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Rockshield
09-17-2011, 12:35 AM
Got my hands on the new "Renegades" Snake Eyes figure, and thought I'd share the experience... although for the life of me I cannot figure out how to make these tiny bitty thumbnails bigger....

92007

I like the new card art and packaging. It says "Renegades" right on the front, so you know what now-defunct show you're buying into. Also, the artwork looks like it comes straight from the show... although if you look closer, you will see it was altered to match the figure. (The color patterns on Snake Eye's hands are completely different then they were in the show)

91985

I was actually surprised how unique the figure looked when I first pulled him out of box. I remember the prototypes we saw earlier looking like the old resolute figure with a new head. Turned out to be dead on accurate, although the new arms and webgear help alot.

91986

The first thing I do when pulling out something from a new wave is open up the mini-poster and see if we've finally got something new. No luck here... as we see Snow Job and his artic scene being advertised, along with the first wave of figures. HASBRO - newsflash - update the inserts or scrap the idea. Please :)

91987

Now.... the accessories. Although it seems like we've got enough "stuff" for the Ninja Commando, it actually looks like a light weapon load-out. Recently, Hasbro has been stuffing the PoC figures with things like extra heads, masks, helmets, guns, swords, knives, machete's, and so forth.. so he looks almost short changed here.

According to the file card, these are: the Hand-forged Katana and wakizashi sword, the Plasma pulse baster, and twin "tek-sai". He comes with a very small backpack and webgear, and the usual stand.

91988

I was actually surprised at how unique the figure looked when I first pulled him out. I remember the prototypes we saw looked like the resolute figure with a new head. Turned out to be dead on, but the new webgear and arms make it stand out somewhat.

91989

91990

Now the torso and legs are just a simple repaint, but the arms and hands are completely new. The hands feature the same new wrist articulation that v54 SE and Low Light came with, but the hands themselves are new. Because of the added swivel, the hands look really long and funky. Overall his reach is slightly longer then the Resolute figure... although this pic barely shows that.

91991

91992

Something I thought was interesting and cool is the approach to the paint job around the knees. Instead of just making the knee pad silver, the paint actually went the full diameter of the mid leg, making it all look "together".

91993

The "pulse blaster" sits on his left side as in the show, but inside of a clip, instead of a holster. One of the designers told me that originally a holster was made, but because it was HUGE (to fit the big bulky gun), it was scrapped for this clip. It doesn't look bad in my opinion. The rest of the weapons all fit on the figure... something I like since I don't have to open up a baggie to store everything else in.

On a side note, according to the file card, this blaster is "silenced" - although there is no visable way one would come to that conclusion.

91994

Now the swords - WOAH! This is NOT what I expected at all. Snakes carried twin ninjato's crossed across his back. This looked more like an update on the Resolute figure's sword-carrying method. According to the file card, this is the "Hand-forged Katana and wakizashi". The only problem is that in no way resembles a Katana. If you have seen enough Samurai movies, then you're probably familiar with the method of carrying two swords in the waist area. This is commonly known as daishō, translated as "big-little". The katana was the big or long sword and the wakizashi the companion sword. I would LOVE to see this in a samurai action figure... but it has very little place on Snake Eyes. He didn't carry these swords in the show, so why did we get this? And why does the name "Katana" keep coming up? The katana is curved.

The swords though DO look good and if it hadn't been for the lack of integrity to the inspiration, I would absolutely love this weapon load-out.

Above the swords, we get two "tek-sai", one is open and one is closed. I do believe they appeared on the show and are a nice touch, albeit a bit snug in the backpack.

91995

Here we have the familiar Arashikage Clan emblem. It appears on both shoulders and is both accurate and big enough. During the Sigma 6 period, (and in IDW's run of the Joe comics) this emblem was messed up several times, so I always cringe until I see it done properly.

91996

Somehow, Snake Eyes lost a little bit of height by going back to the Resolute body.

91997

At least the Clan emblem looks MUCH better!

91998

Although this is the same EXACT head that came with both of the two most previously released Snake Eyes figures, I really like the repainted visor. Seems like the silver brings out the detail a bit.

91999

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92001

92002

Now here comes the confusion, and hopefully we can get some further clarity on this from Hasbro. According to the file card, this figure's combat gear include "ARASHIKAGE blade with stand", and "ninja grappling hook". Try as I might, I could not find these in the bubble (sarcasm). Did we get shortchanged here? Was there a bigger weapon assortment planned, and why did it get cut?

92003


Overall, I think the figure is cool and represents the show SORT-OF. The biggest element I was looking for was the crossed twin swords, which obviously was completely dropped. I don't understand the constant confusion between ninja and samurai, and although it's not the end of the world, it gets old.

Aside from my issues with the relation between the show and the end product, I think this is a really sweet figure. The weapons look sharp and are all new, and the detail on both the head and the body (as in previous releases) are nice. The weapons are truly the main reason to pick this figure up, as the body wouldn't be hard to create on your own.

fireflyguy
09-17-2011, 01:29 AM
Thanks for the pics and review! I originally thought I would get this fig, but the more I looked at it, the more under-whelmed I was with it. It's not a bad figure at all, but even though I like SE, I really don't need another one, especially one that is this close to the CS/Res SE.

killeykahn
09-17-2011, 08:05 AM
As snake-eyes' go, for me its kinda a so-so fig. I'm kinda wishing they didn't use the wetsuit forearms, I always get the feeling that the left forearm, doesn't bend as much as the right.

as for equipment, I kinda felt shortchanged when I opened him.as seen in generalsjoes are some of the cut equipment, same as FF,Duke, and CC. I just hope they don't cut some of the equipment that comes w/ 30th lifeline, SS, etc.

SE
http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/superpage-2012-wave-2-figures/09_snakeeyes.jpg

duke
http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/superpage-2012-wave-2-figures/04_duke.jpg

links are from generalsjoes.com

fireflyguy
09-17-2011, 08:35 AM
As snake-eyes' go, for me its kinda a so-so fig. I'm kinda wishing they didn't use the wetsuit forearms, I always get the feeling that the left forearm, doesn't bend as much as the right.

as for equipment, I kinda felt shortchanged when I opened him.as seen in generalsjoes are some of the cut equipment, same as FF,Duke, and CC. I just hope they don't cut some of the equipment that comes w/ 30th lifeline, SS, etc.

SE
http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/superpage-2012-wave-2-figures/09_snakeeyes.jpg

duke
http://generalsjoes.com/wp-content/gallery/superpage-2012-wave-2-figures/04_duke.jpg

links are from generalsjoes.com

Oh, I definitely second that! Especially the Lifeline! That equipment really adds such a nice touch to the classic figure. Please, please Hasbro, don't let us down on the Lifeline!

Rockshield
09-17-2011, 12:38 PM
as for equipment, I kinda felt shortchanged when I opened him.as seen in generalsjoes are some of the cut equipment, same as FF,Duke, and CC. I just hope they don't cut some of the equipment that comes w/ 30th lifeline, SS, etc.


Even WITHOUT the previous pictures, he looks equipment-lite, due to the fact that the PoC line was so amply stocked. Since when did a Joe come with only 1 gun in 2011? Even the Renegades Duke has FOUR handguns....

.. one for Snakes to borrow?

The good thing about the stuff shown in the TNI pics is that they are easy to add to your SE display. They don't even look repainted.... so fortunately it's not like we're not going to have something that was NEW.

PROVOST
09-17-2011, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the pix OP!!!

These look like they are really going to be great!!!

Splintershins
09-17-2011, 12:51 PM
Those knobbly wrists kinda drop the figure down a few notches. The prototype had much better looking hands/wrists. I'm not seeing much here that makes this a "must buy" figure.

Cannon Fodder
09-17-2011, 02:30 PM
I don't like the fact his pants below his knee pads doesn't match the rest of him. Why blue-ish purple? Just stick with black! But, I'm one of the hated SE whores so I'll buy it anyhow.

Kroenen
09-17-2011, 03:15 PM
Thanks for this very insightful review and for all the awesome pics. Do you plan to review the other figures of the wave?

MFJayman
09-17-2011, 04:00 PM
I'm a bit leery about the newfangled wrist and hand articulation on these newer figures. I think there's a case of diminishing returns when it comes to articulation--at a certain point, the extra little bits of articulation (like on hands and feet) just aren't worth it unless they look good. If it doesn't look so good, than don't bother with it. I'm fine with the old style wrist articulation, so long as the hands don't pop out.

Anyway, the fact that this SE draws heavily from the Resolute SE and City Strike SE doesn't bother me, since I never got the former and never opened the later. So this figure should feel pretty new to me. I'm still eagerly awaiting my 12 pack--hoping it arrives today!

Rockshield
09-18-2011, 11:08 AM
I don't like the fact his pants below his knee pads doesn't match the rest of him. Why blue-ish purple? Just stick with black! But, I'm one of the hated SE whores so I'll buy it anyhow.

The lower legs are just a bit darker than the rest of the figure, but its not a REAL big difference. I AM in the same boat as you, CF. If it was a Duke figure that accidentally got labled as "Snake-Eyes", I'd have to pick up a couple.

Thanks for this very insightful review and for all the awesome pics. Do you plan to review the other figures of the wave?

Thanks for the kind words! I don't now about the rest of the wave; I did pick up the Renegades Duke and Firefly, as well as the Cobra Trooper. If I have some time I'll put up some pics.

Steel Brigade
09-18-2011, 12:50 PM
The arms are from 25th Torpedo.
I find this figures colors are off from the cartoon as well as his pack out is not cartoon accurate. H
is head does not fit properly on the neck so it can only move side to side with no up & down motion (like POC Recondo). I am recomending this figure only to those who love Renegades, Snake Eyes, Completionists, or if you want the new weapons, as those are the biggest asset to this figure.
He's better than the Jungle Assault SE, but pales to Desert Battle SE ver 2 & is not as good as the Reso SE either.

PlanckEpoch
09-19-2011, 04:32 AM
Such a shame about the lost accessories. I hope this is just localized to the first four Renegades figures and is not indicative of how the rest of 30th Anniversary is going to go.

I was going to get this Snake Eyes as the only Renegades figure I wanted but...not much anymore. It just doesn't look good or appealing. A shame 'cuz the accessories are pretty nice.

Keiichi
09-19-2011, 05:21 AM
Such a shame about the lost accessories. I hope this is just localized to the first four Renegades figures and is not indicative of how the rest of 30th Anniversary is going to go.

I was going to get this Snake Eyes as the only Renegades figure I wanted but...not much anymore. It just doesn't look good or appealing. A shame 'cuz the accessories are pretty nice.

Unfortunately there's already a precedent of lost accessories with the wave 1 30th Iron Grenadier, which lost the FG42 and camo paint scheme on the uniform which the PoC version had. I'm kind of getting a bad feeling that Renegades Storm Shadow is going to lose some accessories, but on the other hand, if Hasbro needs to cut some accessories in order to make a figure's release cost effective, I'd rather they do that instead of axing the figure altogether, haha (oh, they gotta keep that SS alternate head though!).

mikey77
09-19-2011, 05:27 AM
He looks too stubby Renagades Snake eyes was tall and lankey..they should have made him taller and lean..

Laser Viper
09-19-2011, 07:46 AM
For now im on the fence about the Renegade line up for GI Joe. I mean i'm impressed with the 30th line up and with vehicles too, but ill wait to see all them in person before pulling the trigger to buy.

MJjoe4life
09-19-2011, 07:57 AM
Thanks for the nice review and pics man.

spike78a
09-19-2011, 10:05 AM
thanks for the nice extra large pics and the review. did you happen to acquire the renegades duke figure as well? if so will you be doing a review?

Colder Soldier
09-19-2011, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the review. I'll be saving money on that one.

sjames90
09-19-2011, 10:37 AM
Great review! Thanks for the good pics.

Black Llama
09-19-2011, 10:38 AM
I like the figure. I hate the blue accessories. Sorry, I know it's "cartoon based" but if they were done in grey/black/silver it would have been much better.

Maybe it's an ARAH hangup, but whenever I see blue weapons I think 'accessory pack' and then I think 'not cool'

Tracer
09-19-2011, 10:52 AM
Nice Review, I liked the Renegades show so I will be picking this up.

Stryker927
09-19-2011, 10:57 AM
Meh, pass. Starting to get a lot picker about which figures I am going to pick up out of this line.

Shin Densetsu
09-19-2011, 11:35 AM
Can his swords be stored in his backpack where the sais are stored?

Rockshield
09-19-2011, 12:38 PM
Can his swords be stored in his backpack where the sais are stored?

nope. I though of this, but the backpack is more of a pocket, with a slot at the top. Only something very short will fit in there. The Sai have trouble fitting right because of the open one...

Shin Densetsu
09-19-2011, 01:12 PM
nope. I though of this, but the backpack is more of a pocket, with a slot at the top. Only something very short will fit in there. The Sai have trouble fitting right because of the open one...

Well that sucks. The only Snake Eyes figures in this scale that have 2 crossed scabbards are GVC 2002 Snake Eyes and Temple Guardian Snake Eyes. This one ought to have them since that's how he looked in the show!

PlanckEpoch
09-20-2011, 09:13 PM
Unfortunately there's already a precedent of lost accessories with the wave 1 30th Iron Grenadier, which lost the FG42 and camo paint scheme on the uniform which the PoC version had. I'm kind of getting a bad feeling that Renegades Storm Shadow is going to lose some accessories, but on the other hand, if Hasbro needs to cut some accessories in order to make a figure's release cost effective, I'd rather they do that instead of axing the figure altogether, haha (oh, they gotta keep that SS alternate head though!).

True. I'm not SO upset at the loss of the FG-42 as I've always found it an odd accessory anyways. The M1 Garands that came with the comic pack Crimson Guard look great as ceremonial rifles, but FG-42 has no place in the modern GI Joe canon IMHO. I am bugged at the loss of the camo paint job though. It looked fantastic on the IG.

MeLikeJinx
09-21-2011, 08:46 PM
I just got one... I think he looks cool, but I am keeping him MOC and mostly just got him to commemorate poor Renegades... 2010-2011 RIP.

Maybe it's an ARAH hangup, but whenever I see blue weapons I think 'accessory pack' and then I think 'not cool'[/B][/COLOR]
LOL. Yah, I remember that ARAH accessory pack with the cool weapons in weird colors. LOL.

zedhatch
09-21-2011, 10:14 PM
I am probably passing on this, after POC W3 it's hard to justify yet another even with added articulation.

wowtirrus
09-27-2011, 06:10 PM
Thanks for the review and the photos. I haven't seen it in my neck of the woods yet but am looking forward to seeing it when it shows up.

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Steelgrave
09-27-2011, 09:21 PM
Screw Snake Eyes! Enough is enough. They can't get 1 goddamned Sci-Fi into stores but they can make sure Snake Eyes is in every friggin wave.

Hasbro wants to make money? Well the only thing they're getting from me is the finger. Both of them!

KushViper
09-28-2011, 05:44 PM
Nice review Rock!

IIIzoeIII
09-28-2011, 09:44 PM
I like that they at least changed his arms out...I would like to see a tanker repaint this guy from head to toe though.

MFJayman
09-29-2011, 12:16 AM
nope. I though of this, but the backpack is more of a pocket, with a slot at the top. Only something very short will fit in there. The Sai have trouble fitting right because of the open one...

The clip/magazine of the Uzi fits in the slot of the backpack perfectly. It might look a little weird, but it stays in quite snugly. The open sai can dangle in the belt "holster", but I keep those sai in the packaging anyway and don't bother with 'em.


Anyway, there is only one thing I don't like about this Snake Eyes, and it's kind of critical. THE LEFT ARM. The elbow can barely bend. This is very uncool. I've come to accept and really like the City Strike/Resolute style sculpt of Snake Eyes versus the more commando POC wave 3 SE, and everything about this Renegades SE was just what I was looking for in a modern ninja/commando SE, but...THAT LEFT ARM! WTF? The right arm seems fine, but the LEFT ARM?? This REALLY bothers me!

ljacone
09-29-2011, 08:13 AM
Excellent pictures and review! I don't think I will be picking up this version of Snake-Eyes but he does look pretty sweet!

nighthawk
10-31-2012, 04:03 PM
Kinda late to the ball game but I was wondering, I have never seen any pics of him without his webgear and belt. Are those removable? Also, the backpack, I'm wondering if anyone tried cutting holes on the bottom so the swords can go in there?

nighthawk
11-01-2012, 04:33 PM
I finally opened mine last night. I really like the figure. I wanted to use his webgear for a custom so I gave him the one from the 25th 5 pack. I love how the gun fits so perfectly in the holster. I do wish his wrists weren't so bulbous though, but I really like the figure though. I'd never pay full price for it though. I got it for free basically.

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