Renegades Commander's Medical Condition?

[NAJA EMPIRE]

What is the Commander's medical condition causing him to wear the full face shield? I think that I missed a few episodes.

[fireflyguy]

I don't think anyone really knows although I'm guessing tertiary syphilis.

[Griff]

I don't think anyone really knows although I'm guessing tertiary syphilis.

That or he is suffering from bad writing. :D ha ha

[Sgt. Airborne]

Hay fever

[Griff]

Scabies!

[tycondrius]

well I'm guessing its some sort of damage from being in contact with the same virus Airtight was working on ( hence a nod to cobra-la)

[TEMPLAR BAGGINS]

Bieber Fever

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

I don't know but it seems a little hack add in ish.

I mean all this time and NOW is the first mention of this illness. Almost like it was a last minute idea tossed out.

[Troynos]

I don't know but it seems a little hack add in ish.

I mean all this time and NOW is the first mention of this illness. Almost like it was a last minute idea tossed out.

^ This

There was no indication and then BAM, he's so sick he has to wear a breathing mask (a nod to RoC and the mask is a nod to ARAH).

Bad writing.

Especially where it ties into Ripcord and the testing being done on him.

[mr pawn]

He has herpies on his lips and doesn't want the joes making fun of him

[Griff]

He has herpies on his lips and doesn't want the joes making fun of him

guess he shouldnt tongue kiss scarlett so much? BWAHAHAHA

[ero]

That or he is suffering from bad writing. :D ha ha

Exactly.

well I'm guessing its some sort of damage from being in contact with the same virus Airtight was working on ( hence a nod to cobra-la)

Alright, that would make me feel a little better about it.


^ This

There was no indication and then BAM, he's so sick he has to wear a breathing mask (a nod to RoC and the mask is a nod to ARAH).

Bad writing.

Especially where it ties into Ripcord and the testing being done on him.

Whatever happened to a bad guy just wearing a mask 'cuz he's a badass? Now it's always disfigured faces and scars and sickness.

[blackrazor1]

I don't know but it seems a little hack add in ish.

I mean all this time and NOW is the first mention of this illness. Almost like it was a last minute idea tossed out.

You knew something was wrong with him in Episode 1. He had to use a hologram instead of his real face.

Whatever happened to a bad guy just wearing a mask 'cuz he's a badass? Now it's always disfigured faces and scars and sickness.

It's not a new phenomenon. Darth Vader, Dr. Doom, Jason, Phantom of the Opera, Slade, Kane. Even ARAH CC was wearing his mask to cover his disfigurement according to G.I. Jot the Movie.

[ero]

It's not a new phenomenon. Darth Vader, Dr. Doom, Jason, Phantom of the Opera, Slade, Kane. Even ARAH CC was wearing his mask to cover his disfigurement according to G.I. Jot the Movie.

Destro, Zartan, Miles Mayhem, Bane, Harley Quinn, Toy Man, Black Manta, Firefly, Storm Shadow, The Ex-Presidents (Pointe Break -- yeah, I went there), Ghost Face (Scream), Scarecrow, Michael Meyers ...

Also, Freddy Kreuger was burnt to a crisp, and he saw fit not to wear a mask. Hey, if you got it, flaunt it!

[DR.Sin]

^ This

There was no indication and then BAM, he's so sick he has to wear a breathing mask (a nod to RoC and the mask is a nod to ARAH).

Bad writing.

Especially where it ties into Ripcord and the testing being done on him.

wow! I have missed a few episodes. So Ripcord is still alive?

[Griff]

Harley Quinn!

Technically she didnt wear a mask...it was one of those lil eye thingies that robin wears (yes i know they are called a mask but to me a mask covers your face not just makes your eyes white lol.)

The Ex-Presidents (Pointe Break -- yeah, I went there)!
DUDE!!! I can't believe you went there HA HA :D

Also, Freddy Kreuger was burnt to a crisp, and he saw fit not to wear a mask. Hey, if you got it, flaunt it!

Well He was scary enough with out a mask. :D

Watch cc is really wilfred brimley and hes got that mask cause his face is all messed up from the beetus lol

[Black Swan]

Whatever happened to a bad guy just wearing a mask 'cuz he's a badass? Now it's always disfigured faces and scars and sickness.
Like Dr. Claw...

YouTube - ‪Dr claw says i'll get you next time gadget for 3 minutes‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wfto_Ow5jA)

[luigi]

wow! I have missed a few episodes. So Ripcord is still alive?

yeah he's back
with amnesia and bio-viper power lol

[MFJayman]

Well CC may not have been coughing and wheezing prior to Prodigal, but I think it was pretty clear that something wasn't right with his health. I mean, the guy has no hair whatsoever (on his dome or eyebrows), he's pale as chalk and appears slightly greenish or greyish at times, and he keeps half his face perpetually covered by an unsightly half-mask. I'm surprised he hasn't betrayed much worse symptoms than coughing and shortness of breath.

Anyway, I'd wager that his condition might be the result of various medical procedures he has had performed on himself, in a quest to become extra-human. Remember in his character description, it mentioned that he believed humanity was doomed, and something better needed to replace mankind? I'm thinking that he intended to be the first of the new super-humans or entities replacing regular humankind.

[Griff]

Or he was the highschool nerd who got one too many wedgies lol.

[Big IV]

I'm thinking elephant man, he's not scarred but assumes he is and everyone treats him as if he is.

[Flint-wo2]

When cobra commander was younger he did so much cocaine his nose fell off.

[Troynos]

You knew something was wrong with him in Episode 1. He had to use a hologram instead of his real face.


True, but he used the hologram to show the Adam DeCobray persona, not his true self of Cobra Commander. It does beg the question why he used the hologram in the first place and not just take off the mask for public appearances.

Well CC may not have been coughing and wheezing prior to Prodigal, but I think it was pretty clear that something wasn't right with his health. I mean, the guy has no hair whatsoever (on his dome or eyebrows), he's pale as chalk and appears slightly greenish or greyish at times, and he keeps half his face perpetually covered by an unsightly half-mask. I'm surprised he hasn't betrayed much worse symptoms than coughing and shortness of breath.


I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's been shown as something being wrong health wise prior to Prodigal.

None of that points to health issues. I don't recall him looking greenish or greyish at times though.

But even if all that was an indication of health issues, it certainly progressed awfully fast, which is an indication of bad writing.

It should have been alluded to over the course of the series. Coughing fits, weakness of breath.. something..

And it didn't need to be in front of people. Just a simple scene of after the Baroness leaves CC starts coughing or breathing hard. Just some clues laid to show that he was truly sick.

[kennywr22]

Bad writing?? Really? Seriously man it doesn't have to be laid out perfectly or even teased before to be believable that he is sick. Who knows if he hasn't had to wear the helmet before and we didn't see it. It was meant to be a surprise to us viewers anyways. It certainly isn't a sign of bad writing by any stretch.

[MFJayman]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's been shown as something being wrong health wise prior to Prodigal.

None of that points to health issues. I don't recall him looking greenish or greyish at times though.

But even if all that was an indication of health issues, it certainly progressed awfully fast, which is an indication of bad writing.

It should have been alluded to over the course of the series. Coughing fits, weakness of breath.. something..

And it didn't need to be in front of people. Just a simple scene of after the Baroness leaves CC starts coughing or breathing hard. Just some clues laid to show that he was truly sick.


I agree that CC's sickness as displayed in Prodigal would have been well served to be more clearly indicated or hinted at in earlier episodes. I just feel that people are coming down incredibly harshly on the issue. CC's appearance prior to Prodigal always struck me as sickly, similar to some cancer patients.

People have suggested that CC's illness may have been thought up and introduced to the story on short notice, but from what I've seen of the series thus far, that is just difficult for me to believe. I get the general impression that a lot of careful and meticulous thought has gone into the overall story. I can see relatively minor elements being introduced without thorough previous planning, but something as critical as CC having a terminal illness, not so much. I don't rule out the possibility, but at this point I'm inclined to give the writers and editors the benefit of the doubt.

[RenHoek]

We'll just have to find out as we go along.

[MFJayman]

We'll just have to find out as we go along.

I know, I just wish we could get going along a bit sooner. These damn breaks!

Now, are they trying to arrange for the Finale to occur close to the release of the first figures, as well as a DVD, and the start of reruns? Could they coordinate the Finale, figure releases, DVD, and maybe a marathon of the best episodes to kick off reruns, all within a few weeks of one another? I'd like to see something like that.

[blackrazor1]

True, but he used the hologram to show the Adam DeCobray persona, not his true self of Cobra Commander. It does beg the question why he used the hologram in the first place and not just take off the mask for public appearances.



I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he's been shown as something being wrong health wise prior to Prodigal.

None of that points to health issues. I don't recall him looking greenish or greyish at times though.

Remember Zartan's camo suit was intended for CC. He needed to go in public. AFAIK he hasn't been face-to-face with anyone outside his Cobra inner circle.

To me he always looked a little yellowish in skintone. Whatever color you see him as, his skintone didn't look that skintone of a healthy person.

[Troynos]

Of course it's bad writing to just throw out a major plot point out of nowhere. Something like the breath mask should have had build up. As it is, when I watched it, I thought the episodes were again being aired out of order and we hadn't seen the build-up because those episodes hadn't aired.


Zartan's camo-suit and using the hologram hints at CC not being able to go out in public, but that doesn't indicate a lack of good health. It could have been severe scarring, a skin condition or something.

Prior to Prodigal there was no indication that his health was bad.

And to have the first indication be so extreme, that he now requires help breathing, makes it seem like it was just thrown into the plot.

Bad writing.

[RolandofGilead]

There is nothing in the revelation of Cobra Commander's illness that could be attributed to bad writing. That's what a revelation is. Learning something we did not know before. Might as well complain that they didn't tell me Darth Vader was Luke's father before Empire was released. (although I would say making Leia Luke's sister was poorly thought out)

When something is supposed to remain a secret until the writer wants you to know, that's plot, not poor writing skills. The hints were all there anyway.

If CC could take his mask off, then why the phoney public persona of Adam De Cobray? Why does he remain secluded and appear on video screens only for 90% of the series? Why were a frickin half mask in private? Because he has something to hide.

The clues were all there from the beginning. Just because you missed them doesn't make it the writers' fault.

[Troynos]

The clue's don't point to health though. Any number of things could have been why he needed Zartan's camo suit or the half-mask and hologram.

There were no clues that he had problems breathing or anything like that.

The "revelation" was poorly done. It's not the same kind of revelation that the Darth Vader one is. The sickness is something that needs to be built up over time to come to the point where he needs a breathing apparatus.

The clues don't point to him being sickly and needing help breathing. That came out of the blue and it came across that way when watching the episode.

Prior to that, no hint of breathing issues, just hints of some condition that prohibited being seen in public.

Hell, if he had breathing issues, then there was no reason why he couldn't have appeared in public as himself without the hologram. He, as Adam DeCobray, runs a phamaceutical and technological company. If the CEO is publically sick, then it would make sense that the company would attempt some more radical procedures and it would also help the public image of the company.

So if anything, breathing issues are no reason for him to have been using a hologram or needing Zartan's camo-suit.

That points more towards the reptilian skin Cobra-La theory.


So yes, the way the revelation was handled, is the writer's fault. It wasn't a shock like the Darth Vader one, it came across as "wait, did we miss an episode or two".

It would have been very easy to put in earlier episodes that he had breathing issues, and in a way that wouldn't have undermined his control over the Baroness/Destro/etc.. and then the "revelation" that he needs a breathing mask now wouldn't have produced the "did we miss something reaction" and it would have made more sense that the illness was progressing.

Instead the breathing issues, and it being that bad, doesn't mesh up well with what had been presented before.

[Xenos]

I don't know...I'd say it's been pretty obvious from day one that there was SOMETHING wrong with CC, so I don't think that it is out of left field for them to show him in bad health.

[snakeeyes566]

I think people are thinking about it too much. It's a TV show. Take it easy! It will probably be explained over the next few episodes. Besides, I think the writers have done a great job!

[JoeMama]

acne

[PinewoodCobra]

I could go for one of those tasty cobra apple pies right about now.

[blackrazor1]

The clue's don't point to health though. Any number of things could have been why he needed Zartan's camo suit or the half-mask and hologram.

There were no clues that he had problems breathing or anything like that.

The "revelation" was poorly done. It's not the same kind of revelation that the Darth Vader one is. The sickness is something that needs to be built up over time to come to the point where he needs a breathing apparatus.

The clues don't point to him being sickly and needing help breathing. That came out of the blue and it came across that way when watching the episode.

Prior to that, no hint of breathing issues, just hints of some condition that prohibited being seen in public.

Hell, if he had breathing issues, then there was no reason why he couldn't have appeared in public as himself without the hologram. He, as Adam DeCobray, runs a phamaceutical and technological company. If the CEO is publically sick, then it would make sense that the company would attempt some more radical procedures and it would also help the public image of the company.

So if anything, breathing issues are no reason for him to have been using a hologram or needing Zartan's camo-suit.

That points more towards the reptilian skin Cobra-La theory.


So yes, the way the revelation was handled, is the writer's fault. It wasn't a shock like the Darth Vader one, it came across as "wait, did we miss an episode or two".

It would have been very easy to put in earlier episodes that he had breathing issues, and in a way that wouldn't have undermined his control over the Baroness/Destro/etc.. and then the "revelation" that he needs a breathing mask now wouldn't have produced the "did we miss something reaction" and it would have made more sense that the illness was progressing.

Instead the breathing issues, and it being that bad, doesn't mesh up well with what had been presented before.

People walk around with asthma all the time. You don't know unless you see them have an attack. They aren't walking around coughing all the time. For the most part they go about their day like anyone else.

The breathing issues are a symptom of his overall condition, not THE condition. If it was just a breathing condition, he could have been on the list for a lung transplant. Obviously his condition is serious enough that a transplant wasn't an option.