people asking to much for s+h on ebay

[supercmen]

im getting tired of people on ebay asking high s+h for losse g i joes
and thy put them in a envelope with little protection i usually try to buy from the same sealer when i buy a lot so thy usually ask around $3-5 for the first figure and about $1-1.50 for any other additional figures so i usually just pay it but it starting to piss me off like the last
sealer asked 4.89 for the 1st and 1.95 for the 2nd and i got like 4 figures so that like $12.96 so when i got them in the mail the sticker
said $3.64 so he made $9.32 off of me and then i tried to ask for a
refund but he never answered and i just got 5 today and the guys asking 8.50 for 5

[carnage717]

im getting tired of people on ebay asking high s+h for losse g i joes
and thy put them in a envelope with little protection i usually try to buy from the same sealer when i buy a lot so thy usually ask around $3-5 for the first figure and about $1-1.50 for any other additional figures so i usually just pay it but it starting to piss me off like the last
sealer asked 4.89 for the 1st and 1.95 for the 2nd and i got like 4 figures so that like $12.96 so when i got them in the mail the sticker
said $3.64 so he made $9.32 off of me and then i tried to ask for a
refund but he never answered and i just got 5 today and the guys asking 8.50 for 5

Just leave them negative feedback on ebay then, theres really nothing the seller can do about it now except leave you a positive feedback with some crappy remarks in it.

[Roadblock Recall]

then don't bid as high. you should have an amount in your head that you are willing to pay for purchase+shipping. Take that number from your head, subtract the amount the person is charging for shipping, and the result of that equation should be what you put in as your max bid.

It should make no difference to your wallet.

[mikeTime]

It's never ending. That's why I stay away from the bay and try to get what I need locally and from places like this. Good luck I feel for ya.

[Agent-GHQ]

What the heck is a "Sealer?"

As for your topic, why not ask the seller prior to placing a bid? If they don't want to work with you, then move on.

[coola784]

stay away from people that charge a arm and a leg for shipping. if someone charges more then 4.00 for the first figure then wants more then 1.00 for the next figure and so on i dont even buy from them. you live and you learn.

[The Albino Ice-Snake]

Please Remember that many eBay Sellers have more costs than you see.

*They pay eBay to list the Item

*They pay a % of the final sale price to eBay

*They pay % of Total Cash Amount to Paypal

*They pay for the packaging materials

*They spend time packaging the item and waiting at the Post office

* If they overcharge on shipping, the highest bid will be less because over 95 % of ebay buyers calculate the total cost before they bid. This also gives the seller more and eBay less.

I understand what you are Saying....
But the seller is not getting the same amount that you are Paying.

[numb007]

I don't pre-buy packaging stuff to ship with. So I have to buy everything when I go to the post office to ship something on ebay. So postage for an item may be 3.49$ but if I have to buy an envelope or a box for X$ then shipping and handling will be
$3.49 + $X. That is why I think some shipping prices are so high on ebay.

[jaxscorpio]

It's never ending. That's why I stay away from the bay and try to get what I need locally and from places like this. Good luck I feel for ya.

Amen! If I can't find something at a local store, I'll just do without.

[HOOSFN]

I don't pre-buy packaging stuff to ship with. So I have to buy everything when I go to the post office to ship something on ebay. So postage for an item may be 3.49$ but if I have to buy an envelope or a box for X$ then shipping and handling will be
$3.49 + $X. That is why I think some shipping prices are so high on ebay.

You can get boxes free from post office or the usps website I also find good boxes at the dollar tree and free newspapers to pack with there and the local newspaper place. You can also get bubblers at the dollar tree 2 for $1. My post office loves me i come in had them the box and it is on it's way. I also print shipping labels on paypal to save money. I am just trying to save you some time and out of pocket money

[supercmen]

well the thing is thy don't even have it in there listing have much its gonna be for s+h some times i forget to ask i just don't expect to
to pay $10.00 for 4 figures would you the seller's always gets
offended when your trying not to let them make extra money off you

[Zefram]

I just got four figs loose from an ebay auction this morning. I paid out the ass for a BAT, but thankfully the guy only charged like $2.50 for the first fig, and $0.50 for each additional. It made the hurt a little less.

[mfjlf2]

As long as the s&h is stated clearly up front, there shouldn't be an issue. If you have buyer's remorse afterwards because you got carried away bidding while ignoring the s&h, that's your fault.

[supercmen]

and it not up to the buyer to pay for there listing fee isn't that agents ebays rules and the envelope thy send it in is like 25 50 cents the s+h is like $2-3 some times lower

[DOC]

I add every and any fee to my auction.......So NW I'm an ass because I find ways to cut my bottom line Expenses? Grow up people! If the seller does not indicate there shipping charges and or is to expensive, DON'T BID!!! Sounds like an easy solution to me.

[Gunzlingr]

I have had 2 that were marked free shipping, then in the small print it said no free shipping. Stupid me didn't see the small print until after I got the invoice and complained :mad:

The last one I bought was for 3 loose figs including a straight arm SE with combined shipping. Shipping was more than the 3 auctions (and a whopping $2 off the separate shippings), I complained and they lowered it $2 only to have them arrive parcel post in a tiny padded envelope with $1.85 worth of postage. I complained and they said it was too bad, because the auctions were so cheap. If you don't want the stuff to sell for .99 don't list it at .99.

My other beef is when you win something (I won an auction for an mms missing 2 missiles and stand), they gouge for shipping, then they come broken. This guy said, "I would offer you your money back minus shipping but it isn't worth it". Definite neg on this one.

When I sell I consider what the ebay fees are, and 95% of the time I use Priority mail, because the box and materials are free, and you get free delivery confirmation if you use USPS.com. On the rare occaision I don't ship priority, I use boxes from around the house or work (or get one free from the store). The excuse about materials costing so much to justify outrageous shipping is crap in my opinion.

[DOC]

I have had 2 that were marked free shipping, then in the small print it said no free shipping. Stupid me didn't see the small print until after I got the invoice and complained :mad:

The last one I bought was for 3 loose figs including a straight arm SE with combined shipping. Shipping was more than the 3 auctions (and a whopping $2 off the separate shippings), I complained and they lowered it $2 only to have them arrive parcel post in a tiny padded envelope with $1.85 worth of postage. I complained and they said it was too bad, because the auctions were so cheap. If you don't want the stuff to sell for .99 don't list it at .99.

My other beef is when you win something (I won an auction for an mms missing 2 missiles and stand), they gouge for shipping, then they come broken. This guy said, "I would offer you your money back minus shipping but it isn't worth it". Definite neg on this one.

When I sell I consider what the ebay fees are, and 95% of the time I use Priority mail, because the box and materials are free, and you get free delivery confirmation if you use USPS.com. On the rare occaision I don't ship priority, I use boxes from around the house or work (or get one free from the store). The excuse about materials costing so much to justify outrageous shipping is crap in my opinion.

The Hole Free Shipping/ NO free shipping thing sounds like a Scam to me! you can contact ebay about that and the Broken item. It may take awhile but they will look into it.

[Zefram]

You're gonna start to see a shift now that sellers can't leave neg feedback. @$$hole sellers are gonna have a little harder time getting away with their shenanigans.

[DOC]

You're gonna start to see a shift now that sellers can't leave neg feedback. @$$hole sellers are gonna have a little harder time getting away with their shenanigans.

That has been in use for a little while now no? People are still jacking shipping prices and doing shady deals. I see bid's on seller that have 90-81% feedback people still use these guys for what ever reason.

[hectorxd]

Please Remember that many eBay Sellers have more costs than you see.

*They pay eBay to list the Item

*They pay a % of the final sale price to eBay

*They pay % of Total Cash Amount to Paypal

*They pay for the packaging materials

*They spend time packaging the item and waiting at the Post office

* If they overcharge on shipping, the highest bid will be less because over 95 % of ebay buyers calculate the total cost before they bid. This also gives the seller more and eBay less.

I understand what you are Saying....
But the seller is not getting the same amount that you are Paying.

All those fees are the price of selling something on ebay. If you have an item and you want to sell it, what do you do, put it out in your yard and hope someone wants it? You will get far less for that item. If you put it on ebay and people want it they will pay more for it than someone at a yard sale. You gots to pay to sell. That shouldnt be added to the shipping amount. I dont know why Im trying to convince you though after seeing your auctions. :)

[Gaelinic]

im getting tired of people on ebay asking high s+h for losse g i joes
and thy put them in a envelope with little protection i usually try to buy from the same sealer when i buy a lot so thy usually ask around $3-5 for the first figure and about $1-1.50 for any other additional figures so i usually just pay it but it starting to piss me off like the last
sealer asked 4.89 for the 1st and 1.95 for the 2nd and i got like 4 figures so that like $12.96 so when i got them in the mail the sticker
said $3.64 so he made $9.32 off of me and then i tried to ask for a
refund but he never answered and i just got 5 today and the guys asking 8.50 for 5

Dude, it's shipping and handling. That includes the box, tape, driving to the post office, and the time to pack everything you bought.

Recently I decided to unload some of the "crap" I've collected over the years. I was a little flabbergasted by how little some of this crap really is worth. Anyway, I tried to make some money through shipping to cover the costs associated with ebay (something like 8.75%) and paypal. It took me a good 30 minutes for item to form the boxes, tape them, pack the insides, and then ship the thing priority mail. It cost me $1 less in shipping then what I charged. Some stuff can cost more.

I came to the conclusion that it's not worth selling stuff on ebay unless I'm making at least 2-3 times what it cost me to get.

[Daywalker]

All those fees are the price of selling something on ebay. If you have an item and you want to sell it, what do you do, put it out in your yard and hope someone wants it? You will get far less for that item. If you put it on ebay and people want it they will pay more for it than someone at a yard sale. You gots to pay to sell. That shouldnt be added to the shipping amount. I dont know why Im trying to convince you though after seeing your auctions. :)

Sellers will ALWAYS pass expenses off on the buyer. Blame Ebay not sellers. I sell mainly Transformers now but when I dealt in Joes it was 4.00 then $1 each additional. If you bought 4 figures for say $10.00 from me that would have been $17.00. One envelope is $1.50-$2 if you buy bulk, paypal take their fee of a $1.00 Ebay take at least $1 and it costs about $2-3 for shipping. So I made 17$ but had to pay $7 in fees and such AND not to mention my time handling and gas.

Should I just charge actual shipping of $2.00 so instead of making $10 dollars on 4 figures I make $5 off 4 figures? Sorry but no. Sellers have had to up their fees to make any profit.

[mynamehere]

I agree with Roadblock Recall. You should always know how much *total* you are willing to pay then subtract the shipping cost to figure your max bid. If not, that is your mistake. No one ever complains about "free" shipping listings on ebay. Yeah maybe some sellers do overcharge, but shipping is not "free" either for the seller, so it goes both ways. Just adjust your max bid accordingly, you should bid lower when shipping cost is high, and you can bid higher when shipping cost is low. Also, you can easily sort ebay listings by "price+shipping".

If you've ever tried to sell on ebay, you'd probably understand more. Ebay takes almost 9% of every sale under $25, paypal takes almost 3%. That is close to 12% total of sale off the top from the seller. There is also ebay listing fee that is tiered based on starting listing price, so it costs seller less to list at a lower start price. Important to note that the shipping/handling cost is not used to calculate the ebay fees. So by lowering the listing start price and adding it back into the shipping/handling cost, seller doesn't have to pay as much fees to ebay. For example if seller needs to sell a figure for at least $5 total to cover their costs, it would cost them less in ebay fees to list $.99 start and $4 shipping/handling, versus list $2.99 start and $2 shipping/handling. But either way, its the same exact total for the buyer. If you noticed there were more "free" shipping listings recently because ebay was really pushing and promoting it. Why? Because ebay makes more money in fees with the "free" shipping. Sometimes ebay is a necessary evil, so when I sell stuff I estimate the ebay/paypal fees and stick that into the shipping/handling cost. With gas prices now the trip to the post office isn't cheap either.

[Pyroclasm]

If you have a problem with the s&h costs, don't bid.
If the s&h costs are outrageously high, such as $15 for 1st class shipping of a loose figure, report the auction to ebay. (It's called fee evasion.)
Seek out auctions with smaller shipping rates. I buy loose figures off ebay often, and look for s&h costs of about $2-$3 with $.50 or $1.00 each additional.
On top of that, as has already been suggested, subtract the shipping from the value of the item to get your maximum bid.
That is how I typically buy loose figures for about $4 a piece including s&h.
It isn't impossible to buy off of ebay without being gouged. Just bid smartly.

[The Albino Ice-Snake]

HectorXD,

What a Joke.
I am not saying that eBay should be free.
I am just saying that the seller does not get the same amount you pay.

Like many other people said...

You are in control of if you decide to bid on something.
A person must Add the bid price to the shipping and make a decision for themselves. There is no reason you have to bid.

I have a wife, a son, a career and various interests that keep me busy. eBay is just something I do on the side. To me the time I spend packaging and going to the post office is Money.

Oh yea, Shipping materials are Not Free. Priority materials are free. You should go to your local Post Office and grab a dozen "Regular" shipping boxes and envelopes, wave to the cashier and then walk out with the materials. Really, You should do it.

I have never had any trouble selling my goods.
And even if YOU can not afford a buyers price someone else can. The majority of ebay shoppers are smart enough to add the shipping before bidding.

I have 100 % feedback on eBay with over 900 transactions.

WOW, I MUST BE RIPPING people OFF!

HectorXD , Get A Life. LOL

-------------------------------------------
Take A Look

2 sellers have the SAME item for sale.

Seller 1 wants 5.00 for shipping/handling
Seller 2 Wants 10.00 for shipping/handling

Seller 1 auction ends at 10.00
Seller 2 auction ends at 5.00

The 2 people who won these auctions PAYED THE EXACT SAME TOTAL PRICE.


So What is the problem for the Buyer ?


IN THE END YOU DECIDE what you are willing to pay.


Lets Try to Keep it positive guys.

YOOOOOOOOOO JOE!

[Gunzlingr]

I don't have a problem with people making a bit on the backend, my problem is with those that rape you because their item didn't sell for enough by sending it to you parcel post instead of Priority or free like it said. I wouldn't have complained if the person selling my figures actually packaged them instead of throwing them in an envelope and shipping them the cheapest way possible. Same with the MMS guy, had he not just put the pieces loose in the box with no packing I might feel differently.

[HOOSFN]

I don't have a problem with people making a bit on the backend, my problem is with those that rape you because their item didn't sell for enough by sending it to you parcel post instead of Priority or free like it said. I wouldn't have complained if the person selling my figures actually packaged them instead of throwing them in an envelope and shipping them the cheapest way possible. Same with the MMS guy, had he not just put the pieces loose in the box with no packing I might feel differently.

Also the thing is you only save maybe 50 cent shipping it parcel post instead of Priority. I like the ones that sell sports card for 5.00 shipping and it does only cost a 1.85 at the most

[jaxscorpio]

Also the thing is you only save maybe 50 cent shipping it parcel post instead of Priority. I like the ones that sell sports card for 5.00 shipping and it does only cost a 1.85 at the most

...and it may cost them $3.15 (or more) to drive down to the post office and mail that sports card to you. Gas isn't cheap, particularly if you live some place like rural Georgia where everything is half a world away. A seller shouldn't be forced to lose money on gas, etc. just to sell an item.

[RuckusJr]

My current ebay bill is $62 for listings and back-end fees from sold items. I calculate fees from ebay and Paypal in my Shipping and Handling. More times than not, I end up using some of the item price to send the item to the buyer on top of the S&H fee I charge, but I don't come on here bitching about how I'm getting screwed by ebay or Paypal. I just deal with it.

[hectorxd]

HectorXD,

What a Joke.
I am not saying that eBay should be free.
I am just saying that the seller does not get the same amount you pay.

Like many other people said...

You are in control of if you decide to bid on something.
A person must Add the bid price to the shipping and make a decision for themselves. There is no reason you have to bid.

I have a wife, a son, a career and various interests that keep me busy. eBay is just something I do on the side. I make about $20 an hour at my job so to me TIME IS MONEY. Unlike you MY TIME IS Valuable. The time I spend packaging and going to the post office is Money.

I have never had any trouble selling my goods.
And even if YOU can not afford a buyers price someone else can.

I have 100 % feedback on eBay with over 900 transactions.

WOW, I MUST BE RIPPING people OFF!

Brian AKA Hector, Get A Life. LOL



wow, you really didnt address anything that I said. You just insulted me and tried to belittle me. Thats neat of you. You make a lot of assumptions in your post that dont really make sense. Im sorry you got so confused and hurt by what I said.

[hamilcar]

if the shipping cost is clearly stated in the auction description/listing somewhere, and the seller does not change the shipping fee to a higher amount after the auction is complete, i don't see how anyone could have cause for complaint. if a bidder thinks the shipping charge is too high, than they just shouldn't bid on it.

that being said, i don't particularly agree with a seller charging an inflated shipping price just as an "insurance policy" in case the item doesn't sell for a high amount (and in my ongoing process of selling off the lion's share of my loose figure collection, i have certainly not done so), but i don't think there is anything fraudulent going on if they do so. high shipping fees can always be justified with enough thought put into it.

[mikeTime]

...and it may cost them $3.15 (or more) to drive down to the post office and mail that sports card to you. Gas isn't cheap, particularly if you live some place like rural Georgia where everything is half a world away. A seller shouldn't be forced to lose money on gas, etc. just to sell an item.

Yes, but how else does the seller expect to get an Item to a buyer? Sellers know what they are getting in to. I don't care how much any one makes per hour or what the price of gas is and how far away things are. If your gonna include things like this in your handling charges you should state it clearly. I think a little rationality is all the buyer wants to see when it comes to rising shipping costs. That whole cost of doing business thing is a tricky subject, but it always has the same solution. Costs are always passed on to the consumer. Good luck with the bay, I choose to stay away.

[bram1216]

If you pay $2 for a figure then 15$ for shipping.You just paid 17$ for a figure.I always add my shipping in when making a purchase off ebay.When I sell I try to keep shipping resonable,but it cost me 3-5 dollars to shipa couple loose figures,or 5-10$ for 2-6 carded figures.And that doesn't include time or gas.It cost me almost 7$ this week to ship a comic pack to a fellow tanker.

[The Albino Ice-Snake]

I understand where thread starter is coming from.
When someone says one amount then changes it that is lame.

BUT For anybody still pissed about this:

Buyers should be smart enough to add the amounts before Bidding. Take a Look....

2 sellers have the SAME item for sale.

Seller 1 wants 5.00 for shipping/handling
Seller 2 Wants 10.00 for shipping/handling

Seller 1 auction ends at 10.00
Seller 2 auction ends at 5.00

The 2 people who won these auctions PAYED THE EXACT SAME TOTAL PRICE.


So What is the problem for the Buyer ?


IN THE END YOU DECIDE what you are willing to pay.


Lets Try to Keep it positive guys.

YOOOOOOOOOO JOE!

[jaxscorpio]

if the shipping cost is clearly stated in the auction description/listing somewhere, and the seller does not change the shipping fee to a higher amount after the auction is complete, i don't see how anyone could have cause for complaint. if a bidder thinks the shipping charge is too high, than they just shouldn't bid on it.

that being said, i don't particularly agree with a seller charging an inflated shipping price just as an "insurance policy" in case the item doesn't sell for a high amount (and in my ongoing process of selling off the lion's share of my loose figure collection, i have certainly not done so), but i don't think there is anything fraudulent going on if they do so. high shipping fees can always be justified with enough thought put into it.

If the shipping price is stated up front then I do not see the problem. As a buyer it's up to you to decide if the item is worth the price of the auction + the shipping costs. Noone is forcing you to bid on the items. If you think the fees and costs are too high, don't bid. Just wait for the item to come around again in another auction. Trust me, you are not going to die tomorrow if you do not get that plastic GI Joe with the retarded viper grip today.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Please Remember that many eBay Sellers have more costs than you see.

*They pay eBay to list the Item

*They pay a % of the final sale price to eBay

*They pay % of Total Cash Amount to Paypal

*They pay for the packaging materials

*They spend time packaging the item and waiting at the Post office

* If they overcharge on shipping, the highest bid will be less because over 95 % of ebay buyers calculate the total cost before they bid. This also gives the seller more and eBay less.

I understand what you are Saying....
But the seller is not getting the same amount that you are Paying.

Then they should find another source of income, I for one refuse to eat the cost of someone elses "fees".

[Headman]

Then they should find another source of income, I for one refuse to eat the cost of someone elses "fees".

I disagree with this. In all forms of business the added expenses are passed along to the consumer. Why should the seller eat the extra costs if they are able to find a willing party to pay it for them? I mean nobody is forcing you to bid on these auctions.

[Roadblock Recall]

Then they should find another source of income, I for one refuse to eat the cost of someone elses "fees".


just bid up to what you're willing to pay, keeping the shipping cost in mind. what does it matter who the money goes to, whether it's eating costs, ebay fees, whatever...you aren't losing out on one penny more.

[HOOSFN]

...and it may cost them $3.15 (or more) to drive down to the post office and mail that sports card to you. Gas isn't cheap, particularly if you live some place like rural Georgia where everything is half a world away. A seller shouldn't be forced to lose money on gas, etc. just to sell an item.


How much gas does it cost to walk to your mailbox after you print the shipping label from paypal? Which is what most do now I mean print the label. I agree I don't think you should lose money as seller but also say they sell 10 cards with the shipping profit at 3.15 per card that is 31.50 does it cost that much gas to get to the post office? And to charge a extra $2 per card that they are putting in the same bubbler. I don't bid on crazy shipping price items anyways

[Headman]

It doesn't matter what the seller does with the added money. It's their item. They could buy crack with the extra shipping money for all I care. The point is they cover their bases to insure that it's worth doing business on ebay. If the items in question aren't worth that much to us we simply do not bid.

[HOOSFN]

I really like the ones that have a item for a buck and then have the shipping at anywhere from 20 to 50 bucks. You have to watch not to do the buy before reading bid.

[The Albino Ice-Snake]

I understand where thread starter is coming from.
When someone says one amount then changes it that is lame.

BUT For anybody still pissed about this:

Buyers should be smart enough to add the amounts before Bidding. Take a Look....

2 sellers have the SAME item for sale.

Seller 1 wants 5.00 for shipping/handling
Seller 2 Wants 10.00 for shipping/handling

Seller 1 auction ends at 10.00
Seller 2 auction ends at 5.00

The 2 people who won these auctions PAYED THE EXACT SAME TOTAL PRICE.


So What is the problem for the Buyer ?


IN THE END YOU DECIDE what you are willing to pay.


Lets Try to Keep it positive guys.

YOOOOOOOOOO JOE!


It's Funny that people are mad about something so simple.
Please Read Above.
Maybe Your anger and unhappiness will fade.

[darthdoug]

I LOVE when they say FREE S&H!!!

[sgtapon]

the only time i pay high shipping is when i buy something that is from overseas

[Skyhawk]

I just sold a sunroof from a 240sx to a guy in Bellingham (2hrs from where I live). It was a pain in the butt packing the thing and I used 2 rolls of tape. The shipping ended up being $13.50... I charged him 15. I had $6 just in tape and an hour packing it... I don't mind taking a little hit on some things at times.

[Headman]

It's still not brain surgery here. People will sell the item (Shipping aswell) for whatever they feel like selling it for. Some people may ask for ridiculous amounts of money and they usually end up scaring people away, while others may see the long term benefit of keeping their prices down so people come to them first for future needs. Either way, it's their choice. Our choice is how much we are willing to pay.

[Derek2783]

It's still not brain surgery here...Some people may ask for ridiculous amounts of money ... while others may see the long term benefit of keeping their prices down ... Either way, it's their choice. Our choice is how much we are willing to pay.

I couldn't have said it better myself. No buyer is entitled to a better price, and the seller shouldn't be obligated to charge more or less for any particular service or item. It's a free market, and if you don't like the price (and/or shipping cost), don't buy it. It's literally as simple as that. Asking for anything else is simply narcissism and/or socialism.

[Marc Madness]

To ship something, it is getting more and more expensive, and you have to factor in shipping materials as well as insurance and delivery confirmation.

eBay lowered the insertion fees, but they raised the final value fees. It never hurts to message the seller before you bid to see if he can come down on the shipping price.

Also, buyers can still leave negative feedback. You just have to submit it as positive feedback but you can still write anything you want

[AlternateUniverse Steeler]

i may be a little expensive on my shipping on ebay but thats because paypal demands tracking and i use only priority . i say charges up front. Its sucks because i have to factor in packing material, gas to drive to post office, and time.

International buyers do not understand that sellers have to use priority for tracking. I got ripped of by buyers "claiming" non receipt so its only priority now. =(

[Jose Castro]

You can get boxes free from post office or the usps website I also find good boxes at the dollar tree and free newspapers to pack with there and the local newspaper place. You can also get bubblers at the dollar tree 2 for $1. My post office loves me i come in had them the box and it is on it's way. I also print shipping labels on paypal to save money. I am just trying to save you some time and out of pocket money
The post office does give you free boxes,but they are for priority or flat rate. For one single figure shipped right is $3.49 and 5-8 figs is 5.65-8.49 depending on the shipping zone.

[sgtapon]

i figure it like this when i buy something off ebay if i don't like shipping i wont' bid. if i can't find another of the same item and i really really want that item then i either A. wait and hope i find it later or B. Say screw it pay the shipping so i can have the nifty cool item i want. they state the shipping price of have a little calculation deal to let you know how much shipping with cost either way. its either bid on it (and not complain) or don't bid on it lose out on the nifty little item you want and not have to "waste" money on shipping.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

I disagree with this. In all forms of business the added expenses are passed along to the consumer. Why should the seller eat the extra costs if they are able to find a willing party to pay it for them? I mean nobody is forcing you to bid on these auctions.

No, you are absolutely correct, I see that I'm being gouged on the shipping so therefore I will not bid. I'm so sorry to the cheap-o's out there but they should know the #1 rule of business, "You have to spend money to make money"! I'm not trying to pay someone else's expenses. I could really give a crap about a sob story "oh boo hoo my gas fee's and wah my box and stuffing fee's" Come off it man, we all collect crap, I know damn well alot of these boxes were not purchased, they are recycled. I recycle boxes but then again I charge fair shipping charges. I've actually been told before about why they over charge and a seller told me to cover paypal and ebat fees I cut and pasted that and sent it to ebay. I hope they banned that douche!

[supercmen]

money is not a problem for me i make lots of it.
it's just makes me mad when people try to make extra money off
of you it's like a smack in the face

[bram1216]

It's Funny that people are mad about something so simple.
Please Read Above.
Maybe Your anger and unhappiness will fade.



I was thinking the same thing.This is real basic stuff folks.

[Pyroclasm]

I've actually been told before about why they over charge and a seller told me to cover paypal and ebat fees I cut and pasted that and sent it to ebay. I hope they banned that douche!It isn't against Ebay or Paypal's rules to include enough "handling" to cover their fees.

I still don't understand why people get upset over s&h allocation. If you choose to pay $15 for an item, it shouldn't matter to you if it was $15 w/ free shipping or $1 with $14 shipping. It's still just $15. If you order from any online retailer, do you bitch at them for whatever rates they choose to charge? Ever notice how many companies charge shipping according to your cart total and not by the size of the package? Is it any different? Think of it this way: When you buy a figure at Wal-Mart, you aren't getting free shipping. Wal-Mart has already been nice enough to include your shipping and handling in their price. Does it matter to you how much of what you pay goes to the truck driver, warehouse personnel, stocker, cashier, etc? Just consider the final value and the s&h the "TOTAL" price. If that's reasonable to you, go for it. If not, move on.

[Derek2783]

No, you are absolutely correct, I see that I'm being gouged on the shipping so therefore I will not bid. I'm so sorry to the cheap-o's out there but they should know the #1 rule of business, "You have to spend money to make money"! I'm not trying to pay someone else's expenses. I could really give a crap about a sob story "oh boo hoo my gas fee's and wah my box and stuffing fee's" Come off it man, we all collect crap, I know damn well alot of these boxes were not purchased, they are recycled. I recycle boxes but then again I charge fair shipping charges. I've actually been told before about why they over charge and a seller told me to cover paypal and ebat fees I cut and pasted that and sent it to ebay. I hope they banned that douche!

See here's the thing... the seller could really give a crap about your sob story "boo hoo I deserve to get stuff for actual retail and nothing more". Come off it man, we all collect crap, and we all know that on the secondary market (or in the market in general) people want to make a profit.

it's just makes me mad when people try to make extra money off
of you it's like a smack in the face

Why would sellers on eBay NOT want to make extra money off you? Isn't that what they're in business to do? You expect them to pat you on the head and say "here, take it for free"?

[sgtapon]

See here's the thing... the seller could really give a crap about your sob story "boo hoo I deserve to get stuff for actual retail and nothing more". Come off it man, we all collect crap, and we all know that on the secondary market (or in the market in general) people want to make a profit.



Why would sellers on eBay NOT want to make extra money off you? Isn't that what they're in business to do? You expect them to pat you on the head and say "here, take it for free"?


that would be awesome if they did say "here, take it for free" but i know there not so i pay the shipping costs at least i get the product i'm looking for.

[Lightning LA]

I always add the shipping price to the price i'm willing to Pay,and if my high Bid & the Shipping add up to more than that I go to another Auction.The one good thing about evil-bay,theres alway's more Seller's with the same Item.But I have to say about 80% of the Auctions I win,the Shipping is more than the Item.And a good one was I paid almost $5 for Shipping 1 Figure,and it came in an actual Envelope.And I mean a plain White Envelope!..LOL!!!

[Jeffrozup]

As someone who sells on eBay and often offers free shipping, let me offer my two cents. I think there are some very ridiculous shipping charges out there. I have seen some people who have $9shipping price tags on a single, loose action figure. Those are the ones I have a problem with.

I have turned down many auctions where I wanted an item because I thought the shipping was too high and I will continue to do so.

As for the people who use Buy It Now with items for like $5 and have $45 shipping charges, all they are doing is illegally auctioning their items and lowering their eBay fees since nothing is taken from the total price just the sale price.

I have sold quite a few items here on hisstank and also on eBay and I believe in providing a fair price when it comes to shipping. I realize some items you cannot avoid this with and I do my best to give the exact amount when it comes to shipping. I offer a refund on excess shipping charges if it comes to more than a dollar difference to what I have charged.

[Shin-Gouki]

Ebay needs real competition. The only reason they are getting away with the raping they give sellers in fees is they are the only game in town, and thus the sellers try to make up some of that by jacking shipping prices to get around the no Vaseline job the bay gives them. Yeah there are other auction sites, buy really does anyone use them? There needs to be a real alternative.

[nighthawk]

For me, I live in Canada and it costs more for me to ship to people and I state that in my auctions. Everyone who's dealt with me here on HISStank will know that I lose money on shipping most of the time I sell stuff here just because Canadapost charges me so much to ship but if I charge exact shipping, no one will buy anything. As for bidding on Ebay auctions, I ask the seller up front and if he's not willing to give a fair shipping price, I just won't buy. Some guys think that because I live in Canada, it'll cost $10 to ship a loose figure to me. If the seller insists that it's $10, then I'll move on. Some, they said they would refund me the difference if it's a lot less than what I paid for shipping and they've always came through if they state it first. Not happy with high shipping prices, then message the seller before bidding.

[poddie]

This comes down to one simple rule:

If the shipping price and shipping method are clearly stated in the auction, THERE IS NOBODY TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF IF YOU BUY IT AND THINK YOU OVERPAID.

Are people incapable of simple math???

As has been stated by many other eBay sellers, there are so many fees that come right off the top to eBay and PayPal that many items almost aren't worth trying to sell. Shipping rates are also through the roof and can be very difficult to estimate up front, especially for someone that doesn't ship as a business.

But in the end none of that matters. If the seller is upfront and honest with you, then it is YOUR end of the deal to calculate whether the total is worth it to you or not. If not, don't buy it. If you have judged the shipping and HANDLING fees to be somehow unethical, don't buy it.

But it is NOT right for people to bid, purchase, and then leave negative feedback because the shipping was too high. If you feel that's the case then you should have bid on a different auction that has a lower shipping fee. I GAURANTEE you will pay the difference in the bidding price (on average), but if that makes you feel better for some reason then good for you.

But leaving negative feedback after the fact (if shipping was clearly stated) is like negotiating with someone to pay $20 for something and then complaining after the fact that $20 was way too much. THEN WHY DID YOU AGREE TO BUY IT??? Take some responsibility in your life people...

Why people can't get this very simple trading mechanic through their noggin is beyond me...

Obviously this has bothered me much in the past. One of the prime reasons I hate to sell on eBay and only do it when I have to. Many buyers are simply jerks who don't think ahead and then do harm to your seller rating because of their lack of understanding.

[lookinglasself]

Please Remember that many eBay Sellers have more costs than you see.

*They pay eBay to list the Item

*They pay a % of the final sale price to eBay

*They pay % of Total Cash Amount to Paypal

*They pay for the packaging materials

*They spend time packaging the item and waiting at the Post office

* If they overcharge on shipping, the highest bid will be less because over 95 % of ebay buyers calculate the total cost before they bid. This also gives the seller more and eBay less.

I understand what you are Saying....
But the seller is not getting the same amount that you are Paying.

^^ This right here. Ebay is fees upon fees upon fees.. it's ridiculous to sell there. This often is the only way for sellers to come out even on shipping.

[HOOSFN]

The post office does give you free boxes,but they are for priority or flat rate. For one single figure shipped right is $3.49 and 5-8 figs is 5.65-8.49 depending on the shipping zone.

I have found out that if you print the shipping label with Paypal it only costs 4.75 for a 1 pound boxes with the average size 12x12x8 which is the square priority box and it will be anywhere in the US for that price.

[Jose Castro]

I have found out that if you print the shipping label with Paypal it only costs 4.75 for a 1 pound boxes with the average size 12x12x8 which is the square priority box and it will be anywhere in the US for that price.
While it is cheaper to use paypal to print out the labels, the fact that the price the seller has paid for the shipping itself is hidden from actual view(its not printed on there it just states the postage was paid and still seems shady to some buyers,whom i dont blame for thinking since its thier money)if im not mistaken(maybe this has changed,idk,but still its a waste of ink/paper and on top of that i still have to ride down to the post office cause if i call for pick up i dont get a set time and lets be honest who doesnt work more than 40hrs?),and i just cant wait for the delivery guy on my day off). Hoosfn,i would really like to know though where i can get this rate of $4.75 to ship anywhere in the US via priority,can you post a link?,is that including the confirmation #?,cause i doubt that to be true unless you can open my eyes to something everyone should know about(since sending to chicago/texas or outer L.A is always a big estimate Sh$t fest for most new sellers). Please let me know.

[DOC]

I pay around $4.80 for priority mail via paypal. I just printed two orders out One was $4.75 and the other was for $7.65(insured) I'm not sure If you have tried this yet but I assure you it's is true.

[Jose Castro]

I pay around $4.80 for priority mail via paypal. I just printed two orders out One was $4.75 and the other was for $7.65(insured) I'm not sure If you have tried this yet but I assure you it's is true.
I believe that cause i have used it before,but i sell a-lot of stuff once i get it,like 100-300 items in a 3 week period,i just want to know if its guaranteed for everywhere in the states to all zones with confirmation as was stated by Hoofsn.

[DOC]

I believe that cause i have used it before,but i sell a-lot of stuff once i get it,like 100-300 items in a 3 week period,i just want to know if its guaranteed for everywhere in the states to all zones with confirmation as was stated by Hoofsn.

No it's not the same price for everywhere, Sorry about that misread your post. That would be nice if it was though.

[Jism83]

While it is cheaper to use paypal to print out the labels, the fact that the price the seller has paid for the shipping itself is hidden from actual view(its not printed on there it just states the postage was paid and still seems shady to some buyers,whom i dont blame for thinking since its thier money)if im not mistaken(maybe this has changed,idk,but still its a waste of ink/paper and on top of that i still have to ride down to the post office cause if i call for pick up i dont get a set time and lets be honest who doesnt work more than 40hrs?),and i just cant wait for the delivery guy on my day off). Hoosfn,i would really like to know though where i can get this rate of $4.75 to ship anywhere in the US via priority,can you post a link?,is that including the confirmation #?,cause i doubt that to be true unless you can open my eyes to something everyone should know about(since sending to chicago/texas or outer L.A is always a big estimate Sh$t fest for most new sellers). Please let me know.


if you buy postage through paypal, or usps.com its $4.75 with tracking # anywhere in the US for items 1 pound and under.

its no secret player, and everyone who uses ebay/paypla pretty much knows about it.

Also, on the topic there not being a price on paypal postage. There is an option you can choose to either have a price on the postage or not. I choose not to for a very good reason. Say you charge $5 for priority shipping, but on the postage it says $4.75. Then you get some wacko on ebay that will leave you a NEG and say "bad seller over charges shipping!!!" People thin sipping should be free or something, i dont get it. people also dont take into account handling, or paypal/ebay charges.

If im seeling something, why should i have to pay for these charges. The buyer wants the item, have him pay for them. Thats what we do with gi joes, and gas, and food and everything else. If a new tax comes into play, or minimum wage goes up, what happens? prices go up to cover the extra cost a company has to pay for that item.


anyways....NIB HIGH FOOTBALL RULES!!!!!

[Jose Castro]

if you buy postage through paypal, or usps.com its $4.75 with tracking # anywhere in the US for items 1 pound and under.

its no secret player, and everyone who uses ebay/paypla pretty much knows about it.

Also, on the topic there not being a price on paypal postage. There is an option you can choose to either have a price on the postage or not. I choose not to for a very good reason. Say you charge $5 for priority shipping, but on the postage it says $4.75. Then you get some wacko on ebay that will leave you a NEG and say "bad seller over charges shipping!!!" People thin sipping should be free or something, i dont get it. people also dont take into account handling, or paypal/ebay charges.

If im seeling something, why should i have to pay for these charges. The buyer wants the item, have him pay for them. Thats what we do with gi joes, and gas, and food and everything else. If a new tax comes into play, or minimum wage goes up, what happens? prices go up to cover the extra cost a company has to pay for that item.


anyways....NIB HIGH FOOTBALL RULES!!!!!
Checked it out,thanks for confirming :-D

[H.A.L.9000]

it's never ending. That's why i stay away from the bay and try to get what i need locally and from places like this. Good luck i feel for ya.

amen!!!

[jbowman]

I have found out that if you print the shipping label with Paypal it only costs 4.75 for a 1 pound boxes with the average size 12x12x8 which is the square priority box and it will be anywhere in the US for that price.


Thats also becaue you get a discount for doing the shipping online.. I personally do not use online postage because I live 2 blocks from my postoffice and stop there on a daily basis @ 8am every morning on my way into work..

People stating that figures can be shipped for $3-4 are obiviously just referring to first class or parcel, I personally never use those methods as they generally take longer and the packages are more prone to damage due to the delayed shipping time when compared to Priority mail. I ship everything Priority mail.. For a Joe or Star Wars figure, I charge $6.00 for Priority mail with delivery confirmation. The usual cost is around $5.50 the rest helps my ebay /paypal fees..

I am a huge ebayer and have been on there well over 5 years.. my rating is 99.4 so obiviously I am doing something right..

[wish12oz]

the best over charge for ebay shipping i ever saw was an auction by that guy who runs the gijoehq site. he wanted $7 to ship 4 tiny plastic gi joe guns. i lol'd

[carnage717]

While it is cheaper to use paypal to print out the labels, the fact that the price the seller has paid for the shipping itself is hidden from actual view(its not printed on there it just states the postage was paid and still seems shady to some buyers,whom i dont blame for thinking since its thier money)if im not mistaken(maybe this has changed,idk,but still its a waste of ink/paper and on top of that i still have to ride down to the post office cause if i call for pick up i dont get a set time and lets be honest who doesnt work more than 40hrs?),and i just cant wait for the delivery guy on my day off). Hoosfn,i would really like to know though where i can get this rate of $4.75 to ship anywhere in the US via priority,can you post a link?,is that including the confirmation #?,cause i doubt that to be true unless you can open my eyes to something everyone should know about(since sending to chicago/texas or outer L.A is always a big estimate Sh$t fest for most new sellers). Please let me know.

I also use the paypal online shipping thing to ship out all my stuff. Instead of calling for a pickup I just bring my packages to work with me and put them with the rest of the company mail to go out that day, most place don't mind letting you do that as long as you ask them if its OK. The only time I actually go to the Post office is if I have to mail out something International First Class shipping, other than that I stay as far away from the post office as possible.

[Jism83]

[QUOTE=jbowman;259685] People stating that figures can be shipped for $3-4 are obiviously just referring to first class or parcel, I personally never use those methods as they generally take longer and the packages are more prone to damage due to the delayed shipping time when compared to Priority mail. [QUOTE]


priority is 2-3 days while first class is 2-5. not too much of a difference. you can ship mulitiple figure for about $2.50. Priority you can ship a pound for $4.75 so its not too much a difference time or price wise.

Parcel post though is pretty worthless. I hate shipping anything parcel post unless its local.

[Daywalker]

No, you are absolutely correct, I see that I'm being gouged on the shipping so therefore I will not bid. I'm so sorry to the cheap-o's out there but they should know the #1 rule of business, "You have to spend money to make money"! I'm not trying to pay someone else's expenses. I could really give a crap about a sob story "oh boo hoo my gas fee's and wah my box and stuffing fee's" Come off it man, we all collect crap, I know damn well alot of these boxes were not purchased, they are recycled. I recycle boxes but then again I charge fair shipping charges. I've actually been told before about why they over charge and a seller told me to cover paypal and ebat fees I cut and pasted that and sent it to ebay. I hope they banned that douche!

Once again, why should the seller eat those costs? A smart business person will pass these costs off to the consumer. You think Wal-mart doesn't add in costs of shipping by truck or handling of employees into their price for items? They sure as hell do.

It's not worth a sellers time to buy something for $5 sell it for $7 and then pay a $1 to Ebay and Paypal. I sure as hell added in costs incurred by Paypal and Ebay in my shipping/handling totals. That's possibly 10-12% of my profit. I'm not eating that.

Honestly, if you are buying single figures and trying to complete a collection that is the worst way to do it. I got the whole 82-90 collection in a few months by buying huge lots, keeping what I needed and selling the extras. I basically got it for free and made $$ in the process spending a few hours a week with a camera and a computer :) Think I am only missing a few Night Force figures but you usually will have to pay premium for those.

Now I didn't gouge on shipping but I did add in extra for my time handling which is why I charged $1 each additional figure which is pretty standard. So yeah I made $$ off of my time but I make $25 an hour too so you'd be really getting me for cheap :p

[errantentertainment]

It's against eBay rules to charge excessive shipping and they have a report system for it. There is no hard line as to what defines 'excessive' but if a seller is doubling or tripling the cost then it might be considered such.
Excessive Shipping Charges Policy (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-shipping.html)

If you don't like the shipping charges don't bid and just report the seller.

[jjk1120]

Yeah, because of the overshipping charges I usually avoid eBay. I use it to gauge when the new figures hit the shelves, but that's it unless I really need something. I try to avoid buying newly released figures there. Only old stuff.

I just can't feel sorry for these sellers who camp out at Targets & TRUs for the stuff that I want, preventing ME from getting it. (I get the old "snooze/lose" thing. I just have a life outside the toy aisles)

Then they use the excuse of their overhead costs to make me pay even more for a figure that I really would have just rather have gone into a store & bought off the shelf or peg but couldn't because I have that little annoying job that I have to go to.

If someone charges me $2.00 to ship something & they paid $1.30, I don't care. If they charge me $7.50 to ship & it costs them $2.50, there's no excuse for that. None.

I understand the whole "read the shipping charges first" and blah blah blah, but the truth is, I don't know how much something will coast the seller to ship. His $7.50 may be pretty accurate.So I trust the seller that he/she isn't totally ripping me off to cover his own costs of doing buisness with ebay. If you want to cover your costs, start the auction at a higher price.

We are told as buyers to calculate in our head how much we want to spent (including shipping) and bid smart & responsibly.
Sellers should calculate how much their eBay fees are and factor that into the starting price of the auction, not hide behind the shipping costs.

It works both ways.

Just avoid ebay altogether.

[Daywalker]

There are some good points in this thread. Good deals are all over the place in Ebay but you have to be smart but it is hit and miss. You might pay more shipping but pay less overall for the item.

Example.

I was looking at 2 Omega Supreme MIB the other day. 1 was at $99.95 with 15.00 S/H the other was at $101.00 at $30.00 S/H.

I won the OS with $15.00 S/H for $122.00 which I though was a good deal and about the average going rate for him these days. The seller decides he will not sell it for that so enacts a mutual transaction withdrawal. Since he was being as Ass I stuck him with the Ebay fees since he failed to put a reserve on it and shoudl sell it for what it bid up too. Anyway, my cost would have been $137.00 for it but I didn't get it.

Meanwhile, the other OS (which happened to end 30 minutes later) sold for $101.00 so with the $30.00 S/H it would have been $131.00 so cheaper then what I would have paid for the other one had the guy sold it to me.

Doesn't always work out that way but sometimes you can get a good deal on something just because the seller is trying to gouge you on S/H. If you get the item and say it was $15.00 S/H send the seller a message that "Hey, you charged me double what S/H costs" and see if they give a partial refund. If not, hit em with negative feedback if you want but think about this. Ebay is going to get near $10 off that and Paypal is going to get $3.00 off that so basically do you think it's fair the seller pays all of that? I really do not think it is fair but that is up to you as a buyer.

[Jeffrozup]

I can also verify that anything can be shipped inside the continental United States for $4.75 (printed postage online) if the total item weight is 1 pound or under.

Items that are not over 2 pounds can be shipped to zones 1, 2 and 3 for this same price and then the price starts to go up from $5.29 (zone 4) to $7.96 (zone 8).

If I am not using free shipping on my auctions, then I simply weigh the item in the box I am going to ship it and let the postage calculator do all the work on eBay.

I would be very wary of those who use "standard flat rate shipping charges" on their auctions because they are the ones going to add the extra charges (packaging materials, etc).

But I have and I will continue to report individuals who charge $8 priority shipping for one MOC GI Joe to ship because that is an extra $3.25 that you don't need to add to your costs. Usually eBay will give a warning with items if they feel the shipping costs are too high for the weight, etc and some people just ignore it.

[GILTYONE]

I have yet to sell on ebay and If anyone has brought anything off me here on hisstank I try to do fair shippin. U.S. I charge $3.25 for the first and $1 for the second and so on. I always try to cover at least another $1.50 for the package (.75c) and gas (.75c).

[errantentertainment]

I just do $5.99 for unlimited figures MOC. Parcel post is rarely above that and if it's more than a few figures then I don't mind eating a few bucks to drop it in a flat rate priority box. I mostly ship comics and know the shipping charges for those very, very well (even though I ship them for free) but I'm still learning about shipping action figures. I've never been one for adding additonal charges after a base charge though. It can become difficult to manage if a person orders a lot and I wouldn't want to run them off by appearing to over charge on shipping.

[jbowman]

I can also verify that anything can be shipped inside the continental United States for $4.75 (printed postage online) if the total item weight is 1 pound or under.


But I have and I will continue to report individuals who charge $8 priority shipping for one MOC GI Joe to ship because that is an extra $3.25 that you don't need to add to your costs. Usually eBay will give a warning with items if they feel the shipping costs are too high for the weight, etc and some people just ignore it.


Good luck reporting them to ebay for that little of an amount as nothing will happen, Ive had idiots do that because I charge them $6.00 for priority for 1 joe, star wars ect, nothing happens. I even called ebay on the customer service number they give to powersellers and asked about it. The ony way you will get in trouble is if you charging 4 to 5 times the regular shipping cost on a constant basis inorder to avoid ebay and paypal fees, this $3 over the actual cost is no big deal to them.

Also you need to add delivery confirmation to your first qoute of $4.75.. to many jerks who will slap a paypal dispute you if you dont have it... Ive been on ebay for years and love it... Fair shipping for a Joe via USPS Priority mail w/ delivery confirmaiton is $6.00( $4.75 for the shippng and .65 for delivery confirmation), thats what I have always and will continue to charge until the postoffice decides to raise thier prices yet again.

[HOOSFN]

I know that there are zones but I don't know the breakdown I just know I am on the east coast VA and have shipped Joes to West Coast CA and with paypal shipping label it only costed be $4.75 I can't show you because I would be giving out someones info and I don't think they would like that to much

[mynamehere]

Good luck reporting them to ebay for that little of an amount as nothing will happen, Ive had idiots do that because I charge them $6.00 for priority for 1 joe, star wars ect, nothing happens. I even called ebay on the customer service number they give to powersellers and asked about it. The ony way you will get in trouble is if you charging 4 to 5 times the regular shipping cost on a constant basis inorder to avoid ebay and paypal fees, this $3 over the actual cost is no big deal to them.


Heh, yeah good luck trying to get the ebay police to do anything, they're horrible. I got screw'd by very obvious shill bidding (100% bids with same seller on multiple items in different categories), reported it to ebay and they did nothing, I checked a month later and shill bidder was still bidding consistently on seller's items. Plus its really not that hard to justify up to $5 in "handling" charges even if the ebay police get their heads out of their rear ends and question it.

It is amazing to me that some people get so caught up and put off by high ebay shipping costs (its actually shipping AND HANDLING cost). Hey people, most sellers are not trying to rip off you the buyer, they're just trying to manipulate ebay to pay less ebay fees. Yes its against ebay policy, but so what, I don't work for ebay or own their stock.

I bought a joe fig recently for a penny but shipping was $6. I know shipping cost isn't really $6, but I didn't feel gouged or ripped off at all because being realistic about it I know a figure shouldn't cost only a penny either. The guy was just trying to avoid ebay fees. So what? I don't care if he wants to screw ebay, good for him. It was shipped first class less than $2 but so what, I was willing to pay $6 for the figure and I paid $6 shipped for the figure, it makes no difference to me how that $6 was divided up by the seller. I've also won items on ebay cheaper than usual selling price because the seller had higher shipping costs so less bidders for me to compete with, but I still paid less *total* than what other auctions with lower shipping ended.

As someone pointed out, a seller could add their ebay/paypal fees in the starting price instead of inflating the shipping/handling, but then they'd be paying fees on their fees. For example, if a seller estimates $2 in ebay/paypal fees and adds $2 to their starting list price to offset those fees, they'd actually have to pay more than $2 in fees because that added $2 will generate more ebay fees. If they just stick it in shipping/handling instead of start price then they're not getting hit twice by ebay. Bottom line, just realize in most cases (not all cases) sellers are just manipulating ebay, they're not trying to rip you off.

For the people that look at the shipping cost so literally, do you really think "free" shipping is really free for the seller? Is it a bit hypocritical to get upset by stated shipping costs that are higher than actual cost, but be perfectly OK with free shipping that is obviously much lower than actual cost?
If you win a figure for $.99 or less, do you pay the seller some extra money with a note sorry your auction ended so low here is the extra I think it is worth and was willing to pay. Yes actual shipping cost may not be $6 or whatever, but a figure doesn't usually cost only $1 or whatever low amount either.
Do you send more money to a seller if you see that the seller underestimated the shipping and it cost them more than they charged you?
I doubt it. I'm not saying you should do any of these either. Its just how it is, and it goes both ways. As long as seller states everthing clearly up front and doesn't change it after auction ends, no reason to get bent out of shape about it. If a seller states Priority shipping in the auction but ships Parcel instead, yeah then complain to seller about it. Otherwise, be realistic big picture and focus on the *total* price, instead of dissecting actual shipping cost, or only when it benefits you.

[carnage717]

Also you need to add delivery confirmation to your first qoute of $4.75.. to many jerks who will slap a paypal dispute you if you dont have it... Ive been on ebay for years and love it... Fair shipping for a Joe via USPS Priority mail w/ delivery confirmaiton is $6.00( $4.75 for the shippng and .65 for delivery confirmation), thats what I have always and will continue to charge until the postoffice decides to raise thier prices yet again.

If you use the online shipping option, the Delivery Confrimation is free with Priority Mail and $0.18 if you use first class mail.

[HOOSFN]

If you use the online shipping option, the Delivery Confrimation is free with Priority Mail and $0.18 if you use first class mail.

that is what is great also it is in the 4.75 cost. And if you take them into the post office there is no wait time just drop and go I love online shipping

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

As someone who sells on eBay and often offers free shipping, let me offer my two cents. I think there are some very ridiculous shipping charges out there. I have seen some people who have $9shipping price tags on a single, loose action figure. Those are the ones I have a problem with.

I have turned down many auctions where I wanted an item because I thought the shipping was too high and I will continue to do so.

As for the people who use Buy It Now with items for like $5 and have $45 shipping charges, all they are doing is illegally auctioning their items and lowering their eBay fees since nothing is taken from the total price just the sale price.

I have sold quite a few items here on hisstank and also on eBay and I believe in providing a fair price when it comes to shipping. I realize some items you cannot avoid this with and I do my best to give the exact amount when it comes to shipping. I offer a refund on excess shipping charges if it comes to more than a dollar difference to what I have charged.

YES YES YES THANK THE LORD IN HEAVEN A EBAY SELLER WITH A CONSCIENCE. And not some silly devil's advocate trying to defend poor selling practices on Ebay. Thank you sir. You will now go to heaven, and may all your auctions be financially successful! P.S. I'm being serious not sarcastic because honest folks generally are a dying breed.

[shockblast]

I hate to say it but I soon will be raising my ebay shipping prices. I have to because every idiot buyer out there wants there item in 3 days I have no choice but to charge everyone priority I have received multiple neutral feedbacks from people who got there items within 10 days. There are to many cry baby toy collectors who hold me responsible for slow parcel post. If people would just understand transporter technology is not real it would be good.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

It's against eBay rules to charge excessive shipping and they have a report system for it. There is no hard line as to what defines 'excessive' but if a seller is doubling or tripling the cost then it might be considered such.
Excessive Shipping Charges Policy (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-shipping.html)

If you don't like the shipping charges don't bid and just report the seller.

That is exactly what I do, and will continue to do so.

On another note "Wah I can't make any money on Ebay, Wah I'm a scalper with no real job, Wah Wah Wah paypal and Ebay take my money"!

If you don't like ebay's rules on fee's and shipping. Then one should find another source of income instead of being a bottom feeder who buys up stock and charges an arm in a leg for it.

It angers me to no end when sellers over charge on shipping, so in any case I don't bid on anything over 4.00 for one figure that you and I both know they're going to send that in a bubble envelope. In the past did I leave them negative feedback? No. But if this crap keeps up, you bet I'm gonna start.

[minstrelboy]

I had a seller refund me a small amount of money, because the shipping charges were less than they quoted. I really appreciated this, and sent them an e-mail saying so. I understand additional charges aside from postage - but some are just ridiculous. That's why I always factor the cost of shipping into the highest bid I'll make an item, in addition to how much it's worth/how much I want it. I also always make sure they accept Paypal, and that they have a good feedback rating.

Ebay's a lot like communism - sounds great in theory, but when you throw the human element into it (especially in a capitalist society such as ours), the worst will be expected from it.

[speedocub]

Dont buy from them!

[poddie]

That is exactly what I do, and will continue to do so.

On another note "Wah I can't make any money on Ebay, Wah I'm a scalper with no real job, Wah Wah Wah paypal and Ebay take my money"!

If you don't like ebay's rules on fee's and shipping. Then one should find another source of income instead of being a bottom feeder who buys up stock and charges an arm in a leg for it.

It angers me to no end when sellers over charge on shipping, so in any case I don't bid on anything over 4.00 for one figure that you and I both know they're going to send that in a bubble envelope. In the past did I leave them negative feedback? No. But if this crap keeps up, you bet I'm gonna start.

Blaster, a few things to keep in mind...

It is NOT dishonest to charge $6, $8, or even $10 for shipping and HANDLING, as long as those charges are noted up-front in the auction!!! Honesty means telling the truth. You cannot twist the definition to mean that anybody who does not exactly match up with your almighty moral compass (which IMO couldn't find North if it was sitting on the pole) is DISHONEST.

Also, you seem to justify hating anyone who actually charges anything you don't deem reasonable by telling yourself they're a "bottom feedin" scalper.

I am no scalper... I only sell things that I no longer need or end up with extras of because they came in my case order. Many others are the same. Please don't lump me in with "scalpers".. it is quite offensive.

If I want to tack an additional $3 or whatever on the shipping and HANDLING charges for, gee, I dunno, HANDLING that is my right. Just as it is your right to not form a contract with me by bidding on my auction because of your completely inadequete understanding of how businesses, contracts, and auctions work.

And anyone who knowingly bids on those auctions and then leaves bad feedback because they think the shipping and HANDLING charge they AGREED to AHEAD of time are out of line is a flat out ass.

You may get riled by people who charge you shipping and HANDLING rates that are slightly in excess of what you deem reasonable. But I get riled by silly buyers like you that call me a dishonest bottom feeding scalper thief and negatively affect my ability to sell on eBay because I happen to think my time is not worthless and you happen to not be able to comprehend the idea that you are agreeing to a deal and then unfairly screwing the person on the other end for no reason.

Ta

[Derek2783]

Ebay's a lot like communism - sounds great in theory, but when you throw the human element into it (especially in a capitalist society such as ours), the worst will be expected from it.

So... capitalism is a lot like communism? Your point is a bit muddled. :D

It angers me to no end when sellers over charge on shipping, so in any case I don't bid on anything over 4.00 for one figure that you and I both know they're going to send that in a bubble envelope. In the past did I leave them negative feedback? No. But if this crap keeps up, you bet I'm gonna start.

Why does it anger you? Because you can't get exactly what you want at exactly the price you want? Doesn't that make you the "waah"-er?

I'm not trying to be rude, but of you don't like the shipping price just don't bid. Why give neg FB for something the seller disclosed to begin with and was up front and honest about?

Plus, is you're buying from a "bottom feeder", doesn't that make you the bottom he's feeding from? You can't blame the seller if you're buying. That's just stupid.

And anyone who knowingly bids on those auctions and then leaves bad feedback because they think the shipping and HANDLING charge they AGREED to AHEAD of time are out of line is a flat out ass.

EXACTLY!!!

[Derek2783]

double post :D

[bravo]

when selling for me,it becomes a big problem, at the post office fore
priority mail has gone up in price, today i sent out a the 3 pack Joe's, and it cost me 2 dollars extra, then what i ask fore on s+h, that's why i had to go up a dollar, or so , the gas prices have gone down a lot from were we stand, so maybe the post office price will go down,
but a lot of sellers do ask a bit to much just for one item, like the one i seen ,it was a single Joe for .99, and his s+h was 10.00, i can see 3 to 4, but 10, it wasn't even MOC.

[Derek2783]

maybe the post office price will go down.

That'll be a cold day in hell...

[skullshine]

Also the thing is you only save maybe 50 cent shipping it parcel post instead of Priority. I like the ones that sell sports card for 5.00 shipping and it does only cost a 1.85 at the most



That depends. I have shipped packages that were cheaper to send via priority than parcel post. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Blaster, a few things to keep in mind...

It is NOT dishonest to charge $6, $8, or even $10 for shipping and HANDLING, as long as those charges are noted up-front in the auction!!! Honesty means telling the truth. You cannot twist the definition to mean that anybody who does not exactly match up with your almighty moral compass (which IMO couldn't find North if it was sitting on the pole) is DISHONEST.

Also, you seem to justify hating anyone who actually charges anything you don't deem reasonable by telling yourself they're a "bottom feedin" scalper.

I am no scalper... I only sell things that I no longer need or end up with extras of because they came in my case order. Many others are the same. Please don't lump me in with "scalpers".. it is quite offensive.

If I want to tack an additional $3 or whatever on the shipping and HANDLING charges for, gee, I dunno, HANDLING that is my right. Just as it is your right to not form a contract with me by bidding on my auction because of your completely inadequete understanding of how businesses, contracts, and auctions work.

And anyone who knowingly bids on those auctions and then leaves bad feedback because they think the shipping and HANDLING charge they AGREED to AHEAD of time are out of line is a flat out ass.

You may get riled by people who charge you shipping and HANDLING rates that are slightly in excess of what you deem reasonable. But I get riled by silly buyers like you that call me a dishonest bottom feeding scalper thief and negatively affect my ability to sell on eBay because I happen to think my time is not worthless and you happen to not be able to comprehend the idea that you are agreeing to a deal and then unfairly screwing the person on the other end for no reason.

Ta

If you are not a scalper/bottom feeder then you should take the stick out, and stop taking my posts so GD serious.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

So... capitalism is a lot like communism? Your point is a bit muddled. :D



Why does it anger you? Because you can't get exactly what you want at exactly the price you want? Doesn't that make you the "waah"-er?

I'm not trying to be rude, but of you don't like the shipping price just don't bid. Why give neg FB for something the seller disclosed to begin with and was up front and honest about?

Plus, is you're buying from a "bottom feeder", doesn't that make you the bottom he's feeding from? You can't blame the seller if you're buying. That's just stupid.



EXACTLY!!!

Do the morons who read my posts only selectively read what they want to read or are the just ignorant and can't comprehend what I write. I don't I repeat do not bid on what I deem as extra shipping. I do however leave negative feedback when I bid on an item with ten dollar shipping and it comes to me in a narled envelope with postage saying 2.05. Really that douches cost are 8.00? I doubt it. And lastly Derek2783 and the whats his name with the darkseid avatar you can debate me all you want, you'll never sway me or find any piece of info out there that will make a transaction like that "ok" in my book. I rarely bid on ebay, and when I do, I'll only pay actual shipping not inflated I'd like to make extra on the back end shipping.

-BPB

[bradforj]

Figure the total before you buy. If you overpay for anything, whose fault is that but your own? Does the seller have a gun to your head? Take some responsibility for yourself. Although that is asking a lot from people these days. Everyone wants to blame someone else.

[errantentertainment]

I don't think these guys are looking to place blame just trying to call BS when they see it. Putting extra charges in a 'handling' fee is technically referred to as 'hidden' charges in the greater retail world. I think, to a lot of people, it's considered unethical. There are not rules against it and personally I don't have a problem when people use it. I just avoid those sellers. No harm no foul.

Personally I don't use handling charges. Any extra money I'm looking to make I add into the price I'm asking for the product I'm selling. I only list the shipping charges as just what the P.O. charges me. That way anyone that buys from me doesn't really need to do any math, they can see exactly what I'm asking for an item and if it's too much they move on. Eventually if the item doesn't move I might lower the price and see what happens.

[shockblast]

I currently charge $3 for a loose figure in a paded and $4 for a carded 25th joe or sw figure SHIPPED BOXED. I believe I am more then fair with buyers, but I still catch crap. I go to the post office 1 or 2 times a week depending on volume. I don't go more often because gas is expensive. Padded envelopes packing tape and my time factor into these prices. I DO NOT TAKE MY EBAY AND PAYPAL FEES OUT ON THE BUYER. The average arrival time is 2 weeks. I think I'm a pretty good seller. But I constantly catch crap from buyers. The complaints are always the same.

It cost $1.50 - $2.50 for shipping and you charged me $3 or $4

It took 2 weeks to get the item instead of 3 days like the guy who overcharges me

Or my favorite, you shipped my loose figure in a padded envelope I paid $3 why wasn't it boxed

Or what are my DC #'s that I did NOT pay for

Everyone wants a deal and I'm bad guy for wanting to make a profit, but yet its called gi joe a real AMERICAN heroe The worst part is foreign buyers rarely ever give me these problems and with the economy bad I would prefer to ship everything overseas and watch people cry 10 years from now when the prices go through the roof because there just isn't enough stuff to go around. My customers outside canada and the USA are all almost perfect customers. It's sad that the chinese understand capitalism better then people in the USA. Also someone earlier made the point that ebay fees are expensive and that they paid $62 last month. I pay about $350 every month and pick it up out of MY END. In my case it's the buyers FN problem. Post's like this just recruit more cry baby's. These items are luxury items you DO NOT NEED THEM nor are you entitled to them if you can't or won't afford shipping. Get a job or don't buy on ebay that simple. However if someone is charging $10 or more for shipping on a common loose figure just simply don't buy from them and certainly don't cry to the other seller that there not fast enough when they went out of there way to save you FN cash

[Pyroclasm]

Putting extra charges in a 'handling' fee is technically referred to as 'hidden' charges in the greater retail world. I think, to a lot of people, it's considered unethical.
That is an incorrect comparison. A handling fee is not hidden. It is out in the open. It is part of the item's price. When you view an item, it tells you in no uncertain terms what you agree to pay in addition to the final value. (Ebay goes out of its way to display the s&h fee in multiple places.) A "hidden charge" is when you are told that something is a certain price, but then you are "surprised" by additional fees in order to complete the sale. (Keyword: SURPRISED) This would be the case if it said "s&h $5" and then you get the invoice and discover it is actually higher. If someone is bidding on ebay with the idea that the final value is the total price they are paying for their item, then they should probably just turn off their computer and drop it off at the Good Will. They are too stupid to own one. (Weeee! I just won this cool figure for $.99! Huh? Why does the invoice say $6.99?)

I would also like to add that if a seller does not list the s&h in the auction, it is "buyer beware". You have no control over the amount when the auction ends. If you bid, it is YOUR FAULT.
Note that most of the time it will tell you for what kind of shipping you are paying. If it says "Priority", then the seller cannot ship it 1st class in a padded envelope. If it says "1st Class" or "Parcel Post", don't expect priority mail. If it says "Flat Rate", then note that the seller may choose whatever shipping method he so desires. Again, if you bid on an auction with "Flat Rate" as its method, it is YOUR FAULT.
If you leave negative feedback over something that was clearly indicated and you agreed to it, then you are just being an ass.
Again, as I said earlier, when you order from an online retailer, they charge a varying degree of shipping. They almost NEVER charge actual shipping costs. I just bought a book for 37 cents from Amazon. They charged $3.99 for s&h. The book was sent the utra-cheap media mail. Is that a problem? No. Because I knew I was buying the book for $4.36. When you click "checkout" you've agreed to the price in your cart. When it arrives and the box has a different price than what you paid in "s&h", do you then contact the company to demand retribution? Doing that to somebody because he/she isn't a mega-corporation is just being an ass.
People need to just take responsibility over the contracts they agree to enter.

[Derek2783]

I do however leave negative feedback when I bid on an item with ten dollar shipping and it comes to me in a narled envelope with postage saying 2.05. Really that douches cost are 8.00? I doubt it. And lastly Derek2783 ... you can debate me all you want, you'll never sway me or find any piece of info out there that will make a transaction like that "ok" in my book.

Well, first of all, you can talk about how we didn't read your post, but you said you were going to leave neg FB, which means you had to bid, so who's being the moron?

Plus, what the heck could you have bid on that only costs $2 to ship but you were willing to pay $10 for shipping for? Seems like anything that small, you should know beforehand that the $10 was an "inflated" price shouldn't you?

Who are you to judge what the seller's handling fees cover or are worth? If it's worth you to pay $10 to get it to you, what does it matter what the seller's costs were?

And lastly, I don't think I was debating you, originally. I think what I said was that you were stupid.

[errantentertainment]

Here is the part I find comical. The buyers are the ones with the money and we are the ones with the product. If we are dicks to buyers they won't buy from us so calling them asses and being rude to them will generally yeild lower sales as it reflects poorly on our character. Part of the reason I don't use handling fees is because it puts buyers off. Rather than cuss them out and call them names I changed my practices and re-allocated those fees to the price of the item I sell. I've received far, far less complaints. I'd still like to profit but not at the cost of my character so I do my best to carry a philosophy of listening to what buyers want. There will always be the difficult buyer to work with but as long as I've proven that I'm willing to listen and do what I can to accomodate them I have no guilt in the end if the transaction doesn't work out.

Pyroclasm, your definition of 'hidden charge' is certainly correct but the definition really doesn't stop there. If it's perceived by the majority of buyers as unethical then it probably is. That's all I mean.

But like I said, I don't mind of other sellers use them, I just personally look elsewhere when I see them and I suspect more and more buyers will start doing the same. Reading thread after thread on eBay, here, and other forums, it's clear to me that many, many buyers are frustrated by it.

[fierce krypton]

I am so confused as to why this is such a popular thread.... who in the world cares??? Calculate it in with the sale price before bidding like 100 other people have said and move on.

Sorry if I was blunt but seriously!

[crock master]

i think it sux but maybe they r charging you for gas and packaging.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Well, first of all, you can talk about how we didn't read your post, but you said you were going to leave neg FB, which means you had to bid, so who's being the moron?

Plus, what the heck could you have bid on that only costs $2 to ship but you were willing to pay $10 for shipping for? Seems like anything that small, you should know beforehand that the $10 was an "inflated" price shouldn't you?

Who are you to judge what the seller's handling fees cover or are worth? If it's worth you to pay $10 to get it to you, what does it matter what the seller's costs were?

And lastly, I don't think I was debating you, originally. I think what I said was that you were stupid.

I'm through with arguing a moot point with idiots.

[shockblast]

i think it sux but maybe they r charging you for gas and packaging.

So long as your prices are not out of hand, these are legit expenses

[fierce krypton]

this thread is ridiculous

[fierce krypton]

and it belongs in the non joe related area.

[Derek2783]

I'm through with arguing a moot point with idiots.

Well, as long as you admit the point you're trying to make is moot... :D

[Xerofall]

Ebay has said that sellers can not charge you for their eBay or Paypal fees.

So they're just adding it into the auction as a flat "shipping and handling" fee.

To sellers: Priority Shipping through PayPal's shipping service is the best way to go... 1 lb or less is $4.75 and you can order free boxes and supplies from USPS.com FREE BOXES!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ordered 100 DVD Priority mailers and got them shipped to me for free. So I don't even need to buy bubble envelopes or spend $$$ on gas to buy them at the dollar store.

I charged a flat fee of $4.75 for Priority and $2.50 for First class. Never had any problems because it was actual cost. I don't try to make money off of shipping because I think it's lousy. I make money off what I'm selling.

One guy said I charged too much shipping for a DVD... but he was the one that wanted 2-3 day Priority and not the 5-7 day First Class and I only charged him actual cost. So I chalk that one up to buyer's remorse.

But yes... everyone should look at the S/H charges. If I feel it's too much, then I move on... someone someday will have the same thing availible for less.

[DOC]

Why Why God Is this thread still going? No one is going to make some awesome point that changes anyones opinion on anything! I mean Come the F*** on guys, Do you buyers really think your going to scare sellers into lowering there shipping fees on anything? Same goes for sellers, do you actually think you can prove your stance on why we charge more for shipping then it actually coasts? I charge 5.80-10.00 to ship stuff out and thats that No one will change that if you don't like it cool don't buy it. Is it really that Fu**ing hard to do? I mean come on Think about it! All of these posts including MINE mean absolutely nothing to the next person. Nothing!

[poddie]

As I said originally, the only point that really matters in the end IMO is that there is NO defense to leaving negative feedback over something you agreed to with full knowledge.

Why these buyers seem to think they can dance around that is beyond me.

I don't care how much it bothers you... if you make an agreement with someone voluntarily you do not have the moral right to stab them in the back with negative feedback afterwards.

If I want to charge $100 shipping and HANDLING that is my business. I won't ever sell anything, but it is perfectly within my rights as long as I don't have a monopoly.

And just FYI I usually end up losing money on shipping and handling. I rarely charge more than it costs, and when I do it's pretty much by accident.

[bravo]

Ebay has said that sellers can not charge you for their eBay or Paypal fees.

So they're just adding it into the auction as a flat "shipping and handling" fee.

To sellers: Priority Shipping through PayPal's shipping service is the best way to go... 1 lb or less is $4.75 and you can order free boxes and supplies from USPS.com FREE BOXES!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ordered 100 DVD Priority mailers and got them shipped to me for free. So I don't even need to buy bubble envelopes or spend $$$ on gas to buy them at the dollar store.

I charged a flat fee of $4.75 for Priority and $2.50 for First class. Never had any problems because it was actual cost. I don't try to make money off of shipping because I think it's lousy. I make money off what I'm selling.

One guy said I charged too much shipping for a DVD... but he was the one that wanted 2-3 day Priority and not the 5-7 day First Class and I only charged him actual cost. So I chalk that one up to buyer's remorse.

But yes... everyone should look at the S/H charges. If I feel it's too much, then I move on... someone someday will have the same thing availible for less.

you know i have seen that from paypal, but never try it, and i didnt know about the free boxes , thanks for the info, but question is a scale needed for pay pal?

[DOC]

you know i have seen that from paypal, but never try it, and i didnt know about the free boxes , thanks for the info, but question is a scale needed for pay pal?

A scale never hurts to use.

[Darth Jay]

All those fees are the price of selling something on ebay. If you have an item and you want to sell it, what do you do, put it out in your yard and hope someone wants it? You will get far less for that item. If you put it on ebay and people want it they will pay more for it than someone at a yard sale. You gots to pay to sell. That shouldnt be added to the shipping amount. I dont know why Im trying to convince you though after seeing your auctions. :)

Sure it should. That's part of the process. Anything less discourages sellers from selling.

Look, I really don't understand the beef here. It is a simple issue of supply and demand. They have what you want, they have a certain price it will take to acquire said item. Either meet their demand or go find it somewhere else.

I don't have a problem with people overcharging on shipping because I know how bad it sucks to have a great item get sold for crap and feel like you are losing money. The higher you put the starting cost, the more it costs to list.

And quite frankly, they offer insurance on delivery. Neither party has any control over what happens once the package goes into the possession of the US Postal service. It sucks. But I could spend all the money in the world to triple protect something and it may not even do a thing and the item can still be damaged. How would that be my fault as a seller?

I see both sides of the argument, but this is business. People are in it to make money. Don't like the pricetag, go somewhere else.

[Pyroclasm]

Ebay has said that sellers can not charge you for their eBay or Paypal fees.
That is incorrect. The rule actually is that the seller cannot specifically charge more for using those services than if you didn't. For example, you cannot say in your auction that payments via Paypal will incur a $1.00 processing fee. (Just as Paypal will not allow you to deny or charge more for credit card payments.) Conversely, you cannot offer a $1.00 discount to those who choose to use a different method other than Paypal. You are also not allowed to readjust the final price + s&h to cover your ebay fees, but you can most certainly precalculate a reasonable amount to include in your s&h. This is how that rule works according to ebay.
They will also enforce the excessive shipping rule in cases when the price of the item is obviously included in the shipping. For example, you buy an DVD pack for 99 cents, but pay $28 in shipping.
I'm not trying to defend any particular amount sellers may choose to charge. I don't buy from sellers that are obviously gouging on the back end. I don't particularly buy from sellers that don't charge shipping. I make a decision based on total price. My point is that buyers don't need to know how their money is allocated. If a buyer agrees to the charges, then they have no room to complain, unless the seller somehow changed the terms.
Hey, if the seller wants to use the money I paid to buy themselves an Egg McMuffin on the way to the post office, I don't care. The price I paid was what I felt the item is worth, as if I just handed the cash to someone right in front of me.
The way ebay is now skewed toward the "angry buyer" instead of "pleasant mutual transactions" is the reason I stopped selling on there a while ago.

[DOC]

That is incorrect. The rule actually is that the seller cannot specifically charge more for using those services than if you didn't. For example, you cannot say in your auction that payments via Paypal will incur a $1.00 processing fee. (Just as Paypal will not allow you to deny or charge more for credit card payments.) Conversely, you cannot offer a $1.00 discount to those who choose to use a different method other than Paypal. You are also not allowed to readjust the final price + s&h to cover your ebay fees, but you can most certainly precalculate a reasonable amount to include in your s&h. This is how that rule works according to ebay.
They will also enforce the excessive shipping rule in cases when the price of the item is obviously included in the shipping. For example, you buy an DVD pack for 99 cents, but pay $28 in shipping.
I'm not trying to defend any particular amount sellers may choose to charge. I don't buy from sellers that are obviously gouging on the back end. I don't particularly buy from sellers that don't charge shipping. I make a decision based on total price. My point is that buyers don't need to know how their money is allocated. If a buyer agrees to the charges, then they have no room to complain, unless the seller somehow changed the terms.
Hey, if the seller wants to use the money I paid to buy themselves an Egg McMuffin on the way to the post office, I don't care. The price I paid was what I felt the item is worth, as if I just handed the cash to someone right in front of me.
The way ebay is now skewed toward the "angry buyer" instead of "pleasant mutual transactions" is the reason I stopped selling on there a while ago.

Dude you Suck...........Guess where im heading to? Egg McMuffin's here I come!

[Derek2783]

Same goes for sellers, do you actually think you can prove your stance on why we charge more for shipping then it actually coasts?

Yes, because it's not a subjective argument, it's just simple fact -sellers charge handling fees to cover extra expenses including time, and to pad the bottom line.

Your next point is the whole point: if you don't like the terms of a contract, just don't enter into it, but the pissing and moaning about it is stupid.

Leaving negative FB for an honest seller who discloses terms upfront is even worse.

[evopete]

I agree only real D bags.... now the shipping price, bid and pay on the item then leave feedback, positive, but still throwing shipping was a bit high Jab..... JUST DONT BID on the ITEM, People forget theat GAS and buyting the boxes, PADDING and all the other items to ship DOES cost cash...and living in Cali, where the cost of Living is higher than the rest of the COuntry, minus NY, the prices are not that unreasonable.... People want to charge only for the cost of the Stamp...and loose money on the box the padding and gas they used to get it sent... Go toake there money... as they must have plenty of it to just give it to guys like the one who is complaining about high shipping prices....

Yes, because it's not a subjective argument, it's just simple fact -sellers charge handling fees to cover extra expenses including time, and to pad the bottom line.

Your next point is the whole point: if you don't like the terms of a contract, just don't enter into it, but the pissing and moaning about it is stupid.

Leaving negative FB for an honest seller who discloses terms upfront is even worse.

[HOOSFN]

when I sold on ebay back in the day I would look at others auction with the same items and look at shipping cost and go little cheaper to hope mine would sell fast and for more than theirs. also now ebay has that star system or what ever it is now that can lower your rating which can cause you to lose what little discounts ebays do give you. Ebay is now a buyers place not the sellers with the feedback I hope they change it back,then I might get back on there

[Jose Castro]

when I sold on ebay back in the day I would look at others auction with the same items and look at shipping cost and go little cheaper to hope mine would sell fast and for more than theirs. also nopw ebay was that star system or what ever it is now that can lower your rating which can cause you to lose what little discounts ebays do give you. Ebay is now a buyers place not the sellers with the feedback I hope they change it back,then I might get back on there
Yeah its very sad that its come to that...

[psycho_klown66]

I just offer to email a prepaid label from UPS to the seller, and most are happy with that.

They just have to put the label on the box and drop it off.

[fierce krypton]

this thread is ridiculous

what in the world......... seriously?

[errantentertainment]

what in the world......... seriously?

So quit replying to it. ;-)