GI Joe Renegades Episode 20 - Prodigal Discussion

[snakeeyes566]

whos ready for some action?
who do you think patient x will be? my guess is ripcord
discuss

[kennywr22]

Going with Billy. Longshot I know.

[snakeeyes566]

Going with Billy. Longshot I know.

might be. hey is this thread the same as yours?

[kennywr22]

Similar. We can use this for tonights episode feedback.

[firefly069]

unfortunately its going to be ripcord. If it proves to be someone else and they keep ripcord dead than I will be even more impressed!!! Hopefully it's a good one, as its the last show for a month.

[blackman2005]

Its Whirlwind Kick Storm Shadow.....

[snakeeyes566]

why does everyone hate ripcord? he's awesome! I just think patient x ripcord because he is getting a figure with lots of new tooling. this probably means that he will either appear in this episode or by the end of the show.

[fireflyguy]

Patient X is Donald trump and they are testing hair implants.

[John_0515]

So far we have:

Ripcord (favorite)
Cobra Commander
Croc Master (my hope is for this one)
Billy
Scarlett's father

Do we have more guesstimates?

[Neuspeaq]

God I HOPE its Croc Master!!!

[John_0515]

God I HOPE its Croc Master!!!

Great minds think alike!

[fireflyguy]

At first when I saw you guys saying Croc Master, I was like, "Whaaaaa??". But it would kinda make sense in light of the Anaconda virus with the scales and all.

[John_0515]

At first when I saw you guys saying Croc Master, I was like, "Whaaaaa??". But it would kinda make sense in light of the Anaconda virus with the scales and all.

Exactly. We have to think in terms of the scales. The last episode was heard Scarlett saying that the Anaconda strain was developed by accident during experimentation on "patient X", while trying to develop "reptilian regenerative powers". If it is Ripcord, he will be saved (100%), and Airtight would have to return in this (or another) episode with the cure in order to fix Ripcord - unless Cobra already has the cure (permanent cure that Airtight is going to work on) so that patient X can be cured. I can't see that happening. Each non-permanent Joe character does a cameo and then that's it. My estimation is that Ripcord will return in Revelations 1 or 2, and patient X is someone else. Out of everyone in the Joe universe, how many people would fit into the category of having "Reptilian Regenerative Powers"?

Croc Master is the first one who comes to mind if Renegades wants to take that route.

[wormser]

ripcord IS croc master!

[John_0515]

ripcord IS croc master!

I'd rather not.

[wormser]

yep. the same way zartan is actually cobra commander. he uses the replicator suit.

[Black Swan]

ripcord IS croc master!
Unsubstantiated fantasies! LIES! LIES! LLIIIIEEEESSSS!




j/k

[John_0515]

After reviewing the earlier threads, the poster choices are:

Cobra Commander
Ripcord
Billy
Croc Master
Scarlett's father
Serpentor (the person)

Others that I tried to figure could be used for patient X are Big Boa, Copperhead and Cobra Eels or something like that.

I'm holding out hope it's not Ripcord.

[gn0s1s]

Patient X is the first of Cobra-La! Aaaaaaaand Renegades goes round and round the bowl, disappearing into the hole with naught but a whimper.

[Slaymaker]

Exactly. We have to think in terms of the scales. The last episode was heard Scarlett saying that the Anaconda strain was developed by accident during experimentation on "patient X", while trying to develop "reptilian regenerative powers". If it is Ripcord, he will be saved (100%), and Airtight would have to return in this (or another) episode with the cure in order to fix Ripcord - unless Cobra already has the cure (permanent cure that Airtight is going to work on) so that patient X can be cured. I can't see that happening. Each non-permanent Joe character does a cameo and then that's it. My estimation is that Ripcord will return in Revelations 1 or 2, and patient X is someone else. Out of everyone in the Joe universe, how many people would fit into the category of having "Reptilian Regenerative Powers"?

Croc Master is the first one who comes to mind if Renegades wants to take that route.

I like your reasoning PLUS I'd like to add another bit - HASBRO is releasing a figure of him in wave 5 or 6! ;)

[wormser]

but isnt croc master just a reptile trainer? i never heard of him being an experiment gone wrong......

[mswi]

anyone think it might be golobulus?

[fireflyguy]

anyone think it might be golobulus?

I really, really, really, really hope not. Really. That's one part of Joe lore I hope isn't resurrected in Renegades.

[John_0515]

but isnt croc master just a reptile trainer? i never heard of him being an experiment gone wrong......

Well, he is a reptile trainer, but this universe they are creating back-stories. Let's see what they come up with here. Either way, it's going to be a new development to whatever character patient X is.

IMO, having Croc Master as patient X would be awesome. If it's Ripcord - which would be the easy way out here, would be a let down.

[Outbackk]

Well, he is a reptile trainer, but this universe they are creating back-stories. Let's see what they come up with here. Either way, it's going to be a new development to whatever character patient X is.

IMO, having Croc Master as patient X would be awesome. If it's Ripcord - which would be the easy way out here, would be a let down.

bingo.

[Adamantite]

anyone think it might be golobulus?


That would totally make my day.

[Cobra Terrorist]

Man, it feels like a long time since I've sat down and watch some Renegades.

I'm really looking forward to this episode, especially with all the speculation about Patient X!

[Cobra Terrorist]

Well, that reveal didn't take too long!

[kennywr22]

Spoiler












Ripcord it is!!

[John_0515]

Just wait

[luigi]

Spoiler












Ripcord it is!!
i know

[doubleblast518]

and they didn't wast any time lol

[snakeeyes566]

wooooooo! ripcord. i knew it

[fireflyguy]

Oh snap! I knew it would be him but I was kinda hoping for someone different.

[Tom-1]

Ooh - Cobra Commander battle (respirator?) mask. : D

Tom

[snakeeyes566]

ok so what happened?

[fireflyguy]

Ooh - Cobra Commander battle (respirator?) mask. : D

Tom

Interesting isn't it?

[Tom-1]

ok so what happened?

Ripcord is 'Patient X' and the team rescued him from a Cobra facility. He is (physically) fine, but they're foreshadowing something wrong with him.

Tom

[John_0515]

Highly disappointed there's no one else

[fireflyguy]

Is that bioviper Ripcord?

Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde? He had regenerative powers......

[fireflyguy]

Dude, it's like the incredible Hulk!

[fireflyguy]

Yay, they finally bring back ANOTHER character they introduced earlier!

[snakeeyes566]

which?

[luigi]

omg lift ticket flying a gunship

[fireflyguy]

which?

Wild Bill.



And they've just introduced Lift Ticket.

[snakeeyes566]

wow!!!!! someone post this episode on youtube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ciasteczko]

Ripcord is 'Patient X' and the team rescued him from a Cobra facility. He is (physically) fine, but they're foreshadowing something wrong with him.

Tom

Lame. I was kinda hoping there'd be something really obviously wrong with him, since that'd be good evidence to start clearing their names with. It'll suck if the series gets put on hiatus/ends before they manage to clear themselves. It'll suck even worse if we get a super rushed ending like Transformers: Animated had, and we don't see what's up with Ripcord until the last episode (but everything somehow gets instantly resolved within 10 minutes anyway).

Ahhh, damn, I hate being Canadian sometimes! I always gotta wait for my Renegades fix, lol.

[luigi]

it gets posted faster here G.I. Joe: Renegades | Watch cartoons online, Watch anime online, English dub anime (http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/g-i-joe-renegades/)

[snakeeyes566]

how did it end?

[luigi]

ripcord joined the joes

[Tom-1]

Crud. Ripcord is back on the team. : /

Cobra Commander's exchange with Mindbender was awesome. He's so ruthless and doesn't even KIND OF take shit from his minions. XD

Tom

[snakeeyes566]

yeah. cool.

[fireflyguy]

I thought it was a good episode. I do hope there is some resolution before the hiatus, but I thought this one was another good show.

[Cobra Terrorist]

omg lift ticket flying a gunship

Ahhhh, that's who that was. I knew it was an old Joe when she specifically said his name. Cool!

EDIT: Cobra Commander kicks ass, especially now that he has the full mask! Definitely my favorite character so far.

[snakeeyes566]

Crud. Ripcord is back on the team. : /

Cobra Commander's exchange with Mindbender was awesome. He's so ruthless and doesn't even KIND OF take shit from his minions. XD

Tom

what was his exchange?

[kjl2381]

That's not Ripcord, it's Firefly!!!

[Tom-1]

what was his exchange?

Short of quoting it, Mindbender's control chip in Ripcord malfunctioned (stopped working) and the Commander insinuated that there would be 'consequences' for his failure... which prompted his giant pet snake Serpentor to rear up (if you remember, CC had him eat a scientist earlier in the series)

Mindbender tried to blackmail CC by saying if he was hurt, he wouldn't be able to help CC with his 'condition'... which prompted CC to acquiesce at first.. then he shot Mindbender with his staff and delivered a little "don't mess with me" type dialogue. XD

Tom

[fireflyguy]

Short of quoting it, Mindbender's control chip in Ripcord malfunctioned (stopped working) and the Commander insinuated that there would be 'consequences' for his failure... which prompted his giant pet snake Serpentor to rear up (if you remember, CC had him eat a scientist earlier in the series)

Mindbender tried to blackmail CC by saying if he was hurt, he wouldn't be able to help CC with his 'condition'... which prompted CC to acquiesce at first.. then he shot Mindbender with his staff and delivered a little "don't mess with me" type dialogue. XD

Tom

At first I thought Mindbender was going to buy it, but then I thought, "No way!" I knew they couldn't kill him off. I actually like his character.

[Tom-1]

At first I thought Mindbender was going to buy it, but then I thought, "No way!" I knew they couldn't kill him off. I actually like his character.

Renegades has taken a BIG step back with this episode - they've shown that even characters who were almost certainly dead can come back or were never dead in the first place. So, from here on out, I'm not really worried that anyone will ever be in danger again unless I see them explode or eaten bit-by-bit by Serpentor. : /

Tom

[MFJayman]

Whooooaa ho hooo! Wow, Ripcord. Well, we certainly saw that coming, didn't we! Now, I actually don't mind Ripcord, and I thought he came out pretty well in this. Struggling against CC's control while in the form of a Bio fighting Duke. I liked him in this.

And hey, I know Ripcord was technically Patient X in this, but it was very interesting seeing how another patient was revealed--CC himself. Cool how he is really beginning to seem frail and sick. Awesome when he lowered that full mask visor down. Loved CC in this!

[edhellman]

could ripcord be zartan impersonating him to trick the joes?

[firefly069]

could ripcord be zartan impersonating him to trick the joes?

doubtful! People were predicting ripcord would come back later in the first series after episode 2 so this was a pretty obvious spoiler. Regardless, I still want to see what happens!

Hopefully someone will post this soon!

[MFJayman]

could ripcord be zartan impersonating him to trick the joes?

I'd say that is definitely a possibility, but I really do thing Ripcord is back. And I'm all for it. As long as he doesn't end up saying "Me likey" or "Boomshakalaka!" every episode or so, I'm happy to see him back on the team. And hey, they finally got that addition to the core Coyote-based team everyone has been clamoring for! And HAHA, it's your beloved Ripcord! :)

[John_0515]

I'm disappointed kind of. At least we had Lift Ticket, and this Ripcord saga is out of the way. Next episode

[luigi]

Ahhhh, that's who that was. I knew it was an old Joe when she specifically said his name. Cool!

EDIT: Cobra Commander kicks ass, especially now that he has the full mask! Definitely my favorite character so far.

i knew the last name thx to the 25th ghost hawk

[Echo7Solo]

look at the bright side...... he might get killed again. Wouldn't that be fun?

[MFJayman]

I'm disappointed kind of. At least we had Lift Ticket, and this Ripcord saga is out of the way. Next episode

Really? I don't know, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Nice blend of Cobra, core Joes, Team Flint (nicely bulked up, by the way), and a Bio Viper that was on the not-so-bad side of the BV coolness/lameness spectrum. And we got to see CC controlling the BV, which was hinted at back in episode 13. Cool how they can now integrate Bio material with both machines and humans.

[fireflyguy]

could ripcord be zartan impersonating him to trick the joes?

No, because Ripcord kept having flashbacks that Zartan wouldn't have been privy to.

[MFJayman]

Hopefully we'll be getting a red jet pack with the Duke figure. Man, he is loving that thing. Every chance he gets he's strapping that thing on. I'm sure if they spotted a kitten stuck in a tree along the way, the first thing Duke would say is, "RB, get me the jet pack, I'm goin' up!" I wonder what the thing runs on, he better start conserving that fuel.

[fireflyguy]

Hopefully we'll be getting a red jet pack with the Duke figure. Man, he is loving that thing. Every chance he gets he's strapping that thing on. I'm sure if they spotted a kitten stuck in a tree along the way, the first thing Duke would say is, "RB, get me the jet pack, I'm goin' up!" I wonder what the thing runs on, he better start conserving that fuel.

I just watched the episode again, and I was thinking the same thing!
The guns on that thing remind me of Predator.

[MFJayman]

I just watched the episode again, and I was thinking the same thing!
The gins on that thing remind me of Predator.


I'm itching to see it again at 10:30 here, I generally like to reserve my opinion about whether I liked, loved or disliked an episode until after a second viewing, but, well...sometimes I just enjoy it straight out, and forget to hold my tongue (or finger tips) about the episode.

Anyway, I wonder why those jet packs aren't seeing wider use, at least amongst Cobra. Seem pretty useful--maybe Duke snagged the prototype from Baroness' chateau.

[Adamantite]

Dammit, Ripcord. Huge letdown for me. And not just in an I-hate-new-ripcord kinda way, but storytelling-wise too. I wanted to believe that they had the balls to actually kill major characters in this show.

[MFJayman]

What sucks is this upcoming month long break. I was getting hopeful, as we got a 4th, then 5th, then 6th episode in a row, that they'd just keep the momentum going, keep the solid episodes rolling (I've liked everything since Shipwrecked, which I wasn't so fond of) right up into the Finale in mid-June. Just keep it rolling and clicking in, HUB, 'cmon! Finale mid-June! And Hasbro, Renegades figures mid-June! (yeah right)

[fireflyguy]

What sucks is this upcoming month long break. I was getting hopeful, as we got a 4th, then 5th, then 6th episode in a row, that they'd just keep the momentum going, keep the solid episodes rolling (I've liked everything since Shipwrecked, which I wasn't so fond of) right up into the Finale in mid-June. Just keep it rolling and clicking in, HUB, 'cmon! Finale mid-June! And Hasbro, Renegades figures mid-June! (yeah right)

Month long break?!? That sucks. I've really been looking forward to new episodes. Now they are breaking the momentum. Why???

[Tom-1]

Maybe they're staggering the episodes so that big year-long hiatus doesn't seem so bad. Then, 'Renegades' can come back after the movie like they said it would! Right?

Right? <: (

Tom

[RenHoek]

Jesus Christ, I haven't seen the last few episodes yet. I just hope Ripcord didn't come back. That would be terrible.

[GI Guppy the third]

The next episode is showing up on my directv guide, so I imagine we get at least one more before the break.

[GI Guppy the third]

As for Ripcord coming back, I don't think it's a bad thing because he's not as annoying as the RoC version.

[fireflyguy]

Maybe they're staggering the episodes so that big year-long hiatus doesn't seem so bad. Then, 'Renegades' can come back after the movie like they said it would! Right?

Right? <: (

Tom

Maybe. It's gonna seem like forever.

[Tom-1]

Maybe. It's gonna seem like forever.

(I was just being an ass, FFG - 'Renegades' is totally cancelled after this season. ;__; )

Tom

[General Hawk]

Maybe they're staggering the episodes so that big year-long hiatus doesn't seem so bad. Then, 'Renegades' can come back after the movie like they said it would! Right?

Right? <: (

Tom

Keep dreaming, Tom! ;)

This episode was pretty good. I do wish they'd kept Ripcord dead, just so it didn't lessen the dramatic moment of that death...that seemed like a perfect way to write that character out, and everyone had guessed he was returning anyway, so it wasn't a major surprise.

That being said, the episode still worked pretty well, and Cobra Commander was absolutely kick ass. Loved his new battle helmet/mask and his whole ultimatum with Mindbender at the end was fantastic.

My full review is up, too.

Episode Twenty – Prodigal | G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://generalsjoes.com/renegades/episode-guide/episode-twenty-prodigal/)

[Super Beast]

Is he still annoying as hell?

[Griff]

Is he still annoying as hell?

yes...he is even more so now. Gawddamnit i am so frelling pissed. all i know is that i feel frelling cheated that frelling not ripcord is alive on gi joke and the awesome peoples autobot is still dead on tf prime. What a ripoff......hey thats not cords new name....RIPOFF. i am so done with gi joke renegades if ripoff stays alive and cliffjumper dont comeback.

[MFJayman]

The next episode is showing up on my directv guide, so I imagine we get at least one more before the break.


That would be fan-flippin-tastic! High five!

I thought I saw June 11 or some such date given for the next ep on msn, so that's what I was going on, thinking there was a break.

Let's just roll right through, with no more breaks, to the Finale, shall we, Hub/Hasbro/Whoeverthef@#k...

[Neuspeaq]

Highly disappointed there's no one elseLameness brother. WE'VE written better, more IMAGINATIVE shit than that :( .

[John_0515]

It's like they gave up in this episode. Ripcord could have gone with Flint and company, and it would have united everyone (hey - Cobra IS screwed up), but instead they leave him with the Joes. Who knows when Ripcord will do his Hulk impression again.

I'm going to write a season of GI JOE cartoons. Where can I submit them so they'll run?

[BigFan_101]

omg lift ticket flying a gunship

Here's a pic of Lift Ticket:

[doubleblast518]

Here's a pic of Lift Ticket:

I'm guessing Jones was Altitude.

[Bryon]

I'm guessing Jones was Altitude.Good thinking! Does anyone have a screencap of Jones?

[Steel Brigade]

I strongly DISLIKED this episode. The writers did everything bad I predicted they'd do after episode 1 ...make Ripcord alive, & make him a jelly viper. THD(

[kennywr22]

Ok. Didn't get to make my review since I came down with a migraine as the episode started. First I would have to say I was at first disappointed that it was ripcord who was patient x. But once I got over that I really liked the episode. I'm glad ripcord is back actually, makes me really glad we have the figure coming. Love cc in this and his full mask is awesome. Loved flints team including lift ticket. Really makes it extra crappy that these teams are forming and its all over in 6 more episodes. The action in this episode again was done wonderfully including the bio viper. Loved when he jumped out and sprouted wings .cool stuff.

[Steel Brigade]

Makes more sense now why Renegades Rip got a figure slot in 30th.

[kennywr22]

Still wondering why the figure is bald though?

[snakeeyes566]

Still wondering why the figure is bald though?

yeah me too. maybe it was an error and the final version will have hair.

[doubleblast518]

Maybe he shaves is head after they remove the chip inside his head?

[Steel Brigade]

Some also theorized that Rip is a Renegades/IDW high-bred, as he is bald in the comics.

[Adamantite]

I'm guessing Jones was Altitude.


Altitude? As in:

'90 Sky Patrol Altitude (http://www.yojoe.com/action/90/altitude.shtml)?
'91 Major Altitude (http://www.yojoe.com/action/91/majoraltitude.shtml)?
'09 Ripcord/Spc. Altitude (http://www.yojoe.com/action/09/spcaltitude.shtml)?

I have yet to see the episode.

[GI Guppy the third]

Personally, I just don't see what's so annoying about the character unless you can't separate Wayans Ripcord from this guy.

I did kind of like how the bio viper went all wingsuit base jumper in this episode.

[doubleblast518]

'90 Sky Patrol Altitude?

John Edward O. Jones

YouTube - G.I. Joe: Renegades Episode Twenty - Clip 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGKjkPWWIsc&feature=player_embedded)

[homer_sapien]

I need to watch it again. Was way to wiped out and kept falling asleep during it.

[edhellman]

I disliked was that Ripcord could control the bio viper by just willing it. Also, I would have hoped the bio viper would look more like a mix between ripcord and the vipers so it was more unique.

Also, why are the joes on the run if ripcord is alive and clearly experimented on by cobra? why didn't flint and lady jaye say anything about that? and why didnt they push ripcord to go see hawk at the end so HE could pardon them? Then the entire US army would be on cobra's ass.

That said, I think it makes a LOT of sense that ripcord is patient x and I really ended up liking his character. He always had a kind of cool design and the bio-viper stuff just makes him more interesting. At first Renegades seemed to be making fun of how lame ripcord has been depicted recently by killing him off, and now they did one better by making the character cool again! I can actually say I like Ripcord more than Roadblock now.

I loved CC and Mindbender in this too. Mindbender rubbed me the wrong way when the series began but he has also become a favorite of mine.

Anyone else REALLY hoping we see CC without any mask by the end of the show? I would love to see his scarring or whatever is with his covered up face. That goes for Snake Eyes too of course.

[edhellman]

OH! and how great was it when the bio viper is attacking everyone and scarlett starts videotaping it? She is so intent on proving how evil cobra is that she would do that instead of lending a hand and fighting! Too funny.

[wormser]

man this show gets worse by the week. now ripcord is a dr jeckly/mr. hyde thing?

[Sgt Major Haley]

I dunno if I was just imagening this, but when Flint and LJ were talking to Rip, and they showed his dossier, the picture attatched was a RED HEADED WHITE GUY!!!!.......

[wormser]

i saw that too

[John_0515]

I dunno if I was just imagening this, but when Flint and LJ were talking to Rip, and they showed his dossier, the picture attatched was a RED HEADED WHITE GUY!!!!.......

After checking, it was the Ripcord on the show, and he had a pair of orange sunglasses on his head.

Maybe they did that on purpose, but it was the Renegades Ripcord all the way.

[General Hawk]

Now that I've digested this for 24 hours or so, I still think bringing Ripcord back takes some of the drama out of the events at the beginning of the series, but on the other hand, I'm not so sure Ripcord is just alive, well, and business as usual.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up dead again, this time for real.

If we get through Episode 26 and he's fully healed and happy, and everyone is hunky dory, I'll feel a bit disappointed that he was brought back, but if they somehow take him out again, or do something else dramatic with his character, the whole process will have redeemed itself.

The fact that I can even hypothosize that he might end up dead again is a credit to the writers, because normally in a kid's show, that wouldn't even be thought of. I do think that is something the writers would do, though.

We shall see. Six episodes and counting...

[kennywr22]

I gotta say I'm really ok with ripcord being back. If they do end up killing him off again I wouldn't be terribly sad but I kinda like the character. I don't want him remaining some hybrid though. If he stays he needs to get rid of the bio viper part. I'm really curious as to what is actually wrong with cc. How sick is he?

[John_0515]

So there are a bunch of questions and directions that Renegades can go in. here are some:

1. Flint's injury. after what happened, will he start to believe in the Joes' innocence? also, is his injury permanent that he won't come back immediately and another person is chosen to lead the hunt? When he does come back what will the story be.

2. Ripcord. No way do they just leave him as be. One or more of the next few episodes has to be about fixing him.

3. Cobra Commander. His illness is interesting. They'll have to come full circle with this to explain what's going on.

Then there are these:

Zartan's status.

Destro and MARS

What else is going to happen?

[doubleblast518]

So there are a bunch of questions and directions that Renegades can go in. here are some:

1. Flint's injury. after what happened, will he start to believe in the Joes' innocence? also, is his injury permanent that he won't come back immediately and another person is chosen to lead the hunt? When he does come back what will the story be.

2. Ripcord. No way do they just leave him as be. One or more of the next few episodes has to be about fixing him.

3. Cobra Commander. His illness is interesting. They'll have to come full circle with this to explain what's going on.

Then there are these:

Zartan's status.

Destro and MARS

What else is going to happen?

Flint will be o.k. just a little bump on the head, but I can still see another team come in with it's own leader cause the general not happy with Falcons progress.

I don't understand why so much hate for Ripcord, everyone seen it coming now everyone acting like it's the end of the world! Get over it! I like him more then I like Tunnel Rat, and when TR told him we didn't like you! I was thinking the same thing about him (more annoying then funny)

Cobra Commander back story would be nice, and can answer a lot of questions.

Zartan is fine no need to do anything with him any time soon, he's with Cobra now along with Major Bludd, Firefly and Storm Shadow.

I hope Destro gets Mars back and leaves Cobra, I would like to have more then one enemy.

[John_0515]

Also, Tomax and Xamot's plans coming up. You know one of the episodes are going to be about that. Here are the 6 remaining episodes:

The Anomaly

Cutting Edge

Cousins

Going Underground

Revelations 1

Revelations 2

My questions here:

Who will show up? If another team comes up, who is the leader? Beachhead? Sgt Slaughter? Can't really improve on Flint.

Is this where Flint and Lady Jaye start getting along? It has to happen sometime.

The Anomaly has something to do with Ripcord, or what?

so many questions, so much time until they're answered.

[wormser]

they are trying to establish too many characters back stories. takes too long to get to some characters.

[fireflyguy]

I just want some resolution to some issues before the hiatus. When it starts back up, I hope they don't deviate too much from the storyline they have going now.

[Sgt Major Haley]

Cousins?? This is either gonna be a SS/Jinx story, or a RB/HD story. But Ill be a lil dissapointed if they go with Hershel Dalton over Lamont Morris as HD, even thought RB has mentioned is cousin Hershel already. Unless there is another pair of Joes that were made related that Im forgetting.

[wormser]

Unless there is another pair of Joes that were made related that Im forgetting.

well baroness and cobra commander are brother and sister so.........

[Jay West]

I'm surprised so many people weren't sure if it was going to be Ripcord or not. The title of the episode was Prodigal. It would have not made sense to name it that and it be someone else.

[firefly069]

I gotta say I'm really ok with ripcord being back. If they do end up killing him off again I wouldn't be terribly sad but I kinda like the character. I don't want him remaining some hybrid though. If he stays he needs to get rid of the bio viper part. I'm really curious as to what is actually wrong with cc. How sick is he?

I agree although it cheapens the death in the first episode, I don't mind him as ripcord as opposed to Marlon Wayans. I really liked this episode and thinks this cartoon is getting better each week. Though, they need the payoff. Hopefully, Ladyjaye, Flint and company will start questioning what is happening now!

[RolandofGilead]

I was really disappointed when all signs started pointing to Ripcords return. I didn't buy it myself, thinking they'd never do that and ruin one of their finest moments. The title changed my mind. I was prepared to be disappointed in the writers for this episode for going the cheap and easy way, but I wasn't. The story was good, the characters' reactions all very honest. Not jubilation, but confusion. Heck, Roadblock had me teared up when he said that they didn't really know him, but his death hit them all hard.


My biggest question is when will Flint get his head out of his ass and start asking some questions. He knows Duke from before the military. He worked with him on the train and saw that some of what they've been saying must have been true. Now he's seen Wallace Weems alive (although he conveniently missed his monster act). Where does he go from here?

[Troynos]

I didn't like Prodigal.

It felt like the episodes were out of order again.

Since when did Cobra Commander have a sickness? That came out of no where.

I did like the full face mask, but how does that fit over the half mask? That bit is odd.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE that Ripcord is a bio-viper hybrid. STUPID!!!

And yeah, when is Flint going to get his head out of his ass? Why was Lady Jaye so quick to dismiss the Bio-Viper? She saw Ripcord become it. The other soldier saw it. So why did she dismiss it?

Was glad that we had a cameo-free episode and the overall storyline moved forward a bit. But it still felt like we missed some vital information somewhere.

When did Cobra Commander get sick? This was the first time he's shown signs of it. It didn't feel right.

[kennywr22]

Well truthfully when we saw cc he was always sitting and and didn't say too much. He had the one big moment with destro which was all the action he did. I can buy the sickness to an extent. The ripcord/bio thing I'm not big on. Was hoping for something a bit different but if they can rid him of it then I'm cool with it.

[RolandofGilead]

I didn't like Prodigal.

It felt like the episodes were out of order again.

Since when did Cobra Commander have a sickness? That came out of no where.

I did like the full face mask, but how does that fit over the half mask? That bit is odd.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE that Ripcord is a bio-viper hybrid. STUPID!!!

And yeah, when is Flint going to get his head out of his ass? Why was Lady Jaye so quick to dismiss the Bio-Viper? She saw Ripcord become it. The other soldier saw it. So why did she dismiss it?

Was glad that we had a cameo-free episode and the overall storyline moved forward a bit. But it still felt like we missed some vital information somewhere.

When did Cobra Commander get sick? This was the first time he's shown signs of it. It didn't feel right.

There was a cameo as Lift Ticket was the pilot who fired on the Bio-Viper.

And Cobra Commander's illness is new to us, but we really haven't seen all that much of him. In fact, there's only been a couple of episodes where he wasn't more than an image on a computer screen. We know he controls that with his DeCobray persona. Why wouldn't he also control who knows he's sick? Showing that kind of weakness could be deadly for someone in his position.

Well truthfully when we saw cc he was always sitting and and didn't say too much. He had the one big moment with destro which was all the action he did. I can buy the sickness to an extent. The ripcord/bio thing I'm not big on. Was hoping for something a bit different but if they can rid him of it then I'm cool with it.

I'm ok with the Ripcord/Bio-Viper thing because it fits in with the story as it's been told so far. And finding out that the Commander is sick fits in as well. The Bio-Vipers and this type of genetic "science" have been Cobra's thing since episode one. Now we know why.

[speedocub]

We were promised that who dies stays dead...I'm quitting.

[Bombardier]

We were promised that who dies stays dead...I'm quitting.

except that we were purposely never shown that he died. No promises broken.


Anyways, Liked Cobra Commander a lot in this ep. And now we know why the figure will come with 2 heads.

[blayze5150]

Good episode. Renegades rocks!

[kennywr22]

You know what rolandofgilead you make a great point. I never really minded the bio vipers like others and now like you said it does make perfect sense why they were creating them and trying to perfect them.

[Troynos]

CC's sickness still came out of left field.

Yeah, he wasn't shown much, but he never showed an inkling of being sick. Now he's needing a breath mask to breath with? That came on all of a sudden.

He's too sick for when it was shown. If the idea was that he's always been sick and the bio-vipers were a way of getting immortality so he wouldn't die, then it should have been sprinkled throughout the series that he was suffering from something. But we never got a hint or a whiff until this episode.

[RolandofGilead]

Like wearing some half mask thing and never appearing in public? Maybe even going so far as to create a phoney digitized persona we could call Adam De Cobray?

[Black Swan]

Finally saw this episode.Ripcord a Bio Viper ! CC is ill! and Lift Ticket cameo to boot. Not exactly one of the better episodes but nice to see Flint and LJ again.

[BCYOJOE]

except that we were purposely never shown that he died. No promises broken.

Exactly, very good point. Even Duke said the same thing. Ripcord didn't die in the first place. Besides, now the Joes got a solid proof. Flint saw him (doubt he'll believe... would probably call him a "Fake Weems" by the Joes on a plot to kill him). In the ended, I can see the Joe team forming against the Cobra.

And yes, we never saw Cobra Commander's condition before, because he is hiding it from everyone else.

I'd love to see toys of...
Snake-eyes with the motorcycle.
Duke with a jet pack.
Roadblock with the Coyote
Wildbill with his Helicopter.

[UMAN]

I thought this episode rocked! Lots of action, tied some things together, great cameos (consider the character list for this episode, not bad).

[Zefram]

I didn't like Prodigal.

It felt like the episodes were out of order again.

Since when did Cobra Commander have a sickness? That came out of no where..

At what point did you look at CC and think there wasn't something wrong with him?

Remember, we've never seen him when he's alone. It's very likely even Baroness, his own right hand, doesn't know his true condition. Think about it, have we ever seen Mindbender and CC alone before? And yet they are always in contact or together. Mindbender acting as private physician their relationship now makes a lot of sense beyond just growing some pie-in-the-sky super-soldiers. .

I did like the full face mask, but how does that fit over the half mask? That bit is odd.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE that Ripcord is a bio-viper hybrid. STUPID!!!

I've seen worse. Honestly, it at least adds a new twist, instead of him just coming back out of nowhere, now he's a plot-critical element, and his goofball demeanor is hiding something a lot darker.

And yeah, when is Flint going to get his head out of his ass? Why was Lady Jaye so quick to dismiss the Bio-Viper? She saw Ripcord become it. The other soldier saw it. So why did she dismiss it?

She didn't dismiss the Bio-Viper. She didn't want Lift Ticket pressing the issue as to why she didn't want to pursue Duke, and used that as some very light blackmail. They could argue they saw something, but nobody at HQ is going to believe a giant blue snot monster that easily.

Also, don't blame Flint this time for what was Duke and Scarlet's fault. They could have e-mailed him the video of Ripcord transforming so he'd know he needed more than handcuffs.

Was glad that we had a cameo-free episode and the overall storyline moved forward a bit. But it still felt like we missed some vital information somewhere.

I didn't get that impression at all. We still don't know what exactly is wrong with CC (although the pieces are coming together, Kimbly claims to have scales from DeCobray, the anaconda strain...) so all we can do is have faith it will be explained. We still have a few eps left.

When did Cobra Commander get sick? This was the first time he's shown signs of it. It didn't feel right.

Again, we've only seen very little of CC, which can be explained by the fact he doesn't let anyone see him except Mindbender.

Also, there's the fact that whatever he has might be progressing, hence the need for the full mask now. He's on the clock and getting desperate now, and that might even give the Joes a critical advantage.

[TheSerpentKing]

Finally caught up and saw this ep on Xfinity. Really enjoyed it. Loved seeing CC in his visor and I like how he handled Mindbender at the end. Mindbender really irritates me so that was pretty fun to watch.

[Griff]

We were promised that who dies stays dead...I'm quitting.

Don't blame ya man. they rbing back fakecord but yet cliffjumper on tf prime is still f'in dead. thats just poop

[Sgt Major Haley]

Well in his defense, Rock is alil more busy then whoever is voicing Rip. But yeah, it was a let down him getting killed off, Cliffjumper has always been one of my favorite Autobots.

[Lody]

So I called Ripcord not being dead a long ass time ago

Just want to remind everyone in case you forgot