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DESTRO
10-17-2011, 04:45 PM
If you get excited about anything that went on at NYCC 2011 this should be it! Get a copy while you still can, very limited print and your going to want to pay attention to this in the future.

UNIT-E NYCC 2011 EXCLUSIVE COMIC HASBRO UNIVERSE ISSUE 0? - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/comics-8/unit-e-nycc-2011-exclusive-comic-hasbro-universe-issue-0-10784/)

If you have read the comic, and want to add onto the story post away. This is going to be EPIC!

Battleship Galaxies looks like Robotech and Battlestar Galactica in one brand.

M.A.S.K. is a reboot, looks like they are trying to merge C.O.P.S. with Classic M.A.S.K. looks good.

Action-Man reminds me of the Punisher

UNIT-E looks to be some sort of M.I.B. space agency with advanced tech. No real images shown.

Stretch Armstrong is very X-Men like.

Primordia is InHumanoids.

G1 Transformers

G.I. Joe

One panel looks like it could be Dino Riders.

Centurions

Micronauts

Big IV
10-17-2011, 04:50 PM
So, anyone heard about plans to release the 0 issue beyond NYCC? It seems like it would make a good give away book at the local comic shops to promote the Unit*E project.

I'd love to read a copy and I'm sure other fans of those brands would as well.

I've read about it here, on TFW and of course on KittysPryde.com (http://www.kitspryde.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=5324&p=33359&hilit=MASK#p339). It sounds cool. It is part of the underrated news, but more importantly how do fans get copies?

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 04:51 PM
Where would i get it from now?? Ebay?? Anyone on here got copies to shift??

DESTRO
10-17-2011, 04:53 PM
Hasbro Toy Shop may have them? I know there are a few on eBay, these were not free you had to buy them. I asked about a reprint but they said NO it's a NYCC 2011 exclusive.

coreystinson
10-17-2011, 05:06 PM
I'm sorry but this is just plain stupid and isn't going anywhere. What makes Hasbro think that anyone cares about a crossover of such a potpourri of product?

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 05:18 PM
I'm sorry but this is just plain stupid and isn't going anywhere. What makes Hasbro think that anyone cares about a crossover of such a potpourri of product?

Well i think its a pretty good idea for a comic book,most people are familiar with all the properties involved,and im interested to see what they have planned for it,surely it would make more sense to:

A) Actually read the damn thing.
B) Check out other peoples thoughts and opinions

Before you start naysaying,ridiculing,and making sweeping statements about what anyone may or may not care about.but hey congratulations on joining the herd of negative over-opinionated people that seem hell-bent on sucking every shred of enjoyment out of this little hobby of ours.

coreystinson
10-17-2011, 05:27 PM
A) Actually read the damn thing.


I have no interest in this whatsoever.


B) Check out other peoples thoughts and opinions


I most certainly will.

While I think there is crossover appeal in something like M.A.S.K. and GI JOE, which are similar in certain respects and attract a similar audience, for Hasbro to throw everything together in a cross-promotion attempt will, in my opinion, not be all that successful. Even Transformers/GI JOE crossovers in comics have, historically, not been all that popular. It is hard for me to imagine JEM fans having any interest *at all* in following such a thing and Microman/Micronauts fans, while probably pretty comfortable with a property like Transformers, would probably find the inclusion of GI JOE or JEM or (god forbid) My Little Pony a bit odd. Good luck to them though!

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 05:37 PM
While I think there is crossover appeal in something like M.A.S.K. and GI JOE, which are similar in certain respects and attract a similar audience, for Hasbro to throw everything together in a cross-promotion attempt will, in my opinion, not be all that successful. Even Transformers/GI JOE crossovers in comics have, historically, not been all that popular. It is hard for me to imagine JEM fans having any interest *at all* in following such a thing and Microman/Micronauts fans, while probably pretty comfortable with a property like Transformers, would probably find the inclusion of GI JOE or JEM or (god forbid) My Little Pony a bit odd. Good luck to them though!

Fairplay to you Corey,for a well thought out reply! Nice to know that people of differing opinions can actually have a discussion in here!! Back on topic,limited run or not $25 for a single issue is running a bit rich for my humble tastes!!! Guess im gonna have to watch this from the sidelines (for the time being anyway!!)

Lody
10-17-2011, 05:44 PM
This sounds like a last ditch effort to garner withering interest in wavering lines or to try and get the Hasbro reps to show the higher ups that "See, people really do still care about (insert toy line here)"

Honestly, it sounds like a gigantic clusterfuck.

ZacWilliam
10-17-2011, 05:51 PM
1) isn't there already a thread for this?

2) There's no evidence Primordia has anything to do with Inhumanoids or is even anything like it other an there being some monsters...

Anyway, here's my review I typed up for elsewhere...

So since this is definately public now...

HasLabs Crossover Comic Review

First up, despite what many kinda assumed because of its placement on the top of the cover, Unit:E doesn't seem to be the name of this Comic crossover. It’s seems to be just another one of the properties crossing over inside whose logo happens to be placed near the top of the cover. So, cover promises Unit:E, Candyland, Stretch Armstrong, Battleship Galaxies, Primordia, The Action Man, Jem, MASK, and most especially Micronauts. That's definaely an unprecidented crossover. The inside of the cover tells us this is a HASLAB presentation, the comic is written by Andy Schmidt (I know) and drawn by more names than I have any interest in typing.

Review:

Now. A spaceship. Unseen figures discuss someone waking up. The figure almost immediately flashes back to being a boy with his elderly father in helmetless Acroyear armor telling him that it is “time.” In the present the young man with the cyborg arm greats Biotron from Micronauts and a hologram woman who we learn via flashback is Synergy (originally from Jem, now apparently moonlighting as Cortana) a trusted ally given to him by his father. They are under attack. They don’t answer his question about who is attacking, but reveal that they are taking him to Earth to find teammates with a unique noble spirit. Apparently we have a lot of this on Earth so here they are. They pull a Han Solo in an asteroid field to lose the attackers. (And we see that it looks like there’s a giant Biotron making up the bottom of the ship. I don’t know Micronauts, is that normal? He’s definitely mentally linked to the ship here.) Syn shows him shots of his prospective allies in a big spread: All the properties on the cover + Transformers + G.I. Joe + Drizit. I actually forgot Hasbro owned DnD for a second and that surprised me, then I remembered and wished again they’d use some real synergy and do a DnD toyline and cartoon for kids again.

Anyway, now we do focus pages on each property as they are detailed for the young Acroyear. First up is a two page spread of Stretch Armstrong reimagined as a sort of young, tech augmented, Reed Richards, and the first Superhero on this version of Earth. He trains and leads a team of heroes known as the Flex Fighters.

Next up is MASK. They kept the name, the name Matt Trakker, the transforming vehicles and the masks but the story seems to be totally different. It’s an urban dystopia future Detroit abandoned by the government, with social services shut down. Police officer Matt Trakker and his 4 civil servant friends found an ancient cache from some group called “the League of Ancient Wheelmen” and are using that tech to augment themselves and their vehicles and fight for their disintegrating city. Reading it now, it’s not a bad set up for a toyline/comicbook adventure really, but I was thrown on my first read by just how different it is from Classic MASK. Like the art on the characters a lot here definately.

Next is JEM. Nice art here too. This seems to be Jerrica just before becoming JEM, (Which makes sense as she needs Synergy for that.) Synergy expresses special protectiveness towards Jerrica and says that even without powers she has a great destiny composing the “music of the spheres.” (Seriously. I wonder if that was speaking figuratively or if JEM’s music will really have Bill and Ted/Lynn Minme power…)

Next is Action Man. I know little of him but it’s a nice set up. A legacy of Heroes who pass on their memories and abilities, the last one having gone bad and become a villain, the new one fights against him. I also like that this is the first of the Good guys that young Acroyear likes at least somewhat.

Now, Battleship Galaxies. Set in a possible future from the “Now” the heroes of the ISN Everest fight against a bunch of supervillian names in a war they should not be able to win. Is this a game? Is there a Sci Fi Battleship variant?

And then she reminds him of his own history as an excuse for an admittedly fairly awesome Micronauts two page spread. Micronauts was before my time really, but I have to say these look awesome, and I would totally buy a toyline that looked this cool.

Now comes Unite:E they’re a group of “Challengers of the Unknown” and investigators of the eerie who operate from a space station called Skybolt outside of reality to protect reality. All we get to see are silhouettes and a shot of the space station. Interesting concept. Looks like it would be more cartoon than toyline oriented from what little we see here, but who knows…

Heh… and here’s Candyland. Acro Jr rightly laughs, but Synergy says that though the Fairies may look silly or childish, they can be powerful and dangerous when they choose to cross over to our plain of reality. It’s about as well as you could link Candyland to these more serious older properties.

And lastly we have Primordia… giant Kaiju meets Inhumanoids-ish monsters in a city. Only one of them can speak apparently, they have some vastly developed beast instinct that makes them dangerous, they are mysterious and they may be allies or enemies. It’s hard to say what this is with the little info we get, all I know is I really wish it were Metlar, Tendrill, and Decompose on these pages.

The kid doubts any of these earth heroes have the power or ability to help him defeat Baron Karza, but then remembers what his father said as he granted him the armor and named him the new Acroyear and suddenly the armor is on him as he decides that they will make it work and that he has heroes to gather!

Lastly we get an explanation from Andy that this isn’t meant to set any status quo for these properties but is a fun “What-IF love letter” to the properties and the brands. He wants to know if folks liked it, cause if they did they might do more or more like it. (He also mentions that other properties like Centurions are Easter Egged inside. Didn’t know Hasbro owned them, and regardless I couldn’t find that one. Can anyone help me out there?)

Overall thoughts… I liked this. It definitely reads better when it’s not 1am (as when I first read it). Nice art (very nice in some spots) and cute crossover concepts. It is all basically set up for the idea of a crossover though. I’d love if this was something Hasbro did more issues of as I’d really like to see the story actually get to the crossover part of the story. Then there’d also be room to really get to know the properties and how they interact AND to work in Inhumanoids and Visionaries darn it! So overall? It’s a fun little what if lark if you’re a fan of these properties, but I wish we were maybe really getting this story, rather than just imagining the possibility of it, y’know.


-ZacWilliam, I’d definitely snag a physical copy if I ever get the chance, just as a curiosity if nothing else. But I hope they do more. It's just too geeky not to love...

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 05:52 PM
Honestly, it sounds like a gigantic clusterfuck.

Heh clusterfuck is a great turn of phrase,i really need to use it more often......

coreystinson
10-17-2011, 05:55 PM
To me, this looks like an effort to further homogenize and streamline design/development and marketing. I am sure some MBA thinks this is awesome in theory. One can certainly appreciate the reasoning for trying it from a business standpoint. We can see this pattern emerging in recent years when Hasbro produces the same type of product across multiple brands. As a consumer and retailer I would question whether that is appropriate for those different demographics.

For example, those fat-headed figures from a few years ago the name for which I cannot remember. Even if that worked for for say, Marvel or Star Wars, did GI JOE fans really want that stuff? I can't even find a reference to those over on Yo Joe! perhaps reinforcing my opinion (although they could be buried somewhere).

I think it is OK for fan interest not to be shoehorned into a one-size-fits-all streamlined marketing channel, but others are of course free to disagree. The GI JOE story and universe is very rich, I just have very little interest in seeing it crossed over with such unlike properties. Action Man/M.A.S.K., maybe. Micronauts, Transformers, JEM, etc.? No thanks.

ZacWilliam
10-17-2011, 05:57 PM
It was just meant to be some light fun that played with a bunch of older/currently fallow Hasbro propertries.

In that light I think it was a neat geeky enterprise. A fun celebration of neat old toys at Hasbro isn't using otherwise right now and a few peeks at new things at may be comming soon.


-ZacWilliam, would like to see more, As I said in the big review on the previous page, Inhumanoids and Visionaries especially,

DESTRO
10-17-2011, 05:57 PM
1) isn't there already a thread for this?

2) There's no evidence Primordia has anything to do with Inhumanoids or is even anything like it other an there being some monsters...


Good review but it's definitely Inhumanoids.

ero
10-17-2011, 05:57 PM
M.A.S.K.[/B] is a reboot, looks like they are trying to merge C.O.P.S. with Classic M.A.S.K. looks good.

Oooh! I wondered this when I saw one of the MASK guys was a cop. Interesting.

Can't say I'm psyched for reboots, but if it brings classic updates along with it, I'd be very grateful.


This sounds like a last ditch effort to garner withering interest in wavering lines or to try and get the Hasbro reps to show the higher ups that "See, people really do still care about (insert toy line here)"

I think this is probably correct.

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 06:16 PM
Gotta say ZacWilliam,you painted a great picture of #0,i love grand sci-fi opera and toys....and this has both in spades!! The only thing thats pissed me off is i was working on an OC universe for my customs that would see heroes and villains from different realities battling a huge Chaos army thats tearing its way through time and space,the idea behind this book sounds like its along similar lines dammit!!!

orezona
10-17-2011, 06:32 PM
Good review but it's definitely Inhumanoids.

Yeah, I knew I recognized D'Compose and Tendril.

In another universe, another dimension if you will, they would make this into an epic animated mini series and Chris Latta would be like Mel Blanc doing half of the voice acting for all of the villains.

Lody
10-17-2011, 06:49 PM
To me, this looks like an effort to further homogenize and streamline design/development and marketing. I am sure some MBA thinks this is awesome in theory. One can certainly appreciate the reasoning for trying it from a business standpoint. We can see this pattern emerging in recent years when Hasbro produces the same type of product across multiple brands. As a consumer and retailer I would question whether that is appropriate for those different demographics.

For example, those fat-headed figures from a few years ago the name for which I cannot remember. Even if that worked for for say, Marvel or Star Wars, did GI JOE fans really want that stuff? I can't even find a reference to those over on Yo Joe! perhaps reinforcing my opinion (although they could be buried somewhere).

I think it is OK for fan interest not to be shoehorned into a one-size-fits-all streamlined marketing channel, but others are of course free to disagree. The GI JOE story and universe is very rich, I just have very little interest in seeing it crossed over with such unlike properties. Action Man/M.A.S.K., maybe. Micronauts, Transformers, JEM, etc.? No thanks.

Are you talking about Might Muggs?

If so, those were more of a novelty and collectible item.

THAT I don't have an issue but when Jem starts getting packaged with an Mutore from Inhumanoids with her little sidekick Micronaut....I draw that line.

Lody
10-17-2011, 06:51 PM
Will I check it out? I don't know.

As soon as I heard just a little bit of the premise I was immediately turned off.

I will probably read the synopsis a few times when the first few books come out and see if it interests me at all, but I am pretty sure it's a no go even this early in the venture.

TYPHUS
10-17-2011, 06:59 PM
THAT I don't have an issue but when Jem starts getting packaged with an Mutore from Inhumanoids with her little sidekick Micronaut....I draw that line.


But you would pick one up for me right???

700block
10-17-2011, 08:00 PM
does anyone have scans of the comic book?

Shin Densetsu
10-17-2011, 08:07 PM
Hasbro's New Trademark Hints An Upcoming Venture - GI Joe News (http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/gi-joe-movie-2/hasbros-new-trademark-hints-an-upcoming-venture-10648/)

One of the categories the trademark is under is motion picture. If you look at the complete description, lots of toys, including anything from modeling clay(play doh), transforming robots, role play items(masks and guns) to action figures are covered.

Lody
10-17-2011, 08:45 PM
But you would pick one up for me right???

I'll pick up something for anybody if they ask. I won't force my beliefs and whether or not I like something on someone else.

ZacWilliam
10-17-2011, 09:49 PM
Good review but it's definitely Inhumanoids.

Well they are monsters, but otherwise they seem nothing like them.

None of them look more than remotely and generically even a little bit like any of the Inhumanoids. There are more of them than there ever we're Inhumanoids. And the text description of what they are like and the name of one of them given are nothing like the Inhumanoids really at all.

I think it's rather more likely to be an entirely new seperate thing.


-ZacWilliam, Thinks it also seems unlikely that they would have lost the rights to the name "The Inhumanoids" relating to a toyline

DESTRO
10-18-2011, 04:50 PM
So if Hasbro were to do a Toy Line for UNIT-E or Hasbro Universe, what would your Wave 1 Figure Assortment be?


LEORIC - Spectral Knights Visionaries
MATT TRAKKER - M.A.S.K. from the UNIT-E POLICE version.
ACRO JR. Micronauts.
BUMBLEBEE Transformers, with that awesome version from the UNIT-E Book
Kelek Evil Sorcerer Dungeons & Dragons
Jake Rockwell Centurions


Sound Off!

TYPHUS
10-18-2011, 05:53 PM
I'll pick up something for anybody if they ask. I won't force my beliefs and whether or not I like something on someone else.

Sorry mate wasnt implying that at all,it was a lighthearted comment made just because you have offered to hook me up with stuff in the past, (much appreciated too!!)

So if Hasbro were to do a Toy Line for UNIT-E or Hasbro Universe, what would your Wave 1 Figure Assortment be?


LEORIC - Spectral Knights Visionaries
MATT TRAKKER - M.A.S.K. from the UNIT-E POLICE version.
ACRO JR. Micronauts.
BUMBLEBEE Transformers, with that awesome version from the UNIT-E Book
Kelek Evil Sorcerer Dungeons & Dragons
Jake Rockwell Centurions


Sound Off!

Oooooo now your talking!! But i do have a question....are we to presume that "bad" characters in the hasbro-verse will side with the "bad guys" story-wise??

Gyre-Viper
10-18-2011, 06:03 PM
So if Hasbro were to do a Toy Line for UNIT-E or Hasbro Universe, what would your Wave 1 Figure Assortment be?


LEORIC - Spectral Knights Visionaries
MATT TRAKKER -
ACRO JR. Micronauts.
BUMBLEBEE Transformers, with that awesome version from the UNIT-E Book
Kelek Evil Sorcerer Dungeons & Dragons
Jake Rockwell Centurions


Sound Off!



NO. If they ever do another Matt Trakker it better be the RHINO version damn it!!!!!!!!

Shin Densetsu
10-18-2011, 07:43 PM
So if Hasbro were to do a Toy Line for UNIT-E or Hasbro Universe, what would your Wave 1 Figure Assortment be?


LEORIC - Spectral Knights Visionaries
MATT TRAKKER - M.A.S.K. from the UNIT-E POLICE version.
ACRO JR. Micronauts.
BUMBLEBEE Transformers, with that awesome version from the UNIT-E Book
Kelek Evil Sorcerer Dungeons & Dragons
Jake Rockwell Centurions


Sound Off!

That Bumblebee was tight, like a modernized G1 even moreso than the 2006 Classics version was.

Here's my list:

Baron Karza from Micronauts
Green dude from Centurions
Doubledealer from Transformers
All new G1 Megatron full articulated and WITH the gimmicks that the Microchange/G1 version had so it can be used as a playset

THE RED SHADOWS
10-19-2011, 02:33 AM
Here's a little something we've been working on the last 3 years, ready to launch sometime in November/December !

The guys over at BFTB (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com) has been clamouring for an HASBRO universe and this is what they got coming for us soon!

TYPHUS
10-19-2011, 04:02 AM
Nice!! Can you tell us anymore?? How will it work??is it an online comic book??

THE RED SHADOWS
10-19-2011, 04:22 AM
keep checking out BFTB (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com) for more details

BUT..............
there will be a massive event launched next month with several of these series starting within days/weeks of each other

It will not be an on-line comic though. They will be printed up in a small/limited amount and will be based on Pre-orders.

HOWEVER 5 Page PREVIEWS WILL BE SHOWN for each book, on the BFTB (http://www.bloodforthebaron.com) forums !

THIS IS A MASSIVE undertaking by the Joe Community and people like this own sites M. Renegade is a major part of these books.

ero
10-19-2011, 02:06 PM
NO. If they ever do another Matt Trakker it better be the RHINO version damn it!!!!!!!!

^^This to the nth degree.

I'm fine with Unit-E and any reboots it would entail, but I want it to be a vehicle for delivering classic updates in the mix. Kinda like the Thundercats approach (but maybe all in the same scale).

Shin Densetsu
10-19-2011, 04:25 PM
I want to see FLYING FIGHTERS make a comeback in UnitE!

THE RED SHADOWS
10-30-2011, 09:59 AM
Here we go with our version of the Hasbro Universe

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/comic-books-discussion/96984-action-force-argen-7-action-man-ww-iii-interludes-rising-sun-comics-preview-thread-2.html

Flint071
10-30-2011, 10:18 AM
I am kinda digging that MASK reboot.