Just got off the phone with the GI Joe Club... possible new run of Dial Tones

[PhilDpino]

Hope this is the correct forum to post this.

Anyways:

Tried to see if I could get a second Dial-Tone today. I mean, what the heck, right? I only lose if I don't try.

Anyways, they are sold out completely.

But because it was so popular, "Brian is talking to China" regarding the details of "possibly getting more made."

[krisk]

that would be nice, but I got mine!

[darthdrew13]

Oh man I would love it if this were true! They really should have more made. I know they don't want to have a bunch left in overstock, but I don't want to miss out or have to pay both arms and a leg to get this fig!

[Bombardier]

Oh man I would love it if this were true! They really should have more made. I know they don't want to have a bunch left in overstock, but I don't want to miss out or have to pay both arms and a leg to get this fig!

You had plenty of time to get one when the membership drive was going on. Ever since they announced the figure would be the club giveaway, you've had plenty of time. Missing out is only your own fault. I for one, hope they don't make any more.

[Lody]

They shouldn't make any more

[Starfighter]

I agree with Bombardier. It is a Club "exclusive". What is it to be part of a club if you can just buy it later on anywhere at the usual online shops in a saturated market? Personally, I think that they should not have made more to sell (their pre-order carded version for example) than the amount of current members that selected 3-3/4 on the membership page. However, they should have at least extended it to Friday 3/18 as people might have wanted to get paid.

[5h4rK]

They shouldn't make any more


^^^^This! It's supposed to be an exclusive..

[williamzombie]

I totally hope hey make more... or a variation or something. I've been too broke to join the club at that level and get that figure. Would love to see it come out again if I had the spare cash, or if it was sold in a less expensive way.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

I gotta' agree they shouldn't make any more. It was an exclusive item supposed to be made in certain numbers probably. I can understand that they may want to capitalize on the demand but they should just let it be as is IMO. If they make more of DT then they might as well make more convention sets too since they sold out. Demand is there. Honestly though, if anyone snoozed they lost this time. It's their own fault. People thought it would be like most other sets and figures and be available and it was too popular.

[Magick]

I feel the same way.. an exclusive is just that.. there was plenty of time to join the club and get a free one. Im sure what most people are wanting made are the carded versions due to all of the MOC collectors. Even those should not be remade. That would be like someone going back and remaking the PDD gold head.. Wait.. that did happen. LOL

[wormser]

i hope they make a carded figure. i am new to the whole membership/con exclusives and i missed out. dialtone was 1 of my favs as a kid

[KushViper]

You had plenty of time to get one when the membership drive was going on. Ever since they announced the figure would be the club giveaway, you've had plenty of time. Missing out is only your own fault. I for one, hope they don't make any more.
Hate to say it but I agree completely. Thats what makes it "exclusive".

[dsrader]

thats what they did with the mailin Doc. demand was so high,so they made more.Nice

[Saboteur]

I wonder if Hasbro (Brian) still thinks Dial Tone isn't worth making?

I mean, I'm sure they're satisfied that with the sales results of big names like Arctic Destro and Tornado Kick Snake Eyes.

[Bombardier]

thats what they did with the mailin Doc. demand was so high,so they made more.Nice

the Club had nothing to do with Doc.

[wormser]

is doc even worth anything? im not gonna sell mine. just curious

[wormser]

I wonder if Hasbro (Brian) still thinks Dial Tone isn't worth making?

I mean, I'm sure they're satisfied that with the sales results of big names like Arctic Destro and Tornado Kick Snake Eyes.


+1 great point. enough with the 74 different versions of snake eyes

[darthdrew13]

You had plenty of time to get one when the membership drive was going on. Ever since they announced the figure would be the club giveaway, you've had plenty of time. Missing out is only your own fault. I for one, hope they don't make any more.

...says the man who has the coin to buy 6 of everything (I saw your post in one of the JoeCon threads). Try having to change jobs 3 times in a year due to contract buy-outs, project completion and budget cuts, then drop a new-born unplanned child (we used protection that had been working just fine previously) into the mix, and top it off with a friggin' total right hip-replacement that started this whole ball rolling at the age of 35. Sure I had time. I had no COIN!. I'm working 71 hours a week to try and dig out of my hole. I'm doing something to fix this problem when I could have just sat there and drawn unemployment. So forgive me if I hope that the JoeCC gets more Dial Tones made so I have a chance to get one in the future.

Exclusives only give snotty people the right to say... "I have this and you don't". When exclusives should simply give people the right to say "You could only get this item here if you wanted it." But I guess you'll get to say "I have 6 Dial Tones and you don't". Thanks.

Sorry to rant gang. I guess I just hit my last straw.

Bombardier, this is only directed to you IF you are a limelighting snob. If you aren't and I misunderstood you, than please accept my apologies.

I'll say this... Aire Devon has a massively awesome collection IMHO. Just look at the Collectable Spectacle series 2 videos. But she NEVER rubs it in my face. To the contrary, she SHARES it. She lets me come over to her place just about whenever I want to see the collection and talk about stuff. She offers an ear to bend and a kind word whenever I need it. I guess I should give her a call. I wish they all could be like her.

[MJjoe4life]

I totally agree they should NOT make anymore. We have known about the exclusive for at least 6 months now. i agree snooze u lose.

If they go back and make more, they should make more big lob while they are at it to help the ones that missed him too. lol

[ROC Solid Snake]

No more will be made...problem solved! This is the stock answer "the club" and hasbro use to get nerds off the phone. They said they'd make more slaughters...see any!?

[wertdog91]

They shouldn't make any more

Agreed

[Starfighter]

...says the man who has the coin to buy 6 of everything (I saw your post in one of the JoeCon threads). Try having to change jobs 3 times in a year due to contract buy-outs, project completion and budget cuts, then drop a new-born unplanned child (we used protection that had been working just fine previously) into the mix, and top it off with a friggin' total right hip-replacement that started this whole ball rolling at the age of 35. Sure I had time. I had no COIN!. I'm working 71 hours a week to try and dig out of my hole. I'm doing something to fix this problem when I could have just sat there and drawn unemployment. So forgive me if I hope that the JoeCC gets more Dial Tones made so I have a chance to get one in the future.

Exclusives only give snotty people the right to say... "I have this and you don't". When exclusives should simply give people the right to say "You could only get this item here if you wanted it." But I guess you'll get to say "I have 6 Dial Tones and you don't". Thanks.

Sorry to rant gang. I guess I just hit my last straw.

Bombardier, this is only directed to you IF you are a limelighting snob. If you aren't and I misunderstood you, than please accept my apologies.

I'll say this... Aire Devon has a massively awesome collection IMHO. Just look at the Collectable Spectacle series 2 videos. But she NEVER rubs it in my face. To the contrary, she SHARES it. She lets me come over to her place just about whenever I want to see the collection and talk about stuff. She offers an ear to bend and a kind word whenever I need it. I guess I should give her a call. I wish they all could be like her.

Very sorry for your troubles in the past. The truth is that if you want it bad enough, you will get it later on$$$. I wish that they would remake a lot of the ARAH stuff, but that is not going to happen. The fact is, this was a timed exclusive and now that the time has expired, there is no reason to start complaining.

[MJjoe4life]

i hope they make a carded figure. i am new to the whole membership/con exclusives and i missed out. dialtone was 1 of my favs as a kid

they did and it is being sold at JoeCon this year.

Just remember the club and hasbro are two seperate things. doc has nothing to do with dial tone.

[wormser]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something? im not complaining that i didnt get one, but i just dont see why you wouldnt want others that "missed out" to have one without spending 500 dollars

[dsrader]

the Club had nothing to do with Doc.

i know,hasbro did. i was just saying that they had more made cuz of high demand.

[Bombardier]

...says the man who has the coin to buy 6 of everything (I saw your post in one of the JoeCon threads). Try having to change jobs 3 times in a year due to contract buy-outs, project completion and budget cuts, then drop a new-born unplanned child (we used protection that had been working just fine previously) into the mix, and top it off with a friggin' total right hip-replacement that started this whole ball rolling at the age of 35. Sure I had time. I had no COIN!. I'm working 71 hours a week to try and dig out of my hole. I'm doing something to fix this problem when I could have just sat there and drawn unemployment. So forgive me if I hope that the JoeCC gets more Dial Tones made so I have a chance to get one in the future.

Exclusives only give snotty people the right to say... "I have this and you don't". When exclusives should simply give people the right to say "You could only get this item here if you wanted it." But I guess you'll get to say "I have 6 Dial Tones and you don't". Thanks.

Sorry to rant gang. I guess I just hit my last straw.

Bombardier, this is only directed to you IF you are a limelighting snob. If you aren't and I misunderstood you, than please accept my apologies.

I'll say this... Aire Devon has a massively awesome collection IMHO. Just look at the Collectable Spectacle series 2 videos. But she NEVER rubs it in my face. To the contrary, she SHARES it. She lets me come over to her place just about whenever I want to see the collection and talk about stuff. She offers an ear to bend and a kind word whenever I need it. I guess I should give her a call. I wish they all could be like her.

If money is such an issue for you, then why are you hoping to purchase a piece of plastic? Two months ago, other finances took precedent over buying DialTone. Today, you still have those financial burdens...but you still plan to spend money on one even thought the $$$ could be better spent digging you out of your hole? What's changed?

[wormser]

they did and it is being sold at JoeCon this year.

Just remember the club and hasbro are two seperate things. doc has nothing to do with dial tone.

i know thy dont have anything to do with each other. i was just curious. ill just check to see what they are going for on ebay. for an answer. i opened mine up for my future display

[Saboteur]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something?

That's it. There exists those in the Joe community that feel the incessant need to satisfy this urge.

[Bombardier]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something? im not complaining that i didnt get one, but i just dont see why you wouldnt want others that "missed out" to have one without spending 500 dollars

because it ruins the legitimacy of the membership figure program. If they make more, after the free figure for members deadline and make them available to everyone....those that spent the money on membership would be getting backhanded.

[Starfighter]

Also, this is a different type of exclusive than the SDCC stuff. It is a "Club" exclusive. You are part of a "CLUB" and then have a right to be snotty. The SDCC is different and unfair as it is mainly a scalpers dream and most cannot get the stuff.

With the CLUB, You had an ENTIRE YEAR to join up until to days ago. It was way easier to get this exclusive than the SDCC stuff. There are so many anti-club people but hopefully this will entice you to join so that you could get next year's exclusive in which started yesterday for the 2012 figure.

[Starfighter]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something? im not complaining that i didnt get one, but i just dont see why you wouldnt want others that "missed out" to have one without spending 500 dollars

As stated earlier:

It is a Club "exclusive". What is it to be part of a club if you can just buy it later on anywhere at the usual online shops in a saturated market? Personally, I think that they should not have made more to sell (their pre-order carded version for example) than the amount of current members that selected 3-3/4 on the membership page. However, they should have at least extended it to Friday 3/18 as people might have wanted to get paid.

[volleydan]

I hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "Exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the Joe club = more attention to GI Joe by both Hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on EBay for a few extra bucks? so they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

[wormser]

i get all that. i do. it just sucks that a figure like him will be hard to get. slaughter too. and i get that just a variation of something is a cop out for an exclusive too. its a double edge sword i guess.

[mr pawn]

Can't we all just get along

[Starfighter]

I hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "Exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the Joe club = more attention to GI Joe by both Hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on EBay for a few extra bucks? so they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

Those people had until 2 days ago to join. They had a full year to do so, but many are anti-club for some reason and would be willing to pay more for the same figure than they would have if they joined the club. Hopefilly, this years showing will entice them to join for next years 2012 figure. That membership started yesterday. Also, if your are going to sell it on Ebay, then why are you in the club in the first place? It is a club for fans of G.I. Joe.

[mr pawn]

Plain and simple, they should not make any more, thats it, if you love gi joe, then a 1 figure deal if you join shouldn't matter, you should join any way, to get the exclusives, all joe items like this were made 1 time and thats it, not every one can own a corvette, not everyone can afford to eat steak every night, it is not anyones fault that can afford to do something and made to fell like a asshole for doing it, we all have our burdens, joecon is supposed to be fun, and all every body does is keep complaining about 1 single joe figure, theres alot of joe collectors in japan right now that might have lost everything, and here we all are like this, come on.

[wormser]

it has for me. like i said, i am new to the membership thing. if i wasnt laid off, i would have joined last week. im gonna join next year though for sure.

[MazinAzn]

yeah, if they make more of dts, then the ones who are getting screwed over are us folks who bought the membership as we awaited this and.got the membership for dt.

tough shit for those who didn't get dt or the exclusives, but they had all the time in the world to sign up and get them

[MAJOR BLOOD]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something? im not complaining that i didnt get one, but i just dont see why you wouldnt want others that "missed out" to have one without spending 500 dollars

I'm pretty sure that this thread is about the bagged figure. If that thing goes for $500 than please send someone my way and I'll hook them up for half that with the one a friend got me. As for those that missed out, they had 365 days to become a member. Probably about 4-6 months since Pedo Dial was known about so there was plenty of time to get on board. For those that just got in the game that is the unfortunate reality of items like this. For those that did not have the loot, when you do have it you'll have to pony up or ask someone in the community if they want to help out.

This is a CLUB exclusive. It is incentive to join a club in a certain time frame to get the free figure with membership. If the GIJCC makes more they are robbing members of that club privilege. Of course there is the option to buy anytime of the year like other figures but this one was popular and the boat has left port. But if they want to make more, they will. It's their business and can do what they want. Only the members can really have a voice at that point. If they do something like that to their members than some may not be inclined to join again possibly. But if new members or more money outweigh that then I'm sure their choice will be obvious.

[Black Llama]

I hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "Exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the Joe club = more attention to GI Joe by both Hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on EBay for a few extra bucks? so they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

10 Points for not only using pedantic, but also using it appropriately and correctly :D

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[mr pawn]

I couldn't afford to go to any joe con before 2002, couldn't even get my rent paid right, but i sure didn't get pissed off at every one that could go, i was happy for them, if i had the money, i would help alot of tankers go to the con, thats how i am, but its not fair at all to the collectors that buy these items and get on board when they should, to remake something and then lower the vaule over time of what they got, maybe they should just remake all the hard to get rare shit, they need to rerelease the yellow stalker, not everyone got one of those, then all the collectors that paid big money whould just be screwded over, it would never stop.

[wormser]

fair enough. im just kinda bummed out i didnt know about this whole thing til last week and i had no cash. now im excited to join next year. hopefully its a sweet figure. like thrasher or road pig

[darthdrew13]

i hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the joe club = more attention to gi joe by both hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on ebay for a few extra bucks? So they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

amen!!!

[darthdrew13]

yeah, if they make more of dts, then the ones who are getting screwed over are us folks who bought the membership as we awaited this and.got the membership for dt.

tough shit for those who didn't get dt or the exclusives, but they had all the time in the world to sign up and get them

How are you getting screwed? Please, elaborate.

[wormser]

what else does the club offer besides the exclusive figure? someone have a link? i want to see why people pay $42 for a figure lol

[Starfighter]

plain and simple, they should not make any more, thats it, if you love gi joe, then a 1 figure deal if you join shouldn't matter, you should join any way, to get the exclusives, all joe items like this were made 1 time and thats it, not every one can own a corvette, not everyone can afford to eat steak every night, it is not anyones fault that can afford to do something and made to fell like a asshole for doing it, we all have our burdens, joecon is supposed to be fun, and all every body does is keep complaining about 1 single joe figure, theres alot of joe collectors in japan right now that might have lost everything, and here we all are like this, come on.

exactly!!!

[nighthawk]

That's if you live in the US. I live in Canada and it would be like $60something. I even asked Brian if I can just not get the newsletter and pay the $42 for membership and he said no.

[mr pawn]

Canada guys get some really cool shit thought that us guys here in the states would kill to have.

[Starfighter]

That's if you live in the US. I live in Canada and it would be like $60something. I even asked Brian if I can just not get the newsletter and pay the $42 for membership and he said no.

You could have always asked a fellow tanker that you trust that is also in the US to get a $42 membership for you prior to the deadline. But then again, shipping to Canada would cost the $18 anyway, so it is not like you missed out.

[mr pawn]

Its all good, i'm sure every body that wants one for their collection will get on, now i'm going to get in my corvette and go home and eat me some steak, nono, just kidding.

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

I see both points in this arguement and agree, but I think my take on this is, the club wants to provide figures for people that want it....and I'll be honest if there's a chance for them to make money off of it sounds good to me. I think the club only benefits from an item that sells so well a second run is considered.

But I will agree, maybe toss some variation to it to keep the original more collectable.

[bandonov]

That's if you live in the US. I live in Canada and it would be like $60something. I even asked Brian if I can just not get the newsletter and pay the $42 for membership and he said no.


Yup, the membership price for Canada is $63.

[Jeffrozup]

thats what they did with the mailin Doc. demand was so high,so they made more.Nice

The biggest reason for Doc was that people were still turning in their comic pack stickers for the figure well after the deadline. I understand the point about demand being high but it's really apples and oranges when comparing the Doc and Dial-Tone figures.

I am in the group that they shouldn't make more because it opens up a can of worms where people will just wait around and whine in the future and hope Hasbro or whoever will cave and make more of the figure.

There was plenty of time to get this figure and to be blunt, if you didn't get it by now, you don't deserve to get it for a cheap price.

[Starfighter]

I see both points in this arguement and agree, but I think my take on this is, the club wants to provide figures for people that want it....and I'll be honest if there's a chance for them to make money off of it sounds good to me. I think the club only benefits from an item that sells so well a second run is considered.

But I will agree, maybe toss some variation to it to keep the original more collectable.

Simple, for the variation, just add a Gung-Ho head. Right?

[TARGETSIX]

There was plenty of time to get this figure and to be blunt, if you didn't get it by now, you don't deserve to get it for a cheap price.

Good, Bad or Ugly, that's the f-ing truth!

If you waited too long = your fault

If you are a cheapskate = your fault

If you couldn't save up 40ish dollars over one year = your fault, and you need to give up toys, cut off your computer and get your f-ing life in gear

If you just got into Joe, and you didn't know = not really your fault, you'll just have to add it to your list of things you want but don't have

If you just like to complain = I don't care, but for god's sake please be entertaining while doing it

[PhilDpino]

I hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "Exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the Joe club = more attention to GI Joe by both Hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on EBay for a few extra bucks? so they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

I got the impression from the club that they ran out before they could fulfill new memberships. so people who met the deadline actually got turned away. So much so that it would be better business practice to make more than it would be to turn people away.


Also, if someone wanted 1 as MISB and a second for display, only members can get more at the $20 price point. Everyone else has to pay the $42 at the shop. The cost of a membership. My understanding is, if you didnot meet the cut off for the year that a fig is offered as a free incentive, any figure from the previous year purchased as a NON-member is $42 and you don't get a membership. If you become a member you get the next year's figure then still have to pay the $20 price. So you end up paying more. Either way you pay more than a current member would. especially on eBay. And you might even join up.

Exclusive to club members means only club members can get them at any quantity. (up to the maximum per person limit and while supplies last.) Besides "limited time" is only as limited as to how long the club can sustain sales (either by running out or when it no longer becomes cost effective for them to keep making more to offer to people.) if they decide to make more to meet membership demands that means more people will join, and they will make money on all the second figs.

On a side note. If you were one of those folks who jumped at the chance to pre-order 6 to scalp...you're ruining it for everyone else.

[hahoo3]

I'll be getting the bagged one, but would prefer a carded one!!

It makes sense to make more if they're a hot item, your making more money for your business! That's why I can't wrap my head around Hasbro putting 2 troop builders in a box of 12 figs and 2 or more of the other figs! Then we end up w/ 15 Destros at each Target!! Come on HASBRO!!!!! Sorry I got off subject everyone.

[Jeffrozup]

I got the impression from the club that they ran out before they could fulfill new memberships. so people who met the deadline actually got turned away. So much so that it would be better business practice to make more than it would be to turn people away.

Did they tell you they actually had to cancel memberships?

Because Pete posts on here and said that everybody who ordered a membership by the end of business day on the 16th was guaranteed of getting either the 3 3/4" or 12" figure (whichever they signed up for).

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-news-rumors/97846-joe-club-dial-tone-sold-out-5.html#post2354655

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-news-rumors/98466-dial-tone-file-card-5-days-left.html#post2362491

[bluesparrow]

Why does the life cycle of these discussions always essentially have to be:

"They're making a 25th-style Dial Tone figure!"

"Wow they just revealed it and it looks like shit! Fucking Collector's Club!"

"That ugly Dial Tone figure sold out after being available with club subscriptions for 6+ months! Now I can't buy one! Fuck the club!"

[darthdrew13]

I couldn't afford to go to any joe con before 2002, couldn't even get my rent paid right, but i sure didn't get pissed off at every one that could go, i was happy for them, if i had the money, i would help alot of tankers go to the con, thats how i am, but its not fair at all to the collectors that buy these items and get on board when they should, to remake something and then lower the vaule over time of what they got, maybe they should just remake all the hard to get rare shit, they need to rerelease the yellow stalker, not everyone got one of those, then all the collectors that paid big money whould just be screwded over, it would never stop.

So collecting is all about money? I collect Joes to have cool stuff that I want. I don't care about value.

***not targeted at any one in particular***I don't mind a collectible gaining value later on due to popularity, but instant value just because an item is made in fewer numbers is dumb. Exclusives should be made to meet demand so consumers will shop at the retailer offering them. That is why a retailer offers an exclusive. Retailers could care less about the secondary market. The mail-in Doc had a second production run because Hasbro saw the demand and met it. I don't care about his value now. Deal with that in 10 years. The JoeClub Dial Tone was genious for them to offer because it is a figure high in demand. If they don't make more, they are losing the opportunity to make more money (the ONLY reason ANY profit making company is in business). Collectors crying because they followed the "rules" and got their figure and not wanting others to get the figure is pure and simple crap. They are saying "I want to be special!" Get over it. If you want to be special, figure out how to make a website that makes billions of dollars within 10 years. That's special. Just because you are 1 of X amount of people who have a plastic action figure doesn't make you special.

Back on track to mr pawn's post, I am not mad that someone gets to go to JoeCon and I don't. Never will be. I hope and pray everyone who attends JoeCon has a safe and fun time. All I can hope for is a few pictures posted so I can see what I have missed. Trust me, I have wanted to go to EVERY Star Wars Celebration but have only been able to make it to the 3rd one. I know how to get over not being able to attend a Con. I ONLY get upset at someone who has no pull in a companies decisions teling me "Tuff tooties, you can't have a chance at the exclusive figure this year. I'm special and you aren't". It's up to the JoeClub to decide if there is enough demand to make more figs and hence, more money. Not a collector. Date restrictions for the club figures are an way to create an inherent amount of demand. "You gotta get it now". But rules like that are broken all the time because of what? Money. Just look at all of the vintage Star Wars figure mail-in offers that kept getting extended. Why did they do that? Money. Offers get extended all the time due to demand (or sometimes overstock that needs to be moved out).

[Roshan]

Why does the life cycle of these discussions always essentially have to be:

"They're making a 25th-style Dial Tone figure!"

"Wow they just revealed it and it looks like shit! Fucking Collector's Club!"

"That ugly Dial Tone figure sold out after being available with club subscriptions for 6+ months! Now I can't buy one! Fuck the club!"


Because 90% of the time, people making statements in column B are not the same people making the statements in column C. But what is assured is that 5% of the observers of that cycle will make an incorrect inference that all B are C.

[Crimson Rage]

Not to sound mean, but people had plenty of chance to join the club, others didn't think it was worth it while even more said DIAL-TONE wasn't 'important enough' (or the figure good enough) to warrant owning.

Now he's gone, people want him? I joined the club for the first time ever in order to get a DIAL-TONE, so if I see the same figure for sale at a regular street price now I'll be a bit miffed.

They can make more for a membership incentive I guess, but then what's the point of the deadline?

[wormser]

i think its a good thing in a way to not offer it to the general public other than the convention after it was announced as an exclusive. sure they will make money but they will lose credibility with their club. kinda shows loyalty in a way.

[Roshan]

***not targeted at any one in particular***I don't mind a collectible gaining value later on due to popularity, but instant value just because an item is made in fewer numbers is dumb.


So the concept of value going up due to rarity is dumb?

[PhilDpino]

Did they tell you they actually had to cancel memberships?

Because Pete posts on here and said that everybody who ordered a membership by the end of business day on the 16th was guaranteed of getting either the 3 3/4" or 12" figure (whichever they signed up for).

No they didn't. Like I said it was an impression I got. They said they had stacks of orders everyday all day. And were very surprised by the popularity. They probably got everyone who made it.

[wormser]

it happens a lot though. like when there is only like 1 figure per case but like 3-4 of the others

[Monkeywrench]

I got 4 coming so I don't care. If they make more, I will try and get another one

[TARGETSIX]

Darthdrew13 said"Tuff tooties, you can't have a chance at the exclusive figure this year. I'm special and you aren't".

But you did have a chance, for a full year=+/-, right?

"It's up to the JoeClub to decide if there is enough demand to make more figs and hence, more money. Not a collector. Date restrictions for the club figures are an way to create an inherent amount of demand.

The club is collector driven, so in a way, it doesn't make much sense to offer a limited exclusive that really isn't actually limited.

"Tuff tooties, you can't have a chance at the exclusive figure this year. I'm special and you aren't".

But you did have a chance, for a full year=/-, right?

"You gotta get it now". But rules like that are broken all the time because of what? Money. Just look at all of the vintage Star Wars figure mail-in offers that kept getting extended. Why did they do that? Money. Offers get extended all the time due to demand (or sometimes overstock that needs to be moved out)..

So you took a chance, that's cool. But make sure you understand the risk. Sometimes, "you gotta get it now" actually means, "you gotta get it Now".

[wormser]

so if i join next month, do i get the choice of the new figure for next time when it is announced or do i have to wait til this time next year to join?

[wormser]

I got 4 coming so I don't care. If they make more, I will try and get another one

cmon brother, sell me a DT for like $5. us bears fans gotta stick together!

[Jeffrozup]

so if i join next month, do i get the choice of the new figure for next time when it is announced or do i have to wait til this time next year to join?

That's a good question. Since the deadline for this year's figure has passed, I would imagine you would get next year's figure if you signed up now but don't quote me on that.

[Shin-Gouki]

I have a feeling that they need to make more anyway because they may have had a rush of last minute memberships at the deadline.

[Lody]

...says the man who has the coin to buy 6 of everything (I saw your post in one of the JoeCon threads). Try having to change jobs 3 times in a year due to contract buy-outs, project completion and budget cuts, then drop a new-born unplanned child (we used protection that had been working just fine previously) into the mix, and top it off with a friggin' total right hip-replacement that started this whole ball rolling at the age of 35. Sure I had time. I had no COIN!. I'm working 71 hours a week to try and dig out of my hole. I'm doing something to fix this problem when I could have just sat there and drawn unemployment. So forgive me if I hope that the JoeCC gets more Dial Tones made so I have a chance to get one in the future.

Exclusives only give snotty people the right to say... "I have this and you don't". When exclusives should simply give people the right to say "You could only get this item here if you wanted it." But I guess you'll get to say "I have 6 Dial Tones and you don't". Thanks.

Sorry to rant gang. I guess I just hit my last straw.

Bombardier, this is only directed to you IF you are a limelighting snob. If you aren't and I misunderstood you, than please accept my apologies.

I'll say this... Aire Devon has a massively awesome collection IMHO. Just look at the Collectable Spectacle series 2 videos. But she NEVER rubs it in my face. To the contrary, she SHARES it. She lets me come over to her place just about whenever I want to see the collection and talk about stuff. She offers an ear to bend and a kind word whenever I need it. I guess I should give her a call. I wish they all could be like her.

This again? Seriously? Dude-you are so out of steam it's not even funny. Many people here myself included, have emassed HUGE collections for pennies because we are smart, tough negotiators and brave enough to walk away when it's not in our favor or beyond what we want to pay. Calling somone out like this without knowing what sacrifices they made throughout the year to make it happen makes you[/I] look snotty and a bit whiny.

[darthdrew13]

I'm not saying the JoeClub has to offer Dial Tone to the world, I just hope they make more figures to sell on their own website if the demand is confirmed. You can still get some of the previous years exclusive figures through the Club. Are the members who got those figures during the initial offer screwed? Honestly, I don't think so. They got the figure they wanted and it is still exclusive to the JoeClub.

One other point of note. When was Dial Tone announced? Becasue we didn't have a full year to join the Club knowing we would get Jack Morelli as the exclusive. We only had X amount of months after he was announced. You can join right now for the next exclusive figure. But who is it? I'm not making an excuse, per se, I am just offereing more data to the discussion.

Oh and BTW, I still won't be able to afford Dial Tone if more get made (unless something like the lottery happens to me). I just want the opportunity for those who can afford him to be able to get him via the Club, as it should be. If demand is met. Scalpers lose out and secondary market value is kept down (Doc and SDCC Destro are examples). That way I have a chance at getting Mr. Morelli later when I can afford him (or trade for him) at a proper price.

[darthdrew13]

So the concept of value going up due to rarity is dumb?

The concept of value going up due to an imposed rarity is dumb. "We are only going to make 10 of these just so we can make 10 people feel special and everyone else frustrated or angry". Yup, that's dumb. It's a missed money making opportunity for the retailer if demand is there.

The concept of value going up due to an unexpected rarity is just life. The yellow Stalker was not meant to be made like that. Hasbro had to fix an error in the coloring. The Star Wars blue Snaggletooth was halted from production becase Lucasfilm showed Kenner the error in the proportions and coloring.

[PhilDpino]

so if i join next month, do i get the choice of the new figure for next time when it is announced or do i have to wait til this time next year to join?

Anyone who joins today (for example) has missed out on 2011's figure (Dial-Tone) automatically gets the 3-3/4 or 12 inch fig for 2012 cycle. (which ever on you opt in for).You are automatically flagged to receive this fig. But for all you know today that figure could be cool like Dr. Fumbles or a dud like rainbow color Spacesuit Duke. Then they announce the 2012 cycle's fig around Oct. They open up pre-orders around January 2012 which last until they are afraid they won't have enough for membership drive.Then they do membership drive around March which ends mid march. Around April/May you should expect to receive the 2012 figure. Then the cycle starts over for 2013.


If you signed up for 2012 cycle (and they had more figs left over from the previous years .) You would get the 2012 figure then have the option to buy the previous figs you missed out on at the $20 rate. If they are out and decided not product more to meet demands then you're just SOL. Sometime it works out sometimes it doesn't.

[wormser]

if you are a member, how many figs can you get? just the 1 or can you buy more than the 1 that comes with the membership?

[PhilDpino]

if you are a member, how many figs can you get? just the 1 or can you buy more than the 1 that comes with the membership?

You can by more while supplies last at $20 each for previous years figs. but I think there is a 6 fig limit. Not sure if that # is accurate or if that's a per order or per member.

[Roshan]

The concept of value going up due to an imposed rarity is dumb. "We are only going to make 10 of these just so we can make 10 people feel special and everyone else frustrated or angry". Yup, that's dumb. It's a missed money making opportunity for the retailer if demand is there.

Actually it's a great business practice if done correctly. Not so much in this case, but it's definitely a way to whip up demand for a product to impose a production limit on an item to build up a fever pitch for it. Also, just because you have a sellout, doesn't mean you can make another production run of figures and those will sellout too. If they made a little under what was needed, it's a loss if they got back into production and make another group that where only a percentage will sell and the rest will sit.


I could care less if they make more or not, and for those of you who have one and do care if they make more, the only thing it does to affect you is the value of the figure you have. In that case, it's the flip side of the coin to "tough titties" that can be thrown at someone who can't get them.


and to Phildpino, you can't ever try to get an impression on a phone convo with a member of the club. Earlier this week, I called the club and asked about buying limits per person on carded Dial-tones with golden ticket. The person I talked to said they were'nt aware of any spending limits with that figure for the golden ticket. But even though i talked to a club staff member about it, I know that's not going to be the case. There's no way they're letting golden ticket buy them all up before anyone else can get them. So just because you talked to someone at the club, doesn't mean they that the person you talked to knows what's going on with the dial-tones.

[carion]

You had plenty of time to get one when the membership drive was going on. Ever since they announced the figure would be the club giveaway, you've had plenty of time. Missing out is only your own fault. I for one, hope they don't make any more.

You are so Right>

The club anounced nearly a year ago that this years figure would be Diel-tone, its not like they sprang it on us at the last minute.

[darthdrew13]

This again? Seriously? Dude-you are so out of steam it's not even funny. Many people here myself included, have emassed HUGE collections for pennies because we are smart, tough negotiators and brave enough to walk away when it's not in our favor or beyond what we want to pay. Calling somone out like this without knowing what sacrifices they made throughout the year to make it happen makes you[/I] look snotty and a bit whiny.

Lody, I have always respected your opinion and still will. I am not mad at anyone who has 6 of the Dial Tone Figure coming to them because they have achieved that goal themselves. Good for them. I applaud the fact mr pawn was able to do that (if that was indeed what he did). My problem lies with those collectors who get all this cool stuff (in mass quantities sometimes) and stick their noses up and say "I got 6 of them, why couldn't you?" We all have our own deal when it comes to collecting. People should enjoy their collections and share them with others if that is what they wish to do. But don't go bragging about it. I would love to have a Ferrarri someday like most of us, but if I know someone who has one and he says "Look what I have and you don't" it's only going to make me want to spill my Slurpee in the car. But if they said "Hey, do you want to check out my Ferrari? I've been waiting a long time to get this." Im going to want to make them feel as good as they can about having that car because it is being presented in a much better way.

[joedelta]

Just change the new batch up with a lighter green. Variation and a common, problem frickin solved.

[KushViper]

10 Points for not only using pedantic, but also using it appropriately and correctly :D

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/2/hmmmshallow128595270736845936.jpg



I agree! I saw his post and immediately said to myself "this has got to be the 1st time this word has ever been used on the tank".

Now, everybody quit yer cryin'! If GJCC made another addition of these I would seriously reconsider joining next year. That's a total party foul.

[TARGETSIX]

Darthdrew13,

So, who is it that is holding their Dialtone aquisition(s) over your head in a taunting way?

[kingofpain26]

if you are a member, how many figs can you get? just the 1 or can you buy more than the 1 that comes with the membership?

you only get 1 free figure per membership, but if they are still available you can buy more direct from the club for 20 bucks apop.


I find it funny that people are complaining about the rarity of this figure. They made about as much Dial Tones as they did Big lobs (more even) and Big Lob sold out as well.

[Monkeywrench]

you only get 1 free figure per membership, but if they are still available you can buy more direct from the club for 20 bucks apop.


I find it funny that people are complaining about the rarity of this figure. They made about as much Dial Tones as they did Big lobs (more even) and Big Lob sold out as well.

I agree. People had 10 months maybe more to sign up for the club and then club members had plenty of chances to pre-order more.

[Xenos]

I agree! I saw his post and immediately said to myself "this has got to be the 1st time this word has ever been used on the tank".

False (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-vintage-discussion/100010-whos-best-g-i-joe-driver-3.html#post2375580).

[volleydan]

Can anyone give me an example of how NOT making more of these could benefit the GIJCC or the collecting community?

Because so far, it seems that what I'm hearing from people who don't want more made is "I have mine so to hell with everyone else - I want these to be valuable."

While that mentality can result in some pretty impressive individual collections, it does NOTHING to actually help the GI Joe brand, the community, or anyone else but yourself. Occasionally, even in the "dog eat dog" world of toy collecting, you have to look beyond yourself, though.

GI Joe doesn't have the cachet to be a "permanent brand". It's the bastard stepchild of Hasbro's boys toys division, the suits in Hollywood, and even the collector's club itself.....THEY all want to deal with Transformers. Look no further than wave after wave of canceled product or news of major retailers dropping Joe for proof.

Because of this, the Joe brand relies heavily on its collector community to stay alive. People like Gyre, the guys at Joe Declassified, and others have had a definite (and positive) impact on the Joe brand - because they care about the brand and not just their own damn collections.

So when an item actually sells out, and they actually want to make more, maybe we should all be happy that PEOPLE WANT JOES instead of griping that now someone else will have one. This type of enthusiasm over an item just might prolong the survival of the brand. We need to show Hasbro and the GIJCC that we will support the right kind of product when they put it out.

Otherwise, we'll all be sitting here very shortly complaining that there is no Joe product on the shelves anymore.....

[Python_Puckman]

Being a broke, lazy basterd, I say send that order to China now!

BUT, doing something like that will kill the incentive to join the club if you can simply score one off eBay for less than the basic membership price. Unless the newsletter is simply amazing :)

[Owner of a Lonely B.A.T.]

I think this is pretty simple from the Collectors Club POV....there's money to be made here....they can either make more (in one form or another) and sell them and make the money themselves, or allow the 2ndary market people to clean up on the ones they already bought.

I'm not begruding people in the 2ndary market from making a buck but if I had produced the figure I'd be the one I wanted to be making the cash and not others.

[RolandofGilead]

Who wouldn't want the club to make more Dial Tones if they can? It's just so rare that they'd actually sell out of the club figure. What it tells me is that we're still really interested in completing our set of 25th/Mod ARAH figures. I hope Hasbro is watching.

[Starfighter]

you only get 1 free figure per membership, but if they are still available you can buy more direct from the club for 20 bucks apop.


I find it funny that people are complaining about the rarity of this figure. They made about as much Dial Tones as they did Big lobs (more even) and Big Lob sold out as well.

It was o-ring. That is why. Here on this site, the majority is ME and sold most of their o-ring stuff.

[KushViper]

False (http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-vintage-discussion/100010-whos-best-g-i-joe-driver-3.html#post2375580).

Touche.

On another note, I heard that Vincent VanGogh is producing more Starry Night paintings to meet the demand of the VVCC. Finally I can stop bitching about not having one in the art threads.

[Monkeywrench]

What it tells me is that we're still really interested in completing our set of 25th/Mod ARAH figures. I hope Hasbro is watching.

I agree man. When I first heard it was going to be a 25th/arah style figure, I knew it would sell out. People can't underestimate the power of arah/25th figs. Hell, this DT isn't even a "perfect" version and he's popular as hell. Can you imagine if the exclusive was the wave 4 LL?

[wormser]

i know im new here so im not gonna get too involved. but after reading all this, i see 2 great points.
1. if you are complaining because you didnt get a figure, you should have joined in time
2. people dont want more to be made cause they want theirs to be worth more. kinda selfish. whats the harm in them making more if its still for club members?

[kingofpain26]

Lody, I have always respected your opinion and still will. I am not mad at anyone who has 6 of the Dial Tone Figure coming to them because they have achieved that goal themselves. Good for them. I applaud the fact mr pawn was able to do that (if that was indeed what he did). My problem lies with those collectors who get all this cool stuff (in mass quantities sometimes) and stick their noses up and say "I got 6 of them, why couldn't you?" We all have our own deal when it comes to collecting. People should enjoy their collections and share them with others if that is what they wish to do. But don't go bragging about it. I would love to have a Ferrarri someday like most of us, but if I know someone who has one and he says "Look what I have and you don't" it's only going to make me want to spill my Slurpee in the car. But if they said "Hey, do you want to check out my Ferrari? I've been waiting a long time to get this." Im going to want to make them feel as good as they can about having that car because it is being presented in a much better way.

dude...

you totally miss the point.

I have 10 Defiant/ Crusader shuttles.. but Im not bragging about it, nor do I have a vast fortune.

keep in mind a lot of us are just as unemployed or hard up as you do... (technically dude, Right now.. I am homeless, but Im not whinning about it, or complaining about it) we (like Lody said) find deals and specials so we can get what we want.

as my Grandmother used to say:

"He who wants will find a way, he who does not will make an excuse"

just as you say its not fair for people to "Lord things over you": it isnt fair for YOU to claim people who have more than you are "snobs" or greedy.

theres nothing wrong with someone wanting to buy 6 dial tones for their own collection, (Hell I have 109 ROC reactive armor figs) its THEIR collection. I dont bitch about the guys who go to joecon every year with thousands of dollars. I just enjoy what I have, and try my best to get what I want.

...one advantage is I try to make friends and have a positive air about myself so that people will be GLAD to hook me up, rather than chastize them for having more than me.

[sjames90]

i know im new here so im not gonna get too involved. but after reading all this, i see 2 great points.
1. if you are complaining because you didnt get a figure, you should have joined in time
2. people dont want more to be made cause they want theirs to be worth more. kinda selfish. whats the harm in them making more if its still for club members?

I'm a member. I'm getting the bagged figure. I don't care about value because he's for my collection. I hope everyone gets one. He's a very cool looking figure.

[Starfighter]

i know im new here so im not gonna get too involved. but after reading all this, i see 2 great points.
1. if you are complaining because you didnt get a figure, you should have joined in time
2. people dont want more to be made cause they want theirs to be worth more. kinda selfish. whats the harm in them making more if its still for club members?

Your second point of view is not at all on what people are complaining about. They are complaining that if you are a Club member, there should be an incentive to join and feel part of something. What is it to be part of a club if you can just buy it later on anywhere at the usual online shops in a saturated market? Your second point is of tied into what the 1st point you are making in that people are complaining about in terms of not getting one, YET.

[mr pawn]

Kop, i want to shake your hand when i get there and see you, you speak words of wisdom all the time, your very postive about things and always tell it like it is, good deal

[Xenos]

I think this is pretty simple from the Collectors Club POV....there's money to be made here....they can either make more (in one form or another) and sell them and make the money themselves, or allow the 2ndary market people to clean up on the ones they already bought.

I'm not begruding people in the 2ndary market from making a buck but if I had produced the figure I'd be the one I wanted to be making the cash and not others.

It seems like there was a bit of a rush on memberships right at the deadline, which is obviously the purpose of having the exclusive. If the club makes more and sells them to the non-paying members then next year there may be more people skipping the membership and instead just buying the figure, which in the long run could cost the club money.

So they will have to decide if they should grab the quick buck now and possibly risk hurting their business in the long run.

[PhilDpino]

I agree. People had 10 months maybe more to sign up for the club and then club members had plenty of chances to pre-order more.

Actually preorders didn't start until 2011 and was only open for a couple of weeks at the most. I didn't even know it started until it closed due to the fear of running out. They had the pre-order page up about a week after they stopped pre-orders. You only knew it wasn't open anymore when the add to cart button wouldn't add.

[Starfighter]

dude...

you totally miss the point.

I have 10 Defiant/ Crusader shuttles.. but Im not bragging about it, nor do I have a vast fortune.

keep in mind a lot of us are just as unemployed or hard up as you do... (technically dude, Right now.. I am homeless, but Im not whinning about it, or complaining about it) we (like Lody said) find deals and specials so we can get what we want.

as my Grandmother used to say:

"He who wants will find a way, he who does not will make an excuse"

just as you say its not fair for people to "Lord things over you": it isnt fair for YOU to claim people who have more than you are "snobs" or greedy.

theres nothing wrong with someone wanting to buy 6 dial tones for their own collection, (Hell I have 109 ROC reactive armor figs) its THEIR collection. I dont bitch about the guys who go to joecon every year with thousands of dollars. I just enjoy what I have, and try my best to get what I want.

...one advantage is I try to make friends and have a positive air about myself so that people will be GLAD to hook me up, rather than chastize them for having more than me.

Your grandma is smart and sums up what many are trying to say to those that did not get a 2011 membership.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

I totally hope hey make more... or a variation or something. I've been too broke to join the club at that level and get that figure. Would love to see it come out again if I had the spare cash, or if it was sold in a less expensive way.


^^^^This, I hope they make more, but if not it's cool, I'll have the Mission Brazil version, but it won't be the iconic version. I'll go off to EBAY for the club exclusive version though, and may bite, provided it isn't too crazy.

[PhilDpino]

IMO if you are a member you should get a free one and the opportunity (which we did) to order only 1 more figure at the most while supplies last. (So people can have a MISB and a loose if they want.) If people order more than that they rob other people the equal opportunity to get a figure. If they make more. The YAAAAAY!!! If not. Well nuts, but oh well.

If you got a fig. Really can't complain that they sold out. if you missed out. Sorry. Maybe they'll make more but probably not. Next time don’t wait. And if it’s a decision between food and joes….

[OSOK]

they should make it a ross exclusive so everyone has a fair chance to own it

[PhilDpino]

Touche.

On another note, I heard that Vincent VanGogh is producing more Starry Night paintings to meet the demand of the VVCC. Finally I can stop bitching about not having one in the art threads.


The posters they sell at Wal-Mart looks better. And are only $6.

[mr pawn]

Also, do you really have 10 defiants, that is cool man

[Weezus]

LOL i have one and i hate dialtone and dont even want it. i was drunk and joined to club or whatever and now i keep getting these really gay magazines.

9_9

see you guys when it sells for a bajillion dollars. ill get it AFA graded and wear it on a gold chain.

[darthdrew13]

Darthdrew13,

So, who is it that is holding their Dialtone aquisition(s) over your head in a taunting way?

I seriously got the impression from those who are saying "I got mine and you had time to get yours" are coming across as elitist because they had the coin to get the figure and I didn't. If that is not the case I apologize. I do.

I don't wanna argue. I lost out. I just hope DT isn't going for an over inflated price when I can afford to buy one (or if I find one for trade). Sorry if I got a little hot headed. Just got pretty frustrated at those who were adamant no more figures be made if the demand was there.

[Jeffrozup]

Can anyone give me an example of how NOT making more of these could benefit the GIJCC or the collecting community?

Because so far, it seems that what I'm hearing from people who don't want more made is "I have mine so to hell with everyone else - I want these to be valuable."

While that mentality can result in some pretty impressive individual collections, it does NOTHING to actually help the GI Joe brand, the community, or anyone else but yourself. Occasionally, even in the "dog eat dog" world of toy collecting, you have to look beyond yourself, though.

GI Joe doesn't have the cachet to be a "permanent brand". It's the bastard stepchild of Hasbro's boys toys division, the suits in Hollywood, and even the collector's club itself.....THEY all want to deal with Transformers. Look no further than wave after wave of canceled product or news of major retailers dropping Joe for proof.

Because of this, the Joe brand relies heavily on its collector community to stay alive. People like Gyre, the guys at Joe Declassified, and others have had a definite (and positive) impact on the Joe brand - because they care about the brand and not just their own damn collections.

So when an item actually sells out, and they actually want to make more, maybe we should all be happy that PEOPLE WANT JOES instead of griping that now someone else will have one. This type of enthusiasm over an item just might prolong the survival of the brand. We need to show Hasbro and the GIJCC that we will support the right kind of product when they put it out.

Otherwise, we'll all be sitting here very shortly complaining that there is no Joe product on the shelves anymore.....

The biggest reason would be there would be no incentive to join the GIJCC if people can just realize they can sit around and get the figure whenever they want or going another route such as eBay, etc.

The GIJCC is a club but it is also a business. It needs memberships to keep itself running and if this is the trend they are going to go down in the future with its figures (a 25th/ME figure) then they will do very well in memberships which helps the GI Joe brand.

The last two years the GIJCC has introduced two figures that were appealing because they were new. The Big Lob figure had NEVER been made before and a 25th Dial-Tone figure had no chance to be made if it weren't for the GIJCC. Both of those figures sold out, you can't say that same for the previous exclusives (look on the site and you can buy every figure from like 2000-08).

Another benefit to having people order memberships by a certain date is the GIJCC knows exactly how many figures to produce now and will not get stuck with tons of overstock. If they sold 10,000 memberships, they know to order around that many figures. There's no possible way they could gauge how many "extra" figures to make and either they will come up short again or they will be stuck with tons of overstock like the 25th Doc that can be purchased for $8 from GIJCC.

[darthdrew13]

Touche.

On another note, I heard that Vincent VanGogh is producing more Starry Night paintings to meet the demand of the VVCC. Finally I can stop bitching about not having one in the art threads.

You must have forgotten what a "print" is... lol

[kingofpain26]

I seriously got the impression from those who are saying "I got mine and you had time to get yours" are coming across as elitist because they had the coin to get the figure and I didn't. If that is not the case I apologize. I do.

I don't wanna argue. I lost out. I just hope DT isn't going for an over inflated price when I can afford to buy one (or if I find one for trade). Sorry if I got a little hot headed. Just got pretty frustrated at those who were adamant no more figures be made if the demand was there.

Humility dude....

theres a good chance that one of those people who bought 6 dial tones IS a scalper, and he will have them fro sale... COOL people on the Boards usually get the opportunely to buy from other cool people at cost.

[darthdrew13]

dude...

you totally miss the point.

I have 10 Defiant/ Crusader shuttles.. but Im not bragging about it, nor do I have a vast fortune.

keep in mind a lot of us are just as unemployed or hard up as you do... (technically dude, Right now.. I am homeless, but Im not whinning about it, or complaining about it) we (like Lody said) find deals and specials so we can get what we want.

as my Grandmother used to say:

"He who wants will find a way, he who does not will make an excuse"

just as you say its not fair for people to "Lord things over you": it isnt fair for YOU to claim people who have more than you are "snobs" or greedy.

theres nothing wrong with someone wanting to buy 6 dial tones for their own collection, (Hell I have 109 ROC reactive armor figs) its THEIR collection. I dont bitch about the guys who go to joecon every year with thousands of dollars. I just enjoy what I have, and try my best to get what I want.

...one advantage is I try to make friends and have a positive air about myself so that people will be GLAD to hook me up, rather than chastize them for having more than me.

I think you missed this part...

Quote: But if they said "Hey, do you want to check out my Ferrari? I've been waiting a long time to get this." Im going to want to make them feel as good as they can about having that car because it is being presented in a much better way.

I don't hold anything against Aire for having what I call the "Best collection EVER". I'm always super positive about it.

I'm a reactive kind of guy. If you push negative on me, I'll defend myself. If you push positive on me or are neutral, I'm a super nice positive guy.

[darthdrew13]

they should make it a ross exclusive so everyone has a fair chance to own it

winner!!!

[Jeffrozup]

I agree. People had 10 months maybe more to sign up for the club and then club members had plenty of chances to pre-order more.

Exactly, I don't see how people can complain about something they had almost a year to take advantage of. It wasn't like the GIJCC announced it and two weeks later they closed out registration.

Normally the GIJCC announces its new figure after SDCC (around August or so) which is plenty of time to save up $42 to join in my opinion.

Now if they would have announced the carded Dial-Tone figure sooner than they did, I might have made plans to attend JoeCon to try and get some. That was a little short notice considering most will have to make travel arrangements, hotels, etc.

[Starfighter]

I seriously got the impression from those who are saying "I got mine and you had time to get yours" are coming across as elitist because they had the coin to get the figure and I didn't. If that is not the case I apologize. I do.

I don't wanna argue. I lost out. I just hope DT isn't going for an over inflated price when I can afford to buy one (or if I find one for trade). Sorry if I got a little hot headed. Just got pretty frustrated at those who were adamant no more figures be made if the demand was there.

I do not see it that way at all. I do not see others bragging that they had the money to get one at all. There were many, a lot of posts stating/telling people to join so that they would get theirs.

Also, when you say that you were hoping to get one later on at a non 'over inflated price', does that mean that you hope to buy it for $42 plus the 6 shipping? $48 total at that time. I am just asking?

[Steel Brigade]

let's keep it civil everybody.

[PhilDpino]

The biggest reason would be there would be no incentive to join the GIJCC if people can just realize they can sit around and get the figure whenever they want or going another route such as eBay, etc.



Actually at this point, making more would have the affect of getting people to join.

Follow me here:

They are sold out. But people still wants more. So they make more. At this point it goes into the store. $20 for Officer level member (people who already have a dial-tone and wants a second or more.)
$42 for trooper level and $62 for non-members. ($62 includes an automatic membership. So you end up paying for next years' membership and $20 dollars for the Dial-tone.)

So if you are not a member you become a member and get next years figure as well. Does it rob exclusivity..yes, granted but only a little. In way we are still welcoming a new member.

Or better how is someone who missed out this year getting a dial-tone later with a membership and next year's figure different from lets say a kid new to Joes who learned about the club after all this DT hub-bub dies down (never knew there was a dial-tone figure) joins the club and get's next years figure and while shopping the store sees a Dial-tone and buys it. He's still a member buying a previous year's figure.

If they make more you would basically fall into 2 categories:

an existing member who buys more

or

a new member who is buying a previous year's figure.

"While supplies last" doesn't necessarily mean they will promise to never make more. Look at the McRibb sandwich.

Whether an exclusive runs out or the club produces more doesn't make it any less a "club exclusive" you still have to be member to get it. It's just not as subjectively limited time as anyone else wants.

And let's not forget that there are people out there who constantly trash the club, but when they come out with a figure they want suddenly the club is soooo cool for giving them (if they joined in time) something one else will have.

[darthdrew13]

I do not see it that way at all. I do not see others bragging that they had the money to get one at all. There were many, a lot of posts stating/telling people to join so that they would get theirs.

Also, when you say that you were hoping to get one later on at a non 'over inflated price', does that mean that you hope to buy it for $42 plus the 6 shipping? $48 total at that time. I am just asking?

That would be fine. Because technically, that is the price you could get it for. It sucks to pay that much for 1 figure, but I would be fine paying that amount (as long as I had it in my wallet to spend).

[Quartermaine]

Ince again, I am seeing from some of the posts that we have not overcome this sense of entitlement. I am an old fart and chalk it up to differences in generations, but not everyone will have this figure that wants one. Through a variety of circumstances, not all can afford it, and will not be able to get it. I would love to get a Zaranna set, but SDCC sold out almost during the last con. is it fair? What does fair have to do with it? Not everyone gets a Flagg, or a Terrordrome, etc. It's only a repaint people. There are ways to make your own through SDS or Broken Arrow or just using your own creativity.

When I found out the the club figure is going to be loose in a baggie, and the GI Joe Con attendees get to buy one on the card, that did it for me. For my own preference, I would rather have a MOC Dial Tone for $45. They (the club) can keep the monthly newsletters, I would rather have it carded. So it didn't seem like club members at the officer level were as valued as Con goers. But that is their choice. I don't like it so I vote with my dollars and buy more from the custom casting people.

I really understand some of you who want more Dialtones to be made. I really do. I disagree with the whole paint app choice of the Brazil Mission con set. I don't expect the club or hasbro to make a set I like just to please me. I will customize a set for myself.

For those of you who want more to be made, I think money is the key factor. If Brian feels it is profitable to offer more then he will find a way. if not, oh well.

For those who want this to be limited, while someone already pointed out that these are only exclusive, well that sounds like you are more interested in the figure as an investment. Good luck with that.

You Joe

[Starfighter]

That would be fine. Because technically, that is the price you could get it for. It sucks to pay that much for 1 figure, but I would be fine paying that amount (as long as I had it in my wallet to spend).

I was just wondering why you were so upset. If it was the price of the figure, which, in reality, will sell for $25-$35 in a few months on Ebay. None of us like paying steep prices. However, if you want it asap, it costs you more. If I am able to get one on the club website, I will sell it to you for the cost (most likely, $20 plus $6 shipping) if they are available on there. Unfortunately, like many, I am not able to attend this year either. So it is a wait and see.

Just think, at the price of the club, you may just be able to get that Killer W.H.A.L.E. on Ebay.

[mr pawn]

Are the ones making the biggest deal about this matter the ones that didn't get one, or have most of you got one but just want others to have one to.

[Joecom]

I don't see why they couldn't make anymore? I mean even Rowdy had 750 and he is still rare as hell.

[PhilDpino]

For those of you who want more to be made, I think money is the key factor. If Brian feels it is profitable to offer more then he will find a way. if not, oh well.


You Joe


^^^This. Also, this is what the girl at the club said on the phone. It comes down to logistics and do-ability.

[Starfighter]

I posted on the club forum in the Ask the Club section earlier today a few hours ago on this topic. Let's see what they say?

[TARGETSIX]

You must have forgotten what a "print" is... lol

In that case will you be satisfied if I send you a photo of the Dialtone figure?

[PhilDpino]

Are the ones making the biggest deal about this matter the ones that didn't get one, or have most of you got one but just want others to have one to.

Actually, I'd like to have one to keep MISB to go with my MIB/MOC Collection and have one for play/display.

Somewhat greed I know. But hey, that's how I collect. I'm a MOC ompletist as well as a troop builder/displayer/player.

I'm fine if they don't make more. I'll keep the one I'm getting for my MOC Display. If i really want a second one to play with, I'll find a way if I have the money for it and the price is reasonable. I'll probably shell out a pretty penny for a carded DT also. (But only one for my MOC display.)

If they make more. The hopefully I'll get a second one. But I don't think it would devalue the sealed bag and definitely not the carded.

[wormser]

Humility dude....

theres a good chance that one of those people who bought 6 dial tones IS a scalper, and he will have them fro sale... COOL people on the Boards usually get the opportunely to buy from other cool people at cost.

im one of those cool peeps looking for another cool person to sell it to me for cost lol

[mr pawn]

Hey, i'm cool with people mgetting mad about this, the way the country and the world has been going lately its just one more thing given us all a headache, i don't know how its gonna work for sure down there at the con, thats all up to brian, he makes the rules up, i have a golden ticket and my wife has one, if i meet some of you guys down there that i know from here and your cool in my book,'' which i know who the cool ones are'', then i would sell you one of mine, there seems to be alot of cool guys on here, and theres also alot of assholes that think everythings a joke and like to bust balls, but i will help someone out , this i command!!

[Joecom]

I hope to find one I'd be happy with one for my MOC collection. I can't go to the con so it's near impossible for me to get one. What do the carded DT cost anyway?

[kingofpain26]

I hope to find one I'd be happy with one for my MOC collection. I can't go to the con so it's near impossible for me to get one. What do the carded DT cost anyway?

they havent said.

however, the carded Roddy Piper figure was 25 back in 07, and the club figure is 20 bucks.

so Im guessing 25-30 bucks.

[Joecom]

Thanks KOP. Based on that I'd pay $55 shipped to anyone who could get me one.

[PhilDpino]

Same.

[evilanimation]

I hope they do not make more....how am I suppose to gouge people for the extra ones I got?

[Starfighter]

Thanks KOP. Based on that I'd pay $55 shipped to anyone who could get me one.

You might as well get the 2012 membership right now so that you are guaranteed that figure and hope that the $20 bagged Dial-Tone is available to purchase online. So that you do not run into the same situation next year.

[Joecom]

You might as well get the 2012 membership right now so that you are guaranteed that figure and hope that the $20 bagged Dial-Tone is available to purchase online. So that you do not run into the same situation next year.

I am a member I'll bet getting the bagged DT when the club ships them.
But I won't be able to get a carded one which is what I really want.

[Starfighter]

I am a member I'll bet getting the bagged DT when the club ships them.
But I won't be able to get a carded one which is what I really want.

I see. Same here.

[wormser]

I am a member I'll bet getting the bagged DT when the club ships them.
But I won't be able to get a carded one which is what I really want.

you might be able to trade with a member who will be at joecon and just wants 1 open for a collection.....

[Bombardier]

as my Grandmother used to say:

"He who wants will find a way, he who does not will make an excuse"

Would you mind if I use your grandmother's quote in my signature?

[Scroll142]

call and ask where is Brian on the Sgt. Slaughter re-order.

[draconianguard]

I paid for mine a year ago when I joined and don't have one yet. Awesome.

[gunslingercbr]

I had a friend who was supposed to order a Dial-Tone for me with his membership and stalled and now they are sold out. my life will go on. would I have liked one? of course. but I chose a route that cost me the opportunity -- I could have easily signed up for a membership months ago and been guaranteed one; now, no such luck. that's my fault, and I certainly don't think the club should make more just to appease the collector market to complete their collection.

but, I don't have any problems with the club making more, because the club is in business to make money and gain members, and when more Dial-Tones are produced people will buy the figure at the membership price and the club will get more members, which was the point of the figure to begin with. I don't see why anyone would gripe that the club is trying to gain new members.

and if they are simply bought by existing members to scalp or trade, that will bring down the value as well, so it is win-win.

[evilanimation]

I bought extras for a couple lucky people.......

[ChaplainAsst]

I have no problem with them making more. isn't the idea to increase everyones enjoyment of this hobby? Plus it encourages the club to make figures people really want.

[Lody]

Darthdrew13,

So, who is it that is holding their Dialtone aquisition(s) over your head in a taunting way?

That's my question-cause that's not something I see-and if someone does it it usually is in the "hey-look what I got" in a less than snooty way

[Lody]

I do love though how you have some smart asses who have nothing to do but flaunt what they claim is to help others

[Bombardier]

I bought extras for a couple lucky people.......

Sell one to the OP instead of dangling them over everyone.

[tuan_tran73]

When are they shipping club Dial-tone?

[evilanimation]

Sell one to the OP instead of dangling them over everyone.

Nope, I am going to scalp the sh$t out of these guys like the majority of tankers would do....hahahahaha

[Zefram]

I think the club might have underestimated just how big the desire for modern era styled figures would be. If they made a few more Dial-Tones, and made exclusives in the future to reflect current desires, then it's all good.

Best way to insure you get one though is to join the club. You get a lot more than a figure for the money.

Anyone have an idea when officers should be getting theirs?

[CVdelgado]

You had plenty of time to get one when the membership drive was going on. Ever since they announced the figure would be the club giveaway, you've had plenty of time. Missing out is only your own fault. I for one, hope they don't make any more.

i just don't get this aspect of collecting? why such ill will toward others is felt by so many?

[yojoe1138]

Personally, I feel that this exclusive shouldn't have been one of the 25th figures. I feel that the 25th Dial Tone should have been available to the mass market because of the high demand for this item by individuals who most likely wouldn't have signed up for the membership otherwise.
I wouldn't have disagreed with the club offering a repaint (mission brazil) or one of the new characters such as the female Dial Tone.
I just feel that the characters who we were all hoping would see release as part of the ME/25th line should have been made for those lines.
Otherwise it just seems like extortion. I mean $42 for a figure which at most should be no more than $7.99. Apparently Cobra already succeeded in capturing Dial Tone and holding him for ransom -and by Cobra I mean the Club and Hasbro.
On the other hand it was smart for the club to land that exclusive, because they sold out and probably well exceed the subscriptions of their Club memberships. I just can't believe Hasbro would have agreed to this. I guess they will just make their money on Destro; Duke; Snake Eyes; Cobra Commander figures.

[CVdelgado]

why wouldnt you want them to make more though? i dont get it. just so you can have something that others dont? the feeling of being exclusive or something? im not complaining that i didnt get one, but i just dont see why you wouldnt want others that "missed out" to have one without spending 500 dollars

wow, agreed. whats going on here? not cool tankers, not cool. all of you talkin about "helping tankers out" and look at you now.

[CVdelgado]

I hate to be pedantic, but if they produce more and continue to offer them for sale under the same terms as before (must join the club to get one) they would still be "exclusive". "Exclusive" and "limited edition" aren't the same thing.

The purpose of this figure - as has been for every club exclusive so far - is to stimulate people to join the club. This one obviously worked very well and if they can make another 1,000 (or whatever number) of them and sell them all too, then why wouldn't they? That's another 1,000 dues-paying members of their club.

And why would anyone be opposed to them making more? More people in the Joe club = more attention to GI Joe by both Hasbro and the collector's club = better product and conventions in the future.

Compared to that, any one person's desire to have a rarer item (why - so they can peddle it on EBay for a few extra bucks? so they can brag to others about what a rare item they own?) is insignificant.

word.

[Scroll142]

has people started receiving them yet?

[CVdelgado]

Are the ones making the biggest deal about this matter the ones that didn't get one, or have most of you got one but just want others to have one to.

i signed up on time to get one. i just cant believe all these tankers, especially the ones who always brag about helping others, wishing their fellow tankers such ill will in acquiring a figure needed to complete their ME GI Joe collection.

it won't hurt you/cost you anything, unless you're planning to scalp...

[Lody]

You are NOT paying $42 for a figure!

Why can't people get that through their heads?

You get so much more than that-the $42 I pay INCLUDES the figures plus all the other perks I get.

As a club member I can purchase these figures for about $6 a figure and they were not released anywhere else:

http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=2071

[Dod Ear]

For the record: I joined the club to get Dial Tone and I'm hoping they make more so I can help out a good friend and would love it if other joe fans got the chance too.

Does anyone realize how ironic these arguments are when compared with the Slaughter-gate fiasco? I didn't see too many posts saying 'an exclusive is an exclusive' or 'I hope they don't make more.' Why the change? Apparently because those people got the exclusive this time.

[Lody]

For the record: I joined the club to get Dial Tone and I'm hoping they make more so I can help out a good friend and would love it if other joe fans got the chance too.

Does anyone realize how ironic these arguments are when compared with the Slaughter-gate fiasco? I didn't see too many posts saying 'an exclusive is an exclusive' or 'I hope they don't make more.' Why the change? Apparently because those people got the exclusive this time.

An exclusive is an exclusive and not meant for everyone ESP when you had ample time and ways to get them.

I bit the bullet that Saturday nght and picked up both Sarges from the club because there was a slight chance I wouldnt get him that Monday. But to demand that more be made because you missed out for whatever the reason is crazy and asinine

[WeaponXCustoms]

You are NOT paying $42 for a figure!

Why can't people get that through their heads?

You get so much more than that-the $42 I pay INCLUDES the figures plus all the other perks I get.

As a club member I can purchase these figures for about $6 a figure and they were not released anywhere else:

G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=2071)

you are if you just buy Dial Tone and then you can pay another 35$ for those 25th wannabes

btw this phone call is useless without pics

[WeEatOurDead]

I hope they make a brazillion more of them and I hope they all come with swords...and pink communications backpacks.

[mr pawn]

I think the club should just change their mind about selling them at the con and just list them in their no auction site, then, every body has a fair chance to get one, i don't care, i will buy it any way it comes up, i was checking the registration page numerous times everyday waiting for the tickets to come up for sell, i got right on there just when it came up and got mine, i knew from watching how alot of joes and toys and comic books have been selling over the last year, thousands of more people are getting back into this, from all of the tv shows that are on every channel telling people how much money they can make and what a good investment toys are, its all the newjacks that are making everything sellout and hard for all of us true hard core collectors that have been here, gi joe isn't going any where, wedon't have the following star wars does, but it is getting a hell of alot bigger every day

[ChaplainAsst]

Look, the only rational behind begrudging gijcc from making more figures is perceived value. If there are less available, they are worth more. And the only reason for this is to either scalp or sell later as a collection. If you are just glad to get a Dial-tone, why would you care how many other people have one? It would seem that Joe fans should want everyone to enjoy this that want one. And why not want gijcc to profit from greater sales? The only reason seems greed.

[Starfighter]

you are if you just buy Dial Tone and then you can pay another 35$ for those 25th wannabes

btw this phone call is useless without pics

Agreed. Pics or it didn't happen.

[Lody]

Look, the only rational behind begrudging gijcc from making more figures is perceived value. If there are less available, they are worth more. And the only reason for this is to either scalp or sell later as a collection. If you are just glad to get a Dial-tone, why would you care how many other people have one? It would seem that Joe fans should want everyone to enjoy this that want one. And why not want gijcc to profit from greater sales? The only reason seems greed.

Not true-it's an exclusive and I like to have exclusives that not everyone has in my collection.

[Bombardier]

Look, the only rational behind begrudging gijcc from making more figures is perceived value. If there are less available, they are worth more. And the only reason for this is to either scalp or sell later as a collection. If you are just glad to get a Dial-tone, why would you care how many other people have one? It would seem that Joe fans should want everyone to enjoy this that want one. And why not want gijcc to profit from greater sales? The only reason seems greed.

uh, no. It's about being a member of a supposed exclusive club that we pay our dues. It's been made clear for you to be guaranteed a figure, you'd have to join the club by a certain date. I don't see how it's ill will to expect others to follow the rules.

[Dod Ear]

Admittedly I didn't read 17 pages. Did people come out and demand more be made or was that brought up by the club stating Brian was 'talking to China'? If so, I fully agree with you that there's no entitlement and that would be pretty out of line.

My point is that there was no protest when Hasbro announced that they were going to find away to re-release Slaughter. So why now?

[Lody]

Admittedly I didn't read 16 pages. Did people come out and demand more be made or was that eve brought up by the club stating Brian was 'talking to China'? If so, I fully agree with you that there's no entitlement and that would be pretty out of line.

My point is that there was no protest when Hasbro announced that they were going to find away to re-release Slaughter. So why now?

There was-there was a slew of it. If people missed the boat, they had all kinds of opportunities to get him but kept dragging their feet.

[Lody]

uh, no. It's about being a member of a supposed exclusive club that we pay our dues. It's been made clear for you to be guaranteed a figure, you'd have to join the club by a certain date. I don't see how it's ill will to expect others to follow the rules.

Exactly

[WeaponXCustoms]

I guess I missed the whole point here, they garunteed you a figure if you signed up before a certain date right? But If its not the free yearly figure and you didnt sign up in time they dont owe you anything. Now if it is the free figure and you signed up, you have something to bitch about. Im not a member with the joe club im on the TF one...so is this supposed to be the freebie?

[mr pawn]

So all the hisstankers on here that will be selling at the con and set up at lots of other shows, should give everyone a good deal and sell us stuff for alot more than its worth, i don't know howmany of you have been to a joecon or any other show, but most of the nice stuff is priced really high up there and they don't like comeing down, for the carded dt, it would be better for everyone, even us gt holders to only be allowed to get 2 period, but if they let you get 6, well then i'm getting 6, i like them, i want them, for my collection, if there came a day i did want to see them, then its my business to do so and no one elses.

[Lody]

I guess I missed the whole point here, they garunteed you a figure if you signed up before a certain date right? But If its not the free yearly figure and you didnt sign up in time they dont owe you anything. Now if it is the free figure and you signed up, you have something to bitch about. Im not a member with the joe club im on the TF one...so is this supposed to be the freebie?

If you signed up my March 16-which is right around the same time EVERY YEAR, you are guaran-Damn-teed a figure. Anything after that and it's a crapshoot.

Look, everyone was caught off guard by the popularity of both the Python Patrol/Mission Brazil sets and Dial Tone and didn't expect them to sell out. It hasn't happened in 8 years. You had lots of opportunities. If you didn't get them-look in the mirror and blame that person.

[Bombardier]

If you didn't get them-look in the mirror and blame that person.

That person is a real son-of-a-bitch, let me tell you

[Lody]

That person is a real son-of-a-bitch, let me tell you

He's a real asshole at times too

[JoeMama]

you should have started talking dirty..
they like that .
so I hear.

[WeaponXCustoms]

If you signed up my March 16-which is right around the same time EVERY YEAR, you are guaran-Damn-teed a figure. Anything after that and it's a crapshoot.

Look, everyone was caught off guard by the popularity of both the Python Patrol/Mission Brazil sets and Dial Tone and didn't expect them to sell out. It hasn't happened in 8 years. You had lots of opportunities. If you didn't get them-look in the mirror and blame that person.

so are people that signed up in time missing out, or is it just the un-initiated folks that are griping?

[mr pawn]

So much as been said onthis thread today i have no idea anymore, what the hell are we even talking about agin

[Lody]

so are people that signed up in time missing out, or is it just the un-initiated folks that are griping?

The ones complaining missed the deadline for a variety of reasons

[MightyMegs]

I renewed awhile back, so I've got a Dial-Tone coming... but I have no problem with the club doing another production run. It's still a club exclusive. And it doesn't diminish my collection any if more fans can have Dial-Tones in their collections too.

[Lody]

So much as been said onthis thread today i have no idea anymore, what the hell are we even talking about agin

Me

We're talking aout me and the awesomeness that is me

[Lody]

you should have started talking dirty..
they like that .
so I hear.

No, they don't

PLEASE

Trust me on this one

[mr pawn]

Alls i know is theres some upset peeps out there in joe land, theres a storm a coming, and it ani't gonna be pretty.

[mr pawn]

Lody, you speak words of wisdom, i fully understand all your saying, but you can not make everyone understand.

[evilanimation]

I renewed awhile back, so I've got a Dial-Tone coming... but I have no problem with the club doing another production run. It's still a club exclusive. And it doesn't diminish my collection any if more fans can have Dial-Tones in their collections too.

Agreed...

[Lody]

Lody, you speak words of wisdom, i fully understand all your saying, but you can not make everyone understand.

But I can damn sure try

:D

[mr pawn]

You go boy, you go, i have tried on other threads so much over the last week , i am worn out, i think most of the ones that don't get it are doing it just for the hell of it, because its all common sense, when its been exsplained 100's of times on here to every one, what can you do, you have differant classes of collectors on here, theres 100 things to say about this subject, and half of the people reading all this is going to disafree with it, it the way it is

[Mainframe]

Dialtone is being released? When did this happen?

[Saboteur]

I just got off the phone with George Lucas.

They're making more Jar Jar Binks.

[USAgent]

I just got off the phone with George Lucas.

They're making more Jar Jar Binks.

But is it the Jar Jar dressed as an Ewok exclusive ??? That one is worth BANK!

[mr pawn]

Say it isn't so,not jarjar,i have a case of episode ones i was gonna being selling soon on ebay, now i isn't gonna get shit for him, that sucks

[mr pawn]

Lody has left the building

[mr pawn]

So, like i was saying, whats the deal on the dialtones, huh. Just kidding.

[mr pawn]

If i gets up in the line first, and brian lets me,i will buy them all and put parachuttes on them and drop them off the top of the building, it will be so cool.

[Saboteur]

But is it the Jar Jar dressed as an Ewok exclusive ??? That one is worth BANK!

Nosa. It's Jar Jar dressed as George Lucas with greena flannel shirta.


Say it isn't so,not jarjar,i have a case of episode ones i was gonna being selling soon on ebay, now i isn't gonna get shit for him, that sucks

Yousa shits out of lucka.

[volleydan]

I was a member of the club for six years running until I let my membership lapse last year. I "quit" because I wasn't going to be able to make the con after they decided to move it to May and screw the Canadian con over and also because they stopped making o-ring figures.

I have been around the block with the GIJCC and "you had a year to buy it" is a flawed argument. While it's techically true that you could have signed up a year ago and received a DialTone, the reality is that if you signed up a year ago you had NO CLUE what you would get at the time. IIRC, they only announced him as this year's figure a couple months ago. You don't join "for the figure" until you know what the figure is (unless you're into MOTUC, that is-they sell $600 annual subs for figures that won't be revealed for MONTHS).

If you're an annual subscriber it didn't matter, but if you are someone who really only wants that figure, you only had a couple months to get off the fence. Is that still long enough? Probably....but we still shouldn't rely on hyperbole to prop our arguments up....

[Saboteur]

If there's demand for more Dial Tone, then Brian should see about making more. And that's what he's doing. It's a good thing because it helps the club membership grow and it reveals to the club and Hasbro what is in demand or desired by the fans.

I think it's great that people actually want something. I'm not sure, but in contrast, I think the exclusives from past years are still available in abundance.

[sjames90]

I think the exclusives from past years are still available in abundance.

Except for Big Lob. But the rest, yes.

[Saboteur]

Then this is only a good thing for the community and the brand.

[Techno Viper]

What they need to do is make more of em but with a different colored belt buckle or some small variation. Then we can sit back and watch everybody go ape poop over the new cool variant that's "way superior to the original" but not designed different.

[teemu8]

I find it funny that it took a "25th anniversary" made character to sell out figures for the Club.Goes to show that the 80's nostalgic RAH is what people want.If they were smart,they would keep getting a new character each year- How about that Zandar,since were getting Zarana at SDCC

[Roshan]

I find it funny that it took a "25th anniversary" made character to sell out figures for the Club.

Nope. Big Lob sold out last year too.

[Bombardier]

If there's demand for more Dial Tone, then Brian should see about making more. And that's what he's doing. It's a good thing because it helps the club membership grow and it reveals to the club and Hasbro what is in demand or desired by the fans.

I think it's great that people actually want something. I'm not sure, but in contrast, I think the exclusives from past years are still available in abundance.

how exactly do you see club membership growing if more Dialtones get made. That makes no sense.

[volleydan]

how exactly do you see club membership growing if more Dialtones get made. That makes no sense.

You have to join the club to buy a Dial Tone.....

[Bombardier]

You have to join the club to buy a Dial Tone.....

no, you don't. it's cheaper to pay $20 to a current member than it is to pay 60+ for a membership plus figure.

[Zefram]

I find it funny that it took a "25th anniversary" made character to sell out figures for the Club.Goes to show that the 80's nostalgic RAH is what people want.If they were smart,they would keep getting a new character each year- How about that Zandar,since were getting Zarana at SDCC

Your reasoning is backwards. The reason the figure is so popular is that there have been very few 25th style figures made in the last couple of years, and so demand is great. If they'd made him while 25th was warming the pegs, I doubt the reception would have been as dramatic.

Old Japanese saying go, "No spice makes food taste as good as hunger".

[Mercenary696]

I am happy to see that he sold so well. I hope this means there will be more characters from 25th line made as well by the GI JOE Club. Please continue with Airtight, Footloose, Leatherneck, Iceberg, Zandar, Heat Viper, ect......

[CobraCrimson]

I hope they don't make more of them, it is a club special and not a "over the counter" so-to-say item as every other normal carded figure/boxed vehicle at retail.

Have no fear though, I'm sure there will be tons on ebay once they are shipped out. Most likely the price will be around $30 + s/h since that's normally what these have gone for on ebay in the past. It's all about supply and demand though, if everyone wants one right away, the sellers will realize the "hotness demand" for these items and raise the prices to whatever they feal people will pay.....SDCC Slaughters sound familiar?

[Jeffrozup]

You have to join the club to buy a Dial Tone.....

No you don't, you can have the free membership and just pay for the figure without actually subscribing to the club.

[mr pawn]

good night john boy

[mr pawn]

zzzzzttttt

[kingofpain26]

I am happy to see that he sold so well. I hope this means there will be more characters from 25th line made as well by the GI JOE Club. Please continue with Airtight, Footloose, Leatherneck, Iceberg, Zandar, Heat Viper, ect......

honestly?

THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE CLUB!

the club will ofter make the figures that Hasbro refuses to make.

but you also have to realize that it is a double edged sword.

Yes they club will make Zandar, Iceberg,..etc... but they will also be limited to 600 figures.. so EVERYONE ISN'T GONNA GET ONE!

...and we'll have more threads like this ...

[Jeffrozup]

I was a member of the club for six years running until I let my membership lapse last year. I "quit" because I wasn't going to be able to make the con after they decided to move it to May and screw the Canadian con over and also because they stopped making o-ring figures.

I have been around the block with the GIJCC and "you had a year to buy it" is a flawed argument. While it's techically true that you could have signed up a year ago and received a DialTone, the reality is that if you signed up a year ago you had NO CLUE what you would get at the time. IIRC, they only announced him as this year's figure a couple months ago. You don't join "for the figure" until you know what the figure is (unless you're into MOTUC, that is-they sell $600 annual subs for figures that won't be revealed for MONTHS).

If you're an annual subscriber it didn't matter, but if you are someone who really only wants that figure, you only had a couple months to get off the fence. Is that still long enough? Probably....but we still shouldn't rely on hyperbole to prop our arguments up....

Dial-Tone was announced on Sept. 1st of last year that makes it just over eight months people have known that he was going to be the club exclusive figure. While technically it's not a year, that is still a pretty lengthy time to decide about the figure and to join.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-news-rumors/85968-gijcc-membership-figure-dial-tone.html

[ChaplainAsst]

no, you don't. it's cheaper to pay $20 to a current member than it is to pay 60+ for a membership plus figure.

I get your point but ... Where was this complaint a month ago when the same figure was offered at the same price? The only difference is gijcc said they sold out of their stock. If they hadn't admitted this, would people be complaining? I can easily see this encouraging membership as most "extras" will be scalped or sold at very high prices - maybe enough for someone to just join.

[Saboteur]

no, you don't. it's cheaper to pay $20 to a current member than it is to pay 60+ for a membership plus figure.

And if they're a limited number of them, and you have people wanting to keep theirs because it makes them feel special and warm inside, there's not going to be many going for $20.

It's simple.
1. People want one.
2. There are no more available.
3. Brian orders more.
4. More people join the club.

[ChaplainAsst]

honestly?

THIS IS EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE CLUB!

the club will ofter make the figures that Hasbro refuses to make.

but you also have to realize that it is a double edged sword.

Yes they club will make Zandar, Iceberg,..etc... but they will also be limited to 600 figures.. so EVERYONE ISN'T GONNA GET ONE!

...and we'll have more threads like this ...

Actually, the only limit set is the date the offer ends. No time didbthey put out a cut off for number of members getting the free figure. This year they obviously had quite a few extra beyond the number of members.

[Bombardier]

I get your point but ... Where was this complaint a month ago when the same figure was offered at the same price? The only difference is gijcc said they sold out of their stock. If they hadn't admitted this, would people be complaining? I can easily see this encouraging membership as most "extras" will be scalped or sold at very high prices - maybe enough for someone to just join.

Please rephrase, I don't entirely understand what you're trying to say.

What "complaint" are you referring to?

A month ago, you could become a member and get a Dialtone for 42 bucks total. If more were made today, you'd have to pay 62 dollars to become a member and order a Dialtone, and that's not even including shipping.

[Saboteur]

No you don't, you can have the free membership and just pay for the figure without actually subscribing to the club.

That's still money going to the Club.

[Bombardier]

And if they're a limited number of them, and you have people wanting to keep theirs because it makes them feel special and warm inside, there's not going to be many going for $20.

It's simple.
1. People want one.
2. There are no more available.
3. Brian orders more.
4. More people join the club.

Still not seeing why people would join the club at that point. Even if I wanted to double my money and sell you a Dialtone for $40, that's still cheaper than the $62+ you'd have to pay on your own.

[ChaplainAsst]

Please rephrase, I don't entirely understand what you're trying to say.

What "complaint" are you referring to?

A month ago, you could become a member and get a Dialtone for 42 bucks total. If more were made today, you'd have to pay 62 dollars to become a member and order a Dialtone, and that's not even including shipping.

They sold extras for twenty bucks last month and no one complained.

I can easily imagine scampers charging $50+ for a dial tone. At that point, joining might be a better alternative, plus you get next years figure.

[SNAKE EYES]

Still not seeing why people would join the club at that point. Even if I wanted to double my money and sell you a Dialtone for $40, that's still cheaper than the $62+ you'd have to pay on your own.

But now your speculating on what people would be willing to sell their extra Dial-Tones for and we don't even know if anyone is willing to sell an extra Dial Tone, so technically your only option would be the Club if they end up getting more made, but now I'm speculating :D

[KingBiohazerd]

I didn't join the club and won't be getting one and I'm not losing sleep over it if I wanted him that bad I would have joined and I also don't think they should make anymore either.

[Saboteur]

Isn't it ironic, that many of the people wanting to keep Dial Tone out of the hands of as many people as possible, are the same people who have talked the talk about the longetivity and importance of the sustainability of the brand for the bigger picture, when now they're more concerned with their own personal collections and impulsive urges to feel priviliged than something that is actually good for the brand.

Heaven forbid the Club makes something that people actually want. I'm pretty sure that Brian wishes the same enthusiasm shown for Dial Tone would've been applied to those former figures that are still available years later.

[Bombardier]

But now your speculating on what people would be willing to sell their extra Dial-Tones for and we don't even know if anyone is willing to sell an extra Dial Tone, so technically your only option would be the Club, but now I'm speculating :D

I'm be willing to sell for $25 plus shipping. More than enough people on this board would also do the same. Or have we completely become cynical about our fellow tankers these days?

[ChaplainAsst]

Still not seeing why people would join the club at that point. Even if I wanted to double my money and sell you a Dialtone for $40, that's still cheaper than the $62+ you'd have to pay on your own.

But a reasonable person may just realize that
1. $42 is for a monthly magazine AND next years figure, which they likely will want.
2. 20 plus s/h is not far off from what most exclusive figures cost.
3. They would rather trust gijcc than a scalper.

[Saboteur]

Still not seeing why people would join the club at that point. Even if I wanted to double my money and sell you a Dialtone for $40, that's still cheaper than the $62+ you'd have to pay on your own.

You might sale me one for $40 dollars. Judging by the responses of those like you who don't want a second run produced, it appears most everyone else would rather keep theirs for something stupid like bragging rights.

That doesn't help Club membership.

[Bombardier]

Isn't it ironic, that many of the people wanting to keep Dial Tone out of the hands of as many people as possible, are the same people who have talked the talk about the longetivity and importance of the sustainability of the brand for the bigger picture, when now they're more concerned with their own personal collections and impulsive urges to feel priviliged than something that is actually good for the brand.


Which people are you referring to? Who are these many people that you are referring to who fit all three of these categories?

[SNAKE EYES]

I'm be willing to sell for $25 plus shipping. More than enough people on this board would also do the same. Or have we completely become cynical about our fellow tankers these days?

No but it's all speculation... we don't know who has extras and who is willing to sell them for close to the club's price plus shipping.


Well except for you... :)

[Bombardier]

But a reasonable person may just realize that
1. $42 is for a monthly magazine AND next years figure, which they likely will want.

If they had thought that, they wouldn't be needing a Dialtone at this point would they?

[Saboteur]

But now your speculating on what people would be willing to sell their extra Dial-Tones for and we don't even know if anyone is willing to sell an extra Dial Tone, so technically your only option would be the Club if they end up getting more made, but now I'm speculating :D

Exactly.

Well, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes, eh?

Bottom line: They've sold out, there's a demand and Brian is looking into producing more. Some people will have to set aside their egos for once and be happy that something G I Joe related, that's not Lowlight or a cancelled cheap item at Ross is actually desired.

[Bombardier]

You might sale me one for $40 dollars. Judging by the responses of those like you who don't want a second run produced, it appears most everyone else would rather keep theirs for something stupid like bragging rights.

That doesn't help Club membership.

I just want the one free one to pose with the rest of my toys. How is that stupid? What makes you think that's bragging? I went by the rules, I paid what was asked, I did what was necessary to be part of the exclusive club. What's wrong with wanting everyone else to play by the rules?

[SNAKE EYES]

I hope they make 1,000 more and the Club sells them all.

:)

[Jeffrozup]

That's still money going to the Club.

You are right but I am willing to guess that the majority of people who subscribe to the GIJCC actually buy other items throughout the year so they would benefit more from the paid memberships than if somebody joined for free and paid $42 for the club exclusive figure.

Look at last year for example. Many people passed on the Sgt. Slaughter combo set because they were not a paying member while those who were paying members sold them out fast because they got a good deal.

Those who are free members should be lucky the club decides to even sell the figures for non-paying members. Me personally, I think the exclusives should only be able to be purchased by paying members. They should eliminate the "middle price" and either sell them for the low one or the one that includes the subscription.

[teemu8]

Your reasoning is backwards. The reason the figure is so popular is that there have been very few 25th style figures made in the last couple of years, and so demand is great. If they'd made him while 25th was warming the pegs, I doubt the reception would have been as dramatic.

Old Japanese saying go, "No spice makes food taste as good as hunger".

perhaps,but their is STILL a demand for "25th" RAH figures and oviously the demand for an RAH 25th Dial tone helped sell more clubs subs...heck I even joined for the 1st time ever..why? because of the "25th" figure to keep adding to my collection...so yeah,it made a difference in sales

[Jeffrozup]

I hope they make 1,000 more and the Club sells them all.

:)

We know that they are making 600 carded Dial-Tones. Think we will ever know how many GIJCC subscribers there are and loose Dial-Tone figures were made?

I am sure the club gauges its production numbers based on previous year's memberships and new memberships within a certain period of time. Anybody think there is a wide gap between the number of figures produced from the 2004 exlclusive to Big Lob last year?

[ChaplainAsst]

If they had thought that, they wouldn't be needing a Dialtone at this point would they?

Not necessarily. At any rate, isn't the chance someone might join a good thing? Isn't the fact that the gijcc is doing well enough to produce more a good thing for everyone in the long run? Maybe quality will improve, more unique parts will be made, the magazine will be longer, etc. If nothing else for the consumer, we are telling gijcc to make more Classic ME figures.

[CVdelgado]

Not necessarily. At any rate, isn't the chance someone might join a good thing? Isn't the fact that the gijcc is doing well enough to produce more a good thing for everyone in the long run? Maybe quality will improve, more unique parts will be made, the magazine will be longer, etc. If nothing else for the consumer, we are telling gijcc to make more Classic ME figures.

word up.

[xSwamiJayx]

Things I don't care about, part 1:

Dial-Tone.

[Bombardier]

If nothing else for the consumer, we are telling gijcc to make more Classic ME figures.

I think that's a WIN for everyone, no matter which side of the fence you're on.

This year, we've given the Club a clear message on what should be done with future exclusives.

[Jeffrozup]

Not necessarily. At any rate, isn't the chance someone might join a good thing? Isn't the fact that the gijcc is doing well enough to produce more a good thing for everyone in the long run? Maybe quality will improve, more unique parts will be made, the magazine will be longer, etc. If nothing else for the consumer, we are telling gijcc to make more Classic ME figures.

I think the GIJCC will continue to make classic 25th/ME figures based on the reaction to the Dial-Tone figure this year.

What strikes me as funny is reading all the threads since September when Dial-Tone was announced and it seemed the majority of people were not excited about him and now a lot of people are complaining because the deadline has passed and they might not get him.

[Bombardier]

Isn't it ironic, that many of the people wanting to keep Dial Tone out of the hands of as many people as possible, are the same people who have talked the talk about the longetivity and importance of the sustainability of the brand for the bigger picture, when now they're more concerned with their own personal collections and impulsive urges to feel priviliged than something that is actually good for the brand.


Maybe you missed the earlier post, so I'll repeat. Who exactly are you talking about? That's a very broad generalization and I doubt you have any true examples of this irony you speak of.

[A.C.T.]

So collecting is all about money? I collect Joes to have cool stuff that I want. I don't care about value.

***not targeted at any one in particular***I don't mind a collectible gaining value later on due to popularity, but instant value just because an item is made in fewer numbers is dumb. Exclusives should be made to meet demand so consumers will shop at the retailer offering them. That is why a retailer offers an exclusive. Retailers could care less about the secondary market. The mail-in Doc had a second production run because Hasbro saw the demand and met it. I don't care about his value now. Deal with that in 10 years. The JoeClub Dial Tone was genious for them to offer because it is a figure high in demand. If they don't make more, they are losing the opportunity to make more money (the ONLY reason ANY profit making company is in business). Collectors crying because they followed the "rules" and got their figure and not wanting others to get the figure is pure and simple crap. They are saying "I want to be special!" Get over it. If you want to be special, figure out how to make a website that makes billions of dollars within 10 years. That's special. Just because you are 1 of X amount of people who have a plastic action figure doesn't make you special.

Back on track to mr pawn's post, I am not mad that someone gets to go to JoeCon and I don't. Never will be. I hope and pray everyone who attends JoeCon has a safe and fun time. All I can hope for is a few pictures posted so I can see what I have missed. Trust me, I have wanted to go to EVERY Star Wars Celebration but have only been able to make it to the 3rd one. I know how to get over not being able to attend a Con. I ONLY get upset at someone who has no pull in a companies decisions teling me "Tuff tooties, you can't have a chance at the exclusive figure this year. I'm special and you aren't". It's up to the JoeClub to decide if there is enough demand to make more figs and hence, more money. Not a collector. Date restrictions for the club figures are an way to create an inherent amount of demand. "You gotta get it now". But rules like that are broken all the time because of what? Money. Just look at all of the vintage Star Wars figure mail-in offers that kept getting extended. Why did they do that? Money. Offers get extended all the time due to demand (or sometimes overstock that needs to be moved out).

Can anyone give me an example of how NOT making more of these could benefit the GIJCC or the collecting community?

Because so far, it seems that what I'm hearing from people who don't want more made is "I have mine so to hell with everyone else - I want these to be valuable."

While that mentality can result in some pretty impressive individual collections, it does NOTHING to actually help the GI Joe brand, the community, or anyone else but yourself. Occasionally, even in the "dog eat dog" world of toy collecting, you have to look beyond yourself, though.

GI Joe doesn't have the cachet to be a "permanent brand". It's the bastard stepchild of Hasbro's boys toys division, the suits in Hollywood, and even the collector's club itself.....THEY all want to deal with Transformers. Look no further than wave after wave of canceled product or news of major retailers dropping Joe for proof.

Because of this, the Joe brand relies heavily on its collector community to stay alive. People like Gyre, the guys at Joe Declassified, and others have had a definite (and positive) impact on the Joe brand - because they care about the brand and not just their own damn collections.

So when an item actually sells out, and they actually want to make more, maybe we should all be happy that PEOPLE WANT JOES instead of griping that now someone else will have one. Thfis type of enthusiasm over an item just might prolong the survival of the brand. We need to show Hasbro and the GIJCC that we will support the right kind of product when they put it out.

Otherwise, we'll all be sitting here very shortly complaining that there is no Joe product on the shelves anymore.....
Great post. Very spot on. Good to see someone concerned with the greater good for Joe's rather than themselves.

[neurocamerman]

This might be the wrong place to post this but I don't spend an awful lot of time on here so blame it on that. :)

If anyone is going to have a spare Dialtone with the intention of selling then please pm me.

[arashikage tat]

I'm sure this has been said already, but while I can see where people are coming from saying "it's a club exclusive and you've had more than enough time to get it and if you chose not to too bad!"

I was one of those people who never cared for the club and when I saw this Dial Tone I knew I wanted it and didn't want to risk missing out so I signed up for it and I'm glad I did, but there are a lot of extenuating circumstances for other tankers that I'm sure go beyond "You've had enough time and if you didn't sign up that's your fault"

So even though I know I'm getting one, I still hope they make more and that other tankers are able to get them. I mean what's the harm who's it hurting? I see it as a positive that more people who for whatever reason were not able to get one at a particular time may have the opportunity down the road.

[89PILOT]

I can exclusively reveal that collecting joes and getting them shipped over here totally excludes me from even attempting to get my hands on "exclusives".

I'm 2 pinkies,one thumb,one kidney,5 toes and half my brain down already with this plastic crack addiction!!!

Gotta love it eh!!!

[Zefram]

Can anyone give me an example of how NOT making more of these could benefit the GIJCC or the collecting community?

Because so far, it seems that what I'm hearing from people who don't want more made is "I have mine so to hell with everyone else - I want these to be valuable."

While that mentality can result in some pretty impressive individual collections, it does NOTHING to actually help the GI Joe brand, the community, or anyone else but yourself. Occasionally, even in the "dog eat dog" world of toy collecting, you have to look beyond yourself, though.

GI Joe doesn't have the cachet to be a "permanent brand". It's the bastard stepchild of Hasbro's boys toys division, the suits in Hollywood, and even the collector's club itself.....THEY all want to deal with Transformers. Look no further than wave after wave of canceled product or news of major retailers dropping Joe for proof.

Because of this, the Joe brand relies heavily on its collector community to stay alive. People like Gyre, the guys at Joe Declassified, and others have had a definite (and positive) impact on the Joe brand - because they care about the brand and not just their own damn collections.

So when an item actually sells out, and they actually want to make more, maybe we should all be happy that PEOPLE WANT JOES instead of griping that now someone else will have one. This type of enthusiasm over an item just might prolong the survival of the brand. We need to show Hasbro and the GIJCC that we will support the right kind of product when they put it out.

Otherwise, we'll all be sitting here very shortly complaining that there is no Joe product on the shelves anymore.....

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[CrimsonGuard101]

Yeah I agree. you dotn have to over saturate but if something sells out in 2 seconds and the exlcuives go away they should at least reissue the character later on in some capcity, be it a repaint or something so the "exclusive" die hards can keep thier precious exclusives all to themselves, but\ spread the love...man, planning on paying thousands to go to some adult kids show or on ebay later on is just silly. Let the rest of us have a shot at the character as well...you get a magazine and a discount for being a memeber, be happy with that and let the figures come to every who wants them in thier collections...

[666Werecat]

I can exclusively reveal that collecting joes and getting them shipped over here totally excludes me from even attempting to get my hands on "exclusives".

I'm 2 pinkies,one thumb,one kidney,5 toes and half my brain down already with this plastic crack addiction!!!

Gotta love it eh!!!

Are you saying that you can't get things shipped internationally? More or less my whole collection, joes being about 1/4 of my entire collection has come from overseas.

[ShockVal]

I hope they make 5 million of them out of beef jerky and hand them out to homeless people only. Then all the people who don't have one have to watch as the homeless people eat them. Hahahahaha! Die! Dialtone Exclusive! Die! chompa chompa chompa!

[jiffy18]

I don't have one and I probably won't get one. But I agree that they shouldn't make more 'cuz if they did then what's the point of having it as an exclusive

[mr pawn]

would you like a whaaa burger and some french cries with that dialtone , no, ok, theres 25 pages of points made on the thread, its great that so many people want the figure, but it will only hurt the joe line over time, when execlusives and liminted items come out, and sell out to fast, it is becaus of this fact, if they know it will be made in infinite amounts, it would not sell out, this is a fact, i am a 30 collector of just about everything, this is called the beanie baby effect, over doing a toy line will kill it over time.