Modern Warfare 3

[PitViper]

Finally! InfinityWard is back....not that I don't play Black Ops, I'm just tired of shooting guys in the face with an RPG and having them kill me with a Python.

Anyway, glad MW3 is on the horizon and hopefully we can get the ol' HISS clan slayin' and playin' again.

Worldwide Reveal Trailer - Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® 3 (http://www.callofduty.com/mw3/videos/reveal)

[OSOK]

time to put in for my vacation now i suppose

[Talisman]

Looking forward to see how crap can POSSIBLY get worse for the US and NATO.

Not looking forward to the screaming racist misogynistic 12-year olds that are off their Ridalin during online play.

On the plus side, for those of us who don't want to deal with the above group, they're expanding the Special Ops missions and adding a Horde-esque mode. Let's hope the last part turns out better than the Training mode in black ops... I like winning but that was just ridiculous.

[PitViper]

On the plus side, for those of us who don't want to deal with the above group, they're expanding the Special Ops missions and adding a Horde-esque mode. Let's hope the last part turns out better than the Training mode in black ops... I like winning but that was just ridiculous.

Wait wait...so how does this ensure it keeps "that group" to themselves, and normal ppl who just want to game without the BS to themselves?

[Trooper13]

It looks good, but I gotta be honest the hit recognition in MW2 was garbage and they completely assed up most of the equipment set up. That being said, in the first instance Black Ops hasn't been much better, though the equipment is a bit better done. The perk systems in both are trash.

I've got high hopes for this as atleast the storyline looks great, but I don't really bother with the campaigns much anymore since the snooze-fest that was MW2. It's pretty sad that half the time I'd just rather play World at War. :/

Any idea what the prestige edition will be packaged with?

[mister-x]

commercials for this one look sick....cant wait

[PitViper]

It looks good, but I gotta be honest the hit recognition in MW2 was garbage and they completely assed up most of the equipment set up.

Man I dunno, the hits in Black Ops are just awful. I seriously don't get it.

You can literally pour a concentrated stream of fire into someone and get hit once in the head and it's over.

The pistols are almost a complete waste of time as it takes me 3 point blank shots to the back of the head to put an enemy down...and that's a Python, so we're talking .44

Shotguns arent far behind pistols.

I deal with it and make the best of it, but still...I'm hoping InfinityWard comes in and rights some wrongs.

[Talisman]

Wait wait...so how does this ensure it keeps "that group" to themselves, and normal ppl who just want to game without the BS to themselves?

It allows the antisocial misanthropes like myself who just want to kill things do so on a reasonable facsimile of a multiplayer experience without dealing with other people.

[Talisman]

Man I dunno, the hits in Black Ops are just awful. I seriously don't get it.

You can literally pour a concentrated stream of fire into someone and get hit once in the head and it's over.

The pistols are almost a complete waste of time as it takes me 3 point blank shots to the back of the head to put an enemy down...and that's a Python, so we're talking .44

Shotguns arent far behind pistols.

I deal with it and make the best of it, but still...I'm hoping InfinityWard comes in and rights some wrongs.

Honestly, I loved the FAMAS in Black Ops. Nice stopping power, decent mag size, and delivered a stream of punishment the likes of which were only equaled by the AK, and I hate AKs. The problem is... it seemed random as to how many of the 30 bullets I emptied into the frakker's head actually registered as hits. Meanwhile, here comes Mr. Superman with a knife, charging right through two 30-round magazines' worth of 5.56 NATO, and stabs me in the face and gets a kill.

I eventually got so tired of this I just gave up and sold the game, which hurts to this day, because I absolutely LOVED it when it worked.

[PitViper]

The problem is... it seemed random as to how many of the 30 bullets I emptied into the frakker's head actually registered as hits. Meanwhile, here comes Mr. Superman with a knife, charging right through two 30-round magazines' worth of 5.56 NATO, and stabs me in the face and gets a kill.
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That's what I'm getting at right there...that and the fact that it seems it sometimes get's stuck on a map. I played Summit 3 times in a row today.

Tie that in to the fact that people are are running through .50 cal fire and hitting me with a tactical knife and I get about 20 min before walking away.

[Trooper13]

Man I dunno, the hits in Black Ops are just awful. I seriously don't get it.

You can literally pour a concentrated stream of fire into someone and get hit once in the head and it's over.

The pistols are almost a complete waste of time as it takes me 3 point blank shots to the back of the head to put an enemy down...and that's a Python, so we're talking .44

Shotguns arent far behind pistols.

I deal with it and make the best of it, but still...I'm hoping InfinityWard comes in and rights some wrongs.

The Python is a .357 magnum. In both games the hit recognition is garbage. Both games are also apparently designed by people who know absolutely NOTHING about the firearms they are putting in the game.

Look at the difference in damage between an M60 and M14 in game. Not on the stat card. Unless someone has last stand on, and M14 will drop them in one shot. An M60 you can pump sometimes up to 10 rounds into someone. Yet they fire the EXACT same round.

As far as the shotguns go half of them aren't effective past 10 ft. in the game, which is completely ridiculous. Also, the range of the Stakeout during in game play, not on the card, is the same as the Olympia, which again, is just insane. A combat shot gun with an 18" barrel and a classic over and under with a 28" barrel behave VERY differently in terms of range and accuracy.

The same held true for MW2, certain weapons get favored, and beefed up beyond their real world means. Others get dumbed down.

As far as hits, I've found that hit problems with Black Ops are of two types. Either for some reason people can soak ALOT of hits that they shouldn't be able to. Or the hits register in the wrong place. The first is complete BS. The second, while frustrating, goes both ways. While it sucks when I get dropped on a half assed sloppy shot, it's gotta suck for the other guy when I shoot him in the elbow and I get credit for a headshot. With MW2 it was just a matter of the hits not counting at all, from my experience. I could unload a whole clip from an MP5 into someone, and they'd run through it and knife me and I'd never get a hit marker. That sh*t gets old really, really fast.

Considering, atleast imo, IW completely assed up ALOT of the class building system that made CoD great with MW2, I don't hold alot of hopes in that regard. Treyarch fixed some of it, but they also held onto some of the crap that really sucked about MW2, aswell.

In the end, I just love good maps. IW usually builds better constructed maps, imo. Though Treyarch has had some really amazing ones here and there. Given that Treyarch has made parts of the maps interactive I hope that is something that IW holds onto. However, something IW missed in MW2, and Treyarch dropped the ball on with Black Ops was vehicles. Hardcore Headquarters on Seelow in W@W was awesome when they added the tanks in.

I loved the look of W@W with it's gritty, dark, artistry. The MW games are usually very washed out. Though since Black Ops has moved away from the W@W look and closer to the MW appearance, it's pointless for me to bitch about that.

I'll get it. There's no way I won't. I'll likely play it for awhile, and get bored with it just like with MW2 and Black Ops. :/

[PitViper]

The Python is a .357 magnum. In both games the hit recognition is garbage. Both games are also apparently designed by people who know absolutely NOTHING about the firearms they are putting in the game.

Look at the difference in damage between an M60 and M14 in game. Not on the stat card. Unless someone has last stand on, and M14 will drop them in one shot. An M60 you can pump sometimes up to 10 rounds into someone. Yet they fire the EXACT same round.

As far as the shotguns go half of them aren't effective past 10 ft. in the game, which is completely ridiculous. Also, the range of the Stakeout during in game play, not on the card, is the same as the Olympia, which again, is just insane. A combat shot gun with an 18" barrel and a classic over and under with a 28" barrel behave VERY differently in terms of range and accuracy.





Wow I always thought the Python was supposed to be a .44, then again I'm pretty sure if it's a .357 and I have it 2 inches from the back of your head, I shouldn't have to pull the trigger 3 damn times to get the job done.

I think the shotguns in MW2 had better range and maybe better hit recognition. I mean it may be "in my head" but on some of the MW2 maps a shotty was my primary weapon of choice, in Black Ops it is almost completely useless....I mean I've tried them all and I just can't find a reason to ever have a shotgun in any of my classes in this game.

I agree 100% about the difference in guns and hit recognition. I am sure we have people playing this game that are gun enthusiasts and are scratching their heads. If you can have programers come on board and desigin a racing game that has a certain car performing how it would actually perform...why the hell can't they get someone to do the same for the firearms?

I don't wanna sit here and bash it, it does have it's fun stuff and it's good points, I just think at this point with the franchise they should work out the little bugs. Really hit recognition and firearm realism isn't "little" not for this game and not at this point. I hope they correct it with MW3.

[OSOK]

ak-47: stopping power and fmj. rips you in half.

[Trooper13]

Wow I always thought the Python was supposed to be a .44, then again I'm pretty sure if it's a .357 and I have it 2 inches from the back of your head, I shouldn't have to pull the trigger 3 damn times to get the job done.

I think the shotguns in MW2 had better range and maybe better hit recognition. I mean it may be "in my head" but on some of the MW2 maps a shotty was my primary weapon of choice, in Black Ops it is almost completely useless....I mean I've tried them all and I just can't find a reason to ever have a shotgun in any of my classes in this game.

I agree 100% about the difference in guns and hit recognition. I am sure we have people playing this game that are gun enthusiasts and are scratching their heads. If you can have programers come on board and desigin a racing game that has a certain car performing how it would actually perform...why the hell can't they get someone to do the same for the firearms?

I don't wanna sit here and bash it, it does have it's fun stuff and it's good points, I just think at this point with the franchise they should work out the little bugs. Really hit recognition and firearm realism isn't "little" not for this game and not at this point. I hope they correct it with MW3.

A good point. I've managed to be doing pretty well with using Shotties Only for the past month. A challenge my son gave me. It took awhile to adapt, but I'm making it work. The shotguns in MW2 were a bit overdone, in some repects, so it seems that perhaps Treyarch was responding to the criticisms in last game and went overboard in neutering them. Take a look at the silenced SPAS-12. I've literally been 3ft. from someone in game, and had to shoot them 3 times before they drop. Totally ridiculous. Hopefully they do find a way to get that realistic happy medium where the shotguns are realistic. Personally I don't understand why the Olympia doesn't have "sawed off" as an "attachment". That would seem like a no brainer to me.

As far as the pistols go they are really, really bizarre. You're right. For some reason the Python and it seems the higher powered pistols seem to do less damage up close. I've had to shoot someone with the .357 4 times when I'm in a room with them, and I use that as my distance weapon since I'm rocking just shotties now. From across a map I can drop someone in one shot, without fail.

The first MW really did alot of things right. While the hit recognition in W@W wasn't quite as good, it's weapons were, for the most part, fairly realistic and well done, and making the vehicles playable was a good move forward. These past two games seem to be concentrating on making giving you uber-customization, and in IW's case making incredible maps, and Treyarchs case making those maps interactive. However, it seems like they've lost sight of some of the things that made the games so much fun in the beginning. Kind of like they picked a couple of areas to focus on, and let the rest of the mechanics fall by the wayside.

I hope this is going to be well done. The game itself looks totally epic. It'll be a shame if they don't make sure the mechanical aspects of the game don't measure up to the amazing subject matter.

[Reymarkable]

time to put in for my vacation now i suppose

lol...gonna be playing MW3 for at least 2 weeks straight...maybe more...gonna have to put it in right now!

[OSOK]

lol...gonna be playing MW3 for at least 2 weeks straight...maybe more...gonna have to put it in right now!
hahaha me as well, i took a week off for modern warfare 2

[beachhead1783]

Not really looking forward to the release of MW3 because it looks exactly like MW2. Sure I want to see what happens in the story line but I will not be playing online on it. I am already playing Black Ops, which is great online, and I am not going to Prestige all these times again, I am getting sick of it. Anyway, I guess I will be going back to MW2 when MW3 comes out.

[Talisman]

So I've been playing CoD4 lately and hopped on Black Ops via a Hastings rental just to see how things were going and because I really wanted to tear up some Zombies.

I'm still inclined to say the former has better hit recognition that the latter, and seems a bit more balanced. Hate the Perk system in the first one though, they really did get much better with MW2 and Black Ops, i.e. not making a Shotgun Grip or Grenade launcher take up a perk slot, C4 and Claymores beign equipment as opposed to perks, making launchers a secondary weapon, etc.

[MeLikeJinx]

I found a used PS3 copy of COD4:MW for $5, so I decided to give this franchise a try for the first time.

1.) Holy crap; how you guys play FPS without a mouse and keyboard? I can't aim for sh** in this game. LOL.

2.) I can't even tell whose on my team... I keep shooting my own guys.

3.) It seems EVERY time I reload my gun I die... I reload my gun a lot. LOL.

4.) Grenades and Dogs... 99% of the time these two things will kill me. LOL.

The sniper mission was cool though!

[Talisman]

Modern Warfare 3 trailer announces 'Strike Package' classes | Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/20/modern-warfare-3-trailer-announces-strike-package-classes/)

I'm now somewhat interested, but I doubt that'll stop those K/D obsessed psychic bastards that manage to dodge every bullet on the map and knife us all.

[Dr. Whom]

I love Modern Warfare 2 by Infinity so I am eager to get this one. I traded in Black Ops as it just was not as good for multiplayer IMO except for the Zombies

[OSOK]

just a few more days...


Official Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Launch Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjCdN_rWCE)

[Nemesis*Prime]

I've already pre-loaded the game from Steam, so I'm set for Tuesday. I'm looking forward to MW3 a lot, because IW is including some great guns for multiplayer and bringing back some favorites from MW4 (G36C and MP5).

[Talisman]

I really wish they'd let you unlock the G36 earlier. It's just too awesome of a gun to go on without for so long.

[OSOK]

I really wish they'd let you unlock the G36 earlier. It's just too awesome of a gun to go on without for so long.
when do you unlock it?!?!? thats the only reason im buying the game

[Talisman]

when do you unlock it?!?!? thats the only reason im buying the game

It's unlocked at Level 42 for Create-A-Class, but it's available with one of the default MP classes with a Red Dot Sight and AG36 grenade launcher.

[OSOK]

It's unlocked at Level 42 for Create-A-Class, but it's available with one of the default MP classes with a Red Dot Sight and AG36 grenade launcher.
oh i see....im trying to decide what game to trade in to help pay for it. i wont be getting it at midnight though

[DESTRO]

Got my PS3 remotes and headset charging, 9 more hours....

[Talisman]

Got my PS3 remotes and headset charging, 9 more hours....

The overlord has spoken.

[rfarrell22]

Got my PS3 remotes and headset charging, 9 more hours....
i need to do this.
thanks for the reminder

[OSOK]

going to get it afterwork, tried to stay up till midnight but i couldnt do it

[B and H Comics]

My TRU was sold out of the xbox version and the wally world I went to had three copies of the xbox version left, about a dozen ps3 versions and 100's of Wii versions.

[OSOK]

so what does everyone think so far?

[ShadowNinja]

Love it. The new york mission kills it. Im like 5-6 missions in it and it says I only have 25 percent done. How long is this thing? Not that Im complaining though. It is 100% better then bf3. bf3 is to dark in some spots.

[galactron22]

I'm diggin this one. LOVE IT!!!!!

[Van Hammer]

I'll probably be getting MW3 very soon.

[drunknmunky]

The player reviews have killed this game. Basically they're saying that it feels more like an add on than a new game. I guess it's nearly identical to MW3 but with different levels. No new graphics, sounds, nothing. But I'll give it a look, at least rent it before I make my judgment.

[ShadowNinja]

when you say identical to mw3 you mean mw2 right? I think it feels like a new game. Better graphics,etc. It puts a nice spin on it and might even be the last mw.

[MeLikeJinx]

The player reviews have killed this game. Basically they're saying that it feels more like an add on than a new game. I guess it's nearly identical to MW3 but with different levels. No new graphics, sounds, nothing. But I'll give it a look, at least rent it before I make my judgment.
Yah, they said MW3 uses the same engine as MW2 and MW1, but that is probably a good thing since if they do that they can keep the framerate locked it at 60fps and tweak the hell out of it to make it look seemingly better since they have been working with that same game engine for 3+ years now and know all the tricks to get the most out of it.

All the reviews pretty much say that Uncharted 3 is the same as Uncharted 2... only better... and it got a handful of 10s, so maybe you don't have to reinvent the wheel to get high scores.

I tried MW1 on the PS3 and didn't like it at all... I simply couldn't aim without a mouse and keyboard. LOL. So I will probably give MW2, Black Ops and MW3 a pass.

[OSOK]

The player reviews have killed this game. Basically they're saying that it feels more like an add on than a new game. I guess it's nearly identical to MW3 but with different levels. No new graphics, sounds, nothing. But I'll give it a look, at least rent it before I make my judgment.

someone on my fb said mw3 is a $60 map pack for mw2 lol

ive enjoyed it so far though :D

[jogunwarrior]

I'll be getting this for Christmas...I wish I didn't have to wait so long!

[drunknmunky]

someone on my fb said mw3 is a $60 map pack for mw2 lol

ive enjoyed it so far though :D

That's what I've heard too. However I just picked it up so I'll check it out tonight.

[ShadowNinja]

I used to be the same way when I first started playing fps's on xbox. I came from the days of doom and played all the way up to counterstrike on the pc before switching so it took me a bit to get used to it but love it now.

>I tried MW1 on the PS3 and didn't like it at all... I simply >couldn't aim without a mouse and keyboard. LOL. So I will >probably give MW2, Black Ops and MW3 a pass.

[drunknmunky]

Been playing the campaign for a couple hours. I'm not really impressed. When MW1 and 2 came out I thought they were amazing. However this one just isn't doing it for me. Every level feels like I've played it before. It really doesn't bring anything new and exciting to the table. It reminds me if Madden. Every year a new one comes out and everyone flocks to buy it. It's exactly the same as last years but nobody cares. That's how this feels. I would think that after 2 years they would have at least done something new and better.

[OSOK]

Been playing the campaign for a couple hours. I'm not really impressed. When MW1 and 2 came out I thought they were amazing. However this one just isn't doing it for me. Every level feels like I've played it before. It really doesn't bring anything new and exciting to the table. It reminds me if Madden. Every year a new one comes out and everyone flocks to buy it. It's exactly the same as last years but nobody cares. That's how this feels. I would think that after 2 years they would have at least done something new and better.
heard the campaign is only 5-6 hrs long

[drunknmunky]

heard the campaign is only 5-6 hrs long

They've all had pretty short campaigns. Hell some people don't even play the campaign. But to me that's how I get familiar with the game, then I go online. But the campaign is just like the last 2. Have one of my characters get shot in the face during a slow mo cut scene? Check. Bust open doors and shoot people in slow mo? Check. Have a chase scene on the roof while sliding down it and avoiding all hell around us? Check.

[SPECTER]

really enjoying this game, hated the MP and every map at first but am becoming ok with it still the worst maps ever in COD imo. Story I really enjoyed also the 4hr 20min length is infinitely better than MW2's 2 & 1/2.

Game could be great if the release 'lag' clears up and maybe they add an old map or two for free that are more open;Overgrown,Backlot,Bloc,Afgan,Crash heck with MW3's maps I would take even Wasteland.

[MeLikeJinx]

I think I may have said something a while back about "BF3 destroying MW3." Yah... never mind. LOL.

It seems MW3 sold 6.5 million... in 24 hours... and is also expected to sell 20 million for the year. Damn.

[drunknmunky]

I've been a big fan of MW since the first one hit 4 years ago. It is actually the game that got me into online gaming. That being said, Infinity Ward is simply playing off their success and refuses to address many of the issues that, in my opinion, really kill the fun of the game.
First, the levels are all tiny. That means the second you spawn people are already shooting at you. I think the fact you can be killed literally the second you spawn is a flaw that should never happen, yet it has been a flaw since the very first MW.
Camping has also been a huge issue that goes hand and hand with the tiny levels. They cater to campers. There is only one or two ways to get from one side of the maps to the other so campers will just wait and pick people off left and right. In a game like Battlefield the levels are way too large to try and camp. You could sit in the same spot and never see anyone pass.
The combination of camping and tiny levels combined with terrible spawn points make for a real nightmare sometimes. That leads me to killstreaks. They seemed fun at first but now are just obnoxious. They basically award camping. Not to mention it makes the game almost unplayable. You die, spawn and then get picked off by a helicopter that hovers around your spawn point. Respawn and watch it happen again. And while you're doing that, the person who got the killstreak is hiding in a corner watching his killstreak get higher as he does absolutely nothing, thus encouraging him to camp even more. It really does get frustrating.
Finally, the kills are so inconstant that you really are just going for the best. I can't tell you how many times I've stabbed someone (which is an instant kill) only to watch the animation of the knife go in, the player keel over, then I die. Watching the kill cam, I watch my player stab nowhere near the enemy as he shoots me and kills me. Not sure how we both seen opposite animations. Add to that the times when I sneak up on an enemy and shoot them multiple times in the back of the head only to have the enemy turn around and kill me with a single shot from a pistol. Or when I use my grenade launcher and hot an enemy and it either A- never even detonates or B- hits the enemy and cause absolutely no damage.
I won't even get into the parts that start to slow down, then the match stops in the middle of a firefight for a ” host migration” only to have the game stopped for up to a minute or longer as the game finds a new host.
All in all the game is fun and will sell tons of copies because of what it is. But the fact that they don't even care top address the flaws after 4 years really bothers me. Battlefield is far from perfect but I prefer the more realistic and way more consistent online gameplay of Battlefield over MW. MW will continue to sell on name alone. However they also have had no competition so they haven't improved anything. But if MW continues to put out games that refuse to address the issues that cripple this game then it will only be a matter of time before someone blows them out of the water.

Sorry, rant over.

[Talisman]

I've been a big fan of MW since the first one hit 4 years ago. It is actually the game that got me into online gaming. That being said, Infinity Ward is simply playing off their success and refuses to address many of the issues that, in my opinion, really kill the fun of the game.
First, the levels are all tiny. That means the second you spawn people are already shooting at you. I think the fact you can be killed literally the second you spawn is a flaw that should never happen, yet it has been a flaw since the very first MW.
Camping has also been a huge issue that goes hand and hand with the tiny levels. They cater to campers. There is only one or two ways to get from one side of the maps to the other so campers will just wait and pick people off left and right. In a game like Battlefield the levels are way too large to try and camp. You could sit in the same spot and never see anyone pass.
The combination of camping and tiny levels combined with terrible spawn points make for a real nightmare sometimes. That leads me to killstreaks. They seemed fun at first but now are just obnoxious. They basically award camping. Not to mention it makes the game almost unplayable. You die, spawn and then get picked off by a helicopter that hovers around your spawn point. Respawn and watch it happen again. And while you're doing that, the person who got the killstreak is hiding in a corner watching his killstreak get higher as he does absolutely nothing, thus encouraging him to camp even more. It really does get frustrating.
Finally, the kills are so inconstant that you really are just going for the best. I can't tell you how many times I've stabbed someone (which is an instant kill) only to watch the animation of the knife go in, the player keel over, then I die. Watching the kill cam, I watch my player stab nowhere near the enemy as he shoots me and kills me. Not sure how we both seen opposite animations. Add to that the times when I sneak up on an enemy and shoot them multiple times in the back of the head only to have the enemy turn around and kill me with a single shot from a pistol. Or when I use my grenade launcher and hot an enemy and it either A- never even detonates or B- hits the enemy and cause absolutely no damage.
I won't even get into the parts that start to slow down, then the match stops in the middle of a firefight for a ” host migration” only to have the game stopped for up to a minute or longer as the game finds a new host.
All in all the game is fun and will sell tons of copies because of what it is. But the fact that they don't even care top address the flaws after 4 years really bothers me. Battlefield is far from perfect but I prefer the more realistic and way more consistent online gameplay of Battlefield over MW. MW will continue to sell on name alone. However they also have had no competition so they haven't improved anything. But if MW continues to put out games that refuse to address the issues that cripple this game then it will only be a matter of time before someone blows them out of the water.

Sorry, rant over.

So then they fixed NOTHING from Black Ops.

Yeah, guess I'm buying Battlefield 3. I'll just rent MW.

[drunknmunky]

So then they fixed NOTHING from Black Ops.

Yeah, guess I'm buying Battlefield 3. I'll just rent MW.

I actually think Black Ops was better. So if you weren't a fan of Black Ops then you might really hate MW3. I do think MW has better graphics than Battlefield but not enough to knock Battlefield. But I think one reason is because Battlefield is so massive that they can't tweak it as much toward graphics. In Battlefield you can actually start the game in a tank, helicopter even a damn fighter jet. Yet those don't really give you an advantage because the game is so balanced. Even in a jet it's hard to get kills because you can see individual people on the map so you're basically making runs back and forth until someone blows your plane up and you (hopefully) parachute to safety. Trust me, Battlefield has its flaws but overall is a much better online experience.

[Talisman]

There were some things about Black Ops that I adored, such as diving and the Credit system, and of course the remarkably accurate bullethose known as the FAMAS, but the rest of it was... eugh.

Then they went and threw all that stuff out. Along with Zombies.

[OSOK]

MW3=Run and Gun

Battlefiled 3=Strategy

or something like that

[ShadowNinja]

The multiplayer maps in MW3 are not as good as the others from past games. I think the gameplay is much better once people get the point of teamplayer dm is to play it as a team , then people will be just fine. BF3 is just to damn dark and although I did like the first map I didnt care to much for the rest. All I wonder about mw3 is how the hell did people get level 70 already and its only been out for three days? Its been out longer I know but Im talking when I noticed this. Please tell me people have more lives to this then just playing a game constantly.

[Ixz72]

I have been reading reviews on this thing and I am seeing as much negative as there is positive. The biggest complaint is the it is too much like MW2 with new maps.

I have been contemplating buying either this game or Battlefield 3. I am a big fan of both series and owned the previous releases.

I started with Battlefield 1942, Vietnam, and almost all the big mods for them. But that was for the PC. I always looked at the Battlefield genre as a PC game because of the mods.

Though they are both shooters, I looked at the MW series as more realistic and BF3 as more arcade. I might hold off on this thing until it goes down in price significantly.

[Talisman]

Though they are both shooters, I looked at the MW series as more realistic and BF3 as more arcade.

Odd, I always saw it as the other way around.

[drunknmunky]

MW3=Run and Gun

Battlefiled 3=Strategy

or something like that

I can agree to that. In MW you can just go around shooting everything. In BF if you try to be a one man army you probably won't last long.

Odd, I always saw it as the other way around.

In the previous incarnations of both games, I would say MW was more realistic. However in the 3rd of each game, Battlefield seems more realistic. It just has a more squad based feel. MW is about mostly 2 man teams. In the real world there aren't 2 man teams that take down while armies. I mean yes there are those moments in BF but it just seems like it does a more realistic job.

[Ixz72]

Odd, I always saw it as the other way around.

The reason I said what I said, is because on the BF series, you are a foot soldier but you can jump in a Tank, Boat, Attack Chopper, Jet Fighter, etc.

The tank, jeep, boat maybe I can see as possibilities. But a Grunt jumping into a jet or attack chopper that kinda seems far fetched.

MW series, you basically, just run and gun.

[KingBiohazerd]

Ps3 KingBiohazerd anyone that wants to add me is more then welcome too. Mw3 is awesome but it taken me a little longer to get use to the maps

[killerloon]

I like the story mode on MW3 and the Multi-player on BF3. MW3 just seems like the same thing all over again. The graphics on BF3 are way better than MW3 especialy the online multi-player. Dont get me wrong MW3 is a good game I enjoyed the story alot. but the multi seems like its lacking and feels cheap. The maps dont feel right. kind of like a bad map pack add on. BF3 is way more intense.

[OSOK]

the destructable enviorments on battlefield are amazing, really changes the game, dont know why the call of duty series wont copy that lol

[Scoop]

I made a thread for the PS3 [HISS] Clan a few days ago. That thread can be found here...

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/video-games/168659-modern-warfare-3-hiss-clan-ps3.html

Please feel free to post your PSN gamer tag so that I can add it to the master list.

Here is the link to the thread about the [HISS] Clan for MW2...

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/video-games/63958-starting-clan-ps3-cod-mw2.html

We had a great turnout during Modern Warware 2, but not so much during Black Ops. It was fun going into a match during MW2 with a whole team of Hisstankers, so I'm hoping to be able to achive that goal once again.

We are intimidating in numbers!

[drunknmunky]

I've never seen a game lag like MW. I swear if I have another ”host migration” in the middle of a firefight I'm going to snap the disk in half. Seriously this is killing my online fun.

[OSOK]

I've never seen a game lag like MW. I swear if I have another ”host migration” in the middle of a firefight I'm going to snap the disk in half. Seriously this is killing my online fun.
i hate that crap too

[drunknmunky]

Funny thing happened while online last night. I was in a game and I had the typical D-bags spouting off during the match. They sounded like a bunch of 12 year olds trying to act cool. So I did what anyone else would do- I set my output to TV (that way my microphone worked but the other people's voice would come out of my TV speakers rather than my headset). Then I put my headset on my 13 month old while he was in his rowdy mood. He was yelling and screaming into the mic for like 5 minutes straight. They left the room pretty quickly lol.

[OSOK]

i love the G36C

[Talisman]

Funny thing happened while online last night. I was in a game and I had the typical D-bags spouting off during the match. They sounded like a bunch of 12 year olds trying to act cool. So I did what anyone else would do- I set my output to TV (that way my microphone worked but the other people's voice would come out of my TV speakers rather than my headset). Then I put my headset on my 13 month old while he was in his rowdy mood. He was yelling and screaming into the mic for like 5 minutes straight. They left the room pretty quickly lol.

You sir win everything forever.

[RogueWingnut]

I just finished my 7th hour of MW3 courtesy of Redbox.
I had been asked by my second job to write a review of the game for publishing and theres going to be very little positives.

[drunknmunky]

The game is a good game by itself. However the fact that all three MWs have been nearly identical really bugs me. It's pretty clear that they only are worried about the online portion of the game. But the fact is even the online is hampered by being repetitive and having tons of flaws. I really think Battlefield outshines MW3. The problem is the average MW player doesn't have the skill for games like Battlefield. Lets face it, MW is mostly played by people who have no concept of teamwork and/or 12 year old annoying ass kids.

[Talisman]

I just finished my 7th hour of MW3 courtesy of Redbox.
I had been asked by my second job to write a review of the game for publishing and theres going to be very little positives.

Who do you write for? I'd like to take a look at some of your work.

The game is a good game by itself. However the fact that all three MWs have been nearly identical really bugs me. It's pretty clear that they only are worried about the online portion of the game. But the fact is even the online is hampered by being repetitive and having tons of flaws. I really think Battlefield outshines MW3. The problem is the average MW player doesn't have the skill for games like Battlefield. Lets face it, MW is mostly played by people who have no concept of teamwork and/or 12 year old annoying ass kids.

Patience plays a lot into it too. As I recall, the average MW3 match is 5-7 minutes, but a BF3 match can go on for upwards of 15 minutes. That's a lot of time for Frat Boy Jackie or Little Timmy to get fragged and sit around respawning. BF3 is not a nub-friendly game by any means, even less so than MW3.

[RogueWingnut]

Who do you write for? I'd like to take a look at some of your work.


I write for a town newspaper that only publishes once a month.
This is my third month doing video games and its a new section they're trying to do to get 'the young readers'. Pay sucks, really no perks except my Redbox rentals for games are covered by them. :)