Clone Wars Movie

[MTN]

Man I need to see this. I'm a huge star wars fan and this movie looks like it'll be awesome. But I had questioned should be live action or CG. I found a few clips searching the star wars website and they look really good. I'm assured this movie will be good either way.

the clips were also on youtube

YouTube - The Clone Wars: Battle of Christophsis - Comic Con 2008!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ytbikPI7iE)

YouTube - Star Wars The Clone Wars: New Clips!! (# 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kj_5zk0oJc&feature=related)

YouTube - Star Wars The Clone Wars : The Clones are Coming! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCovBCBZGbs&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0oSGi0mTk&watch_response

[Sysiss]

I don't see anymore live action SW movies coming out anytime soon, *much more involved* but could however see this movie setting a trend of things to come.

SW is still alive and kicking and with the success of the upcoming Clone Wars don't be surprised to see more animated flicks that fill in the gaps of Post- ROTS/Pre-A New Hope and so forth. Those will even be bigger hits then Clone Wars if they end up getting made, and that I'd like to see.

I personally can't get into the animated stuff, but i can't dispute the fact that it has it's fan base and will make money. LOTS...From an advertising standpoint alone, the midnight madness, all the Toys, toys, toys... it just continues to make boatloads of cash.

SW is a money machine and i just can't see them stopping after Clone Wars.

[slim19722]

I'm a huge SW fan also, whether it's live-action, animated/CGI, or comic's and on 8/15, I'll be there for CW. Closes we'll see to more live-action, will be the upcoming SW live-action tv show, which is still some time away. Although, I read awhile back, Lucus has not ruled out letting someone do more live-action movies, but they would be be during the Knights of the Old Republic era or earlier.

[MTN]

yeah I was at the store first thing in the morning to pick up all the new star wars figures. I believe I got a few duplicates. I also got all the joe comic packs I was looking for plus a few singles. that day I spent a little over two hundred bucks on just the star wars alone. And so did a whole bunch of other people. I'll see anything related to star wars and the clone wars movie is definitely another movie I'll be at the midnight showing for. I almost wanted to see a live action clone wars movie though, saying that they already had already made a cartoon series. the CG clips I've seen so far have already won me over. The 2010 live action series I hope will be really good. I just wish I could see some stuff on it.

[Wataru]

Sorry to bump but I didnt want to make a new thread....

I saw it today (2 hour download, wooo!).

I dont see the hate on the film. Its only slightly schitzo on the plot. It goes from war, to kidnapping, to Jedi vs Sith, to cutesy chase to.....what?

The pluses:
Hayden ISNT Anakin. THANK GOD.
Anakin isnt emo or angsty.
New Padawan and the first time a Padawan is mentioned in an SW media since Episode II
Rather snazzy Obi Wan vs Asajj scene

The minsues (word?):
Another plothole (Jabba meets everyone in episode IV-VI)
Obi Wan is rather arrogant.
Dooku is whooped by Anakin?!
No Yoda fights
No Mace Windu fights

Points of this movie are great, some are rather slow. Commander Cody and Captain Rex are nice additions.

4.0/5

[LaDracul]

I dunno, I felt it would've made more sense to make it either direct to DVD or a TV movie.

I do know I want a Huttlett plushie...

[Wataru]

I dunno, I felt it would've made more sense to make it either direct to DVD or a TV movie.

I do know I want a Huttlett plushie...

I think Lucas was trying to get some money back lost on the repackaged toys that are MAJORLY overpriced in the vehicle department.

When Legos ar cheaper then an action figure toy....theyre overpriced.

[Gunzlingr]

It was ok, I think the thing to keep in mind is that above all it is a kids movie that paves the way for the new CN series. All in all I thought it was ok.

[Barefoot Jedi]

I just watched a friend play 3 hours of The Force Unleashed and get past the crazy spider-legs Jedi level and that was many times more entertaining and enjoyable than "The Clone Wars," and that's the opinion of one who fancies himself a big Star Wars fanboy.

[LaDracul]

I think Lucas was trying to get some money back lost on the repackaged toys that are MAJORLY overpriced in the vehicle department.

When Legos ar cheaper then an action figure toy....theyre overpriced.

Yes, but a DVD costs more than a movie ticket...

[Wataru]

Yes, but a DVD costs more than a movie ticket...

Not to produce. A new DVD here is $19.96. A date will cost me $19.50 just to get into the theatre...

....46 cents more, I get a 2 disc DVD with extras, in the privacy of my own home without screaming kids.

[Barefoot Jedi]

Watched the premiere of the show tonight. The first part of the Yoda episode was tedious but it picked up. Really like the second episode. It had some grim mature moments to make up for the slapstick battle droids and Ahsoka Tano (who I am hoping, hoping, hoping gets skewered at season's end by Dooku, Grievous, and/or Asajj Ventress). Plo Koon's voice, not surprisingly, was not what I expected...anticipating a more digitized rasp through his mask, but that was OK. They're treating the clones more as individual characters and not just cannon fodder.

All in all, these two episodes were better than the film (which I guess were the first four/five episodes).

I also liked how the ion blasts paid homage to the first Star Trek film.

[Deckard]

i woulda been behind this more if the animation wasnt so damn blocky like the old mini sodes things were. I liked those stories but i despise that animation. It works for like johnny bravo and dexters lab but leave it out of the cartoons that're supposed to be serious. Its like no cartoon can have any realistic proportions anymore. I would liked shows like JLU, SUPERMAN, clone wars, Teen Titans, and the many others done liek this if the animation wasnt so stupid looking.

[Lo-Wan Bing]

I really liked the premier episodes and was surprised it wasn't a re-play of the movie. Great fun. I think battle droids are becoming my favorite characters :)

[Barefoot Jedi]

i woulda been behind this more if the animation wasnt so damn blocky like the old mini sodes things were. I liked those stories but i despise that animation. It works for like johnny bravo and dexters lab but leave it out of the cartoons that're supposed to be serious. Its like no cartoon can have any realistic proportions anymore. I would liked shows like JLU, SUPERMAN, clone wars, Teen Titans, and the many others done liek this if the animation wasnt so stupid looking.

I prefer realistic to stylized animation for this type of genre also. But content can win me over.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Dude the movie was so-so, but I really dug the show last night.......Yoda again is the man........

[Wataru]

What I dont understand...Episode 3 to Episode 4 is what? 19 years? Then what? 2 years between Episode 4 and 5. Then 1 year between Episode 5 and 6

So in 22 years, Yoda goes from unstoppable object taking on Palpatine, misc bad guys, Dooku....to barely able to lift an X-Wing out of the mud?

I think Lucas tried too much between Episode 2 and Episode 4. Too much history.

[spacemonkeymafia]

What I dont understand...Episode 3 to Episode 4 is what? 19 years? Then what? 2 years between Episode 4 and 5. Then 1 year between Episode 5 and 6

So in 22 years, Yoda goes from unstoppable object taking on Palpatine, misc bad guys, Dooku....to barely able to lift an X-Wing out of the mud?

I think Lucas tried too much between Episode 2 and Episode 4. Too much history.

I think Yoda was just 900 years old and it was his time to go......which in turn weakened him......you dying and such.....lol

[Wataru]

If Im not mistaken he was mentioned to be 800 years old in ESB then jumped to 900 in RotJ. I think it was a writing error. God knows Lucas couldnt write dialog for porn..

Authors who expanded Episodes 1-3 mentioned that age DOES play a factor with Jedi HUMANS, but didnt mention non-human Jedi. So Yoda can be 800-900 years old and in the last 25 falls apart like a 10 year old Ford pickup truck?

...unless they write something into the Clone Wars series here to show perhaps he gets diminished. I noticed him a bit winded when fighting Palpatine in Episode 3 compared to fighting Dooku, where he barely broke a sweat. 'Course fighting a war for 3-4 years...

[spacemonkeymafia]

If Im not mistaken he was mentioned to be 800 years old in ESB then jumped to 900 in RotJ. I think it was a writing error. God knows Lucas couldnt write dialog for porn..

Authors who expanded Episodes 1-3 mentioned that age DOES play a factor with Jedi HUMANS, but didnt mention non-human Jedi. So Yoda can be 800-900 years old and in the last 25 falls apart like a 10 year old Ford pickup truck?

...unless they write something into the Clone Wars series here to show perhaps he gets diminished. I noticed him a bit winded when fighting Palpatine in Episode 3 compared to fighting Dooku, where he barely broke a sweat. 'Course fighting a war for 3-4 years...

No common mistake.....he was 900 and and told luke he has trained Jedi for 800 years.......And Ive seen people one day run in the yard and play Football....then a week later sick as shit and then dead.......

[Lo-Wan Bing]

So in 22 years, Yoda goes from unstoppable object taking on Palpatine, misc bad guys, Dooku....to barely able to lift an X-Wing out of the mud?

.

Yoda lost his fights to both Dooku and Palpatine, given more time and better conditions he would have beat them, but he didn't. He was tough, but I never saw him as unstoppable, (the first thing he did after Dooku got away was to grab his cain and Palpatine had him running) And i never saw any difficulty in lifting the x-wing, he just focused on it and did it.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Yoda lost his fights to both Dooku and Palpatine, given more time and better conditions he would have beat them, but he didn't. He was tough, but I never saw him as unstoppable, (the first thing he did after Dooku got away was to grab his cain and Palpatine had him running) And i never saw any difficulty in lifting the x-wing, he just focused on it and did it.

Wait how did he lose his fights....Dooku Cheated and he was dogging Palps...........

Palps Draw
Dooku he won........

[Lo-Wan Bing]

Wait how did he lose his fights....Dooku Cheated and he was dogging Palps...........

Palps Draw
Dooku he won........

Dooku's goal was to get away and continue the war. the Jedi's goal was to stop him. Dooku got away. He won. If Yoda had been tougher/better he would have been able to stop Dooku (and not let Obi-Wan and Anakin get squished) So, all I mean by that is, even back during the clone wars he wasn't unstoppable. Really really good, but not unstoppable.

[Wataru]

Dooku was incomplete. Dooku was going to lose, but to escape he dropped some debris on Obi-wan and Anakin and escaped.

vs Palpatine, he couldnt win. They were matched in skill. Palpatine's only rival was Mace Windu and that was based on Windu's skill with the lightsaber. Palpatine was an amazing saberman but not as great as Windu. Yoda said he failed when he escaped from Palpatine because he couldnt win.

[Wataru]

Dooku's goal was to get away and continue the war. the Jedi's goal was to stop him. Dooku got away. He won. If Yoda had been tougher/better he would have been able to stop Dooku (and not let Obi-Wan and Anakin get squished) So, all I mean by that is, even back during the clone wars he wasn't unstoppable. Really really good, but not unstoppable.


..wait what? That is the worst run down ever. Dooku was attempting to escape and had his chance when he put Obi-Wan and Anakin down. But Yoda interrupted. Then they matched skills. In Force powers, Dooku believed them equal, and in saber fighting Yoda summarily owned him. Which is why Dooku pulled the debris drop on Anakin and Obi-Wan. That doesnt mean Yoda lost, it means Dooku cut-n-run.

Basically, Dooku retreated. Which is what Cobra did in every single episode of GI Joe. Does that mean the Joe's lost? Nope.

[spacemonkeymafia]

Dooku was incomplete. Dooku was going to lose, but to escape he dropped some debris on Obi-wan and Anakin and escaped.

vs Palpatine, he couldnt win. They were matched in skill. Palpatine's only rival was Mace Windu and that was based on Windu's skill with the lightsaber. Palpatine was an amazing saberman but not as great as Windu. Yoda said he failed when he escaped from Palpatine because he couldnt win.

Yoda is a better swords man than Windu...thats stated by Lucas.....so that doesnt work........he meant he failed because because it was more of a draw........and already tired and weak with Troopers on the way...

And because Dooku cheated it doesnt say Yoda lost..........

[Lo-Wan Bing]

Palps Draw
........

no, Palpatine definately beat him. Yoda had him on the ropes for a while, but after all was said and done, it was Yoda that had to scurry away in defeat. He said it best himeslf "Failed, I have"

[spacemonkeymafia]

no, Palpatine definately beat him. Yoda had him on the ropes for a while, but after all was said and done, it was Yoda that had to scurry away in defeat. He said it best himeslf "Failed, I have"

Man that was a draw....you have to remember in lucas's crazy world high ground means something..........LOL....

Im sorry giving a better place to fight Yoda all the way.........

[Lo-Wan Bing]

..wait what? That is the worst run down ever. Dooku was attempting to escape and had his chance when he put Obi-Wan and Anakin down. But Yoda interrupted. Then they matched skills. In Force powers, Dooku believed them equal, and in saber fighting Yoda summarily owned him. Which is why Dooku pulled the debris drop on Anakin and Obi-Wan. That doesnt mean Yoda lost, it means Dooku cut-n-run.

Basically, Dooku retreated. Which is what Cobra did in every single episode of GI Joe. Does that mean the Joe's lost? Nope.


If Cobra's goal was only to escape, then yes... the joes lost every time. But that usually wasn't their goal, just the outcome. The joes stopping them from stealing some energy do-hickey was a win. Dooku only wanted to start a war and get away. He beat Obi, he beat Anakin and when Yoda tried to stop him, what happened? Did Yoda stop him? No. Did Dooku cheat? well, he is a bad guy after all, so of course he did. But he got away. Therefore Dooku:1 Yoda:0

[Wataru]

Yoda is a better swords man than Windu...thats stated by Lucas.....so that doesnt work........he meant he failed because because it was more of a draw........and already tired and weak with Troopers on the way...

And because Dooku cheated it doesnt say Yoda lost..........

Ugh no no. Windu was the greatest saber weilder at the time. Lucas got so lost in the universe he STARTED and allowed others to expand that he cant even keep it straight. Lucas and his company will allow others to write in the SWU and then just spit in their face and ignore them, screwing over canon, or write subpar stories.

Yoda's goal was to kill Palpatine and end the Sith controlling the Senate. He couldnt do it because Palpatine was an extremely powerful well rounded Sith Lord. Also, the ability to draw on The Force was diminished in Episode 2-3, as stated by Mace Windu. Windu's Force speciality and saber techique are what gave him an edge of Palpatine.

[SPC Airborne]

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[spacemonkeymafia]

Ugh no no. Windu was the greatest saber weilder at the time. Lucas got so lost in the universe he STARTED and allowed others to expand that he cant even keep it straight. Lucas and his company will allow others to write in the SWU and then just spit in their face and ignore them, screwing over canon, or write subpar stories.

Yoda's goal was to kill Palpatine and end the Sith controlling the Senate. He couldnt do it because Palpatine was an extremely powerful well rounded Sith Lord. Also, the ability to draw on The Force was diminished in Episode 2-3, as stated by Mace Windu. Windu's Force speciality and saber techique are what gave him an edge of Palpatine.


Nope before anything in SW goes to print it is giving to Lucas to read and approve.......

And I believe the thing Windu said was a plot point never fully gone into........such as Medaclorines........which was kinda swept under the rug........

[Lo-Wan Bing]

Man that was a draw....you have to remember in lucas's crazy world high ground means something..........LOL....

Im sorry giving a better place to fight Yoda all the way.........

i agree, Yoda would have taken him under diff' circumstances. In the office he totally had him and Palpatine knew it (that's why he tried to run) But the battles only over when it's over... and that was when Yoda "cut n' ran" :)

[Wataru]

If Cobra's goal was only to escape, then yes... the joes lost every time. But that usually wasn't their goal, just the outcome. The joes stopping them from stealing some energy do-hickey was a win. Dooku only wanted to start a war and get away. He beat Obi, he beat Anakin and when Yoda tried to stop him, what happened? Did Yoda stop him? No. Did Dooku cheat? well, he is a bad guy after all, so of course he did. But he got away. Therefore Dooku:1 Yoda:0

No, seriously, you need to read the official novels. Dooku was a disillusional Jedi Master who fell into the Sith because he thought they had the vision and drive that the Jedi and Senate were lacking. He was called Darth Tyrannus because he was the old powerful lion. Tyrannus' disillusionment aided Palpatine and his goals. Which is why Palpatine killed Dooku and Dooku looked shocked. Sith only have 1 apprentice and Dooku was Palpatine's but Palpatine knew when he recruited Dooku that he was just a player. When Palpatine met Anakin, he began molding him into the apprentice he wanted.

Dooku's goal was to start the war and with the arrival of the Clone Army, before schedule (Obi Wan ran across it by accident), surprised him. Its unknown of Dooku knew about Order 66 but he was leaving because he knew the army of Geonosis would lose. Obi Wan and Anakin intercepted him and Dooku bested them. Anakin gave him a bit of trouble and it winded him. Yoda intercepted him and Dooku ENGAGED YODA and when he realized Yoda was the better, he pulled a trick and ran.

Retreat.

Its what Cobra did.

The fight wasnt complete, but Yoda had it in the bag. If Anaki and Obi Wan werent there, Yoda wouldve ended Dooku.

[spacemonkeymafia]

i agree, Yoda would have taken him under diff' circumstances. In the office he totally had him and Palpatine knew it (that's why he tried to run) But the battles only over when it's over... and that was when Yoda "cut n' ran" :)

He ran because he had to.........Troopers were on the way and he couldnt hold palps and them off at the same time.......

[spacemonkeymafia]

No, seriously, you need to read the official novels. Dooku was a disillusional Jedi Master who fell into the Sith because he thought they had the vision and drive that the Jedi and Senate were lacking. He was called Darth Tyrannus because he was the old powerful lion. Tyrannus' disillusionment aided Palpatine and his goals. Which is why Palpatine killed Dooku and Dooku looked shocked. Sith only have 1 apprentice and Dooku was Palpatine's but Palpatine knew when he recruited Dooku that he was just a player. When Palpatine met Anakin, he began molding him into the apprentice he wanted.

Dooku's goal was to start the war and with the arrival of the Clone Army, before schedule (Obi Wan ran across it by accident), surprised him. Its unknown of Dooku knew about Order 66 but he was leaving because he knew the army of Geonosis would lose. Obi Wan and Anakin intercepted him and Dooku bested them. Anakin gave him a bit of trouble and it winded him. Yoda intercepted him and Dooku ENGAGED YODA and when he realized Yoda was the better, he pulled a trick and ran.

Retreat.

Its what Cobra did.

The fight wasnt complete, but Yoda had it in the bag. If Anaki and Obi Wan werent there, Yoda wouldve ended Dooku.

Dude if you wanna go real deep in it Lucas has dropped hints that Palps knew and had plans for Ani from his birth through the force......I believe from what Ive read from Lucas that Sids Master created Ani.......and Palps had this whole thing in the works since Ani was born......

[Wataru]

i agree, Yoda would have taken him under diff' circumstances. In the office he totally had him and Palpatine knew it (that's why he tried to run) But the battles only over when it's over... and that was when Yoda "cut n' ran" :)

It was a draw, just deal with it. Neither got what they wanted. Palpatine didnt kill Yoda, and vice versa.

Nope before anything in SW goes to print it is giving to Lucas to read and approve.......

And I believe the thing Windu said was a plot point never fully gone into........such as Medaclorines........which was kinda swept under the rug........

The Sith were clouding the ability to draw upon the Force. Its mentioned in the novels.

Lucas approves ALOT but he IGNORES what he approves when its convient. Its called bad story writing.

[Lo-Wan Bing]

The fight wasnt complete, but Yoda had it in the bag. If Anaki and Obi Wan werent there, Yoda wouldve ended Dooku.

"would've" ended Dooku. Key word. "would've" I dig Yoda. I've read the books (EU and all) But Dooku still got away (doesn't have anything to do w/order 66 or Anakin eventually whaking him) In that one fight the Jedi wanted to stop Dooku from getting away and they couldn't. So when you say Yoda was unstoppable in the PT and weak in the OT, I just have to disagree. He was 'never' unstoppable. Really really good. But not unstoppable. Now, against droids... we all know 1 Jedi is worth 1000 droids :)

[spacemonkeymafia]

It was a draw, just deal with it. Neither got what they wanted. Palpatine didnt kill Yoda, and vice versa.



The Sith were clouding the ability to draw upon the Force. Its mentioned in the novels.

Lucas approves ALOT but he IGNORES what he approves when its convient. Its called bad story writing.


So Palps by his self was Clouding the Entire Force? Maybe why it got dropped......


Yes this is true but the sad fact is Lucas has Final say.....rewrite or not......

[Wataru]

Dude if you wanna go real deep in it Lucas has dropped hints that Palps knew and had plans for Ani from his birth through the force......I believe from what Ive read from Lucas that Sids Master created Ani.......and Palps had this whole thing in the works since Ani was born......

No see this is what Lucas does. He will ignore anything written to throw out his own crappy storylines. He wrote the entire legend of the Chosen One to bring order to the Force. He then closed it beforehand when Vader killed Palpatine to save Luke who would go on then to usher in the New Jedi Order.

Now he's going back to say, oh the Sith planned Anakin's birth long before he was concieved.

He cant hold a plotline. He has ADHD, seriously.

[Lo-Wan Bing]

Dude if you wanna go real deep in it Lucas has dropped hints that Palps knew and had plans for Ani from his birth through the force......I believe from what Ive read from Lucas that Sids Master created Ani.......and Palps had this whole thing in the works since Ani was born......


weird, I've always thought the same thing with the whole "there was no father" bit. And the balance to the Force prophesy(sp?), when you've got thousands of Jedi and no (known) sith, doesn't seem like a good thing.

[spacemonkeymafia]

No see this is what Lucas does. He will ignore anything written to throw out his own crappy storylines. He wrote the entire legend of the Chosen One to bring order to the Force. He then closed it beforehand when Vader killed Palpatine to save Luke who would go on then to usher in the New Jedi Order.

Now he's going back to say, oh the Sith planned Anakin's birth long before he was concieved.

He cant hold a plotline. He has ADHD, seriously.

IDK man I like it......if true shows how long The Empire was in the works.......

[spacemonkeymafia]

I still think Yoda was the shit although nowhere near unstoppable......but there was a reason why he was Head of the Jedi Council..........

[Wataru]

So Palps by his self was Clouding the Entire Force? Maybe why it got dropped......


Yes this is true but the sad fact is Lucas has Final say.....rewrite or not......

His final say on the prequel trilogy, while a financial success, are spit upon by his fans.

Lucas can put "Star Wars Rancor Meat" on bologna and saw Luke grew up on it on Tatooine, and its still a bunch of BS.

Star Wars, while popular, was made MORE popular by the Expanded Universe. While Lucas approved it, its 10x better and more fans love the novels and comics then the prequel movies. Lucas decides to write plot holes because he cant remember or choses not to remember what he and his company gave the green light on with the novels, comics, games..

Just because he has the final say, doesnt make it write. Apparently, since he rewrites his own mythos (see Anakin Sith Origin I responded to above)

[spacemonkeymafia]

His final say on the prequel trilogy, while a financial success, are spit upon by his fans.

Lucas can put "Star Wars Rancor Meat" on bologna and saw Luke grew up on it on Tatooine, and its still a bunch of BS.

Star Wars, while popular, was made MORE popular by the Expanded Universe. While Lucas approved it, its 10x better and more fans love the novels and comics then the prequel movies. Lucas decides to write plot holes because he cant remember or choses not to remember what he and his company gave the green light on with the novels, comics, games..

Just because he has the final say, doesnt make it write. Apparently, since he rewrites his own mythos (see Anakin Sith Origin I responded to above)

Dude I dug the Prequels and i know the whole political part was a big problem and Jar Jar........but you had to tell the story of how it happened........I liked Eps 1,2 and 3.........not ALL fans think that way.....

[Wataru]

weird, I've always thought the same thing with the whole "there was no father" bit. And the balance to the Force prophesy(sp?), when you've got thousands of Jedi and no (known) sith, doesn't seem like a good thing.

After the Jedi Sith War, the Sith started the One Master One Apprentice philosophy. And the apprentice would kill the master. It was to keep their presence secret and to build up to destroying the Jedi and ruling the universe.

Anakin has a great story but the tools theyre using for his backstory are so incredibly bad. Like I said, Lucas just rewrote his own mythos. Most likely because people have this fanfic fetish with prequels now. Lucas doesnt write this stuff alone, others fill it in. And like all bad writers, Lucas is just throwing out ideas to expanded the universe and its butchering whats already worked!

[Lo-Wan Bing]

His final say on the prequel trilogy, while a financial success, are spit upon by his fans)

not 100% true. PT, OT, EU... I dig SW, man. It's all good. Ewoks, Gungans, and Hoojibs all have a place in my world. :)

[spacemonkeymafia]

I like where he went...so Different Strokes.........

[Wataru]

I gotta say, I LOVE aspects of TPM and I liked the stuff from the Clone Wars 5 minute toons and new CW movie but some of it is just terrible...

But seriously....EU and prequel books > all Lucas movies save ESB and RotJ

[darthdoug]

weird, I've always thought the same thing with the whole "there was no father" bit. And the balance to the Force prophesy(sp?), when you've got thousands of Jedi and no (known) sith, doesn't seem like a good thing.

My theory: If Lucas had the balls he should have skipped the whole Miniclorians crap and just said that Senator Palpatine was out drinking one night at a little bar on Tatooine known as a hive for local villany & scum. On the way home he saw a young Shmi turning tricks for extra cash (as moisture farming was having a rough season).

He picked up this lady of the night for just a few republic credits. He banged her in the back of his Sith Speeder and dumped her on the curb.

A few years later... Oops... the Coruscant Times reports the senator has a scandalous fling fathering a kid to this Tatooine Slave Girl. Next thing you know the boy is in training to become a Jedi.

That's it! Trade Mark... patent pending... haha.

[slim19722]

I see nothing wrong with the whole Miniclorian thing. Palps may have knew of Anakin, but I believe it was Darth Plagius who manipilated the midiclorians to concieve Anakin. EPIII when Palapatine is telling Anakin about Plagius. That Plagius had the ability to create life with the help of the Darkside of the Force(midiclorians), but Palps killed Plagius before he himself could learn the secrets to create life with Darkside.