Gold PDD re-released?

[Mr. G]

Does anyone know if Hasbro made more Gold PDDs for this years SDCC? I recently saw a picture of a "Comic Con Destro" Hasbro factory box with the date code "81921". This led me to believe that Hasbro has produced Gold PDDs this year. Can anyone elaborate on this matter? Any insights? I also can't help but notice that Gold PDDs have been appearing more often on ebay, this makes me wonder.

I will post pics of the box tonight.

[The Commander]

No more PDD, not sure what you saw.

[Hicks_Royel]

An abomination created by Hasbro's secret inner sect to confuse and anger the masses with half truths and mysterious origins.

[Lantern_Lad]

An abomination created by Hasbro's secret inner sect to confuse and anger the masses with half truths and mysterious origins.

Kind of like when Mattel made an animated Hal Jordan... just to say it was only for employees.

F--kers

[Mr. G]

"The Commander" what I saw was a Hasbro factory box of 8 Gold PDD. The box read "GIJ COMIC CON DESTRO ASST 2 07" and the date code on the box was "81921". From my understanding date codes that start with an 8 are recent. Last years date codes began with a 7.

[Roadblock Recall]

mistake on the box, or mistake by you. that's what I'm going with.

[The Commander]

mistake on the box, or mistake by you. that's what I'm going with.

I concur. At least let's see a pic. I'll check the code on my gold PDD to see if it has an 8 or 7.

[ladyhump]

Mine is 71112

[Mr. G]

mistake on the box, or mistake by you. that's what I'm going with.
Both the figure's card and the box have the "81921" stamp. I doubt it was a mistake. All I'm saying is don't be surpriced if we see more of these new Gold PDDs start to pop up.

[Roadblock Recall]

you saw a picture of this, right? you didn't see it in person?

we recently saw a picture of white carded Doc figure.....which turned out to be a phoney. It was a very real looking picture too.

[Rickd3508]

I just bought one from this guy. Hope hes Legit! Guess we'll see when it comes in?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0491.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0492.jpg

[gunslingercbr]

Both the figure's card and the box have the "81921" stamp. I doubt it was a mistake. All I'm saying is don't be surpriced if we see more of these new Gold PDDs start to pop up.
how do you know they weren't silver PDD's?

EDIT: I see.

[Lion]

I was at SDCC and really only saw one or two GPDDs at all...if they were re-released, I missed em and mad.

[Roadblock Recall]

I just bought one from this guy. Hope hes Legit! Guess we'll see when it comes in?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0491.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0492.jpg

the date code on that box conveniently has the year blurred out

[Storm.Shadow]

Hmm, this is very puzzling. I can't see Hasbro re-releasing that figure in particular, but who knows.

[dawg99]

I just bought one from this guy. Hope hes Legit! Guess we'll see when it comes in?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0491.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0492.jpg

how much u pay for it

[DOC]

I just bought one from this guy. Hope hes Legit! Guess we'll see when it comes in?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0491.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0490.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/IMG_0492.jpg

Soly Hhit!!!
That guy is sitting on like, Low end $2000.00 if he sold them for $250 each! Ha and I would Open Goldie If I ever found another one.......

[Rickd3508]

I gave 250 shipped

[Hicks_Royel]

All things considered, I guess that's not a bad price. Could've been $400 after all.

[SNAKE EYES]

the date code on that box conveniently has the year blurred out

No it's not is says "DESTRO ASST 2 07"
You can see it in the second and third pics. Unless thats not what you were talking about, but I didn't see anything blurred out in any of the pics.

[Roadblock Recall]

No it's not is says "DESTRO ASST 2 07"
You can see it in the second and third pics. Unless thats not what you were talking about, but I didn't see anything blurred out in any of the pics.

i think the 07 was about the 07 convention that this fig was made for. under that (you'll have to zoom) there's a 5 or 6 digit code that indicates the date that the case was packaged. the first number of that code represents the year. but some photoshopping has blurred out that important digit.

[Mr. G]

i think the 07 was about the 07 convention that this fig was made for. under that (you'll have to zoom) there's a 5 or 6 digit code that indicates the date that the case was packaged. the first number of that code represents the year. but some photoshopping has blurred out that important digit.

I dont know what picture you are looking at. Here is a close up.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3286/img0490tw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2438/img0490closeupaz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Roadblock Recall]

I'm "looking at" the picture that Rickd3508 posted. Is there another one I would be looking at?

yup, the first digit is conveniently blurred. Like I asked you before, have you seen this case in person or are you just going off of an easily photoshopped picture?

[QBERT]

another hoax.

[ladyhump]

That date code is a seperate piece of paper/tape. You can see the edges in the close up.

[ladyhump]

I've got a Wave 9 box that my case from BBTS shipped in and it's the same way. Doesn't seem too hard to duplicate it but I'm not saying that's what happened here.

[SNAKE EYES]

The code looks like its 81921 so does that mean they were made in 2008?

[Code]

The code looks like its 81921 so does that mean they were made in 2008?

yes, if the first digit is year.

Can someone confirm that first digit = year? call hasbro or something?

[SNAKE EYES]

i think the 07 was about the 07 convention that this fig was made for. under that (you'll have to zoom) there's a 5 or 6 digit code that indicates the date that the case was packaged. the first number of that code represents the year. but some photoshopping has blurred out that important digit.

They second pic from Rickd3508 does not have that number you reffered to blurred out. It is just hard to read, but when you zoom in you can read it.



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[Roadblock Recall]

yes, if the first digit is year.

Can someone confirm that first digit = year? call hasbro or something?

yes, it's the year. But this pic, or the box, appear to have been altered.

[Code]

This is a very interesting topic, if the it was re-released what is the value on it? Who got em?

Does 7xxxx become worth more?
worth less?

How much to pay for 8xxxx? If they exist.

Anyone have a picture of the actual toy?

[SNAKE EYES]

I'm pretty sure the 8 does mean 2008 because I just looked at my case of wave 9 figures and the first digit is 8 and we all know wave 9 was made in 2008. I hope they do relese more PD Destro's then maybe more of us can get one. I know it seems weird for Hasbro to do it, but who knows when it comes to Hasbro :)


EDIT:
If we can get a close up of the back of the card with the date stamp that would almost confirm it because it would be very hard to photoshop the date stamp imprint. IMO

[Roadblock Recall]

EDIT:
If we can get a close up of the back of the card with the date stamp that would almost confirm it because it would be very hard to photoshop the date stamp imprint. IMO

Aren't the date stamps on just the black part of the cards? If so, it would be easy to photoshop a datestamp from a later released figure, and paste it onto the back of a PDD figure.

[SNAKE EYES]

True, but if he photoshopped just the 8 on the box/case then he has to find the same 4 digits and add an 8 to the beginning of the 4 digits from the box/case on the cardback so it matchs the original number/date stamp. I doubt anyone would go through that much trouble to fake that Hasbro is making more Gold PDD's. It's not like it is raising the market value of Gold PDD's by having more released so what does anyone gain by lying about this.


SEE)

[QBERT]

I hope they do relese more PD Destro's then maybe more of us can get one.

The whole reason people want one is because of it's scarcity. If everyone can have/get one, nobody will want it. Is that so hard to understand? It's like having a Buzzer.

[Roadblock Recall]

so what does anyone gain by lying about this.


SEE)

people enjoy creating hoaxes. much like someone photoshopped a white card 25th style Doc, there's nothing to gain except to fool others.

[SNAKE EYES]

The whole reason people want one is because of it's scarcity. If everyone can have/get one, nobody will want it. Is that so hard to understand? It's like having a Buzzer.


Dude I understand the point of it, but I still want one whether there is only 500 in existence or 50,000, I don't care :D


What are you talking about I never found a Buzzer you lucky bastard :)

[Code]

question is : which one is more rare the 81912 or the 71112!

would 81912 be worth more since its a variation?

[Mr. G]

the guys who sent me these pics didnt notice the date code...I did and brought it to his attention. He said he had a box of gold Destros so I asked him to prove it...and he did by sending me those pics. I started this thread and I guarantee you guys this pic is not altered.

[QBERT]

Even if it was made in the beginning of this year, it's only 7 or 8? or is it cases upon cases being made?? I still do not believe it. If HASBRO is in fact making these again, I am out of this line forever.

[SNAKE EYES]

people enjoy creating hoaxes. much like someone photoshopped a white card 25th style Doc, there's nothing to gain except to fool others.

That part is true. HInsider got me on that one when I first saw those pics I bought it hook line and sinker. I was like that white card border and logo look great and Doc had the fixed arms/wrists.
I will even admit that I went to Wal-Mart later that day and bought 4 more comic packs to send in for a 3rd Doc(I already had 2 stickers left) then the next day I looked at the pics again and noticed that behind Doc it was still silver and not yellow like the new cards so yes I was fooled by photshop that time for sure :D

If this turns out to be a hoax then I guess I'm just super gullible (sp)

[Mr. G]

Why would anyone make a hoax out of this...if you are going to fake something atleast imitate the original

[Mr. G]

its simple, if someone knows a Hasbro rep, simply ask him. Are there still Gold PDDs being produced? And lets see what he says.

[Roadblock Recall]

Why would anyone make a hoax out of this...
why not?

[Roadblock Recall]

the guys who sent me these pics didnt notice the date code...I did and brought it to his attention. He said he had a box of gold Destros so I asked him to prove it...and he did by sending me those pics. I started this thread and I guarantee you guys this pic is not altered.


1. You can't guarantee it if you haven't seen it in person.

2. Where are the pictures of the card stamp?

[Mr. G]

why not?

There is no point Roadblock. Im telling you im the one who noticed the date code on the guys pic, he had know idea what I was talking about.

[Mr. G]

2. Where are the pictures of the card stamp?

Here it is:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/756/img0498datestamp2zc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[SNAKE EYES]

^That looks more than real enough to me.

[Roadblock Recall]

There is no point Roadblock. Im telling you im the one who noticed the date code on the guys pic, he had know idea what I was talking about.


That's cool. But I'm just going to remain skepticle about the authenticity of this. Until someone from Hasbro says otherwise, it's a fake.

[Mr. G]

honestly speaking this is the highest date stamp Ive seen to date. Not even the new Wave 9s have such a high number and my SDCC CCs have like 81412 or something like that

[Roadblock Recall]

honestly speaking this is the highest date stamp Ive seen to date. Not even the new Wave 9s have such a high number and my SDCC CCs have like 81412 or something like that

did you bother to ask him where and how he obtained this case?

[Mr. G]

^That looks more than real enough to me.

not to mention the guy sent it to me within 2 to 3 minutes of me asking him for it. Im chatting with him right now

[Mr. G]

did you bother to ask him where and how he obtained this case?

He obtained it from some guy that claims to be assoiciated with Hasbro. And I believe it, who else is goint to have a case of 8 Gold PDDs

[Roadblock Recall]

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I'm going to call bullshit on this one. Not on you G, but on your source.

[SNAKE EYES]

We know the first number is the year and I heard some of the other numbers refer to the month, but I am not sure.

Does anyone know what the other numbers mean for sure?

By the way Mr. G I am a true believer now before I was like 90% you were right 10% you were wrong, but now I'm 100% on your side.

[QBERT]

If i remember correctly....8 first signifies the year (obviously 2008). the second 3-digits signify the actual calender day (in this case 192 would be July 10th...which is the 192 day of this year) and the last isusually a 1 or 2 signifying the shift (1st or 2nd) it was made on at the facility.

[Roadblock Recall]

according to this date stamp, it was packaged on July 10th. which means it's taken a month since it's been packaged to be shipped from China to Hasbro, given to some guy that works there, who then sold it to the guy with the picture. I guess that's not an impossible timeline. But why would Hasbro spend the $$$ to remake this particular item that hasn't been produced in over a year....only to give it to some random collector?

Have your source ask his Hasbro hookup for an explanation.

[SNAKE EYES]

Thanks QBERT

[BatmanForever]

Long time lurker, first time poster!

This topic is just too interesting...

Question: If they wanted to produce "fake" ones they would have used the same time stamp no?

Pretty stupid if they didn't

If anything this might be a new authentic release that hasn't yet been announced perhaps?

[QBERT]

maybe either the number system is false (from what we have gathered since wave 1) or HASBRO just made Gold PDD's, which means I am out of this line for good.

Why bother to get rare items when they can just make more and make them worthless? The whole point of having something of value, is to trade or sell it. It's part of the hobby of collectibles. If things are never allowed to generate value, there is no point.

[mav55mdash]

Wish I had 1 of the gold or silver.

[SNAKE EYES]

This might be a stretch, but what if a factory worker produced a case at the factory to take from the factory to sell on the aftermarket, the machine would be set up to stamp the most recent date from when they were made. Half the people who buy these don't even know what the stamp means anyways.

I mean making these would be like printing money to sell on the aftermarket I don't know how hard this would be for a worker to do, but I can see someone wanting to try to do it.

Even if you sold each figure for 200.00 each thats 1,600.00 dollars he just made. We know workers take stuff to sell already so maybe it just happened on a larger scale.

This is just me trying to make sense of why Hasbro would make these exclusives again.


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[Mr. G]

If anything this might be a new authentic release that hasn't yet been announced perhaps?

Thats what Im thinking...Hasbro is preparing to re-release these again, maybe with the re-issues of the old figures coming up, who knows.

I checked out my latest buys and here is what I have to report as far as date stamps:

SDCC Black Suits (81401 & 81361)
SDCC Blue Suits (81361)
Combat Heroes (81431)
Wave 9 (81562)

None are them are even close to the (81921) that the Gold PDD has.

If the "Hasbro guy" really works for Hasbro its very much possible that he would get stuff first than any of us.

I believe Hasbro is going to make a second run of Gold PDDs soon and then, and only then, will you guys thank me, Mr. G for making such a great observation.

[BatmanForever]

One more comment b4 I sleep:

If this was indeed a rerun, shouldn't we see ebay flooded with these puppies?

I don't see many sellers?

[SNAKE EYES]

My wave 9 Hawk is 81562

P.S. My factory theory may be from lack of sleep :D

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Nice. If the info on the stamp is true that really kills the value of the figure and the thrill of having an item that isn't produced anymore. It would be nice to get one cheap but if I payed the current price for one and then it released again, I would not be stoked. So might as well wait until next year to get blue suit commander again. Saves me at least 100 dollars.

[Mr. G]

One more comment b4 I sleep:

If this was indeed a rerun, shouldn't we see ebay flooded with these puppies?

I don't see many sellers?

its not flooded but theres atleast 7 up right now. Thats more than usual. I should know Ive been wanting one for months.

[Roadblock Recall]

I believe Hasbro is going to make a second run of Gold PDDs soon and then, and only then, will you guys thank me, Mr. G for making such a great observation.

LOL....even I would thank you for that one buddy!!

Try to convince your guy to get more info from HIS guy.

[Roadblock Recall]

Why bother to get rare items when they can just make more and make them worthless? The whole point of having something of value, is to trade or sell it. It's part of the hobby of collectibles. If things are never allowed to generate value, there is no point.


many of us just enjoy collecting, regardless of how much value it generates. To many of us, it's a hobby for fun rather than some sort of investment.

[Mr. G]

LOL....even I would thank you for that one buddy!!

Try to convince your guy to get more info from HIS guy.

I will

[BatmanForever]

Yo, I think I just figured the situation out.

To make a rerun of these figures is absolutely stupid and too costly unless they plan on "ebaying" or selling it through some vent.

AS QBERT, or watever his name, said the numbers represent packaging date. Date Stamped of packaging.

So, I'm thinking...... these are authentic toys that didn't get packed till recently!

Date Stamp reflects "packaging date" not "creation" date.

[SNAKE EYES]

Mr. G keep us posted

DDD(

[Roadblock Recall]

Yo, I think I just figured the situation out.

To make a rerun of these figures is absolutely stupid and too costly unless they plan on "ebaying" or selling it through some vent.

AS QBERT, or watever his name, said the numbers represent packaging date. Date Stamped of packaging.

So, I'm thinking...... these are authentic toys that didn't get packed till recently!

Date Stamp reflects "packaging date" not "creation" date.


so you think they've had loose figures just laying around for over a year, then just one month ago they decided to put them on cards?

You bring up a good point though, could Hasbro be sneaking these into the market and making hundreds on each figure? I wouldn't put it past them after seeing that whole HTS PDD AFA bullshit they pulled last year.

[Mr. G]

another thing we havent discussed is the "ASST 2" on the box. wats the deal with that? I saw an empty box on ebay a few months back and I dont recall it saying "ASST 2"

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Flood Hasbro with email asking what it is. That should give them something to do tomorrow.
EMAIL US (http://hasbro.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/hasbro.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=mcjarbbj&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD01MDImcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N 2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfc GFnZT0x)

[hwheels2]

192nd day huh.thatd be what july 10th?
could they of really got however many made over to the states in time for the con?

[DOC]

If they Re release Goldy I'll be happy. Can finally get a Loose one!

[The Commander]

another thing we havent discussed is the "ASST 2" on the box. wats the deal with that? I saw an empty box on ebay a few months back and I dont recall it saying "ASST 2"

"ASST 2" means Gold Destro. "ASST 1" meant Silver.

[The Commander]

FYI I emailed them about it (Hasbro).

[Code]

so you think they've had loose figures just laying around for over a year, then just one month ago they decided to put them on cards?

You bring up a good point though, could Hasbro be sneaking these into the market and making hundreds on each figure? I wouldn't put it past them after seeing that whole HTS PDD AFA bullshit they pulled last year.

Man this is some bullshit hasbro ppl are pulling.

I don't know whether to sell my Golds ASAP or hold on to them. shit!

[Jism83]

has anyone ever been to these factorys? they have stuff laying around for months sometimes even years. they ususally over produce items to calculate in defects, human error..etc.

Its very possible they had a batch of these figures just chillin. Too bad they dont make them readily available to us. I wish i could pick one up at the $9 price tag

[gunslingercbr]

FYI I emailed them about it (Hasbro).
yes, I am certain the Hasbro customer service reps know all about this, they are brought into all the production and manufacturing meetings.

Man this is some bullshit hasbro ppl are pulling.

I don't know whether to sell my Golds ASAP or hold on to them. shit!
oh, no, Hasbro is going to ruin the value of my $9 toy I was hoping would pay for my next home's down payment. poor you, what a quandary you're in.

you kind of have to know your audience when making comments like that.

[QBERT]

you kind of have to know your audience when making comments like that.

No, you don't. He isn't worried about his "audience" because he is speaking from the heart, or truthfully/innocently without malice.
People would have every right to be super-upset because many paid through the nose on the secondary market for one.
I remember when they sold for an average of $450.00 and you only saw 1 or 2 at a time on ebay for a month period.

It is true that as of yesterday, there were like 8 or 9 gold PDD's on ebay, when up until a couple of days ago there were almost none for months now.

strange?.....yes.

[Irid70]

strange?.....yes.


Coincidence? Almost certainly.

[Ewokhunter92]

No, you don't. He isn't worried about his "audience" because he is speaking from the heart, or truthfully/innocently without malice.
People would have every right to be super-upset because many paid through the nose on the secondary market for one.
I remember when they sold for an average of $450.00 and you only saw 1 or 2 at a time on ebay for a month period.

It is true that as of yesterday, there were like 8 or 9 gold PDD's on ebay, when up until a couple of days ago there were almost none for months now.

strange?.....yes.

as strange as people here getting out of collecting and selling their collections?

It seems some people can't afford to sit on a $250-400 figure during these times. I know if I had one, I'd sell it in a heartbeat for that price range. It's a crap figure that can net me some funds to pick up ahelluva lot more current Joes I would really want.

or I could feed my family for a couple of weeks :)

[Roadblock Recall]

yes, I am certain the Hasbro customer service reps know all about this, they are brought into all the production and manufacturing meetings.


If the CS reps don't know, they can always inquire or direct you to someone who would know.

Do you always have to be so cynical or sarcastic?

[Jism83]

as strange as people here getting out of collecting and selling their collections?

It seems some people can't afford to sit on a $250-400 figure during these times. I know if I had one, I'd sell it in a heartbeat for that price range. It's a crap figure that can net me some funds to pick up ahelluva lot more current Joes I would really want.

or I could feed my family for a couple of weeks :)


man, im moving in a month with no job and im sitting on thousands of dollars in toys, but theres no way in hell i would ever sell any of my stuff

[Irid70]

man, im moving in a month with no job and im sitting on thousands of dollars in toys, but theres no way in hell i would ever sell any of my stuff


Well, not everyone has the same priorities.

I have to say I love sitting back and watching the carnage as the conspiracy theories and over-active imaginations fly. It really brightens my morning.

[Code]

I am going to email them too, find out what the $#%# is going on

[Code]

Here is my email:

"Dear Hasbro Representative,

It has been brought to my attention that there are 2007 Comic Con SDCC Gold Destros going around with the Date Stamp of "81921" on the backside.

I have a few questions:

1) Does 81921 mean this product was produced in 2008?
2) Do you guys know anything about this release?

We the people, fans of G.I. Joe, are very interested in finding out more. Please tell us all you can. Along with my email are couple pictures that show the Date Stamp.

I thank you in advance for your time.

Thank you,

Ed"

[Gunzlingr]

I think you guys better dump your PDDs before the market bottoms out.

I will give $10+shipping for one. That is right $10. Better strike while the iron is hot. :D

[MAJOR BLOOD]

I called Hasbro and they told me the number on the back was a product code. Date codes have 6 digits I was told. Hopefully this helps out. The PDD was discontinued as of May 2008. Call 1-800-327-8264 to get information.

[Roadblock Recall]

I called Hasbro and they told me the number on the back was a product code. Date codes have 6 digits I was told. Hopefully this helps out. The PDD was discontinued as of May 2008. Call 1-800-327-8264 to get information.

LOL...call them back and let them know the number on the case is listed under "Date Code", not Product Code. Ask for the person's email address so you can send the picture to.

btw..."May 2008" ????? wtf? Does that mean they were making some this year?

[ladyhump]

Must be damage control. Hasbro probably has big plans for the PDD's they were cranking out this year. AFA most likely.

[paulpratt]

many of us just enjoy collecting, regardless of how much value it generates. To many of us, it's a hobby for fun rather than some sort of investment.

Exactly. 90% of the people on this forum are here because they want to have a piece of their childhood. Most people probably keep them MOC so that they can have those memories forever. Value on toys is pointless.

[paulpratt]

btw..."May 2008" ????? wtf? Does that mean they were making some this year?

It might be employee runs or something of like. Something that they handed out.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Call and E mail! Demand answers. If they get enough inquiries, they will have to address the issue. I sent an email about this and how they came up with 50 flag points to order an extra Doc. Might as well try to get as much out of them as possible.

[Mr. G]

I emailed all of the guys selling gold PDDs on EBay as of last night and I found another 81921 but he claims he got it last year which is BS. 2007 Gold PDDs had 71112 on the back.

[Roadblock Recall]

I emailed all of the guys selling gold PDDs on EBay as of last night and I found another 81921 but he claims he got it last year which is BS. 2007 Gold PDDs had 71112 on the back.

Asking the Ebay guys was a good idea, i respect you for being proactive.
That guy with the 81921 may be telling the truth though, and the 8 stamp is simply just an error.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Is the date stamp a ship date or a date it was created?

[mckeesportpaguy]

i just paid 200 for 1 last week so if this was re released im gonna be pissed, but its more than likely an error or fake or possibly another AFA run for hasbro.

[Mr. G]

Asking the Ebay guys was a good idea, i respect you for being proactive.
That guy with the 81921 may be telling the truth though, and the 8 stamp is simply just an error.

the 8 might be an error but how about the 9? plus remember it matches the factory box

[Roadblock Recall]

the 8 might be an error but how about the 9? plus remember it matches the factory box

what "9" are you talking about?

[Roadblock Recall]

I just made a thread asking for those who have a GPDD to tell us what the date stamp says. If a few people say their's has the 8 stamp and they've had it since last year, then that solves the mystery...right?

[paulpratt]

i just made a thread asking for those who have a gpdd to tell us what the date stamp says. If a few people say their's has the 8 stamp and they've had it since last year, then that solves the mystery...right?

no that means variant!!!!!!!!!!! Now my unborn children can go to school now too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[polyphenus]

I just checked the two case boxes that I got from last year's SDCC. I have one case box from each assortment and they both have the "71112" date stamp on them.

*EDIT* I checked a picture that I took of one of my Gold PDD figures and the date stamp matches both boxes.

[Mr. G]

I just checked the two case boxes that I got from last year's SDCC. I have one case box from each assortment and they both have the "71112" date stamp on them.

*EDIT* I checked a picture that I took of one of my Gold PDD figures and the date stamp matches both boxes.

you collect boxes? Im looking for a wave 1 2007 box...do you have one?

[QBERT]

I just posted in the other thread that all my Gold SDCC Destro's have the "71112" stamp.

[Mr. G]

what "9" are you talking about?

the old ones are 71112 the news ones are 81921. Its not just the first 8 thats different, there's also that third 9. thats what I meant.

[Roadblock Recall]

the old ones are 71112 the news ones are 81921. Its not just the first 8 thats different, there's also that third 9. thats what I meant.

assuming it really was made in 2008....that 9 is simply part of what's known as a JULIAN DATE. the whole date is "192" which indicates the 192nd day of the year. Which means those figs were packaged just last month.

[Shogi]

Here's the break down on date code numbers:

The first one is the year: 7=2007, 8=2008

The next 3 are the date it was carded 111=one hundred and eleventh day of the year. each year has 365 days so the highest number for 2007 would be 73652

That brings us to the last number, which sadly, it seems no one quite knows about. There is speculation that it's the factory number, or how many lines of that product are being made, etc... Fact is, no one knows definately.

As for the PDD's in question, sadly, I only have 2 silvers. Both have the same number of 71112 One was gotten at SDCC and the other I think I got off of HTS. I'd be curious to know what the numbers on the back of the AFA ones HTS sold are.

Now here's the strange thing, I noticed about this year's SDCC CC. I have 2 blues I got from HTS at the same time. one has the number 81291 the other has 81361 meaning that the second one was carded 7 days after the first one and both of them were carded before this new GPDD.

[DOC]

Here's the break down on date code numbers:

The first one is the year: 7=2007, 8=2008

The next 3 are the date it was carded 111=one hundred and eleventh day of the year. each year has 365 days so the highest number for 2007 would be 73652

That brings us to the last number, which sadly, it seems no one quite knows about. There is speculation that it's the factory number, or how many lines of that product are being made, etc... Fact is, no one knows definately.

As for the PDD's in question, sadly, I only have 2 silvers. Both have the same number of 71112 One was gotten at SDCC and the other I think I got off of HTS. I'd be curious to know what the numbers on the back of the AFA ones HTS sold are.

Now here's the strange thing, I noticed about this year's SDCC CC. I have 2 blues I got from HTS at the same time. one has the number 81291 the other has 81361 meaning that the second one was carded 7 days after the first one and both of them were carded before this new GPDD.

My head Just exploded

[Commtech]

I believe Hasbro is going to make a second run of Gold PDDs soon and then, and only then, will you guys thank me, Mr. G for making such a great observation.


I hope you are joking with that last statement.

Anyway, whatever it is, I'm not selling mine and would actually welcome another one to open.

[ThreeHGame]

Even if it was made in the beginning of this year, it's only 7 or 8? or is it cases upon cases being made?? I still do not believe it. If HASBRO is in fact making these again, I am out of this line forever.

Wow, 4 pages before someone threatened to quit collecting. You guys are getting slow. It seems like the guys that are mad are the ones that own and over paid for a Gold PDD, the guys that believe it and are for it want one. Either way it is an ugly figure.

[Shogi]

assuming it really was made in 2008....that 9 is simply part of what's known as a JULIAN DATE. the whole date is "192" which indicates the 192nd day of the year. Which means those figs were packaged just last month.

Thursday, July 10th to be precise. When were these figures offered to be sold and where from? If it was from a seller in China, I could believe it, if it was from someone in the states, I'm a little skeptical as it usually takes a month for these cases to go through, the normal Hasbro shipping times to get here. This could be a case of someone in China bought it from the factory and then shipped it to the US in the air though

[Roadblock Recall]

Wow, 4 pages before someone threatened to quit collecting. You guys are getting slow. .

and only 8 pages after than till someone mocked him for it. So who's slow now?

It seems like the guys that are mad are the ones that own and over paid for a Gold PDD, the guys that believe it and are for it want one.
Not true. I don't have a Gold PDD and I think it's bullshit if Hasbro re-releases the figure.

[jgasbo1]

I hope they re-release these figures...$9.99 sounds about right for what we should pay for him!

[Roadblock Recall]

I hope they re-release these figures...$9.99 sounds about right for what we should pay for him!

I prefer 4.88

[Shin-Gouki]

Kids, these could be "Lunch Time Specials" Those of you that are TF Collectors know what I mean.

The workers in the factory take it upon them selves to make toys on the side for themselves that are unique or in this case rare as hell.

Examples would be the clear Takara Optimus Primes from a couple of years ago.

[Roadblock Recall]

Kids, these could be "Lunch Time Specials" Those of you that are TF Collectors know what I mean.

The workers in the factory take it upon them selves to make toys on the side for themselves that are unique or in this case rare as hell.

Examples would be the clear Takara Optimus Primes from a couple of years ago.


yup....that's what we're trying to figure out

[ThreeHGame]

and only 8 pages after than till someone mocked him for it. So who's slow now?

Not true. I don't have a Gold PDD and I think it's bullshit if Hasbro re-releases the figure.

Not slow, just bored with the endless posts in this thread repeating the basic info on how the date-numbers work. I figure at some point a mod will lock it until new info comes out.

[Roadblock Recall]

a mod just repeated the date system info on the previous page

[ThreeHGame]

I know, hence the nice hint to them that this is getting redundant. Either the figures are fakes, or there is a new batch of them. The way the collecters are going stupid over G.I. Joe stuff the price won't fall unless thousands of them turn up. If it's someone in the factory that came across some Gold PDD and some cards and put them together then so be it, that lucky worker found a way to make some cash. If it was a hasbro worker that had them made so bit, he found a way to make some more cash and if they are fakes then you guys know not to buy anything other then a 7112, and knowing is after all half the battle.

[gunslingercbr]

Kids, these could be "Lunch Time Specials" Those of you that are TF Collectors know what I mean.

The workers in the factory take it upon them selves to make toys on the side for themselves that are unique or in this case rare as hell.

Examples would be the clear Takara Optimus Primes from a couple of years ago.

but do they create shipping boxes and date stamp them, or do they simply make the toys.

[DOC]

Need Loose Goldy.......lol

[Shin-Gouki]

but do they create shipping boxes and date stamp them, or do they simply make the toys.

They have access to all the tools. If they wanted to make them for sale they could easily make the shipping boxes.

[Toymandon]

Personally, I am not at all surprised by this.. For 2 reasons:

1-Hasbro's History.. The AFA pieces they sold after they were sold out.. A sneaky move then, and I wouldnt be surprised if these pieces were indeed intended to be sent off for afa grading to be placed back on their website to make more money at a premium.

2-Or simpley a new run of figures that they are going to add to their website at the old con price. This is Hasbro, and for years, their explanaition has always been that the word "Exclusive", actually means "Exclusive - for that year", "Exclusive- early release","Exclusive - in that package".. Now this hasnt hit GI Joe too often, but collectors have seen it many times in other Hasbro lines.. Usually its store exclusives that later see mass release.

Or more recently, this years SDCC Cobra Commander.. Everyone keeps saying it's a con exclusive with the extras sold on HTS.. But HTS still has the figure listed(just as sold out), and it says in the item description "A HasbroToyShop.com Exclusive launched at Comic-Con "..... Am I the only one who reads that as "More are on the way and will be available at HTS"?

Either way, I find the date stamp believeable..

[CobraCoffee]

So while we are trying to solve this.... Mind if I ask if we make our next topic Area 51's actual contents after the Pimp Daddy Debacle ?

[Shin-Gouki]

Area 51 has a Ferengi ship, 3 Ferengi and Odo

[Jism83]

Area 51 has a Ferengi ship, 3 Ferengi and Odo

and KOTA and BOLO

[Shin-Gouki]

and KOTA and BOLO

Just BOLO, I killed KOTA

[Falcon Fury]

Here is my email:

"Dear Hasbro Representative,

It has been brought to my attention that there are 2007 Comic Con SDCC Gold Destros going around with the Date Stamp of "81921" on the backside.

I have a few questions:

1) Does 81921 mean this product was produced in 2008?
2) Do you guys know anything about this release?

We the people, fans of G.I. Joe, are very interested in finding out more. Please tell us all you can. Along with my email are couple pictures that show the Date Stamp.

I thank you in advance for your time.

Thank you,

Ed"

i'd really like to hear this corporate answer... :)

[The Commander]

Just to add fuel to the fire of speculation, both PDDs have been listed on Hasbro.com/GIJOE for over a year now and never taken down, although this year's SDCC exclusives cannot be easily found (unless you search by product number).

[DOC]

I'm Going to go ahead and say No New SDCC Destro's Will BE released. That way if I'm Wrong I can be Happy at the same time.

[ThreeHGame]

Or more recently, this years SDCC Cobra Commander.. Everyone keeps saying it's a con exclusive with the extras sold on HTS.. But HTS still has the figure listed(just as sold out), and it says in the item description "A HasbroToyShop.com Exclusive launched at Comic-Con "..... Am I the only one who reads that as "More are on the way and will be available at HTS"?

Either way, I find the date stamp believeable..

That and the fact that Hasbro never really said what the print runs for the Comic Con figures makes this seem more and more like a Hasbro money grab.

[gunslingercbr]

They have access to all the tools. If they wanted to make them for sale they could easily make the shipping boxes.

obviously, but the "lunch time special" that you are referring to, are they usually made in conjunction with shipping boxes and date stamped. if not, why would do so for these?

[Hellion42]

It would be nice to see these get re-released, but even if they make it to HTS without the super ultra AFA plastic shell, they're not gonna last long. Collectors for monetary value, it's still safe to feel special. http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i116/hellion42/smilies/roll.gif

[Hicks_Royel]

So... did anyone just buy the Gold PDD just to own him? You know, to complete a collection. That's all I ever wanted him for.

[Jism83]

why is this such a big deal? does it really matter if they made more? i hope they did, and i can get one for $9 or they flood the market so maybe i can find one on ebay for $50 or something.

Im tired of of seeing things that just came out for over $100 when they will always be MOC and never opened or played with. Thats what drives the OG prices up. When i was a kid and got the OG SW or Joe figures i ripped into them. So now its rare to find an 83 Snake Eyes MOC. But a figure thats been out for 2 months, that will never ever leave its packaging is $100 right off the bat? i can live with $30, maybe even $50 but over $100?

I think for these sdcc exclusives $30-$50 is fair. Both for the CC's & the PDD. You have to consider all the effort that went into getting them, whether it be actually going to the Comicon or staying up all night to catch them.

For the Gold PDD and the Blue CC those prices are way too unjust IMHO. For god sakes they just came out, and ebay and every single toy website is flooded with them for the most part.

The yellow Stalker i can semi understand price-wise. I mean people saw these and either passed on them, or opened them because they looked stupid. I never really see more than 1 on ebay at any given time.

This is just my opinion though. feel free to tear it apart if you must

[Shin-Gouki]

obviously, but the "lunch time special" that you are referring to, are they usually made in conjunction with shipping boxes and date stamped. if not, why would do so for these?

I have seen Takara shipping cases with these in them.

[ThreeHGame]

So... did anyone just buy the Gold PDD just to own him? You know, to complete a collection. That's all I ever wanted him for.

I used to want to complete a set, but decided so many repaints taking up space was a bit much so I passed on 3 Gold PDD at $75 each. I made my choice and stuck with it. Now my friend has one for his collection and a HUGE chunk of change to buy more stuff. Having one is more of a status thing anymore.

[DOC]

I got mine for Status.....LOL! No I wanted to complete the collection. After having Piper in my Hands, I sold him off for the Crazy ebay pricing. He was a Stupid Figure IMO and not worth the $150 I paid for him! Good thing I sold him for a little over $450.00 :) ..After that completing the collection was of little concern any more

[Hicks_Royel]

I used to want to complete a set, but decided so many repaints taking up space was a bit much so I passed on 3 Gold PDD at $75 each. I made my choice and stuck with it. Now my friend has one for his collection and a HUGE chunk of change to buy more stuff. Having one is more of a status thing anymore.

Yeah, but this is a cool repaint and a nod to a unique figure of the past.
Nuts to status.

I'm glad I never saw Rowdy Roddy Piper as a 25th figure just an outdated DTC leftover.

[SNAKE EYES]

Yeah, but this is a cool repaint and a nod to a unique figure of the past.
Nuts to status.

Very true


I'm glad I never saw Rowdy Roddy Piper as a 25th figure just an outdated DTC leftover.

Exactly, just leftover DTC no way is he 25th.

[ThreeHGame]

First off, Piper wasn't a 25th figure but I like him and wish I had one, as for PDD, it is great to hear people saying they want him for their collections. I have delt with to many people as of late that just want one to have one. I know of one that has had 4 owners, and is back with the guy that got him at Comic Con.

[Hellion42]

I'd rather have a silver one myself. :D

[Hicks_Royel]

See there's the real arguement, silver of gold... True the silver is more true to the Original Destro and his family mask.

But if you're gonna go pimp...

Related note: when I broke down and bought my gold PDD, the Silver one and a five pack Destro came free with BIN. All for 80 bucks... Yee-argh...

[ladyhump]

I got my PDD for the sake of completing the line.

[Hicks_Royel]

...Course, that's when I was still under the impression that the line would be 25 figures representing iconic characters from the past 25 years. I tried so hard to stay away from this line. Passed on the five packs for a month after first finding them at KMart.

Hasbro didn't even offer the first hit for free.

[Rukh]

Same boat here, but I held out a little bit longer than you.

Gave in and ordered a V1 Single pack Storm Shadow from ebay a few weeks ago thinking: "hey here's the one figure I never got to own as a kid, it'll be the only one". Few Vipers and BATs later (lucky finds at Walmart) and I'm actively checking boards for news of a Terror Drome or mention of Bullhorn or Alley Vipers coming out.

GG.

Still holding back from buying anything other than my absolute favorite figures from the past.

[Hicks_Royel]

I knew it was all over when I found wave 1 Storm Shadow, Snake-eyes and Cobra Commander at Wal-Mart and wondered which online store would have the others still in stock to buy.

Hey what's this this thread about again? Someones making Copper Destros?

[Zefram]

I started off with alien Snake-Eyes, CC w Mass Element, Duke, 2x Vipers (first time army building in my life!) Roadblock, and Tomax & Xamot comic pack.

Damn was I happy when I got home, I set them up on my coffee table, and the battle has only continued to escalate.

[Tuga Viper]

Well since the GPDD are losing their value i think i'm just gonna open mine and give it to my 2 year old to play with!!!


Em

[Hicks_Royel]

The dreaded Copper Destro... leave him in the rain for a couple decades and his head'll turn green. Reminds me of a joke I can't tell here.

[wheeljaxx]

Here it is:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/756/img0498datestamp2zc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

As a professional photographer, and avid user of photoshop for 11+ years, and knowing how light behaves on objects, THAT is a REAL image, or someone with an exact expertise in fraud. the light on the indentations is right, and ther eis no evidence of copy past work at all.

[Jism83]

i just got a BAT today and its stamped 81342

my silver PDD is stamped 71112

[Hicks_Royel]

This is turning into a terrible X-Files/CSI Hybrid.

[Bionic Commando]

Maybe a few more were produced to be given as gifts to certain Employees of Hasbro hence the seller's Hasbro employee connection???I know some toy companies due handouts like that within the company

[Mr. G]

Did hasbro respond to any of the emails you guys wrote?

[Shogi]

I'm definately willing to believe if these are real, then they were sold straight from China and never went through any US channels. I just opened a wave 9 case at TRU, the date code on a Snow Serpent from that case is 81562 and the date code on the case box is 81711 These numbers are 40-20 days before this PDD and these are brand new figures. I guess we'll see in about a month if there was a whole new release of the GPDD

[245am]

and just to chime in about the whole "lunch time special" thing... that term, and IMHO, the whole notion that factory employees are making figures on the slide, has been debunked as pure fan speculation
PSMR-It's not nostalgia, it's Roboplasti-holism. Or Roboplasti-tardation. Or maybe Roboplasti-bergers. (http://pleasesavemerobots.blogspot.com/2008/01/ive-had-lunchtime-of-my-life-or-words.html)
Toy Bender Blog Archive “Lunch Time Special” Optimus Prime Made Crystal Clear (http://www.toybender.com/lunch-time-special-optimus-prime-made-crystal-clear/)

I haven't been in a Chinese toy factory recently, but I find it really hard to imagine that employees would be able to produce figures on the slide. A) You can't sneeze in that country without being caught on tape, using private company materials IN HOUSE for personal use & profit seems unlikely B)There are so many materials/machines/personnel/locations that go into putting together a figure & package that the coordinated effort to pull that off would require more than just some employees in their spare time who C) probably have very little idea of the American retail market for collectible toys and D) are unlikely to risk loosing their job for something like this considering the labor market in China makes acquiring and holding a low-skill or even managerial factory job difficult.

/rant

[The Commander]

Did hasbro respond to any of the emails you guys wrote?

Been 24 hours and no reply on mine.

[ThreeHGame]

Been 24 hours and no reply on mine.

That is because they are trying to figure out which worker in the factory went into business for themselves.

It puts the lotion on the skin or else it gets the hose again, or in this case it's put the figure in the package or else you get the waterboard again.

[Hicks_Royel]

I wouldn't think it would be all that easy for some random worker to just start making these for himself.

I can certainly see the benefit of casting clear test shots. They're probably cheaper since there's no coloring, and it would allow to see if a molds taking the plastic correctly. But then, clear plastic tends to be more brittle too.

[Mr. G]

Hasbro responded to my letter...Ill post a copy shortly

Here it is:
Thank you for contacting Hasbro, Inc.

We are sorry to advise that the information you have requested is not readily available.

We are sharing your question with those internal parties who are more familiar with this piece of the business. We will respond to you, as soon as we receive any information.

We thank you, in advance, for your patience

[Hicks_Royel]

Which means they'll likely follow up by asking someone involved with the Joe line and follow up, or forget all about the situation.

[Ewokhunter92]

Which means they'll likely follow up by asking someone involved with the Joe line and follow up, or forget all about the situation.

No, they'll call Target's toy dept and ask them for their expertise in the Joe division.

[Mr. G]

lol...lets see if they respond

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Hasbro responded to my letter...Ill post a copy shortly

Here it is:
Thank you for contacting Hasbro, Inc.

We are sorry to advise that the information you have requested is not readily available.

We are sharing your question with those internal parties who are more familiar with this piece of the business. We will respond to you, as soon as we receive any information.

We thank you, in advance, for your patience

I got the same exact response from them. Did yours have a customer representatives name on it?

[Elite Force Cobra]

Just to add fuel to the fire of speculation, both PDDs have been listed on Hasbro.com/GIJOE for over a year now and never taken down, although this year's SDCC exclusives cannot be easily found (unless you search by product number).

what is the product number for the gold by the way?

[Elite Force Cobra]

speaking of the amount of SDCC PDD that are on ebay last week there was hardly gold's but there was alot of Piper's....i guess they all sold and theres only one left on there now.

[Elite Force Cobra]

did anyone get any second replies from hasbro on the matter yet?

[Rickd3508]

Well I got mine in today, and it had been crushed in shipping. Needless to say I was rather upset! But the guy is suppose to make it right and ship me another and file a claim with fed-ex! Lets hope it goes smoothly. Does anyone else have these shipping problems? It seems that I must give written instructions on the best way to ship these things in order not to have them murdered the shipper! I can't tell you how many times my stuff has come in damaged. It makes me sick, I have just about stopped buying anything thats not already graded!

Anyway, it looks as real as possible and the date code is 81921.

well on second look, I see that the warning on the top left looks like it was copy/pasted on? you can tell the black is different, like a box around the words warning and the choking hazard part. But not the Ages 5+ part? how does everyones else's look?

also you can feel an edge on the stripes behind the G.I.Joe logo, this may be normal? I dunno I have never looked at any of my others this closely?

Rick D.

[Mr. G]

Well I got mine in today, and it had been crushed in shipping. Needless to say I was rather upset! But the guy is suppose to make it right and ship me another and file a claim with fed-ex! Lets hope it goes smoothly. Does anyone else have these shipping problems? It seems that I must give written instructions on the best way to ship these things in order not to have them murdered the shipper! I can't tell you how many times my stuff has come in damaged. It makes me sick, I have just about stopped buying anything thats not already graded!

Anyway, it looks as real as possible and the date code is 81921.

well on second look, I see that the warning on the top left looks like it was copy/pasted on? you can tell the black is different, like a box around the words warning and the choking hazard part. But not the Ages 5+ part? how does everyones else's look?

also you can feel an edge on the stripes behind the G.I.Joe logo, this may be normal? I dunno I have never looked at any of my others this closely?

Rick D.

would you be able to post pics of what u r talking about?

[Rickd3508]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00148.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00146.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00147.jpg

Here are a few pics I took!

[Mr. G]

u know now that I think about it...a silver PDD with 81921 would be nice to see. it would make sense that if Hasbro remakes the gold they would also remake the silver

[Mr. G]

a rickd that black box does look weird.

[Zefram]

We have our plot for the next X-Files movie. :D

[ThreeHGame]

We have our plot for the next X-Files movie. :D

Mulder looks for the answer to the 2008 PDD, while Scully tries to figure out a grown man's obsession with toys?

Sounds like my saturday nights...

[BatmanForever]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00148.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00146.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00147.jpg

Here are a few pics I took!

Rick, show us the damage? didn't you say it was smashed?

[Toymandon]

Why gold and not silver?

Crazy guess/idea... But

Doesnt Vac-metalizing require a different process/machine than standard paint apps? And if so, they would have already had it set up to pump out the gold Destro heads for Wave 5 comic packs... So they used the oppertunity to make some extra heads for the gold PDDs... Or are the heads different and I am just crazy? :)

[Shogi]

I'm pretty sure all the Destro heads are exactly the same, just different paint

[SNAKE EYES]

Well I got mine in today, and it had been crushed in shipping.

Anyway, it looks as real as possible and the date code is 81921.

well on second look, I see that the warning on the top left looks like it was copy/pasted on? you can tell the black is different, like a box around the words warning and the choking hazard part. But not the Ages 5+ part? how does everyones else's look?

also you can feel an edge on the stripes behind the G.I.Joe logo, this may be normal? I dunno I have never looked at any of my others this closely?

Rick D.

The plot thickens as the mystery of the Gold PD Destro continues to mystify the Tank.

Where's Scooby and the gang when you need them :D

[MAJOR BLOOD]

The back of the Gold IG/Destro comic is 81471 and the back of Black head IG/Destro comic pack is 81661. Wouldn't that mean this Destro was after the comic packs?

[Shogi]

The back of the Gold IG/Destro comic is 81471 and the back of Black head IG/Destro comic pack is 81661. Wouldn't that mean this Destro was after the comic packs?

Yep, like I said, If this is legit and a few got out early from Chinese sellers then we should see the main shipment hit the US in about a month

[Code]

Lets get some more pics rick!

Can you show us the blue box with the gold destro?

Also I am curious to how smashed the box was!

Did the toy itself get damaged?

Got any pics to show the damage?

[Mr. G]

this is what Hasbro has to say about this whole ordeal:

"We apologize for the inconvenience, but the item you requested is not available at this time. We are unable to provide any additional stock availability information for this item.



Please check our Web site again in the near future for availability. "

Sounds to me like they are beating around the bush to me. What do you guys make of this?

[Butters_Stotch]

this is what Hasbro has to say about this whole ordeal:

"We apologize for the inconvenience, but the item you requested is not available at this time. We are unable to provide any additional stock availability information for this item.



Please check our Web site again in the near future for availability. "

Sounds to me like they are beating around the bush to me. What do you guys make of this?

Actually it sounds more like just a standard response. You won't really get anywhere unless you have an email for someone that works on the joe team.

[Mr. G]

Notice that they said "the item you requested is not available at this time" they could have easily said that it was discontinued. And why would they tell me to "check their website again in the near future for availability"?

[carnage717]

It is possible these new Gold PPD were made specifically for sale in the Asia markets. When the Nemesis Prime Convention figures were made they were also packaged and sold in stores all across the Asia Markets and Australia. They still had the same packaging as the convention exclusives as well as the Comic Con stickers on them. I got one from HTS and 1 from a seller over seas and there is no distinguishable difference between the 2 packages. So it is possible that these new PPD's will be released in Retail somewhere in Asia or Australia but not be made available in the U.S. Either way it will still drive down the prices of the current Gold PPD's. Just because they are discontinued in the United States, doesn't mean that they are discontinued in another country. Lego products are notorious for being discontinued in the U.S. but still continue to be sold in other countries long after the U.S. Discontinuation date.

[Jdizzle66]

It is possible these new Gold PPD were made specifically for sale in the Asia markets. When the Nemesis Prime Convention figures were made they were also packaged and sold in stores all across the Asia Markets and Australia. They still had the same packaging as the convention exclusives as well as the Comic Con stickers on them. I got one from HTS and 1 from a seller over seas and there is no distinguishable difference between the 2 packages. So it is possible that these new PPD's will be released in Retail somewhere in Asia or Australia but not be made available in the U.S. Either way it will still drive down the prices of the current Gold PPD's. Just because they are discontinued in the United States, doesn't mean that they are discontinued in another country. Lego products are notorious for being discontinued in the U.S. but still continue to be sold in other countries long after the U.S. Discontinuation date.


possible, i was in singapore last year and all the star wars 30th collection , episode 3, and 2006 saga collection exclusives were sold on the pegs.

[Unclassified]

the 8 is worn away on the pic that tells you someone messed wit it

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Response (Kerry Bronson)08/18/2008 09:27 AM Hi Anthony,

Thank you for your response.

Please be assured we have shared your questions with the appropriate department. We will respond to you, as soon as we receive any information.

We thank you, in advance, for your patience

That was the response that I got after sending my question to them again. Hopefully someone will give a real answer but at least it seems a representative actually answered. I will admit that the pictures look a little fishy. I also sent them a link to the post if they even check those type of things.

[gunslingercbr]

Notice that they said "the item you requested is not available at this time" they could have easily said that it was discontinued. And why would they tell me to "check their website again in the near future for availability"?

because it is a canned, standard response. don't read too much into it.

[mutt7000]

The re release for the asian market is a good theroy. I ordered a blue SDCC from a guy in singapore off ebay and when I got it it had a small sticker on the back of it, that apparently the ones picked up at SDCC and HTS dont have. I will get pics of it tonight to show.


here is what the sticker says. Anyone who got the "new" case 8 destros can say if it has the same one


Distributed By:
HASBRO TOY (MALAYSIA)
SDN. BHD. (182352-x)
No. 6F / 8 & 9, Pusat Perdagangan lOl
Bandar Puchong Jaya, 47100 Puchong,
Selangor Darul Ehsan

[gunslingercbr]

is there really a significant market for Joes in Asia? not to mention the fact that Canada gets generic International cardbacks but Asia wouldn't, they would get the same cardbacks as the US releases. you couldn't be more international than Asia. the Asia market theory seems like a stretch.

[ThreeHGame]

is there really a significant market for Joes in Asia? not to mention the fact that Canada gets generic International cardbacks but Asia wouldn't, they would get the same cardbacks as the US releases. you couldn't be more international than Asia. the Asia market theory seems like a stretch.

Not really, most toys for some reason have a shelf life in Asia. I have seen many Star Wars and Transformer toys coming for Asia and as said before many of the pricey exclusives end up being sold in stores. If Joe is a s big as you guys say it is then it is in stores in Asia.

[Jdizzle66]

is there really a significant market for Joes in Asia? not to mention the fact that Canada gets generic International cardbacks but Asia wouldn't, they would get the same cardbacks as the US releases. you couldn't be more international than Asia. the Asia market theory seems like a stretch.


its possible though, like i said i was in singapore last year, saw a lotf of starwarsshop.com and comicon exclusives star wars on the pegs out there.

You would be suprised on the amount of things they have on the pegs out there. Lots of stuff here people pay good moeny for just warms the shelves there.

[paulpratt]

Not really, most toys for some reason have a shelf life in Asia. I have seen many Star Wars and Transformer toys coming for Asia and as said before many of the pricey exclusives end up being sold in stores. If Joe is a s big as you guys say it is then it is in stores in Asia.

My mom was in a store in Asia because she was big... and other things i can't say in a public forum.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Response (Kerry Bronson)08/18/2008 02:56 PM Hi Anthony,

Thank you for your patience.

This figure was done as a one time only ComicCon exclusive and is not being remade. The original number in the upper corner should say 63466/63775 asst.

We want to assure you that we are dedicated to maintaining quality products and service. We hope you and your family will continue to enjoy our products for many years to come.

Again, thank you for contacting us.

This is a response I got from the same consumer affairs person. What number are they referring to? I asked them about the stamp near the file card. Is one a product code and the other a date stamp?

[carnage717]

Response (Kerry Bronson)08/18/2008 02:56 PM Hi Anthony,

Thank you for your patience.

This figure was done as a one time only ComicCon exclusive and is not being remade. The original number in the upper corner should say 63466/63775 asst.

We want to assure you that we are dedicated to maintaining quality products and service. We hope you and your family will continue to enjoy our products for many years to come.

Again, thank you for contacting us.

This is a response I got from the same consumer affairs person. What number are they referring to? I asked them about the stamp near the file card. Is one a product code and the other a date stamp?

Hes talking about the product code on UPC symbol not the Production Date Stamp.

[Ewokhunter92]

Hes talking about the product code on UPC symbol not the Production Date Stamp.

in other words, the official response is "we don't know shit"

[sgtapon]

in other words, the official response is "we don't know shit"


do they ever know anything?

[Mr. G]

I got the same email:

Thank you for your patience.

This figure was done as a one time only ComicCon exclusive and is not being remade. The original number in the upper corner should say 63466/63775 asst.

We want to assure you that we are dedicated to maintaining quality products and service. We hope you and your family will continue to enjoy our products for many years to come.

Again, thank you for contacting us.

I also asked about the date code stamp not the asst. number. These people are incredible, they must really think we are idiots.

[Hicks_Royel]

So, its known that the SDCC Alternator figures saw mass release outside of the US. I think there may be more to the idea that Carnage717 has thrown out there than we're willing to believe. Why they'd wait over a year to do this confuses me, but given Hasbro's track record, I suppose it shouldn't.

One thing is for certain, if new SDCC figures are being released, it shouldn't be long before they swarm ebay. However, since they will sport a new production stamp, it shouldn't upset the "precious" value of the original release figures. At least not in the eyes of those of you wanting a 400 dollar figure.

[darthdoug]

Not slow, just bored with the endless posts in this thread repeating the basic info on how the date-numbers work. I figure at some point a mod will lock it until new info comes out.

What's it matter to you if the thread is repeating? Maybe some of us are enjoying it. The way I see it there's no need for a moderator to LOCK it if people are participating in it. That's what this site is all about-fan participation. If you don't like the thread then choose another one. Let those of us who are enjoying it continue to take part in it.

Not trying to be crass but I'm tired of seeing people get onto threads and scream for the Moderators to lock them when there's nothing wrong with the conversation.

With that said... anyone want to explain how the date stamp works again? haha.

[Ewokhunter92]

With that said... anyone want to explain how the date stamp works again? haha.

I don't have a clue, but I know how a TRAMP stamp works ;)

Actually, the first number is the year it was made and the last 3 numbers I believe number of days in the year it was made. So something like 224 would be on the 224th day of the year.

[Mr. G]

does anyone here on hisstank know a Hasbro employee that can help with this situation?

[darthdoug]

The only Hasbro employee I know is the one that decides to add Cobra Commander, Duke, SE & Destro to every wave. He's the one that decided that Zartan needed to have the torso covered in his initial run rather than resemble the real Vintage Zartan. He mixed the yellow dye in the Stalker molds, Sand-papered the anchor off of Gung Ho's hat, designed Dude Arms, decided on Serpentor's 1st 2 versions, put SDCC Cobra Commander in a Dr. Henry Jones suit, put Destro in black-face and released Wraith ahead of Low-Light, Alpine, Tunnel Rat, Zarana and Dr. Mindbender.

oh... I know someone at HASBRO all right. And we don't need anymore of HIS HELP!!!

[shdwknt]

Not sure what is going on - but ebay as a few PDD Gold destro's out of hong kong.

Not to add fuel to the fire - but if they are releasing another batch for what ever reason - it would explain the hong kong ebay auctions!

[cmderinchief]

No, Hasbro is NOT making more, but there are some carded floating out there. Again, the run of SDCC Destros were 5000 - 1000 of which were gold. I know for a fact that you can find loose with its stand from overseas if you know the right people. Is it out of the question for someone to find a rogue case of carded out there, no I don't think so. Cool thread.

[carnage717]

No, Hasbro is NOT making more, but there are some carded floating out there. Again, the run of SDCC Destros were 5000 - 1000 of which were gold. I know for a fact that you can find loose with its stand from overseas if you know the right people. Is it out of the question for someone to find a rogue case of carded out there, no I don't think so. Cool thread.

Then how do you explain the '08 Production code. Someone, somewhere is making them whether its Hasbro or the factory they were originally produced at.

[Hicks_Royel]

An abomination created by Hasbro's secret inner sect to confuse and anger the masses with half truths and mysterious origins.

Its as if I truly can see into the future. For five bucks I'll read your palm.

[flashjack]

is there really a significant market for Joes in Asia? not to mention the fact that Canada gets generic International cardbacks but Asia wouldn't, they would get the same cardbacks as the US releases. you couldn't be more international than Asia. the Asia market theory seems like a stretch.

It's not a theory, its fact. SDCC exclusives are exclusives limited to that convention, but only within the US market. Note that Hasbro never said these were worldwide limited editions. Hasbro distributors here in Asia are able to order them like normal assortments if they want. All the other recent Hasbro SDCC 2008 exclusives were available at retail as well.

[Jdizzle66]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00148.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00146.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/rdunaway2749/DSC00147.jpg

Here are a few pics I took!

yeah that box does look weird. check t his pic out. Theres not blue outline or anything.

[Mr. G]

I just got off the phone with Hasbro's product resource dept. I asked them for the proper way to read the date code stamp "81921" They put me on hold for about 5 minutes, then they told me that number wasn't a date code stamp, that it was an "internal number" used by them and that I shouldn't worry about it. I was like "but on the factory boxes it clearly says date code" they once again told me that it wasn't a date code, that it was a "distribution" number. I don't know what to make of this. They sounded very annoyed with my inquiry. If any of you guys want to try your luck here is the number 1.800.327.8264

Make sure to ask about how to properly read the "date code stamp" on both the carded figures and the Hasbro factory boxes.

[gunslingercbr]

It's not a theory, its fact. SDCC exclusives are exclusives limited to that convention, but only within the US market. Note that Hasbro never said these were worldwide limited editions. Hasbro distributors here in Asia are able to order them like normal assortments if they want. All the other recent Hasbro SDCC 2008 exclusives were available at retail as well.

no, it's a fact (according to you, but I'll concede it) that convention exclusives are produced separately and sold overseas, but it is still a theory that these PDD's are a new run produced with the specific intent of selling them in Asia. big difference between the two.

[Ewokhunter92]

I just got off the phone with Hasbro's product resource dept. I asked them for the proper way to read the date code stamp "81921" They put me on hold for about 5 minutes, then they told me that number wasn't a date code stamp, that it was an "internal number" used by them and that I shouldn't worry about it. I was like "but on the factory boxes it clearly says date code" they once again told me that it wasn't a date code, that it was a "distribution" number. I don't know what to make of this. They sounded very annoyed with my inquiry. If any of you guys want to try your luck here is the number 1.800.327.8264

Make sure to ask about how to properly read the "date code stamp" on both the carded figures and the Hasbro factory boxes.

BAH, they are full of shit, it IS a date stamp and has been verified on Star Wars boards by Hasbro. It's also a way to tell people of recalls.

Man, You'd think we are trying to get info from Homeland security about people on the no fly list or something.

[Mr. G]

That's what I told the girl. I said "well if its not the date code was is it"? She again said it was an internal number. I then asked "can you tell me what the number means if not the date code"? "Is it a secret"? She was like its not a secret but its not the date code. That $hit got me so pissed, I just hung up. You guys should call and keep asking them about it, lets get them annoyed until they spit it out. 1.800.327.8264

[ThreeHGame]

Man, You'd think we are trying to get info from Homeland security about people on the no fly list or something.

For some reason Hasbro does not like G.I. Joe collectors. Proof is that they they tell you what the number is on a Star Wars board and mis-infor you on a call about Joe figures.

[darthdoug]

...HAHA... I hope to see 1000's of Gold PDD's peg warming real soon. That'll keep vendors from swiping all them up and charging out the butt on Ebay. I will laugh my ass off!!! Hasbro could seriously do this to kill the dealers and give it back to the fans who collect for themselves. I have a Silver PDD and would love to pay $7.99 at Target for a Gold PDD!

[Mr. G]

So did anyone call Hasbro asking about Gold PDDs with the date code 81921?

Hasbro Inc. 1.800.327.8264

[Mr. G]

It's not a theory, its fact. SDCC exclusives are exclusives limited to that convention, but only within the US market. Note that Hasbro never said these were worldwide limited editions. Hasbro distributors here in Asia are able to order them like normal assortments if they want. All the other recent Hasbro SDCC 2008 exclusives were available at retail as well.

Couple of questions:

Are you from Asia flashjack?

Does the Asian packaging differ in any way from the US?

Would both releases of the Gold PDD be considered equal in value?

Lets say the Asian release of the PDDs and the US release of the PDDs are exactly alike...which one would you guys prefer? Would it matter?

[Hicks_Royel]

Sheesh... at this point, I kinda hope they flood the market too.

[Irid70]

Sheesh... at this point, I kinda hope they flood the market too.

Ditto.

[Roadblock Recall]

the auctions that have been going on from Hong Kong...maybe we could contact the winners of those auctions and just ask them to check the date stamp once it arrives in the mail.

[Butters_Stotch]

Some 2006 Nemesis Prime SDCC Alts have recently shown up in some Asian Countries. So its 100% possible Hasbro over in the Pacific could be cranking out past exclusives.

[Mr. G]

From all the information I've gathered so far, those "81921" Gold PDDs look to be recent Asian releases. They are exactly the same, only difference being the date code.

[ThreeHGame]

Could it be these are just really good Asian market fakes, produced because they sell for so much? The odd date stamp could be because they knew there was a number there but didn't know what it was for, it could also explain why the cards look off a bit.

[Mr. G]

Could someone else please call Hasbro and see what responce they give you. That rude female dog knows my voice already.
1.800.327.8264

[Syn3sthesia]

Could it be these are just really good Asian market fakes, produced because they sell for so much? The odd date stamp could be because they knew there was a number there but didn't know what it was for, it could also explain why the cards look off a bit.

See that's exactly what I'm thinking but if you are gonna fake something go all the way. You could spent some time and find the info for the date stamp. To me the card looks just does not look legit.

[Mr. G]

What card are you guys talking about not looking legit?

[Zefram]

Lets say the Asian release of the PDDs and the US release of the PDDs are exactly alike...which one would you guys prefer? Would it matter?

None whatsoever. I just want a good, loose, properly equipped figure to look good on my shelf/coffee table. If the asian market is getting these on the sly then I'd consider it a golden opportunity to get a figure I want without having to sell an organ.

[Butters_Stotch]

I think i have two extra loose Gold Pdd in a box of stuff I got from HK awhile back.

[Roadblock Recall]

I think i have two extra loose Gold Pdd in a box of stuff I got from HK awhile back.

sell me one for $150

[Zefram]

sell me one for $150

Well, I just got outbid. >_>;

[Beach Hedd]

I just came across all 24 pages of this thread today. And I am going to offer my two cents.

I collect GI Joes as religiously as I collect Nike sneakers. And there is a swarm of fake Nikes on the market.

In the sneaker collecting world, much like the toy collecting world, there are the two types of shoes:

1. General Release
2. Exclusive

But it seems as though rare exclusive shoes pop up as unauthorized reproductions made in official factories with official materials, but not sanctioned by Nike. Sometimes bootleggers will make a shoe in a color never produced. These contraband items do not even pass thru quality control, so the final product may be of lesser quality than an authentic (a missing stitch here, wrong logo placement there, etc.) Bootleggers pay very little attention to detail because for the most part, the buyer doesn't care either, these buyers want the prestiege of rare item, but don't want to pay the premium.

Bootleggers and counterfitters have been doing this for years with regard to clothing , electronics, software, luxury watches, purses, sneakers. And it looks like they are invading the toy market because of the profitability. Sad times and buyer beware.

Bootlegging supports terrorism!

[Ewokhunter92]

Bootleggers and counterfitters have been doing this for years with regard to clothing , electronics, software, luxury watches, purses, sneakers. And it looks like they are invading the toy market because of the profitability. Sad times and buyer beware.


Yeah, it's called Wal-Mart

[Butters_Stotch]

150 Wow, thats much more than I'd expect I may have to go dig out that box. As I told one guy in a PM they were included in a deal I made with a Guy in HK for most of the Transformers PVC Figures.

[Hicks_Royel]

Bootleggers and counterfitters have been doing this for years with regard to clothing , electronics, software, luxury watches, purses, sneakers. And it looks like they are invading the toy market because of the profitability. Sad times and buyer beware.

Bootlegging supports terrorism!

Well, I agree bootlegging is crap, but this is nothing new in toys either. The good thing is, bootlegs are considerably cheaper quality in most cases. So you get what you pay for...
But at least they're making the effort to recreate the item people desire. Not just buy up the existing surplus and trickling it back out into the masses at considerably jacked up prices. Which I still believe is at the root of this thread... Greed.

[ThreeHGame]

Bootlegging supports terrorism!

So terrorism is now a kid in China making 25 cents an hour, putting together a 50 cent fake toy that another kid in another part of China made last year for 50 cents an hour, so some guy in Hong Kong can sell them and live in a nice big house knowing he is going to hell when he dies?

[Hellion42]

bootlegging supports communism!
ftfy

[Hicks_Royel]

So terrorism is now a kid in China making 25 cents an hour, putting together a 50 cent fake toy that another kid in another part of China made last year for 50 cents an hour, so some guy in Hong Kong can sell them and live in a nice big house knowing he is going to hell when he dies?

Mr. Merle Haggard.

Sing me a song...
Of Saaaaa-aaaaaaa-AAAAAAAAA-aaadness.
And sing it as
blue as I feel...

[Zefram]

I only frequent domestically owned bootlegging operations.

Support your local hustler! :)

[ThreeHGame]

Which I still believe is at the root of this thread... Greed.

Somebody just got offered $150 bucks for a figure, sight unseen and with no real info. It's not just greed for money, but to complete a collection.

[Jeffrozup]

I don't know how relevent this is to the topic but I saw some mentions earlier about a "black box/tape" on the PDD and I noticed the Wave 5 comic packs have the same thing in the corner. This hasn't been on any of the older 25th Anniversary toys so maybe the PDDs with the black "age warnings" are legit.

[Hicks_Royel]

You're saying that the safety warning is a sticker in the corner? Cause everything I've found within arms reach of me has the safety warning printed on the card.

[Beach Hedd]

Lesson time kiddos:

Bootlegging supports terrorism.

A congressional hearing on the links between terrorism, organized crime, and the bootlegging of copyrighted material allow profit from illegal merchandise and these rings are highly organized and can have international distribution networks. Organized crime often supports terrorism.

They use low-key businesses to fund higher-scale, more clandestine activities. Bootlegging a toy or DVD is an easy way for criminals to build their principal. With the profits from easily produced bootleg DVDs, he in turn now has money to buy drugs, weapons, spy secrets, etc.

Bootlegging is an easy enterprise to get into; the barriers of entry are very small, and the profits are very large - with markups of 500 to 900%.

[Shogi]

OK guys, rather than getting into the debate of bootlegs supporting terrorists and such. let's try to focus on the mystery of these new date code PDD's

[Jeffrozup]

You're saying that the safety warning is a sticker in the corner? Cause everything I've found within arms reach of me has the safety warning printed on the card.

I don't know if this is directed at me but the Wave 5 CP's (that I have in my possession) all have the safety warning as a darker black sticker in the corner instead of printed on the card.

I don't know if this was always the case since I only have Wave 5 CP's right now so anybody else can help verify this.