Renegades Love Triangle

[John_0515]

What do you prefer?

Snake Eyes + Scarlett

or

Duke + Scarlett

[MFJayman]

Well, apparently she's already yours, John :)

Now, being that I grew up on the cartoon and not the comics, it had always been my impression that there was something going on between Duke and Scarlett, and so that's how I handled it when playing with the toys and what not.

And honestly, I don't think it was until I got back into Joes just a few years ago that I realized that apparently, that relationship was completely "wrong". And it wasn't until I got on the 'Tank that I realized just how WRONG it was.

[Hawkwinter]

Never liked the idea of Scarlett and Snake Eyes, even though I'm a comic guy.

On the other hand, the commanding officer shouldn't be involved with any of his troops. lol.

[GlasgowSmiles]

I prefer SE/Scarlett myself. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up on the cartoon, or maybe it's because I want her to end up with the guy I like more (I mean, granted, in terms of physical type, I guess they are both blond and blue-eyed, but only one of them is a ninja with a pet wolf, and what more could any woman ask for?! Besides, Snake Eyes has the whole masked deal going on, so appearance really becomes a non-issue there. Well, maybe it's an issue for Scarlett. I like to think she's not that shallow, though.)

[edhellman]

Snake Eyes and Scarlett work because they aren't your typical couple. He is the horribly scarred ninja with a wolf and he can't talk but the two of them totally understand each other. Duke and Scarlett are too obvious. If this were a WB show, duke would be the hot fling but snake eyes the one scarlett marries.

Oh come on, who didn't watch Dawson's Creek back in the day!?

There's just something really cute about how Snake Eyes and Scarlett interact.

Anything is better than Duke and the Baroness though...

[Shipwreck]

SE and LJ for me:)

Seriously, Scarlett and SE works because of their backgrounds. end of story.

[Tomax & Xamot]

Personally I always Liked the Duke & Scarlett angle!!! :D

I would like to see Snake-eyes paired up with someone, maybe someone not in the military..... :)

[Bombardier]

Duke and Scarlett

the snake eyes love interest thing is just really creepy. I've never liked it.

[Xenos]

I can understand why they would want to go the Duke/Scarlett route in a TV show, but personally I prefer Scarlett with SE, but it would be hard to do well in anything other then a book or comic.

[Bombardier]

On the other hand, the commanding officer shouldn't be involved with any of his troops. lol.

well technically, Duke is HER troop in Renegades.

[Jmacq1]

Duke and Scarlett

the snake eyes love interest thing is just really creepy. I've never liked it.

What's so creepy about it?

[Angry.Android]

Renegades love triangle? clearly it's

Scarlett/Roadblock/Coyote

I prefer the SE/Scarlett thing over Duke/Scarlett in the comics/oldtoons. However, i get more of a friends or bro/sis vibe from SE and Scarlett in renegades. Also, I dig Duke from the Renegades show (hated him in the OldToons and Comics) so i could kinda dig Scarlett/ Duke in Renegades.

[fireflyguy]

Well, my Joeverse is actually more grounded in the comics, but having said that, I chose Duke and Scarlett for Renegades. Something about SE and Scarlett in Renegades just doesn't seem right to me. IDK if it's because SE seems more of the loner type in Renegades than he normally does or what, but that's the way I'm seeing it.

[Troynos]

Duke and Scarlett

the snake eyes love interest thing is just really creepy. I've never liked it.

^ This

Scarlett had the whole "guilt over getting him injured" thing. How true was her love? Was it motivated by guilt? Trying to make it up to him?


And yeah, I get the SE/Scarlett bro/sis vibe in Renegades as well.

[Neuspeaq]

I think SE should cut open Duke from his crotch to his adam's apple for eyein' his chick; and then join his sword brother in Cobra already :) .

[Troynos]

How come Ripcord's not a choice?


:)

[Jmacq1]

^ This
Scarlett had the whole "guilt over getting him injured" thing. How true was her love? Was it motivated by guilt? Trying to make it up to him?


That's an awful lot of unfounded rationalization. If she were motivated purely by guilt, HE would have dumped HER.

Instead, what we do know is this:

1. She pretty much admitted wanting to jump his bone(s) before the accident. She got offended when he said she reminded him of his sister because she thought it implied he didn't have romantic inclinations towards her. The point being she had already connected with him on a personal level before he was scarred.

2. Pretty much the first thing he did after getting out of the hospital was turn Scarlet away. He made it clear from the get-go that he wasn't going to go for a "pity relationship." They didn't get together romantically speaking until well after that. I think he's a smart enough guy to know if his girl actually cares or if she's just riddled with guilt. Trying to claim he's just too dumb to realize otherwise kind of flies in the face of how perceptive Snake-Eyes is traditionally portrayed as being.

3. There's never been a shred of direct (or really even indirect) evidence that Scarlett is only with Snake-Eyes because she feels guilty. There'd be a LOT more resentment there in the long term if that were the case.

So no, it wasn't "motivated by guilt." He made sure of that.

(Bearing in mind this is all in regards to the Marvel/DDP era comic runs).

[starbuck]

I think both relationships are going nowhere in Renegades.

I personally would like to see Scarlett and Shipwreck hook up, then let it train wreck when Cover Girl shows up.

[Troynos]

I still see guilt as a motivating factor.

Love can make you blind and dumb.

Yeah, Scarlett was attracted to him at the beginning. And he pushed her away.

But overtime he kept pushing her away and isolating himself. Scarlett, I think, saw him isolating himself and blamed herself. This led her to want to be the one that brought him back so to speak.

When she was wounded saving him from SS, around #26, he reacted similar to what she had.

Prior to that there hadn't been any romantic connections between the two, except prior to his wounding.

So these were two wounded souls who felt guilt because they had let the other get hurt. This led to a deeper connection.

[blackrazor1]

I never saw Duke and Scarlett as a couple in the old cartoon. She worried about him a lot, but I never got the sense that they were a couple. The Flint/Lady Jaye and Destro/Baroness relationships seemed more clearly defined. I don't think SE/Scarlett will happen in animated form until they start showing SE without his mask more often. He can't wear that thing 24/7. That was a missed opportunity in ROC too.

[starbuck]

I don't think SE/Scarlett will happen in animated form until they start showing SE without his mask more often. He can't wear that thing 24/7. That was a missed opportunity in ROC too.


I would really enjoy reading the threads after they announce an unmasked SE for the movie... :D

[Xenos]

^ This

Scarlett had the whole "guilt over getting him injured" thing. How true was her love? Was it motivated by guilt? Trying to make it up to him?


And yeah, I get the SE/Scarlett bro/sis vibe in Renegades as well.

The thing is, I think that this is a big plus side to putting SE and Scarlett together. I always liked that in the comic SE was really just a step away from being a bad guy, and that he wasn't really stable. It would make sense that any relationship he were in would also be kind of screwed up. Add in the fact that Scarlett liked him before the accident, and then he got horribly disfigured saving her life, so she feels like she HAS to love him. That all adds up to a much more interesting story then "Blond haired-blue-eyed leader get's the main girl" does.

At the same time though, I think that it's a story that really only works in a book format since it is so hard to get that kind of story across in animation/live action, so if Renegades goes with Scarlett and Duke together, I wouldn't be upset.

[Troynos]

The thing is, I think that this is a big plus side to putting SE and Scarlett together. I always liked that in the comic SE was really just a step away from being a bad guy, and that he wasn't really stable. It would make sense that any relationship he were in would also be kind of screwed up. Add in the fact that Scarlett liked him before the accident, and then he got horribly disfigured saving her life, so she feels like she HAS to love him. That all adds up to a much more interesting story then "Blond haired-blue-eyed leader get's the main girl" does.


Definately more interesting then Duke/Scarlett.

I just always thought Duke/Scarlett made a more natural couple.

[fireflyguy]

Definately more interesting then Duke/Scarlett.

I just always thought Duke/Scarlett made a more natural couple.

Same here. Maybe it's because of some stereotype perpetuated by movies and television, but it just seemed more natural to me as well.

[The L.O.C.]

I prefer the Lady Jaye / Scarlett / Cover Girl love triangle

[Xenos]

Definately more interesting then Duke/Scarlett.

I just always thought Duke/Scarlett made a more natural couple.

I agree 100%, but that's also why I prefer Scarlett to be with Snake Eyes, because it isn't the more natural couple.

[blackrazor1]

Definately more interesting then Duke/Scarlett.

I just always thought Duke/Scarlett made a more natural couple.

SE was pushing it age-wise. Duke would be like dating her dad. I think Scarlett was stable enough not to have daddy issues.

[Troynos]

SE was pushing it age-wise. Duke would be like dating her dad. I think Scarlett was stable enough not to have daddy issues.

I don't know.. I think she probably had daddy issues...

Only girl in a family of rough and tough boys, probably got extra attention from daddy for being the only girl, went out of her way to be "one of the boys" like her brothers.

[blackrazor1]

I don't know.. I think she probably had daddy issues...

Only girl in a family of rough and tough boys, probably got extra attention from daddy for being the only girl, went out of her way to be "one of the boys" like her brothers.

You date daddy when your dad wasn't around. Her dad was in her life and pretty close.

[MFJayman]

i get more of a friends or bro/sis vibe from SE and Scarlett in renegades. Also, I dig Duke from the Renegades show (hated him in the OldToons and Comics) so i could kinda dig Scarlett/ Duke in Renegades.


I too get a bro/sis vibe from the two of them, not so much a romantic vibe.

And speaking of the SE/Scarlett relationship, I’m eager to find out more about it. I’m assuming she was somehow involved in the events surrounding his scarring (not that she caused it, but that she was present when it happened).

I just want some more background, perhaps some flashbacks, for Scarlett. She is still quite a mystery. I would assume that Duke or other characters would have been grilling her a bit more on what’s up with her past and her deep-rooted beef with Cobra, but there’s obviously been no real indication that this sort of discussion has occurred between them, on screen or off. You’d think that, if a lady dragged you unwittingly into the world of trouble that the Joes have found themselves in since episode 1, then that lady would have A LOT of explaining to do.

[MFJayman]

But yeah, I suppose the only romantic relationships that have really been confirmed so far are those of Destro/Baroness and RB/Coyote.

Still waiting for Flint to put the moves on L Jaye (and for her to report it to his superiors as a violation of proper military protocol and etiquette...).

I actually hope they leave the SE/Scarlett/Duke thing uncertain. Maybe throw in a few more hints and innuendo here and there for both relationship scenarios, but not to the point where it’s clear that Scarlett is going to be “with” either one, definitively. That way, fans can take it from there and decide for themselves, in their own take on the Joeverse, who is with who.

[Bombardier]

What's so creepy about it?

umm..the whole red head nibbling on the mangled rotting dangling flesh for starters. lol

plus the fact that he takes advantage of her guilt, he realizes it's a bad idea and he shouldn't get romantically involved with her, but you know she's hot and it's not like he can get anything else...so he allows her emotional confusion and even helps it along.

[Bombardier]

But yeah, I suppose the only romantic relationships that have really been confirmed so far are those of Destro/Baroness and RB/Coyote.

Still waiting for Flint to put the moves on L Jaye (and for her to report it to his superiors as a violation of proper military protocol and etiquette...).

I actually hope they leave the SE/Scarlett/Duke thing uncertain. Maybe throw in a few more hints and innuendo here and there for both relationship scenarios, but not to the point where it’s clear that Scarlett is going to be “with” either one, definitively. That way, fans can take it from there and decide for themselves, in their own take on the Joeverse, who is with who.


Flint and Lady Jaye had a daughter together.

[Trooper13]

I prefer the triangle of SE/Scarlet/Timber...

Honestly, I'd rather they didn't. LJ and Flint becoming a thing is fine, same thing with Destro/Baroness if they really feel the need to put some romance in there. However, I don't really want this to turn into Degrassi Jr. High.

[Scroll142]

i'm just waiting for Flint to come out of the closet. why else is he so obsessed with Duke...

[Jmacq1]

umm..the whole red head nibbling on the mangled rotting dangling flesh for starters. lol

plus the fact that he takes advantage of her guilt, he realizes it's a bad idea and he shouldn't get romantically involved with her, but you know she's hot and it's not like he can get anything else...so he allows her emotional confusion and even helps it along.

Yeah, this has already been addressed. Seems to me some people just like making up unfounded excuses for why they don't like the pairing...and don't feel like disabled/disfigured folks (no matter how heroic they may be) are deserving of attractive partners "because they're ugly."

Dude was living like a monk in the woods before he joined the G.I. Joe team. That's not a guy that gives a crap if he's "getting any" or not.

Once again, if Scarlett were only with him out of guilt...she wouldn't be with him at all. He wouldn't allow it.

[Troynos]

Why wouldn't he?

It's not like SE is a well-adjusted guy.

[VideoViper]

5 year plan: If the show lasts that long.

In traditional TV style drag out the Duke/SEs/Scarlett relationship.

Eventually she chooses, & either SN or Dule goes Rouge.
Just what I would do if I were writting it.

[Troynos]

I wouldn't even put the relationship in if I was writing it.

[fireflyguy]

I wouldn't even put the relationship in if I was writing it.

I agree with this. It's so cliche to have the "hero" get the girl. Media does this to cater to women and nerds, i.e. why Megan Fox was in Transformers. I think that when you're fighting for your life and the lives of others, you don't have time to stop and smooch.

[Tanksmasher]

SE & Scarlett, even if it doesn't offer exciting conversation.

[Trooper13]

I agree with this. It's so cliche to have the "hero" get the girl. Media does this to cater to women and nerds, i.e. why Megan Fox was in Transformers. I think that when you're fighting for your life and the lives of others, you don't have time to stop and smooch.

While on the run, maybe. However, in the real military there is downtime in between missions. That type of angle could be used once Joe becomes an "official" unit, with an HQ. However, while they are on the run it seems like, if they wanted to, it'd be easy enough to build tensions in there, but something always happens to "ruin the moment". In the end, I'm with Troy. Honestly, just leave it out. I'd be fine with them leaving ALL of the romance out. However, if they are going to do it LJ and Flint seems to make the most sense. Destro and Baroness don't even necessarily need to get together. It could always be "there", but not ever happen given how controlling CC is. JMO.

[Troynos]

I can definately see it happening in the Joes setting. The "threat of death" and constant excitement can lead to heightened senses of attraction and such.

Add in the fact that as a secret unit like they are, they're in confined spaces and with eachother basically 24/7.

So it's inevitable that relationships would form. And it's inevitable that a "degrassi junior high" kind of thing could happen with break-ups/hook-ups/hurt feelings/etc..

I'd just leave it out because it's become cliche in a Joe media to have Scarlett with either Duke or SE.

I'm glad RoC went a different direction, even if it was a crappy one. Just because it was different.

I like how IDW is handling it so far. Which is just barely touching on it. Duke likes Scarlett, Scarlett feels beholden to SE (who we don't know is scarred in IDW) for some reason.

Renegades there's been no hint of any kind of romantic relationship between any of the three.

[Trooper13]

Scarlet should hook up with Breaker. lol

[fireflyguy]

Scarlet should hook up with Breaker. lol

Funny! I had a flashback to that awkward hug he gave Scarlett when he met her in that one episode. He obviously seemed to have a crush on her.

[Trooper13]

Funny! I had a flashback to that awkward hug he gave Scarlett when he met her in that one episode. He obviously seemed to have a crush on her.

Yeah. While Scarlet is being portrayed sort of realistically, minus the being a bad ass. The creators aren't being very kind to her. She's been portrayed as self-important, at times cold, incompetent as a leader, and in Breakers case, shallow. She was all about "The Coyote" until she saw what Breaker looked like. Then she turned her nose up at him. Honestly, I don't see where Scarlet is really any prize. Of the Joe women we've seen, being LJ, Scarlet and Jinx, she is the least likeable. Even though the Baroness is evil, she has a better personality. :/

[Troynos]

Yeah. Renegades Scarlett isn't the best portrayal of Scarlett.

I think IDW has the best portrayal of Scarlett.

[Jmacq1]

Renegades there's been no hint of any kind of romantic relationship between any of the three.

I beg to differ. In the "Return of the Arashikage" episodes Jinx certainly seemed to think Scarlett and Snake-Eyes had something going on (or at least did in the past).

[Jmacq1]

Why wouldn't he?

It's not like SE is a well-adjusted guy.

See, I'm also not sure where this whole "He's not a well-adjusted guy" bit is coming from either.

If you actually go back and read through the original Marvel run, Snake-Eyes is extremely well-adjusted when you compare his actions and temperament to what he's been through. Yeah, he's a deadly badass who's not afraid to use intimidation when necessary, but he's portrayed as perfectly sane. Even the rare occasion that he goes "berserk" is a calculated choice, not just Snake-Eyes flying off the handle. Heck, read the letter that provides the narration of #155 (the final Marvel issue)...that's not the voice of an angry vet on the verge of insanity that some of you are making him out to be.

People are trying to make Snake-Eyes sound like he's some sort of grimdark anti-hero, and despite his appearance and skillset, that's not really the case. Arguably that was the whole point of the character in Hama's hands: A portrayal of a guy that endured all sorts of tragedy but whose sense of duty, honor, and country kept him from dropping off the deep end.

I can understand the folks that think romance shouldn't be in G.I. Joe (even if it's been there from the get-go), and yes, I even understand why some people might prefer the Duke/Scarlett pairing even if it's incredibly shallow and cliched (the pairing, not the people). I'll always prefer the Snake-Eyes/Scarlett pairing because I feel it actually enhances and adds to both characters, whereas a Duke/Scarlett pairing doesn't really add anything to either of them. It's bland, cliched, and never really been honestly developed in any of the mediums. They kinda flirt a little in the Sunbow toons, and while they make a big hullabaloo of her "choosing" Duke in Resolute...we don't see the rest of the relationship. There's no actual development. It's just a somewhat poor attempt at an emotional beat in a vacuum.

Otherwise, I don't recall Duke and Scarlett being hinted at being "together" in any of the other comic or toon incarnations.

[Troynos]

I beg to differ. In the "Return of the Arashikage" episodes Jinx certainly seemed to think Scarlett and Snake-Eyes had something going on (or at least did in the past).

I think that was more jealousy over her teacher having a new favorite.

Jinx is younger, a teen, in Renegades, so she'd probably interpret it as "she must be seducing the teacher because no way would he pick her as a favorite student over me".

[Jmacq1]

I think that was more jealousy over her teacher having a new favorite.

Jinx is younger, a teen, in Renegades, so she'd probably interpret it as "she must be seducing the teacher because no way would he pick her as a favorite student over me".

Maybe. Or maybe her intuition was correct and there is/was something going on. The point is that the statement that there's "no evidence" in Renegades is not entirely correct. Even beyond that, there's a lot about the relationship that we don't know yet. While it's certainly not explicitly romantic, neither is it explicitly "sibling-like." (As opposed to RoC where it was flat-out stated that he was like an "older brother" to her).

Heck, the very title of this thread is kind of a misnomer anyway. There is no "Renegades Love Triangle." Or if there is, it's more likely Duke-Lady Jaye-Flint.

[Troynos]

Heck, the very title of this thread is kind of a misnomer anyway. There is no "Renegades Love Triangle." Or if there is, it's more likely Duke-Lady Jaye-Flint.

Good point about that.

But more accurately there isn't anything between LJ and Flint right now, or at least shown.

[Bombardier]

I like how IDW is handling it so far. Which is just barely touching on it. Duke likes Scarlett, Scarlett feels beholden to SE (who we don't know is scarred in IDW) for some reason.

Dude, didn't you read the first several issues of Origins? We know damn sure that Snake Eys is scarred and disfigured in IDW.

[Troynos]

Dude, didn't you read the first several issues of Origins? We know damn sure that Snake Eys is scarred and disfigured in IDW.

Forgot about those.


The odd thing about the early issues of Origins...

How do they relate to the main series? How far before #0/1? Where is Breaker, Rock 'n Roll, Heavy Duty/Roadblock?

[Bombardier]

Forgot about those.


The odd thing about the early issues of Origins...

How do they relate to the main series? How far before #0/1? Where is Breaker, Rock 'n Roll, Heavy Duty/Roadblock?

Very few of the stories directly relate to the main title. It's just an explanation of where SOME of the characters joined the team. I think only the Zartan storyline and the Mad Monk storyline at the end relate to the main title.

[Troynos]

Mad Monk hasn't, as of yet.

Origins was odd like that. But initially it was supposed to be about the formation of the Joe team. Thats what the first arc was supposed to be about.

But not much from that has showed in the main title. Just a bit odd. Still some good stories, so not that big a deal.

But there's some stories missing from the end of Hama's run on Origins (when it became origin stories of the characters) to the start of the main book.

[Moses]

No triangle - just Flint and Duke.

Seriously though, Duke would be more likely to develop something with Lady Jaye. They have some kind of history.

Why does Scarlett need a love interest? She seems a bit too obsessed with cracking Cobra, I think the closest to a love interest in Renegades for her was Breaker. She has a close bond with Snake Eyes, but seems closer to brother/sister than romantic love. And maybe lighten it up with a little flirting with Duke, but being on the run leaves no time for more than that.

[General Hawk]

Yeah. Renegades Scarlett isn't the best portrayal of Scarlett.

I think IDW has the best portrayal of Scarlett.

I actually disagree. While the Renegades Scarlett certainly isn't likeable, that doesn't mean she isn't portrayed "well". Not everyone has a good attitude, and judging by her experiences she's had recently, I can see her with a severe chip on her shoulder, which definitely comes through in the show.

[Monkeywrench]

I prefer SE but it looks like the show was heading towards a Duke relationship but it doesn't matter now cuz the show is dead.

[Trooper13]

I actually disagree. While the Renegades Scarlett certainly isn't likeable, that doesn't mean she isn't portrayed "well". Not everyone has a good attitude, and judging by her experiences she's had recently, I can see her with a severe chip on her shoulder, which definitely comes through in the show.

I agree with this. I may not like the character in the personal sense, meaning, if she were real I wouldn't want to hang out with her. However, I think the way she is being written is just fine. She's a compelling character, and her strengths and weaknesses are well thought out and explored. While I find her well written, she's my least favorite of the females in the personality sense.

I find IDW Scarlet fairly ...meh. She's handled well enough, but I find Chameleon, and Dialtone to be much more engaging characters personally. I find many of the "core" Joes in IDW to be pretty blah, but that's fine. What I love about IDW is they've given us some great new spins on older characters that were more background characters, and some great all new characters. I don't really give a crap about SE, Duke, or Scarlet. They are some of my least favorite characters.

[Trooper13]

I prefer SE but it looks like the show was heading towards a Duke relationship but it doesn't matter now cuz the show is dead.


Maybe Scarlet has an insatiable lust for the dead...

[Jmacq1]

Maybe Scarlet has an insatiable lust for the dead...

So you're saying Scarlet/Zombie Viper?

[edhellman]

I could see them making Snake Eyes and Scarlett brother and sister in the finale but I prefer them as a romantic couple. I think I'm the only one here who finds the cranky Renegades Scarlett the most attractive version in Joe History. What does that say about me?

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[MFJayman]

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^‘Nuff said ;)

But seriously, it’s gonna be pretty sweet when these guys do join together as teammates. I’m guessing in the Finale. Can’t wait.

Now, as for as Duke and Scarlett, I’d at least like to see them become, or head down the path to becoming, rather intimate friends. Not “friends with benefits”, but very close confidants. The fact that their relationship began so acrimoniously and argumentative seems almost a setup for a very close relationship. Think Han and Leia (though without the romantic aspect). And Leia started out as a pushy know-it-all bitch too.

Furthermore, from Duke’s angle, I’d like to think that, if he did come to feel a real attraction to Scarlett, he would realize that there is already a possible romantic past, or present, between SE and Scarlett, and out of his great respect for SE he would restrain his feelings towards Scarlett, instead maintaining a close friendship with her, and never crossing the romantic line. SE would probably pick up on this dynamic, and instead of feeling a pang of jealousy, he would likely feel even more respect for and trust in Duke than he had before. JMO.

[GlasgowSmiles]

Renegades love triangle? clearly it's

Scarlett/Roadblock/Coyote



I think you mean Tunnel Rat/Roadblock/Coyote.

I'll apologize now for any brains I may have broken with that off-hand comment... but they spend a lot of time sniping at each other over RB's relationship with that truck...

[G.I. Jennster]

normally i would say SE and S, but on rens, duke and S hate each other half the time, i think it would make an awesome romance.

[G.I. Jennster]

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and as far as this goes?


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[G.I. Jennster]

I think I'm the only one here who finds the cranky Renegades Scarlett the most attractive version in Joe History. What does that say about me?

and i agree with this. i also like this incarnation of scarlett the best.

[edhellman]

In this weeks episode they certainly continued the love triangle..

Duke spent half the episode staring at Scarlett's ass and at one point someone speaking to Scarlett refers to Duke as "your boy".

At the end, however, Snake Eyes puts his arm around Scarlett and she responds to it. This is when she is thinking about how she lost her father though, so I am a bit worried that they are building up to telling us that she is Snake Eyes' sister.... Better not be the case.

Seriously though, Duke better stop being so obvious with his oggling!!

[wertdog91]

As we saw in The Annaconda Strain there was some kind of bond between Se/Scarlett. So that's cool

[fireflyguy]

As we saw in The Annaconda Strain there was some kind of bond between Se/Scarlett. So that's cool

I'm beginning to think it's more of a big brother type thing, but I could be wrong.

[edhellman]

well, so far we've seen Duke acting like he is into Scarlett but she hasn't actually shown any interest in him..

[Praetorian]

I'll list what's actually happen in Renegades with Snake Eyes and Scarlett because the show is or was not (we'll see what happens with this show) heading her towards Duke... maybe some of you should actually watch Renegades...

They already have a history in the show and in episode Dreadnoks Rising, Duke says, “You put a lot of faith into that mystery man.” and Scarlett replies, “He’s earned it.”

In episode Rage, Tunnel Rat says to Snake Eyes “Hey, your lady is in trouble, I’m guessing you know how to find her right?”

In episode Return of the Arashikage, Jinx says how different Scarlett is from Snake’s other students, how he treats her, and how he cares.

In episode Fire Fight, when Scarlett goes with Snake Eyes on a chopper motorcycle, Tunnel Rat says, “Ah, what can you do, chicks dig the strong totally silent type.” Baroness says to Snake Eyes, “Surrender Ninja, or your girlfriend flies away!” Even Baroness can see something going on between them.

In episode Knockoffs, Roadblock says “You see, now that's what I'm talking about. Snake Eyes and Scarlett, they share bond, a connection.” Zartan says to Scarlett, “Wanna get fragged by your boyfriend? Or would you prefer a self infected wound?”

In episode White Out, Storm Shadow shouts out to Snake Eyes, “and your woman will be the first to fall!”

At the end of episode The Anaconda Strain, Scarlett is remembering her father who’s not alive and Snake Eyes comforts her.

In an interview there was a question asked on the relationships
Q17 — “Are there going to be any ongoing relationships between either Flint and Lady Jaye or Scarlett and Snake Eyes?” – CAPT. GRID-IRON
Henry Gilroy: “Yes and yes. These relationships will be evolving as the series progresses.”

Only true SE/S fans see this and SE/S fans have only had the comics... they have never been shown to be a couple in the cartoons or in the film. Leave the love triangles where they are... in crappy soap operas

[Troynos]

You can't count what an enemy says as evidence of a relationship. The enemy doesn't know the status. It's more often used in a derogatory sense and to try to get a reaction.

Tunnel Rat is joking around.

There's a connection between SE/S and it's brother/sister.

The Q&A answer is right. There is an ongoing relationship, it's just a brother/sister kind.

[Kitchen Viper]

Brother and sister like this, maybe...

http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/leia_luke_skywalker_kiss.jpg

[blayze5150]

Snake Eyes/Scarlett is so much of a better fit. Always has been. A Flint/Duke/ Lady Jaye triangle would be interesting... since it is so obvious and never been tried.

[Kitchen Viper]

Snake Eyes/Scarlett is so much of a better fit. Always has been. A Flint/Duke/ Lady Jaye triangle would be interesting... since it is so obvious and never been tried.

Word. Especially with this version where Flint and Duke are already rivals, and there's a previous friendship between Duke and Lady Jaye; seems like a natural.

[Stitch]

Having recently caught up on all the renegade episodes, the relationship between SE/Scarlett is blurred. In the early episodes, it was implied that there was something there, but in the recent episodes, the flirting has picked up with Duke. The last scene in anaconda strain can go either way as that was something a boyfriend or brother would do. I am in the SE camp, but it just seems easier for the writers to move towards Duke as you can get some dialogue/flirting in. I doubt this show is going to go deeper into the relationships either as this is more of a kid's show so we will probably never have an answer. As a fan of the original cartoon, I wouldn't mind seeing this show become a more adult series along the lines of Resolute.

[Monkeywrench]

I'll list what's actually happen in Renegades with Snake Eyes and Scarlett because the show is or was not (we'll see what happens with this show) heading her towards Duke... maybe some of you should actually watch Renegades...

They already have a history in the show and in episode Dreadnoks Rising, Duke says, “You put a lot of faith into that mystery man.” and Scarlett replies, “He’s earned it.”

In episode Rage, Tunnel Rat says to Snake Eyes “Hey, your lady is in trouble, I’m guessing you know how to find her right?”

In episode Return of the Arashikage, Jinx says how different Scarlett is from Snake’s other students, how he treats her, and how he cares.

In episode Fire Fight, when Scarlett goes with Snake Eyes on a chopper motorcycle, Tunnel Rat says, “Ah, what can you do, chicks dig the strong totally silent type.” Baroness says to Snake Eyes, “Surrender Ninja, or your girlfriend flies away!” Even Baroness can see something going on between them.

In episode Knockoffs, Roadblock says “You see, now that's what I'm talking about. Snake Eyes and Scarlett, they share bond, a connection.” Zartan says to Scarlett, “Wanna get fragged by your boyfriend? Or would you prefer a self infected wound?”

In episode White Out, Storm Shadow shouts out to Snake Eyes, “and your woman will be the first to fall!”

At the end of episode The Anaconda Strain, Scarlett is remembering her father who’s not alive and Snake Eyes comforts her.

In an interview there was a question asked on the relationships
Q17 — “Are there going to be any ongoing relationships between either Flint and Lady Jaye or Scarlett and Snake Eyes?” – CAPT. GRID-IRON
Henry Gilroy: “Yes and yes. These relationships will be evolving as the series progresses.”

Only true SE/S fans see this and SE/S fans have only had the comics... they have never been shown to be a couple in the cartoons or in the film. Leave the love triangles where they are... in crappy soap operas



great post!!

this answers the question

[GlasgowSmiles]

Brother and sister like this, maybe...

http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/leia_luke_skywalker_kiss.jpg

QFT, baby.

That ain't no brother-sister relationship goin' on.

[GI Guppy the third]

It's probably SE and Duke. There's some weird tension going on and it has nothing to do with Scarlet.

[maczero]

double post

[maczero]

Dude, didn't you read the first several issues of Origins? We know damn sure that Snake Eys is scarred and disfigured in IDW.

Forgot about those.How could you forget? The mangling of Snake-Eyes face became comical in that series. Spoilers below:

First he undergoes reconstructive surgery after being injured in combat. While in the hospital, Chimera blows him up. While recuperating from those injuries, Scarlet and Duke snatch him out of another hospital to join the Joes. A doctor tells SE to stay put or his face will never heal. SE say screw that and jumps out of a low flying plane WITHOUT A PARACHUTE. SE does a nasty face plant and gets up to rescue the Joes. While trying to rescue Scarlet, she accidentally (I'm assuming) throws lighter fluid in his face. Chimera shoots at SE and misses but the firing gun ignites the lighter fluid on Snake Eye's face. SE does a really good impression of the Ghost Rider and then falls down what appears to a bottomless shaft.

[Troynos]

How could you forget? The mangling of Snake-Eyes face became comical in that series. Spoilers below:

First he undergoes reconstructive surgery after being injured in combat. While in the hospital, Chimera blows him up. While recuperating for those injuries, Scarlet and Duke snatch him out of another hospital to join the Joes. A doctor tells SE to stay put or his face will never heal. SE say screw that and jumps out of a low flying plane WITHOUT A PARACHUTE.

Yeah, remember now.

Also didn't he get burned again at the end by Chimera before Chimera fell down the elevator shaft?

[bandonov]

Duke and Scarlett!

[edhellman]

did we ever find out who chimera was anyway?

[heymilt]

2 words for ya: Threesome!
Live in the now...

[heymilt]

[QUOTE=
First he undergoes reconstructive surgery after being injured in combat. While in the hospital, Chimera blows him up. While recuperating from those injuries, Scarlet and Duke snatch him out of another hospital to join the Joes. A doctor tells SE to stay put or his face will never heal. SE say screw that and jumps out of a low flying plane WITHOUT A PARACHUTE. SE does a nasty face plant and gets up to rescue the Joes. While trying to rescue Scarlet, she accidentally (I'm assuming) throws lighter fluid in his face. Chimera shoots at SE and misses but the firing gun ignites the lighter fluid on Snake Eye's face. SE does a really good impression of the Ghost Rider and then falls down what appears to a bottomless shaft.[/QUOTE]

*Facepalm*
Reading this will make sure I stay away from Joe comics forever. I thought this was SE not Kenny from South park...

[wormser]

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/WORMSER_2007/gifs/Outofhere.gif

[maczero]

*Facepalm*
Reading this will make sure I stay away from Joe comics forever. I thought this was SE not Kenny from South park...I wish I could say I made that up for laughs but all of that really does happen. That said, you should still give the comics a try. Other than the SE origin and some occasional goofiness in Larry Hama's book, the comics are fairly serious.

[ciasteczko]

I don't know why everyone's giving Tunnel Rat quotes to support pairings. Let's not forget, he suggested he and Roadblock start dating in "Knockoffs". He's just joking around.

Also...

Seriously though, Duke better stop being so obvious with his oggling!!

I hope you're just kidding about the Scarlett ass ogling thing. That screencap you put up was taken from, like, a split second of footage. If we're going to start taking out-of-context screencaps and lines as real evidence...

"You are my property, McCullen."

lmao

[edhellman]

hahahaha

[Spade]

I never saw Duke and Scarlett as a couple in the old cartoon. She worried about him a lot, but I never got the sense that they were a couple.


What? You don't remember Duke saying he was going to kick the mustard out of that hotdog? lol. But scene did make it clear Duke and Scarlet had a thing and it was done in front of Snake-Eyes.

[Trooper13]

How could you forget? The mangling of Snake-Eyes face became comical in that series. Spoilers below:

First he undergoes reconstructive surgery after being injured in combat. While in the hospital, Chimera blows him up. While recuperating from those injuries, Scarlet and Duke snatch him out of another hospital to join the Joes. A doctor tells SE to stay put or his face will never heal. SE say screw that and jumps out of a low flying plane WITHOUT A PARACHUTE. SE does a nasty face plant and gets up to rescue the Joes. While trying to rescue Scarlet, she accidentally (I'm assuming) throws lighter fluid in his face. Chimera shoots at SE and misses but the firing gun ignites the lighter fluid on Snake Eye's face. SE does a really good impression of the Ghost Rider and then falls down what appears to a bottomless shaft.

Yeah, that should have been the first clue that Hama hadn't improved with age. Alot of people dug that arc, the only thing I found at all interesting was the fact that they weren't fighting Cobra. Otherwise the entire thing was really bad, and it went NOOOWWWHHHEERRREE. After that they gave him his old book back. I couldn't believe it. There were some really good, and even a great story in Origins. However, Hama had nothing to do with them, imo. :/