This Movie is going to Rule!!

[delta]

An alternative to the 'this Movie is going to Suck!!' thread

[gunslingercbr]

waiting for the first trolling "this movie is going to rule...the toilet! bwhahahaha!" post.

[Golobulous]

this movie is going to rule like doom, double dragon, rocky 5
lol

there took care of it for you gunslinger

bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha

[delta]

O.k. It's not my personal opinion. Just trying to be fair here Guys.

[camper]

I am looking forward to it.

[Irid70]

Oh, the wit. Those of us who do not hate the film are simply bowled over by your brilliance. We will start hating immediately.

FED(

[Jism83]

Errrrr i be a troll and i say this movie BLOWS Errrrrr!

[Golobulous]

im no troll i am the supreme ruler of COBRA LA


>>>>>>>>>>>FEAR THE SPORES>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Jism83]

you belong with sponge bob golobulous haha. go work at the crabby patty

[Saboteur]

As I said in the other post, I heard major filming was complete and we still have 14 months to go before the release..Lot's of editing, special effects and CGI to be done in over a year..That sounds promising to me!
Saboteur

[A.V.A.C.]

thank-you delta, finally some positivity! i'm looking foward to it and i will be there on opening night.

[Monkeywrench]

This movie will suck

[delta]

This movie will suck

We have a thread for that kind of talk http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12304

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

I'm looking forward to this movie. Fortunately for me, I do not need to validate my collection or existence by the merits of this movie.

[Syn3sthesia]

Hey I'm neutral!! Where do I post?

[gunslingercbr]

im no troll i am the supreme ruler of COBRA LA


>>>>>>>>>>>FEAR THE SPORES>>>>>>>>>>>>

you have no room to troll, you were a vital aspect of the animated Joe movie, or more specifically, what made it bad.

this movie will be fine. I expect a fun, 2 hour escape that delivers what I have always wanted to see -- these characters brought to like in a live-action, FX extravaganza.

[Golobulous]

the live action movie would be better off had they cast "Burgess Meredith"

just sayin..........................

[hectorxd]

at first I didnt like what I saw as far as costumes and casting decisions and script decisions, but I turned over a new leaf some time ago when they started posting footage. I am super excited for this movie to come and to be a good action flick. I am no longer expecting it to be what I want so I am fine with whatever they make (within reason of course).

[Crimson Rage]

I believe the film has potential to be excellent. It isn't set in the 80's, special forces don't each go round with indvidualistic clothing, terrorists don't sport large faction symbols and supervillains don't wear metal masks all the time.

All these things have to be considered when translating such a larger than life property to the 'real' world and I think they've done the best they can in striking a balance between 'traditional' Joe and real world verisimilitude.

[Golobulous]

curious were you saw footage, and i am starting to lean towards a wait and see rather than negative approach. i just bought some transformers animated toys, said i would never do it but they grew on me. mabee not all new takes are bad

[slim19722]

I'll be there opening night too. Been looking forward to this since I first heard a Joe movie was being made. Snake Eyes is my favorite Joe and the fact he's in a live action movie, already makes the movie a winner to me. Never was a big Transformer fan and when I first saw images of the robot's before the movie came out, I said I wouldn't see the movie, cuz those robot's didn't look like anything I saw in the 80's. But, I did see it on dvd and I was totally impressed and actually enjoyed the movie. And if the Joe movie is just as good as the TF movie, eventhough it's not the Joe's from the 80's, this movie will be a success.

[TheLongestDay]

Finally! My kind of thread!!!

..this movie WILL rule...if you are expecting saving private ryan-then you really dont know what gi joe is all about!

[delta]

this movie is going to rule like doom, double dragon, rocky 5
lol

the live action movie would be better off had they cast "Burgess Meredith"

just sayin..........................


Burgess Maredith was in Rocky 5!

just sayin.........................

[Irid70]

the live action movie would be better off had they cast "Burgess Meredith"

just sayin..........................

Burgess Meredith is dead, unfortunately for him. And I'm sure Golobulus was waaaay down on his list of career accomplishments, as far as he was concerned.

If the live action movie made use of Cobra-La in any sense I might very well be on the other side of the fence saying that it would be the most godawful piece of trash ever devised. I mean, honestly...a 40,000 year old race of snake-people with bio-engineering so advanced it appeared to be magic, and they had to wait till humanity developed the "Broadcast Energy Transmitter" to successfully deliver the bio-weapon that would wipe humanity out?


Even Dr. Doom is laughing at that plan.

[Golobulous]

no he wasn't he was killed off in a previous rocky, i believe he died while rocky was being beat by clubber lane in rocky 3. anyhoo i am keeping an open mind on this one, the previous post was for humerous purposes only

[delta]

no he wasn't he was killed off in a previous rocky, i believe he died while rocky was being beat by clubber lane in rocky 3.

Yes he was. Look here http://youtube.com/watch?v=5MEQ0eBDPzY

[Crimson Rage]

I have to add that Hasbro want to sell new toys. Why should movie Duke have a brown shirt & green pants when we all have that version? Why put HISS Tanks on the screen when they've been on the toy shelves twice this year alone? How many would buy exactly the same HISS but in a 'movie' box?

We have to accept that the film is about making Hasbro money, and that means new designs, new concepts and new products. I expect them to be very desirable and plan on getting as many as possible!

[Crimson Rage]

Errrrr i be a troll and i say this movie BLOWS Errrrrr!

And you have a thread to say exactly that over yonder.
I'll be giving it a wide berth now this thread has popped up so don't worry about me contaminating it with my poisonous optimism any more

Come to think of it, getting rid of me could well have been Delta's motive in starting this one!:)

[hectorxd]

curious were you saw footage,

I mean the footage that came out on youtube a while back. It was basically some guy with a video camera filming the chase scenes through Prague. It was front paged on hisstank.

[Deckard]

well crim i still hope ya post as for no other reason than your pictrures of the good lookin women of stargate :>

[delta]

Come to think of it, getting rid of me could well have been Delta's motive in starting this one!:)

No not at all.
I actualy poasted you an honest to god, legitimate question over there. You never responded. Just cus' we don't agree on everything, dosen't mean I don't like you :)

[Crimson Rage]

well crim i still hope ya post as for no other reason than your pictrures of the good lookin women of stargate :>

I wanted to put Teyla in there too but ran out of space!

[C.I.A.D.]

IMHO, I think it's way to early to say if this movie is going to suck OR rock. Granted, it's not the G.I.Joe everyone grew up with...but is it that hard to look past that? We have the 25th to re-live our childhoods with, plus the Cartoon on the way. I think it's great that the movie is trying to lure in a larger audience (what big Hollywood blockbuster wouldn't?).

From what we've seen so far, from vehicle design to costumes, the only thing I can say for sure is that it's different.

If it sucks, then by all means, those that don't enjoy it can "I told you so" all day.

Just try to keep an open mind. People say Transformers sucked, but grossing 300Mil goes against that statement. A lot of people enjoyed it, which is why TF Movie toys are still on shelves today.

If G.I.Joe can even get a sliver of that, can you imagine what that means for us? TONS of new toys.

So, in closing...don't fear change. It's a good thing. :)

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

Well, I read the script, grew up on the cartoon, never read the comics (other than most of the Transformers xover). I'm excited about the movie.

I just hope that SE gets horribly disfigured in Joe2 & the Ripcord/Scarlett thing gets dropped. If they want akward love triangles, bring in the Shipwreck/Flint/Lady Jaye one. I'm not too pleased that The Baroness isn't European either. But overall, I expect to like it.

[xFlintx]

Well said C.I.A.D., pretty much summed up what I was thinking.

[SportingViper]

Finally! My kind of thread!!!

..this movie WILL rule...if you are expecting saving private ryan-then you really dont know what gi joe is all about!

Yeah French orphan Snakes-Eyes is what G.I.Joe is all about!

[Zefram]

This movie will rule...
http://www.dqshrine.com/dq/dq3/troll.jpg
...THE BARGAIN BIN! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

[Deckard]

CIAD you have a truly valid point. Again i think its more so the track record of a lot of franchises, not just joe, these days that are putting the big worries on this one. that coupled with the realization that classic charcaters in the toy line may never see the light of day except in movie-ized version i think is also fueling the flames of discontent.

[C.I.A.D.]

CIAD you have a truly valid point. Again i think its more so the track record of a lot of franchises, not just joe, these days that are putting the big worries on this one. that coupled with the realization that classic charcaters in the toy line may never see the light of day except in movie-ized version i think is also fueling the flames of discontent.


I couldn't agree with you more. That said, though, we're all assuming on such a profound level, that we're ruining the thought of the movie and it's "schwag" well before we've even seen a trailer.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'll be the first one to yell out a big BOOOOOOOOO if all we get is a 90 minute screen fart.

I just don't think that's going to be the case here, but that's just my opinion. I think we're in for something a lot more "real" than any of us anticipated.

[SportingViper]

As Stated by Brian Goldner CEO of Hasbro And Joe movie producer in an interview March 6 2008:

But what about the movie's spirit? Should fans expect to see a live-action version of the cartoon, an update on the Marvel comics, or something else entirely? According to Goldner, Sommers and crew want to take filmgoers back a couple of decades:

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."


It was basically promised that this movie would be based on the Joes we know from the US comic run. Not another version of Joe like the one (rumored) being made.

[C.I.A.D.]

How is it "another version" though???

Because Ripcord is black?

Because they're not wearing 80's style uniforms, have o-rings & broken thumbs?

Have you seen more than 2 minutes of the actual movie footage? I know they showed it at Toy Fare. Were you by chance there?

The folks that did see the snippet were amazingly impressed. I highly doubt that anyone here, be they for or against the movie, has the right to preach about "what it's going to be" as compared to "what it is" without first seeing it for themselves. Just my $0.02.

[SportingViper]

How is it "another version" though???

Because Ripcord is black?

Because they're not wearing 80's style uniforms, have o-rings & broken thumbs?

Have you seen more than 2 minutes of the actual movie footage? I know they showed it at Toy Fare. Were you by chance there?

The folks that did see the snippet were amazingly impressed. I highly doubt that anyone here, be they for or against the movie, has the right to preach about "what it's going to be" as compared to "what it is" without first seeing it for themselves. Just my $0.02.

Ok since you seem to know alot about the movie(which I do envy) is Snake-Eyes going to be a French orphan taken in by a vietnamese ninja clan? yes or no(answer that only if you don't get in trouble with the movie people)

[C.I.A.D.]

No, actually, he gets actually Yugoslavian and gets adopted by Pat Moreta. He paints a few fences and polishes a few cars and becomes the great Ninja Commando that he is today.

Karate Kid 5: Back In Black.

[SportingViper]

oh and Ripcord being black is a problem just like Roadblock being white would be a problem....It's not the character's color.

[C.I.A.D.]

oh and Ripcord being black is a problem just like Roadblock being white would be a problem....It's not the character's color.

LMAO...then what other problem would there be?

Let's not go down this road....

Anyways, if you prefer to pass judgement on something you haven't seen yet, please keep it in the "this movie is going to suck" thread.

Thanks

[SportingViper]

No, actually, he gets actually Yugoslavian and gets adopted by Pat Moreta. He paints a few fences and polishes a few cars and becomes the great Ninja Commando that he is today.

Karate Kid 5: Back In Black.

Ok, I guess you either don't know or can't say anything yet.

[C.I.A.D.]

Sorry, Chief, you'll need better bait than that.

Again, this thread's purpose is to praise the movie. If you feel otherwise, please share your thoughts in the thread created for that.

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

I can answer. SE is French in the script. The nationality of the clan & of SS is not stated - therefore, I assume either Japanese (more likely) or Chinese (less likely, but still valid). The Korean thing is because the SS actor is Korean.

If people want the details of a character's histories in the comics to be in the movie, too bad. It's not there. Basically they took the character concepts, possibly a few key characteristics (yes, SE's got a special bond between him & Scarlett, but she likens it to a sibling-like bond), & built from there.

[SportingViper]

Sorry, Chief, you'll need better bait than that.

Again, this thread's purpose is to praise the movie. If you feel otherwise, please share your thoughts in the thread created for that.

Nah,I think I'll stick around and be the Crimson Rage of this forum. :)

[Sysiss]

If it sucks, then by all means, those that don't enjoy it can "I told you so" all day.





You can bet you last dollar that you'll see this statement in the future, guaranteed. People have already made that decision. You'll have your people that love it, and your people that hate it.


You'd think that people that are supposedly "Fans" of something would give it the benefit of the doubt until they see it, regardless of what they've seen or heard to this point, but no. IT'S NOT MY G.I. JOE AND MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED. *As i play my violin*

When your favorite sports team changes it's jersey/logo, arena, players etc. Do you automatically head for the hills or stand by them? I'm not saying that you have to like the changes, but as a "Fan" you should at least be giving it, *the movie* the benefit of the doubt. Change is inevitable, it occurs in every aspect of life.


Most of the "haters" that have convinced themselves that the film will "suck" are right. It will suck for "them" because that's how they choose to think and have a predetermined mindset on the matter, so the result is obvious.

[delta]

oh and Ripcord being black is a problem just like Roadblock being white would be a problem....It's not the character's color.
Here you go. Problem solved

[Golobulous]

you rock ciad, i think the biggest problem with the movie was going to be all the soldiers running around with broken thumbs and crotches.........i just laughed till i hurt at that..........thanks for the comic relief

[SportingViper]

I can answer. SE is French in the script. The nationality of the clan & of SS is not stated - therefore, I assume either Japanese (more likely) or Chinese (less likely, but still valid). The Korean thing is because the SS actor is Korean.

If people want the details of a character's histories in the comics to be in the movie, too bad. It's not there. Basically they took the character concepts, possibly a few key characteristics (yes, SE's got a special bond between him & Scarlett, but she likens it to a sibling-like bond), & built from there.

From CEO of Hasbro and Joe movie producer Brian Goldner in an interview on March 6 2008:

But what about the movie's spirit? Should fans expect to see a live-action version of the cartoon, an update on the Marvel comics, or something else entirely? According to Goldner, Sommers and crew want to take filmgoers back a couple of decades:

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."

So I guess he was mistaken or totally lied about the movie!

[crazyfellow1]

um...two words "battlestar galactica". in the old series boomer was an African American male, now the character is an Asian American female. starbuck was a dude, now the character is a girl. At first fans didn't like this but now (most of them) like the change. and like BSG this movie is a REIMAGINING of the 80's gijoe. you can't say this movie is going to be bad because of some changes, you can say the movie is bad because you have seen it and it is just a bad movie (not saying it is going to be bad, I am looking forward to it) :D

[Deckard]

broken crotches? so the recast john bobbit as duke? LOL

[SportingViper]

Here you go. Problem solved

First thing that came to mind when they anounced him as Ripcord.

[SportingViper]

You can bet you last dollar that you'll see this statement in the future, guaranteed. People have already made that decision. You'll have your people that love it, and your people that hate it.


You'd think that people that are supposedly "Fans" of something would give it the benefit of the doubt until they see it, regardless of what they've seen or heard to this point, but no. IT'S NOT MY G.I. JOE AND MY CHILDHOOD IS RUINED. *As i play my violin*

When your favorite sports team changes it's jersey/logo, arena, players etc. Do you automatically head for the hills or stand by them? I'm not saying that you have to like the changes, but as a "Fan" you should at least be giving it, *the movie* the benefit of the doubt. Change is inevitable, it occurs in every aspect of life.


Most of the "haters" that have convinced themselves that the film will "suck" are right. It will suck for "them" because that's how they choose to think and have a predetermined mindset on the matter, so the result is obvious.

When a team changes it's logo or jersey their history and stats still remain the same.That's not happening with this movie...the character's history are being changed.

[slim19722]

um...two words "battlestar galactica". in the old series boomer was an African American male, now the character is an Asian American female. starbuck was a dude, now the character is a girl. At first fans didn't like this but now (most of them) like the change. and like BSG this movie is a REIMAGINING of the 80's gijoe. you can't say this movie is going to be bad because of some changes, you can say the movie is bad because you have seen it and it is just a bad movie. :D

Not only did Boomer go from being a black male to a Asain American female, but Boomer isn't even a human. Colonel Ty was a black male, then changed to a white male, who again, isn't even a human.

[C.I.A.D.]

This is the 3rd and last time I will post this:

If you don't like the thought of the movie and the bits & pieces you've seen so far, there's a thread made for your thoughts.

Leave the negativity out of this thread.

[crazyfellow1]

Not only did Boomer go from being a black male to a Asain American female, but Boomer isn't even a human. Colonel Ty was a black male, then changed to a white male, who again, isn't even a human.

lol, yeah I was going back and forth whether to say boomer was a cylon and decided that I would just sound like a nerd (though I probably am) :D and I didn't know Ty was African American.

[delta]

This is the 3rd and last time I will post this:

If you don't like the thought of the movie and the bits & pieces you've seen so far, there's a thread made for your thoughts.

Leave the negativity out of this thread.
Seriously though. Were bitching up a storm over there. It's awesome! http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12304&highlight=movie+suck

[TheLongestDay]

Yeah French orphan Snakes-Eyes is what G.I.Joe is all about!

well the french part might change...

but destro-head of M.A.R.S check!

Baroness-deadly sexy black clad spectacled badass check!

Scarlett-gorgeous redhead with a crossbow check!

Snake eyes-mute ninja commando with faithful outfit check!

Arishikage clan check!

StormShadow kickass ninja who may be bad or good clad in white check!

Nanomites,Scheming cobra commander,Zartan disguising himself,Hawk a grizzly general I could go on and on...

We are lucky we are getting that much too...my fave x-men character Sabretooth got turned into Chewbacca for the live action movie!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deckard]

bitching or not there are valid points and arguments on both sides. Please lets not start a civil war and divide ourselves over this. :> lets all have a slim jim :>

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

From CEO of Hasbro and Joe movie producer Brian Goldner in an interview on March 6 2008:

But what about the movie's spirit? Should fans expect to see a live-action version of the cartoon, an update on the Marvel comics, or something else entirely? According to Goldner, Sommers and crew want to take filmgoers back a couple of decades:

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."

So I guess he was mistaken or totally lied about the movie!
That's at least the fourth time you've posted this. We get it. Since I personally haven't read those first 155 issues, it means nothing to me. But even if I had, so what? This movie wouldn't magically slurp the comics out of my head with a bendy straw.

I get it - to you & many others, the comic is GI Joe & the comic is capable & worthy of big screen praise. Cool. I hope they adapt the comic someday (couldn't the new cartoon be doing that?). But that ain't happenin' this time 'round. Not unless you gots the bucks to produce it yourself (& clever legalize to get Hasbro around it's current movie license).

And while the movie is based off of ARAH characters, it's not ARAH. How much of GI Joe is composed os something other than ARAH? A good bit. And it just got a little bigger.

[TheLongestDay]

From CEO of Hasbro and Joe movie producer Brian Goldner in an interview on March 6 2008:

But what about the movie's spirit? Should fans expect to see a live-action version of the cartoon, an update on the Marvel comics, or something else entirely? According to Goldner, Sommers and crew want to take filmgoers back a couple of decades:

"Steve Sommers is very different. But he's perfect, because if you think about his movies like 'The Mummy,' it's the perfect action/adventure movie. If you think about what we're trying to do for G.I. Joe, really bringing back that '80s G.I. Joe from the Marvel comics -- those first 155 issues are really our focus. If you think about that, you'll understand what we're trying to get at with all those characters and all the intricate relationships. I don't think you'd see this movie as wacky. I think you're going to see this movie as being inspirational for younger kids and totally in the sweet spot for the guys who grew up on G.I. Joe."

So I guess he was mistaken or totally lied about the movie!

thanks for posting that i havent read it before-now im even more pumped for this movie! cant wait for the trailer!



...isnt it about time for a teaser at least?

[Deckard]

hey prince i gotta ask...totally off subject...what figure is that supposed to be in your lil pic by your name. it looks cool. :>

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

StormShadow kickass ninja who may be bad or good clad in white check!
Actually . . . no. He's pretty damned evil & heartless here. Callous disregard for innocent lives and causing unnecessary mortal harm on others places you pretty firmly in that catagory.

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

hey prince i gotta ask...totally off subject...what figure is that supposed to be in your lil pic by your name. it looks cool. :>
I was making a red trooper, liked how he looked about halfway through (split him open, sprayed the inside parts first), & stopped. I'm making a jungle trooper the same way right now between posts. You can see more in the Prince's Repaints (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12601) thread as I update it. I'll likely be keeping my avatar current with my latest creation as I go along.

[TheLongestDay]

Actually . . . no. He's pretty damned evil & heartless here. Callous disregard for innocent lives and causing unnecessary mortal harm on others places you pretty firmly in that catagory.

Well as far as I can remember he has done similar in the cartoon and comic yet he still redeems himself somehow...hell in the cartoon episode "satellite down" he chucks a kid (albiet an ape-like one) against a wall!

He made an oath to do whatever it takes to get revenge on the hard masters killer-its his character to do evil things for his purpose

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

Well as far as I can remember he has done similar in the cartoon and comic yet he still redeems himself somehow...hell in the cartoon episode "satellite down" he chucks a kid (albiet an ape-like one) against a wall!

He made an oath to do whatever it takes to get revenge on the hard masters killer-its his character to do evil things for his purpose
Lol.

In the cartoon, he once destroyed a tank bare-handed. The cartoon is . . . cartoony.

[TheLongestDay]

Lol.

In the cartoon, he once destroyed a tank bare-handed. The cartoon is . . . cartoony.

yet you will still find people extremely upset that the movie isnt more like the cartoon! :P

[ceraurus]

I'm glad this thread was started. I've generally refrained from making any movie comments (or even reading the movie threads). I will say that I agree with CIAD - I'll wait until after the I see the movie to come to a conclusion.

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

Maybe they'd be happier if this was a big-screen adaptation of The Viper is Coming.

[delta]

bitching or not there are valid points and arguments on both sides. Please lets not start a civil war and divide ourselves over this. :> lets all have a slim jim :>

Already there dude, already there..

[delta]

O.k. I got a joke.

How many GI.Joe fans dose it take to screw in a light bulb?

[Deckard]

LOL DELTA. thanks i almost choked on my beer. :P

[crazyfellow1]

O.k. I got a joke.

How many GI.Joe fans dose it take to screw in a light bulb?

441 :D

[delta]

O.k. I got a joke.

How many GI.Joe fans dose it take to screw in a light bulb?

One to screw it in, and 1,000 to bitch about how the old one was better!

[crazyfellow1]

so true :D

[vadersquest]

you belong with sponge bob golobulous haha. go work at the crabby patty
LMFAO!!

[Sysiss]

When a team changes it's logo or jersey their history and stats still remain the same.That's not happening with this movie...the character's history are being changed.

Depends how you look at it. A lot of people here are up in arms because of the changes to looks, etc. They can't accept the modern garb. That would mean that they are partial to a certain era of the G.I Joe "Team" and not the G.I. Joe "Franchise" and are unwilling to embrace change which is inevitable, just like sports teams.

If the History/nationalities of the characters is your only concern then i think your loosing too much sleep over it. That seems like the least of worries when it comes to this movie. It's a small area in such a grand scheme of things. You'll probably see an inference or two of SE being French and that'll be the end of it.

[Shin Densetsu]

That's not happening with this movie...the character's history are being changed.
Because its a movie not bound by continuity, despite being influenced by it.
One to screw it in, and 1,000 to bitch about how the old one was better!
Notice you replied to something you asked.

[Shin Densetsu]

bitching or not there are valid points and arguments on both sides. Please lets not start a civil war and divide ourselves over this. :> lets all have a slim jim :>
Valid points/arguments or not, there is an incredible amount of unnecessary bitching on both sides, and its flowing into both threads.

[SnakeEyes]

I think the French orphan SE thing will depend on how in depth they go with it. If they go so far as to erase the tragedy of him losing his family, especially his twin sister, then I think that'll be not so good. After all, the loss of his sister was a big reason for him developing his relationship with Scarlett. However, if they just vaguely mention it in side bar conversation, I can buy that. The fact is, his background during the early years was all classified and mysterious. The French thing could just be a cover up for his true identity. Without seeing the movie, you just never know. With that all said, that's my opinion of the movie! Until I actually lay eyes on the big screen, I can't judge anything!

[Shin Densetsu]

The fact is, his background during the early years was all classified and mysterious. The French thing could just be a cover up for his true identity. Without seeing the movie, you just never know. With that all said, that's my opinion of the movie! Until I actually lay eyes on the big screen, I can't judge anything!
For all we know it might not even be in the movie. What if it was on a legit script but never made it to final production? There are things called changes that are sometimes made, and most of the people bitching don't realize such a thing could be done. This isn't directed at you btw.

As for me, who cares if he is french or not in the movie? The guy was white in the old comics, oh and sure American, but no one knew of his ancestry, it was never mentioned in the comics. Yeah maybe he was some guy in a small town, but still, where did his ancestors come from?

It really doesn't matter. I hope the movie is good but the director worries me, thats about it. The movie could be good despite the changes that are rumored. Besides its in its own continuity, so I'll judge it for what it is. If they were going for a direct adaptation and then made changes, then I'd be mad.
Right now there is nothing for me to be mad about. Not everything on a paper script may make it to a movie. Ever watch the behind the scenes commentaries on DVDs? They show a lot of stuff that does not make it into the final film yet exists on script. A lot of the stuff from the supposed leaked script might not even be in the movie. So whats the point in complaining about stuff that may be irrelevant, stuff that might not even be in a movie?

So I'll wait to see footage, a trailer, something legit before I add in a valid complaint. Right now I see potential for a good movie, and am anxious to see the toys.

[SnakeEyes]

Heard that!! ^^^^

[gunslingercbr]

I hope they adapt the comic someday...
I hope they never do. not that I wouldn't care to see it, just that I am a vindictive prick, and all the whining about what is and isn't Joe because it strays from the comics makes me want those whose plight it is to ram that down our throats never to get their movie, and to lament it the rest of their lives. in fact, I hope this movie is such a monster hit that it wipes the entire original RAH continuity off the face of the earth, never to re-emerge again, and accelerator suits, a black Short-Fuze and white Doc, and a celibate, asexual Snake Eyes who has no interest in Scarlett or any other female, become the standard for those characters until the brand is merged with the Corps line and are released as 9" plush dolls.

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

I hope they never do. not that I wouldn't care to see it, just that I am a vindictive prick, and all the whining about what is and isn't Joe because it strays from the comics makes me want those whose plight it is to ram that down our throats never to get their movie, and to lament it the rest of their lives. in fact, I hope this movie is such a monster hit that it wipes the entire original RAH continuity off the face of the earth, never to re-emerge again, and accelerator suits, a black Short-Fuze and white Doc, and a celibate, asexual Snake Eyes who has no interest in Scarlett or any other female, become the standard for those characters until the brand is merged with the Corps line and are released as 9" plush dolls.

Amen. ;-)

[kingmoredred]

Im not going to say ya or na untill i see a trailer are the movie. Me and my 4 boys will go see it regardless if for nothing else to help the line, the better this movie does the more joes we will see on the pegs.

[Tracker]

yea i got a good feeling about the film.

[kneedabreak]

I can't wait for it. Don't know if it will be great or crappy, and neither does anyone else here.

[thunderdan19]

I honestly feel bad for everybody who thinks this movie is going to rule. Out of everything we know about the movie so far, what bit of info is it that makes you truly believe it will rule?

Two words: Larry Hama. Do you think he would associate himself with a turd that would do nothing but destroy the franchise he spent so much time and effort to help build?

Two more words: The Mummy. If Sommers has half a brain, he will return to what worked: lots of action, cool effects, fun characters and timely comic relief. And hopefully, Joe won't take itself too seriously after all.

Last two: No Cobra-La. If they are true to their word and keep the premise at least Hollywood believable, it should do just fine.

Snake Eyes is French??? Oh, that's it, I'm so out... Who wants to buy some Joes???? *just kidding*

[Crimson Rage]

Originally Posted by RandallA
I honestly feel bad for everybody who thinks this movie is going to rule. Out of everything we know about the movie so far, what bit of info is it that makes you truly believe it will rule?

Keep your 'sympathy', thanks.
We 'poor deluded fools' have made a choice to assume the best, be understanding of change and supportive of something that has the potential to energise the Joe franchise like never before and if that's some bizarre, alien concept to you then "tough", frankly.

I could say I "feel sorry" for someone who can make such a negative snap decision on something sight unseen and then sneer at others for daring to be positive, but I wouldn't be so condescending.

Wow, that annoyed me more than I thought it would.

[gunslingercbr]

I honestly feel bad for everybody who thinks this movie is going to rule. Out of everything we know about the movie so far, what bit of info is it that makes you truly believe it will rule?

what exactly do you feel bad for us for? do you think we are imbeciles? that we have to be spoon fed by caretakers because our intelligence must be so low if we think the movie will be good? at least you didn't throw out the gay card like you seem to like to do at us. that's a step up in maturity in your criticism.

I actually feel bad for anyone who is so stuck in the past that they can't enjoy G.I. Joe unless it is a direct reproduction of what was made 25 years ago. that's a repercussion of close-mindedness, which is directly linked to maturity level. I don't see that as any different than the 40 year old lady still wearing the same business suits from the 15 years ago because she still only sees it as how she saw it when she purchased it then and doesn't realize styles have changed. that gal gets made fun of, and you know it, so the Joe equivalent deserves the same ridicule.

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

I honestly feel bad for everybody who thinks this movie is going to rule. Out of everything we know about the movie so far, what bit of info is it that makes you truly believe it will rule?

Damn, sorry for having a different opinion, I assumed the info available was not the same as seeing the finished product. I guess you can judge a book by it's cover

So you don't have to feel so bad, why not try this thread out:

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12304&highlight=movie+suck

[thunderdan19]

You can have your disposable popcorn flicks, but I prefer movies with passion, quality acting, emotion, good dialogue & character development.

Yeah, you definitely need to be in the "sucks" thread then. Joe has never been advertised to be anything but a fun "popcorn flick." I would love to hear what movies you would put in the category you listed above. I doubt many of them are based on toys and comic books...

Also, Larry Hama is there to give his opinion when he's asked for it. That's it. You're fooling yourself if you think he has final say in anything. In my opinion he was brought in just to apease fans & they probably won't even ask him for his thoughts on anything.

You might be right, but somehow I thought he was a little better than that. I doubt he's hard up for money, and he did sound pretty enthusiastic about the movie in his interviews. Maybe I'm just a little more optimistic than you. Again, there's a whole other thread just for you.

[Crimson Rage]

You know, I have some major reservations about the new Star Trek movie. I've always been a fan of the show and it's optimistic view of an enlightened future for humanity, so don't quite know what to make of J.J. Abrahms' tendancy towards 'dark & moody' being applied to the latest cinema outing. Never mind the fact that it seems to be some sort of 'reboot'...

But for all that, I'm still looking forward to the movie. I see the potential in adopting a new vision to steer the franchise to places it hasn't been and to connect with an audience that has until now considered Star Trek the preserve of 'nerds'.
As such, I will go and see it with an open, positive mind, then decide whether it was successful or not.

GI JOE: RISE OF COBRA will see heroes I've grown up with come to life in the real world for the first time. I don't care if the uniforms are different and Ripcord is black.. these are still the same people I originally saw in the comics so many years ago 'given flesh' and I can do nothing but embrace it with an open heart & mind.

I must confess that personally, I didn't like THE MUMMY, but that was due to me not liking 'horror comedies' of any sort to start with. Despite not being to my tastes, I still acknowledge it was a well made and successful adventure that appealed to many. I certainly can't say it was 'badly made', so can't dispute the choice of director.
With the $150,000,000 budget I expect an entertaining adventure that will appeal to both me as an 'old' fan and the likes of my Sister, who wouldn't care less what colour Ripcord was or where Snake Eyes came from.

[Shin Densetsu]

Out of everything we know about the movie so far, what bit of info is it that makes you truly believe it will rule?
What we know for sure, or what we think we know from a script that might not even be legit, or if so, might not even make it to the final movie without changes?

[Shin Densetsu]

Also, Larry Hama is there to give his opinion when he's asked for it. That's it. You're fooling yourself if you think he has final say in anything. In my opinion he was brought in just to apease fans & they probably won't even ask him for his thoughts on anything.
Considering he was under an NDA and couldn't answer any questions pertaining to the movie, you don't know for sure what he was able to do on the movie, and neither do we.

[Deckard]

like i said in the other thread i think the one thing ALL of us can agree on....thank god UWE BOWL ( the bloodrayne films) isnt directing it.

[thunderdan19]

all 3 of the Spidermans flicks (even the 3rd one with all its flaws), really dig X-Men 1, think X-Men 2 is the best superhero comic movie to date (hated the 3rd one though), love Batman Begins and also liked Superman Returns. Then (and I'm not sure if you even consider these "comic movies," but techincally they are) I also liked 300, Road to Perdition, History of Violence, etc. And even though it's not a comic movie, The Incredibles is one of my all time favorites.

Wow, even though I actually liked some of those, I really don't think I would categorize more than maybe one or two of them as:

with passion, quality acting, emotion, good dialogue & character development.

I think you might be a little early to pass judgement, particularly if you are comparing to some of the bigger "blockbuster" movies on your list... Sorry, I'm just not buying it.

[delta]

Notice you replied to something you asked.

I used to talk to myself all the time before the Tank.

Self- Flint is awesome!!

Self- Yeah.

Self- Snakeeyes is awesome!!!!

Self- Yeah.

Self- Tiger force flint is awesome!!!!!

Self- Um.....

Self- Yeah your right. What was I talking about.

[Crimson Rage]

like i said in the other thread i think the one thing ALL of us can agree on....thank god UWE BOWL ( the bloodrayne films) isnt directing it.


Oh gawd yes. I'd never seen any of his movies so didn't really get the criticism, but I decided to watch BLOODRAYNE (the first one) because I fancy Kristana Loken.

Oh dear heavens, I wanted to scratch my eyes out afterwards. The most ineptly directed, poorly choreographed action scenes I've ever seen assaulted my poor peepers, and we should all be truly grateful he's nowhere near GI JOE!

[Deckard]

see i knew there was SOMETHING that we could all agree on...for the most part. :> oh and if you thought the first one was bad...never go near the second one. I tried watching it on sci-fi channel a while back and got through 9-11 minutes of it before i wanted to wretch my beer.

[Crimson Rage]

see i knew there was SOMETHING that we could all agree on...for the most part. :> oh and if you thought the first one was bad...never go near the second one. I tried watching it on sci-fi channel a while back and got through 9-11 minutes of it before i wanted to wretch my beer.

Ah, but the divine Ms. Loken isn't even in that one though is she? What little incentive there was just vanished completely, but thanks for the warning anyway!!:)

[delta]

Two words: Larry Hama. Do you think he would associate himself with a turd that would do nothing but destroy the franchise he spent so much time and effort to help build?

Two more words: The Mummy. If Sommers has half a brain, he will return to what worked: lots of action, cool effects, fun characters and timely comic relief. And hopefully, Joe won't take itself too seriously after all.

I think Larry Hammas involvment is greatly exaggerated. He is a comic writer, and not a movie maker after all. In the interview I saw with him about it he seemed tired, and uninterested.

As far as the Mummy goes... As a fan of Boris Karloff, Bella Lagosi, and the like I will say he butchered the F out of those films. The Mummy, and Van Helsing. Some things don't need to be remade. It's like if Green Day went, and "remade" the first Ramones album. Tasteless, and pointless. Also with that being said, He seems better suited for a film like GI.Joe. He woulden't be my first pick, but as long as he stays away from unscary monster movies thats cool.


I don't see that as any different than the 40 year old lady still wearing the same business suits from the 15 years ago because she still only sees it as how she saw it when she purchased it then and doesn't realize styles have changed.
I like that lady!! Even though she kept my football when it accidentaly fell in her yard. She has Style!!

[delta]

see i knew there was SOMETHING that we could all agree on...for the most part. :> oh and if you thought the first one was bad...never go near the second one. I tried watching it on sci-fi channel a while back and got through 9-11 minutes of it before i wanted to wretch my beer.
Will you tell Crimson Rage I said hi, and I been trying to be nice to her. I think she put me on her "ignor" list over at the other thread. She's touchy

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

She's a he.

[delta]

She's a he.

oops. assume spells ass u me. Mostly me

[Deckard]

no no the saying, said best my sam jackson in the long kiss good night," never make and assumption cause when you do you make an ass out of you...and umption." lol. i love that line.

[delta]

no no the saying, said best my sam jackson in the long kiss good night," never make and assumption cause when you do you make an ass out of you...and umption." lol. i love that line.
Damn it!! why am I so stupid :( Wait don't answer that

[spacemonkeymafia]

Hate to tell you but Steven Sommners (mis spell I know) is not a good director.............keep the faith though I like it....

[Crimson Rage]

Hate to tell you but Steven Sommners (mis spell I know) is not a good director.............keep the faith though I like it....

Even that is just your opinion. I know plenty of people who thought 'The Mummy' was a very well realised blend of humour & adventure and even though it isn't the sort of film I usually watch, I don't for one second consider it or 'Van Helsing' to be the work of an incompetent.

So I will keep my faith, thank you!

[copywrite]

I didn't think Van Helsing was that bad. It wasn't great, but it's not unwatchable.

[crazyfellow1]

yeah, the only reason I didn't really like it was the bad writing

[Crimson Rage]

I didn't think Van Helsing was that bad. It wasn't great, but it's not unwatchable.

I agree. It suffered from too many ideas shoe-horned into the one movie and personally I'm not a big fan of Hugh Jackman, but I thought the film did at least look stylish and that it offered up a lot of fun moments thanks to the brisk pace and energy Sommers brought to it.

[Deckard]

ya gotta admit though that dracula was probably the wimpiest dracula in quite a while..even leslie neilsens dracula in the mel brooks film was more manly :> lol

[crazyfellow1]

yeah, bad casting, except for the monk sidekick guy, he played the character very well.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

As I said in the other post, I heard major filming was complete and we still have 14 months to go before the release..Lot's of editing, special effects and CGI to be done in over a year..That sounds promising to me!
Saboteur

Lots of special effects... CGI... Hmm.. Like Speed Racer? (OH SNAP!!!!)

[SnakeEyes]

I'm predicting a fast paced, roller coaster, thrill ride, action/adventure movie! And that...to me...sounds cool!! Especially with Park playing my beloved SE! Can't you just imagine the fight scenes between him and SS...aaawwww yeaaahh...I just jizzed myself!!!

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

I'm predicting a fast paced, roller coaster, thrill ride, action/adventure movie! And that...to me...sounds cool!! Especially with Park playing my beloved SE! Can't you just imagine the fight scenes between him and SS...aaawwww yeaaahh...I just jizzed myself!!!


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[MTN]

I'm still waiting for it come out than I'll say if it's good or bad, but it doesn't look terrible.

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

I'm still waiting for it come out than I'll say if it's good or bad, but it doesn't look terrible.

You are far too rational for this thread. Hate, anger, and bitterness should be your motivation to post.

[COBRACOLLECTOR]

i had Bolo sit down with sommers.

So im not sweating it this movie will be great
If not Bolo will asure there wont be a part 2 or 3

I think you get the point.

Vote Bolo or Die 2008

[delta]

i had Bolo sit down with sommers.

So im not sweating it this movie will be great
If not Bolo will asure there wont be a part 2 or 3

I think you get the point.

Vote Bolo or Die 2008

Bolo could be more scary than Karloff
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q2Vh5VjZxC0&feature=related

[crazyfellow1]

Sorry to get all unoptimistic, but the Mummy was never about humor & adventure. It was Horror. The close ups on Karlof's face are still scary today. Way more scary than CGI bugs.

Dig this http://youtube.com/watch?v=TFE0Ub_xmNA

as opposed to this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4xjFpI5Uxc

um, I enjoyed the second one a thousand times better

[crazyfellow1]

Looks like your gonna love the GI.Joe movie then. However I have taste.

?!?!?!?!? well I guess you know everything now don't you? I'm not going to bore anyone why I have good taste, and frankly I don't give a crap what you think. just because someone likes something you don't doesn't mean they don't have taste. :( and your at the wrong thread you want to go here http://www.hisstank.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12304

[crazyfellow1]

The original Mummy is a classic. They make US. Stamps out of Boris Karloffs characters. It is hailed as one of the all time greats in horror history.

I find Sommers Mummy to be rather tasteless, not in a good Ed Wood, John Watters type way either.

Your entitled to your opinion, but don't try to argue a classic against a dated popcorn flick. It's just not substantial.

your right, I guess three sequels and a spin off does mean that sommers mummy sucked

[crazyfellow1]

Then why argue with me about it?


I don't think. I know

cause I'm bored,seriously, that's the only reason. and maybe the fact that you won't except others opinions if you do not agree with them, naw, I'm just bored

[Crimson Rage]

Sorry to get all unoptimistic,

Why apologise?
You can be as "unoptimistic" as you like. The problem stems from you thinking I must be too otherwise I'm some kind of deluded halfwit.

And I've seen the original 'The Mummy' thanks (It's just one of over 1000 genre films I have in a collection that spans most of the last century) and if you truly think Sommers' 'Mummy' had the same intent as the 1932 film then it's little wonder you found it lacking.

[crazyfellow1]

Being able to make money off the common, modern day movie going idiot. Dosen't mean you have made anything of substance.


Common opion on media (movies, music ect...) infuriates me on a a regular basis. Thus is the fate of one with taste.

ok then, the original was horrible, blah blah balh, the one sommers made is better, blah blah blah. people who like the original have no taste, blah blah blah, I have taste, blah blah blah. wow, fulfilling... so very fulfilling. and this "Being able to make money off the common, modern day movie going idiot. Dosen't mean you have made anything of substance" must mean everyone but you who has seen a movie in the past ten years is an idiot right? everyone who ever say a sequel to a movie is an idiot. wow that makes sense.

[Zefram]

The original Mummy is a classic. They make US. Stamps out of Boris Karloffs characters. It is hailed as one of the all time greats in horror history.

I find Sommers Mummy to be rather tasteless, not in a good Ed Wood, John Watters type way either.

I'll admit, it's got nothin' on the original, but it wasn't bad either. Arnold Vosloo ain't Karlof, but he was definately a menacing villain when it was called for. They were obviously going in the adventure direction, and they made a decent adventure movie.

The problem was the Mummy 2, The Scorpion King, Van Helsing, and every other excretably vapid turd he's made since.

Mummy 3 actually looks like it has a great premise, so I'll be looking forward to seeing if it can get back any of the goodwill lost since the first.

[Crimson Rage]

I prefer the Terence Fisher version of 'The Mummy' anyway and, by jingo, it too is remarkably different to the original. Guess you can 'change stuff' and still be good.

But ultimately, arguing with someone who proudly declares their taste to be the final, definitive word on anything is futile.
And here's me thinking that counting "Black Narcissus", "A Cantabury Tale", "A Matter of Life and Death", "Forbidden Planet" and "Pandora's Box" amongst my favourite films meant I had a modicum of taste.

[crazyfellow1]

I'll admit, it's got nothin' on the original, but it wasn't bad either. Arnold Vosloo ain't Karlof, but he was definately a menacing villain when it was called for. They were obviously going in the adventure direction, and they made a decent adventure movie.

The problem was the Mummy 2, The Scorpion King, Van Helsing, and every other excretably vapid turd he's made since.

Mummy 3 actually looks like it has a great premise, so I'll be looking forward to seeing if it can get back any of the goodwill lost since the first.

well mummy 3 HAS to be better than the mummy 2. it has something to do with china right, what is the premise?

[BronxBomber]

if you truly think Sommers' 'Mummy' had the same intent as the 1932 film then it's little wonder you found it lacking.


Ah, it did. It was intended to tell a story and make money.

[crazyfellow1]

You need to think about what you write before you write it. Don't put words in my mouth. It Isin't very becoming of you.

you should take your own advice, and I didn't put words in your mouth, perhaps you should have wrote it a little better so that people can read what you think.

[crazyfellow1]

here's what I found "The Mummy very closely parallels the studio's classic from the year before, Dracula. Karl Freund, cinematographer for Dracula (and I Love Lucy twenty years later), was the director of The Mummy and scenes very much resemble each other. Some cast members of Dracula, such as David Manners and Edward Van Sloan, appear in similar roles. Some critics have called The Mummy an instant remake of Dracula, produced so the studio could cash in" I hope you already knew that.

[BronxBomber]

It is funny how those of you that slam on Sommers as an inept filmmaker somehow still end up seeing his movies?

You talk about him as if he were a hack director. Or some sort of an idiot? But you would think the Idiot would be those that go back film after film after film when they dont like him or his work.

Here is my question? For those who hate him or his work, why do you watch his films? If you obviously cannot stand his directing or storytelling abilities yet you cannot stay away from his work, who is the Idiot?

And don't give the bullsh*t answer that you saw it on free TV. You know you either went to the theater or on DVD.

[Crimson Rage]

Ah, it did. It was intended to tell a story and make money.

So was "Pee Wee's Big Adventure", but I didn't see any ancient Egyptian prince trying to woo a modern socialite in it.

But sorry, I didn't expect a thread intended to draw praise from those of us looking forward to GI JOE to descend into a farcical display of innocuous posts being nit-picked by people for the purpose of humiliating those who disagree with them.

What was that about "taste" again?

[crazyfellow1]

So was "Pee Wee's Big Adventure", but I didn't see any ancient Egyptian prince trying to woo a modern socialite in it.

But sorry, I didn't expect a thread intended to draw praise from those of us looking forward to GI JOE to descend into a farcical display of innocuous posts being nit-picked by people for the purpose of humiliating those who disagree with them.

What was that about "taste" again?

LOL :D

[Crimson Rage]

The final irony is that if GI JOE is a massive hit, the detractors will say "that proves nothing - 'Success' doesn't mean 'quality'", but if it's a huge flop they'll be the first to cry "there! That proves it 'sucked'!".

I saw it happen before my very eyes when TRANSFORMERS was released and I can't see anything being different with the JOE movie.

*Sigh* Another supposedly 'friendly' thread to be avoided. And I come here to get away from my worries...

[crazyfellow1]

My arguement was that the Mummy remake (by Sommers), was inferior to original the Mummy. Not that the Mummy was superior to Dracula. Infact I like Dracula (Bela Lugosi) better than the Mummy or Frankenstein (Boris Karloff).
My point on that subject can be seen here in this scene from 'Ed Wood' http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWsKR2xg6HE&feature=related

you didn't read the whole thing did you, the last part of the quote, about the original being made so the studios could cash in was my point
The final irony is that if GI JOE is a massive hit, the detractors will say "that proves nothing - 'Success' doesn't mean 'quality'", but if it's a huge flop they'll be the first to cry "there! That proves it 'sucked'!".

I saw it happen before my very eyes when TRANSFORMERS was released and I can't see anything being different with the JOE movie.

*Sigh* Another supposedly 'friendly' thread to be avoided. And I come here to get away from my worries...

yeah, I'm done with this whole mummy thing, and delta, I truly hope you were playing a game with us, I really do. you like the original, fine, I like sommers version, again fine, if you think I'm wrong, deal with it.

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

Okay - here's the deal. Some people get such things as a director's (or writer's, or actor's, or even cotume designer's) style or method. Some don't.

Some are able to step back & look at big pictures. Some aren't.

Some are consumed by details, consistancy & minutia. Some aren't.

Some want a singal stable, concrete vision that is willing to expand, but unwilling to rewrite itself. It's anchored , but crosses as many boundries of presentation as possible. Often (but not always), these are people that want to be able - if they so choose - to lose themselves in it nearly completely. If fifteen years from now we have a five-sense-immersable virtual GI Joe world where you can either be a spy over their shoulder or even virtually be Zartan & go on missions, you know who will have driven it.

Some people are fine if a cool general vision is adapted freely & loosely. The big picture's all that matters. It's cool - it's fun. But it's ultimately no big deal. Superficial escapism. There are more important things in life. But they want to enjoy it.

I think there's room for both. Have your ARAH. Fill it up with great & interesting stuff. Just accept the fact that Hasbro won't be dedicating all of their Joe resources strickly to that.

It's funny. No fighting over the 12" world, Action Force, & not much over the Transformers crossover, but all this venom over a new continuity mostly based on ARAH? Just calmly but doggedly keep reminding Hasbro that you want your live-action movie too, & they'll listen.

In the meantime, enjoy the movie on its own merits.

I think this post should be the board's new mission statement, or whatever you call it.

But then, I'm pretty drunk ATM.

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The final irony is that if GI JOE is a massive hit, the detractors will say "that proves nothing - 'Success' doesn't mean 'quality'", but if it's a huge flop they'll be the first to cry "there! That proves it 'sucked'!".

I don't measure the success of a movie by the ammount of money it makes at the Box office. I measure it by it's substance.

While this is an analogy pertaining to music, I think it still applies to this arguement.
In 1967 Engelbert Humperdinck released a song called 'please release me (and let me love again), at the time it sold more copies than the Beatles 'Penny Lane/ Strawberry Feilds' 45' single. Preventing the Beatles from reaching #1.

Wich song do you think people remember?

[Prince of Fire & Thunder]

I like 'em both. Weird, huh?

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I like 'em both. Weird, huh?
Totally

[crazyfellow1]

How dose that apply to what we were talking about?
I already said I was done ruining this thread

[delta]

I already said I was done ruining this thread
Cool. Nothing personal o.k. dude. Cyber hand shake extended. You too Crimson Rage

[crazyfellow1]

Cool. Nothing personal o.k. dude. Cyber hand shake extended. You too Crimson Rage

nothing personal at all, "Cyber hand shake" receved and extended to you :D

[BronxBomber]

The final irony is that if GI JOE is a massive hit, the detractors will say "that proves nothing - 'Success' doesn't mean 'quality'", but if it's a huge flop they'll be the first to cry "there! That proves it 'sucked'!".

I saw it happen before my very eyes when TRANSFORMERS was released and I can't see anything being different with the JOE movie.

*Sigh* Another supposedly 'friendly' thread to be avoided. And I come here to get away from my worries...

I agree with you 100%. It is silly to argue that a movie that has not even gone through post production to be criticized and slammed. To compare the 1999 Mummy movie to the 1932 version and somehow make that connection to GI Joe is idiotic and evident of ones lack in understanding film. GI Joe is what it is. This is not going to be this generations Citizen Kane, Star Wars and or Godfather. But it will be a great summer flick.

[BronxBomber]

I don't measure the success of a movie by the ammount of money it makes at the Box office. I measure it by it's substance.

While this is an analogy pertaining to music, I think it still applies to this arguement.
In 1967 Engelbert Humperdinck released a song called 'please release me (and let me love again), at the time it sold more copies than the Beatles 'Penny Lane/ Strawberry Feilds' 45' single. Preventing the Beatles from reaching #1.

Wich song do you think people remember?

So with that logic do we have to wait over 40 years before we can choose between style and substance?


And the Beatles thing happened in the UK, we Americans don't count that....LOL. It only made it to like number 7 or 8 here. It happens!

[Rocky]

The Mummy was a preexisting film before Sommers remade it, so was GI.joe. Therein lies the connection. Sommers made a Mummy film after there was already a Mummy film. Sommers is making a GI.Joe film after there was a GI.Joe film.

The comparison is valad.

Did I miss something, what GI Joe film was there? Dont tell me you are referring to the cartoon?

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The G.I. Joe the movie does not count.
It was made to be in theaters, but after the madness that was Transformers The Movie, the plan to put it on the big screen was scrapped, and the movie was broken down into parts, and shown with the series.
Though, I do remember one night they played it on fox in movie form, but that was well after it had aired mixed in with the series.

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[delta]

LOL............we seem to agree on most of things. I just think that Sommers is not the worst choice they could have gone with and I hope he does it right with GI JOE. We already know the changes they made and can do very little about that. I hope that we get a lot of Homages to the cartoon, toys and 80's nostalgia in general.

Same here. Another Cyber handshake extended.....Put er there pal :)

[Rocky]

Have a good night, it was fun debating.

[CrimsonGuardVet76]

...huh, I'm still looking forward to next summers Joe movie with my fingers crossed.

[delta]

LOL............we seem to agree on most of things. I just think that Sommers is not the worst choice they could have gone with and I hope he does it right with GI JOE. We already know the changes they made and can do very little about that. I hope that we get a lot of Homages to the cartoon, toys and 80's nostalgia in general.

To further comment on that. I do thing he's more suited to do GI.Joe than the Mummy. Action, and adventure is what Joe was about!!

Good luck on that beach head custom

[Rocky]

To further comment on that. I do thing he's more suited to do GI.Joe than the Mummy. Action, and adventure is what Joe was about!!

Good luck on that beach head custom

Thanks. have a nice 4th of July.