What characters have to be in the movie?!

[the_loud_master]

Okay for sure we know that Snake-Eyes will definately be in the movie or there will be a lot of sadness in this world. Other assureds are Destro, CC, SS, Duke, Scarlett, and Baroness. But who esle would you like to see in the movie? Are they major, minor, or cameo roles? Also who would you like to see play the characters?
Snakes-Ray Park
Stalker-Tyrese
Beachhead-?
Shipwreck-Hugh Jackman
Stormy-Jet Li or Donnie Yen
Destro-Sam Jackson just kiddin!
and thats about it for me cause I have to really think about it.

[the_loud_master]

Eva longoria as baroness!

[Gentleman]

Eva Longoria???

No way!

the Baroness has to be played by a sophisticated, european-like actress. Someone like... hmm, perhaps Eva Green:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7261/3078023772d296238a8oba7.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3450/evagreenjamesbondgm7.jpg

Yes... why not. I can totally see her playing an evil woman.

No "hot latina" stuff for Baroness :p

Leave the "sun-tan" hotness for the Scarletts and Lady Jayes (?)




The "core" Joe team should be:

Duke
Snake Eyes
Scarlett
Gung-Ho
Roadblock/Stalker

Supporting characters should be:

Flint
Lady Jaye

Cameo appearances by:

Stalker (if he isn't one of the core 5)
Shipwreck
Beachead
Doc (cuz someone will get hurt)


And Hawk is the man in charge of the team, but he stays home (at some c-kret location-base-bunker-thingy).








EDIT: and please, no "Vin Diesel as Destro" BS. And who says he's bald? that's just an interpretation. Look for a fine, refined scottish actor.



This... I command

[DarthBrett]

Yeah, Baroness is suppose to be Eastern Euro, so a hispanic isn't a wise choice for that character. And Destro is Scottish, so I don't think he will be played by a black actor if he is in the movie.

[wildbill73]

Wild Bill...and he should be played by Sam Elliot

[Gung.Heaux]

if they put sam jackson anywhere near this movie, im gonna s**t. and not the good way either. i, and i do seem to be alone in the world, in this opinion, cannot stand sam jackson.

[bigbadwolfdaddy]

if they put sam jackson anywhere near this movie, im gonna s**t. and not the good way either. i, and i do seem to be alone in the world, in this opinion, cannot stand sam jackson.
nope I hate him as well

[General Scarlett]

Watch the language, please.....it may not seem like anything to you, but to some it is offensive....

Thanks

And Sam Elliott is good, but a bit too old looking to appeal to the generational demographic that Hollywood wants to attract......IMO

[the_loud_master]

Yeah, Baroness is suppose to be Eastern Euro, so a hispanic isn't a wise choice for that character. And Destro is Scottish, so I don't think he will be played by a black actor if he is in the movie.
awright a man can dream cant he?! go for the resident evil chick!

[Monkeywrench]

As far as Joes go. These have to be in the movie in some way imo.

Duke
Scarlett
SE
Roadblock
Stalker
Gung-Ho
Beachhead
Flint
Lady Jaye
Shipwreck
Spririt

[Monkeywrench]

Cobras that have to be in the movie imo.

CC
Destro
Baroness
Major Bludd
Xamot
Tomax
Zartan
Ripper
Buzzer
Torch
SS
Firefly
Scrap Iron
CG

[CaptainDinobot]

Main characters

Duke
Scarlett
Snake Eyes
Flint
Lady Jaye
Roadblock
Gung-Ho
Hawk

supporting

Shipwreck
Covergirl
Wild Bill
Beach-Head
Breaker
Stalker
Doc
Rock N Roll
Spirit

Cobra

Cobra Commander
Destro
Baroness
Storm Shadow
Zartan
Buzzer
Ripper
Torch
Major Bludd
FireFly
Tomax and Xamot

save Falcon, Jinx, Serpentor, Mindbender B.A.T.s, etc for the later movies.

[jmc2915]

Joes: Hawk, Duke, Stalker, Flint, Snake-Eyes, Scarlett

Cobra: Cobra Commander, Destro, Major Bludd, Baroness, Storm Shadow, maybe Zartan

[jmc2915]

I mean there is no need to smother a movie with too many characters. You can start introducing characters in the following ones but not too many like in X3 which was a suck fest.

[Gentleman]

The difference between X-Men and G.I.Joe is that the latter can perfectly be realistic because there is no need for supernatural elements to be involved. Of course we've had them in the toon and in the comic, but they aren't essential, unlike with X-Men. If Storm can't control the weather, she wouldn't be Storm anymore (I use her as an example because it is the most "supernatural" of the mutant powers from the X-Men team from the films).

SO... with G.I.Joe, you can definitely stick to realism. Even the "masked" aspect of Cobra wouldn't be something out of this world, as there HAVE been masked organizations/vigilantes. KKK's, the Bald Knobbers, etc. And, most certainly, terrorists nowadays hide their faces whenever they film themselves with hostages.

Now... realism isn't a synonym for "boring". That's up to the filmmaker. Sommers says he sees the film as a mix between X-Men and Mission Impossible. I can see what he's getting at:

X-Men, as in: You have a team of super-agents where each has a special ability. ie: Snake Eyes is the silent ninja/commando.

Mission Impossible, as in: The whole global/geopolitical implications, the international intrigue, the secret missions, etc. You know.



SO... In my very humble opinion, I'd rid myself of anything that would make this film/series of films fantastic. Show that a simple man like Cobra can become a world menace.

That isn't to say we can't have some super-sophisticated, state-of-the-art, hi-tech elements in it. I'm counting on that. I'm just hoping it isn't some stupid device like the one Magneto has in X-Men 1. See, that's a film that wasn't bad at all, but boy, was Magneto's "master evil plan" not stupid? "Turn humans into mutants"... sheesh.



Make the film serious and realistic... but also FUN.

It can be done.


And keep the humor in place. Don't saturate the film with 30 jokes per minute like in Transformers.

[OUTBACK]

Tyrese goes anywhere near that flick...i'm boycotting. And same goes for Samuel Jackson, i cannot STAND him. horrible actor. he is horrible in serious roles..Mace Windu = HORRIBLEEEEEEEEEE

[Funnel Rat]

Sadly I have little hope of the Joe film being really entertaining. I'm NOT a Sommers fan in the least, his films are way to campy and not in a good way.

Of course I'll still be there opening day...just with low expectations.

[General Scarlett]

.........
Of course I'll still be there opening day...just with low expectations.

Oddly, this was the same thing being said before 'Transformers' hit the theaters......;)

[the_loud_master]

Tyrese goes anywhere near that flick...i'm boycotting. And same goes for Samuel Jackson, i cannot STAND him. horrible actor. he is horrible in serious roles..Mace Windu = HORRIBLEEEEEEEEEE
iwas joking about sam jackson! does anybody know what jk means?

[ShadoViper]

iwas joking about sam jackson! does anybody know what jk means?

Come on.. what's wrong with Samuel Jackson? I'm sure a few "F" bombs can be used in the movie somehow.... LOL I'd especially like to see his "Snakes on the Plane" line used talking about COBRA.....

[the_loud_master]

Come on.. what's wrong with Samuel Jackson? I'm sure a few "F" bombs can be used in the movie somehow.... LOL I'd especially like to see his "Snakes on the Plane" line used talking about COBRA.....
true dat buddy!

[tile_mcgillus]

Oddly, this was the same thing being said before 'Transformers' hit the theaters......;)

And Transformers was HORRIBLE! So lets hope we don't have GIJOE get the Transformers treatment...

-Duke has flames all over his body
-CC is now a Flying Snake Monster
-Roadblock, the only african american person, talks jive and "street" and gets killed
-The story is just about a magic box
-Main characters just disappear at will
-GIJOE is sponsored by Mountian Dew

As you can see, I am still a little sore about TF. But this script sounds like it was actually written by adults this time...fingers crossed!

Oh...
CC- Ralph Fiennes
Baroness - Monica Bellucci
Destro - Laurence Fishbourne
Storm Shadow - Donnie Yen (look him up)

Duke - Aaron Eckhart
Scarlett - Julianne Moore
Snake Eyes - Doug Jones (was Silver Surfer and Kronen from Hellboy)
Roadblock - Ving Rhames
Flint - Clive Owen
Stalker - Samuel l. Jackson (think Basic)

[GI Flow]

Burgess Merideth as Golobulus... kidding.
tile, you might be onto something with Doug Jones.

Dr. Venom and Scarface would make for good cameos.

[tile_mcgillus]

Pictures of the Cast:

CC- Ralph Fiennes
Baroness - Monica Bellucci
Destro - Laurence Fishbourne
Storm Shadow - Donnie Yen
Zartan - Billy Zane
Tomax and Zamot - Kyle Mclaughlin

[tile_mcgillus]

Here is Xamot and Tomax and the joes.

[tile_mcgillus]

Last one, Stalker

[SnakeEyes]

I am with you on all of them except for Destro, and Scarlett...I think Jen Garner would be a perfect Scarlett and I still haven't decided who I like for Destro!

Oh, I'm also a RAY PARK for SE fan, too!

[OUTBACK]

no Sam Jackson , period.

[SnakeEyes]

Julianne Moore is just not HOT like Scarlett needs to be...not HOT at all!!!

[SnakeEyes]

no Sam Jackson , period.

I could do with or without him...he's a supporting act anyways!! IMO

[ShadoViper]

Not sure about Julliane Moore, she seems to be a bit on the short side to pull off Scarlett. She's a great actress but i'm not sure if 5'4 would do her justice.

Maybe:
Kate Walsh from Grey's Anatomy (Private Practice)
Sarah Wayne Callies - Prison Break
Mandy Moore

Hot Redhead, too short:
Isla Fisher - Wedding Crashers

[tile_mcgillus]

Julianne Moore is just not HOT like Scarlett needs to be...not HOT at all!!!

I'm thinking more tough and high ranking. Julianne Moore can be a badass...watch Children of Men. Not a young inexperienced girl.

[tile_mcgillus]

no Sam Jackson , period.

I just think he would be able to bring the intensity needed to be scary enough to be on par with Snake Eyes as Stalker truly is.

[SnakeEyes]

She DOES have the experience edge and oozes sophistication...I just think it's a little much!

I see Scarlett as someone who's seriously focused and mature but, at the same time, she has a sexy, flirty side as well!!

Jennifer Garner has my vote!

[tile_mcgillus]

Im not opposed to that option either. I just don't want some 19 year old girl doing her best to play army.

[SnakeEyes]

Im not opposed to that option either. I just don't want some 19 year old girl doing her best to play army.


AGREED!!!! Totally!!!!!!!

[Irid70]

I just really doubt you'd get Julianne Moore anywhere near GI Joe movie. I think she's a bit too much "serious actress" nowadays.

I'd definitely go for Jen Garner as Scarlet, though. She can already pull off the martial arts/covert ops deal, as we know, from Alias, and it seems like it'd be a great role for her. I also think J. Moore might be a bit too old; my guess is they're gonna go for 30somethings, mostly.

Also, Destro=Gerard Butler. He's already Scottish.

[jmc2915]

Scarlett-Jessica Biel. I thought she was really good in the Blade three physically and she is hot

[karamazov80]

Here is a cynical list I posted at Yojoe when I heard who the director and main producer were supposedly going to be:

Note to movie studio: potential cast for GI Joe: the Movie, directed by man who made Mummy and Van Helsing, written by writer of Epic Movie, produced by Lorenzo di Bonaventura:

Duke: Donny Wahlberg
Snake Eyes: Chris Tucker (with voice, that he uses a lot! It would be funny because in the cartoons and comics he never talks and is stoic, and Chris Tucker screams a lot as Snake Eyes, runs around when scared, etc. Hilarious!)
Roadblock: Anthony Anderson
Flint: Fred Savage
Grunt: Randy Quaid
Beachhead: Tom Arnold
Scarlett: Lindsay Lohan
Doc: Bernie Mac

Cobra Commander: John Travolta (he should channel both Swordfish and Battlefield: Earth characters)
Destro: Leslie Nielson
Baroness: Sandra Bernhardt (channeling character from Hudson Hawk)
Firefly: Carrot Top (his wacky comedic props could be bombs--he should not wear a mask)
Storm Shadow: Andrew "Dice" Clay
Zartan: fat guy from Mad TV

--the rest of the cast should be made up of other cast members from Mad TV--

I haven't been keeping track, but if they are still going with this guy as director, with the silly "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity" script, etc., then you can count me out.

[Shogi]

Zartan: fat guy from Mad TV


Are you talking about Will Sasso? The guy that does Kenny Rogers on MadTV?

That would be perfect for your list :)

[Gentleman]

While I really like Julianne Moore (and I do think she IS a beautiful woman), you can be 100% sure that kind of casting will never take place. Firstly, because of her age - she is in her mid-forties I believe. Second, she's more of an "A" profile type of actress, like someone else has pointed out.

So, yes, I'd go for Jennifer Garner as well. Greg Horn approves.

Jessica Biel would be more suitable for Lady Jaye.

Butler would be interesting as Destro. However, with our luck, they'll use a black actor just because he "sounds" like a black person. :rolleyes:

As for Sam Jackson as Stalker: I dunno. The guy is in every fucking movie. Maybe we'll do better without him, for once. Besides, he's getting old as well. And he'll be doing Nick Fury most probably. You won't be thinking of Stalker as the character, you'll be thinking of Stalker as Sam Jackson... or worse: Sam Jackson as Nick Fury. Not good.

I always thought Hasbro used Clive Owen as a model for their comic pack Flint "upgrade" (headsculpt) and while I do like the idea, he's also getting old. What about, say.. Thomas Jane?

I don't think Ray Park as SE is a bad idea. At least for all the stunts where he's masked. You can get another actor to play the unmasked SE. Like it happens with Spiderman.

I keep thinking of Eva Green as the Baroness. Have you seen her in Casino Royale?




Anyways... keep in mind this will probably become a series of films. Therefore, like it or not, they'll need relatively young actors for certain parts.









Rick Moranis for Cobra Commander

[the_loud_master]

Yes he was great as dark helmet why not?!

[Monkeywrench]

Pictures of the Cast:

CC- Ralph Fiennes
Baroness - Monica Bellucci
Destro - Laurence Fishbourne
Storm Shadow - Donnie Yen
Zartan - Billy Zane
Tomax and Zamot - Kyle Mclaughlin


Dude Yes! Larry Fishbourne has Destro is perfect. He must have this role. I can't believe I didn't think of it already. The rest umm no lol.

[DarthBrett]

I honestly don't understand why does everybody think Destro is black? His voice in the cartoon was playing off of a fellow Scottsman, Sean Connery! And his back history is that of a wealthy Scottish lord.

BTW, I like how a lot people are going with my ideas on who should be playing who in the movie! Here's my list again, for those who missed it in the beginning.


Duke - Aaron Eckhardt
Shipwreck - Hugh Jackman
Roadblock - Terry Crews
Chuckles - Owen Wilson
Spirit - Adam Beach
Doc - Morris Chestnut
Scarlett - Jennifer Garner
Lt Falcon - Luke Wilson
Baroness - Ali Larter (has to dye her hair black and wear the glasses obviously)
Cover Girl - Elizabeth Banks
Flint - Josh Brolin
Major Bludd - Rufus Sewell
Jinx - Lucy Liu
Zap - Michael Pena

[DarthBrett]

BTW, were Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow small in stature (below 5'10", under 175 lbs) or were they of average build?

[the_loud_master]

BTW, were Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow small in stature (below 5'10", under 175 lbs) or were they of average build?
snakes is 6'0 outta uniform and highly athletic build.

[DarthBrett]

Hmmmmmm, I guess they can always cast somebody who's short like this Donnie Yen that was mentioned (Fox did cast Hugh Jackman who is almost 6'0" as Wolverine, who was barely 5'0").

Also, I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this movie now. Stephen Sommers directing? They guy who did two mediocre Mummy movies and one major piece of celluloid garbage called Van Helsing? Cross your fingers, cause this seems like it's already being handed to the wrong director. I also heard that instead of GI Joe being American, that it's more of a world organization like the UN. What's the point of calling it GI Joe then? Even the logo was red.......white.......and blue with the stars and stripes. Man, Hollywood is being run by some inept people.

[the_loud_master]

Hmmmmmm, I guess they can always cast somebody who's short like this Donnie Yen that was mentioned (Fox did cast Hugh Jackman who is almost 6'0" as Wolverine, who was barely 5'0").
true. lets make marvel universe and transformers cameos and see what happens!http://www.hisstank.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[DarthBrett]

I just mentioned Jackman as Wolverine to make a point that sometimes the actor doesn't have to necessarily match the characters physical stature all of the time. Although, I hope they try hard to at least come close with the characters.

[Shogi]

I honestly don't understand why does everybody think Destro is black? His voice in the cartoon was playing off of a fellow Scottsman, Sean Connery! And his back history is that of a wealthy Scottish lord.


Also the fact that that tan part of his costume over his chest....IS his chest!

[General Scarlett]

Julianne Moore is just not HOT like Scarlett needs to be...not HOT at all!!!

Gotta agree.....

While I'm a fan of Julianne Moore, she's just NOT Scarlett......

I'll stick with Jenn for now.....after seeing the 'artwork', looks really decent

[DarthBrett]

Also the fact that that tan part of his costume over his chest....IS his chest!


It is??!!! I didn't know that! I always thought it was yellow and was just an undershirt.

[Shogi]

It is??!!! I didn't know that! I always thought it was yellow and was just an undershirt.

Well it looks flesh tone in the comics and in the Action Force comics he has chest hair :)

[tile_mcgillus]

Gotta agree.....

While I'm a fan of Julianne Moore, she's just NOT Scarlett......

I'll stick with Jenn for now.....after seeing the 'artwork', looks really decent

I completely understand what you guys are saying. Especially for Scarlett (afterall...it is Jennifer Garner in my sig for Scarlett :) ). But her Elektra was ridiculous and I could never get into Alias. Now I can't judge til I see the Kingdom in theatres. She looks like she could definately handle Scarlett from that.

I just get really tired of Hollywood casting uber young people in roles way too old for them. The GIJOE team should be a little aged and mature. These people are the elite of their fields and have risen through the ranks of the military. You don't get to their level by 22.

After all Flint did all this before even joining GIJOE:

Before joining the Army, Flint was a Rhodes scholar and earned a degree in English Literature, before deciding he was bored with scholarly pursuits and enlisted. He graduated with top honors from Airborne School, Ranger School, Special Forces School and Flight Warrant Officers School, and is also a qualified helicopter pilot.

As for Destro. I was casting the voice, stature and the persona, not the race. Like MCD as Kingpin in Daredevil.

[Sgt. Cook]

I think Laurence Fishburne would be great for Destro. I mean the guy wears a chrome mask and a Ricardo Montalban chest piece for a uniform. So why is it so important that his chest be bare in the movie anyway? And as far as his voice in the cartoon being some kinda Sean Cnnory rip off i don't hear. He sounds like Laurence to me but just alittle bit deeper. Or if you are dead set on it having to be Scottish guy why not LF doing a voice over. James Earl Jones wasn't under the Darth Vader mask. Here's my list

G.I.JOE

Duke/Aaron Eckhart
Scarlett/Brittany Murphy
SE/Ray Park
Roadblock/Terry Crews or Jim Brown
Stalker/Djimon Hounsou
Gung-Ho/Gary Nickens
Flint/Michael Biehn
Lady Jaye/Kelly Preston
Shipwreck/Josh Brolin




Cobra

CC/Ralph Fiennes
Destro/Laurence Fishburne
Baroness/Juliet Landau
Major Bludd/Tom Savini
Xamot/Kyle MacLachlan
Tomax/Kyle MacLachlan
Zartan/Billy Zane or Arnold Vosloo
Ripper/Danny Trejo (I know he is not from Tazmania but he's a good actor big tatooed and a biker)
Buzzer/James Marsters
Torch/Tommy Flanagan
SS/Donnie Yen
(saw this from someone else I really like it)

[Funnel Rat]

Fine wish list abounds! I'm really curious how the studio will try and cast this thing.

If they really are shooting for a franchise I would assume they would cast most of the leads around the same age / price range except for the leader characters like Hawk and CC whom they might try and attach some well known names with, and feature these names on all the posters and other promo material...despite if their appearances are little more than extended cameos.

I would think most of the casting will come from Television. It's often cheaper but still with faces that folks can recognize.

[DarthBrett]

If you can't hear the Scottish, Sean Connery-like accent in his voice then you need to watch more of Destro. Just because he has a low voice you are associating that with him being black?

[jmc2915]

What about Jason Statham as Destro

[Sgt. Cook]

If you can't hear the Scottish, Sean Connery-like accent in his voice then you need to watch more of Destro. Just because he has a low voice you are associating that with him being black?


No just because I think Laurence Fishburne sounds pretty close and is a great actor.

[jmc2915]

laurence is black. thats like having wesley snipes play snake-eyes just because we was bad@$$ as blade

[tile_mcgillus]

laurence is black. thats like having wesley snipes play snake-eyes just because we was bad@$$ as blade

Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin in Daredevil. Will Smith in Men in Black. Besides Destro will be wearing a metal mask of some sort...hopefully.

[Shin Densetsu]

I think Sean Connery can be a great Destro. He can play the part of a firm, strategist out to make money but retain a sense of honor. Look at his portray of Bond in the first movies. He comes off as a guy who knows what hes doing, even if you don't, and will play it to his advantage.

Catherine Bell for Lady jaye. Watanabe Ken for Storm Shadow.

[Gentleman]

Y'know what would be a REALLY smart move?

If Cobra Commander will indeed be playing his chess game in the background as the rumor says, and, taking into consideration he will most certainly be wearing a mask... the producers could perfectly keep the actor's identity as a secret until the film premieres. After all... the "body" actor doesn't necesarilly have to be the one who does the voice as well (just like with Snake eyes)



There are ways around it... even today, in the internet days.

[DarthBrett]

No, I think you mis-understood me. The original voice for Destro in the old cartoon was supposed to sound like Sean Connery. My other point was that even though the characters is a Scott, it seems that some people think just because he has a deep voice and his helmet makes him look bald that he should be played by a black actor. Kind of ludicrous and a even maybe little bit stereotypical to think that if you ask me.

[OUTBACK]

Destro is white, enough said.

the JOE universe is so well diverse, that there are so many different ethnicities, that you should let everyone be who they are and everyone will be fine.

...jesus.

[GI Flow]

Destro's voice actor was black. He never struck me as Scottish, sounded more African, like Idi Amin. Alexander Destro is black.

[tile_mcgillus]

That settles it! We shall get Forest Whitaker. After all he played Idi Amin in the Last King of Scotland and he is black! Win for everyone!!!

[GI Flow]

There we go, with a lazy eye Destro. We might as well throw MF DOOM into the mix. (don't know? look him up)

[Shin Densetsu]

Yes but the cartoon continuity is not as great as the comic continuity. Despite many fans growing up with the cartoon, many diehards like us, and casual fans even, KNOW Destro is a scottish arms dealing bad ass with the audacity to wear a shiny helmet into battle, taunt Duke into punching him in the face just to point and laugh at him, and yet still score the femme fatale Baroness. His origins and ancestry dating back centuries in Europe is integral to his character. Sure Alexander Destro is half black, and no one has problems with him being portrayed by a black actor, so there is no race issue. Daddy Destro is scottish, and thus, everyone, even the casual audience, will expect either a Scottish or European actor to take up the mantle of castle Destro.

Its like switching Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and saying Snake Eyes was japanese and Storm Shadow was white, and that one was adopted, and the other was the outsider even though he technically isn't because he is japanese.

Besides there are certain things that are going to be kept for the sake of brand recognition. Again, Destro being a European arms dealer is something Hasbro probably will not let the moviemakers change.

[GI Flow]

I agree Shin. I was kidding, especially about MF DOOM playing Destro. I refer to the Marvel comics as canon for all things Joe. Larry Hama should be the ultimate consultant if comic continuity were to be the example set for the movie. On the other hand, you know how hollywood works...

[Gentleman]

This sounds an awful lot like Darth Vader: He sounded black, but he turned out to be WHITE AND BALD!


Joking aside, I agree: Destro's gotta be white.


I can already see it: The movie was everything fans wanted. Destro was white, Stalker was black... it was GIJOE VS COBRA. Everything just as should be. Fans are already raving and all while the credits roll. And then... they are treated to a "secret" final scene, where Sommers finally reveals Cobra Commander (in the flick, fans only got to see CC's hand, like with Dr. Klaw from Inspector Gadget) and guess what... behind that KKK-like hood of his, fans see BLACK SKIN!!!

And all CC does is laugh histerically.

[Shin Densetsu]

I agree Shin. I was kidding, especially about MF DOOM playing Destro. I refer to the Marvel comics as canon for all things Joe. Larry Hama should be the ultimate consultant if comic continuity were to be the example set for the movie. On the other hand, you know how hollywood works...
Hollywood is dealing with another animal altogether though, Hasbro. Hasbro did not let certain things fly in the Transformers movie, for example, the original Prime design by Ben Procter lacked "ears/side horns" and was blue. Hasbro made it so Prime got his recognizable horns/ears back and that he returned to a more familiar color scheme(red/silver/blue). Same reason Bumblebee was yellow. Those are just a few examples aesthetic wise, but the personalities were tied to how the audience would expect them to be, no matter how different their appearances differ from the G1 cartoon.

They said something about Hama working on the movie when asked about it, they replied :"wait for the check to clear". I would say this means he is being considered by the moviemakers and negotaions might possibly be going on now, but that nothing is final yet. We know Hasbro certainly knows about him, the question is whether or not Hollywood does. Lets hope they do. If there is one man who can write the story of Snake eyes and Storm Shadow, it is him.

MF doom as Destro? L O L. Funnier because I knew who he was the minute you mentioned him(I'm a big underground hiphop fan).

Does anyone remember the F-15 pilot who got shot down in "Red Dawn", and guided the Wolverines? THAT guy should play Hawk.

[Shin Densetsu]

This sounds an awful lot like Darth Vader: He sounded black, but he turned out to be WHITE AND BALD!


Joking aside, I agree: Destro's gotta be white.


I can already see it: The movie was everything fans wanted. Destro was white, Stalker was black... it was GIJOE VS COBRA. Everything just as should be. Fans are already raving and all while the credits roll. And then... they are treated to a "secret" final scene, where Sommers finally reveals Cobra Commander (in the flick, fans only got to see CC's hand, like with Dr. Klaw from Inspector Gadget) and guess what... behind that KKK-like hood of his, fans see BLACK SKIN!!!

And all CC does is laugh histerically.
You forgot the part about the audience seeing that Storm shadow is not a villain after all, just an honorable warrior overlooked, shafted by his own clan, framed, and dealing with his own insecurities(jealousy of Snake Eyes being heir to the Arashikage clan), but living a lie to seek the truth.

God I love that damn story. RAH FTW.

[OUTBACK]

uh-oh,GI Flow...another underground hiphop elitist.

man, i was a Zev Love X fan since the first KMD album (1991), actually before when he worked with 3rd BASS, and just sold all my DOOM vinyl to a hiphop dj for cheap, cheap money.

i have every cd he has ever made, including appearences. i even have the Fondle'Em version of "Operation: Doomsday" and the Subverse version also.

any takers? package deal?

[GI Flow]

uh-oh,GI Flow...another underground hiphop elitist.

man, i was a Zev Love X fan since the first KMD album (1991), actually before when he worked with 3rd BASS, and just sold all my DOOM vinyl to a hiphop dj for cheap, cheap money.

i have every cd he has ever made, including appearences. i even have the Fondle'Em version of "Operation: Doomsday" and the Subverse version also.

any takers? package deal?
How much are we talking about outback? for the Operation: Doomsday...

Man I didn't realize there were Joe fans who were into HipHop. Most of the ones I've ever met were older white dudes that listened to country.

Back to topic though. I hope the check clears for Hama. Then character issues won't be as much of a problem.

[Shin Densetsu]

How much are we talking about outback? for the Operation: Doomsday...

Man I didn't realize there were Joe fans who were into HipHop. Most of the ones I've ever met were older white dudes that listened to country.

Back to topic though. I hope the check clears for Hama. Then character issues won't be as much of a problem.
Hama is integral to the RAH-verse. They need him. Why get someone who doesn't even know much about the mythos to consult for the movie when you can get the man who MADE the mythos consult? Its a win win situation for all of us if Hama is signed on. Foremost because it will be in his hands, and with that, there is no chance of someone outside who just wants to make a buck to ruin the movie.

Hell since he is writing the new comics for the comic packs, the movie and toys can be tied in FURTHER. It will be cheaper hiring him than it would be to hire anyone else doing different jobs that he can do all by himself.

[OUTBACK]

GI Flow i used to be a hiphop dj for many years. What you might call "turntablism", a la Skratch Piklz form of scratch manipulation. worked with rock bands, underground hiphop artists, you name it.

i seen "Operation: Doomsday" just go for $100.00 on eBay, so i don't think you want to pay that much.

back to the topic at hand...

Shin, i must say, you are always on point. It's like you echo what my mind is saying.

[PeterParker]

Here's a few suggestions :

Snow Job - Max Martini ( aka Mack Gerhardt from CBS The Unit ) Especially when he has his beard on the show. Dead on...

Stalker - Dennis Haysbert ( from The Unit and President Palmer from 24) Maybe a little old though, but if you wanted young...
Stalker - Demore Barnes ( from The Unit )

Hawk - Robert Patrick

I know that these are TV actors, but really I don't see an all-star movie actor ensamble making the cast.
The Unit guys are already well versed in military lingo and weapons training and well...I like the show.

[jmc2915]

I think

General Hawk - Michael Biehn or Tom Berenger
Duke - Thomas Jane or Val Kilmer
Flint - Viggo Mortensen or Karl Urban
Stalker - Laurence Fishburne or Dennis Haysbert
Snake-Eyes - Ray Parks
Scarlett - Jessica Biel

Cobra Commander - Gary Oldman or Jeremy Irons
Destro - Jason Statham or Bruce Willis
Major Bludd - Clive Owen or Gary Oldmen (depending on if he is CC or not)
Baroness - Famke Janssen
Storm Shadow -Yun-Fat Chow or Donnie Yen
Zartan - Michael Wincott

Still not really sure about Major Bludd or Stalker but these are the only ones I could think of right now.

[BEACHHEAD]

Cobra Commander - What works with Optimus, don't works with Cobra-Commander. I hope the use a more serious voice as in the cartoon.
Destro - Arnold Vosloo or Gerald Butler
Baroness - Monica Belluci (no other choice)
Zartan - Heath Ledger
Zarana - Lindsey Lohan or Pink
Tomax & Xamot - Rob Lowe
Major Bludd - Tom Savini
Storm Shadow - Tony Jaa! Nobody saw Ong-Bak?

Duke - Aaron Eckhart or Neal McDonough
Clutch - Bruce Campell
Lady Jaye - Jessica Biel
Flint - Marky Mark
Shipwreck - Ryan Reynolds
Stalker - Wesley Snipes or Jamie Foxx
Hawk - Michael Biehn
Outback - Chuck Norris
Wild Bill - Sam Elliot
General Flagg - Robert Patrick
Snake Eyes - Jason Statham

Scarlett- I hope they don't cast standard Red-Heads like Milla Jovo-witch or Jennifer Garner. They should
give the following German Topmodel Winner an acting coach and a crossbow:

Barbara Meier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Meier

[jmc2915]

I think that your destro is great i wish i would have thought of that. But what is with everyone thinking that Jennifer Garner or Milla would be a good Scarlett. Jennifer Garner is so ugly. She has such a big jaw and her eyes are too close togather. And milla is old.

[Sgt. Cook]

Cobra Commander - What works with Optimus, don't works with Cobra-Commander. I hope the use a more serious voice as in the cartoon.
Destro - Arnold Vosloo or Gerald Butler
Baroness - Monica Belluci (no other choice)
Zartan - Heath Ledger
Zarana - Lindsey Lohan or Pink
Tomax & Xamot - Rob Lowe
Major Bludd - Tom Savini
Storm Shadow - Tony Jaa! Nobody saw Ong-Bak?

Duke - Aaron Eckhart or Neal McDonough
Clutch - Bruce Campell
Lady Jaye - Jessica Biel
Flint - Marky Mark
Shipwreck - Ryan Reynolds
Stalker - Wesley Snipes or Jamie Foxx
Hawk - Michael Biehn
Outback - Chuck Norris
Wild Bill - Sam Elliot
General Flagg - Robert Patrick
Snake Eyes - Jason Statham



It's nice to see someone agrees with me about Tom Savini as Major Bludd. He also wouldn't make a bad Torch. But I still think Juliet Landau would make a great Baroness. I just thought of a guy who would be great for Snake Eyes. He is the Inventor of a discipline known as Parkour, his name is David Belle. Watch the movie District B13. Oh Ong-Bak was a great movie. Tony Jaa would be pretty good. One thing though Chuck Norris? I know he's great but come on just to old now.

[Shin Densetsu]

Tony Jaa could accurately portray Storm Shadow's incredible acrobatic abilities, however as an actor, he does not come across as one to portray Storm Shadow.
He would be great as a stunt double, but someone else is needed to portray Storm Shadow's complex character.

BTW Rob Lowe as the twins is a GREAT idea.

[SnAkEyEz]

Eva Longoria???

No way!

the Baroness has to be played by a sophisticated, european-like actress. Someone like... hmm, perhaps Eva Green:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7261/3078023772d296238a8oba7.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3450/evagreenjamesbondgm7.jpg

Yes... why not. I can totally see her playing an evil woman.

No "hot latina" stuff for Baroness :p

Leave the "sun-tan" hotness for the Scarletts and Lady Jayes (?)




The "core" Joe team should be:

Duke
Snake Eyes
Scarlett
Gung-Ho
Roadblock/Stalker

Supporting characters should be:

Flint
Lady Jaye

Cameo appearances by:

Stalker (if he isn't one of the core 5)
Shipwreck
Beachead
Doc (cuz someone will get hurt)


And Hawk is the man in charge of the team, but he stays home (at some c-kret location-base-bunker-thingy).











This... I command

wow!..she would make a good baroness... she's hot too!!

[rock'nroll]

Let's stay away from the obvious...

Main Joe's
Hawk - commanding desk job, little or no action, government go-between

Duke - field commander
Stalker
Snake Eye's - Reluctant to join the group
Scarlett & Lady Jaye - Eye Candy

Subs:
Flint - 2nd in command
Roadblock, Heavy Duty, Tunnel Rat - Comic Relief

Call me crazy cameo - The real Sgt. Slaughter, training or advising on new recruits.

COBRAS -
Cobra Commander - Silver Shield Helmet, Hood only in privacy (like Darth Vader without the helmet). In the comics, shows and toys, CC had a very narrow head under the helmet, think about it, can anyone even pull the look off and get it right?

Destro - (Lawrence Fishburne) not Sam Jackson!!!

Barroness

Storm Shaddow - as a body gaurd to CC or D & B

Subs-
Zartan and Company - Running distractions for the real COBRA opp.

Firefly



PLEASE NO ONE EVEN SUGGEST SERPENTOR!

[rock'nroll]

Let's stay away from the obvious...

Main Joe's
Hawk - Rutger Hauer (or Harrison Ford)

Duke - Matthew McConaughey
Stalker - Sam Jackson
Snake Eye's - ??? (I like the Ray Park idea if we never see his face)


Subs:
Flint - Matthew Fox
Scarlett -
Lady Jaye -
Roadblock - Faizon Love
Heavy Duty - Michael Clarke Duncan
Tunnel Rat - John Leguizamo or Dominic Monaghan

The real Sgt. Slaughter

COBRAS -

Cobra Commander - Liam Neeson

Destro - Lawrence Fishburne
Barroness - Eva Green

Storm Shaddow - Jet Li

Subs-
Zartan - Brad Pitt (he could totally pull it off)
Dreadnoks - Johnny Knoxville, Bam, Steve-O
Firefly -



PLEASE NO ONE EVEN SUGGEST SERPENTOR!

[Monkeywrench]

If they pull off a trilogy. I think it would be really cool to have Dr. Mindbender in the first 2 movies doing a small role. He would be gathering the DNA for Serpentor. The movie would never say that but they could show him maybe 20-30 minutes total in the movies working on it.

Then in the 3rd movie they could work on the Serpentor storyline setting up a 2nd trilogy. That's alot of wishful thinking. However I hope when they are making/writing this movie, they think of a future plan and not make it up as they go.

[Shin Densetsu]

Serpentor could work, he was like the cobra version of General Hawk. As for Tunnel Rat for comedy relief, why? He wasn't funny as a dumbed down character in the Sigma 6 cartoon, even though thats what he was trying to be and to my knowledge, wasn't like that in the RAH comic. Also Road Block and Heavy Duty don't come across as comedians. One is a cook with a huge machine gun and has a habit of shooting down rattlers with it, the other has machine guns too but I don't remember too much about him. Shipwreck is better for comedy relief, and his snarky comments are to be expected


Hawk with little to no action? No way man! He's the leader who has personally led the team into battle many a times. He's not the typical leader who leads from a desk and doesn't do a thing on the battle field, he was definitely not from the mold so to speak. This was shown in the comics many times, and is a defining aspect of his character. The little to no action role you described suits Gen. Flagg more.

I agree with you guys, no Eva Longoria as Baroness.

[Monkeywrench]

Serpentor could work, he was like the cobra version of General Hawk. As for Tunnel Rat for comedy relief, why? He wasn't funny as a dumbed down character in the Sigma 6 cartoon, even though thats what he was trying to be and to my knowledge, wasn't like that in the RAH comic. Also Road Block and Heavy Duty don't come across as comedians. One is a cook with a huge machine gun and has a habit of shooting down rattlers with it, the other has machine guns too but I don't remember too much about him. Shipwreck is better for comedy relief, and his snarky comments are to be expected


Hawk with little to no action? No way man! He's the leader who has personally led the team into battle many a times. He's not the typical leader who leads from a desk and doesn't do a thing on the battle field, he was definitely not from the mold so to speak. This was shown in the comics many times, and is a defining aspect of his character. The little to no action role you described suits Gen. Flagg more.

I agree with you guys, no Eva Longoria as Baroness.


When he said Roadblock for comedy, I think he was reffering to the Sunbow toons when he would talk in rhymes. I don't mind having Hawk lead them in battle but I think he will take away from Duke and Flint. I think Duke and SE should have the most important roles in the movie for the Joes.

[Shin Densetsu]

When he said Roadblock for comedy, I think he was reffering to the Sunbow toons when he would talk in rhymes. I don't mind having Hawk lead them in battle but I think he will take away from Duke and Flint. I think Duke and SE should have the most important roles in the movie for the Joes.
I've never liked Duke, and I think Hawk is better for the role of leading the team. He is the leader after all. I don't think Hawk will take away from either Flint or Duke. Duke is the guy people either hate or love. Hawk will be the guy people like if they hate Duke. Flint is direct and to the point, and very different than either of them. So 3 of them can coexist in the movie without taking anything away from each other.

[Monkeywrench]

I hope your right Shin. You gotta figure there only going to have 6-8 main Joes in the movie.

Hawk
Duke
Flint
SE

Then you have to pick 2-4 more. You have to have
at least one female. So theres Scarlett, but it would be stupid to not have Lady Jaye also. So thats 6.

Now if they go with 8, theres 2 to pick from:

Roadblock
Stalker
Shipwreck
Falcon
Ace
Wild Bill
Dusty
Beach Head
Doc
etc.

Again I'm using the x-men analogy. The first movie only had a few main roles. It would be hard to feature 15-20 main joes imo. I hope they can pull it off.

[wish12oz]

Why would you want a black man to play the part of Destro? He's scottish royalty isnt he?
Whats next? A white Stalker? gtfo!

[Gentleman]

Dunno if it's been proposed already or not, but this thought just crossed my mind:


Edward J. Olmos = Major Bludd

(?)

[darth_paul]

Burgess Merideth as Golobulus... kidding.
tile, you might be onto something with Doug Jones.

Dr. Venom and Scarface would make for good cameos.

Funny, but Burgess Meideth is dead. RIP :(

[darth_paul]

Why would you want a black man to play the part of Destro? He's scottish royalty isnt he?
Whats next? A white Stalker? gtfo!


The same reason they picked a black man to play the very white character of Kingpin in Daredevil. Because the body type fits along with a capable actor of pulling off the part. Besides, even though Destro isn't black, Scotts aren't all white people, there must be some black scottsmen just as there are black Frenchmen right? Also, even though LF is a very capable actor who would be able to pull off the part he doesn't have to speak they could get Connery to come out of retirement to do the voice overs.

[darth_paul]

While I really like Julianne Moore (and I do think she IS a beautiful woman), you can be 100% sure that kind of casting will never take place. Firstly, because of her age - she is in her mid-forties I believe. Second, she's more of an "A" profile type of actress, like someone else has pointed out.

So, yes, I'd go for Jennifer Garner as well. Greg Horn approves.

Jessica Biel would be more suitable for Lady Jaye.

Butler would be interesting as Destro. However, with our luck, they'll use a black actor just because he "sounds" like a black person. :rolleyes:

As for Sam Jackson as Stalker: I dunno. The guy is in every fucking movie. Maybe we'll do better without him, for once. Besides, he's getting old as well. And he'll be doing Nick Fury most probably. You won't be thinking of Stalker as the character, you'll be thinking of Stalker as Sam Jackson... or worse: Sam Jackson as Nick Fury. Not good.

I always thought Hasbro used Clive Owen as a model for their comic pack Flint "upgrade" (headsculpt) and while I do like the idea, he's also getting old. What about, say.. Thomas Jane?

I don't think Ray Park as SE is a bad idea. At least for all the stunts where he's masked. You can get another actor to play the unmasked SE. Like it happens with Spiderman.

I keep thinking of Eva Green as the Baroness. Have you seen her in Casino Royale?




Anyways... keep in mind this will probably become a series of films. Therefore, like it or not, they'll need relatively young actors for certain parts.









Rick Moranis for Cobra Commander


Sam Jackson would be a perfect stalker! I don't care what any of you say, he's my fav actor and FYI he's the hardest working actor in Hollywood and has been in more movies than anyone else ever! That's a fact!