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Funnel Rat
10-12-2007, 01:06 AM
Anyone have a LEAST favorite 25th figure?

I only own the two 5 packs plus Flint and single Snake Eyes. Of all I own, I seem to be least impressed with Duke. His head seems too small and his gun (while cool looking) doesnt seem to fit super well in his hands while he seems to far bent forward. I'm not thrilled with his bandolier either.

He does have one of my fav 25th features though, the holster with pistol.

Any negative reviews for following waves are appreciated.

karamazov80
10-12-2007, 03:11 AM
I actually really dig Duke. He's got to be in my top 3 or 4, up there with V1 Snake Eyes, V1 Storm Shadow and Beach Head. But to answer your question, I despise Serpentor the most. The only thing I even remotely like about him is the broad sword. I also really dislike the V2 Storm Shadow. But, to be honest, I never liked those characters (I consider "Joe" Storm Shadow to be lame) or the old figures to begin with, so there might be an unfair bias built in there.

SnAkEyEz
10-12-2007, 04:00 AM
they messed up om snakeeyes v2... all they did was change his head from v1 ... they should of made him just like the orginal v2... with his ankle packs & all

tile_mcgillus
10-12-2007, 07:29 AM
I love the 25th but...

Lady Jaye's head sculpt is kinda bad.

Serpentor's face and meh costume leave a lot to be desired.

The just changed heads on all the SE, SS and CC are kind of upsetting along with gloveless Flint.

Other than that...AWESOME!

Shogi
10-12-2007, 07:31 AM
Oddly enough I like V2 25th Stormy (I absolutely hate the original V2) But I do have to say that Serpentor takes the cake for lamest (and I actually like Serpy) The overall color is a little bland

Compulsive Collector
10-12-2007, 08:58 AM
they messed up om snakeeyes v2... all they did was change his head from v1 ... they should of made him just like the orginal v2... with his ankle packs & all See, that's just too picky for me. I love the 25th v2 Snake-Eyes, and I honestly don't have a single complaint about it.

As for the worst of the line, that's easily Serpentor. He's a weak design, weak sculpt, and weak character, so he's just made of lose.

Phorpus
10-12-2007, 09:34 AM
Gung Ho.

Although it might be because I have a shoddy figure, but he can't stand well on the peg, his legs are floppy, his neck is loose, and he can't even hold the gun he came with.

Gung.Heaux
10-12-2007, 09:45 AM
Lady Jaye and the Red Ninja...neither of which i own.
lady jaye is just a horrific sculpt...and im not dropping even a measly $5 on another head-swap.

as far as figs i own...probably scarlett.

Gung.Heaux
10-12-2007, 09:47 AM
Gung Ho.

Although it might be because I have a shoddy figure, but he can't stand well on the peg, his legs are floppy, his neck is loose, and he can't even hold the gun he came with.

despite all the problems with Ettienne...he has a great sculpt.

Gung.Heaux
10-12-2007, 09:49 AM
I actually really dig Duke. He's got to be in my top 3 or 4, up there with V1 Snake Eyes, V1 Storm Shadow and Beach Head. But to answer your question, I despise Serpentor the most. The only thing I even remotely like about him is the broad sword. I also really dislike the V2 Storm Shadow. But, to be honest, I never liked those characters (I consider "Joe" Storm Shadow to be lame) or the old figures to begin with, so there might be an unfair bias built in there.

except for the "suicide slashes" on duke's wrists, i like him much better than the "vintage" duke.
and i never view "joe" stormshadow as a joe. thats an arctic mission stormshadow to me.

tkprime
10-12-2007, 09:50 AM
Lady Jaye (in my mind she sould be sexy as hell, but the figure just is too bland, c'mon design people make her more SEXY!!!!!

tile_mcgillus
10-12-2007, 10:27 AM
I think it was the ridiculous and HUGE eyes that make her look bad compared to Scarlett. Even then all the girls seem to have really big jaws.

The Fridge
10-12-2007, 10:45 AM
Gung Ho.

Although it might be because I have a shoddy figure, but he can't stand well on the peg, his legs are floppy, his neck is loose, and he can't even hold the gun he came with.
The grenade launcher that came with Gung Ho looked like it would be cool, but both of mine fell apart immediately out of the package, as did Scarlett's cross bow. I think all of the figures are pretty cool, but Serpentor is my least favorite.

Tin_Trencher
10-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Although I haven't gotten her yet, Lady Jaye seems to be the most wacky. Her hat is really high on the head and hair sticks out weirdly. I actually like the comic pack Jaye better than what I've seen of this one.

I guess Zartan's eyes will need fixing whenever I see him also.

So far I've liked the looks of both Storm Shadows the most, except for the right hand, it takes a bit of skill to keep a sword in it.

The Air Trooper is the most fun of the troopers because you get two helmets, and it looks different than the other troops. I have been wondering if the jet pack is a repaint of the Starduster and Grand Slam con figures.

Shogi
10-12-2007, 01:13 PM
I have been wondering if the jet pack is a repaint of the Starduster and Grand Slam con figures.

It would have to be a retool since the peg on the Con sets would have to fit into ARAH joes backs and the Air Trooper jump has a long skinny peg that's designed for the 25th figures

Tin_Trencher
10-12-2007, 01:17 PM
It would have to be a retool since the peg on the Con sets would have to fit into ARAH joes backs and the Air Trooper jump has a long skinny peg that's designed for the 25th figures

That's right, I forgot about that tidbit. Shouldn't be much of a change though, but you're right.

Xerofall
10-12-2007, 01:39 PM
Actually, I'm not all that impressed with my Cobra 5 pack.

Destro. He can't hold anything in his left hand. That's lame. His side holster doesn't hold his pistol very well and his briefcase wont stay shut.

Cobra Commander: His left hand is a fist (Looks good as a display, but not for play.) and his face plate was scratched in the package.

Stormshadow: His swords were all bent and his hands will not hold them, they keep falling out.

Baroness: She's loose. (Good for a woman, but not good for a toy, haha.) Her backpack keeps falling off too.

Cobra Soldier: No complaints with him...

Monkeywrench
10-12-2007, 04:35 PM
My least favorite of what I own is Baroness.

OUTBACK
10-12-2007, 05:30 PM
all they had to do was make his eyebrows a bit more "menacing" looking, like slant them downwards, and it would have been a success.

ps - a cowl, or "hood" behind his head like the '86 vintage figure would be perfect!

Gung.Heaux
10-13-2007, 02:29 AM
Destro. He can't hold anything in his left hand. That's lame. His side holster doesn't hold his pistol very well and his briefcase wont stay shut.



i love the destro figure, hes the main reason i dropped the $25 on that pack---great sculpt...BUT...guilty on all the above charges!

i had to put an Xacto to his left hand to get that briefcase in his hand--alot of Xacto at that......i had to put a small nail through the briefcase to keep it closed and his classic gun has to keep permanent residence in his right hand. the other gun is in a box with many other accessories that just werent working right...back packs, ammobelts, knives that interfered with waist movement.
Yeah, im talking to you stormshadow.

DarthBrett
10-13-2007, 11:59 AM
Hmmmmm. My least fave figs are Satan (Red Ninja), the Airborne Trooper and both black Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow from the Cobra Legions 5-pack.

General Scarlett
10-13-2007, 12:13 PM
I'm going to have to go with Lady Jaye's head sculpt and Serpentor's face.........not diggin' either one....at the very least, Lady Jaye's hat should have been able to come off....and Serpentor shouldn't be looking like he just took one in his diaper crotch......

Kalibus
10-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I must say Serpentors face ruins the whole figure. Lady Jay looks a little to "butch" and i hate how all the females seem to suffer from scoliosis. Other than that im really digging all the figs so far.

Shogi
10-13-2007, 02:59 PM
i hate how all the females seem to suffer from scoliosis.

Do you mean because the neck is molded in a forward leaning position, or because the upper torso doesn't move back far enough? If it's the latter, you just have to force it a bit, the torso joints are pretty sticky just out of the package

ceraurus
10-13-2007, 03:19 PM
Do you mean because the neck is molded in a forward leaning position, or because the upper torso doesn't move back far enough? If it's the latter, you just have to force it a bit, the torso joints are pretty sticky just out of the package

Hey, you're right. That helps a bit. I think Baroness is the weakest figure, but I also dislike Serpentor's face and Cobra Commander's wee little head.

Kalibus
10-13-2007, 03:27 PM
Do you mean because the neck is molded in a forward leaning position, or because the upper torso doesn't move back far enough?

Both reasons. I will try forcing the torso back and see if that helps. Thanks for the tip.

CaptainDinobot
10-13-2007, 03:32 PM
I haven't seen the Lady Jaye in person so, so far I'm going with Baroness. Pretty much the rest I'm pleased with.

CrazyBones
10-13-2007, 05:57 PM
I have to go with the Baroness as well. If you leave her on card, she is fine, but as a figure and from a playable point of view...she is pretty lame.

the_loud_master
10-13-2007, 06:05 PM
Although I haven't gotten her yet, Lady Jaye seems to be the most wacky. Her hat is really high on the head and hair sticks out weirdly. I actually like the comic pack Jaye better than what I've seen of this one.

I guess Zartan's eyes will need fixing whenever I see him also.

So far I've liked the looks of both Storm Shadows the most, except for the right hand, it takes a bit of skill to keep a sword in it.

The Air Trooper is the most fun of the troopers because you get two helmets, and it looks different than the other troops. I have been wondering if the jet pack is a repaint of the Starduster and Grand Slam con figures.
my joe stormy holds both swords just fine.

i wish snakes had a sheath for the sword.

scarlett needs a holster.

baroness needs to stop banging destro.

destro needs hand sugery

roadblocks helmet keeps falliing

dukes elbows are effed up

xhairs
10-13-2007, 07:56 PM
I love the 25th but...

Lady Jaye's head sculpt is kinda bad.

Serpentor's face and meh costume leave a lot to be desired.

The just changed heads on all the SE, SS and CC are kind of upsetting along with gloveless Flint.

Other than that...AWESOME!

im with you on this my man.

b24sharky
10-13-2007, 09:37 PM
Serpentor has to be the worst of the bunch so far. Here is what I would of added to some of the figures:

Lady Jaye-Removable hat, video camera like the original and a new face

Snake Eyes V2-Backpack to hold sword

Gung Ho-Removable hat

Serpentor- Sheath for sword and a sidearm

Buzzer-Sidearm with holster

Storm Shadow-Nunchuks and claw for V2

Duke- Backpack like original

Roadblock-Sidearm with holster

Scarlett and Baroness-Removable pistols

Zartan-Bow like he had in the comic

Shin Densetsu
10-14-2007, 12:56 AM
So far its a toss up between Duke and Gungho. Gungho's inability to hold his shotgun in a more aesthetically pleasing position, and Duke's difficulty in holding weapons in his left hand. Sad to say, because otherwise Duke is a solid figure, mobility hindrances aside.

Razerwire
10-14-2007, 01:23 AM
Here's how I rank mine:

1. Beach Head
2. Firefly
3. Storm Shadow (Joe not Cobra)
4. Snake Eyes
5. Flint
6. Stalker
7. Cobra Commander
8. Cobra Trooper
9. Cobra Officer
10. Buzzer
11. Zartan
12. Shipwreck
13. Lady Jaye
14. Serpentor

Funnel Rat
10-15-2007, 12:27 PM
I wish generally the hands were molded a little more similar like the classic line was. I find trying to mix and match weapons just doesnt work so well.

The closed hands drive me nuts! Destro has 4 guns and a briefcase with one workable hand?

swafus
10-15-2007, 01:34 PM
I'd say the worst fig so far is without a doubt serpentor. He's the only one I don't have and it's because I left him hanging on the peg! I can deal with the silly double knife thingy and the devils due updated costume but with a head sculpt that makes him look like the IT guy at my office and no sidearm and holster I just have to pass. the comic 3 pack serpentor was 5 times better! A close tie for second would be "lunch-lady" jaye or baroness. I think baroness gets the advantage of at least being mildly attractive but "lunch-lady" jaye has that hideous head sculpt and the non removable hat. plus the one I bought has a lazy eye too!

if i wanted to nit-pick i would complain about the v2 snake eyes being gray and not black! that is worse than the yellow stalker to me! also they really have to just stop with the closed fist thing. it was fine on CC but destro and shipwreck are handicapped by this?

Omegawrath
10-15-2007, 03:44 PM
Am I the only one who likes Serpentor's head?
Of course, I'm one of those who believed Serpentor was best left dead anyway.

I like Lady Jaye's sculpt, though I do agree we need a new hatless head for her.

I was going to say that Shipwreck was my least fave because of his horrible pain job, but I guess that's a quality control issue and I expect that it will be corrected (as with wall-eyed Zartan).

Destro's hands drive me nuts. THat, and I was really hoping for a headsculpt that more closely resembled the mask in his file picture.

Interesting that others are having Gung-Ho issues. I thought the loose legs on mine were a fluke.

Is it me or does Roadblock have kind of a pointy head?

And why do he and the Joe version of Stormy have blue eyes??

All that said, I think the Baroness is the big bust for this line so far (absolutely no pun intended). I tried to seat her in the back of a HISS II and I had to sprawl her, legs spread wide, across the middle of the troop compartment. If she's just standing ther fine, but she's no woman of action.

shramj
10-17-2007, 10:48 AM
Serpentor, Lady Jaye, Gung Ho are my least favorite.

Tomax & Xamot
10-19-2007, 08:41 PM
Personally I haven't seen enough of the 25 line personally to have a least fav figure yet!!! :)

C.I.A.D.
10-19-2007, 08:59 PM
I'd have to say Serpentor. Although I like the figure, I would have preferred to have a v1 version of the figure rather than the updated DDP version of the figure. Whereas all the other releases so far pay homage to an original (sans the legions pack), DDP Serps looks like something that would've been better received by fans if it were released later on down the road.

Omegawrath
10-24-2007, 10:56 PM
I'd have to say Serpentor. Although I like the figure, I would have preferred to have a v1 version of the figure rather than the updated DDP version of the figure. Whereas all the other releases so far pay homage to an original (sans the legions pack), DDP Serps looks like something that would've been better received by fans if it were released later on down the road.
I feel the same way about DDP Zartan. I like the figure, but I want one done in the original style.

artiepants
10-25-2007, 05:43 PM
my least favorite are 'Cobra Legions' Black Commander and DD Storm Shadow, because that cou'd have been a red Ninja, a Crimson Guardsmen or another Officer. CC and SS are getting NO shortage of releases, do we really need these 2? and it's a "legion" pack which says troop builders to me. :p

Next would be Serpentor. just seems like a waste of a slot, I thought he was generally hated. and it seems unlikely many of his parts can be re-used for other characters.

Plus, he's easy to pick on as the prime vector for when the 80s line started to jump the shark.:p

lastely is Lady Jaye. jus not very good, and kind of a boring character (imo) i would like to see a comic pack down the road of her with a new hatless head and Flint with fixed arms...

of the ones i own (CL5P CC and SS notwithstanding) Baroness is the only one i'm dissatisfied with (aside from the articlation issues they all have) and she's still pretty decent for display.

C.I.A.D.
10-25-2007, 05:53 PM
My least favorite? Wave 5 Destro.

Why? Because I don't own him yet! :p

Snowjob00
11-06-2007, 12:11 AM
I think Serpentor is a lame character in general, but that is just me.

I also wasn't impressed with the Baroness' head sculpt. The way the hair was molded onto her head just seems to get in the way of it being in a natural position. Too bad because she is one of my favorite characters.

I don't own the Lady Jay figure but she looks very boring. Her hat needs to go for sure. Being a sculptor myself I think she needs to be revamped!!

CG76
11-06-2007, 12:56 AM
Gung Ho seems too loose for me. The dude can hardly stand on his own.

prowl
11-06-2007, 09:38 AM
I would have to say Gung-ho's sculpt. He looks more like Jesse Ventura, and not so much like the cajun guy from Apocalypse Now (which I'm sure was an inspiration), and what's the deal with his hat? If he's a Marine, why isn't he wearing his eight-point hat? I don't even recognize his headgear. Probably sculpted by the same militaria 'expert' who decided all cobra soldiers should use sniper rifles and the lower enlisted ranks carry handguns.

Second least farorite would be Baroness, mostly for her poor hairsculpt and goggle glasses.

CelticViking
11-06-2007, 04:05 PM
Serpentor and the Red Ninja. Never cared for old Serpy and I never cared for the focus on the ninja stuff. I would rather have seen a Viper or something more iconic with this line than the ninja.

Deefuzz
11-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Easily Lady Jaye.

The figure looked so horrible, it was the only one I haven't bought.

Paul
11-06-2007, 05:28 PM
Lady Jaye for sure. They should have made her look the the cartoon version sans hat.

Ahhhh Lady Jaye...

Sorry about that.

Shin-Gouki
11-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Bob from Accounting....I mean Serpentor

artiepants
11-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Serpentor and the Red Ninja. Never cared for old Serpy and I never cared for the focus on the ninja stuff. I would rather have seen a Viper or something more iconic with this line than the ninja.
I'd say the Red Ninja was done primarily because it was an easy repaint (with minor remold), and was a key 'missing' figure from the original line (and it just looks frigign' great :p) ~ and rumor has it the Viper is coming in 2008 wave 3...

Monkeywrench
11-07-2007, 01:53 PM
I own all the figs that are available and my least favorite is the Black CC.

CobraSaboteur
11-07-2007, 01:57 PM
My least favorites are Baroness, her body is too skinny or something, Serpentor..he just doesn't look mean enough, and Lady Jaye, she looks like a slut with all that lip stick. haha. I wish they would have done them 3 better. But the rest of the line is pretty awesome!