GI Joe Renegades Episode 15 - Whiteout Disscussion

[snakeeyes566]

New gi joe renegades today! Snow job, timber and storm shadow ! Yay! Discuss and please post this as soon as possible on youtube. Thanks!

[RenHoek]

Dang, it ain't even Friday yet. Pretty early to make this thread.

[snakeeyes566]

I'm very excited! We should enjoy the renegades while it lasts

[RolandofGilead]

So how many more episodes do we have left? How many more pauses between new shows?

[Monkeywrench]

what's the point? show isn't going to continue after season 1

[kennywr22]

it is ? based on what? please tell me.

[Xenos]

I think he meant cancelled, not continued.

[snakeeyes566]

lets try and be optimistic about it. a major company like hasbro would never cancel a show when its doing as good as renegades

[RenHoek]

I really, really hope that it is just a hiatus. If they're lying to us... some shit's gonna go down.

[Shin Densetsu]

If anything we can try and at least enjoy the episodes we have left.

[RolandofGilead]

I plan to. But I also expect to get more and more down as the end draws closer.

[snakeeyes566]

just read the titles for the next few episodes. they sound good. after this episode comes Shipwrecked, Castle Destro, and then Union of the Snake

[kennywr22]

Anybody watching? Poor twins . Mindbender is such a prick. Almost ate it. Lol.

[kennywr22]

Wow they even give us a timber Introduction and flashback with frostbite.

[fireflyguy]

Another great episode! I think they just keep getting better. please please don't cancel!!!!!

[kennywr22]

Man I don't care what anyone says the care the writers put into these characters for a kids cartoon is awesome. Why hasbro, why!!!!!

[horseman_4_13]

was i the only one who thought Frostbite should have been Iceburg

[crock master]

wasnt feeling that one either. ehh on the bio vipers

[crock master]

was i the only one who thought Frostbite should have been Iceburg

yeah same here

[RolandofGilead]

Can't wait until I get home to watch.

[Master Thespian]

Decent ep, although I was disappointed to see Snow Job not his usual self. Timber with Snow Job makes sense, too. I like that change. One thing that was weird was that they combined Iceberg Frostbite's name. His snowboard was the same shade of green and blue as Iceberg had on his uniform. Either way, what's up with them killing all the black Joes?! First Ripcord/Static Line now Frostbite/Iceberg!! lol

[drjoejustice]

Well at least we know the Twins are still alive. I wasn't so sure after their last go around. It would be cool for them to escape later on and knock Mindbender around a little bit. Oh yeah and the origin of Timber, probably as close to the original cartoon as possible. Awesome.

[RenHoek]

Great episode. Snake Eyes had quite the fight with Storm Shadow, but it didn't overshadow the rest of the episode. It's nice to Snow Job, he kinda came off as a grumpy hermit in the beginning, but by the end he was coming to be the same Snow Job we know and love. Nice that they left in the original origin of his codename from the filecard. Timber was pretty cool, too. Even if Renegades gets cancelled, I will not stop until I get a Snow Job figure.

[Monkeywrench]

This is the first one that I didn't watch or dvr. I just don't see the point to watch a show that was planned for 5-7 seasons and it gets axed after one. Not feeling it anymore

[RenHoek]

Come on, keep your chin up. Maybe this time they're telling the truth about it being on a hiatus. Or it's an April Fool's joke that they pulled way too early. Or maybe they'll release the rest of the series online. And besides, don't you at least want to see the finale?

[jcast]

Was I the only one who caught the pretty blunt references to the Marvel GI Joe comic story "All Fall Down?"

[RenHoek]

Was I the only one who caught the pretty blunt references to the Marvel GI Joe comic story "All Fall Down?"

Which one was that again?

[rfarrell22]

my dvr didnt record it. anyone else on dish network? i skipped ahead to later tonight and it says the episode originally aired on march 4th. weird. oh well, ill catch it tonight

[Saboteur]

I was actually going to watch this one, because it looked like a good episode. And it does seem like the show was gaining momentum.

But after yesterday's news? Eh. What's the point?

[jcast]

Which one was that again?

Issues number 31-32, where Snake Eyes is attacked by Fred I, Destro, and Firefly in his cabin in the High Sierras. Read if you haven't yet. This episode has some pretty blunt references to it.

[kennywr22]

Yes it was very similar to those issues . Loved that aspect. I immediately thought of those issues while watching . Awesome.

[Firebert]

I like explaining "Snow Job," but what if Ace ever comes (post hiatus)? He was always the poker guy.

[Jay West]

I don't see not watching it b/c of the hiatus news. If this is the only season then it is one heck of a GI Joe mini series. Even if it only gets one season, I'm buying the DVD. It's still a cool story.

[edhellman]

Guessing no new uniform for SS?

[General Hawk]

Yeah, I completely do not understand why people would stop watching it just because it ends after this season. It's still a great story, there's still a good chance that we'll get good closure after the last episode.

Why stop now?

We're still getting a good 10 hours more content than we got for Resolute...

[Saboteur]

Yeah, I completely do not understand why people would stop watching it just because it ends after this season. It's still a great story, there's still a good chance that we'll get good closure after the last episode.

Why stop now?

We're still getting a good 10 hours more content than we got for Resolute...

Speaking for myself. I don't care to get attached to something that's been given the axe before it's first season has even finished. It's not worth the headache to me to get pissed off about something that can't be changed. Pick your battles.

[fireflyguy]

my dvr didnt record it. anyone else on dish network? i skipped ahead to later tonight and it says the episode originally aired on march 4th. weird. oh well, ill catch it tonight

Yeah, I noticed this. I set my DVR to record "New" episodes, and I guess because it wasn't listed as "New", it didn't record. My boys and I watched the last half of the episode, which we thought was great by the way, and I set the DVR to record the episode later tonight, so we can watch it again and again!

[General Hawk]

Speaking for myself. I don't care to get attached to something that's been given the axe before it's first season has even finished. It's not worth the headache to me to get pissed off about something that can't be changed. Pick your battles.

I'm already attached, so I guess I just might as well go whole hog... and I think I can watch it without getting any more pissed off than I already am.

Guess the way I see it is, I'm already attached, I'm already pissed off, might as well get a few more hours entertainment out of it. :D

[General Hawk]

Yeah, I noticed this. I set my DVR to record "New" episodes, and I guess because it wasn't listed as "New", it didn't record. My boys and I watched the last half of the episode, which we thought was great by the way, and I set the DVR to record the episode later tonight, so we can watch it again and again!

Yeah, something was flakey. If you remember, MSN TV initially said this episode was slated to air March 4th, but then it got pushed back and shuffled around. That shuffle makes sense now, because it was originally going to air before "Brothers of Light", but considering the Twins are in it, that would have been... strange.

[kennywr22]

I was originally so pissed I was going to stop watching just because I couldn't stand the fact it wasn't going to continue but then I realized I enjoy it so much and the staff that put it together had nothing to do with it getting axed and they deserve the respect. But I admit I get real pissed when I start thinking about it.

[Saboteur]

I'm already attached, so I guess I just might as well go whole hog... and I think I can watch it without getting any more pissed off than I already am.

Guess the way I see it is, I'm already attached, I'm already pissed off, might as well get a few more hours entertainment out of it. :D

You're a glutton for punishment.

Actually, I'm going to try to catch the Snow Job episode later tonight because it looked like a good episode.

[RenHoek]

I like explaining "Snow Job," but what if Ace ever comes (post hiatus)? He was always the poker guy.

If Ace comes, it will probably be in this season. However, if he doesn't, there may be a good chance he'll never appear at all, considering how the series could quite possibly end after the last episode of this season.

[80sKid]

I was originally so pissed I was going to stop watching just because I couldn't stand the fact it wasn't going to continue but then I realized I enjoy it so much and the staff that put it together had nothing to do with it getting axed and they deserve the respect. But I admit I get real pissed when I start thinking about it.

I agree the people that make the show had no control over the hiatus, I am sure they are bummed too. I mean think about it they all just lost their jobs today! BUT I say we should boycott the show as a way of showing how much we want to watch it. If they see no viewers that will send a crazy sign to them, they might not read blogs but if they get no viewers they will know we mean business. Also I hope all of you going to the Con bring pitchforks and torches and give them hell for this blasphemy! ...Really wanted to see snowjob too but nope I'm done with this horse hockey!

[Scatman]

BUT I say we should boycott the show as a way of showing how much we want to watch it. If they see no viewers that will send a crazy sign to them, they might not read blogs but if they get no viewers they will know we mean business.

This is probably the exact opposite of what we should do. If this show has no viewers, then what hope is there of Hasbro actually making a season 2? If the viewership suddenly rises for the last few episodes and reruns of the show have good ratings, then they'll be more likely to bring Renegades back.

[General Hawk]

The review for Episode 15 is up!

Episode Fifteen – Whiteout | G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://generalsjoes.com/renegades/episode-guide/season-one/episode-fifteen-whiteout/)

[firefly069]

This is probably the exact opposite of what we should do. If this show has no viewers, then what hope is there of Hasbro actually making a season 2? If the viewership suddenly rises for the last few episodes and reruns of the show have good ratings, then they'll be more likely to bring Renegades back.

Agreed! Furthermore if they make a DVD and enough people buy it that would be a good help. I would buy one if it was reasonably priced. I enjoy the show and 26 episodes is a decent number. Though it's a shame if they don't do a second season as a lot of the episodes are introductory episodes.

I wonder if the introduction and back stories of so many characters right at the beginning hurt the momentum of the show.

[General Hawk]

You're a glutton for punishment.

Actually, I'm going to try to catch the Snow Job episode later tonight because it looked like a good episode.

Actually, yeah, it was a really good episode. Great action, good characterization.

Check it out, you'll enjoy it.

[RenHoek]

You know, I was pleasantly surprised at how the Shadow-Vipers were handled in this episode. It was nice to see exactly how they work in coordination with Tomax and Xamot's powers. I just hope Mindbender lets them loose enough so that they can form an escape plan. Of course, this may not happen in this season, and judging by how things are looking right now, may not happen at all.

[jcast]

The review for Episode 15 is up!

Episode Fifteen – Whiteout | G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://generalsjoes.com/renegades/episode-guide/season-one/episode-fifteen-whiteout/)

I'm surprised Justin; no mention of the "All Fall Down" references?

[BlackCross]

This was a great episode. Maybe my favorite. If every episode was this good the show would be a hit.

Overall, the series has been kind of meh. But it has a lot of potential. This is the first time Cobra has felt like a real threat to the Joes and the world.

[07GT500 COBRA]

Good episode.

I'm disheartened by the hiatus news as well, but I'm gonna stick with the series and buy it on DVD.

[Sgt Major Haley]

yeah same here

ditto

[GlasgowSmiles]

I enjoyed the episode. Not one of my very favourites, but still a lot of fun, and I liked the treatment of Snow Job-- he had a dynamic arc in terms of character development, where we saw his old self, his depressed hermit phase, and his start towards recovery. I'd like to think that, even if we never get to see it, once the Joes are cleared, he'll be re-upping so that he can be one of the first to join the all-out fight against Cobra.

Plus, Timber! Definitely one of my favourite parts of the episode.

Well, that and the flashback of Tunnel Rat sleeping in...

(the one thing that bothered me-- every single one of them should have been able to recognize a Morse code SOS. For crying out loud, it's SOS! It's not hard! But I guess they have to have a reason to have someone say it out loud for any kids in the viewing audience who weren't in the scouts or something...)

[General Hawk]

I'm surprised Justin; no mention of the "All Fall Down" references?

You know, I wondered that as I was watching it, but still not sure there were that many influences...at least consciously. Yeah, there's the cabin, yeah there are the grenades and the trap door...

Well...it might bear worth mentioning.

[homer_sapien]

Good episode.

I'm disheartened by the hiatus news as well, but I'm gonna stick with the series and buy it on DVD.

Same for me.

[KushViper]

it was a pretty good episode. Too bad about the apparent cancelation, this series is just starting to really heat up.

Dear Hasbro,

Thank you for creating G I Joe and fuck you for screwing it up.

Love,

Kush

[Saboteur]

It was a good episode.

I'm wondering, with the "hiatius" if Hasbro doesn't pull the remaining episodes from this season from syndication, forcing fans to wait for the DVD some next year to see the entire season.

[Zefram]

Man I don't care what anyone says the care the writers put into these characters for a kids cartoon is awesome. Why hasbro, why!!!!!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Desu/ef9eb2917fbd252c2fad43a71f0bd813122.jpg

Either way, what's up with them killing all the black Joes?! First Ripcord/Static Line now Frostbite/Iceberg!! lol

Black Dude Dies First - Television Tropes & Idioms (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackDudeDiesFirst)

Unfortunate Implications - Television Tropes & Idioms (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnfortunateImplications)

Yeah, I completely do not understand why people would stop watching it just because it ends after this season. It's still a great story, there's still a good chance that we'll get good closure after the last episode.

Why stop now?

We're still getting a good 10 hours more content than we got for Resolute...

Because if the series was let go prematurely then it might turn out you're investing your time into a series and characters that may not get the resolution they would otherwise have gotten. Nobody wants to keep getting emotionally invested in a series with no ending. If Farscape didn't have The Peacekeeper Wars to close it out, there's no way I would ever recommend it to anyone. If Firefly didn't have Serenity, same deal, because you'd all this time becoming emotionally invested in these characters and never see what becomes of them.

If the first season is set up like an anime, where the season is a self-contained story with some kind of resolution at the end, but with room for future stories, then it's a little different. If it goes out on the promise of greater things, then it's just painful. Anyone remember Exo-Squad?

[canadiandawg]

I've enjoyed the series but the only thing that bothers me is the bio-viperes/shadow vipers. How far in the future is this continuity?! They've done a good job developing characters and showing who they are before they become part of either side.

[homer_sapien]

I've enjoyed the series but the only thing that bothers me is the bio-viperes/shadow vipers.

Every time they hack their way through some Bio- Vipers I can't help thinking how cool it would be if they were B.A.T.s instead.

[fireflyguy]

Every time they hack their way through some Bio- Vipers I can't help thinking how cool it would be if they were B.A.T.s instead.

Yeah, this is the only thing that bothers me about the series, and it's certainly not a deal-breaker. But everything else seems somewhat realistic/plausible.

[WildWeaselZ06]

Um, if nobody watches in the boycott they're talking about. It will kill the series. They don't renew low rated shows.

[Tony_Bacala]

Another good one.

They are gonna get all the slower stuff out of the way, do all the intros, then stop. Sonofa!

Hopefully whatever comes after this sticks with continuity somewhat.

[jcast]

You know, I wondered that as I was watching it, but still not sure there were that many influences...at least consciously. Yeah, there's the cabin, yeah there are the grenades and the trap door...

Well...it might bear worth mentioning.

Never mind that Snow Job throws a satchel charge into the cabin from on top of the roof, just like Firefly did in the original story.

[Spade]

Another black Joe bites the dust. Well at least Doc is still alive.

[RenHoek]

Don't forget Roadblock and Stalker.

[John_0515]

Don't forget Roadblock and Stalker.

I'd say they killed off Frostbite and Iceberg in one fell swoop. The black arctic trooper was Iceberg. They somehow combined the two, or just made a blatant mistake.

They're just taking liberties at this point with minor characters.

I also almost believed that Snow Job was going to become a regular in the group. That would have kicked ass since he's just about everyone's perennial favorite.

[RenHoek]

I'm beginning to think they combined Iceberg and Frostbite together on purpose. I mean, we already need one snow trooper. Why not put the other 2 main snow troopers together into one character and kill 'em off as part of Snow Job's backstory. BAM, 2 less characters you have to introduce.

[General Hawk]

I hate to say it, but the Bio-Vipers are kind of growing on me...especially in this episode.

The way Snake Eyes tore them up with his sword was pretty brutal...I'm not sure it would have had the same effect with robots, and they sure as hell couldn't do that with humans...

[Saboteur]

Did anyone else notice when the Joes were evading the Canadian officials, they were all being tossed around in the cab, except Snake Eyes. Cool as a cucumber. Thought that was funny.

[Fox]

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.

[John_0515]

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.

As if ending the show didn't ruin it enough for us.

[John_0515]

I'm beginning to think they combined Iceberg and Frostbite together on purpose. I mean, we already need one snow trooper. Why not put the other 2 main snow troopers together into one character and kill 'em off as part of Snow Job's backstory. BAM, 2 less characters you have to introduce.

Maybe. Who knows. I'm grateful for whatever cameos they allow in each episode. A few more to round out my list of favorites:

Shipwreck
Mutt & Junkyard
Beachhead
Rock N' Roll
Torpedo
Alpine and Bazooka

[Zefram]

I hate to say it, but the Bio-Vipers are kind of growing on me...especially in this episode.

The way Snake Eyes tore them up with his sword was pretty brutal...I'm not sure it would have had the same effect with robots, and they sure as hell couldn't do that with humans...

Not only that, but robots can't constantly regenerate, so not only would they be less of a threat, Cobra would have to keep replacing them. They'd also leave behind evidence if destroyed.

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.

As if the slash-fic writers needed the encouragement.

[Master Thespian]

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.
Keep your fantasies to yourself, weirdo.

[Bombardier]

If Renegades turns your character into a black person, beware...you will be killed.

RIP Frostbite and Ripcord.

[Black Swan]

I like this episode a lot .It was cool to see Timber and it sucks what happened to Frostbite(Iceberg). If this was episode was last I could've accept that with Joes still on run in Canada but it will be interesting to see how it all ends.

[RenHoek]

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.

... No. Just no.

[Wry1]

Did you find Snow Job's and Tunnel Rat's hug at the end to be a little you know...not that there's anything wrong with it.

Snow Job does sounds a lot like blow job. Tunnel Rat. Well we all know what tunnels are for. Snow Job got real depressed over Iceburgs death and ran to live in a cabin. Maybe the were really close. Three of them appear in a flash back and two of them are in their underwear. Why are they playing strip poker? Plus Tunnel Rat over slept.

Look at Tunnel Rat sleeping. On his stomach one leg bent up out of place (for easier access). Some white colored lquid dripping from his mouth. I see the canteen but maybe Tunnel Rat spits instead of shallows.


Then Snow Job hug Tunnel Rat in the end.

"Next time we play a little poker nicky"
"No way. Last time I lost my shirt"

Tunnel Rat would need to start losing his clothes if Snow Job was gonna give him a little poke.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/smh.gif

[supermanblue]

If Renegades turns your character into a black person, beware...you will be killed.

RIP Frostbite and Ripcord.

That was the only thing I didn't like about this episode. I thought it was one of my favorites. But really you kill off the the characters you change to black, how much since does that make. Frostbite and iceberg where a couple of my favorites and now they are dead. Thanks.

[Bombardier]

my dvr didnt record it. anyone else on dish network? i skipped ahead to later tonight and it says the episode originally aired on march 4th. weird. oh well, ill catch it tonight

same thing happened to me...and I have DirecTV.

I noticed too late on Friday but was lucky enough to catch a repeat on Saturday.

[dustycarlisle]

same thing happened to me...and I have DirecTV.

I noticed too late on Friday but was lucky enough to catch a repeat on Saturday.

Same here.

[Bombardier]

(the one thing that bothered me-- every single one of them should have been able to recognize a Morse code SOS. For crying out loud, it's SOS! It's not hard! But I guess they have to have a reason to have someone say it out loud for any kids in the viewing audience who weren't in the scouts or something...)

I was in the military for several years, and I was never trained on morse code. I don't know anyone who was. For communications experts, it would make sense. But not every person to ever put on a uniform should be expected to know morse code.

[GlasgowSmiles]

I was in the military for several years, and I was never trained on morse code. I don't know anyone who was. For communications experts, it would make sense. But not every person to ever put on a uniform should be expected to know morse code.

Yeah, but it wasn't a complex message in Morse, it was 'SOS'... I mean, if he'd sent 'look out, crazy ninja biovipers are coming', then no one should have figured it out. I failed to learn much of anything about it from Scouts in third grade or so, but I can recognize an SOS.

... why scout troop leaders think that's a worthwhile thing for third graders to learn is beyond me, actually. Busywork, I guess.

[GlasgowSmiles]

As if the slash-fic writers needed the encouragement.

I don't know, I don't see a lot of it in this fandom.

Like, any.

Granted, my siblings both pointed out how sketchy having the name 'Snow Job' sounds (and okay, I'll admit, I always think of "snowball" from Clerks and then shudder...), but I can't see their hug as being anything other than brotherly.

Of course, if 'Knockoffs' taught me anything, it's that Roadblock wants to date Tunnel Rat...

I'm sorry, I came in to point out that the Joeverse has been largely slash-free, and then that happened.

(and let no man sully the cute sleep of Tunnel Rat with orgy theories!)

[Sgt Major Haley]

...---...

yeah we should all know what that means

[maczero]

I agree the people that make the show had no control over the hiatus, I am sure they are bummed too. I mean think about it they all just lost their jobs today! BUT I say we should boycott the show as a way of showing how much we want to watch it. If they see no viewers that will send a crazy sign to them, they might not read blogs but if they get no viewers they will know we mean business.This is the last thing you want to do with a show on the verge of cancellation.

I say support the franchise. Contact the Hub and Hasbro. Support the toys. Buy the DVDs.

Anyway, I thought this ep was decent.

[RolandofGilead]

Really liked Snow Job in this episode. If there is one thing Renegades has succeeded with, it's intensifying or re-invigorating classic characters. I like Zartan better because of his treatment in Renegades. I love this version of Destro's origin and the fact that it could be made to explain just why he worked so hard for Cobra in the old Marvel comics and Sunbow series, all the while hating Cobra Commander but feeling honor bound to serve him.

[Freedom]

I dug this episode. The reivention of some of the characters is very creative. Even though I hate the Bio-Vipers, the way Mindbender uses the Twins to control them is awesome.

I wasn't really expecting a brooding Snow Job, but they could have easily went REAL kiddie with this and he could have been a ski instructor at a bunny slope in aspen.

[Jay West]

I guess I missed the discussion of 16...when is it supposed to air?

[Dust Viper]

I'm not happy the turn the Twins have taken. Cobra Commander has stolen their business persona and now they are just fodder for Mindbender. That is not an 'update' at all.

However, I did like Snow Job. Probably the best Joe guest star yet. His history was more substantial than others.

[optimussolo]

I have updated our Renegades page at behindthevoiceactors with pics and soundclips of almost every character that has shown up so far if anyone is interested in checking it out!

Behind The Voice Actors - G.I. Joe: Renegades (http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/tv-shows/GI-Joe-Renegades/)