with so many sdcc cc's out now...

[coola784]

since so many people have the black cc's now it kind of sucks in a way in the sense that it has taken value away from them. im glad everyone who wants one is able to get one and i dont care because im not trying to sell them like crazy or anything but its like they have no value now.

when they first dropped people were willing to pay 50.00 all day for one. atleast the blue cc's are still worth something. but my point is that they should of only made a low amount so that they were more a valuable piece. anyone understand what im getting at?

[Irid70]

since so many people have the black cc's now it kind of sucks in a way in the sense that it has taken value away from them. im glad everyone who wants one is able to get one and i dont care because im not trying to sell them like crazy or anything but its like they have no value now.

when they first dropped people were willing to pay 50.00 all day for one. atleast the blue cc's are still worth something. but my point is that they should of only made a low amount so that they were more a valuable piece. anyone understand what im getting at?

Wait, you're glad everyone who wants one is able to get one, and you don't care...but it sucks because they've lost value?

News flash: they did make a relatively small amount of them. Far smaller than any of the normal figures in the line. It'll probably still sell for more than the retail price of a typical figure, but if you're not trying to sell them, why does it matter? Your post just reads like sour grapes that your toy isn't as salable as it was yesterday.

[coola784]

i was trying to be as positive as possible when i wrote the thread in the sense its cool people can get them but at the same time it sucks, because since tere arent many valuable figs in the 25th line yet, it would of been nice to have another one. you see what im saying?

and you say they made a small amount well why is there about 3-5 on every page of ebay? thats not small amount compared to the sdcc destros. and by the way you dont have to be such a polesmoker when you reply to a thread, im sick of everyone being a ahole when im just making conversation.

[Jism83]

ill sell you one for $50 so it seems like the price is still high, heck make it $75 haha :P

[coola784]

lol

[Shin-Gouki]

Just wait, when the dust settles they will be worth a lot more than $10

[ladyhump]

The 2 CC's were still the fastest SDCC exclusives to sell out on HTS.


1,000

[DAH2008]

If I recall correctly... the PDD Gold and Silvers had pages upon pages of them for sale on EBAY weeks after the SDCC last year (I even sold a few on Ebay, 2 weeks after the SDCC, for under $30... now they are $100+). This is the same scenario and once the auctions start to fade away... months down the road... you will see a few on Ebay, just like the PDDs, and at higher prices.

Does anyone know the final product count?

[dawg99]

lol

hey coola784 u still want to trade sgt flash for sdcc cc black or are u getting rid of all your 25th stuff

[QBERT]

anyone understand what im getting at?

I do man, I actually feel the same way but would have phrased it a bit differently. I just look at it as the whole point of collecting is to have a collection for you, but still have some rare pieces and some vauable ones, whether to just look at and enjoy, or trade later for other HTF things, etc...it makes it worthwhile to know you have some rare, sough-after items.

Don't worry coola, there are people here who feel the same way.

[Captain STEVEN DePACE]

because since tere arent many valuable figs in the 25th line yet, it would of been nice to have another one. you see what im saying?

The 25th line won't have many or any figures that are valuble, the majority of the people buying it are adults, most of whom are completeists. Really I bet one of the rarer figures is going to be wave 7 cartoon Cobra Commander, who I'm sure quite a few skipped over because "HE'S LIKE THE BATTLE PACK AND WAVE 4"


and by the way you dont have to be such a polesmoker when you reply to a thread, im sick of everyone being a ahole when im just making conversation.

You might want to try and make a conversation that doesn't come across as "WOE IS ME THE SDCC COBRA COMMANDER WON'T BE R@RE"

[CobraCoffee]

The 25th line won't have many or any figures that are valuble, the majority of the people buying it are adults, most of whom are completeists. Really I bet one of the rarer figures is going to be wave 7 cartoon Cobra Commander, who I'm sure quite a few skipped over because "HE'S LIKE THE BATTLE PACK AND WAVE 4"



You might want to try and make a conversation that doesn't come across as "WOE IS ME THE SDCC COBRA COMMANDER WON'T BE R@RE"




What is wrong with you guys? This poor guy has a valid point and you rip him apart for it!


At what level are you a true GI Joe fan? Just because you bought 3 or 4 of a rare figure and you don't sell them does not make you more of a fan then a guy who buys the same and only keeps one.

Look, I'm a huge GI Joe fanatic, but I am also a real, live, enterprising person! If there is demand! I'm gonna capitolize on it! What's wrong with it? That's called being business savvy.




I enjoy my new little hobby of collecting! But you know what? I also enjoy the fact that I can go the extra mile and gather up enough of the rare indemand stuff to sell to PAY FOR ALL of the stuff I keep for myself!

I agree with the original poster and do not think it was fair to offer figures with the "comic-con"sticker on it for sale on the website. Period. You removed the whole "I went to this event and retrieved the rare "pearl" figure for my efforts".

There is nothing wrong with trying to make a few bucks. You guys need to get offa that already. It's just old and tired and makes you look like you expect all the good things in life without making any effort to get them...


Now, as far as the original poster.. I spoke with the AFA booth at Comic con. He told me to not jump the gun! He said let the flood of exclusives die off and then the values will go up. He also told me to focus on Christmas.


I am glad I got into GI Joe again. Collecting is fun! But you know what else is fun? Treasure hunting for that sacred figure and then offering it up to the highest bidder! That's fun also.

So in close, I remind you to check my For sale stuff. hhehehe

And don't forget, knowing is half the battle! but knowing how much to sell it for and when on E-bay is the other half!

Yo Joe!

[carnage717]

I agree with the original poster and do not think it was fair to offer figures with the "comic-con"sticker on it for sale on the website. Period. You removed the whole "I went to this event and retrieved the rare "pearl" figure for my efforts".



First of all the SDCC Cobra Commander wasnt a "Comic Con Exclusive" it was a Hasbrotoyshop.com Exclusive launched at Comic Con, theres a huge difference.

As far as the original poster goes, its sounds to me like he's having buyers remorse at this point. He bought a Black CC off of ebay for $52 and then bought several more from HTS and now he's upset because he 1. lost money on the one he got off of ebay and 2. he can't sell the ones he got from HTS to offset what he paid for the ebay one.

I personally never buy any of the easier to find Exclusive as soon as they come out because people go crazy trying to be the first one to have one. And no mater what AFA said, theres no way the Cobra Commanders are going to be anywhere near the price the current PPD's are. From some of the information I have found around the net, there were twice as many CC's made this year than there were PPD made last year so thats twice the amount of product out there compared to the PPD figures. Also another thing thats going to hurt the SDCC CC is that it isn't even a 25th figure design, as soon as the Indiana Jones Toht figure comes out everyone will be making a SDCC Cobra Commander with a simple head swap.

[i<3COBRALA]

Wait, you're glad everyone who wants one is able to get one, and you don't care...but it sucks because they've lost value?

News flash: they did make a relatively small amount of them. Far smaller than any of the normal figures in the line. It'll probably still sell for more than the retail price of a typical figure, but if you're not trying to sell them, why does it matter? Your post just reads like sour grapes that your toy isn't as salable as it was yesterday.



hahah Sick burn

[Zefram]

Screw rarity. I just want something to look good fighting on my coffeetable. If I found a MOC SDCC Blue CC on the street, I'd free him of his plastic prison and have him addressing my army on a foamboard stage.

The problem with these little exclusives is that their collectivity makes them hard to find loose (and thus affordable) 'cause everyone wants to protect their investment. I've never even seen a loose silver PPD on ebay, though I'd like one hangin' out on my desk.

Just my two cents.

[Duffmann]

give it time, next year at this time blue CC will be at $200 or more and black CC will be at $70 or more.

[Crimson Bludd]

One thing I've learned through my various collecting hobbies (Joes, TFers, MUSCLEs, video games, magazines, various comic book series...), is that doing it "for the money" is futile.

Toy collecting is not a good investment, financially (scalping is another matter). You aren't going to make thousands of dollars at some later date in the future. And if that's the goal, putting the money into the stock market is a much better bet.

I just do it, because I love the toys and want to own them. If I ever sell them off, its to make room, not to make money.

As such, my philosophy is that the Comic Con Cobra Commander is a pretty sweet toy, so I hope that as many people can get one (affordabley) as want one.

Its not like, even if he was ultra-rare, I'm going to be able to sell him and retire.

[CobraCoffee]

give it time, next year at this time blue CC will be at $200 or more and black CC will be at $70 or more.


You my friend are correct.

[Syn3sthesia]

Once again is all about patience. Wait till it fades from HTS and you will see people paying stupid amounts for it.

[CobraCoffee]

First of all the SDCC Cobra Commander wasnt a "Comic Con Exclusive" it was a Hasbrotoyshop.com Exclusive launched at Comic Con, theres a huge difference.

As far as the original poster goes, its sounds to me like he's having buyers remorse at this point. He bought a Black CC off of ebay for $52 and then bought several more from HTS and now he's upset because he 1. lost money on the one he got off of ebay and 2. he can't sell the ones he got from HTS to offset what he paid for the ebay one.

I personally never buy any of the easier to find Exclusive as soon as they come out because people go crazy trying to be the first one to have one. And no mater what AFA said, theres no way the Cobra Commanders are going to be anywhere near the price the current PPD's are. From some of the information I have found around the net, there were twice as many CC's made this year than there were PPD made last year so thats twice the amount of product out there compared to the PPD figures. Also another thing thats going to hurt the SDCC CC is that it isn't even a 25th figure design, as soon as the Indiana Jones Toht figure comes out everyone will be making a SDCC Cobra Commander with a simple head swap.

I said the sticker. I was talking about a note or some type of mark that differentiates the Convention obtained figures as opposed to the website purchased ones. That, indeed would be a "exclusive" figure.


The idea that you are going to feed your children and buy a house and quit your job on selling figures is foolish. But, if you find a box of Yellow stalkers and wanna sell em on E-Bay to pay for the other $300 or more dollars you've spent on the other Joe stuff you have...by all means, more power to you.


You guys are removing the fun of going to the conventions. You expect the souvenir 100th anniversary peuter mug offered to the first 100 people in line to celebrate the Empire state buildings construction to be available to everyone and have no Value. Memories for some... Collecters items for others. Depends on what you choose. I frankly choose to take advantage of both.

My point is, effort needs to be rewarded.

People who can... do

People who can't...make excuses about why they couldn't

[Gunzlingr]

Screw rarity. I just want something to look good fighting on my coffeetable. If I found a MOC SDCC Blue CC on the street, I'd free him of his plastic prison and have him addressing my army on a foamboard stage.

The problem with these little exclusives is that their collectivity makes them hard to find loose (and thus affordable) 'cause everyone wants to protect their investment. I've never even seen a loose silver PPD on ebay, though I'd like one hangin' out on my desk.

Just my two cents.

Amen brother!

I wanted one to give to my son, who will open it and play with it. He saw the picture online and wanted to go to SDCC so he could get it. That wasn't happening. Neither was ebay as I refuse to pay 10 prices for a toy. I got lucky and hit HTS up for 2, 1 for me one for him. I am doing this as something he and I can do together not to rip people off and make money.

[CobraCoffee]

One thing I've learned through my various collecting hobbies (Joes, TFers, MUSCLEs, video games, magazines, various comic book series...), is that doing it "for the money" is futile.

Toy collecting is not a good investment, financially (scalping is another matter). You aren't going to make thousands of dollars at some later date in the future. And if that's the goal, putting the money into the stock market is a much better bet.

I just do it, because I love the toys and want to own them. If I ever sell them off, its to make room, not to make money.

As such, my philosophy is that the Comic Con Cobra Commander is a pretty sweet toy, so I hope that as many people can get one (affordabley) as want one.

Its not like, even if he was ultra-rare, I'm going to be able to sell him and retire.

You are right and wrong in your post.

"To each their own".

You do it for 1 reason.

I do it for another

Neither of us is wrong.


There is nothing wrong with collecting to collect. I also collect everything. But there is nothing wrong with someone buying 2 and using 1 to pay for the other. Nothing is more enjoyable then figuring out a way to make your money back. Just because peoples reasoning is not the same as you does not mean some one elses efforts are "futile". Infact, your attempts at what they are doing successfully may be the "futile" thing here. That's if you do infact sell things. If you choose not to, well then...more power to ya!

To each their own.

[jbowman]

just give it a month or 2 and once all the cheap $20-$30 Black CC's have been sold all that will be left are the $40 and up.. people who dont have it and want it wont have a choice.

[RolandofGilead]

There was a time when I thought $30 was way too much for Black Timber Snake Eyes, and then Yellow Stalker. Eventually these will be harder and harder to come by. That's why I need to find a King Greyskull before it's too late and they really are worth $80.

[CobraCoffee]

There was a time when I thought $30 was way too much for Black Timber Snake Eyes, and then Yellow Stalker. Eventually these will be harder and harder to come by. That's why I need to find a King Greyskull before it's too late and they really are worth $80.

too late!!!! doh!

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[G.I. Shaft]

Toys are a horrible investment, I sold my Batman movie figures from the first four movies and Star War figures from 1995-98 at about $3-4 per figure and they were carded. But I was just glad to get rid of them and make room for Joe's.
My Black CC I carved right into that packaging.

[CobraCoffee]

Toys are a horrible investment, I sold my Batman movie figures from the first four movies and Star War figures from 1995-98 at about $3-4 per figure and they were carded. But I was just glad to get rid of them and make room for Joe's.
My Black CC I carved right into that packaging.

Dude, I love your name. Priceless

[COBRACOLLECTOR]

ill sell you one for $50 so it seems like the price is still high, heck make it $75 haha :P

hahahaha jism alaways makes my day with his Replys lol

[2pacnacho]

anyone have any extras available? i missed out on getting them on the hasbro website.

[CobraCoffee]

anyone have any extras available? i missed out on getting them on the hasbro website.

I responded to your other thread... check your PMs

[Captain STEVEN DePACE]

What is wrong with you guys? This poor guy has a valid point and you rip him apart for it!

At what level are you a true GI Joe fan? Just because you bought 3 or 4 of a rare figure and you don't sell them does not make you more of a fan then a guy who buys the same and only keeps one.

Look, I'm a huge GI Joe fanatic, but I am also a real, live, enterprising person! If there is demand! I'm gonna capitolize on it! What's wrong with it? That's called being business savvy.


So I'm not a true G.I.Joe fan because I don't have to sell G.I.Joes to people to make the money I spent on Joes back?

[satanshollow]

Man, it would be nice just to have 1 for my collection. I haven't really look into Joes for a few months now. Other than on ebay, I don't think hasbroshop ships to Canada any ways.

Can't even get Doc in Canada either.

[CobraCoffee]

So I'm not a true G.I.Joe fan because I don't have to sell G.I.Joes to people to make the money I spent on Joes back?

Dude.

Really.


Reeeeeeaaaallly.


You need to read posts fully and comprehend what is being said in it before you go off on a rant response.

When the comment, and I quote "At what level are you a true GI Joe fan? Just because you bought 3 or 4 of a rare figure and you don't sell them does not make you more of a fan then a guy who buys the same and only keeps one."

It was to stress that there is NO STANDARD to judge fandom and to back offa people who take a different approach to collecting then you. That was the point. Capeesh?

[CG76]

A good investment is something that can generate income. That said any item that fails to generate any form income is susceptible to volatile prices swings. So if you want to sell right away, you might not get the return that you want. Scarcity plays a factor too. But my main point is that toys are generally not a good investment unless you have something very rare and you got that at a low price.

[Shogi]

since so many people have the black cc's now it kind of sucks in a way in the sense that it has taken value away from them. im glad everyone who wants one is able to get one and i dont care because im not trying to sell them like crazy or anything but its like they have no value now.

when they first dropped people were willing to pay 50.00 all day for one. atleast the blue cc's are still worth something. but my point is that they should of only made a low amount so that they were more a valuable piece. anyone understand what im getting at?

This was Hasbro's plan, they decided to make more exclusives this year because the PDD's sold out so quickly last year. Hasbro wanted more fans to get the exclusive this year.
Yeah the value is a bit lower right now, but I'm sure it'll go up again. I remember plenty of figures throughout the whole 25th line that started low and have gone on to crazy prices now. Then there's some that were crazy prices and dropped to low (Shipwreck anyone? :) )

[CG76]

Another example of that Hasbro listening to its fan base. Plus they probably didn't like the eBay speculation explosion.

This was Hasbro's plan, they decided to make more exclusives this year because the PDD's sold out so quickly last year. Hasbro wanted more fans to get the exclusive this year.

[CobraCoffee]

Another example of that Hasbro listening to its fan base. Plus they probably didn't like the eBay speculation explosion.



I spoke with the designers of the actual figures at SDCC and a couple of the corp. wannabes.... Trust me. They could care less about anything that goes on Ebay. They have a bottom line to worry about.

They make predictions and purchases for a product for a certain production run and that's it. Minor tweeks are done due to demand but just becuase a Shipwreck with an Anchor starts selling for 4X the price, they don't go running to the boardroom.

[CobraCoffee]

A good investment is something that can generate income. That said any item that fails to generate any form income is susceptible to volatile prices swings. So if you want to sell right away, you might not get the return that you want. Scarcity plays a factor too. But my main point is that toys are generally not a good investment unless you have something very rare and you got that at a low price.

I agree. I have found success with it as a side hobby (and made some good $$ for my other guys!)

[darthdoug]

I have not received SDCC CC yet. I'm interested in Black or Blue. Anyone want to sell one for $15?

[CG76]

That may be true, but they did try to limit people to buying just 1 Blue and 2 Blacks per person. So they may have tried to prevent selling to folks at the convention from purchasing more in order to sell on eBay (e.g. scalpers).

I spoke with the designers of the actual figures at SDCC and a couple of the corp. wannabes.... Trust me. They could care less about anything that goes on Ebay. They have a bottom line to worry about.

They make predictions and purchases for a product for a certain production run and that's it. Minor tweeks are done due to demand but just becuase a Shipwreck with an Anchor starts selling for 4X the price, they don't go running to the boardroom.

[Roadblock Recall]

I have not received SDCC CC yet. I'm interested in Black or Blue. Anyone want to sell one for $15?

I'll sell you one for $30, and I'll even scent it with perfume.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Well I have a baby on the way and if that Crap Figure can fetch me $100 or more down the road then Ill sale it..........not to keen on the Indiana Jones Body anyway.........

[darthdoug]

My offer still stands at $15.

[CobraCoffee]

That may be true, but they did try to limit people to buying just 1 Blue and 2 Blacks per person. So they may have tried to prevent selling to folks at the convention from purchasing more in order to sell on eBay (e.g. scalpers).



I think they should have offered the blue only at the conventionand the black only on Hasbro.com

[gunslingercbr]

and you say they made a small amount well why is there about 3-5 on every page of ebay? thats not small amount compared to the sdcc destros. and by the way you dont have to be such a polesmoker when you reply to a thread, im sick of everyone being a ahole when im just making conversation.

because people picked them up for the sole intent of selling them and making money. the amount on ebay isn't an absolute indicator of how many were made, it reflects how many are attempting to be sold on the secondary market. in fact, that is why the value has dropped -- everyone is trying to sell them at once so there are many to choose from, not because too many were made. you've attempted to simplify the matter when there are numerous factors that are affecting it's current value.

[gunslingercbr]

First of all the SDCC Cobra
As far as the original poster goes, its sounds to me like he's having buyers remorse at this point. He bought a Black CC off of ebay for $52 and then bought several more from HTS and now he's upset because he 1. lost money on the one he got off of ebay and 2. he can't sell the ones he got from HTS to offset what he paid for the ebay one.

ding!ding!ding!ding!ding! we have a winner!

[cmderinchief]

Does anyone know the final product count?

Last year roughly 5000 Destros were produced. 20% of that were gold. I can say what the final count was this year, but I do know that the Blue Suit CCs make up less than 20% of the total run. I hope this answers part of your question.

[Zefram]

I just looked on Fleabay and they definately aren't selling for what sellers obviously think they should. The really sad thing? Not a single one loose. Same with Silver PDD. For the love of God! Toys are meant to be played with!

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more sitting around MOC than loose, and that's the common versions! How does anybody expect a toy to become valuable if every existing one is MOMC?!?!

I say screw it, and make a whole other run of Silver PPD and Black Suit CC, as much as we can stomach, for the people who want toys and display pieces instead of wall-art and leave the super-rare varients for the hardcore collectors.

[darthdoug]

[QUOTE=Zefram;259134]I just looked on Fleabay and they definately aren't selling for what sellers obviously think they should. QUOTE]

I love it... "FLEABAY".

[AlternateUniverse Steeler]

destro was this cheap for a while and now hes expensive. we are only a few weeks out from the con.

[statesofeuphoria]

Who cares?? It is a lame assed figure anyway.