SuperMan to get ReBoot (Thank God)

[spacemonkeymafia]

Warner Bros. Confirms Superman Reboot - ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=48159)

YES.YES,YES


WB please you dont have to have Lex as the Villian also.....he has many, many Baddies.............and keep Brandon Routh.

OK Discuss among yourselves.........

[TheLongestDay]

this is one near and dear to my heart-ive followed the ups and downs of the Superman franchise for what seems like forever..I was HUGELY disappointed with Superman Returns and i wanted so badly to like it.

They were close but it just seems they didnt get the character.Whatever they do next i just hope they get a creative team that truly understands who and what Superman is...and if its Mark Millars vision,I just hope he can keep his ego in check (and thats coming from a massive Millar fan!)

[darthfoley]

I can only imagine what sort of ridiculous nonsense might result from exploring the 'darker' side of Superman.

[Shin-Gouki]

I must be the only one that liked Superman Returns

[Irid70]

I must be the only one that liked Superman Returns


Nope, I quite enjoyed it. I thought it was certainly the best of any of the Superman films and I have no desire to see it rebooted. That being said, I am curious to see what direction this takes.

[TheLongestDay]

Im sure there are many people that enjoyed Superman Returns,but alot of the hardcore Superman fans didnt.

It certainly divided people,i even had an argument with my mate as soon as we left the cinema cuz he said he loved it and felt like a little kid again watching it and i argued that he only felt like that cuz it stole the magic of the 1st films.

The messed up "picking and choosing" of continuity,the muted dull colors,Superman using his powers to snoop on Lois,the fact that he had a kid that hed not even botherd with (and had unprotected sex with Loin then buggerd off for 6 years) the boring Perry characterization,the odd looking suit,the dodgy CGI...good lord i could go on but i wont lol

[Freedom]

I agree there were both good and bad points to Superman Returns.

I definitely don't think making all the DC films as dark as The Dark Knight is the way to go. Batman is a dark character. His stories need to be dark.

That's the problem with studio execs. They think what works for one movie will work for another.

[Dream]

I don't understand the whole IT NEEDS A REBOOT thing.
Superman Returns was a very awesome movie.
Granted, there wasn't much action going on, but it was awesome for what it was.
Batman is a darker tone than Supes, so trying to add a darker tone to the new Superman movie makes no sense.

[Shin-Gouki]

I hear taking Superman darker and all I can think is Doomsday

[Shogi]

Didn't they explore Superman's "dark side" in the 80's? I seem to remember something about a saran-wrap "S" symbol and Richard Pryor


Now a dark Lobo movie might work out pretty well

[TheLongestDay]

LOBO would OWN!

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

I must be the only one that liked Superman Returns

I love Superman Returns. It was supposed to be the table setter for Singer's 2nd movie.

[Gung.Heaux]

being a VERY casual fan of supes... i rather liked superman returns.

[swafus]

I couldn't even finish Superman Returns and I'm not a hardcore supes fan by any stretch.

Attention studio exec's: You don't have to make a movie "dark" for it to turn out great and make a boat-load of money. You just have to respect the source material!! That is why people are fawning over the dark knight, not because it's dark and edgy.

[Headman]

Why don't they reboot Harry Potter instead? They can even go with an all Wayans cast!

[RolandofGilead]

I liked Superman Returns and I'm a huge Superman fan. I think it stems from the fact that the movie is all about the original film and bases all it's history on that first (and part of the second) Superman film and not any on the comics. As a child who's first movie experience was Superman the Motion Picture, I had no problem with this. I liked the homage to the original, I liked Brandon Routh.

I know everything is about "dark" sides these days, but that's just not what Superman is about. You want dark, go talk to Batman. You want true heroism, true depth of character and the willingness to sacrifice all he is in the name of others, go with Superman.

[Monkeywrench]

Superman returns really sucked the big one. Hopefully this one will be much better

[Tomahawk]

interesting

[Headman]

I liked Superman Returns and I'm a huge Superman fan. I think it stems from the fact that the movie is all about the original film and bases all it's history on that first (and part of the second) Superman film and not any on the comics. As a child who's first movie experience was Superman the Motion Picture, I had no problem with this. I liked the homage to the original, I liked Brandon Routh.

I know everything is about "dark" sides these days, but that's just not what Superman is about. You want dark, go talk to Batman. You want true heroism, true depth of character and the willingness to sacrifice all he is in the name of others, go with Superman.

Agreed 100%. I think they wrote themselves into a corner with the kid, but other than that I'd much rather see a sequel to the original two films instead of a straight up comic book movie. And this obsession with "Dark" and "Edgy" films may work for Batman because that's what he is. But it's not going to work for Superman. Atleast not for me anyway.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Nope, I quite enjoyed it. I thought it was certainly the best of any of the Superman films and I have no desire to see it rebooted. That being said, I am curious to see what direction this takes.

I liked it also but IDK something was not right with it....

[topnotch97]

look what they did with the first Hulk.... with Ang Lee the director.... wasn't that dark?

[ShakeZula77]

I liked it also but IDK something was not right with it....

The whole deadbeat dad angle was stupid. Honestly if Supes did have a kid how could Lois carry the child. When it kicked wouldn't it kick a hole out of her stomach. Honestly when Supes blew his l0@d it would be like a shotgun blast out her back. Only Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus (I would imagine).

[Headman]

The whole deadbeat dad angle was stupid. Honestly if Supes did have a kid how could Lois carry the child. When it kicked wouldn't it kick a hole out of her stomach. Honestly when Supes blew his l0@d it would be like a shotgun blast out her back. Only Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus (I would imagine).

Ugh...Mallrats.

[ShakeZula77]

Ugh...Mallrats.

Yeah so it's still true........

[G.I. Smurf]

im glad. i thought the new superman was a disaster. its hard to believe that you can take a new movie and compare it to something 20 years old and staring reeve(not a big name but the perfect superman) and the 20 year old one is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

[Headman]

Yeah so it's still true........

lol sorry, I just have an allergy to Kevin Smith.

[ShakeZula77]

lol sorry, I just have an allergy to Kevin Smith.

I love some of his films.....not all. Did you hear he has seen Watchmen. I heard on G4 he says on his blog it was awesome. With fox suing WB to get the movie shelved he may be the only person to see it ever (I really hope not).


Oh yeah superman returns. I didn't like it.

[Sysiss]

The two main things that killed the movie for me, actually three....Lex, The Kid, and Lois....Lex, Spacey was fine, it's just that he's been SOO overdone. I know it's Supes arch nemesis, but did we need him right off the bat AGAIN!!

See BB, no Joker = Better Start. The angle with the kid was horrendous. The movie shifted 360 degrees when that happened. What were they thinking with that. Was the kid supposed to don a pair a tights in the sequel as well? Hell, maybe someone thought that "Superboy" would be the title of the sequel and "Superman" wouldn't even be in it. A kid had no place in that movie.

I HATED Lois. Could they of picked anyone that looks LESS like her? They could of cast Oprah Winfrey at that rate. So unattractive IMO with that frizzy 80's hair. Bleh....

I thought that Routh was the one bright spot. I thought that he acted like Clark as well as Supes, and had "the look."

[Scoop]

They should have just made a movie off of Smallville using the same cast. People seem to love that series. I think I've only seen a few episodes myself, but from what I remember it seemed better than Superman Returns.

[Headman]

They should have just made a movie off of Smallville using the same cast. People seem to love that series. I think I've only seen a few episodes myself, but from what I remember it seemed better than Superman Returns.

I couldn't stand Smallville. I'd rather the movie we got.

[gunslingercbr]

Yeah so it's still true........

something that is make believe can't be true.

[dmizrok]

they need to introduce Lobo! then they have a HUGE fight, then team up against a bigger threat from space....then give Lobo his own movie.

[spacemonkeymafia]

The whole deadbeat dad angle was stupid. Honestly if Supes did have a kid how could Lois carry the child. When it kicked wouldn't it kick a hole out of her stomach. Honestly when Supes blew his l0@d it would be like a shotgun blast out her back. Only Wonder Woman has a strong enough uterus (I would imagine).

Watch Mallrats any???? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??

[TheLongestDay]

im glad. i thought the new superman was a disaster. its hard to believe that you can take a new movie and compare it to something 20 years old and staring reeve(not a big name but the perfect superman) and the 20 year old one is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

exactly,the 1st movie is not dead on with the comics,but it has it where it counts,it has magic,heart,wit and great acting...and i still prefer the FX in the original compared to returns...yeh it may be obvious Reeves is superimposed via bluescreen on the flying scenes but at least its HIM not some plastic looking CGI stand in.

[LaDracul]

I dunno, I didn't think "Superman Returns" was a bad movie.

Though I really don't like Jimmy Marsden so much. Except in the films where he's getting beaten up.

[ShakeZula77]

Watch Mallrats any???? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??

Yeah. I own Clerks, Mallrats, and Dogma. I know my post was what Brodie blathers about in Mallrats. I just agree with his flawless logic.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Yeah. I own Clerks, Mallrats, and Dogma. I know my post was what Brodie blathers about in Mallrats. I just agree with his flawless logic.

I I love Brodie man was just playing man..........great movie..

[NateR]

I avoided Superman Returns in the theaters because I thought they did a terrible job of casting the movie. That metrosexual actor they got didn't look anything like Superman.

I eventually watched it on DVD because someone told me that it was one of the best comic book movie ever made and I "needed" to see it if I claimed to be a Superman fan. Well, I did and it was worse than I expected. Horrible movie.

The series needs a reboot, but I'm not sure if I care anymore.

Kind of like Batman, there were so many bad movies that I lost interest in the character by the time Batman Begins came around. I rented that one on DVD the same night I rented Superman and it was okay. I never need to see it again, and I'll probably skip The Dark Knight completely until it shows up on TV.

[TheLongestDay]

TDK is amazing,wether you lost interest in Batman or not-its a damn good movie

[Crimson Rage]

"and will be darker much like The Dark Knight"

Ohhhhh GET KNOTTED!!!

"The 'Dark' Batman is a hit, so let's make another but stick a Superman costume on him instead". I'm so sick of this need for things to be made 'dark', 'gritty' and nihilistic. Sure it suits Batman, but not Superman. Why even bother ressurecting him if they're just going to change him into a brooding Batman clone (just my speculation of course, but that seems the 'in' thing)
I'm not even a 'Superman' fan, but would actually like to see something *gasp* upbeat and optimistic for a change!!

[Apeiron]

Nice quoting Mallrats, ShakeZula77, as I was reading the posts I was expecting someone to bring it up.

I liked Superman Returns, but it was a bit too slow and felt like it was missing what the Chris Reeves films had. I didn't mind him having a kid so much, but I think they could have done it a lot better. Despite some stuff I didn't like in it I still thought it was a good movie.
I hope in the reboot they are quicker to getting him in the suit and there is more action and cut down on the origin story if they decide to include it, maybe do like they did in The Incredible Hulk.
Hopefully by darker they mean that we'll see the villains doing horrible things and not compromising who Superman is and what he represents. I don't think he could ever go to the dark places Batman goes, or even farther into being evil, without being under the control of another or the murder of Lois Lane.

[Headman]

I'm not even a 'Superman' fan, but would actually like to see something *gasp* upbeat and optimistic for a change!!

Couldn't agree more.

[Bryanm5150]

Why does DC only make movies on 2 characters? They have a plethura of super heroes but only concetrate on Superman and Batman. I want GREEN LANTERN and I want it now.

[MLos1]

I read this a few days ago...Yah know what the mistake with the last supes movie was...it lacked any really good action sequences...that was the problem...

A reboot is a great idea, but again, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE SCRIPT.

WE shall wait and see.

[TheLongestDay]

Why does DC only make movies on 2 characters? They have a plethura of super heroes but only concetrate on Superman and Batman. I want GREEN LANTERN and I want it now.

GL is my fave character,the fact they are developing the film has me excited-but they need a HUGE budget and it needs to be EPIC

[Freedom]

Hopefully by darker they mean that we'll see the villains doing horrible things and not compromising who Superman is and what he represents.
You hit the nail on the head.

Honestly, we judge our heroes by the villains. If the villain is campy and surrounded by bumbling henchmen, how much of a threat is he? How great is our hero if all he did was defeat a pack of MOrons?

That's what made The Dark Knight so good. Batman didn't change. His villain changed. The Joker wasn't a goofy clown. He was F'n psychotic and a real threat!

When your hero stands against a serious threat, against all odds and wins, that's what makes him a true hero and what makes a good story.

[Diablogunner]

I liked it, and will watch whatever is new, love comic movies, even the sucky ones.

[darthfoley]

Why does DC only make movies on 2 characters? They have a plethura of super heroes but only concetrate on Superman and Batman. I want GREEN LANTERN and I want it now.

A couple of years ago, as I recall, they had Green Lantern in development as a comedy starring Jack Black as Hal Jordan.

So, y'know, be careful what you wish for.

[TheLongestDay]

A couple of years ago, as I recall, they had Green Lantern in development as a comedy starring Jack Black as Hal Jordan.

So, y'know, be careful what you wish for.

thats been scrapped now....thank the maker!

[speedocub]

I must be the only one that liked Superman Returns

I Liked it, Superman Returns was one of my all time favorite movies. It even displaced the 1989 Burton BATMAN!

[Barefoot Jedi]

I liked "Superman Returns." I thought it was an excellent, subtle film.

For the record, though, didn't Superman make love to Lois Lane (in Superman 2) AFTER he had his powers taken away by the crystal chamber?

Which opens up another argument: His seed should have been de-supered as well. But I digress.

I know I am stating the obvious but studios make movies only to make money. The quality of a film is a very subjective thing. All that matters is that it makes money. "Superman Returns" was a financial disappointment, so they are going to try again, and if they get a hit, they can perhaps have a profitable franchise. "The Dark Knight" has shown there's still a lot of money to be made by the superhero film franchises.

I'm easy to please, though. I'm an X-Man fan and I liked "X3". I am aware of its faults, but that didn't significantly diminish my enjoyment.

[spacemonkeymafia]

I want a Superman film to make tons of money his character deserves to. I like S.M.R but felt Singer missed the boat on so many things.

Airplane save was done before although not as cool....Lex is just played out unless you go with the Business Tycoon...Take it all from you Lex.....but you need to give him someone to go toe to toe with........and you dont have to have Lex be the reason for said Super Foe.

I say keep Brandon Routh he did a good job and with someone else directing could be a "Better" Superman. His Clark was spot on it was Singers "Jesus" Wanna be Supes that sucked.

[gunslingercbr]

Suprman Returns was awful, but it's box office total was low because there just isn't much interest in the character, comparatively, to other comic properties. and just like Hulk, making a better movie won't change the BO totals. I am confident, regardless of how well this newer, darker Superman turns out, it won't fare much better than Returns. that's the problem with giving the audience a bad experience, they lose interest in the property.

[spacemonkeymafia]

it's box office total was low because there just isn't much interest in the character

I dont agree with that and know others wouldnt either. His Comics continue to do well every month. Sale just as well as Bat Mans (and before you bring out the whole comic fans wont sale enough tickets.....I know) All you need is the right story and it will bring in people. The First 2 Superman Films did well for the time....and one with a Good Story will bring in tons of people.....

Iron Man proved that....

More people out there know who Superman is over Iron Man......

[topnotch97]

i guess the execs thought it might be a good idea to do a dark themed version of supes. probably because they watch battlestar galactica. :D "Hey it might work!"

not unless they toss the movie into the Infinite Crisis theme. then it could work.