Am I the only one....

[Knighthart]

...that isn't looking forward to this movie.

I read the original run of GI JOE from Marvel in the 80s. I had many many of the toys in the 80s. I watched all the cartoons many times.

Yet this movie doesn't feel like a GI Joe movie. It could have been made into anything else. The costumes are poor. The story leaks prove the plot is weak.

So far this is my impression:

Costumes have Singer's X-men disease. Thats where colorful and unique comic costumes become black leather.

GI JOE: A Real American Hero - it isn't. The producers have decided to remove "American Hero" to push international ticket sales.

Destro leads Cobra? I thought that was Cobra Commander's job.

The drastic changes to characters.

Sorry I'm not feeling it. I just don't understand why we can't get a movie faithful to the original concept.

Studios will tell you it's so they can make a movie that will please everyone. Well maybe those that have never seen or read GI Joe will actually like it when the see the movie that's a honest and straight interpretation of the original concept.

I want to see legions of CGI Hiss Tanks not some real world tank painted black or blue. I want CGI Rattlers and Skystrikers not some repainted F-22s and Warthogs. I want Cobra Soldiers to look like the action figure that's sitting in front of me. Not some film extra in a bunch of Army Surplus gear. We have the special effects technology. It could be in the style like Sky Captain or 300.

My biggest fear is this movie will be just like that 80s version of He-Man and Masters of the Universe. Are we sure this isn't being made by Golan-Globus Productions?

What's everyone else's opinion?

[RockinHard]

I'd be okay with real-world Hiss Tanks and the like if they looked the part. I'd much rather have that than CGI. Marlon Wayans as Ripcord pisses me off to no end. Storm Shadow looks like crap, too. Snake Eyes (?)--the figure looks way cooler.

[COBRACOLLECTOR]

Damm if they did it with the effects and cgi on sum 300 or star wars level it woulda been crazy but hey i cant lie im still gonna go see the one they make anyway and im excited its on its way but im sure they could have really made this a Bigger Movie than what we hear is on the way but ill judge when i see it

[Golobulous]

could not have said it in a better way, i don't even bother with the updates on it any more. it does not appeal to me. you mention x-men i am looking forward to the wolverine movie, that and transformers 2 are what i am looking forward to next summer

[Viper6]

give it a chance i mean maybe if they make one and it blows like the first hulk someone will unscrew it with a revamped II and it might rock?! *desperate face* still its joe...more or less, okay less but ya know ...sienna miller, ray park, eh....could be ok in the end.

[Shin-Gouki]

From what I have seen I am not one bit interested in this movie. However if the previews come out and they look good I will at least give it a chance.

[coola784]

i think its going to flop, i want to give it a chance but they make it look really cheesy. i thaught it was gonna be like what they did with transformers. when i went to go see transformers the special effects were so good that it just made it real yah know? with gijoe i agree that they look dumb in there weak ass costumes and its looks like a bad director who knows nothing about joe is making it.

[TheLongestDay]

sorry to buck the trend but im really excited about this movie,i think after the trailers start coming out many doubters will change their minds.

Yeh they have changed some stuff but then they have to so they can cram it all in under 2 hours-as far as the suits go,we know for a fact that they will have many looks (hell its the perfect way to sell more figures!) and I just cant wait to see the rest.

It will be a popcorn movie,but then as much as i LOVE gi joe,it just wouldnt suit a "saving private ryan" type film and as far as the "international" thing goes...to me and everyone in my country who loves Gi Joe,it first captured our hearts and minds as Action Force:An International Hero!

[Echo7Solo]

What's everyone else's opinion?

Mine? Well I can say this much. I have yet to see the film or anymore than some pics of ONE set of costumes. Do I like everythig about it? NO. But I can go down the list of my favorite films and tell you things that I didn't like or would have done differently.

I'm not going to bash a movie before I've seen it.

[CynthiaCM]

I guess I don't get why everyone's so up in arms over the international nature of the movie. Honestly, I couldn't care less whether they are from America or not. To me, it's a big non-factor.

[Knighthart]

I mentioned CGI Hiss Tanks as it would be easier and more cost effective to do it CGI then try and build real tanks. (Hiss Tanks being so unique and all).

Also, I'm not bashing the film. I'm saying I'm not excited for it. Maybe if they were being more true to the original concept I would be more anxious for its release.

[vadersquest]

When the Transformers movie stuff started to leak I thought it was a big ars turd. I had no hope for that movie. When it came out me and my girl checked it out and what do you know, it was good! I thought for sure she would hate it but I believe she had more fun than I did. My point is, you can not tell what the Joe movie is going to be like until it comes out. Chances are we might, just might get a movie that we will like. Just remember that.

[Gung.Heaux]

what wonderful support of a toyline you all claim to love.
what loyalty.
august '09....stay home.
til august '09....quit whining.

[Golobulous]

yep i'll be at home, with real entertainment "the hisstank"

[Knighthart]

what wonderful support of a toyline you all claim to love.
what loyalty.
august '09....stay home.
til august '09....quit whining.

we do love it and that's why many are worried the movie will be crap.

[spacemonkeymafia]

I hope it kicks some ass....but my gut says "Be Weary Grasshopper"

[Knighthart]

When the Transformers movie stuff started to leak I thought it was a big ars turd. I had no hope for that movie. When it came out me and my girl checked it out and what do you know, it was good! I thought for sure she would hate it but I believe she had more fun than I did. My point is, you can not tell what the Joe movie is going to be like until it comes out. Chances are we might, just might get a movie that we will like. Just remember that.

This is true. I know many Transformers fans that were real up in arms over the movie production then they saw it and actually liked it. I liked it only because I wasn't a Transformers fan and had no way of being upset at the changes.....

But with GI Joe, that's a different story. I don't know if I can let go of 25 years of what I know GI Joe is so I can see the Ang Lee version of it. (i.e. making a HULK reference and how they may have to go back to the drawing board to "re-launch" another GI Joe movie to try and getting it right the second time.

But I will give it a shot. As you can not judge something you've not seen. Again, as I said in the first post, I'm just not anxious for it as I should be.

[Gung.Heaux]

we do love it and that's why many are worried the movie will be crap.

it may be crap.....but it may be great......however, without support, financial support, it wont matter.
i assure you...most non-fans are going to look at this as probably laugh. but it stands no chance if fans just ignore it.

i dont like everything ive seen, but i know ive only seem but a small fraction of what will be.

it has a year and a two months--alot can, and will happen with this movie....weve see a few pics.....if you think you can predict movie success with just those factors.......then youd best get to hollywood and become the best producer in the history of movies.

i love it when some of you say "i think it will suck." you've never sat down with friends to watch a movie that you didnt pick, that you "think sucks" and ended up liking it?

SUPPORT TANKERS, SUPPORT.

[spacemonkeymafia]

This is true. I know many Transformers fans that were real up in arms over the movie production then they saw it and actually liked it. I liked it only because I wasn't a Transformers fan and had no way of being upset at the changes.....

But with GI Joe, that's a different story. I don't know if I can let go of 25 years of what I know GI Joe is so I can see the Ang Lee version of it. (i.e. making a HULK reference and how they may have to go back to the drawing board to "re-launch" another GI Joe movie to try and getting it right the second time.

But I will give it a shot. As you can not judge something you've not seen. Again, as I said in the first post, I'm just not anxious for it as I should be.

I liked TF but wasnt happy with the designs of the Bots and Cons. Still think they could have went with the Blocky Robots I know......

[jjk1120]

I'm just gonna wait & see. It looks ok to me so far, and I remember all the bashing Transformers got until the movie was released. Let's at least wait for a trailer to judge.

[vadersquest]

I agree, lets try and hold off judgment until we see that first trailer.

[Knighthart]

I think Transformers was saved by Peter Cullen. If they hadn't gotten him to reprise his voice of Optimus Prime, it could have gone into the crapper....

[badgumbo]

I'll say I have pretty low expectations thus far, but I hope that I am surprised next year when I see it, and I will see it...because hell, I have been a Joe fan for 25 plus years and I will support it for better or worse. I find some of the casting brilliant and some I find scratching my head. What I have read of the plot sounds...OK...but I still hope that it will all come together in the end.

[Amberbratt]

this movie is going to be Crapp-AY

Sorry! the truth Hurts.

The only way to not be dissapointed.. is......

Pay your money... Walk in sit down and gouge out your eyes with a rusty spoon!

Hahaha J/K

No seriously.....


you should walk in/sneak in/what ever it is u do when u see a movie.


then.. sit down and Enjoy it for what is is.. a super over hyped action block buster aimed at people who want to watch a sci-fi-military movie.

Pretend you have never even heard of G I JOE.

Accept it for what it is. a
"stand alone movie".

then you will not have to be upset or angry.

this is my advice. and to the class of 2008. I have only one bit of advice "Wear sunscreen"

LMAO

[G.I.Eddie]

i can already tell that this movie is not gonna be what i have always been hoping for...and i'll give you an example of why...

lets say i go out to dinner..i order a steak, medium rare...

now, before the waiter even leaves my table he says, "i'll put your order in, but i'm telling you now, the cook will be making your steak well done..."

so, i haven't gotten my steak yet, but with the information i have been given, I KNOW that i WILL NOT like my steak...

are we getting my metophore(sp?)?

[TheLongestDay]

Im a huge Transformers fan,and I was as skeptical as anyone when the 1st pics got released,for starters I was like "why the hell is Optimus a longnose??!!"...but you know what,he has been a long nose a couple of times and what difference did it make to his character anyway??..not a damn thing!

Like I said before the Joes will have many looks,and the way the story is structured as far as i know-this is the beginning of Cobra.

Its a good way to kick off the Joe story for the general public and for us fans it will leave us begging for the sequel.

Ive said this before,but as much as I love gi joe i never thought a movie version would be right as a "saving private ryan" type film,all the things I love about Gi joe are in it in some way:

Snake Eyes in a faithful costume,
Storm Shadow is a badass,
the Arishikage clan,
the Hard Master,
Destro is the leader of M.A.R.S and they have hidden sci-fi type bases all over the world,
Cobra Commander is a scheming evil bastard (not a pussweed),
Nano-mites,
Duke is a respected hard ass who is known for getting the job done,
futuristic Weaponry....

I just dont see why after we KNOW we are getting all this great Joe stuff that a few people are upset over a set of black costumes,the fact that its the origin of Cobra and a few other MINOR changes....

[SportingViper]

What is really disappointing about this movie are the radical changes(according to rumors) they are doing to the characters.Snake-Eyes is a French orphan raised by a Vietnamese ninja clan(like a commustist country would allow a ninja clan to operate)Hawk being British or Scarlett being Australian(Her name is Scarlett because she's from Georgia USA).I would have no problem if they had NEW international characters on the team,but it's incredibly disrespectful to change iconic American characters.It just shows you how destructive a force a liberal, PC ,ashamed to be American Hollywood can be on a American franchise.

[TheLongestDay]

What is really disappointing about this movie are the radical changes(according to rumors) they are doing to the characters.Snake-Eyes is a French orphan raised by a Vietnamese ninja clan(like a commustist country would allow a ninja clan to operate)Hawk being British or Scarlett being Australian(Her name is Scarlett because she's from Georgia USA).I would have no problem if they had NEW international characters on the team,but it's incredibly disrespectful to change iconic American characters.It just shows you how destructive a force a liberal, PC ,ashamed to be American Hollywood can be on a American franchise.

I have a feeling alot of those things have already been corrected...for instance,you dont get an "all american" actor like Dennis Quaid if you are expecting him to try and put on a British accent-plus his blue military uniform (not the jacket and beret) is American style.

[SportingViper]

I have a feeling alot of those things have already been corrected...for instance,you dont get an "all american" actor like Dennis Quaid if you are expecting him to try and put on a British accent-plus his blue military uniform (not the jacket and beret) is American style.

Like I said they are rumors but if true I'll be disappointed.Also i don't recall american military with blue camo uniforms(but again I don't know every single US military uniform).

[Loki41872]

He's refering to the dress uniform that Hawk is wearing in a production shot, which, while close, is NOT a U.S. uniform from ANY branch of the service. It's closer to a British Dress uniform.

[G.I.Eddie]

...It just shows you how destructive a force a liberal, PC ,ashamed to be American Hollywood can be on a American franchise.

american hollywood is just like Montel show Cartman..."whateva, whateva, I DO WHAT I WANT!"

[SportingViper]

He's refering to the dress uniform that Hawk is wearing in a production shot, which, while close, is NOT a U.S. uniform from ANY branch of the service. It's closer to a British Dress uniform.

His and Cover girls blue camo uniform remind me of special police forces uniforms in some countries.Sorta of like the SWAT equivalent for those countries.

[Snake Eyes-Joe Ninja]

I'll say I have pretty low expectations thus far, but I hope that I am surprised next year when I see it, and I will see it...because hell, I have been a Joe fan for 25 plus years and I will support it for better or worse. I find some of the casting brilliant and some I find scratching my head. What I have read of the plot sounds...OK...but I still hope that it will all come together in the end.

Agreed.

i can already tell that this movie is not gonna be what i have always been hoping for...and i'll give you an example of why...

lets say i go out to dinner..i order a steak, medium rare...

now, before the waiter even leaves my table he says, "i'll put your order in, but i'm telling you now, the cook will be making your steak well done..."

so, i haven't gotten my steak yet, but with the information i have been given, I KNOW that i WILL NOT like my steak...

are we getting my metophore(sp?)?

Yessir, and well put.

[Crimson Rage]

I don't think the changes made for this film will have any relation to how 'good' it ends up.

The Avengers movie is a good example. It echoed the brilliant 1960's TV show very closely in terms of concept & style and early reports suggested that fans of the show would appreciate the movie. What did we get? An ugly, charmless mess.

Consequently, I won't automatically treat news of any changes made to GI Joe as being inevitably "bad" for the film.

[TheLongestDay]

Like I said they are rumors but if true I'll be disappointed.Also i don't recall american military with blue camo uniforms(but again I don't know every single US military uniform).

Theres no way Quaid is playing a Brit,i just dont see it

http://www.iesb.net/images/stories/setpictures/dennis_quaidgijoe.jpg

[alexreed]

We have to go into the movie expecting a completely new story and watch it with that eye. Not with our expectation of years of Marvel and 80's cartoon story arcs. Go and watch it as a seperate alternate universe, it doesn't have to change you idea of G.I.Joe. There really isn't much we can do but wank...which is a waste of energy or grab a camera and make our own guirrella film! Just dont ask me to spell check your script. ha ha

[Shin-Gouki]

I'm a huge TF fan, hell I used to run 2005, and while I went into the movie expecting to hate it, I actually liked it. Just not as a TF Movie. If I took myself out of my fandom so to speak and just looked at it as an Action Movie with Robots I liked it a lot.

That being said I Could see that hapening with this movie as well.

[Timberwolf]

I'm ok with changes being made, it is an adaptation, not a translation, but what they are doing to this movie is just awful. A bad director, bad costumes, bad script, etc, etc.

I don't want to see CGI Rattlers and HISS Tanks though. I would have liked a movie grounded in some reality. Think about the HISS, it's a tank with a glass canopy, it goes against the basic concept of a Tank. I would be ok with them using reapprioriated current military vehicles.

The most important thing is the characters and it seems that's where they are screwing up the most. French Snake-Eyes, Korean Storm Shadow, british Hawk.... Why not bring in Red Star or Big Ben, or hell, make up new characters if you want an international flavor, just don't mess with the backgrounds of the existing ones.

Costumes, jesus tap dancing christ, the X-Men suits are awful, the powersuits are even worse. These guys are still military, they should have some kind of military based uniforms for whatever the situation calls, jungle, desert, urban, night.

Snake Eyes is the worst because they failed so bad at actually trying to get it right IMHO. He's wearing a pair of black Dickies with a molded rubber top. It's the first movie, he should be more cammando than Ninja at first. Somebody posted a video of the Delta Force movie, you slap a baklava and some goggles on that outfit, that is a perfect outfit for Snake Eyes. When he's in Ninja gear, I would have used the Spiderman costume as a starting off point, they put neoprene spandex over a molded rubber to give him the definition they want. Then you add some pouches/military webbing, sheaths for knives and swords and boom, you have Snake Eyes.

I hope this has an epic fail of Speed Racer proportions. X-Men, even with the leather costumes worked because the characters were mostly true to the comics. When will Hollywood learn to follow the example of good movies?

[Amberbratt]

I'm a huge TF fan, hell I used to run 2005, and while I went into the movie expecting to hate it, I actually liked it. Just not as a TF Movie. If I took myself out of my fandom so to speak and just looked at it as an Action Movie with Robots I liked it a lot.

That being said I Could see that hapening with this movie as well.



omg.........someone... with an intelligent post... I wonder if he has x-ray vision.. and can fly as well... :D

[Golobulous]

NOPE! think ........doom..............

[Crimson Rage]

NOPE! think ........doom..............

But DOOM wasn't bad because it wasn't like the game. It was just.... bad.

[JoeFanPDX]

I am keeping a wait and see attitude about the movie. We all know it will not be an oscar nominated film. We also know Hollywood has a way of taking your favorite icons and twisting them for mass consumtion. I would say your best voice is your money. If you don't like something don't support it.

[Cobra Jim]

I am going to hold off my opinion until after I see the movie. like with Singer's Xmen, there are things that I am not crazy about, but I think that there has to be some give and take in order to get the movie made. Over all the Xmen movies were okay, they weren't the same as the comics, but the whole spandex thing would have looked wierd in real life.

Based on what I have seen so far I am cautiously optimistic about the film, but I need to see the film as a whole before I make any judgements.

[minstrelboy]

I will go see the movie. I don't pay attention to any of the information leaked or otherwise. With what I have seen or read on this board (the only place I've seen any onfo on it), I doubt I'll be impressed by it.

The problem is that this is, yet again, another botch job by Hollywood that takes a title from a successful tv show, book or whatever, and uses the title, but retains little else from the original concept.

I recently reread G.I. Joe issue 1 from Marvel comics. Now, the cartoon was ridiculous. I like it for nostalgic value, but it was basically a 1/2 hour commercial for the toy line. The comic line, however, was usually pretty great. Issue 1 could have been turned into a movie, with a little bit of imagination, and some back stories as to how the Joe team was developed, and how Cobra formed. I'd even like if it took place within the original 1982 timeline. Something better suited to the original Joe team would have been better regardless.

It won't exceed our expectations, despite what it does in the box office. The only plus, that I can see, is that the toy line will be out in force everywhere. So, I need to start putting away money.