joe movie poster lame?????????

[fred V]

these posters are looking pretty bad man,i really think they should have went with an annimated cg type thing like the clone wars,just seems a better route to go these days,that poster just screams 90s cheese movie,what does the tank have to say???????????????

[delta]

you should add a pole

[Deckard]

personally..I think the movie never shoulda been made. End of line :>

[fred V]

you should add a pole

how do i go about doing that,im still a bit new at this??

[fred V]

personally..I think the movie never shoulda been made. End of line :>

i am behind you on that one a hundred and ten percent,bad,bad,bad idea!

[delta]

how do i go about doing that,im still a bit new at this??

Click the thingy that says 'Thread tools' by the thingy that says 'Rate this thread' and 'Search this thread' there should be an option there for a poll.

and yes they look lame IMO

[Deckard]

yes but if you put a pole here make sure to have a hot chick to twirl around on it...and make her dress up like Zarana while your at it. LOL

[fred V]

yes but if you put a pole here make sure to have a hot chick to twirl around on it...and make her dress up like Zarana while your at it. LOL

damn,youre to quick deck!

[fred V]

Click the thingy that says 'Thread tools' by the thingy that says 'Rate this thread' and 'Search this thread' there should be an option there for a poll.

and yes they look lame IMO

thanks delta.

[Monkeywrench]

posters look lame just like the movie is going be

[Deckard]

damn,youre to quick deck! gotta think on your feet derf :> heehee.

[copywrite]

I like the posters. Some of you guys are just pessimists. Nothing is going to make you happy, just stop looking at the new pics and info and you have nothing to worry about. Pretend the movie isn't even being made. Just stop trying to ruin the experience for the rest of us who are looking forward to it.

If it sucks, oh well. If it doesn't, sweet. It's not going to ruin my life or anything.

[Derek2783]

I said this once already but... where the #*@% is the Snake-Eyes poster? Raddical Rappin' Ripcord gets a poster but not SE?

[copywrite]

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/893/893281/gi-joe-rise-of-cobra-20080724004443829_640w.jpg

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

How about neither, as the script sucks either way.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/893/893281/gi-joe-rise-of-cobra-20080724004443829_640w.jpg

fracking fail.

[delta]

posters look lame just like the movie is going be
I would have worded it a little differently, but yeah I feel the same

I like the posters. Some of you guys are just pessimists. Nothing is going to make you happy, just stop looking at the new pics and info and you have nothing to worry about. Pretend the movie isn't even being made. Just stop trying to ruin the experience for the rest of us who are looking forward to it.

If it sucks, oh well. If it doesn't, sweet. It's not going to ruin my life or anything. I'm not really a pessimists cus' I don't like where this movie is going. I like the Birds, and the Bees. I like several things nonjoe, and Joe related.

However I do agree with you about the point you were making about ruining it for others. Some of us might ought to tone it down. I'll still share my opinion but try not to be so harsh.

After all Bad buzz on the internet effects the way movies are made.

After Batman and Robin came out it got such bad reviews in print, and on the internet that it stoped a sequel to that movie being made.
After that we got 'Batman begins' wich was a critical hit, and a box office hit too

[SportingViper]

fracking fail.

I like how they have him covering his gapping mouth.They must have realized it looked stupid .

[jaxscorpio]

I like the posters. Some of you guys are just pessimists. Nothing is going to make you happy, just stop looking at the new pics and info and you have nothing to worry about. Pretend the movie isn't even being made. Just stop trying to ruin the experience for the rest of us who are looking forward to it.

If it sucks, oh well. If it doesn't, sweet. It's not going to ruin my life or anything.

Not true. If the movie sucks, thousands of ugly people will have to find something to do to pass the time. Mark my words, they'll wind up hooking up with other ugly people and produce some of the ugliest children this planet has ever seen. Say what you will but there's nothing worse than standing in line behind and a hideous couple and being forced to look at their offspring. Bottom line, this movie better not suck.

[copywrite]

fracking fail.

?????????????

[gunslingercbr]

how can the poll answers be questions?

should it be cg? live action? I don't, should it? do you want me to say it should be one or the other? than why are you asking me to ask the question back?

nothing about this thread makes any sense.

[Dark 5cythe]

Whats wrong with the posters? these are just teaser posters anyway.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

?????????????

I'm refering to the rubber lips... Now Batman has something in common with GI Joe. Riddle: Why does Batman need nipples on his suit? Answer: The same reason a mute ninja needs a molded mouthpiece.

I like how they have him covering his gapping mouth.They must have realized it looked stupid .

Exactly.

[SnAkEyEz]

personally..I think the movie never shoulda been made. End of line :> most negative lame fanboy shit Ive ever heard... smh

[Derek2783]

Actually, based on what we know so far, I'm with Deckard...

[Deckard]

most negative lame fanboy shit Ive ever heard... smh

its not just "fanboy shit" . Its based on everything io have read seen and heard thus far is what my decision is based on. No sense in start slinging insults around and start with the name callin' pal.

[BOMBSHELLMIKE]

I actually like Sienna Millers poster. Shes pretty easy on my eyes

[fred V]

how can the poll answers be questions?

should it be cg? live action? I don't, should it? do you want me to say it should be one or the other? than why are you asking me to ask the question back?

nothing about this thread makes any sense.

its SIMPLE,I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT,IF IT WOULD LOOK BETTER AS A CG MOVIE OR LIVE ACTION ON THE NOTION THAT LIVE ACTION MIGHT JUST SLIGHT THE GI JOE EXPERIENCE FOR SOME,ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER, THATS IT!

[CynthiaCM]

personally..I think the movie never shoulda been made. End of line :>

Well, personally, I think the cartoon never should have been made... but it was. I simply don't bother watching it and I don't really consider it "GI Joe". But here's the deal. A lot of folks loved the cartoon and that's fine by me. There's something out there for everyone and this movie is just another "something" to add to the list.

[CynthiaCM]

posters look lame just like the movie is going be

Yeah, because, y'know, I'm sure you've already watched it and all.

Give me a break.

[CynthiaCM]

How about neither, as the script sucks either way.

Oh, you mean that script that has probably been altered quite a few times since you've seen it? Ughh!

[fred V]

people,people,i just posted this poll because i personally think that this movie is just poles apart from the cartoon,but in posting this i also just realized that gi joe existed before the cartoon,quite awhile actually,so maybe the people who were into gi joe pre cartoon think the cartoon was bad,anyway,i dont want this to turn negative,just putting a spin on it i guess,but crap,i thought i was a puriest,i wonder what the people who grew up with the dolls think of figures?

[Gung.Heaux]

these posters are looking pretty bad man,i really think they should have went with an annimated cg type thing like the clone wars,just seems a better route to go these days,that poster just screams 90s cheese movie,what does the tank have to say???????????????

its not a cartoon...why would you show with an animated cg type thing like the clone wars?

[Gung.Heaux]

personally..I think the movie never shoulda been made. End of line :>

lets hear a round of applause for the support of our favorite toy line's impending movie.

but i do have to hand to you deckard...you did say that its your personal thoughts.

[fred V]

its not a cartoon...why would you show with an animated cg type thing like the clone wars?

what do you mean by this?

[CynthiaCM]

people,people,i just posted this poll because i personally think that this movie is just poles apart from the cartoon,but in posting this i also just realized that gi joe existed before the cartoon,quite awhile actually,so maybe the people who were into gi joe pre cartoon think the cartoon was bad,anyway,i dont want this to turn negative,just putting a spin on it i guess,but crap,i thought i was a puriest,i wonder what the people who grew up with the dolls think of figures?

I actually started on my love of GI Joe with the comicbooks, followed quickly by the action figures. So, for me, it doesn't stretch back to the '60s or '70s.

[fred V]

I actually started on my love of GI Joe with the comicbooks, followed quickly by the action figures. So, for me, it doesn't stretch back to the '60s or '70s.

i totaly forgot the comic relm of this,stupid on my part,being i also read and love the comic side of gi joe,its to bad the early stuff is so hard to come by though.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

No, I don't think the posters look like crap, and I don't think it should be CG. We are getting an animated mini-series/movie called resolute, but that's not going to draw in the general public like a live action movie is. we need more fans so when I'm as old as you guys who were actually reading the comic since 1982, there's still a GI Joe franchise.

I think the posters look pretty cool and the movie is going to be great.

That said, I think they should have actually had some color on the Scarlett poster; she's not Scarlett if she doesn't have red hair.

[fred V]

No, I don't think the posters look like crap, and I don't think it should be CG. We are getting an animated mini-series/movie called resolute, but that's not going to draw in the general public like a live action movie is. we need more fans so when I'm as old as you guys who were actually reading the comic since 1982, there's still a GI Joe franchise.

I think the posters look pretty cool and the movie is going to be great.

That said, I think they should have actually had some color on the Scarlett poster; she's not Scarlett if she doesn't have red hair.
dude,some of the best comics came out in the early 90s?

[Echo7Solo]

I don't see a problem with the poster. I guess I look at it like this, the movie is for the new fans. Gasp........ yes there are others out there. There are children who will grow up with THEIR GI Joe just like WE did with ous. Oh, wait....... there was another GI Joe line before RAH? What? 12''?

Look people, There are some people out there who love spy troops, some who love VvV. Some who love RAH and go figure some who even love S6. There will be a whole group of people out there who will love this film. It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with. So no, I don't think the movie poster is lame. What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense. Oh yeah, and what is the old saying about judging a book by it's cover? I know when the first pics of the new batsuit came out people were crying like little girls with a skinned knee about it. Guess what, after seeing the movie, they didn't say a word!

[CynthiaCM]

I don't see a problem with the poster. I guess I look at it like this, the movie is for the new fans. Gasp........ yes there are others out there. There are children who will grow up with THEIR GI Joe just like WE did with ous. Oh, wait....... there was another GI Joe line before RAH? What? 12''?

Look people, There are some people out there who love spy troops, some who love VvV. Some who love RAH and go figure some who even love S6. There will be a whole group of people out there who will love this film. It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with. So no, I don't think the movie poster is lame. What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense. Oh yeah, and what is the old saying about judging a book by it's cover? I know when the first pics of the new batsuit came out people were crying like little girls with a skinned knee about it. Guess what, after seeing the movie, they didn't say a word!

That's possibly the best, most sensible post I've read in a long while. Well said.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

dude,some of the best comics came out in the early 90s?

Oh yeah, I was reading "current" issues of GI Joe Starring SNAKE-EYES and the Ninja Force and collecting back issues at flee markets and stuff.

But yeah, posters aren't bad.

[Deckard]

Well, personally, I think the cartoon never should have been made... but it was. I simply don't bother watching it and I don't really consider it "GI Joe". But here's the deal. A lot of folks loved the cartoon and that's fine by me. There's something out there for everyone and this movie is just another "something" to add to the list.

Well I think a vast majoprity of people are worried this will be the main staple of what will be gi joe for the future of the line and what not and alot of people are not happy about that. There are many who don;t want an international Joe team with messed up oirgins and especially don;t want the power suits. I mean would it have been so difficult just to alter a little bit instead of just making it this...appearant abomination? All this movie is doing is bilking the Name for whats it worth then tossing it to the wind in favor of the next big thing. IMO

[fred V]

I don't see a problem with the poster. I guess I look at it like this, the movie is for the new fans. Gasp........ yes there are others out there. There are children who will grow up with THEIR GI Joe just like WE did with ous. Oh, wait....... there was another GI Joe line before RAH? What? 12''?

Look people, There are some people out there who love spy troops, some who love VvV. Some who love RAH and go figure some who even love S6. There will be a whole group of people out there who will love this film. It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with. So no, I don't think the movie poster is lame. What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense. Oh yeah, and what is the old saying about judging a book by it's cover? I know when the first pics of the new batsuit came out people were crying like little girls with a skinned knee about it. Guess what, after seeing the movie, they didn't say a word!

i made it clear that i meant no ill will about this,thought it was a good issue?

[fred V]

Well I think a vast majoprity of people are worried this will be the main staple of what will be gi joe for the future of the line and what not and alot of people are not happy about that. There are many who don;t want an international Joe team with messed up oirgins and especially don;t want the power suits. I mean would it have been so difficult just to alter a little bit instead of just making it this...appearant abomination? All this movie is doing is bilking the Name for whats it worth then tossing it to the wind in favor of the next big thing. IMO

well said!

[Imperial_Serpentor]

I don't see a problem with the poster. I guess I look at it like this, the movie is for the new fans. Gasp........ yes there are others out there. There are children who will grow up with THEIR GI Joe just like WE did with ous. Oh, wait....... there was another GI Joe line before RAH? What? 12''?

Look people, There are some people out there who love spy troops, some who love VvV. Some who love RAH and go figure some who even love S6. There will be a whole group of people out there who will love this film. It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with. So no, I don't think the movie poster is lame. What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense. Oh yeah, and what is the old saying about judging a book by it's cover? I know when the first pics of the new batsuit came out people were crying like little girls with a skinned knee about it. Guess what, after seeing the movie, they didn't say a word!

hmm, I agree with everything you said except for me there's a big devide between pre-RAH and post-rah. To me the 12" figures have nothing to do with RAH (except for the 12" RAH figures of course). But VvV, Spy Troops, Sigma 6, GI Joe Vs Cobra etc etc etc are all iterations of the same legend. Aside from the fact that Colton and Jayne were made into RAH characters, I consider the 12" line a totally different fandom (nothing wrong with it, it's just different).

For me there is the GI Joe Vs Cobra/RAH mythos which includes (RAH, Marvel comic, Devils Due Comic, Sunbow, Dic, Sgt Savage, Spy Troops, VvV, Sigma 6, Resolute and this new movie)

The Extreme mythos (just Extreme and the Darkhorse comic)

and the 12" action/adventure team mythos.

And each is just fine; if you like any version of them, that's great... That is YOUR GI Joe, but none of them were created especially for you and you alone; so let those who enjoy the different ones enjoy them.


So yeah totally agree with Echo on this one.

[fred V]

hmm, I agree with everything you said except for me there's a big devide between pre-RAH and post-rah. To me the 12" figures have nothing to do with RAH (except for the 12" RAH figures of course). But VvV, Spy Troops, Sigma 6, GI Joe Vs Cobra etc etc etc are all iterations of the same legend. Aside from the fact that Colton and Jayne were made into RAH characters, I consider the 12" line a totally different fandom (nothing wrong with it, it's just different).

For me there is the GI Joe Vs Cobra/RAH mythos which includes (RAH, Marvel comic, Devils Due Comic, Sunbow, Dic, Sgt Savage, Spy Troops, VvV, Sigma 6, Resolute and this new movie)

The Extreme mythos (just Extreme and the Darkhorse comic)

and the 12" action/adventure team mythos.

And each is just fine; if you like any version of them, that's great... That is YOUR GI Joe, but none of them were created especially for you and you alone; so let those who enjoy the different ones enjoy them.


So yeah totally agree with Echo on this one.

this is not about divisions,just opinons on the movie.

[fred V]

here is a simple yet great example of what can happen to a great comicbook legend when the wrong people get ahold of it and make a so called movie,FANTASTIC FOUR,1 and 2,i mean look what they did with dr.doom,not even close!on the other hand,when its done right,the 2 new batman movies were good representations of the originals.

[fred V]

its DR.DOOM for gods sake,how can they get away with that,next thing you know it will be,its cobra commander for gods sake,how could they get away with that!

[Deckard]

well one thing when talking about the marvel films....they are for the most part based on their ultimate comic book counter parts with SOME elements of the original stories thrown in. Now one thing i think coulda made the joe movie more tolerable is to have Julian Mcmahon (despite doom being crappy looking i thought he played the part very well, and he's also one of my fave actors) would have made a spectacualrly better cc then that little goony dillhole JG Levitt.

[crock master]

i think all the hype is lame. they should just make the movie about cobra. then towards the end cobra gets a kickdoor by a few joes (swat style) then they should bring the joes in during the sequal

[fred V]

well one thing when talking about the marvel films....they are for the most part based on their ultimate comic book counter parts with SOME elements of the original stories thrown in. Now one thing i think coulda made the joe movie more tolerable is to have Julian Mcmahon (despite doom being crappy looking i thought he played the part very well, and he's also one of my fave actors) would have made a spectacualrly better cc then that little goony dillhole JG Levitt.

i agree 100%,mcmahon is an awsome actor and played a great dr.doom,it was the plot line and script that killed it,and he would indeed make a great commander.

[fred V]

i think all the hype is lame. they should just make the movie about cobra. they should bring the joes in during the sequal

that might really have worked,great idea.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

i agree 100%,mcmahon is an awsome actor and played a great dr.doom,it was the plot line and script that killed it,and he would indeed make a great commander.

Well the earlier unreleased Fanstic Four did Doctor Doom right (armor instead of metal skin, ruler of Latveria no cosmic radiation), but was still awful. I agree though ruining Doctor Doom, ruined the movie for me, I didn't even see the second one.

Now that Marvel Flims has direct control over their own projects I think it would be done better if they revisited it.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

this is not about divisions,just opinons on the movie.

Chill, it was just a tangential comment, brought about because of Echo's post... nor was it totally off topic.

[fred V]

Well the earlier unreleased Fanstic Four did Doctor Doom right (armor instead of metal skin, ruler of Latveria no cosmic radiation), but was still awful. I agree though ruining Doctor Doom, ruined the movie for me, I didn't even see the second one.

Now that Marvel Flims has direct control over their own projects I think it would be done better if they revisited it.

i agree,and that is kinda my point about this movie,just let a sleeping dog lay.

[fred V]

Chill, it was just a tangential comment, brought about because of Echo's post... nor was it totally off topic.im not jumping on you,i meant no ill will by it,just trying to keep the mods from thinking im starting trouble again,lol.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

Oh, you mean that script that has probably been altered quite a few times since you've seen it? Ughh!

Really... You're probably right... Wait, Ripcord is still hitting on Scarlett? Duke and Baroness are still an item? Yeah, it's SSSOOOO different.

I stated my opinion, and you're free to state yours. But don't go around bashing other people for said opinion.

Sorry OP. I realize your th\read is kinda getting mean, and I apologize for my own actions.

[fred V]

Really... You're probably right... Wait, Ripcord is still hitting on Scarlett? Duke and Baroness are still an item? Yeah, it's SSSOOOO different.

I stated my opinion, and you're free to state yours. But don't go around bashing other people for said opinion.

Sorry OP. I realize your th\read is kinda getting mean, and I apologize for my own actions.its understandable,everyone has their own views,i just want this to be an opinion post,its all good.

[fred V]

Chill, it was just a tangential comment, brought about because of Echo's post... nor was it totally off topic.

if you are still on man,its just hard to know intent through typing,but no hard feelings,i was really saying that as a blanket statement about the thread thats all,we cool?

[SportingViper]

I don't see a problem with the poster. I guess I look at it like this, the movie is for the new fans. Gasp........ yes there are others out there. There are children who will grow up with THEIR GI Joe just like WE did with ous. Oh, wait....... there was another GI Joe line before RAH? What? 12''?

Look people, There are some people out there who love spy troops, some who love VvV. Some who love RAH and go figure some who even love S6. There will be a whole group of people out there who will love this film. It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with. So no, I don't think the movie poster is lame. What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense. Oh yeah, and what is the old saying about judging a book by it's cover? I know when the first pics of the new batsuit came out people were crying like little girls with a skinned knee about it. Guess what, after seeing the movie, they didn't say a word!

Not according to Brian Goldner CEO of Hasbro and Joe movie producer in an interview in march 08:

But what about the movie's spirit? Should fans expect to see a live-action version of the cartoon, an update on the Marvel comics, or something else entirely? According to Goldner, Sommers and crew want to take filmgoers back a couple of decades:

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."



So let the SPIN begin.

[Deckard]

wow that guy really must have never seen an episode of gi joe or read a joe comic in his entire life. Otherwise he'd probably smack himself for that statement :>

[SportingViper]

Where's Copywrite?

[Viper6]

you should add a pole

...quit disn joe and be glad we get this shit at all!

[copywrite]

Where's Copywrite?

I don't get what you're trying to prove with that quote. To me, this is hitting the sweet spot because I'm seeing my favorite characters come to life after 25 years. My 10 year old brother can't wait to see the movie also, but he grew up watching VvV and Sigma 6, so it applies to him also. I really don't care what you think of the movie, but the fact that you never give a logical argument is what annoys me about you. All I hear from you is stupid crap like "l0lz sn4ke eyez is french, we we."

[SportingViper]

i don't get what you're trying to prove with that quote. To me, this is hitting the sweet spot because i'm seeing my favorite characters come to life after 25 years. My 10 year old brother can't wait to see the movie also, but he grew up watching vvv and sigma 6, so it applies to him also. I really don't care what you think of the movie, but the fact that you never give a logical argument is what annoys me about you. All i hear from you is stupid crap like "l0lz sn4ke eyez is french, we we."

spin

[copywrite]

nice one slick

[Shin Densetsu]

I don't get what you're trying to prove with that quote.
I do, he just proved Echo7Solo right.

[SportingViper]

I do, he just proved Echo7Solo right.

LOL...more spin

[Imperial_Serpentor]

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."

Okay... what's wrong with this statement? That's exactly what I, as a fan would want to hear. That they're focusing on bringing the greatest era of GI Joe comics to life (in spirit at least)...

Besides Larry Hama told AICN that the film writers nailed the characters right? Destro says the script is awesome.... If Destro and Larry Hama say it's awesome that's more then enough reason to give it a chance.

[delta]

Is that directed at me, or Fred V? Either way you need to tone that sh!t down man. Nobody ran over your puppt o.k. Chill. Count backward from 10 slowly, and chill

10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...Now do we feel better? :)

[Shin Densetsu]

If Destro and Larry Hama say it's awesome that's more then enough reason to give it a chance.
That and the only 2 people I have ever believed with regards to movie information/leaks are DESTRO & El Miyambe.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

That and the only 2 people I have ever believed with regards to movie information/leaks are DESTRO & El Miyambe.

Well... I think we can trust that Larry Hama at least is making an informed opinion too. LOL.

I don't even trust the Hasbro website, though... which if you'll check still lists Scarlett and Snake-eyes as "cobras" under the movie section.

[Shin Densetsu]

Well... I think we can trust that Larry Hama at least is making an informed opinion too. LOL.
I meant people from the fandom that aren't working on the movie but have credible information.

[Imperial_Serpentor]

I meant people from the fandom that aren't working on the movie but have credible information.

I know Shin; I was just joking.

[Dark 5cythe]

This is like all the people who just hate anything that George Lucas does because "it isnt how they pictured HIS universe that HE invented".

Why not show support of the movie that is gonna give us toys? This shit is crazy. This is worse than the Transformers Sites. At least they had a reason to gripe with completely redone characters. But the story was still good, the action was good and the toys were good!

We are getting characters that mostly(stupid ripcord) look like they should. The movie isnt out yet. It may have good action and story in it too. But you guys gotta give it a chance. To judge something before you have seen it........thats some hardcore prejudice AND trolling.

If I ran around and said your favorite video game that I never played sucked, what would you guys think? I'd be a pretty damn big douche.

It costs you guys nothing to just give it a chance.

[Crimson Rage]

These are teaser posters to 'introduce' the characters so I don't see how they can be 'lame'. If someone does think that then I reckon that once again they're expressing their dislike or the costumes or casting, not the posters themselves.

[Echo7Solo]

LOL...more spin

I think you should step away from the computer and think for a minute. The only person spinning here is you and you are just going around and around about nothing. But for the record (it spins too) I think you should also quit trying to bait people into a fight. The only entitlement you have here is to your opinion. Your case has been made and rejected by others who have an open view and free thought. Call it spin all you want but the bottom line is just because it isn't the GI Joe YOU wanted doesn't mean it isn't the one others will want it too. I would love to see the GI Joe that I want but I would also like to see something fresh. Regardless I'm going to wait until I see the movie before I judge it and send it to the chair.

This is like all the people who just hate anything that George Lucas does because "it isnt how they pictured HIS universe that HE invented".

Why not show support of the movie that is gonna give us toys? This shit is crazy. This is worse than the Transformers Sites. At least they had a reason to gripe with completely redone characters. But the story was still good, the action was good and the toys were good!

We are getting characters that mostly(stupid ripcord) look like they should. The movie isnt out yet. It may have good action and story in it too. But you guys gotta give it a chance. To judge something before you have seen it........thats some hardcore prejudice AND trolling.

If I ran around and said your favorite video game that I never played sucked, what would you guys think? I'd be a pretty damn big douche.

It costs you guys nothing to just give it a chance.

not the way I would have put it but pretty much....... yeah.

These are teaser posters to 'introduce' the characters so I don't see how they can be 'lame'. If someone does think that then I reckon that once again they're expressing their dislike or the costumes or casting, not the posters themselves.

I think it is more down the line of too much time and nerd anger on their hands and not willing to give anything a chance unless it was plucked directly from their mind and produced.

[Lantern_Lad]

This is like all the people who just hate anything that George Lucas does because "it isnt how they pictured HIS universe that HE invented".

I agree with just about everything you said here except this statement... I think George Lucas is a horrible director, and it showed in the prequels. A FANTASTIC visionary... but a horrible director.

Otherwise, spot on comment!

[SportingViper]

I think you should step away from the computer and think for a minute. The only person spinning here is you and you are just going around and around about nothing. But for the record (it spins too) I think you should also quit trying to bait people into a fight. The only entitlement you have here is to your opinion. Your case has been made and rejected by others who have an open view and free thought. Call it spin all you want but the bottom line is just because it isn't the GI Joe YOU wanted doesn't mean it isn't the one others will want it too. I would love to see the GI Joe that I want but I would also like to see something fresh. Regardless I'm going to wait until I see the movie before I judge it and send it to the chair.

I like the fact you didn't even respond to the Brian Goldner interview."Our focus are the 155 Marvel comics".

Yes I bait people in to a fight,right! Like no one here has posted their opinion about not liking something about the movie and been ganged up on.Right Paramounties are sweet little open minded angels.

[fred V]

ATTENTION MODERATORS!feel free to end this post if you like,with all the crap i went through with being negative i see this is turning into the same thing,i was honestly just trying to get peoples opinnions but now its turning ugly,one of the tank members took offense to a comment i made in whitch i was completely neutral on,so if its pissing people off just end it,this is pure damage control on my part!

[Shin Densetsu]

Yes I bait people in to a fight,right! Like no one here has posted their opinion about not liking something about the movie and been ganged up on.Right Paramounties are sweet little open minded angels.
See the thing with you is that everyone is either a tool, or on your side condemning the movie. If someone is open minded, you label them a paramountie. Then if someone disagrees with you, you point out how some of your buddies were apparently insulted, and take grave offense to being called a moron on the internet(wait..wait...oh yea I forgot, MEN are sensitive on the internet).

There are people who are willing to see the movie before saying it sucks. You are one of those ganging up on those people. You are not open minded, the only thing you have done since you have joined is complained, bitched, yet you have not offered how you would make the movie, and how your version is so much better, and how you would do a better job than Larry Hama consulting. Oh sure you never said these things but its implied, no matter how much you will deny it. There have been many members here that have done a much better job at voicing their complaints in an intelligent manner, without resorting to fanboy rants and pointing fingers.

The funny thing is you're probably going to be the first in line to watch the movie, and LOVE IT.

[fred V]

See the thing with you is that everyone is either a tool, or on your side condemning the movie. If someone is open minded, you label them a paramountie. Then if someone disagrees with you, you point out how some of your buddies were apparently insulted, and take grave offense to being called a moron on the internet(wait..wait...oh yea I forgot, MEN are sensitive on the internet).

There are people who are willing to see the movie before saying it sucks. You are one of those ganging up on those people. You are not open minded, the only thing you have done since you have joined is complained, bitched, yet you have not offered how you would make the movie, and how your version is so much better, and how you would do a better job than Larry Hama consulting. Oh sure you never said these things but its implied, no matter how much you will deny it. There have been many members here that have done a much better job at voicing their complaints in an intelligent manner, without resorting to fanboy rants and pointing fingers.

The funny thing is you're probably going to be the first in line to watch the movie, and LOVE IT.
this is what i mean,but its up to you guys now(mods)to do what u want,i just dont want flagged again,i enjoy this site to much.

[SportingViper]

Like I've never said that they should stick to the source material to make it better right.Oh I did.

[Echo7Solo]

I agree with just about everything you said here except this statement... I think George Lucas is a horrible director, and it showed in the prequels. A FANTASTIC visionary... but a horrible director.

Otherwise, spot on comment!

ANH nominated for an academy award and don't forget about American Graffiti. Both great films.

[SNAKE EYES]

I have a question for everyone. If we were shown the pictures we have seen so far from the movie and had no knowledge of what Joe and Cobra characters were in the script how many of us could correctly identify all the characters?

I doubt anybody would get them all correct and yes this doesn't mean the movie will suck because all the characters are not exactly like their comic, cartoon or figure look. I just wish they would have tried to get some more classic looks for some of the characters and Duke is the prime example he is one of the main character/images of G.I. Joe yet his movie counterpart looks nothing like the character/image of Duke and they might throw some classic looking costumes in the movie, but with the brown hair and goatee it still doesn't look like Duke to me maybe it does to others.

I still have hope this movie will be good and I will be there on opening night, but when you can't get the look of some key characters right to begin with it is going to be hard to see how they will get the movie right.

Here's to hoping the movie will be great :)

[Deckard]

All of my discontent for this movie is not based off what others think, like jumping on the band wagon, but based on what i have seen of those being cast in the film (the actors and actresses, who is directing, the footage being shot that has been show,(yes it could be false footage who knows, the items shown officially at the cons, and the seemingly general lack of enthusiasm the interviewed actors really seem to have for working on this film. All of that is why I so far am not happy with what i have seen. Might this movie have cool action...sure. Might it have a decent story..perhaps. But the one thing about GI JOE was its story was pretty basic...goo soldiers fighting evil terrorists. The Majority of the plot twists and what not came from 3 things...what the bad guys were doing to take over the world and the histories of the individual charcaters relating to their jobs and organizations and how it affected the first thing. Thos histories really became essential to the development of the Joe story universe. And now to hear(for what seems to be the most part confirmed) that those histories and characters have been so drastically altered, does nto fill me with hope that the movie will be anything but a cookie cutter action film. again Just my Opinion about it.

[Shin Densetsu]

I have a question for everyone. If we were shown the pictures we have seen so far from the movie and had no knowledge of what Joe and Cobra characters where in the script how many of us could correctly identify all the characters?
Snake Eyes, Scarlett, Storm Shadow, and Baroness, the others, I wouldn't know at first.

[Golobulous]

And you don't have to totally disregard bio's and looks of well established iconic characters in order to make something "FRESH" and as for this not being "MY" gi joe or "ANYBODY'S" idea of joe as the above poster states, who from any generation can identify with what we have seen of these characters, they are something entirely "different" not necessarily "BAD" or "GOOD". but different is a HUGE RISK, and again you can point to other COMIC BOOK related movies, like BATMAN, did they need to give the joker a power suit or have the batman with ACTUAL BAT WINGS GROWING OUT OF HIS BACK IN ORDER TO MAKE HIM "FRESH" just my take.

i plan on seeing the movie, and i am going with an open mind, but i felt this way about transformers before i saw it. i thought the bot designs were poop, but i love the transformers movie, maybee i will love this as well

[delta]

ANH nominated for an academy award and don't forget about American Graffiti. Both great films.

Personaly not a big Star Wars guy *throw stones as you may*, But American Graffiti was great, I'll give you that. However 'Thriller', and 'Off the wall were great albums', but 'BAD' was (as the name implies) Bad!!! The Beatles were a great band, but Wings eh...not so much.

Some of these guys let ego, or power, or control get the best of them, and they can't relate to us (the little guys) no more. It's sad, and it happens to the best of them.

[Echo7Solo]

I like the fact you didn't even respond to the Brian Goldner interview."Our focus are the 155 Marvel comics".

Yes I bait people in to a fight,right! Like no one here has posted their opinion about not liking something about the movie and been ganged up on.Right Paramounties are sweet little open minded angels. I'll get to this in a second

this is what i mean,but its up to you guys now(mods)to do what u want,i just dont want flagged again,i enjoy this site to much.
oh bigger fish to fry right now
Like I've never said that they should stick to the source material to make it better right.Oh I did. now to you sportingviper. You admited to baiting people into a fight here. Now you are doing so with not just a mod but a supermod as well. The
wording of your posts suggest that you are wanting to start trouble. Take a step back from your computer after you read this and think real hard about what you are about to read. Do you think what you are doing will be tolerated much longer?

Now on to my reply. Other than the fact that some of the visuals are different how do you know it isn't based on the first 155 issues? Sure some things are changed like nationality of some of the Joe team. But guess what else is different. The world we lived in 25 years ago as opposed to the world we live in today. Lets face it in a post 9/11 world the rules of the military have changed. Do you want the film set in the 80's? If so then we would have something to agree upon. But the truth is that would not appeal to the next generation of Joe fans who will carry on the legacy of the franchise.

Think about this. How old were you when you discovered GI Joe? Have you considered the people who were your age now at that time thinking that your little comics and figures that were a third the size of THEIR GI Joe was an abomination? How is RAH the true spirit of GI Joe when it was a REVAMP of the franchise? The story has changed to fit the world we live in today just as GI Joe changed from the 12'' to the RAH to fit the world of the 80's and changed to VvV and S6 to fit their time as well. The movie will reflect the times. I would recommend that you get out of the past and step into today's world. If you want to relive what you grew up with then read the comics. If you want to open your mind and give this film a chance then pay the price for your ticket. If you want to continue your bitching then add something fresh. Otherwise put an end to your regurgitated babble and stop trying to bait other members into a fight.

[Deckard]

Well echo I agree that things must change, but I mean they needn't change so drastically. In the punisher movie..his origin was in desert storm not vietnam...would that have been that much of a stretch to have SE, SS, and stalker having that kinda history instead of making SS a korean, SE a frenchman and not even having stalker? And the whole thing with baroness and DUKE engaged then him leaving her? and ripcord a black guy? was doc or stalker not an available option? and breaker? Theres just too many changes for the sake of political correct BS for me to be able to accept this as a GI JOE inception.

[Echo7Solo]

Well echo I agree that things must change, but I mean they needn't change so drastically. In the punisher movie..his origin was in desert storm not vietnam...would that have been that much of a stretch to have SE, SS, and stalker having that kinda history instead of making SS a korean, SE a frenchman and not even having stalker? And the whole thing with baroness and DUKE engaged then him leaving her? and ripcord a black guy? was doc or stalker not an available option? and breaker? Theres just too many changes for the sake of political correct BS for me to be able to accept this as a GI JOE inception.

one of the two marines who found the two officers trapped in the WTC was black. Yet both were white in the movie. Tombstone (one of the greatest westerns of our time) was filled with historical inaccuracies from both Morgan and Virgil being shot in the same night to the way Ringo was killed. What about the other two Earp brothers? Oh I know, what about Band of Brothers. Great mini series that some of the men who were there said was not completely right. I'm a huge fan of Deadwood but quite a bit of that was pure crap and completely untrue. Do the things that were changed make any of these less interesting or entertaining? I don't think so.

[fred V]

echo7solo,what is that supposed to mean,bigger fish?

[delta]

It might not be YOUR GI Joe but guess what......... it isn't YOURS to start with.

Well it isin't Steven Sommers either. Sure it is now, but he is just a hired hand paid to do with it what he will. Sure Hasbro has it's say as well, but Hasbro didin't even know how much we loved Optimus Prime when they killed him off in the Transformers movie.

An archaeologist may find Dinosaur bones, and they may belong to Him or Her after they find them, but they aren't HIS they belong to the dinosaur.


What I find lame is people who's sense of entitlement is greater than their common sense.

True GI.Joe is not OURS, but the difference between us, and Hasbro is we envest money in GI.Joe, and they make Money from GI.Joe.

Like a drug dealer.

The Drug user enjoys, and "loves" the drug.
The dealer loves the money, and in a way loves the user too.
But the dealer has to keep the user happy inorder to get further monies.

When we were kids we didin't have money. Our parents had money. Hasbro was after our parents money.
Now we are adults, and some of us have money, and some of us don't. Some of us have kids, and some of us don't.
The market is too divided for Hasbro to make as much money as they would like.

So now they are targeting new kids, and their parents (a kid can't go to the movies by themselves now can they).

We (the old target audience) are getting retired like an old race horse. I understand and accept it.

Sure we my get an bone thrown here, and there (slideshow collectables, 25th line) and I'm fine with that.
I'll enjoy my retirement.

I realize most adults don't play with toys anymore. So I accept that I/We are in the minority, and that toys, and toy movies are , and ought to be for kids.

I won't like the new movie, but I didin't like Hulk, Iron Man, or any other kid/toy movie that came out recently either.

[Echo7Solo]

I won't like the new movie, but I didin't like Hulk, Iron Man, or any other kid/toy movie that came out recently either.


well at least you are going into this with an open mind. Your personal taste is just that, yours. Just as your opinion is yours. It has been made. That simple. Look, I'm open to a good debate but what I'm not open to is bashing from people who approach things with a closed mind. It is very much possible that the movie may be the worst thing to ever be placed on film. It could also be the most enjoyable film ever made. I don't know. All I know is what pics I've seen and what little bit of rumors I've read. I don't see where that is enough to make a judgement on the total film as of yet.

[fred V]

hello echo,answer please.

[slim19722]

I have a question for everyone. If we were shown the pictures we have seen so far from the movie and had no knowledge of what Joe and Cobra characters where in the script how many of us could correctly identify all the characters?


I would've guessed most, with the exception of Rip Cord and Cover Girl.

Heavy Duty-could've went with HD or Roadblock, but I woulda said HD, cuz of his guns.

Breaker-coulda been Mainframe as well, but with his gear, I would guessed MF or Breaker.

Destro-Would've said Destro or Cobra Commander

Storm Shadow-obvious, Asian guy in white

Hawk-obvious, older and the bomber jacket

Snake Eyes-obvious

Scarlett-obvious w/the red hair

Baroness-obvious w/the leather, black hair, and glasses

"Smiling Skulls"-obviously Cobra troops based off the DTC Range Viper or ARAH Rock Viper

Rip Cord-woulda said Stalker

Cover Girl-just woulda said she was a Joe team member.

[delta]

Storm Shadow-obvious, Asian guy in white.

So this is storm shadow too?

[slim19722]

So this is storm shadow too?


If he woulda been cast in the Joe movie, yep.

[Deckard]

no no he woulda been the soft n saggy master LOL

[slim19722]

Forgot he was in the cast also. Hard Master would be a better choice, althoug we haven't seen a pic of the HM in movie form.

[Derek2783]

Oh, you mean that script that has probably been altered quite a few times since you've seen it? Ughh!

The problem is, the basic script sucks. The characters are wrong, the storyline is illogical, they made completely rediculous changes that seem only to alienate people (IE I've not heard ANYONE say they liked that SE is French)...

Even with alterations, the script at its core still blows, so even if they made alterations, it would still suck.

You can mold a piece of poo into the shape of a diamond, but in the end, it's still a piece of poo.

[fred V]

echo7solo,what is that supposed to mean,bigger fish?

forget it echo,i was probably reading too much into it.

[delta]

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[delta]

Scarlett-obvious w/the red hair


http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/dansartain/Ronald_McDonald.jpg

[slim19722]

He isn't part of the movie cast.

[slim19722]

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/dansartain/Ronald_McDonald.jpg

He isn't part of the movie cast.

[delta]

He isn't part of the movie cast.Just having fun:)

[Deckard]

sadly they are not but it might have made the movie a little better.

[SportingViper]

I'll get to this in a second


oh bigger fish to fry right now
now to you sportingviper. You admited to baiting people into a fight here. Now you are doing so with not just a mod but a supermod as well. The
wording of your posts suggest that you are wanting to start trouble. Take a step back from your computer after you read this and think real hard about what you are about to read. Do you think what you are doing will be tolerated much longer?

Now on to my reply. Other than the fact that some of the visuals are different how do you know it isn't based on the first 155 issues? Sure some things are changed like nationality of some of the Joe team. But guess what else is different. The world we lived in 25 years ago as opposed to the world we live in today. Lets face it in a post 9/11 world the rules of the military have changed. Do you want the film set in the 80's? If so then we would have something to agree upon. But the truth is that would not appeal to the next generation of Joe fans who will carry on the legacy of the franchise.

Think about this. How old were you when you discovered GI Joe? Have you considered the people who were your age now at that time thinking that your little comics and figures that were a third the size of THEIR GI Joe was an abomination? How is RAH the true spirit of GI Joe when it was a REVAMP of the franchise? The story has changed to fit the world we live in today just as GI Joe changed from the 12'' to the RAH to fit the world of the 80's and changed to VvV and S6 to fit their time as well. The movie will reflect the times. I would recommend that you get out of the past and step into today's world. If you want to relive what you grew up with then read the comics. If you want to open your mind and give this film a chance then pay the price for your ticket. If you want to continue your bitching then add something fresh. Otherwise put an end to your regurgitated babble and stop trying to bait other members into a fight.

First, I didn't admit to baiting anyone.I said "Yes, I bait people in to a fight,RIGHT!" like in yeah right.
Second, I don't see you singleling out people who mock posters here who disagree with certain aspects of the movie.
Third,look at my posts I've said postive things about the movie.Still don't like the over all direction of the movie but some things are ok.But character developement(according to rumors) on some are way off source material.
Forth, what special military group in the world is made up of international forces? G.I.Joe is a delta force and I didn't hear that after 9/11 it suddenly turned international.
Fifth,When the CEO of Hasbro and producer of the Joe movie says
"the focus of the movie are the 155 issues of the comic.Most rational people think American Snakes-Eyes who doesn't talk,etc.So when people like yourself say it's not based on any particular incarnation of Joe thats when I whip out the Goldner interview...I didn't make up the interview!
Sixth, I didn't even realize you are a super-mod. But I hope you come to my rescue next I and other people (movie whiners) get badgered.

[slim19722]

Just having fun:)

Oh, it's all fun. At least ya didn't use Clifford the Big Red Dog as an example.

[Echo7Solo]

First, I didn't admit to baiting anyone.I said "Yes, I bait people in to a fight,RIGHT!" like in yeah right.
Second, I don't see you singleling out people who mock posters here who disagree with certain aspects of the movie.
Third,look at my posts I've said postive things about the movie.Still don't like the over all direction of the movie but some things are ok.But character developement(according to rumors) on some are way off source material.
Forth, what special military group in the world is made up of international forces? G.I.Joe is a delta force and I didn't hear that after 9/11 it suddenly turned international.
Fifth,When the CEO of Hasbro and producer of the Joe movie says
"the focus of the movie are the 155 issues of the comic.Most rational people think American Snakes-Eyes who doesn't talk,etc.So when people like yourself say it's not based on any particular incarnation of Joe thats when I whip out the Goldner interview...I didn't make up the interview!
Sixth, I didn't even realize you are a super-mod. But I hope you come to my rescue next I and other people (movie whiners) get badgered.

first this isn't open to public debate. bait another member into a fight and you get an infraction. bottom line.

second I am even as to who I warn and who I don't.

third your opinion is noted. Your constant baiting is not tolerated.

fourth UN? Besides this is fictional...... you do know that means it isn't real... this is meant to be fun. Biased off a cartoon/comic.

fifth to quote the interview more
" 'G.I. Joe' has just gone into filming this past week, with a great cast and a tremendous story all based on the comics and the animation," Goldner said. "I think fans, and fans to come, will really love what we're doing."


"But the story, just like in the comic books, was a story that took us all over the world," he continued. "That's all we were really trying to get at. And everything else that fans have heard, about the early ideas or contemplations, that's really gone. ... We're talking about a story that's going to take us all over the world, from the desert to under the water, to the mountains to cities. ... Clearly, the American military is involved, as are other forces. But at the end of the day, the force that matters is the G.I. Joe force, and the Pit, and all the things that relate to that."

sixth for the record Shin is a super-mod. That means he has the ability to do more than the normal mod. Regardless if I agree or disagree with somebody, anybody I will stand up for them if they are being baited or badgered by another member.

Last and just for fun if you wish to continue this discussion in private about the way you have baited other members then feel free to PM me, it will not be discussed in public anymore. This is your very last warning.

[Shin Densetsu]

Sure Hasbro has it's say as well, but Hasbro didin't even know how much we loved Optimus Prime when they killed him off in the Transformers movie.

Thats not even fair you are comparing what they did 22 years ago, they learned their lesson right away, which is why Duke did not die in the movie during the following year, like he was supposed to.

[Deckard]

personally I think duke getting cacked off would been awesome. Especially since maybe then Falcon mighta got more exposure. :>

[Derek2783]

This is worse than the Transformers Sites. At least they had a reason to gripe with completely redone characters.

Frankly a French ninja orphan, a Korean ninja clan, an evil Dr. who becomes the head of Cobra, Duke's ex-fiance going berzerk... those are all sound like redone characters to me.

To judge something before you have seen it........thats some hardcore prejudice AND trolling.

Not necessarily. We've seen the script, I think it's fine to make some legitimate judgments from it, two of them being I don't like the character background stories or the plot of the film. To say that that's hardcore prejudice seems... prejudice. And expressing a negative opinion based on a script hardly amounts trolling.


It costs you guys nothing to just give it a chance.

It also costs nothing to say "this movie is going to suck". I'll still go spend my $10, and hope to goodness its ok. But from the costumes, script, and everything else confirmed, it looks more like Starship Troopers than my beloved GI Joe.

[delta]

Oh, it's all fun. At least ya didn't use Clifford the Big Red Dog as an example.
hehe!!

[Deckard]

at least starship troopers had nudity and some cuties in it. Maybe if cover girl scarlett and baroness had shown flesh it mighta been worth the price. but evertthing i have seen read and heard about this movie sounds like the tidy bowl man wins again. KA-swoosh!!!!

[delta]

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[SportingViper]

[QUOTE=Echo7Solo;230877]
fourth UN? Besides this is fictional...... you do know that means it isn't real... this is meant to be fun. Biased off a cartoon/comic.QUOTE]

The UN!! come on you can do better then that? They dont fight evil ,they sit there and watch!!

And the source material was also fictional and fun,they should have stuck to that.

[SportingViper]

Sorry ment nothing political by that. My bad I'll watch it next time.

what the heck did you post?....pm me if you have to.

[delta]

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[Lantern_Lad]

ANH nominated for an academy award and don't forget about American Graffiti. Both great films.

Both over 30 years ago...

His time is way past.

You saw the prequels, right? Great actors... horrible movies.

[delta]

You saw the prequels, right? Great actors... horrible movies.

You mean old goober lips skywalker?

Yeah I saw em' thumbs down. But then again I'm a Star Trek man:)

[Echo7Solo]

Both over 30 years ago...

His time is way past.

You saw the prequels, right? Great actors... horrible movies.

you do have a right to your opinion. As a Star Wars fan there are some things I very much liked, some things I didn't. But was it writing or directing that was the problem you had with it? I'd say the biggest mistake he made with the movies was the fans. He didn't listen in the first then did more so in the second and too much in the third. He should have stuck with his vision and left the fans out of it OR listened to them completely from the start. Regardless it was a no win for him. We as fans wrote, directed, cast and produced the film in our heads years ago. This is how we get back on the topic of GI Joe. Same with the Joe movie. We have a vision of what it "should be" and won't accept anything less.

I learned a lesson with Transformers that I'm not going to forget with GI Joe. When I saw Prime I was pissed. He looked like Hot Rod's love child. The more I read the more I hated it. How could Ironhide have a perfect paint job when in truck mode but be all scuffed up in robot mode? Bumblebee wasn't a bug? WTF? Megatron wasn't a gun? Devastator was a tank? Who is Sam and where is Spike? But I went to see it, got the popcorn, drink...... even some candy. When I heard Prime's voice I got chills. Regardless of what he looked like, he was Prime. Megatron was very much evil as Megatron should be. Was it the Transformers I wanted..... no, not close. Was it fun for two hours? Oh yeah. Even with the WTF parts I still had a good time with the movie. I laughed when I should have, I was on the edge of my seat at other parts. There were even some "oh that was pretty F'n cool" moments. Now I regret going into the movie with a closed mind. So I'm not going to do the same with GI Joe. Will it be what I want to see? No. I want is set in the 80's with the grit of the comic and the fun of the cartoon. I can go down a list of things I'd like to see changed. Some you will agree with, some you won't. But regardless I'm going to see the movie before I judge it.

[Echo7Solo]

You mean old goober lips skywalker?

Yeah I saw em' thumbs down. But then again I'm a Star Trek man:)

have I ever told you that on a personal level I hate you more than anybody else on the tank? LOL.... just kidding. I liked TNG and DS9. As lame as the classic was it does have it's place. The rest were just..... well........ pure crap. I'd give voyager two thumbs down but I just don't think that would cut it.

[Derek2783]

...But regardless I'm going to see the movie before I judge it.

Didn't you already pass judgement when you said:

Will it be what I want to see? No..

I'm not trying to bait you or anything, but I think we "haters" have a legitimate argument. I will go see it too, and will probably enjoy parts. But it won't be the movie I want to see. See?

...plus I figure if I go into it with the lowest of low expectations, I can't possibly be disappointed right? Nowhere to go but up? That's how the Transformers experience was - low expectations were met and just a little exceeded. :D

[Echo7Solo]

Didn't you already pass judgement when you said:



I'm not trying to bait you or anything, but I think we "haters" have a legitimate argument. I will go see it too, and will probably enjoy parts. But it won't be the movie I want to see. See?

...plus I figure if I go into it with the lowest of low expectations, I can't possibly be disappointed right? Nowhere to go but up? That's how the Transformers experience was - low expectations were met and just a little exceeded. :D

no it isn't judging the movie it is saying it isn't going to be what I want to see. I am not saying it is going to be good or bad, hell, it could be better than what I have in my mind of what I think it should be. I don't know, I'll find out when it comes out. I'm just not going in with any expectations.

There is a difference between judging a film and saying it isn't going to be what you are wanting going in. I wanted the Joker's skin to be bleached and not make up. I wanted the bat suit to be just normal, grey and black with NO armor. I wanted Batman's belt to be huge with big pockets. These are things that I wanted and didn't get. But I liked Batman so much that it just didn't matter. Still doesn't. Would I still like to see my Batman? Oh hell yeah. Do I think MY Batman would be better than the one we have? At this point, no. I am honest enough to say that I can't do a better job.

[Deckard]

Didn't you already pass judgement when you said:



I'm not trying to bait you or anything, but I think we "haters" have a legitimate argument. I will go see it too, and will probably enjoy parts. But it won't be the movie I want to see. See?

...plus I figure if I go into it with the lowest of low expectations, I can't possibly be disappointed right? Nowhere to go but up? That's how the Transformers experience was - low expectations were met and just a little exceeded. :D

I can picture the cast of the movie on the old Mad TV bit Lowered Expectations. "Loooowweerrreeddd Expectationsssssss" :>

[delta]

have I ever told you that on a personal level I hate you more than anybody else on the tank? LOL.... just kidding.
Really? I haven't noticed :)

I liked TNG and DS9. As lame as the classic was it does have it's place. The rest were just..... well........ pure crap. I'd give voyager two thumbs down but I just don't think that would cut it.


Ehh... The Old Star Trek is the only one I really like. The whole 60's vibe, Capitan Kirk acting all cool gettin' the chicks, Uhura lookin' all foxy all the time.

It was cheesy I'll be the first admit that. Foam rocks, Bad fight scenes, Rubber heads.

It's cheesy but THATS HALF THE FUN!!!! Dig this, and tell me it don't put a smile on yer face!!YouTube - Bad Star Trek Fight Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBnflnDArlk&feature=related)

In it's defense though it had good writing. Full of metaphors you could put to use in everyday life. Every episode preached tollerance, equality, the battle of good vs. evil, Truth justice, and the intergalactic way!!! o.k. now I'm being cheesy:)

[Lantern_Lad]

you do have a right to your opinion. As a Star Wars fan there are some things I very much liked, some things I didn't. But was it writing or directing that was the problem you had with it? I'd say the biggest mistake he made with the movies was the fans. He didn't listen in the first then did more so in the second and too much in the third. He should have stuck with his vision and left the fans out of it OR listened to them completely from the start. Regardless it was a no win for him. We as fans wrote, directed, cast and produced the film in our heads years ago. This is how we get back on the topic of GI Joe. Same with the Joe movie. We have a vision of what it "should be" and won't accept anything less.

Please note here Echo, this is only my opinion here. I'm not trying to annoy or irritate anyone with any of my comments about Mr. Lucas (except maybe the man himself)

I'm a huge Star Wars fan... I loved the OT, and enjoyed the prequels when I saw them in the theater... it wasn't until further viewings that I began to realize just how bad they really were. I started thinking perhaps it was the actors... No. Natalie Portman is fantastic, Garden State was a fantastic movie, and the Professional. Hayden Christiansen is alright, Life as a House was great! Really haven't seen him in anything else though. Ewan McGregor is always great, pick a movie, it's great (though there was that one with Cameron Diaz...). Samuel L. Jackson... uh, OK, so with him it can go either way.

So it wasn't the actors... The writing... more holes in the plot than swiss cheese. Still not sure exactly how the Trade Federation was supposed to play out. But, for the most part, I could get behind it and let my imagination fill in the spots...

What else does that leave? Not the producer... Lucas owns him. Not the production company... Lucas owns them.

That really only leaves Lucas.

I swear to God, Attack of the Clones is one of the worst movies I (this is my opinion) have EVER seen. The dialogue was awful ("We live in a real world... come back to it!" - wtf?), the acting was horrible from EVERYONE. There were a few key moments in it that were classic Star Wars though... the Clone attack on Geonosis, the Jango vs. Obi Wan, Jango vs. Mace (swear to God (again) Jango is far cooler than Boba ever was), even Anakins hissy fit on Tatooine was cool. Probably one of the best Anakin moments in the prequels.

Revenge of the Sith was good. Better than Attack of the Clones, by leaps and bounds, but still littered with bad dialogue (mostly uttered by Anakin & Padme). Obi Wan, Palpatine and moments that I had waited 22 years to see (Order 66, Vader vs, Obi) are what saved that movie.

Could it be that the Phantom Menace was better? Is it possible that Liam Neeson was the best actor (aside from Ian McDiarmid) in the prequels? Yes Jar Jar deserved a lightsaber to the skull, but the duel between Obi/Qui Gon/Maul was worth waiting through all the childish moments.

I'm torn... the OT had occasional bad acting as well... but it was just done so much better.

One thing is for certain in my opinion:

Lucas can direct one AMAZING trailer... the actual movie... groan...

[Lantern_Lad]

And I never pass judgement on a movie (vocally) until after I see it... a few times. Yeah, they always get a lot of money out of me before I decide how bad (or good) it is...

'nuff said

[Echo7Solo]

again everybody is entitled to their opinion. Where I disagree with a lot of what you said this isn't the place to discuss it. Lets get back on topic (something I need to do myself also)

[Lantern_Lad]

again everybody is entitled to their opinion. Where I disagree with a lot of what you said this isn't the place to discuss it. Lets get back on topic (something I need to do myself also)

Fair enough!

That being said: I love the Joe posters!

Picked up Snake Eyes, Baroness and Rip Cord at Comic-Con. Apparently they were out of Scarlett and Duke... they were the most sought after. Odd.

[Dark 5cythe]

Frankly a French ninja orphan, a Korean ninja clan, an evil Dr. who becomes the head of Cobra, Duke's ex-fiance going berzerk... those are all sound like redone characters to me.



Not necessarily. We've seen the script, I think it's fine to make some legitimate judgments from it, two of them being I don't like the character background stories or the plot of the film. To say that that's hardcore prejudice seems... prejudice. And expressing a negative opinion based on a script hardly amounts trolling.



It also costs nothing to say "this movie is going to suck". I'll still go spend my $10, and hope to goodness its ok. But from the costumes, script, and everything else confirmed, it looks more like Starship Troopers than my beloved GI Joe.

So all these opinions are based of a leaked script which we dont know for sure is real and if it is, most likely has been rewritten how many times?

You're right it isnt prejudice, its plain old IGNORANCE lol.
How can any of you make decisions and assumptions without FACTS that at this point are unavailable. namely, the movie itself.

All we have are rumors, early material from a while back and tidbit interviews. Thats some bad detective work people.

Why not just wait till we AT least get a teaser trailer? Some hard indesputable finished footage?

Why do fans love to hate their own hobbies? I dont get it......

[Dark 5cythe]

Fair enough!

That being said: I love the Joe posters!

Picked up Snake Eyes, Baroness and Rip Cord at Comic-Con. Apparently they were out of Scarlett and Duke... they were the most sought after. Odd.

Duke looks badass. And him being in the movie makes it easier to bring your girl(if you have one) along.

And scarlet looks pretty damn hot! Easy on the eyes, the women of GI JOE. They might not have been the best choices but at least they arent ugly!

[Elite Force Cobra]

looks like evreyone is looking for the live action style flic

[Derek2783]

So all these opinions are based of a leaked script which we dont know for sure is real and if it is, most likely has been rewritten how many times?

You're right it isnt prejudice, its plain old IGNORANCE lol.
How can any of you make decisions and assumptions without FACTS that at this point are unavailable. namely, the movie itself.

All we have are rumors, early material from a while back and tidbit interviews. Thats some bad detective work people.

Why not just wait till we AT least get a teaser trailer? Some hard indesputable finished footage?

Why do fans love to hate their own hobbies? I dont get it......

What we have is confirmation of things like power suits and drillers which line up with the leaked script. We know about the baroness's backstory which includes Duke. We know there were kids cast to play the SE/SS children, so we can be reasonably sure about the accuracy of the backstory there as well. We know Ripcord is black and plays Duke's best friend. We know the CC background we've read is what's going in.

Bottom line is, we've had confirmation of a lot of things, and very strong indicators of a lot more.

So help me if I'm wrong, NO ONE will be more happy to eat his words than I am. But the footage, no matter how glossy, won't change the fact that what so far has been confirmed is one big pile of crap.

And who said I love to hate this hobby? That statement is "plain old IGNORANCE", isn't it? Just because I disagree with just about everything confirmed to this point about the movie hardly makse me someone who hates GI Joe or anything else about the hobby. It just means the movie is going to suck :D

[SportingViper]

What we have is confirmation of things like power suits and drillers which line up with the leaked script. We know about the baroness's backstory which includes Duke. We know there were kids cast to play the SE/SS children, so we can be reasonably sure about the accuracy of the backstory there as well. We know Ripcord is black and plays Duke's best friend. We know the CC background we've read is what's going in.

Bottom line is, we've had confirmation of a lot of things, and very strong indicators of a lot more.

So help me if I'm wrong, NO ONE will be more happy to eat his words than I am. But the footage, no matter how glossy, won't change the fact that what so far has been confirmed is one big pile of crap.

And who said I love to hate this hobby? That statement is "plain old IGNORANCE", isn't it? Just because I disagree with just about everything confirmed to this point about the movie hardly makse me someone who hates GI Joe or anything else about the hobby. It just means the movie is going to suck :D

I share your opinion. There were many rumors(that I hated) that have been confirmed.There have been others that have been changed or debunked(thank god) like the SE not talking and American Hawk at the SDCC 08.What's wrong with hating rumors?And when they turn out true do people who call people "ignorant" say "well I guess they are true,my bad".

By the way the movie will be a good action movie just not a good Joe movie.My opinion!

[fred V]

look what they did to dr.doom,its dr.doom for god sakes,how can they get away with that?JOE FANS ITS COMING,AND I WILL EAT MY WORDS ON THIS ONE TOO!

[fred V]

lets all stop trying to kid ourselves,this aint gonna be pretty and i think ALL of us know this!lol.

[delta]

Why do fans love to hate their own hobbies? I dont get it......

Ehh...You love someting, then you want to possess it, then you want to change it. It's a vicious cycle.

Happens with guys, and girls all the time. Happens with posessions too.

Like when a girl falls for the "bad boy" then they want to make him the "good boy". Or a teenager falls in love with a car, all they can think about is the car. Then they get the car, and want to hot rod it.

Makes no sense, but thats the way it goes...it's life.

[fred V]

Ehh...You love someting, then you want to possess it, then you want to change it. It's a vicious cycle.

Happens with guys, and girls all the time. Happens with posessions too.

Like when a girl falls for the "bad boy" then they want to make him the "good boy". Or a teenager falls in love with a car, all they can think about is the car. Then they get the car, and want to hot rod it.

Makes no sense, but thats the way it goes...it's life.

so true man,so true.

[Lantern_Lad]

Duke looks badass. And him being in the movie makes it easier to bring your girl(if you have one) along.

And scarlet looks pretty damn hot! Easy on the eyes, the women of GI JOE. They might not have been the best choices but at least they arent ugly!

Ha! I always tell my wife that it's a good thing I'm already married, cuz it would never happen now. One look at the collection and it would be over.

[delta]

Thats not even fair you are comparing what they did 22 years ago, they learned their lesson right away, which is why Duke did not die in the movie during the following year, like he was supposed to.

I don't think Killing Duke, or Optimus is the worst thing that could have happend. In fact killing Optimus made him more heroic to an extent. Like a martyr for a cause. Same could have gone for Duke.

Did they let it flesh out that way? nooooooooo!
They Killed off Optimus in the FIRST ACT!!! Then it was like....
"Here you go kids...A bunch of New guys you don't care about for another hour!!! Avalible now at your local toy store!!! HASBROtm."

And it's not like they went back to the drawing board for GI.Joe after that either. They just voiced over "Dukes gonna make it" at the Last moment. The rest of the movie was.."I know let's just have a bunch of new Joes run around with a pro Wrestler!! Kids will LOVE it!!!"

The only thing HASBROtm learned from the Transformers movie was not to KILL the main characters.
They never understood why we liked them, or that we might want a story based arround them.

And I don't think Hasbro has learned a lesson yet.

Last year we got a Transformers movie WITHOUT ANY TRANSFORMERS!
instead we got some Baby faced kid (Shi LaDouche) chasing around some 20 something highschool super model. Why? Cus' Speilberg thinks he's got a "Bright future" (of coarse he dose if you give him a career).

But what do I know people liked it *shrug* people also liked Celine Dion. I don't get it

[Lantern_Lad]

instead we got some Baby faced kid (Shi LaDouche) chasing around some 20 something highschool super model.

Yeah... but... dude, seriously, she is smokin' hot.
I wonder what Joe character she could play?

Too young for Lady Jaye... Cover Girl's taken... Zarana? Zanya?

Say what you want about Shia... he got to lock lips with her...

[Captain STEVEN DePACE]

Say what you want about Shia... he got to lock lips with her...

Yes, acting is so very close to intimacy and love.

[Lantern_Lad]

Yes, acting is so very close to intimacy and love.

Funny...

[delta]

Yeah... but... dude, seriously, she is smokin' hot.

You can see "smokin hot chicks" Anytime You want. Soap commercials, @ the Video Store, Redtube ect.....

When I go to see Transformers. I want TRANSFORMERS.

I don't need T&A all the time.

[ZARTAN]

I Agree that tf movie was a big ass comercial for the ugliest looking transformers line ever, joe movie will suck hard as we all know but we will all go and see it yell cobra yell yojoe complain here when we get home buy the action figures for snake eyes and storm shadow and wait for the dvd

[sgt.bludhound]

I got my posters @ SDCC with Baroness, Scarlett (both are Hawt)
and of course Ripcord! lol
I love my posters!

[spacemonkeymafia]

I didnt know they had a Stalker poster.........wait thats............ripcord.........r...i...g...h...t .........

[TheBaroness]

I don't care too much about posters, I just want the movie to NOT suck.

[/has no hope]