Was Wave 8 a Test from Hasbro??

[Batmandk02]

I have read on a few threads about Wave 8 being somewhat a wash. But was Hasbro right in making Wave 8?? Maybe they designed and put them out to see just how HOT the 25th line really was. I will admit... we really needed that Major Bludd, but another Commander with a Mass Device, a Baroness we may not have seen, a TF Flint, A PP Cobra Trooper, and a somewhat really BUFF Roadblock? Was it a test to see how fast they went off the shelves?? Well, I think they got their answer because I haven't seen any Wave 8 figures warming the shelves. So we must have all had that "GOTTA GET ALL THE JOES FEVER!" Figured I would start a thread and get some controversy stirred up. What do you think????????

[Bac]

I think wave 8 was a way to fill demand with existing tools to keep the breakneck pace of new waves intact. Otherwise Hasbro would have had to wait longer between waves for new tooling to be complete -- which appeared in wave 9.

It seems Hasbro has caught up with production somewhat and spread out new tooling so necessary repaints aren't bunched together in the same wave.

[maiden22_2000]

i know wave 8 was next to impossible to find in my neck of the woods (charleston, wv). i saw them for about a week in my local kmarts, i never saw them at my TRU or walmarts. i wasn't able to find a Major Blood or Parka Snake Eyes.....lame.

[young1nj]

I think wave 8 was a way to fill demand with existing tools to keep the breakneck pace of new waves intact. Otherwise Hasbro would have had to wait longer between waves for new tooling to be complete -- which appeared in wave 9.

It seems Hasbro has caught up with production somewhat and spread out new tooling so necessary repaints aren't bunched together in the same wave.

that sounds about right. Wave 8 did seem rushed out and not as much effort put into it by hasbro as previous waves

[slim19722]

It was more of a "filler" wave, something to keep a steady flow of product out. That's how the Saga Legends came about in the SW line. Let fans vote on what fig's they wanted re-released, until new figures come out. That's what Hall of Heroes line next year is gonna do, as the switch goes twords the Joe movie line.

[errantentertainment]

I think the whole concept of "waves" and shortpacked figures is a load of BS and we constantly fall for it. I mean really, it's pretty well know which toys will be popular, vipers, obvious favorites like snake eyes, baroness, and 'special' stuff like Tracker. They do it intentionally to create the whole black market of scalping and reselling (which I admit I'm fully a part of...just not the scalping). It's totally sucky IMO. I'd rather it be like it was 25 years ago when I actually could walk into a Wal-Mart and find any figure I wanted for $2.99.

While I love these figures and want to continue collecting them I cannot abide by the fact that Hasbro is intentionally creeping up the prices (even though they are all made from the same molds just in different configurations), short packing, and deliberatly late shipping to various regions of the U.S.

I find it hard to believe that they are really so inept so it can only be that they are laughing at us collectors all the way to the bank as they continue to raise prices and work their own way into the after market.

[Gung.Heaux]

i saw 3 RBs and 2 PPs and 1 CCw/crystals just saturday night.
but its only at that one WM.

[Agent-GHQ]

Hard to say the intent of Hasbro whether wave 8 was a test or not. As mentioned, this is like the only wave that I have not seen since it debut.

At the SDCC, one of the marketing rep has stated that they do lurk in here and other Joes site to see what fans think and want.

Keep in mind, since its original debut last year, Hasbro intended to celebrate its 25th year but was pretty much caught off guard to the demand and its popularity level.

The fact that it has reached up to wave 11 shows that Hasbro does listen and want their customers to be happy. This also came from one of Hasbro's sculptor too at the San Diego Comic Con.

My prediction, this 25th line continues to hold very strong in terms of demand and popularity. And there are still many many characters and vehicles to be made before Hasbro put an end to the 25th line.

[onefastbird95]

I originally purchased a case with each wave 8 figure in it. Then I went home and it sunk in more that I paid over $7 each for these figures and they don't even have the 25th logo on them anymore, and Not to mention they were most all repaints. So I returned the baroness, cobra comander, python trooper, and extra viper since I already had on on a 25th card. I came to the realization that with the price increases and Hasbro starting to pump out so many singles, comic packs, multi packs, small vehicles big vehicles, etc I can no longer be a "completest", as I was when there were only a handfull of 25th figures comming out every few months. I am perfectly fine with this and did the same thing with wave 9, only purchased the figures I couldn't do without.

[young1nj]

I originally purchased a case with each wave 8 figure in it. Then I went home and it sunk in more that I paid over $7 each for these figures and they don't even have the 25th logo on them anymore, and Not to mention they were most all repaints. So I returned the baroness, cobra comander, python trooper, and extra viper since I already had on on a 25th card. I came to the realization that with the price increases and Hasbro starting to pump out so many singles, comic packs, multi packs, small vehicles big vehicles, etc I can no longer be a "completest", as I was when there were only a handfull of 25th figures comming out every few months. I am perfectly fine with this and did the same thing with wave 9, only purchased the figures I couldn't do without.

I feel you. I wanted to take back the wave 8 figures but I lost my receipt. It's really hard for me to turn down joes I see that I don't have. I start thinking..yeah I can fit this in, then a week later im wondering why Im eating a double cheese burger rather than a full home cooked meal.

[bvance74]

Filler wave, or test wave. I wish Hasbro would go back to how they produced figures in the 80's. 1 wave a year with really cool vehicles to go with them, and enough supply to meat the demand, and then some.

[helldogg]

Ok before I strat this I just want to say I quit smoking so I'm a bit pissy, so take no offence to what I'm about to say.

Do you guys read what you type? I mean buying full cases and then being upset that you did?

Look, I'm sick of CC, SE, Duke and all of the re-issues of the same people. BUT I don't buy ones I already have and I certainly don't buy cases.

Why not just buy the ones you like and maybe stop trying to make an internet business out of it? Enjoy them for what they are a throwback to all of us old people recapturing days long gone.

The packaging not having the 25th logo, screw it they are really cool updates to some old toys.

The big complaint I have is the comic packs, I am nowhere near a completest, but I do hate when they pack a cool character with ANOTHER CC or Destro.

But I buy them and enjoy ripping them open customizing them and buying them. Wave 8 was pretty cool, TF Flint, way better baroness. At least there was improvement, please stop with the case buying. You know that for every case you buy Hasbro thinks "Great we can keep pushing the same characters".

IF we let the ones we don't want not sell maybe we'll get new ones.

Again sorry to step on toes but there is way too much, " I've shit in my mess kit now I have no where clean to eat". going on.

[THALASTDRAGON]

Filler wave, or test wave. I wish Hasbro would go back to how they produced figures in the 80's. 1 wave a year with really cool vehicles to go with them, and enough supply to meat the demand, and then some.

not gonna lie, i like that idea as well, cuz there were plenty of figures and vehicles within each wave to keep anyone satisfied for tha year...good times

[statesofeuphoria]

I like the idea as well, but here's the catch when- we were kids, most of us only got stuff on Christmas or birthdays leading to there was always something new to get, but now with most of us being adults with some form of disposable income (we are buying toys you know), that would probably put a kink big H's finances and have the line cancelled. If they make 1 wave of 20-25 new figs a year with about 15 vehicles many collectors would be caught up in a few months time, and with no media to support it, it would collect dust at retail until it was clearanced and the next wave hit. Face it, kids have short attention spans and if there is not a daily cartoon to remind them, they will lose interest and move on to something else.

[dawg99]

test or not just keep releasing more joes keep them coming

[jaxscorpio]

I like the idea as well, but here's the catch when- we were kids, most of us only got stuff on Christmas or birthdays leading to there was always something new to get, but now with most of us being adults with some form of disposable income (we are buying toys you know), that would probably put a kink big H's finances and have the line cancelled. If they make 1 wave of 20-25 new figs a year with about 15 vehicles many collectors would be caught up in a few months time, and with no media to support it, it would collect dust at retail until it was clearanced and the next wave hit. Face it, kids have short attention spans and if there is not a daily cartoon to remind them, they will lose interest and move on to something else.

So why not set it to six months between each wave? At least that would spread it out a bit and give everyone plenty of time to find/buy the figures they want. This whole, release a new wave every 5 or 6 weeks crap is for the birds. It's ridiculous that some areas of the country are just now seeing Wave 9 yet there's indication from places like BBTS that Hasbro is no longer shipping wave 9. I guess that means the places just now seeing it won't be seeing it for very long.

[hectorxd]

not gonna lie, i like that idea as well, cuz there were plenty of figures and vehicles within each wave to keep anyone satisfied for tha year...good times

Yeah, back when had to save up our nickels and dimes just to be able to get one figure. And we had to rely on birthdays and Christmas to get the stuff we wanted. And most of didnt get it all because of lack of money. Now we can spend more and we want more. If you only want to buy 10 to 15 figures this year than do that.

[Tomahawk]

interesting

[Roadblock Recall]

Is that really how things were done back then? All figures from that year were released all at the same time? Are you sure they didn't stagger all of those figures throughout the year...and pack revision cases like they are now? How else would certain figures be available through multiple years? Hell, the original StormShadow was available for at least 3 years. He MUST have been repacked in revision cases, right?

[Monkeywrench]

It was a pretty weak wave overall

[gunslingercbr]

I thought it was a great wave, but clearly a filler wave where Hasbro compiled an group of repaints while they produced new molds for future figures. but that hardly equates to a test. yes, Hasbro needed a wave of repaints to gather data on how popular the line is -- that's a ridiculous premise.

[Steel Brigade]

It was a filler wave, just like Star Wars has filler waves of repaints, gives Hasbro some time, & keeps popular characters on the shelves for a bit.

[DarthBrett]

Is that really how things were done back then? All figures from that year were released all at the same time? Are you sure they didn't stagger all of those figures throughout the year...and pack revision cases like they are now? How else would certain figures be available through multiple years? Hell, the original StormShadow was available for at least 3 years. He MUST have been repacked in revision cases, right?

Back then the new waves were all released at one time (the new waves always came out in May or June once a year and all at the same time). Most figures were made available in the next year's wave as well (some were made available for up to 2 years after they debuted). Vehicles weren't usually carried over to the next year, though (although the smaller ones did carry over for some years).

[DaViper]

Wave 8 was kind of let down to me, but at least we got Major Bludd who was promised to us like two waves back(and he still turned out bad IMO)

Here's for food for thought. Do you really want the line to be over before the movie or take a hiatus for a year?

I just don't expect hasbro to give us any more vintage characters then what we have seen so far. At least not til the movie line is over. they just want us to buy repaints and non-joe related characters just hold us over. I actually like the line to continue for awhile after the movie.

[RuckusJr]

I thought I heard someone from Hasbro say something like the 25th anniversary is over, but that doesn't mean we won't discontinue the classic line for collectors. I think it was a way for them to continue with "classic" figures after the 25th anniversary was over. A re-introduction of sorts.

[DarthBrett]

I am betting that we will continue to get the "classic" characters in vehicles, in the comic 2-packs and maybe some battle packs or even an exclusive or two along the way. As for the basic line, I think we might get one or two throughout the entire movie line and that's about it. I really think Hasbro is going to continue to give us vintage figure updates after the movie line ends. They have made too much money on this updated line to waste an opportunity to make even more money and not somehow keep it alive somehow in some shape or form.

[polyphenus]

I just want to know when Hasbro will start sending cases of Wave 8 back into stores...? It seems like Wave 7 is starting to filter back out along with Wave 9 but I still haven't seen anything beyond the initial push of Wave 8 back a couple of months ago...

[Monkeywrench]

I just want to know when Hasbro will start sending cases of Wave 8 back into stores...? It seems like Wave 7 is starting to filter back out along with Wave 9 but I still haven't seen anything beyond the initial push of Wave 8 back a couple of months ago...

I know this has been talked about alot already but it would be nice if they upped the case qty to 24 or 16 or even 12. This would allow more figures to be available. I really wish this would happen.

[Batmandk02]

Oh yes.. let's have 24 or 16 or even 12 BUZZERS, SERPENTORS, and DUKE!!

[Moonstreaker]

Oh yes.. let's have 24 or 16 or even 12 BUZZERS, SERPENTORS, and DUKE!!You completely missed the point.

[minstrelboy]

I think wave 8 was a way to fill demand with existing tools to keep the breakneck pace of new waves intact. Otherwise Hasbro would have had to wait longer between waves for new tooling to be complete -- which appeared in wave 9.

It seems Hasbro has caught up with production somewhat and spread out new tooling so necessary repaints aren't bunched together in the same wave.

Sounds about right.

[spacemonkeymafia]

A Test? I didnt even study......

[Batmandk02]

You completely missed the point.

I did not miss the point... but we already have a few of the mentioned warming the pegs, if you increased the numbers of figures per box, then you increase the number of UNWANTED figures on the shelf. 10,000 Vipers and nothing else!!

[hwheels2]

Glad i got the wave online.if it was a test run it seems my area was left out of it.

[Monkeywrench]

I did not miss the point... but we already have a few of the mentioned warming the pegs, if you increased the numbers of figures per box, then you increase the number of UNWANTED figures on the shelf. 10,000 Vipers and nothing else!!

unwanted to you. I read everyday on this forum of people complaining that they never even saw wave 6 and 8 or whatever. Imagine a 24 figure case with wave 10 that has 8 Bats and a Flint and Flash etc. If they were smart about it, it would really help with the demand.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Don't really want to start a new thread for this but . . . Why the hell is Wild Bill Sold out on SMJ.com when he is peg warming like you wouldn't believe all over the GD place?

[Monkeywrench]

Don't really want to start a new thread for this but . . . Why the hell is Wild Bill Sold out on SMJ.com when he is peg warming like you wouldn't believe all over the GD place?

I dunno. Of all the figures to fill up a case, why the hell did they choose Wild Bill?

[doomed huh]

yeah back in the day there was no waves it was just the new figures for that year and the 25-30 or however many all came out at once.

and there wasnt really any rare figures. the poster who said you could walk in a store and find any figure you wanted for 2.99 was pretty much right.

at least thats how i remember it as a kid

I dunno what hasbro is doing but they are certainly failing to meet demand for the new joes.

[245am]

well, I can't speak for Hasbro's intent, but it was a test for me, and I failed... I went into wave 8 thinking "cool. filler wave. that SE is stupid. I don't need another Flint. I get to save money this wave." So why was I walking out of the store with one each? damn.

[kndy]

I have read on a few threads about Wave 8 being somewhat a wash. But was Hasbro right in making Wave 8?? Maybe they designed and put them out to see just how HOT the 25th line really was.

Similar to others, I myself have never even found this wave (except Cobra Commander with the cannister) and usually I find everything.

I was hoping to see WM or Target and even K-Mart eventually get them in but from what I seen, it's more of "more wave 7" and "more wave 9".

[fred V]

roadblock is a huge(no pun intended)peg warmer....