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sharke
08-09-2008, 01:24 PM
IT IS AWESOME! they weren't lying when said it feels more like the original trilogy then the prequels. go see it when it comes out. that is all.

TheLongestDay
08-09-2008, 01:33 PM
...cant f'n wait!!!!!!!

Crimson Rage
08-09-2008, 01:40 PM
Not a Star Wars fan (beyond "A New Hope" - That's the only film I have on my DVD shelf) so I don't think I'll bother.

Eopie Herder
08-09-2008, 04:32 PM
IT IS AWESOME! they weren't lying when said it feels more like the original trilogy then the prequels. go see it when it comes out. that is all.

Where did you get to see it? I saw the four minute clip that was on Yahoo, and it really didn't do anything for me, but I'm hoping that it turns out okay.

Shogi
08-09-2008, 04:55 PM
Where did you get to see it? I saw the four minute clip that was on Yahoo, and it really didn't do anything for me, but I'm hoping that it turns out okay.

Yeah, what he said (Except for the part about seeing a 4 min clip, I'll do that now :) )

Lo-Wan Bing
08-09-2008, 05:05 PM
My son was never really crazy about star wars (probably cause his dad watches it all the time) until he started seeing previews of The Clone Wars. It's the biggest event movie of the summer for him now. Glad to hear it's good! (But I'd be seeing it regardless) :)

MTN
08-09-2008, 07:44 PM
I'll be there 12 midnight. And yeah where did you see it?

crazyfellow1
08-09-2008, 08:04 PM
the original three were great especially "a new hope", the prequels were just plain horrible, and now it's getting painful how they are milking the franchise, I mean I'll see it and everything but from what they have done to the franchise in the past ten years is... painful. just my opinion

sharke
08-09-2008, 09:55 PM
Where did you get to see it?

sneak preview held by sister radio stations

slim19722
08-09-2008, 11:20 PM
I like all 6 films, watch'em every chance I get. Like the CW cartoons and now I can't wait for the nwe CW movie, will be there next Friday.

sgt.bludhound
08-12-2008, 01:13 AM
so I'm wonderin if the Cartoon Network Clone Wars and the Clone Wars Movie is the same story line and/or Timeline?

sharke
08-12-2008, 07:40 AM
here's a quote from Dave Filoni that kinda answers question


"The way George explained it to me going in was that THE CLONE WARS micro-series was really an experiment to see what kind of audience there was for Star Wars in an animated form. There have been droids and Ewoks, but that was a long time ago. So he brought out THE CLONE WARS micro-series, and it was super action-packed and exciting and really short installments. And it proved that people wanted to see STAR WARS in a lot of different mediums. So when we into doing this, I think that, now that George is done with the prequels, he wanted to reestablish the rules a little bit more, like "Mace Windu can't take out hundreds of battle droids by himself, otherwise the arena on Geonosis would've been a wipeout; [The jedi] would've won, and there be no Clone Wars. Those are exciting installments, but we don't tie directly into them; we tie more directly into the film that preceded us, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and the one that comes after us, REVENGE OF THE SITH. We take cues from [Tartakovsky's series]. I definitely pay a big homage to them in some of the design look of it. Anakin wears an outfit that was definitely inspired by what we saw in the other CLONE WARS. But there's no direct link-up."

mckeesportpaguy
08-12-2008, 08:06 AM
I'm so burned out on the Clone wars garbage already. The prequels were kinda crappy, the Cartoon network episodes sucked,and I'm not a big fan of the animation style they chose for the movie, I'm debatable if I'll even see it. They should have made a cartoon AFTER ROTJ, would bring in alot more ppl IMO.

Are any actors returning to lend thier voices?

sharke
08-12-2008, 08:10 AM
Sam Jackson....rest i don't really care about

Eopie Herder
08-12-2008, 10:08 AM
didn't Christopher Lee do Dooku's voice? sounds that way in the trailer.

sharke
08-12-2008, 11:10 AM
apparently so! Anthony Daniels as well but that probably goes without saying

sgt.bludhound
08-12-2008, 06:08 PM
here's a quote from Dave Filoni that kinda answers question


"The way George explained it to me going in was that THE CLONE WARS micro-series was really an experiment to see what kind of audience there was for Star Wars in an animated form. There have been droids and Ewoks, but that was a long time ago. So he brought out THE CLONE WARS micro-series, and it was super action-packed and exciting and really short installments. And it proved that people wanted to see STAR WARS in a lot of different mediums. So when we into doing this, I think that, now that George is done with the prequels, he wanted to reestablish the rules a little bit more, like "Mace Windu can't take out hundreds of battle droids by himself, otherwise the arena on Geonosis would've been a wipeout; [The jedi] would've won, and there be no Clone Wars. Those are exciting installments, but we don't tie directly into them; we tie more directly into the film that preceded us, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and the one that comes after us, REVENGE OF THE SITH. We take cues from [Tartakovsky's series]. I definitely pay a big homage to them in some of the design look of it. Anakin wears an outfit that was definitely inspired by what we saw in the other CLONE WARS. But there's no direct link-up."

ok that makes sense now. I might have to check it out!

MTN
08-15-2008, 03:16 AM
Just came back from it. It was good I really liked it. I'm probably going back to see it again well, later today.

Reznor
08-15-2008, 05:04 AM
I also just got back from it. I can't say I dug it too much. Just seemed out of place (majorly with Anakins personallity imo), and Ziro the Hutt....uh...sounded like a gay Droopy... Im sure a lot of people will like it, especially kids, but thats the problem for me, it was way too kiddy.

Reznor
08-15-2008, 05:05 AM
And I do realize that Star Wars was very kid friendly, but this, to me, was kid friendly in a "Star Wars Christmas Special" kinda way.

shockblast
08-15-2008, 05:18 AM
Wow I can't beleive anyone thought this was good Zero the Hutt was the most laughable character I've ever seen

Reznor
08-15-2008, 05:35 AM
Wow I can't beleive anyone thought this was good Zero the Hutt was the most laughable character I've ever seen

Yeah, the movie (pilot, whatever you wanna call it) didnt do too much for me.

shockblast
08-15-2008, 06:51 AM
And I do realize that Star Wars was very kid friendly, but this, to me, was kid friendly in a "Star Wars Christmas Special" kinda way.

I must have put this review in the wrong category or something, no ofence to those who loved this movie. But for the rest of us who were just floored at how awfully great this film was, here is my review. Please be honest with your opinions of it. I really want to know if people still blindly follow the lucasfilm machine. here it goes.
OK without telling you anything. Nap during the 1st 40 minutes of the movie. Then go to the bathroom and take healthy 10-15 minute dump. Then you will walk into the theater and laugh so hard that you will be glad you took that poop. If lucas is embarrassed about the 78 special, this film will be considered his comic revival. Itchy Lumby and Maula were serious characters compared to the new members of the star wars universe. I didn't stay for the closing credits but I suspect there had to be a dedication to Harvey Corman. Bea Arthurs super sexy dance moves can now be considered serious Star Wars lore after this film. Thanks George that was worth every penny. This is the funniest film I've seen in years.

PS, If you didn't find this funny stop taking your values and cues in life from a movie. Another words if you are offended grow up

shockblast
08-15-2008, 06:54 AM
Also thats for the over 30 crowd. If you think episode 1 is the beginning, well its ok you grew up with a different thing and MESA WRONG ANI!!!!!!!!

Reznor
08-15-2008, 07:06 AM
OK without telling you anything. Nap during the 1st 40 minutes of the movie. Then go to the bathroom and take healthy 10-15 minute dump. Then you will walk into the theater and laugh so hard that you will be glad you took that poop. If lucas is embarrassed about the 78 special, this film will be considered his comic revival. Itchy Lumby and Maula were serious characters compared to the new members of the star wars universe. I didn't stay for the closing credits but I suspect there had to be a dedication to Harvey Corman. Bea Arthurs super sexy dance moves can now be considered serious Star Wars lore after this film. Thanks George that was worth every penny. This is the funniest film I've seen in years.

PS, If you didn't find this funny stop taking your values and cues in life from a movie. Another words if you are offended grow up



hahaha, that cracked me up. Seriously though, I won't bad mouth anyone who liked this, but as an oldschool Star Wars fan myself, this was just not very enjoyable. Im not a huge fan of the prequels, but I will agree that they do have their high points, but the original trilogy still holds the belts for me.

Some light spoilers below---

But this just felt like a step backwards, like it wasn't even part of the star wars series. While some of the gun fights were fun to watch, the kung fu moves the clone troopers threw was kinda disjointed, and they really made the droids out to be a bunch of Abbot and Costellos. Seriously, the jedi are having trouble in a war against these guys? Jabba's son, uh....ok. The cutesy nicknames were a bit over the top for me too...SkyGuy?...Stinky the hutt??...

And don't get me started on Ziro the Hutt. Gay Droopy, that is all I can say.

The animation was okay, I know this was made to be a tv show, but the lightsaber battles were too jerky and sporadic, I couldn't really tell what was goin on when they were going at it.

The first thing that felt wierd about the movie, was the WB logo at the beginning. It's wierd, but it's like not seeing the Fox trumpets logo took me out of the 'star wars' mood. Then there was NO CRAWL!!! A star wars related feature in the theater, with no crawl?! Again, it just took me out of the star wars atmosphere.

It felt like a fan-made cartoon made by non-fans. Maybe it will be better when the series comes out.

swafus
08-15-2008, 07:13 AM
I am an old school Star Wars fan and I absolutely hated, hated, hated, this film!! There was nothing about it that felt like SW to me. I'm sure 8 yr. olds will love it. That is all.

shockblast
08-15-2008, 07:46 AM
I was actually suprised that most of theater was laughing. People in Western PA are really dumb. Sorry it's true. We had press passes last week and overslept. So we decided like always we would go with true fans at the midnight.WE ARE OLD.BUT LOVE OUR 80's LORE We almost forgot to get tickets because we bought a small house and have been consumed by that for weeks. We are really proud of it. Also we are lucky and blessed to have that. However it was !!:30 and my wife reminded me its time for the big movie. I actually wanted to go but didnt think we could get tickets. Prices were reduced and everyone laughed. But georgey is a great writer because ziro is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shockblast
08-15-2008, 07:49 AM
I am an old school Star Wars fan and I absolutely hated, hated, hated, this film!! There was nothing about it that felt like SW to me. I'm sure 8 yr. olds will love it. That is all.
My 8 month old nephew wont love it. We aren't trying to teach him Georges lifestyle. We love him no mater what, but he seems to like girls.

sharke
08-15-2008, 10:36 AM
eh, I wanted Clones blowing shit up and I got Clones blowing shit up. therefor I was fully entertained.

gunslingercbr
08-15-2008, 01:25 PM
IT IS AWESOME! they weren't lying when said it feels more like the original trilogy then the prequels. go see it when it comes out. that is all.

I haven't seen it, and won't, but I've read enough about it to know the tone and execution of the film, and clearly fart jokes and teenie speak are not reminiscent of the original trilogy.

what's shocking is that there are still people interested in this awful franchise and thought it would be good.

MTN
08-15-2008, 05:06 PM
eh, I wanted Clones blowing shit up and I got Clones blowing shit up. therefor I was fully entertained.

I agree. I think the movie is watch able due to that fact. I had to go back and see it again though, cause I went to the midnight show so I had to get the hype all worn off before I can give my take on it. Although the plot line was poor. I still really liked it for the clone combat, cause that's the only thing I want to see during a movie titled clone wars. I'm a huge star wars fan but this movie didn't quite feel like a theater film. I think it would cause less damage as a strait to DVD release. For those of you who haven't seen it, It's creative and there's plenty of clone related action. If your a huge star wars fan like me I'd say it's worth watching, and there's no way at all it's as bad the christmas special. It had it's points where I felt uncomfortable with what I saw. Example zero the hutt. My biggest beef was possibly seeing the very flamboyant hutt speaking english. I never want to see a hutt speak galactic basic ever again! Extremely when it has that much screen time. I was pleased with the battles, but not so much on the major plot line. The goofy childish jokes (battle droids and stuff) didn't bother me as much as the Hutt plot line. It wasn't amazing but it wasn't terrible either. it was blatantly a children's movie that is still enjoyable to some adults. I will probably see it a third and fourth time before it comes out onto DVD cause I love star wars. To me it almost felt like a video game, and not just because of the style or CG. I'd suggest that fans should definitely see it due to the fact it is a star wars movie. The original trilogy can't be beat by anything they can dish out now. Although with all the negatives the movie is still on the up side for me. I can't wait for the show to be released. Still great Star wars action.

Any one else notice the nunas on tatooine were just like the CG gophers in Indiana Jones. StarWars.com | nuna (http://www.starwars.com/databank/creature/nuna/index.html)

slim19722
08-15-2008, 05:18 PM
I just saw it and I liked it. Yeah it is for the kids and those in the theatre enjoyed it, as some adults I overheard who weren't SW fans, but enjoyed the film. Rex was a pretty tough dude and I can't wait till the tv sereies starts so I can see some of my favorites in action, like Mace Windu, PLo Koon, Kit Fisto..

MTN
08-15-2008, 05:31 PM
I have to agree rex was awesome. The clone characters were really cool. There are going to be plenty of mixed reviews about this film. I thought It was good. It's watch able and I really liked it. Another main thing I found unsettling was the change in the opening title. The song was changed and they had a voice over as opposed to reading the text. It's like the they think that kids of today aren't capable of reading. I just wish it took a little bit more from the traditional star wars films. I have to say the seen with the at-te's walking up the mountain was visually amazing. that seen was some of the best star wars action I've seen in a while. It's that kind of thing that people expect from a clone wars movie, and not ziro the hutt. the film could actually go completely without those scenes and it wouldn't alter the main plot line at all. I hope the show will help me recover from the mixed opinions I have on this.

Any one else notice the nunas on tatooine were just like the CG gophers in Indiana Jones.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/creature/nuna/index.html

spacemonkeymafia
08-15-2008, 05:47 PM
Just saw it and its a good movie........cant wait for the show to start......

Lo-Wan Bing
08-15-2008, 05:51 PM
very cool Star Wars flick

NateR
08-15-2008, 10:27 PM
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm going in with the expectation of seeing a 90-minute toy commercial (y'know just like the old GI Joe cartoon). So I don't think I can be that disappointed.

Also I'm really only interested in seeing some good battle sequences and, from what I've been reading, this is a good movie for that.

sharke
08-15-2008, 10:41 PM
I haven't seen it, and won't, but I've read enough about it to know the tone and execution of the film, and clearly fart jokes and teenie speak are not reminiscent of the original trilogy.

what's shocking is that there are still people interested in this awful franchise and thought it would be good.

I wish I had the foresight to know everything about a movie I haven't seen like so many people here do.

NateR
08-16-2008, 02:18 AM
I saw it this evening and I really enjoyed it. Keeping in mind that this is really just a pilot episode for a children's TV show, then it actually exceeded all of my expectations.

I liked this much better than Episodes 1-3 and those AT-TEs are awesome!

Barefoot Jedi
08-16-2008, 03:00 AM
I'm a Star Wars fanboy and I thought it was good enough, a C. I liked "Hellboy 2" and "The Dark Knight" more and I'm not really strong fans of either of those franchises.

It was better than I expected it to be. I was entertained. The characters, plot and script are very thin, though. Don't expect a lot of deep material here. I saw it surrounded by nine-year olds and they LOVED it-cheered and laughed and seemed genuinely excited by it. Ah, the low expectations of the young...

The voice actor who did Anakin did a good impression of Hayden Christensen's non-acting in the prequels. That was funny. A friend told me Zero the Hutt's voice was based on Truman Capote...at the suggestion of George Lucas who obviously is suffering from acute mental illness. Sigh.

General Grievous wasn't in it at all. I was a little surprised as they made an animated-style action figure of him and the TRU exclusive was a hologram version of the same toy. The character was mentioned but never shown.

The Battle Droids ham it up, too. If you are not a fan of the RogerRogers you won't like this at all.

sgt.bludhound
08-16-2008, 04:07 PM
I wish I had the foresight to know everything about a movie I haven't seen like so many people here do.

yea same here! apparantly people know the future of the gi joe movie which comes out in 2009!

Tanksmasher
08-16-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm still gonna go see it because I thought the trailer looked cool, though all the bad reviews I'm seeing are disheartening. I was really hoping this film might redeem the prequels which I didn't like very much. Sounds like this Capote the Hutt is Jar Jar reincarnated. On a side note, I hope that the GI Joe resolute cartoon, the preview of which was awesome, doesn't follow the same suit. It really rubs my sack raw when something gets you excited and has you standing on tiptoes only to leave you icing your junk with a pack of frozen peas.

NateR
08-16-2008, 07:19 PM
I'm still gonna go see it because I thought the trailer looked cool, though all the bad reviews I'm seeing are disheartening. I was really hoping this film might redeem the prequels which I didn't like very much. Sounds like this Capote the Hutt is Jar Jar reincarnated. On a side note, I hope that the GI Joe resolute cartoon, the preview of which was awesome, doesn't follow the same suit. It really rubs my sack raw when something gets you excited and has you standing on tiptoes only to leave you icing your junk with a pack of frozen peas.

If you like the old Sunbow GI Joe cartoon, then you'll like this.

The criticisms of Ziro the Hutt are wildly exaggerated. He wasn't as bad as everyone is making him out to be. I can think of several characters from the GI Joe cartoon that were much more annoying (the Gamemaster immediately comes to mind).

Personally, this does redeem the prequels quite a bit in my eyes and it definitely redeems the character of Anakin Skywalker. He's not the annoying, whiny teenager nor the brooding "tortured soul" from Episodes 2 and 3. He's actually a strong heroic character and what I always imagined Anakin to be like when I first saw ROTJ in the 80s.

Just keep in mind that this is a pilot for a children's television program and don't actively look for stuff to hate. You might find that you actually enjoy it. :)

MTN
08-16-2008, 08:38 PM
I'm still gonna go see it because I thought the trailer looked cool, though all the bad reviews I'm seeing are disheartening. I was really hoping this film might redeem the prequels which I didn't like very much. Sounds like this Capote the Hutt is Jar Jar reincarnated. On a side note, I hope that the GI Joe resolute cartoon, the preview of which was awesome, doesn't follow the same suit. It really rubs my sack raw when something gets you excited and has you standing on tiptoes only to leave you icing your junk with a pack of frozen peas.

You should still see it. It is star wars making it worth watching. Just be aware it has it's corn ball moments, cause it's not a movie designed for adults it's for kids. But The action is incredible. I'll probably see it a third time at some point next week.

sharke
08-17-2008, 11:41 AM
yea same here! Apparantly people know the future of the gi joe movie which comes out in 2009!

bingo!

Barefoot Jedi
08-18-2008, 02:17 PM
Whoah, 15 million and opened at #3.

Even Star Wars sites are calling it a disappointment if not a miserable failure. I wonder how much it cost to produce. Well, so much for the notion of Star Wars selling itself. And I wonder how this bodes for the animated Clone Wars TV series.

Yahhh yahhh yuuuuuuuck.

jaxscorpio
08-18-2008, 02:30 PM
Whoah, 15 million and opened at #3.

Even Star Wars sites are calling it a disappointment if not a miserable failure. I wonder how much it cost to produce. Well, so much for the notion of Star Wars selling itself. And I wonder how this bodes for the animated Clone Wars TV series.

Yahhh yahhh yuuuuuuuck.

How can it be a disappointment? It was a cartoon movie designed for children. It wasn't meant to be an adult oriented star wars flick. I saw it yesterday and, while I enjoyed it, I could tell that the little kids in the theater enjoyed it A LOT more. Its success or failure should really be measured by the reaction from the target audience instead of the reactions of a bunch of 30 something star wars fans who judge everything star wars by what was produced and released in theaters 25 years ago.

fred V
08-18-2008, 02:34 PM
it was the biggest waste of time and money,george lucas has jumped the shark hard with this garbage...stop while you can lucas,before you ruin a good thing,and to believe people actually clapped after...????wtf man...this film really pissed me off...

Lo-Wan Bing
08-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Whoah, 15 million and opened at #3.

Even Star Wars sites are calling it a disappointment if not a miserable failure. I wonder how much it cost to produce. Well, so much for the notion of Star Wars selling itself. And I wonder how this bodes for the animated Clone Wars TV series.

Yahhh yahhh yuuuuuuuck.

The studio said that it did about what they expected. It's just the first 4 episodes of a TV show put on the big screen for fans to enjoy and get a little preview before the show comes out. I'm glad they did it at all, it was fun to see on the big screen. If they put Resolute on the big screen for the fans to see in full prior to going w/the mini-sodes do you think it would come in #1. Not a chance, but it would be awesome for the fans. That's what CW is.

fred V
08-18-2008, 02:37 PM
its like getting spit in the face....

RolandofGilead
08-18-2008, 02:56 PM
That's ridiculous.

I didn't go to see it this weekend simply because my daughter was misbehaving Friday night. She knows if she's good, then I'll take her. :D

As for expectations, this was put in theaters as a lark. It's a 90 minute commerical for the new series and the fact that it made any money is amazing. I read that it cost $10 million to make so they've made a profit there. Not to mention that toy sales are through the roof and that's what this was all about in the first place. All these claims that this is proof Lucas/Star Wars is at an end are just stupid. Have some perspective.

slim19722
08-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Plus the fact it was a last minute decision to release it in theatres. It was supposed to have been on tv only. That's why there wasn't the usal promtions with Taco Bell, KFC, and Pepsi like the the other movies had. Like with the movie, McDonalds got on board at the last minute. Like I said, I liked it and can't wait till the series starts.

fred V
08-18-2008, 04:04 PM
That's ridiculous.

I didn't go to see it this weekend simply because my daughter was misbehaving Friday night. She knows if she's good, then I'll take her. :D

As for expectations, this was put in theaters as a lark. It's a 90 minute commerical for the new series and the fact that it made any money is amazing. I read that it cost $10 million to make so they've made a profit there. Not to mention that toy sales are through the roof and that's what this was all about in the first place. All these claims that this is proof Lucas/Star Wars is at an end are just stupid. Have some perspective.
lucas jumped the shark man...PERIOD....

fred V
08-18-2008, 04:07 PM
you need to end stuff sooner or later,nothing lasts forever,i think lucas needs to realize that,quick,he is turning star wars into a joke....

fred V
08-18-2008, 04:13 PM
Whoah, 15 million and opened at #3.

Even Star Wars sites are calling it a disappointment if not a miserable failure. I wonder how much it cost to produce. Well, so much for the notion of Star Wars selling itself. And I wonder how this bodes for the animated Clone Wars TV series.

Yahhh yahhh yuuuuuuuck.

i agree 100%...

jaxscorpio
08-18-2008, 04:30 PM
you need to end stuff sooner or later,nothing lasts forever,i think lucas needs to realize that,quick,he is turning star wars into a joke....

Tell you what, come back and talk to us when you've created an international franchise that grosses billions of dollars annually. At this point I'd say Lucas can do whatever he wants, it's his franchise. I also applaud him for focusing some energy on a movie and series designed to make young kids smile as opposed to pouring millions into yet another flick that makes 30 somethings all giddy with excitement. Say what you will but when I see my little nephews leave the theater talking all about star wars and begging us to go buy some new SW toys to play with in the backyard, I can't help but think Lucas has done a good thing.

gunslingercbr
08-18-2008, 04:31 PM
The studio said that it did about what they expected. It's just the first 4 episodes of a TV show put on the big screen for fans to enjoy and get a little preview before the show comes out. I'm glad they did it at all, it was fun to see on the big screen. If they put Resolute on the big screen for the fans to see in full prior to going w/the mini-sodes do you think it would come in #1. Not a chance, but it would be awesome for the fans. That's what CW is.

studios will always put the brightest face on it. fact is, the Star Wars movies made tons of money because they didn't appeal strictly to the Star Wars dedicated crowd. this movie did not because it only appealed to the SW's crowd. the rest of the movie going audience's interest was in the story set forth in the movies. with that completed, Star Wars is probably relegated to the SW crowd, and if the box office draw of this movie is any indication, that isn't much.

the dismal box office means something about the public's interest in Star Wars, saying otherwise is dishonest. what that means is open to interpretation. but the Star Wars crowd knew it existed, and knew it was in theatres, so either they didn't see it, which reveals a lack of interest in it, or the Star Wars crowd isn't as large as everyone thinks and didn't fuel the overall success of the live-action movies. neither of which bode well for the continued interest in Star Wars IMO from the general public.

fred V
08-18-2008, 04:34 PM
Tell you what, come back and talk to us when you've created an international franchise that grosses billions of dollars annually. At this point I'd say Lucas can do whatever he wants, it's his franchise. I also applaud him for focusing some energy on a movie and series designed to make young kids smile as opposed to pouring millions into yet another flick that makes 30 somethings all giddy with excitement. Say what you will but when I see my little nephews leave the theater talking all about star wars and begging us to go buy some new SW toys to play with in the backyard, I can't help but think Lucas has done a good thing.
look bro,i love star wars as much as anyone,but this was a dissapointment to me,if you liked it great,i just think you should live and let die...(at some point)...

gunslingercbr
08-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Tell you what, come back and talk to us when you've created an international franchise that grosses billions of dollars annually. At this point I'd say Lucas can do whatever he wants, it's his franchise. I also applaud him for focusing some energy on a movie and series designed to make young kids smile as opposed to pouring millions into yet another flick that makes 30 somethings all giddy with excitement. Say what you will but when I see my little nephews leave the theater talking all about star wars and begging us to go buy some new SW toys to play with in the backyard, I can't help but think Lucas has done a good thing.

didn't little kids leave those films you claim are for 30 year old's with the same fervor for toys and excitement for the story? yes they did. you and I did as children with the OT (I'm assuming), and children did with the prequels. it isn't as if children today would only be interested in it in animated form, so your argument doesn't have any merit.

and Marketing 101, the brand belongs to the customers. ask Coke. and perhaps Lucas. the egomaniac has believed audiences would eat up Star Wars no matter where he took it. I guess this movie proves he's wrong.

Lo-Wan Bing
08-18-2008, 07:19 PM
since when is something that "makes" money on it's opening weekend a failure? I don't get that line of thinking, really. And #3, for a show that wasn't even intended to be released as a movie when it was initially created??? Pretty dang good bank. Like I said, which I think some people like to not consider, this was something that was even put out as a movie for the fans, that's it. Almost zero marketing went into this, it was practically an afterthought to release it this way and it STILL MAKES MONEY! some folks just hate Lucas regardless of what he does because he made a series and told a story he wanted to tell regardless of what ANYONE else thought it should be.

NateR
08-18-2008, 07:26 PM
studios will always put the brightest face on it. fact is, the Star Wars movies made tons of money because they didn't appeal strictly to the Star Wars dedicated crowd. this movie did not because it only appealed to the SW's crowd. the rest of the movie going audience's interest was in the story set forth in the movies. with that completed, Star Wars is probably relegated to the SW crowd, and if the box office draw of this movie is any indication, that isn't much.

the dismal box office means something about the public's interest in Star Wars, saying otherwise is dishonest. what that means is open to interpretation. but the Star Wars crowd knew it existed, and knew it was in theatres, so either they didn't see it, which reveals a lack of interest in it, or the Star Wars crowd isn't as large as everyone thinks and didn't fuel the overall success of the live-action movies. neither of which bode well for the continued interest in Star Wars IMO from the general public.

I really liked the movie, but there were maybe 15 people in the theater that I went to on opening night. And I might be a little too generous with that estimate. For comparison, Indy 4 was sold out for 5 days straight at the same theater. So it's a pretty weak opening for a Star Wars film and hopefully it's a sobering experience for George and he'll realize that we, the Star Wars fans, won't just follow him wherever he whims to go next.

The strange thing is that, according to a TV Guide interview, George was deliberately trying to "win back" the OT Star Wars fans because he felt that Ep3 was too much of a downer to end the series on. Maybe this is just proof that Lucas has no clue what the hardcore Star Wars fans really like.

Anyways, regardless of my problems with Lucas and his ego, I really liked Clone Wars... as a 90-minute toy commercial and a television pilot. It's definitely not better than the OT, but I do think it's better than all the prequels put together. So I can't wait to see more of this series.

If you're wondering why I liked it, it's for the same reasons that I liked the old GI Joe cartoon: it was a fun way to showcase all the cool new toys. Especially the AT-TE, that's like the coolest Star Wars vehicle ever. :)

So I'm not convincing myself that this was the greatest movie ever, but I had fun watching it and will buy the DVD first chance I get.

Cobra88
08-18-2008, 07:28 PM
Me and my wife went and saw it opening night, we loved it. But I see what you mean by the opening intro, I didn't like that, and Zero. Other than that we enjoyed it.

fred V
08-18-2008, 07:30 PM
it's not about how much money it made,it's about not beating something to death....star wars in my eyes is tops over everything,that being said,again,in my oppinion,this should have stayed on tv,lucas (in my oppinion)is a great producer,one of the best,but lets face it,these new cg movies are not even produced by him,per say,look i do not want to argue,i just thought it lacked alot in every department...but hey,we at least can look forward to the foerce unleashed....which would have made a dope ass movie..........

Paul
08-18-2008, 07:31 PM
lucas jumped the shark man...PERIOD....

When? Star Wars Holiday Special? The Ewok live action TV specials? The Droids cartoon? The Phantom Menace?

This movie was brilliant compared to all of that.

And the fact that you think Force Unleashed would make a "dope ass movie" knowing that the Force effects are so over the top and unbelievable... oh... never mind.

fred V
08-18-2008, 08:08 PM
When? Star Wars Holiday Special? The Ewok live action TV specials? The Droids cartoon? The Phantom Menace?

This movie was brilliant compared to all of that.

And the fact that you think Force Unleashed would make a "dope ass movie" knowing that the Force effects are so over the top and unbelievable... oh... never mind.

sorry if i offended you,i just think the force unleashed looks great from a novel standpoint,not the game aspect,then it would be the same as the clone wars in my eyes,i think the plot behind the force unleashed is much more on par with whats relavent in the star wars universe...from a literary veiwpoint,i don't play the games...the book looks promising though....

sharke
08-18-2008, 09:28 PM
omg the brand is dead cause a movie designed to be a marketing piece for a tv show only did $15 mil!

Reznor
08-19-2008, 04:50 AM
I was working up in booth today, and peaked out into the house that was playing "Clone Wars", and there was two dudes in the entire place. They were probably late 20s or so, but what killed me was the fact that their was NO ONE else in the theater, and here they are, sittin right smack next to eachother. I so wanted to open the port window and yell "NERRRRRDDDSSS" like Ogre from 'Revenge of the Nerds". Even though Im just like them (even though I woulda had a seat between me and my buddy), I so wanted to do it.

spacemonkeymafia
08-19-2008, 05:48 AM
since when is something that "makes" money on it's opening weekend a failure? I don't get that line of thinking, really. And #3, for a show that wasn't even intended to be released as a movie when it was initially created??? Pretty dang good bank. Like I said, which I think some people like to not consider, this was something that was even put out as a movie for the fans, that's it. Almost zero marketing went into this, it was practically an afterthought to release it this way and it STILL MAKES MONEY! some folks just hate Lucas regardless of what he does because he made a series and told a story he wanted to tell regardless of what ANYONE else thought it should be.

Because you have people who hate Lucas and are going to take it out on his movie.......Which I wish they would just shut up and put their money where their mouth is and make something better.........thats right they cant.

BUT.......reading about our beloved GI JOE Movie I dont see it making a ton of money or bringing in any body other than Joe Fans....but these same people dogging the Clone Wars will never admit how bad The Joe movie will suck....they will defend it to their dying day. How do I know.....because Steven Sommers cant Direct (Lucas is better story wise and Action wise) or write........

So when you haters can make something better with your Millions of Dollars than by all means do it!!!

I bet Clone Wars last longer and makes more money then GI JOE (and I want the film to be a blockbuster).............


Oh and even I think Clone Wars Was SO SO............and was glad I didnt pay money to see it..........

shockblast
08-19-2008, 06:20 AM
Because you have people who hate Lucas and are going to take it out on his movie.......Which I wish they would just shut up and put their money where their mouth is and make something better.........thats right they cant.

BUT.......reading about our beloved GI JOE Movie I dont see it making a ton of money or bringing in any body other than Joe Fans....but these same people dogging the Clone Wars will never admit how bad The Joe movie will suck....they will defend it to their dying day. How do I know.....because Steven Sommers cant Direct (Lucas is better story wise and Action wise) or write........

So when you haters can make something better with your Millions of Dollars than by all means do it!!!

I bet Clone Wars last longer and makes more money then GI JOE (and I want the film to be a blockbuster).............


Oh and even I think Clone Wars Was SO SO............and was glad I didnt pay money to see it..........

Give me some of that ILM money I'm sure I could come up with something better. You are spending a lot of time defending this movie on the board when even you admit this movie was not that great. I don't hate lucas at all, as a matter a fact I thank him for 7 of the best films ever made. My fear is that with this being the start of a body of work that may be very long lasting, he is taking a serious risk with the legacy of Star Wars. The animation is not very good compared to other CGI films. There are some pretty weak characters and the R2y thing personally annoys me. I don't think anyone is comparing this to the upcoming GI Joe movie. I think although most of us are looking forward to the Joe movie, very few people here or anywhere would even compare the GI Joe movie to the Star Wars films. My original post that you pretty much Hi jacked said nothing about the GI Joe movie or any of the other true Star Wars films. The point is this movie is badly entertaining. Very much like the 78 special. That doesn't mean nothing good can come of it. IE Boba Fett. It's not a competition between Star Wars and GI Joe don't make it that, but simply admit it was not very good. Remember just as there is to much lucas bashing going on, there is way more blind lucas worship. Also for the amount of money many of us have given him throughout our lives I think just as he earned the right to do whatever he wants. We have the right to tell him it sucks. Just my opinion. Either way swing along mutt swing along

spacemonkeymafia
08-19-2008, 09:13 AM
Well Shock that wasnt even meant for you........It was meant for another Tanker that thinks he is the Holy guru of these boards. Lucas didnt Direct this movie and he didnt even write this movie......

Im sick of people tearing Lucas a new A hole because to them the last 4 movies didnt live up to what the OT was, but to others the movies were good.

Clone Wars was at the last minute put on the Big Screen...should it have? No.....it will look better on TV. Even Lucas said years ago that this was meant for kids........the Bounty hunter live action show is more for the adult Star Wars fans.

sharke
08-19-2008, 10:37 AM
but simply admit it was not very good. Remember just as there is to much lucas bashing going on, there is way more blind lucas worship.

I have 2 questions from this
1) why does someone have to admit your opinion?

2) how is liking Clone Wars blind Lucas worship?

SportingViper
08-19-2008, 11:12 PM
Well Shock that wasnt even meant for you........It was meant for another Tanker that thinks he is the Holy guru of these boards. Lucas didnt Direct this movie and he didnt even write this movie......


hehehehe...I know who you're referring to...Hehehehe :)

ShadoViper
08-21-2008, 02:05 AM
I just watched it tonight.. I didn't see the other Clone Wars cartoon and jumped right into watching this one. I actually enjoyed it and i'd have to say it was pretty good, sure beats trying to watch the Transformers Animated cartoons.

jdizz76
08-21-2008, 02:15 AM
It will be great on the small screen (Cartoon Network), but couldn't hold it's own on the big screen (too many kid friendly moments/jokes). 8/10