm it down a bit

but from a technical standpoint he will destroy brock so we will see what happens im really curious

[Steel]

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[daremo]

Both times I've seen Randy fight, he lost (Chuck Liddell). He hasn't lost since and has fought some great fighters. I'm hoping he'll continue this trend.

[Money-B]

A lot of people here seem to think Brock has no chance.
I need to hit the streets and see what kind of bets that I can scare up.

[Monkeywrench]

A lot of people here seem to think Brock has no chance.
I need to hit the streets and see what kind of bets that I can scare up.

i think Brock should be favored but it's so hard not to bet on Randy. Everytime Randy should lose he wins.

[KingOfVillains]

I think Randy will be lucky if Brock doesn't rip his arms off and beat him to death with them.

Lesnar is gonna' beat Randy down...really bad I think.

[Shin-Gouki]

I think Brock has an excellent chance. My reason? Randy came back to fight him, he said he would not fight for them again unless they gave hims someone he deemed worthy. In his eyes it's Brock.

[NateR]

Ok..I never thought I would pull a shameless plug, but please check out my MMA website MMA Spot - Powered by vBulletin (http://www.mmaspot.net) for the latest in discussion on Brock, Randy, Fedor and more.

I post under the name...Steel:)

I noticed you're from Jersey, so before I tell you which MMA websites I run, I should ask who your favorite fighter is.

[Sysiss]

SWEET! I was afraid the Mir fight would hurt Lesnar, but evidently everyone, including Dana White, realized that was a fluke and Brock would kill Frank...the way he beat Heath Herring like a Fremont Street hooker!

This is gonna' be BADASS!!!


I'm a Brock fan, but face it...the Mir fight wasn't a fluke. Brock owned him, but then fell victim to a submission. How can that be a fluke when everyone knows that Brock has practically ZERO experience in defending something like that. Brock's way of beating you is by smothering you and beating you to death plain and simple, advert from that and he's lost...you can see it in the ring.

Saying that.... IMO this fight looks really bad for Brock. I'm not saying he can't win, but i can easily see him falling victim to a submission that he doesn't even know is coming. Randy's no idiot, he's not going to try to duke it out with Brock or over power him. He'll use his technical skills and maneuver his way into a submission in which Brock won't know how to defend.

Brock beat Heath because they are similar fighters. Heath made the mistake of trying to beat Brock at his own game which was a mistake. If Brock looses where does that put him, especially if it's by submission. At that point it'll really look like he's only only capable of fighting brawlers much like himself, thus loosing credibility.

[Flashbang]

I so see Couture managing to expose Brock being weak to submissions. However, I'll see Couture getting roughed up pretty bad.

Randy in 2.

[Monkeywrench]

I so see Couture managing to expose Brock being weak to submissions. However, I'll see Couture getting roughed up pretty bad.

Randy in 2.

The thing is Randy isn't that great at Subs. He's only subbed one man in his career

[Sysiss]

The thing is Randy isn't that great at Subs. He's only subbed one man in his career

Not that it's much of a difference, but he's had two. Couture's style is indeed ground and pound as well as having a wrestling background just as Brock, but I think Couture's smart enough to where he knows that trying to match Brock's strength and size would be unwise.

With his experience combined with strategy I see him going for a submission. In the Mir fight, Mir changed the fight around literally in seconds. Brock never even saw it coming, he looked EXTREMELY vulnerable to submissions, I defiantly see Couture testing that.

It could turn out to be a slug fest, but from a strategical standpoint by Couture i see otherwise.

[Money-B]

Dont forget we have countdown to UFC 88 tonight on SPIKE and Saturday's fight with Liddell/Evans and Franklin/Hamill


I watched UFC 88 last night. Damn Evans has a mean right hand!

[Monkeywrench]

The fight is coming up. I can't wait

[Zanzibar]

Brock should use the F-5 lol.

That would be a mark out moment for WWE/PW fans. ;)

[Shin-Gouki]

If for some reason Randy's on his shoulders and he can stand up with him like that then go for it. However the likelyhood of that happening in a real fight are very slim.

[Money-B]

All will be answered soon. I can't wait for this fight.
I really hope there is more big punches than a bunch of wrestling, but I would like to know who the better wrestler is.

[stburr91]

All will be answered soon. I can't wait for this fight.
I really hope there is more big punches than a bunch of wrestling, but I would like to know who the better wrestler is.

I would be surprised is Randy tries to stand with Lesnar. I see Randy taking him down, and laying on top of him for 5 rounds, just like he did against Tim Sylvias.

It's either going to be an exciting fight because Lesnar kicks the crap out of Randy, or a boring fight because Randy lays on Lesnar for 5 rounds.

[Gung.Heaux]

watch this can of worms......

RIGGED!

[sgt.bludhound]

what time does the PPV start? does anyone know.........?

[Steel]

Check out MMA Spot - Powered by vBulletin (http://www.MMAspot.net)

That's my website and I post under Steel. I'm glad to know we have MMA fans here!

[Steel]

watch this can of worms......

RIGGED!

You're thinking WWE..not UFC.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

Wow... that Mir loss is embarrassing...

[Big Jim]

You're thinking WWE..not UFC.
or Elite if they were still in business

[Monkeywrench]

can't wait. Fight starts at 9pm central time

[Scarlett002]

Yep I will be watching it! I am leaning toward Randy Couture. He might be old but he is more experienced, way more than Brock Lesner. I know that some of you might say that Brock has brute strength but sometimes to win it takes skill and quick thinking which is something that I think that Brock Lesner hasn't mastered yet. IMO. :)

[Rougarou]

The fight is a win win for Brock unless Randy knocks him out. If Brock wins it gives him credit. If he loses by submission he just needs to learn more ground game. This is Brocks 4th fight he still has a ton to learn win or lose. Losing to Randy is losing to one of the greatest, just means you have more to learn. The real man at Heavy Weight right now is Fedor Emelianenko.

[Shin-Gouki]

Lesnar WINS!!

Nobody can call him fake anymore

[1SGHauser]

Lesnar WINS!!

Nobody can call him fake anymore

How? Details!! I'm at work and not able to see the fight...

[Shin-Gouki]

Randy Couture Vs. Brock Lesnar

Round 1

The round begins and the two circle and tie up. Brock with some knees and Randy backs Brock into the cage. Lesnar with a good knee. They remain against the cage, and Brock continues to land big knees. Brok is now leaning on Couture against the cage. Randy lands a right as the two move off the cage. Brock shoots, Randy fights the takedown, And Lesnar takes down Couture and ends up in Randy’s half guard. Lesnar briefly mounts Couture escapes. Randy is trying to take Lesnar’s back, the crowd goes crazy, and Lesnar powers back into Coutures half guard. Brock has Couture on his back. Lesnar landing some shots, but Couture defending well. Lesnar looks patient, and Randy works back to his feet. Couture is leaning into Brock against the cage. Lesnar looks winded. And the round comes to and end.

Round 2

Brock starts off with a jab. Lesnar hits Randy with and elbow and wobbles Couture. Couture pushes Lesnar against the cage and uses the time to recover. The two exhange knees. Lesnar lands a big knee, and Couture answers. Lesnar is cut above his right eye. Brock shoots, and gets stuffed by Couture who again pushes the fight up against the cage. Couture working for the takedown, but Lesnar lands another big knee. Lesnar with a huge shot, Couture is hurt, Lesnar leaps on him and pounds him out.

Brock Lesnar def. Randy Couture via TKO 3:07 Round 2

[1SGHauser]

Holy balls... I knew Randy should have stayed retired. Now he goes out on a loss...

Too bad.

[Shin-Gouki]

He said he wanted a challenge, he got it.

[1SGHauser]

Randy Couture Vs. Brock Lesnar

Round 1

The round begins and the two circle and tie up. Brock with some knees and Randy backs Brock into the cage. Lesnar with a good knee. They remain against the cage, and Brock continues to land big knees. Brok is now leaning on Couture against the cage. Randy lands a right as the two move off the cage. Brock shoots, Randy fights the takedown, And Lesnar takes down Couture and ends up in Randy’s half guard. Lesnar briefly mounts Couture escapes. Randy is trying to take Lesnar’s back, the crowd goes crazy, and Lesnar powers back into Coutures half guard. Brock has Couture on his back. Lesnar landing some shots, but Couture defending well. Lesnar looks patient, and Randy works back to his feet. Couture is leaning into Brock against the cage. Lesnar looks winded. And the round comes to and end.

Round 2

Brock starts off with a jab. Lesnar hits Randy with and elbow and wobbles Couture. Couture pushes Lesnar against the cage and uses the time to recover. The two exhange knees. Lesnar lands a big knee, and Couture answers. Lesnar is cut above his right eye. Brock shoots, and gets stuffed by Couture who again pushes the fight up against the cage. Couture working for the takedown, but Lesnar lands another big knee. Lesnar with a huge shot, Couture is hurt, Lesnar leaps on him and pounds him out.

Brock Lesnar def. Randy Couture via TKO 3:07 Round 2


Thanks for the rundown... Very descriptive. Gonna have to catch this on replay.

[grimdaddy]

Thanks for the update.

[1SGHauser]

Florian v. Stevenson

[Shin-Gouki]

Kenny Florian Vs. Joe Stevenson

Round 1

The fight starts with a Florian low kick. Florian lands a combo, followed by a knee. Stevenson keeps moving forward. Stevenson lands a few big shots and moves Florian up against the cage. Single leg takedown by Stevenson, and Florian is quick back to his feet. Stevenson keeps Florian against the cage. Stevenson lifts Florian , Florian grabs the cage to stop the slam and is warned by Herb Dean. The fighters move back to the center of the cage and begin to exchange. Florian takes Stevenson to the floor, and works from half guard. Florian moves to mount and begins to rain down on Stevenson. Joe Daddy rolls and Kenny takes his back. Kenny sinks in the choke and Stevenson taps!!!!!!!

Kenny Florian def. Joe Stevenson via submission 4:03 Round 1

[1SGHauser]

Kenny Florian Vs. Joe Stevenson

Round 1

The fight starts with a Florian low kick. Florian lands a combo, followed by a knee. Stevenson keeps moving forward. Stevenson lands a few big shots and moves Florian up against the cage. Single leg takedown by Stevenson, and Florian is quick back to his feet. Stevenson keeps Florian against the cage. Stevenson lifts Florian , Florian grabs the cage to stop the slam and is warned by Herb Dean. The fighters move back to the center of the cage and begin to exchange. Florian takes Stevenson to the floor, and works from half guard. Florian moves to mount and begins to rain down on Stevenson. Joe Daddy rolls and Kenny takes his back. Kenny sinks in the choke and Stevenson taps!!!!!!!

Kenny Florian def. Joe Stevenson via submission 4:03 Round 1

Nice, thanks.

[Monkeywrench]

Awesome card. I can't believe Brock won

[Roadblock Recall]

i think it was fixed. pulled Randy out of retirement just so he could lose the belt to someone. The "big shot" from Lesnar was barely a graze behind the ear...and it looked like Randy just flopped straight down. Lesnar brings ratings, so it would have been a perfect oponent to claim the title. The announcers seemed in on it too...talking about what a CRUSHING BLOW Lesnar put on...please.

[Money-B]

I have to agree that the "BIG" shot was a bit overstated, but it was still a fun fight to watch.

I hope that Mir beats Nogueira so that Brock can avenge the earlier loss.

[Bionic Commando]

How? Details!! I'm at work and not able to see the fight...

Bionic Commando will let everyone in on his secret I watch all the fights for free just go to mmalinker.com

http://mmalinker.com/xExternal.php?vidid=10053

[1SGHauser]

Bionic Commando will let everyone in on his secret I watch all the fights for free just go to mmalinker.com

http://mmalinker.com/xExternal.php?vidid=10053


1SGHauser thanks Bionic Commando for his secret.

[M.E.A.T. VIPER]

Thanks for the link . I gotta be honest that big shot did have a pop to it and you can hear the impact. I know for some reason people either hate or love wrestling( and wrestlers) on this board but I think it was legit. The question is can he keep the belt longer than one fight ?

[Zanzibar]

When I heard of the fight a week or so ago, my thinking of Randy coming back to UFC after appearing at Affliction was to "drop the belt"
Now after reading the results, wish it gone a bit further.

[skatezaz]

kimbo flopped

[GrimlocksPS]

Theres wasn't much to the punch don't let the impact noise fool you. However getting hit in the temple is rough and can drop you with little or no power.

Also there aren't many fighters in the UFC HW division thta could take Lesnar due to his sheer size. I don't think Mir will be able to pull a second victory against Lesnar.

[Steel]

I love Randy, but knew Brock would catch him coming in or during one of the exchanges. This puts an end to Randy/Fedor in my book.

[Sysiss]

i think it was fixed. pulled Randy out of retirement just so he could lose the belt to someone. The "big shot" from Lesnar was barely a graze behind the ear...and it looked like Randy just flopped straight down. Lesnar brings ratings, so it would have been a perfect oponent to claim the title. The announcers seemed in on it too...talking about what a CRUSHING BLOW Lesnar put on...please.

If Brock would of won by submission would that of been fixed as well? People would find it just as hard to believe, hence the "theory." Just because the shot didn't "look" that devastating, doesn't mean it wasn't. Randy was hit right on the side of the head near the temple which is a pretty vulnerable area to begin with.

As far as Brock not having much on the punch, that can be highly deceptive. Getting hit by a train at 5 mph. is MUCH different then by getting hit by a wiffleball at 100 mph. Need I say more?

[karamazov80]

Some boxing matches are probably fixed, some UFC matches probably are, too. When the "entertainment" component seems to outweigh everything else (which it has seemed to do with boxing and UFC--the entrance music and walk, the stupid call-outs and interviews, etc. etc.), it probably becomes easier and easier for promoters to just cheat a little here and there. You KNOW, just like the NFL and WWE, half of those guys, at least, are on some type of steroids (e.g. Lesnar). So, cheating goes on, it's just a matter of what type and how much.

But ultimately, no one knows if it is fixed or not except those involved. Everything else is idle speculation. I would be glad for Lesnar's win, except that he acts like a total a$$hole in every interview I've seen, so I could give a damn about him. Anybody see him on "Outside the Lines" a couple weeks ago? What a scumbag.

[GrimlocksPS]

Lesnar is a douchebag..he thinks he entitled to that championship based on his limited experience. Same thing happened to Brian Staahn in the WEC. HE had like 6 fights and was their Light HW champ. He got beat by a younger more technically gifted fighter.

Lesnar HAS not been tested by a proficient/technical striker. Couture was a good striker but he's not the best in the HW division bnor the UFC. Lesnar has the wrestling skills and the size, but we need ot see him against someone like Cheick Kongo. Hopefully we get to see Fedor in the UFC as there really isn't a lot of competition in the UFC's HW division.


I really think Fedor would beat Lesnar..he's beat bigger guys.

[Roadblock Recall]

If Brock would of won by submission would that of been fixed as well?

I don't speak in absolutes when it comes to "what ifs" I'd have to see the submission to question the validity.

[Monkeywrench]

Lesnar is a douchebag..he thinks he entitled to that championship based on his limited experience. Same thing happened to Brian Staahn in the WEC. HE had like 6 fights and was their Light HW champ. He got beat by a younger more technically gifted fighter.

Lesnar HAS not been tested by a proficient/technical striker. Couture was a good striker but he's not the best in the HW division bnor the UFC. Lesnar has the wrestling skills and the size, but we need ot see him against someone like Cheick Kongo. Hopefully we get to see Fedor in the UFC as there really isn't a lot of competition in the UFC's HW division.


I really think Fedor would beat Lesnar..he's beat bigger guys.

Heath herring is 10 times the striker than Kongo and Brock smashed Herring.

[Monkeywrench]

Some boxing matches are probably fixed, some UFC matches probably are, too. When the "entertainment" component seems to outweigh everything else (which it has seemed to do with boxing and UFC--the entrance music and walk, the stupid call-outs and interviews, etc. etc.), it probably becomes easier and easier for promoters to just cheat a little here and there. You KNOW, just like the NFL and WWE, half of those guys, at least, are on some type of steroids (e.g. Lesnar). So, cheating goes on, it's just a matter of what type and how much.

But ultimately, no one knows if it is fixed or not except those involved. Everything else is idle speculation. I would be glad for Lesnar's win, except that he acts like a total a$$hole in every interview I've seen, so I could give a damn about him. Anybody see him on "Outside the Lines" a couple weeks ago? What a scumbag.

I can promise you that NO fight in the UFC is fixed. As for steroids, I'm sure more guys are on it than the ones who get caught. However the UFC fighters are tested before and after there fights and they are tested by comissions that are run by the goverment. Unlike MLB and NFL, all testing is done by the gov't.

[Monkeywrench]

i think it was fixed. pulled Randy out of retirement just so he could lose the belt to someone. The "big shot" from Lesnar was barely a graze behind the ear...and it looked like Randy just flopped straight down. Lesnar brings ratings, so it would have been a perfect oponent to claim the title. The announcers seemed in on it too...talking about what a CRUSHING BLOW Lesnar put on...please.

This fight was not fixed. Randy was not pulled out of retirement. He has had a contract dispute over money for the last 15 months. If they were paying him right he would have been fighting during that time.

As for the crushing blow, Try taking a punch from a 275 pound monster to the back of the head after fighting him for 7 minutes and see what happens. An a interview after the fight, Randy said he doesn't remember taking the punch because it briefly knocked him out.

[Money-B]

Randy said it was hard to keep ducking those hamhocks all night and that Brock is a really big sumbitch.

He showed to still have a lot of power and seemed to be very disappointed with the loss. I hope there will be a rematch.

I have to admit that I was cheering for Brock. I really thought one good shot could end it. Apparently it didn't even have to be that good.

[GrimlocksPS]

Heath herring is 10 times the striker than Kongo and Brock smashed Herring.

I forgot about Kongo/Herring at ufc 82..Kongo didn't want to even trade with Herring.

I dunno to me Herring didn't look like the same guy against Lesnar..

[QBERT]

I want to see:

Kenny Florian vs. Eminem or Lil' Wayne....i would pay handsomely to watch those two get their faces smashed open by KenFlo.

[Shin Densetsu]

Surprised Lesnar won. Honestly I hadn't even been following his progress, the last thing I remember was him losing at this first UFC match. Didn't think he would stick with it. If he is as arrogant as he sounds, he should take on Sakuraba, the guy that kicked Royce Gracie's ass years back.

[Shin-Gouki]

Lesnar is a douchebag..he thinks he entitled to that championship based on his limited experience.


Watch just before Lesnar gets in the Octagon.
Announcer (Rogan I think): "Brock Lesnar becomes the 19th fighter in UFC history to fight for a title with less than 10 fights, Only 3 of those men have been victorious. 3 of the first 18. Mark Coleman, Frank Mir, and ironically Randy "The Natural" Couture."

So that argument is blown out of the water.

[Rougarou]

Im curious to see Brock fight Fedor or someone like Jeff Monson who would give him hell on the ground. Not taking anything away from Brock, looks to have a bright future, but I still think Fedor is the man at Heavyweight. Any word of how Bobby Ashley is doing im MMA?

[Money-B]

Im curious to see Brock fight Fedor or someone like Jeff Monson who would give him hell on the ground. Not taking anything away from Brock, looks to have a bright future, but I still think Fedor is the man at Heavyweight. Any word of how Bobby Ashley is doing im MMA?

Lashley?

I wondered where he went.

[Scarlett002]

Lucky shot! I can't believe he won. Oh well, whichever way it was that he won he did.

[GrimlocksPS]

Watch just before Lesnar gets in the Octagon.
Announcer (Rogan I think): "Brock Lesnar becomes the 19th fighter in UFC history to fight for a title with less than 10 fights, Only 3 of those men have been victorious. 3 of the first 18. Mark Coleman, Frank Mir, and ironically Randy "The Natural" Couture."

So that argument is blown out of the water.

Neither of those guys were "Famous". Lesnar is name and thinks he deserves that title based on his name. I do have more respect for Lesnars game now, however he is still a baby, his next few matches will determine his worth in the UFC.

I hope he does well and forces all us naysyers to shut our holes.

[RuckusJr]

It's not like the guy's never been in any kind of real competition. He's got really good instincts and physically outmatches anyone UFC can put against him. His only potential weaknesses are "green-ness" (see the Mir fight) and conditioning. During his NFL tryouts, he ran a 4.7 40 yd dash, had a 35" vert, benched 475 and squatted 695. There's no way this guy, at this size, with his strength and pure wrestling ability should lose to anyone. His only opponent is his head.

There was a point in the fight where he looked like he was sick of trying to preserve energy or try to wear Randy out and just muscled himself out of a hold with ease. He was able to hold Randy off with ease when he wanted to. It'll be interesting to see how he does against someone who uses a variety of kicks, to see if he takes one to the dome or turns it into a leg-lock.

[Darth Jay]

Lesnar won an NCAA Wrestling Championship, and finished second the year before he won (losing to Patriots guard Stephen Neal). He had a career collegiate record of something like 108-5.

Why are people surprised? Because he went for the cash grab in the WWE out of college instead of MMA?

And honestly... I think even Frank Mir would admit he was lucky as hell he won that first fight. What did he really do other than get lucky that Brock knocked him on his ass and just stood there like a dope?

The scary part is going to be when Lesnar figures it all out. The dude is a legit monster and fast as hell for a guy that size.

And who can blame him for being cocky and arrogant? He's a bad MFer. All there is to it. Dude has lost 6 fights out of about 120, and if you go back to high school, he's probably still only lost 6 fights out of about 200...

[Rougarou]

Brock should prove to be a major force unlike Kimbo slice who elite xc gave him the second fight because he was going to lose and then got knocked out in his third fight.

Yeah Money-B i meant Lashley. Looked up Lashley and has a contract with American figh league for two fights and is scheduled for a December MMA debut. Hes just as much as a monster in size and strenght as Lesner.

[RuckusJr]

Brock should prove to be a major force unlike Kimbo slice who elite xc gave him the second fight because he was going to lose and then got knocked out in his third fight.

Yeah Money-B i meant Lashley. Looked up Lashley and has a contract with American figh league for two fights and is scheduled for a December MMA debut. Hes just as much as a monster in size and strenght as Lesner.


Should be interesting. Lashley was an accomplished wrestler, but on the NAIA level. Hardly D1 NCAA. He's sickly huge, but I don't know if he's got it in him to mount a guy and just pound away on his face. I don't see him being as successful as Lesnar right away, but in a couple of years a showdown would be fun for all us wrestling fans.

Kimbo should go on the Ultimate Fighter. It'd be great for the show and great real MMA experience for him. I'd watch it if he was on, but only if his hype man was there all the time yelling. Can you see it now? "Yeah Ferg, eat the fuck out of that cereal, Ferg!" "Fuck that laundry up, Ferg! Clean the shit out of your dirty clothes!"

[GrimlocksPS]

Rukus and Darth bring up some good points...but i would really love to see Lesnar meet Fedor in a ring or the Octagon.

One it would be a real test for Lesnar and Fedor, two it would be a cash cow for Dana...

[Sgt. Kayfabe]

It doesn't matter. Couture took a dive!

[ct nightviper]

lesner got lucky and i saw alot of kimbo talk after his last fight i dont think kimbo is really all that anymore

[GrimlocksPS]

lesner got lucky and i saw alot of kimbo talk after his last fight i dont think kimbo is really all that anymore

Thats a horrible mismatch IMO. Lesnar would walk through Kimbo.