Just got off the phone with the GI Joe Club... possible new run of Dial Tones

[draconianguard]

I just emailed them about the status of my figure. I joined on April 4th. Here is what the email states when I joined-

"The free club figures will arrive in late Spring 2011 which has yet to be determined and will ship to you automatically upon arrival. *Please keep your mailing information updated with our office, so when the items arrive they will ship to the correct address. *Last years figures*were 2010 3 3/4-Big Lob /12"-Urban Adventurer,*2009 3 3/4Destro Frogman Undertow /12" Black Talking Commander and these items can still be purchased through the club store. Please let me know if you have any questions."

It's total bs I don't have one now. I wonder how many others paid around the time I did and didn't receive one?

[KushViper]

I give up! Now I hope they make more so all of the babies just shut-the-fuck up about it. Who cares about the members of the club? Who cares what their feeling about it are? Lets just cave in to a bunch of cry-babies that have NO financial relationship with the club and there for NO say in the matter.

[Turtle Master]

Did everyone who joined by the deadline get a figure? I'm confused as to how the club failed to meet demand.

[Starfighter]

STOP freaking out! No one got their figure yet. The club states in their brochure/agreement that it will be mailed out after the deadline and will take 6 to 8 weeks to receive it. Usually, it is here around April 15-21.



I just emailed them about the status of my figure. I joined on April 4th. Here is what the email states when I joined-

"The free club figures will arrive in late Spring 2011 which has yet to be determined and will ship to you automatically upon arrival. *Please keep your mailing information updated with our office, so when the items arrive they will ship to the correct address. *Last years figures*were 2010 3 3/4-Big Lob /12"-Urban Adventurer,*2009 3 3/4Destro Frogman Undertow /12" Black Talking Commander and these items can still be purchased through the club store. Please let me know if you have any questions."

It's total bs I don't have one now. I wonder how many others paid around the time I did and didn't receive one?

[Starfighter]

I wish that the SDCC exclusives were still available but they aren't. I guess that is why there is such a problem with Club exclusives. Most associate them with the same idealology of the SDCC stuff. The truth is, the Club exclusives are way easier to get than any other Joe Exclusive out there. You just have to join to get a set in their time-frame for the cheaper price. The hard ones to get are the attendee stuff in which can be compared to the SDCC stuff in their ideals. There will always be complaining by those that miss out. But the complaints that should be heard are the ones from the members. They are the driving force of the club. Perhaps, the Club should poll it's memberbase and whatever is decided should stand. That is a big incentive there for being a member. The non-members should really have no say. But is the Club really a club or a just a business that dictates everything from the design, costa & productio?. It seems as it is just a place to get an exclusive figure once a year. There really is no "club" about it in reality. There really is no say nor activity on their forums. It is a very quiet message board and that does not see a lot of traffic. It is a one man show (I know a few people are involved) but the members do not have a say in anything at all. I am in no way bashing it, but wish that there was more involvement. It is more-so a business than a club. That is not good, IMO.

[Jeffrozup]

I just emailed them about the status of my figure. I joined on April 4th. Here is what the email states when I joined-

"The free club figures will arrive in late Spring 2011 which has yet to be determined and will ship to you automatically upon arrival. *Please keep your mailing information updated with our office, so when the items arrive they will ship to the correct address. *Last years figures*were 2010 3 3/4-Big Lob /12"-Urban Adventurer,*2009 3 3/4Destro Frogman Undertow /12" Black Talking Commander and these items can still be purchased through the club store. Please let me know if you have any questions."

It's total bs I don't have one now. I wonder how many others paid around the time I did and didn't receive one?

What are you talking about you don't have one now? Nobody has gotten the Dial-Tone figure yet. They never ship them out before JoeCon and it says "late spring" we haven't even officially reached spring yet.

Did everyone who joined by the deadline get a figure? I'm confused as to how the club failed to meet demand.

Yes, if you signed up by the end of the day on March 16th, you will receive either the 3 3/4" or 12" figure (depending on which you chose). This has been confirmed several times by the right people on here.

[KushViper]

I wish that the SDCC excluvis were still available but they aren't. I guess that is why there is such a problem with Club exclusives. Most associate the with the same ideals of the SDCC stuff. The truth is, the Club exclusives are way easier to get than any other Joe Exclusive out there. You just have to join in gee set time-frame.

Hell, I wish thy made all of the original 82-94 figures and vehicles "so all the fans can get them". That's just it how it works tho. Something snooze something lose something.

[sjames90]

Ya think since I've been a club for years they'd give me a million dollars? I sure wish they would. I was signed up in time. What do ya think?

[wormser]

How about that Zandar,since were getting Zarana at SDCC

are they gonna release zarana in stores or a con exclusive?

[Magick]

Ya think since I've been a club for years they'd give me a million dollars? I sure wish they would. I was signed up in time. What do ya think?

You would think that since i live 5 minutes from them, that i would be able to just walk over there and pick mine up instead of waiting 6-8 weeks for it's delivery. LOL

[Magick]

are they gonna release zarana in stores or a con exclusive?

Right now.. she and the variant are only offered as SDCC Exclusives.

[draconianguard]

STOP freaking out! No one got their figure yet. The club states in their brochure/agreement that it will be mailed out after the deadline and will take 6 to 8 weeks to receive it. Usually, it is here around April 15-21.

I'm not freaking out, just confused. People on this thread claim to have one and the club says they are sold out. How does that sound to you?

[Magick]

Sounds like someone is pulling peoples legs to try and brag.. or they bought one of the ungodly expensive ones off ebay... LOL

[Jeffrozup]

I'm not freaking out, just confused. People on this thread claim to have one and the club says they are sold out. How does that sound to you?

To my knowledge, nobody has one in hand yet ... even the carded ones haven't been sold yet since JoeCon hasn't happened.

You might be reading too much into people saying "I got mine" on this thread when they are really meaning that they signed up for the GIJCC to guarantee themselves the figure.

I don't believe anybody has one in their possession yet.

[Magick]

The club figures always show up in the april/may time frame. With Con a week away.. they have all their concentration on it atm.. I'm sure there will be some carded versions there for people to buy none the less of them saying they are sold out. it will be the "We found another case miraculously".. followed by.. "look another case" .. LOL

If not no big deal.. just means if you want a carded version.. you will have to pay more. I will be happy with my bagged one.

[wormser]

Right now.. she and the variant are only offered as SDCC Exclusives.
that sucks. i can see a club having exclusives, but i hate cons having exclusives. i cant go to san diego

[Jeffrozup]

that sucks. i can see a club having exclusives, but i hate cons having exclusives. i cant go to san diego

You might be able to get the SDCC Exclusives through the GIJCC. They offered the Sgt. Slaughter figures last year.

[wormser]

i just dont like having such a popular and in demand figure being so limited. i am collecting all the 25th figures. but now i gotta dish out ig bucks for these stupid con exclusives. its just a hobby for me and something i just wanted to have around but i cant justify spending 50 or more dollars on each con or club member. my mustang needs tires damn it! lol

[mr pawn]

I CAN'T JUSTIFY SPEADING 500.00 ON A VINTAGE FIGURE, BUT I DO, BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY WAY I WILL GET ONE, IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE, WHICH I'M SURE IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE CLUB IN TIME YOU WILL BE GETTING ONE, THEN BUY ONE OFF EBAY, THE BAGGED FIGURE IS NOT GONNA BE SELLING FOR ALL THAT MUCH, IT REALLY ISN'T, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP SAYING IT ISN'T FAIR BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY $42.00 OVER MONTHS TIME TO SAVE THAT MUCH JUST SOUNDS BEYOND CRAZY, I SHIT YOU NOT, I COULD LEAVE MY HOUSE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND FRIIGIN WALK DOWN ROADS AND FIND ENUFF ALUMIMNUM CANS TO GET $42.00, YOU COULD GO TO THE PLASMA CENTER And GET $42.00 IN 2 HOURS, YOU CAN GO TO THE BLOOD BANK AND GET ALOT MORE THAN THAT, THERE ARE LOADS OF THINGS I CAN THINK OF TO MAKE $42.00 IN A DAY DOING LITTLE OF NOTHING, I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT IF YOU REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO SAVE $42.00 OVER TIME, YOU HAVE IN NO REASON AT ALL TO BE BUYING NEW FIGURES FROM WALMART OR ANY OTHER STORE, YOU NEED TO SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR A RAINY DAY, SORRY, BUT COME ON ALREADY

[mr pawn]

Knowing brain savage, he will make more of the bagged ones and push forward the deadline in order to see how many more to make, it can;t be that hard to do, they already have the friggin molds, its gonna be alright, its ok, do like the wombats do, take it easy

[mr pawn]

Have you ever heard a wombat whine about a bagged figure, its not a pretty thing to hear i assure you

[wormser]

I CAN'T JUSTIFY SPEADING 500.00 ON A VINTAGE FIGURE, BUT I DO, BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY WAY I WILL GET ONE, IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE, WHICH I'M SURE IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR THE CLUB IN TIME YOU WILL BE GETTING ONE, THEN BUY ONE OFF EBAY, THE BAGGED FIGURE IS NOT GONNA BE SELLING FOR ALL THAT MUCH, IT REALLY ISN'T, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP SAYING IT ISN'T FAIR BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO PAY $42.00 OVER MONTHS TIME TO SAVE THAT MUCH JUST SOUNDS BEYOND CRAZY, I SHIT YOU NOT, I COULD LEAVE MY HOUSE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND FRIIGIN WALK DOWN ROADS AND FIND ENUFF ALUMIMNUM CANS TO GET $42.00, YOU COULD GO TO THE PLASMA CENTER And GET $42.00 IN 2 HOURS, YOU CAN GO TO THE BLOOD BANK AND GET ALOT MORE THAN THAT, THERE ARE LOADS OF THINGS I CAN THINK OF TO MAKE $42.00 IN A DAY DOING LITTLE OF NOTHING, I AM SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT IF YOU REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO SAVE $42.00 OVER TIME, YOU HAVE IN NO REASON AT ALL TO BE BUYING NEW FIGURES FROM WALMART OR ANY OTHER STORE, YOU NEED TO SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR A RAINY DAY, SORRY, BUT COME ON ALREADY

im saying 42 on just 1 figure. but theres like 3 or 4 at that price now. it adds up. simple math would tell you that

[PhilDpino]

Knowing brain savage, he will make more of the bagged ones and push forward the deadline in order to see how many more to make, it can;t be that hard to do, they already have the friggin molds, its gonna be alright, its ok, do like the wombats do, take it easy

If more were made now, they would most likely be on sale at the club store not as an extension of the membership drive deadline. It will be offered at $20 for all existing/current members as of 3/16. Everyone else will have to pay the $42 dollars for a 2012 membership cycle (which includes 2012's figure) the. Pay the $20 for this years figure. So either way it is still a club exclusive because you have to be a member to buy it from the club.

When you become a member you are paying for membership and a free figure and the ability to buy additional and/or previous figures at a $20 price point these figures are not offered in stores for Joe shmoe to buy for his 4 yr old.

If someone misses the deadline and let's say he didn't really want next yrs membership or figure but just this year, he is in essence paying for it at a marked up price. Because now he HAS to buy next years membership to buy the figure which would have only cause him $42 had he met deadline. Now he's paying 22 for membership 20 for next years figure and 20 for the one he missed. If he met deadline he would have only pay 20 for the figure and 22 for a membership and not renewed another year.

[thairestauranteur]

Only those who got a figure would want the Club not to make anymore.

Have you seen the prices for the Pimp Daddy Destro , Sgt Slaughter or Roddy Piper?

I cannot hardly wait for the secondary market prices for the new Zarana exclusives.

For people like me landlocked in Kansas, there is no way to ever get these figures unless it is on eBay and we always get blown out of the water on eBay. Never seen a good deal on there.

I for one and hoping they do make more of this figure.

Hasbro tried their best to kill off Dial Tone by making a female character with the same name. It backfired. Fans want the original Dial Tone and the Club is the only way to get him in his original colors and in the Python Patrol color scheme.

The Club has a responsibility to the fan base I am not sorry to say. Sure "you must be a member" but when you are making G.I.Joe figures, there are hundreds of thousands of fans out there.

600 carded figures does not cut it buddy.

Club please make more. That way people like me will have a chance at getting one.

[Turtle Master]

I'm sure there will be many reasonably priced Dial-Tone figures at www.mcax.com shortly after Joecon.

[Lody]

Now this is front page news? This is garbage. So much for an exclusive being exclusive.

[MAJOR BLOOD]

Now this is front page news? This is garbage. So much for an exclusive being exclusive.

I'm surprised it took this long honestly. It really shouldn't be unless it's straight from the horses mouth but, meh.

Maybe we can get this one fronted next:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-joe-toys-modern-general-discussion/33331-new-info-flak-stinger-possibly-uss-flagg.html

[timshinn73]

I'd love to have the carded version.

[Magick]

As long as there are exclusives there will be a person that complains about it being an exclusive. LOL

[80sKid]

What??? I thought he was just coming in a bag... If I had known he was gonna be shipped MOC and would have gotten him... This is news to me... Guess I missed out... DOH!!!

[Bombardier]

What??? I thought he was just coming in a bag... If I had known he was gonna be shipped MOC and would have gotten him... This is news to me... Guess I missed out... DOH!!!

it is coming bagged

[MAJOR BLOOD]

What??? I thought he was just coming in a bag... If I had known he was gonna be shipped MOC and would have gotten him... This is news to me... Guess I missed out... DOH!!!

They are coming bagged. Carded ones will most likely be at the con.

[Magick]

The membership figure is coming in a bag.. they made a small amount to sell at Con and if any were left on the club site that were on Card.

[Nightrain]

Dial-Tone? Pass.

[mr pawn]

somewhere a wombat cries.why?

[Magick]

Cause Wombats wear their feelings on there shoulders? LOL

[PhilDpino]

There are 600 of the MOC JoeCon exclusives. And I believe closer to 1500 of the bagged membership exclusives. Not sure of the numbers but those were the numbers for past club exclusives. The whole point of the MOC was that they are even more rare than bagged.

[mr pawn]

the wombat wants every one to get along, he feels , there is no need to complain about this matter, it is what it is, love is all we need, love is all we need

[draconianguard]

"They have not shipped. Membership figures will go out soon. The limit on the ones that were for sale has nothing to do with your free membership figures which always ship in the late spring.
Thanks! Brian"

[gijoeben1]

um, if they make more, its still an exclusive. Not sure how them making more would make that not true. I'm also at a bit of a loss about them making more being a bad thing. A lot of folks put this figure down but it seems to have done quite well. I'm sure there are a good number of folks that wanted to get a 2nd one and aren't going to JoeCon and can't get one. The Club is trying to make those folks happy too. Seems more like a Club benefit than anything else.

[~Synder Corps.~]

Yeah, that's great for 2nd runners...However, I paid my dues a few days in advance at the GIJCC, and there's issues. Despite them taking 42 bucks out of my account, I'm still only listed at Trooper status, and I'm having their company e-mailing me and asking me what the issue is.

Hello f'ers!!! You took my money, now I may not get the figure I overpaid for? What do you THINK the issue is?

Everyone sings praises over GIJCC...So far, I am not impressed.

[Scroll142]

"They have not shipped. Membership figures will go out soon. The limit on the ones that were for sale has nothing to do with your free membership figures which always ship in the late spring.
Thanks! Brian"

thank you.

[Lody]

Yeah, that's great for 2nd runners...However, I paid my dues a few days in advance at the GIJCC, and there's issues. Despite them taking 42 bucks out of my account, I'm still only listed at Trooper status, and I'm having their company e-mailing me and asking me what the issue is.

Hello f'ers!!! You took my money, now I may not get the figure I overpaid for? What do you THINK the issue is?

Everyone sings praises over GIJCC...So far, I am not impressed.

Just give them a call-they'll fix it.

[~Synder Corps.~]

I don't care if it's carded or not. It's gonna get opened regardless...MY issue is, I paid dues well before the "sold out" date, but now there having issues. Stating they can't find me.

That's not what my bank is saying.

Regardless, all I want is a 2nd tier character to sit in the background of my dios without worry of "paint rub". F' all, acording to my account, I already paid for it...if I don't get it, F-it, and I will F-them.

[Lody]

I don't care if it's carded or not. It's gonna get opened regardless...MY issue is, I paid dues well before the "sold out" date, but now there having issues. Stating they can't find me.

That's not what my bank is saying.

Regardless, all I want is a 2nd tier character to sit in the background of my dios without worry of "paint rub". F' all, acording to my account, I already paid for it...if I don't get it, F-it, and I will F-them.

Calm down there pook a loo.

Call them on Monday and give them a chance to fix it before getting your panties in a bind.

[~Synder Corps.~]

Just give them a call-they'll fix it.

I did. But I don't trust them as far as I can spit... And since I never learned how...

[croz24]

i gambled thinking there would be plenty left over at $20 a pop later on and lost on that gamble. got my one figure, hope to get a carded figure, but i definitely don't think they should have a 2nd run.

[CVdelgado]

free dial-tones for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mr pawn]

thats right>>>><<<<<make them free, with parachutes.

[mr pawn]

we all better be careful, someone might get wind of how hot these will be and steal the load, then none of us will get one.

[mr pawn]

they'll have a huge army biulder set of clone trooper dialtones, no one else will have that.

[Hicks_Royel]

we all better be careful, someone might get wind of how hot these will be and steal the load, then none of us will get one.
Didn't this happen to Hotwheels Collectors way back? Now Mattel keeps tabs on any of the stolen exclusives that show up on the open market and send in the FBI, CIA, ATF, FFA, FCA and FHA whenever they get a lead?

[mr pawn]

did it really happen before to hotwheels, that crazy man, did they catch to guy

[mr pawn]

they better put them things under guard, theres gonna be a riot.

[Lody]

Didn't this happen to Hotwheels Collectors way back? Now Mattel keeps tabs on any of the stolen exclusives that show up on the open market and send in the FBI, CIA, ATF, FFA, FCA and FHA whenever they get a lead?

You forgot DOT, IATA, EPA, OSHA, DHS, FAA, 4H, FDA, C3P0 and R2D2

[volleydan]

No WKRP?

[Lody]

did it really happen before to hotwheels, that crazy man, did they catch to guy

Have you seen those Hot Wheels guys?

http://www.uglypeople.se/photos/wMarkImg/8.jpg

[mr pawn]

ya, no shit,as pist off as all the posters on here have been i think they might betterput them all under lock n key with a friggin guard, people want dialtone, hes like the air, the wind, they need him, but you have to be a elitist like us to understand, us """ joe elitist"" as they say

[mr pawn]

good lord, i never seen no hotwheel boy like that before, he is fuguly

[Hicks_Royel]

KSCPA?

Yeah, best I recall, one of the Las Vegas conventions had their whole lot stolen one year before any of them could be handed out. But I got the story one night at work at a very loud and busy moment so my facts may not be well, facts.

[46 Zone]

I don't care if it's carded or not. It's gonna get opened regardless...MY issue is, I paid dues well before the "sold out" date, but now there having issues. Stating they can't find me.

That's not what my bank is saying.

Regardless, all I want is a 2nd tier character to sit in the background of my dios without worry of "paint rub". F' all, acording to my account, I already paid for it...if I don't get it, F-it, and I will F-them.

Happened to me, but I didn't really notice until 4 months into my membership. I emailed them, and they emailed me the next day, and fixed the problem, and sent me the missed "newsletters." They also assured me that I would get the Dial-tone figure. Just chill out, and let them know. You should still get the figure. Remember, they will probably have extra for Joecon, so they can just give you one of those.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Insidious .... is.... (wait for it.) Insidious.

[speedocub]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

[thairestauranteur]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

The club is embedded deep with Hasbro. I figure Hasbro goes hand in hand with them so they can release something in tandem with the Joe Con which Hasbro puts on. It is all PR. All by design.

I read somewhere that the club has to get the OK from Hasbro to do whatever it is they want to do each year. Sort of limits their creativity if you have to get the OK from Hasbro because it is Hasbro who manufactures the figures.

I am still holding out for a Pythona.

[Hicks_Royel]

Yeah, these are far from "Knock off" or "bootleg" figures.

[Starfighter]

Yeah, these are far from "Knock off" or "bootleg" figures.

Exactly. There is way too much disconnect with the club and people say those things to justify their decisions in not getting the club stuff. It is all made by Hasbro (factories) but produced by Fun Publications. Hasbro has the most say in the matter of what gets made. Per Hasbro, this is the "official" G.I. Joe Club. That is why the club is getting this stuff. It is definitly Not rapainted stuff by hand. It is as real and store shelf quality. Even the 4-inch Adventure Team stuff is "official" G.I. Joe. Look at their file cards.

[Fast_Draw]

I guess all the Joe and TF stuff are KOs because the packaging has the GIJCC/TFCC logos on them, too.

[Jeffrozup]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

Haha, seriously?! A bootleg or knockoff. Look at the lower left hand corner ... I see a Hasbro logo there.

http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/4/2/0/1/1/25th-Anniversary-Dial-Tone-Carded_1300554687.jpg

[03Mach1]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

An ounce of research is worth a pound of truth.

[DPrime]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

Dude!

How can you have joined in '08 and have over 9,000 posts to your name and think this! For shame! ;)

[DPrime]

um, if they make more, its still an exclusive. Not sure how them making more would make that not true. I'm also at a bit of a loss about them making more being a bad thing.

Exactly.

Now, normally I'm all about not reissuing rare/exclusive items - but this hasn't even come out yet. The Club has every right to increase the amount available, ESPECIALLY since the whole point of this figure is to increase Club membership.

After next year? Yeah, no more Dial Tones. Time to move on to another figure. But for this year, why not? More people joining the Club can only lead to good things for the GI Joe collecting community - more money put into exclusives, for one, i.e. putting money into new molds.

[Lody]

If these were made by hasbro and distributed by Hasbro I'd be all over it...it's boot leg? Really?

The club is embedded deep with Hasbro. I figure Hasbro goes hand in hand with them so they can release something in tandem with the Joe Con which Hasbro puts on. It is all PR. All by design.

I read somewhere that the club has to get the OK from Hasbro to do whatever it is they want to do each year. Sort of limits their creativity if you have to get the OK from Hasbro because it is Hasbro who manufactures the figures.

I am still holding out for a Pythona.

Yeah, these are far from "Knock off" or "bootleg" figures.

Exactly. There is way too much disconnect with the club and people say those things to justify their decisions in not getting the club stuff. It is all made by Hasbro (factories) but produced by Fun Publications. Hasbro has the most say in the matter of what gets made. Per Hasbro, this is the "official" G.I. Joe Club. That is why the club is getting this stuff. It is definitly Not rapainted stuff by hand. It is as real and store shelf quality. Even the 4-inch Adventure Team stuff is "official" G.I. Joe. Look at their file cards.

I guess all the Joe and TF stuff are KOs because the packaging has the GIJCC/TFCC logos on them, too.

Haha, seriously?! A bootleg or knockoff. Look at the lower left hand corner ... I see a Hasbro logo there.

http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/attach/4/2/0/1/1/25th-Anniversary-Dial-Tone-Carded_1300554687.jpg

An ounce of research is worth a pound of truth.

Dude!

How can you have joined in '08 and have over 9,000 posts to your name and think this! For shame! ;)

The club is sooo ingrained within Hasbro that they know the secret location of where all their stuff in archived in a mill somewhere in Pawtucket. Stuff we never dreamed existed. And they travel there once a year to check it out and develop ideas for the stuff that we always wanted but it never came to fruition for one reason or the other.

Knock-off? Really? From an IG-you have along way to go in your knowledge of GI Joe and the deep seated relationship that they have with the club. I am offended that you make this statement. You're Hiss Tank card should be revoked.

[kingofpain26]

oh good grief....

ok for the cheap seats:

HASBRO is the parent company, Hasbro OWNS G.I.Joe and Transformers.

Mastercollector RUNS THE COLLECTOR'S CLUB

Mastercollector is the parent company that runs the G.I.Joe and Transformers clubs, Fun Publications Puts out the Newsletters. Both are Run By Brian, whereas David lane is the editor on the Newsletter (and produced some of the comics)

Mastercollector runs autonomously from Hasbro, but like Joecanuk, and other Joe clubs, any "official" figures they put out have to be approved by Hasbro.

However UNLIKE Joecanuk, Mastercollector has access to and used the same resources as Hasbro, though they pay for it THEMSELVES (no Hasbro funding) whereas Joecanuk usually Self Produces figures. (sometimes BY HAND!)

ALL the Collector's club figures were designed or re-designed by Lanny (especially the recent ones) who also designs the basic artwork for the packaging (before it goes out to a commissioned artist).
In some cases Lanny has completely designed these figures from the ground up, (including color schemes) or or orchestrated the parts swapping. he also did all the photoshop mock ups. He also has to CHECK with Hasbro to see if the molds for whatever figure he created still exists, or are available for use (Hasbro sometimes says no, as the molds are currently in use. Probably the reason why No ROC or POC parts have popped up yet, and why no 25th parts were used until AFTER the line stopped)

any figure or item produced with the G.I.Joe or Transformer name on it will have a Hasbro license trademark on it, because it is LICENCED and approved by Hasbro , and it will ALSO have the Fun Publications or Mastercolletor logo on the packaging as well.

so they are OFFICIAL FIGURES.

Brian and the many other Mastercollector employees are the ones who set up the cons, and run them. there isn't hundreds of employees doing this like a big conglomerate, there's less than 20 of them that do all this work. (and a lot of them are volunteers)

...so when you see Lanny Brian, Becky, Angie, David or any of the other employees at the Joecons or Botcons, Thank them. Not just for all the work they do.. but after ALL THEY do, THEY STILL HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS PETTY WHINING.

[Lody]

The club is embedded deep with Hasbro. I figure Hasbro goes hand in hand with them so they can release something in tandem with the Joe Con which Hasbro puts on. It is all PR. All by design.

I read somewhere that the club has to get the OK from Hasbro to do whatever it is they want to do each year. Sort of limits their creativity if you have to get the OK from Hasbro because it is Hasbro who manufactures the figures.

I am still holding out for a Pythona.

You can "read" that right here as I have had convos with Brian, Lenny and the rest of these guys about their relationship with Hasbro. It is a very delicate balance of what they (the club) want, what Hasbro wants and what the fans want. It is a thankless job that can only be done by the msot hardcore and devoted of GI Joe fans from all across the boards. Hasbro can turn around tomorrow and pout the kabosh on EVERYTHING and the club would have zero recourse and all those people would be out of a job and we would never seen any of the very cool stuff that we see from them.

[ChaplainAsst]

So, I have a question for those that keep saying, "No, they shouldn't make more." Do you believe they should sell Big Lob, Convention exclusives, and other GIJCC exclusives that they have left over in their stores? What if this year they short ordered not expecting the interest or because they had so many left over from the year before? I can go on right now and pick up a Jungle Viper or Heavy Water figure that was a past exclusive. Why is there no anger towards this? Is it just because they are O-ring figures that you didn't care about - but now that there is a figure you want, they shouldn't sell them after the deadline in their store? I just don't see the difference - or why no one was upset when they sold extra figures 3 weeks ago for $20, nor were they upset if they sold the extras after. Why does it make a difference that they are making more, except that it just means the market has more dialtones in it so they are worth less? I hear your arguments about people selling for a small profit or trading to non members but that was the case 3 weeks ago - and there was no anger. Where is the anger for people buying extra sets for friends at the Con, or the person who is a Joe club member that is selling their exclusive figure?

In the end, let these guys make a profit. It will be better for all of us in the long run.

[Lody]

So, I have a question for those that keep saying, "No, they shouldn't make more." Do you believe they should sell Big Lob, Convention exclusives, and other GIJCC exclusives that they have left over in their stores? What if this year they short ordered not expecting the interest or because they had so many left over from the year before? I can go on right now and pick up a Jungle Viper or Heavy Water figure that was a past exclusive. Why is there no anger towards this? Is it just because they are O-ring figures that you didn't care about - but now that there is a figure you want, they shouldn't sell them after the deadline in their store? I just don't see the difference - or why no one was upset when they sold extra figures 3 weeks ago for $20, nor were they upset if they sold the extras after. Why does it make a difference that they are making more, except that it just means the market has more dialtones in it so they are worth less? I hear your arguments about people selling for a small profit or trading to non members but that was the case 3 weeks ago - and there was no anger. Where is the anger for people buying extra sets for friends at the Con, or the person who is a Joe club member that is selling their exclusive figure?

In the end, let these guys make a profit. It will be better for all of us in the long run.

Whatever is left should be sold.

BUT

Additional runs should not be made purely for the exclusive nature of it.

This is not the first time they have done this either. Look at Punch/Counterpunch and the Shattered Glass orange Cyclonus. Both required addtional runs and both are still very difficult to come by. But keep in mind the size of the TF fanbase vs. GI Joe.

[kingofpain26]

ANOTHER THING PEOPLE DONT REALIZE?

price

Hasbro orders a Chinese factory to make 30,000 25th figures lets say for 15,000 dollars.

Mastercollectro uses the same Chinese factory to make 700 dial tone figures using the same 25th molds.

IT STILL COSTS 15,000 !!!!!

THE CHINESE MOLD COMPLAIES CHARGE THE SAME AMOUNT FOR RUNS, mainly because they hate small runs, so making the Dial tone figs cost about as much as it would to make the Neo Vipers. (which also explains why these figures are NOT the same price as retail figs)

so they wont make a new run unless they can sell them. they made extra runs of 1000 figures in the past, and as a result they're still stuck with 30th anniversary 12 inch figs.

so its isnt really just about exclusivity, but also sales. they not gonna make another run if only a handful of collectors are gonna buy them. If you can convince them that another 700 people will buy dial tones.. they may make them...



on the other hand... there was a big demand for Piper figures, and they DIDN'T make more. so don't hold your breath...

[mr pawn]

ditto

[Lody]

If this is the case-I want a Piper figure!

[mr pawn]

i see kop is vying for brains job, hes buttering him up learning all the ends and outs, kop for joeclub president

[mr pawn]

nononnon, i just bought a piper figure off ebay, the price will go down, i'll get screwed like i did with my beanie babies.

[Lody]

Man-just thinking about what happened to Beanie Babies makes me sick to my stomach

[mr pawn]

you know, it took me soome time to talk myself into buying a piper figure, i was going to buy one at a good price at last years con, but talked myself out of it, but i am happy i did decide to get one, not just because hes a really cool figure, but because he is so rare and hard to find.

[Lody]

How much did you get it for?

[Magick]

Man-just thinking about what happened to Beanie Babies makes me sick to my stomach

I have a crap ton of them, i bought to possibly sell later on to pay for my daughters college.. then the bottom dropped off and i have hundreds, including foreign bears that I can't sell off for anything.

So i am disgusted with the fact i have tubs and tubs of beanie babies that are completely worthless. I can't even think of how much I spent in getting them all, but the foreign bears are well over a couple of grand..

So if anyone knows a collector.. LOL

[mr pawn]

real collectors like having stuff like rare and hard to get items in their collection, the people out there that are just playing with toys wanting to see who has the biggest army and the most new figures, then get borded and sell them, then they want to buy them back again, they are in no way real gi joe collectors, will i feel good when i get my dialtone bagged and carded, hells ya, he goes under a differant section of my collection, in no way in this world would i even consider opening up a carded dialtone, but if they were to make more, and yes, everyone that wants him gets him, them really, hes just another new style figure, he loses his magic, you lose the feeling of getting a one of a kind item, new common toys made today will not be worth shit 30 years from now, theres to many made , so why not open all the new joe stuff and enjoy it all, but lets leave some of the rare cool hard to get stuff alone for real collectors.

[mr pawn]

i can't remember, i buy so much shit off ebay every weekHow much did you get it for?

[mr pawn]

i paid around $350.00

[mr pawn]

it was to much i know.

[mr pawn]

if they made 50 dialtones carded, and they told every one 2 weeks before hand they were going to be sold to the first 50 people that bought the con box sets, and would go on sell at 10:00pm, you bet your ass i will be there with my figure on refresh and my wife on the phone, i would kick ass to get that figure, if i missed out, well, then i guess i would buy him off ebay, to all the people out there wanting a bagged dialtone, reat assured, there will be planty for sell, half of the people getting them will be selling them on ebay.

[Mainframe]

it was to much i know.
It's only too much if you open it. Why don't you pop that bad boy open? Think how cool he would look in a Iron Grenadier dio, you'd have the envy of all tankers....

[wormser]

it sounds like the opinion is members want something exclusive. why not just do a variation on an existing figure then? that way they have something that is only available through the club that the general public cant get.

[Vanguard]

I for one would not mind them making more as long as their still club exclusives.I would buy another in a heartbeat to keep sealed along with the one I'm getting when I joined. I really want a carded one to go with my 25th carded collection but know there's no way I'll get one for a reasonable price.

[mr pawn]

That sounds fair when its all said like that, but that just isn't the way things work in this world, if they made more, and it was a differant color thats fine, but it isn't gonna happen, its alot of work time and money to reorder figures from china and have them shipped back here, its just not that simple.

[PhilDpino]

I for one would not mind them making more as long as their still club exclusives.I would buy another in a heartbeat to keep sealed along with the one I'm getting when I joined. I really want a carded one to go with my 25th carded collection but know there's no way I'll get one for a reasonable price.

^^^ This.

Also. I feel that having to hunt down a figure from a scalper on eBay, especially if I just want a second bagged figure to open and play with, cheapens the "exclusive" experience more than an extra run that is still exclusive because it can only be purchased from the club.

[PhilDpino]

Also. When the club decides to put out a figure, the have to get approval from Hasbro because Hasbro does not want the club interfering/competing with a planned release.

[PhilDpino]

Humble brag:

I love my Roddy Piper figures. I bought two at the Atlanta Con, one to open and as MOC. When I meet Piper there, he took both from my hands and signed them both. I was like "dammit Piper do I have to go Hulkamania on you? Now I can't open either of these!"

[Jeffrozup]

Humble brag:

I love my Roddy Piper figures. I bought two at the Atlanta Con, one to open and as MOC. When I meet Piper there, he took both from my hands and signed them both. I was like "dammit Piper do I have to go Hulkamania on you? Now I can't open either of these!"


Haha that is funny! So I am assuming you still have both MOC and signed?

Did you ever get a loose one?

[Lody]

^^^ This.

Also. I feel that having to hunt down a figure from a scalper on eBay, especially if I just want a second bagged figure to open and play with, cheapens the "exclusive" experience more than an extra run that is still exclusive because it can only be purchased from the club.

Ahhh-you newbies have much to learn

Not everyone selling one is a scalper.

To make an all inclusive statement such as that shows your level of ignorance.

[Hicks_Royel]

Edumacate them, Brother!
ANOTHER THING PEOPLE DONT REALIZE?

price

Hasbro orders a Chinese factory to make 30,000 25th figures lets say for 15,000 dollars.

Mastercollectro uses the same Chinese factory to make 700 dial tone figures using the same 25th molds.

IT STILL COSTS 15,000 !!!!!

THE CHINESE MOLD COMPLAIES CHARGE THE SAME AMOUNT FOR RUNS, mainly because they hate small runs, so making the Dial tone figs cost about as much as it would to make the Neo Vipers. (which also explains why these figures are NOT the same price as retail figs)

so they wont make a new run unless they can sell them. they made extra runs of 1000 figures in the past, and as a result they're still stuck with 30th anniversary 12 inch figs.

so its isnt really just about exclusivity, but also sales. they not gonna make another run if only a handful of collectors are gonna buy them. If you can convince them that another 700 people will buy dial tones.. they may make them...



on the other hand... there was a big demand for Piper figures, and they DIDN'T make more. so don't hold your breath...
So for everyone that waited and missed out: Quit yer bitchin'...

Suck it up and pay to play or move it on to the next pony show.

[Lody]

Suck it up buttercup!

[03Mach1]

I could see if this was an exclusive that went on sale at 10 am on a Wednesday when many of us might be at work. If so, I could undertand the request for a second run. But it has been known for MONTHS that Dial Tone was the membership exclusive. I'm sorry that some of you missed out but we had plenty of time to obtain one.

[Hicks_Royel]

it sounds like the opinion is members want something exclusive. why not just do a variation on an existing figure then? that way they have something that is only available through the club that the general public cant get.
Because Hasbro's not planning to make a Dial-Tone anytime soon and the club is doing you a favor to even be making one. You had a year to sign up for membership and eight plus months of knowing it was going to be Dial-Tone.

I don't know how hard it is for some folks to save up fifty bucks but you could've done ten bucks a month and have it in five. That gives you six and a half months to wait around till the very last moment and then, what, two or so weeks to wonder why you missed out?

The club would've made more if folks hadn't waited around till last week to sign up wanting one. I'm pretty sure if 10,000 people had signed up in December for memberships, their orders to China would've reflected as much and every member would've gotten one come March. Sheesh... people need to be responsible for themselves instead of expecting the Club to "make things right"...

[mr pawn]

So, whats the big deal than, just because he signed it shouldn't mean anything, you should still open it up and enjoy it, the only reason for you to not open it is because it has become to vaulable now, you like having a hard to get figure that is signed and is worth money, these are the things everyone keeps saying about the reason they don't want the dialtones to go into a second run, just because everyone wants one doesn't mean they should just make more of them, they didn't make more of the pipers, and lots of guys want more of those, these are the reason things are the way they are, theres a time frame, theres a limit, if you want it you fight your way up front and get one, you lag behind and you get eatin by the scalper wolves

[mr pawn]

I don't even care about the bagged dialtone, really, i care about the carded one, i will display them both in my collection, but the only real reason the big rush came in 2 weeks before the deadline was because of all the talk about they were going to be selling out, they are going to be worth so much money, then, bang, everyone wants one, its the "" theres a storm coming everyone better get to the store and buy up all the milk and eggs, then you wait and say, hell the storms not gonna be that big who cares, when it gets here and it is big then i will go out and get some supplies, but guess what, all the supplies are gone, your to late, gonna have to deal with it, sorry.lifes like a box of chocolate you never know what your gonna get

[Lody]

I don't even care about the bagged dialtone, really, i care about the carded one, i will display them both in my collection, but the only real reason the big rush came in 2 weeks before the deadline was because of all the talk about they were going to be selling out, they are going to be worth so much money, then, bang, everyone wants one, its the "" theres a storm coming everyone better get to the store and buy up all the milk and eggs, then you wait and say, hell the storms not gonna be that big who cares, when it gets here and it is big then i will go out and get some supplies, but guess what, all the supplies are gone, your to late, gonna have to deal with it, sorry.lifes like a box of chocolate you never know what your gonna get

Wow

You really went there with the Forest Gump quote

Kudos-you're more man than I ever will be

[Hicks_Royel]

Agreed, hype helped sell both these and the Convention Boxed sets. But that's what happens when a toy line becomes popular and more folks jump on board. Folks should get this worked up over Ben 10 and other crap I don't care about. Clean that shit off the shelves already.

[wormser]

Because Hasbro's not planning to make a Dial-Tone anytime soon and the club is doing you a favor to even be making one. You had a year to sign up for membership and eight plus months of knowing it was going to be Dial-Tone.

I don't know how hard it is for some folks to save up fifty bucks but you could've done ten bucks a month and have it in five. That gives you six and a half months to wait around till the very last moment and then, what, two or so weeks to wonder why you missed out?

The club would've made more if folks hadn't waited around till last week to sign up wanting one. I'm pretty sure if 10,000 people had signed up in December for memberships, their orders to China would've reflected as much and every member would've gotten one come March. Sheesh... people need to be responsible for themselves instead of expecting the Club to "make things right"...

i just found out about the dial tone like 3 days before he sold. i still wouldnt have paid the 42 bucks for one figure. im saying its kinda bullshit in more ways than one. i get that people shouldnt complain who say this missed it. im not mad about that at all. i just think it sucks to have popular figures as exclusives.

[Lody]

it just think it sucks to have popular figures as exclusives.

So the solution to make a less popular figures an exclusive?

If so, I say next year they do either Armadillo or Skidmark.....maybe Scalpel or Gyro Viper

Think about how asinine your statement is.

[03Mach1]

i just think it sucks to have popular figures as exclusives.

So the club should expect members to pay $40+ dollars for unpopular exclusives?? That hardly makes any sense.

[Hicks_Royel]

i just found out about the dial tone like 3 days before he sold. i still wouldnt have paid the 42 bucks for one figure. im saying its kinda bullshit in more ways than one. i get that people shouldnt complain who say this missed it. im not mad about that at all. i just think it sucks to have popular figures as exclusives.
Then you should've been paying attention. I can't help you with that.
Not like this site and, I'm guessing, all the others [Especially the Club] haven't posted information about the club from day one.

I hate to sound like a hard ass but it does pay to stay informed.

Edit: And I'm pretty sure that, as its been stated hype is the only thing that had made Dial-Tone this popular. But if you want to buy a nonpopular Club Figure:
http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=528
http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1004
http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1303
http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1582
http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1806

[mr pawn]

I think most of the last minute hype is really just friggin scalpers that do not even collect joe, they just buy it all up and resell it all, which, you can't do a thing about but get pissed, theres going to be alot of dealers in the orlando area after megacon, they'll be packed up and done by monday morning, i'm sure theres going to be alot of them there buying up all they can, when theres alot of money to be made from reselling, they will be there in line hours before it opens, i can tell you one thing, i do not sell toys on ebay, i will buy extra to maybe trade with other collectors, and if something sells out and theres a fellow tanker there i know that needs one of something i got extras of, i will give it to him at cost, like i said before, friends are more important to me, friends that have sense and understand how things works.

[PhilDpino]

Haha that is funny! So I am assuming you still have both MOC and signed?

Did you ever get a loose one?

No. I couldn't justify the cost. Besides I am very into the ME/25th sculpt and he just didn't fit it. One day I will probably do a custom.

[Lody]

I think most of the last minute hype is really just friggin scalpers that do not even collect joe, they just buy it all up and resell it all, which, you can't do a thing about but get pissed, theres going to be alot of dealers in the orlando area after megacon, they'll be packed up and done by monday morning, i'm sure theres going to be alot of them there buying up all they can, when theres alot of money to be made from reselling, they will be there in line hours before it opens, i can tell you one thing, i do not sell toys on ebay, i will buy extra to maybe trade with other collectors, and if something sells out and theres a fellow tanker there i know that needs one of something i got extras of, i will give it to him at cost, like i said before, friends are more important to me, friends that have sense and understand how things works.

You had me until you said Scalpers....


:(

[wormser]

Then you should've been paying attention. I can't help you with that.
Not like this site and, I'm guessing, all the others [Especially the Club] haven't posted information about the club from day one.

I hate to sound like a hard ass but it does pay to stay informed.

Edit: And I'm pretty sure that, as its been stated hype is the only thing that had made Dial-Tone this popular. But if you want to buy a nonpopular Club Figure:
G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=528)
G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1004)
G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1303)
G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1582)
G.I. Joe Collectors' Club Online Catalog (http://www.gijoeclub.com/shop/index.cfm?do=detail&productid=1806)

no, i understand. im not too bitter or nothing. im not a serious collector or nothing. i just buy the arah remakes cause i loved them so much as a kid. i loved dialtone when i was young and would like to have him but for a certain price i guess.

[mr pawn]

I love it all and i want it all,just like a star wars collector that i am, i have to have everything with the gijoe stamp on, i couldn't find the gi joe twinkiesaround here i wanted boxes of those things.

[Hicks_Royel]

Yep... we've all got figures that we'd like to have had for cheap. Me, I'd've liked to built up my Range Viper ranks without having to buy another Mindbender or Ross Exclusive off eBay. I agree it does carry a certain amount of sting to pay more then they're physically worth. But that's pretty much true of all toys.
The thing is, if you're not that serious about collecting and can just casually buy the figures you really want, spending a little more for Dial-Tone shouldn't be that big of issue, save up, buy it, be glad you don't have to buy every other Joe out there just say you have a complete collection. Yes, you're spending a lot of money on one figure but you're also not spending a lot of money on every figure that comes out...

Case in point, I like Transformers too. I don't buy every Generations or movie figure that comes out though. I save up my money and buy the Masterpiece figures that really appeal to me.

[PhilDpino]

Ahhh-you newbies have much to learn

Not everyone selling one is a scalper.

To make an all inclusive statement such as that shows your level of ignorance.

I think it's ignorant that you think I'm a newbie. I've been a club member since 06 and have my membership on auto renew on my credit card. And have been collecting since 87.

You are correct. Not everyone is a scalper. But, honestly, how do either of us know what people's true motivation on eBay other than profit. When people buy a figure from the club at $20 and sell for a mark-up, I consider that on some levels as scalping. It is rare to find someone who will do a Buy It Now at now higher than cost plus s&h.



So, whats the big deal than, just because he signed it shouldn't mean anything, you should still open it up and enjoy it, the only reason for you to not open it is because it has become to vaulable now, you like having a hard to get figure that is signed and is worth money, these are the things everyone keeps saying about the reason they don't want the dialtones to go into a second run, just because everyone wants one doesn't mean they should just make more of them, they didn't make more of the pipers, and lots of guys want more of those, these are the reason things are the way they are, theres a time frame, theres a limit, if you want it you fight your way up front and get one, you lag behind and you get eatin by the scalper wolves

At this point I don't open him because he doesn't fit into my 25th style collection. At one point I considered doing so but I really bought into the 25th era.

Honestly I don't think a second run will cause decreased value. (And when I say second run, I'm only refering to the bagged figures not the carded.) And if it does then it needed to happen. Kinda like the real estate and comic book bubbles. I'm kinda tried of Joe price being artificially inflated buy people buying out everyone else and selling at increased profits. This is probably why I have not sold my Roddy Piper, even though I probably could use the money. I like that I have 2 Piper and both signed by one of my favorite wrestlers. Maybe one day I will sell it (most likely to make room for more joes) and I hope I make a nice coin from it. But first I want to get it framed and protected to hang up on my wall.

[mr pawn]

Come what may, we are all gonna see the deal on all the exclusives in 10 more days, its the final countdown, i haven't even checked yet, is there any bagged dialtones on ebay yet?

[PhilDpino]

I pretty much buy every figure. I am willing to pay more for a MOC but for one I open and play with I'd like to get a lower cost. Will ended up shopping the evilBay, but hopefully I get a good deal. I'm okay if the club DOESN"T make more. Them's the way the shit rolls. But if the do, doesn't make me upset about the value of my investments. That's not why I collect. I am a completist and a MOCist because as a kid I couldn't afford all the joes I could get my hands on. Now that I am an adult, I have the buying power and I am buying my childhood back in a way. I tend to buy two of almost everything so I can play with some and display the rest like a museum.

I hope Cody Lane Foundation does get the museum going cause I plan to loan out my collection as an exhibit.

[mr pawn]

Next years carded exclusive should be of brain savage, the man behind the joe, liminted to 100, we'll see how fast they sell out

[mr pawn]

A gi joe museum would be really cool., i would loan out some of my rare stuff for that

[gunslingercbr]

is this still going on? holy sh%t.

if they don't make anymore, tough shit to those who didn't get one, you had plenty of time to buy it -- you have nothing to whine about.

if they do make more, it doesn't affect a single person who already bought one or multiples, and the figure still remains a GIJCC exclusive, so nothing changes there, so you have nothing to whine about.

nobody has anything to whine about regardless of what occurs.

[gijoeben1]

I think the thing to remember here is that this is a promotional figure. It is a Club Exclusive yes, but the promotional nature of it is key here. Its not a Convention Exclusive. That said, non-Convention Club products, if sold out and there is a market for more, I think the Club should be able to produce more. Convention Exclusives I think should be left alone. The amount produced is the amount produced. Case closed. Other Club exclusives I'm less worried about. The other thing to remember here is that this figure goes out free as a bonus for being a Club member. The Club then has extras up for sale on the site for those that like one sealed and one to open, or need more than one to display in their collection. Seems to me they are just trying to make sure that there are enough to go around to satisfy Club Members, and that is fine with me. I'm not getting a Dial Tone, I'm getting the AT figure. So to me its not a big deal. When I see Dial Tone at the Con I may pick one up carded.

[PhilDpino]

is this still going on? holy sh%t.

if they don't make anymore, tough shit to those who didn't get one, you had plenty of time to buy it -- you have nothing to whine about.

if they do make more, it doesn't affect a single person who already bought one or multiples, and the figure still remains a GIJCC exclusive, so nothing changes there, so you have nothing to whine about.

nobody has anything to whine about regardless of what occurs.

^^^ This

[PhilDpino]

I think the thing to remember here is that this is a promotional figure. It is a Club Exclusive yes, but the promotional nature of it is key here. Its not a Convention Exclusive. That said, non-Convention Club products, if sold out and there is a market for more, I think the Club should be able to produce more. Convention Exclusives I think should be left alone. The amount produced is the amount produced. Case closed. Other Club exclusives I'm less worried about. The other thing to remember here is that this figure goes out free as a bonus for being a Club member. The Club then has extras up for sale on the site for those that like one sealed and one to open, or need more than one to display in their collection. Seems to me they are just trying to make sure that there are enough to go around to satisfy Club Members, and that is fine with me. I'm not getting a Dial Tone, I'm getting the AT figure. So to me its not a big deal. When I see Dial Tone at the Con I may pick one up carded.


^^^ This

[nickvree]

really doubt this will come to fruition...

[PhilDpino]

really doubt this will come to fruition...

agreed.

[Blaster'spunchingbagg]

Come what may, we are all gonna see the deal on all the exclusives in 10 more days, its the final countdown, i haven't even checked yet, is there any bagged dialtones on ebay yet?


No. And I'm startin to get mighty pissed off, I'm looking forward to my spring ass-raping. :) I reckon about 50 shipped for the DT?

[ShockVal]

I just went pee pee. I may need to poop too.

[mr pawn]

whats up joe hos, hows it hanging, huh

[KushViper]

i just went pee pee. I may need to poop too.

^^^this!

[DPrime]

Additional runs should not be made purely for the exclusive nature of it.

Well, like I said, normally I'd agree, but I think this is a different case than most exclusives.

An exclusive that's only available for one time, like a con exclusive, shouldn't get second runs. But all this is is a means for people to join the club. If MC figures they can get more people to join by making more figures, then by all means they should do another run.

However, it's really up to them. Maybe missing out on this figure at the Con price will convince people to join up for next year's figure. Either way they decide to go about it, doesn't matter to me.

[lister]

nobody has anything to whine about regardless of what occurs.

Nobody has anything to whine about? Well, what the hell do you expect everyone to use the Internet for?

[sharky]

Nobody has anything to whine about? Well, what the hell do you expect everyone to use the Internet for?
porn

[mr pawn]

i don't think theres much more to be said about dt, alls been said, alls been done, no more to whine about, nuff said

[gunslingercbr]

Nobody has anything to whine about? Well, what the hell do you expect everyone to use the Internet for?
porn

indeed, but then people would whine about that as well; "her boobies aren't big enough...she can only take 4 guys at once not five, she's terrible...wah, wah, wah!!!!"

[sharky]

indeed, but then people would whine about that as well; "her boobies aren't big enough...she can only take 4 guys at once not five, she's terrible...wah, wah, wah!!!!"
more like the constant bickering about how Japanese porn is censored. haha! Not that I would know anything about that. :D

[lister]

indeed, but then people would whine about that as well; "her boobies aren't big enough...she can only take 4 guys at once not five, she's terrible...wah, wah, wah!!!!"

Yes, people will always find something to whine about. I find that oddly comforting.

[Robowang]

An exclusive that's only available for one time, like a con exclusive, shouldn't get second runs. But all this is is a means for people to join the club. If MC figures they can get more people to join by making more figures, then by all means they should do another run.


If that figure were SUPPOSED to be available all year long, that would make perfect sense. However, it's not like they ran out before the cut-off date. Doesn't everyone who joined by the date get one for sure? It's not like people who join after won't get a figure; it'll just be next year's.

[mr pawn]

no shit, thats what everybody keeps trying to get accross, if you missed out on the dialtone, just buy it off the second market, it anit gonna cost all that much, scalpers gotta eat to, they got bills to pay, drugs to buy, buying off the secondary market just helps the economy, every body needs to do their part.

[Bombardier]

i don't think theres much more to be said about dt, alls been said, alls been done, no more to whine about, nuff said

yup, and 40% of all that's been said in this thread has come from you

[ChaplainAsst]

Whatever is left should be sold.

BUT

Additional runs should not be made purely for the exclusive nature of it.


Who complained when they sold extras of these figures every other year, including this year? When did the complaints begin - when they talked about making more. Now, I get if you drive or fly to JoeCon and manage to get a Carded dial-tone - 1 of 600 - and come home proudly holding your object of desire, and discover that the company has decided to produce another 600 due to demand. The difference is simple - it was told to you that it would be a limited edition.

Please show me in the materials from the GIJCC where it says these figures will be a limited edition. Explain where it says it will be limited to the numbers produced. These things are what members have read between the lines. What they promised is that it would be exclusive, and I believe them on that. People are upset from a perceived condition.

[MJjoe4life]

damn, this thread is still goin on. just glad i have been a member for years so i can get my free baggie dial tone. hope to get a carded one at the convention. no complainin here lmao!

[03Mach1]

Who complained when they sold extras of these figures every other year, including this year? When did the complaints begin - when they talked about making more. Now, I get if you drive or fly to JoeCon and manage to get a Carded dial-tone - 1 of 600 - and come home proudly holding your object of desire, and discover that the company has decided to produce another 600 due to demand. The difference is simple - it was told to you that it would be a limited edition.

Please show me in the materials from the GIJCC where it says these figures will be a limited edition. Explain where it says it will be limited to the numbers produced. These things are what members have read between the lines. What they promised is that it would be exclusive, and I believe them on that. People are upset from a perceived condition.

This is not necessarily true. The last two weeks or so before the registration deadline, the club kept updating us that the Dial Tone figure was almost 'sold out'. All bet ensuring some members renewed based on the club's information to avoid missing out on DT. Another run would undermine the FP's credability.

[Lody]

Who complained when they sold extras of these figures every other year, including this year? When did the complaints begin - when they talked about making more. Now, I get if you drive or fly to JoeCon and manage to get a Carded dial-tone - 1 of 600 - and come home proudly holding your object of desire, and discover that the company has decided to produce another 600 due to demand. The difference is simple - it was told to you that it would be a limited edition.

Please show me in the materials from the GIJCC where it says these figures will be a limited edition. Explain where it says it will be limited to the numbers produced. These things are what members have read between the lines. What they promised is that it would be exclusive, and I believe them on that. People are upset from a perceived condition.

I don't have a problem with them selling what they have. If they made 500 and only sold 300 and have 200 left and sell them at the Con or online store-they still only made 500. What I am not ok with is making another run on top of the 500 that sold out. It dimenishes the exclusiveness, importantance and value of that figure in ones collection.

[wormser]

damn, this thread is still goin on. just glad i have been a member for years so i can get my free baggie dial tone. hope to get a carded one at the convention. no complainin here lmao!

what else do you get out of the club that you find useful?

[ChaplainAsst]

I don't have a problem with them selling what they have. If they made 500 and only sold 300 and have 200 left and sell them at the Con or online store-they still only made 500. What I am not ok with is making another run on top of the 500 that sold out. It dimenishes the exclusiveness, importantance and value of that figure in ones collection.

But what if they made 1000? Or 10,000? None of us have a CLUE how many they made - except for 600 extras that were carded.

Let's look at the terms you used. Exclusive means simply that this is the only place you can get it. Importance is a judgement of the person. Value is the kicker. If it is a matter of money - which I think this is, honestly, for a lot of people - then it is more a matter of an investment, and this is a terrible investment. If it is an intrinsic value, that shouldn't change if 10,000 people have one and now you too.

Look, there are figures out there that there are no more than a handful in existence. And they don't go for $42, much less $20.

Personally, I believe this figure will be another TTT Slaughter or Kamakura or Variant Wraith, or Black headed Destro or whatever is the hard to find figure for the month that will go into someone's collection and be quickly forgotten as soon as the next figure comes alone. The joy is in getting one. And I believe this is what GIJCC is trying to do - make more people happy. And a profit :)

[ChaplainAsst]

This is not necessarily true. The last two weeks or so before the registration deadline, the club kept updating us that the Dial Tone figure was almost 'sold out'. All bet ensuring some members renewed based on the club's information to avoid missing out on DT. Another run would undermine the FP's credability.

I disagree. What they were saying was that they DID sell out of the extra $20 DTs. Then they also sold out of the JoeCon sets. But, I recall them saying very clearly that they would follow through on the membership sets for everyone - even asking people to check if they ordered the correct set on their account so no one would get a 12" figure by accident. Realistically, they would just have to send apologies to people buying extra figures to make up the difference.

What I heard was typical fan boys that THOUGHT they might sell out and made a run on membership and the $20 DTs - they were for sale for several days. What I have heard them say clearly was that they had enough and might have some more extras for sale after JoeCon. That wouldn't cause me to think that they were running out.

[DPrime]

If that figure were SUPPOSED to be available all year long, that would make perfect sense. However, it's not like they ran out before the cut-off date. Doesn't everyone who joined by the date get one for sure? It's not like people who join after won't get a figure; it'll just be next year's.

I suppose that's true...

I guess they've got a lot to live up to next year! At least they know the formula for success - RAH figure that wasn't made into a 25th style figure. So hopefully we can expect more of the same in the coming years.

[Xenos]

I bet you next year's club exclusive is Pythona. I'm thinking Baroness body with a new head and hands, and the cape from the SE/SS twopack.

Man, I can hear the bitching already.

[PhilDpino]

I bet you next year's club exclusive is Pythona. I'm thinking Baroness body with a new head and hands, and the cape from the SE/SS twopack.

Man, I can hear the bitching already.

My money on next year's figures will be:

SDCC = Zandar
Club Bagged = Proper Leatherneck or Lifeline
Convention Box set = Cobra La

[mr pawn]

hells ya, they need a cobra la figure set, they've done just about everything else, that would be bad ass.

[mr pawn]

if they would just listen to what every body is saying on here ande other sites, instead of just doing what ever the frag they want, it whould be nice, i mean, just how many people on here or the club wanted this box set and dialtone fig

[Jeffrozup]

I might be playing devils advocate here but why is nobody complaining about the convention exclusives selling out and wanting them to make more of those sets?

The GIJCC lists all of their exclusives as "limited quantities" in addition to being the only place you can get said figures. I think adding a second run would diminish the "limited" aspect but doesn't really affect the "exclusive" label.

All of this being said ... if they make more Dial-Tones, they should also consider making more Brazil Mission II sets, right?

[Xenos]

My money on next year's figures will be:

SDCC = Zandar
Club Bagged = Proper Leatherneck or Lifeline
Convention Box set = Cobra La

I think SDCC would be a bigger name then Zandar. I could see SDCC being Golobulous. He would need all new tooling, so I just don't see him being in a JoeCon set since their budget is a lot lower then Hasbro's is for SDCC, and SDCC seems to be the only time Hasbro is willing to make a mold that will only be used once, like Sarge, suited Destro, and Suited CC.

I could definitely see the club offering Lifeline or Zandar if neither of them are in the 30for30 line. I don't think they would do Leatherneck since he is in this year's con set. Pythona just makes the most sense to me though. Nobody but the hardcore GI Joe fans would want a Pythona, and with a new head you could kit bash her out of the existing female molds.

[Xenos]

I might be playing devils advocate here but why is nobody complaining about the convention exclusives selling out and wanting them to make more of those sets?

The GIJCC lists all of their exclusives as "limited quantities" in addition to being the only place you can get said figures. I think adding a second run would diminish the "limited" aspect but doesn't really affect the "exclusive" label.

All of this being said ... if they make more Dial-Tones, they should also consider making more Brazil Mission II sets, right?

Yeah, I don't understand this at all. If you want Claymore or a decent Leatherneck you have to pay $200-$300. I would have thought that would make a lot more people mad then $42 for Dial Tone.

[Jeffrozup]

I want a 25th/ME version of William "The Refrigerator" Perry from the GIJCC or SDCC next year!

[Xenos]

I want a 25th/ME version of William "The Refrigerator" Perry from the GIJCC or SDCC next year!

I would buy that in a heartbeat. And hey, the Fridge could use the cash I'm sure.

[Jeffrozup]

Yeah, I don't understand this at all. If you want Claymore or a decent Leatherneck you have to pay $200-$300. I would have thought that would make a lot more people mad then $42 for Dial Tone.

Exactly! I mean if you want both the Claymore and Leatherneck, you would have to spend $100-150 each to get them but nobody complains about that.

Instead its all about the "$42" for the Dial-Tone, which makes less sense since you get other club perks with it too.

[sjames90]

My money on next year's figures will be:

SDCC = Zandar
Club Bagged = Proper Leatherneck or Lifeline
Convention Box set = Cobra La

I wouldn't complain a lick on any of these. However I would go broke.

[WildWeaselZ06]

Please , no Cobra La. Sorry folks but in my opinion that was the beginning of the end for the joes of my youth.

[wormser]

I would buy that in a heartbeat. And hey, the Fridge could use the cash I'm sure.

he was just on his death bed last month. i haven't heard any reports on how he is doing since though. as a chicago man, i would LOVE a fridge figure!

[kingofpain26]

Please , no Cobra La. Sorry folks but in my opinion that was the beginning of the end for the joes of my youth.

I did a poll last year on several boards, and a Cobr la based set actually scored pretty high, with a lot of interest.

... especially if Golobulous looked like this:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/44632_470122478688_616823688_6543170_6590988_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/44632_470122493688_616823688_6543173_6209366_n.jpg

(customs made by Woodhouse, the designer of the 2th figs)

[KushViper]

Yeah, Cobra-La is corny as an Iowan turd but I would love to have a set next year anyway. In the set there could be several Royal Guards, Golobulas, Pythona, Serpentor, "Once a Man" Cobra Commander, Cobra-La citizens, Big lob, Chuckles, Law/Order, Jinx, Mercer, Taurus, Red Dog, etc... I would be so into that!

[Bombardier]

could you imagine a Golobulus statue done in McFarlane style? I'd be all over that!

[Xenos]

he was just on his death bed last month. i haven't heard any reports on how he is doing since though. as a chicago man, i would LOVE a fridge figure!

Yeah. Apparently he's an alcoholic, and his health is really failing him because of it. It's too bad, he was one of my favorites when I was a kid growing up in Chicago.

[wormser]

he was more than a football player, he was an image. he was a personality and a character. i always wanted his figure when i was a kid. i used to have his jersey

[PhilDpino]

Yeah, I don't understand this at all. If you want Claymore or a decent Leatherneck you have to pay $200-$300. I would have thought that would make a lot more people mad then $42 for Dial Tone.


I think some people attach more exclusivity to the bagged figures than others. While everyone else seems to be on the same page when it comes to the Con sets. You don't have to be a member of the club to get the Con sets, but you do have to pay a heftier because it is for a one time occurrence. JoeCon 2011 only happens once. And I think most people respect that.

In regards to the club figure, left overs are for sold on the store until supplies run out or if the club makes more. Which I think has happened before without complaints from anyone. Any purchases after the deadline means you are buying next years troop level membership for (guaranteed a different figure) plus a back stocked item. So you still have to be a club member to purchase additional figures. Hence, the figure is still exclusive. "While supplies last," is a relative term based on how the club maintains supply levels. (I do think that there should be a moratorium on how long club should have to announce an additional run after which, you know, tough shit for everyone.)

If you join the club by a certain time you a guaranteed a certain figure for free. And I think that where the split in opinion occurs.

In other words, exclusive to club members, if you join by a certain time it's FREE, if not you have to pay. But you have to join either way because it's only for club members. so join by a certain time so you can get one free. And if you want additional figures on top of that you pay for it.

Or If you join by a certain time: the first one's free and you pay if you want more. (Damn plastic crack dealers.)

Most people interested in a second run, imo, aren't people who missed the deadline but members who followed the rules but just want a second figure. Yes we had all year to join the club, which we did, but pre-orders for additional figures only lasted a week before the club had to stop because they were going so fast. Because people were buying 6 at a time. Leaving less in the pool for up to date members who just wanted one additional figure for themselves.

[mr pawn]

that sounds fair enuf, we just need 1000 more being made, i just don't see the need for it, they have to order a certain amount, if they over order, then they'll be stuck with alot, and once the big deal of it dies down, they will not sell, they'll be setting in the store.

[Saboteur]

2012 SDCC exclusive: Cover Girl
2012 GIJCC exclusive: Zandar

[darthdrew13]

I seriously doubt DT would sit in the club store if they had a second run done (bagged version). But, that again is my opinion.

I say this because DT is VERY popular right now and I'm sure all 600 MOCs will sell out at the Con, because whatever is not picked up by attendees, dealers will snag up big time. DT is a 25th fig who was done very well. A bunch of us have been clamoring for more 25th versions of classic characters and since DT is exactly that, I'm sure that interest will stay strong. Remember, in 6 or 8 months from now, people like me may be able to afford him and then we'll join the club (and get next year's figure for free with the membership) and buy him out of the store for $20.

I am TOTALLY interested in this figure, but since I can't afford him (bagged one), I'll either wait until I can (if he's available), OR wait until everyone has theirs in hand and see if someone is willing to trade an extra one.

[WildWeaselZ06]

Cover girls is happening this year. That's who the Sparta figure is.

[Starfighter]

I wish that the SDCC exclusives were still available but they aren't. I guess that is why there is such a problem with Club exclusives. Most associate them with the same idealology of the SDCC stuff. The truth is, the Club exclusives are way easier to get than any other Joe Exclusive out there. You just have to join to get a set in their time-frame for the cheaper price. The hard ones to get are the attendee stuff in which can be compared to the SDCC stuff in their ideals. There will always be complaining by those that miss out. But the complaints that should be heard are the ones from the members. They are the driving force of the club. Perhaps, the Club should poll it's memberbase and whatever is decided should stand. That is a big incentive there for being a member. The non-members should really have no say. But is the Club really a club or a just a business that dictates everything from the design, costa & productio?. It seems as it is just a place to get an exclusive figure once a year. There really is no "club" about it in reality. There really is no say nor activity on their forums. It is a very quiet message board and that does not see a lot of traffic. It is a one man show (I know a few people are involved) but the members do not have a say in anything at all. I am in no way bashing it, but wish that there was more involvement. It is more-so a business than a club. That is not good, IMO.

[gunslingercbr]

I seriously doubt DT would sit in the club store if they had a second run done (bagged version). But, that again is my opinion.


of course it wouldn't now that the hyteria of "can't get it" has been created. they would sell out the same way shit that nobody would have bought at Target flies off the shelf at Ross and grabs high prices on ebay.

[ChaplainAsst]

Cover girls is happening this year. That's who the Sparta figure is.

I would imagine it is possible that CG MIGHT be in the 30 for 30 mix only because they called her Sparta in this set and it was a simple repaint, not a new torso or jacket that reflects the original.

[Saboteur]

Cover girls is happening this year. That's who the Sparta figure is.

Was actually talking about an ARAH accurate Cover Girl. We've got a Sparta and a Blonde Karolina Kurkova figure in grey camo. But no decent representation of the 80's version of the character. That's what people are wanting.

[Bombardier]

Was actually talking about an ARAH accurate Cover Girl. We've got a Sparta and a Blonde Karolina Kurkova figure in grey camo. But no decent representation of the 80's version of the character. That's what people are wanting.

Not me, I'm quite happy with Sparta as CoverGirl.

[Saboteur]

Not me, I'm quite happy with Sparta as CoverGirl.

And you're in the minority.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/testing-grounds-spam-o-rama/101544-jinx-vs-cover-girl-arah-g-i-joe-march-madness-2011-a.html

[Bombardier]

And you're in the minority.

http://www.hisstank.com/forum/testing-grounds-spam-o-rama/101544-jinx-vs-cover-girl-arah-g-i-joe-march-madness-2011-a.html

club figure is far superior to that one.

[Saboteur]

That's a custom, used for reference. That's not an actual Hasbro product.

[Bombardier]

That's a custom, used for reference. That's not an actual Hasbro product.

yes, i know that. So then why did you use it as a reference?

[Saboteur]

I didn't use it as a reference. Destro did to illustrate the character in the poll, just as he did with all 64 starting characters.

Would Hasbro to do a Cover Girl, it would be of the same quality and detail of the other figures they are making now. And not a frankenjoe that consists of parts left over from the 25th and DTC defunct lines, like the club figure.

But that's okay. You're cool with that. Good for you. I and so many others would like an ARAH accurate representation with the tooling and sculpting details that Hasbro is fully capable of now.

[Bombardier]

I didn't use it as a reference. Destro did to illustrate the character in the poll, just as he did with all 64 starting characters.

Would Hasbro to do a Cover Girl, it would be of the same quality and detail of the other figures they are making now. And not a frankenjoe that consists of parts left over from the 25th and DTC defunct lines, like the club figure.

But that's okay. You're cool with that. Good for you. I and so many others would like an ARAH accurate representation with the tooling and sculpting details that Hasbro is fully capable of now.

I have a feeling that the Club wanted to do a figure a little closer to Cover Girl's original look, but were told not to by Hasbro. Hopefully because they have plans on releasing it on their own.

[Saboteur]

They might. There's certainly a demand for her.

[Bombardier]

They might. There's certainly a demand for her.

I think i'd like a blonde, comic accurate version.

[ChaplainAsst]

I think i'd like a blonde, comic accurate version.

Comic = Brunette
Cartoon = Blonde

[kingofpain26]

that sounds fair enuf, we just need 1000 more being made, i just don't see the need for it, they have to order a certain amount, if they over order, then they'll be stuck with alot, and once the big deal of it dies down, they will not sell, they'll be setting in the store.

well I'm sure with this year's sellout, they will up their numbers back to what it was a few years ago (800-1000)

[Xenos]

well I'm sure with this year's sellout, they will up their numbers back to what it was a few years ago (800-1000)

You think there were fewer then 800 Dial Tone's made?

[Arbrias]

Between the loose bagged version and the carded version, I doubt there were less than 800 made. Though I do wonder, with what KoP said about the 800-1000 mark, if 1000 were made. This would mean 600 were carded and only 400 were available for the membership drive and selling on the site, which would account for why it has already sold out.

Either way, I think they should wait until after the convention to see if the demand is still warranted for another run after people have an opportunity to get ahold of the carded version.

[kingofpain26]

You think there were fewer then 800 Dial Tone's made?

they dropped their number to 600. since the 800-1000 runs are still for sale .

only Big lob, Dial tone, and the first three sets have sold out.

[cmderinchief]

they dropped their number to 600. since the 800-1000 runs are still for sale .

only Big lob, Dial tone, and the first three sets have sold out.

...and its pretty amazing that the Dreadnok set even sold out at all.

[Lody]

...and its pretty amazing that the Dreadnok set even sold out at all.

Why?

That set was AWESOME!

[Saboteur]

I think i'd like a blonde, comic accurate version.

Comic = Brunette
Cartoon = Blonde

She's a blonde in the current comics. But yeah, she was a brunette in the Marvel run and only a blonde temporarily in the cartoon.

There's already a blonde Cover Girl out there. Let's see the brunette ARAH version.

[Bombardier]

Comic = Brunette
Cartoon = Blonde

I think she was only blonde in one episode. After that, Shipwreck was flirting big time with brunette Cover Girl in multiple episodes.

And the comics I read, she's a blonde. A SMOKING hot blonde.

[kingofpain26]

Why?

That set was AWESOME!

...and it was also the least popular set. hell I don't think it sold out until LAST YEAR. 6 years after it was released.

I personally thought it was an OK set. but really overshadowed by the awesomeness of the last 6 years (Cobra's Most wanted, Iron Grenadiers, Tanks for the memories, Headhunters, Red Shadows... etc)

mainly illustrating how much better Lanny got with designing the sets.

(the exclusives were great, though, Im mad I missed out on the Steel Brigade con exclusives)

[ChaplainAsst]

I think she was only blonde in one episode. After that, Shipwreck was flirting big time with brunette Cover Girl in multiple episodes.

And the comics I read, she's a blonde. A SMOKING hot blonde.

See, now you are mixing apples and oranges. If they made a 30 for 30 figure, it would be of the brunette. And I think that is the ONLY way we will get a CG at this point. I doubt they would pick her out of all the IDW characters to make a figure of - more likely Crystal Ball or Big Boa or another unique Joe that might not otherwise be made but would sell. The ARAH figure was brunette. RoC gave you a blone CG.

The Sparta figure ... on the one hand, it is sort of what everyone wanted. It has the head sculpt that is so popular. It has a ME torso. But after that - misses in so many ways. Red hair? Light brown outfit? What kind of belt is that? A sniper rifle? And leaves out the distinctive Brown coat that the comic back agent had, as well as the memorable arm patch that ARAH figure had. And the biggest problem is this - if I compare the comic pack figure and the Sparta figure, there is no competition. I almost wish they had just re-released the comic pack figure - less articulation and all - in this pack as it far superior to the figure released.

[KushViper]

Does anyone know when the club will press release the rest of the con exclusives? In past years, did they wait this long? Thanks!

[PhilDpino]

I've always thought she was a red head.

Hasbro will probably do a brunette/redhead regular run with a blonde variant. Maybe they'll do all three hair colors.

And a short hair variant

And an African American variant

And a pilot variant...

And a Resolute variant...

And a Renegades variant...

And a IDW variant...

And a ninja battle variant...

And a male Cover Girl variant...

And a Shipwreck knocked her up variant...

[lister]

And a Shipwreck knocked her up variant...

Pregnant Cover Girl. Nice. I'd buy it.

[cmderinchief]

Does anyone know when the club will press release the rest of the con exclusives? In past years, did they wait this long? Thanks!

It is RARE we know what the exclusives will be prior to registration night. In some cases they promote stuff early like Slaughter's Mauraders, Slaughter, Piper and the carded Dial Tone. Other times stuff leaks via China like Lifeline last year or the PP Motor Viper this year. However, 9 times out of 10, we don't know until we line up Thursday Night. I can confirm, to no big surprise, a figure 2-pack and a para figure for this year. I have no idea what they look like though.

Several long time club members have asked the club to kinda clue us in beforehand, but they seem insistent and say the majority of club members want to be surprised. All I know is what I have learned from past conventions. There will be some sort of attendee bonus/freebie item, there will be a 2 pack, probably a 3-pack and a vehicle or two. In addition, this year we get a carded Dial Tone. A good solid round-a-bout figure of money to bring is in the $250 - $300 neighborhood for these. That number is high, but it should get you one of everything with cash to spare.

Anyone else have any thoughts or opinions on this?

[Starfighter]

Does anyone know when the club will press release the rest of the con exclusives? In past years, did they wait this long? Thanks!

The exclusive will be described in the Convention Comic and it will consist of a 2-pack limited to 600-650 pieces. We will most likely know on March 30th of the rest of the exclusives. 3-pack limited to 600-650 pieces . The Parachute Figure is iffy. It may be either 12" or 4". I am thinking 4". As for the vehicles, the con attendee exclusive vehicle will most likely be the Brazilian version of the Water Moccasin that is Maroon/Crimson. A Python S.T.U.N. is most likely in the works as well for an exclusive.

There may also be a single figure exclusive limited to 500 pieces with a small vehicle (python A.S.P.).

Here are the figures that are most likely being made:

Relampago (Brazilian Python Patrol version ARAH Ripcord)
Gatilho (Brazilian Python Patrol version ARAH Airborne)
Python Televiper (Reversed colors from the convention set)
Cobra Invasor
Alpinista (Brazilian version of ARAH Hit & Run)
Condor Alpinista (Brazilian version of ARAH Airborne)
Covergirl (ARAH)
Footloose (ARAH)

[Xenos]

they dropped their number to 600. since the 800-1000 runs are still for sale .

only Big lob, Dial tone, and the first three sets have sold out.

So are there 600 membership exclusives and 600 carded ones? I know they said there would be 600 carded ones, but I'm surprised that there are less then 600 ARAH collectors that signed up for the club.

[DPrime]

A Python S.T.U.N. is most likely in the works as well for an exclusive.

There may also be a single figure exclusive limited to 500 pieces with a small vehicle (python A.S.P.).

It will not, I say again, NOT be a Python STUN or ASP.

[Tuga Viper]

Inside scoop DPrime?! Let us know, please. So I can send enough money with my buddy.


EM

[Starfighter]

It will not, I say again, NOT be a Python STUN or ASP.

I guess we will see. Another F.A.N.G. perhaps. The vehicle(s) are most likely from this list if they are not a S.T.U.N. nor A.S.P. I could see the club releasing the remaining Small vehicles & Battle Stations as well (Air Defense, Check Point, Cobra Bunker, Forward Observer Unit, Ammo Dump Unit, Rifle Range Unit, H.A.L. [Heavy Artillery Laser], PAC/RAT -Flame Thrower, PAC/RAT - Machine Gun & PAC/RAT - Missile Launcher).

A.W.E Stryker
S.H.A.R.C.
VAMP
Firebat Jet
H.I.S.S.
Armadillo
C.L.A.W.
RAM Cycle
Flight Pod
M.O.B.A.T.
Stinger Jeep
Sky Hawk
F.L.A.K. Cannon
Water Moccasin
Silver
Steel Crusher A.P.V.
Wave Crusher
S.N.A.K.E. Armor
Heat Seek Missile System
Laser Artillery System
Outpost Defender
Surveillance Port
Ferret A.T.V.

[Lody]

It will not, I say again, NOT be a Python STUN or ASP.

Why not a STUN? They have the mold

[KushViper]

Why not a STUN? They have the mold

This!

I would love to see a stun updated with ME foot pegs!

[DPrime]

Inside scoop DPrime?! Let us know, please. So I can send enough money with my buddy.


EM

Why not a STUN? They have the mold

Nope just logic.

In all the years that they Club has been offering exclusives at the conventions, when have they EVER just released an old vintage mold in the same colours as the original?

Remember, what the Club does isn't what Hasbro's been doing for a while, since the beginning of the 25th line. Offering up fresh minty versions of the stuff we had as kids at RETAIL is one thing. The Club, however, is marketing stuff to the hard-core GI Joe collecting community. Anything they could have wanted from the vintage line - in mint condition, no less - they already got from Ebay or from trading on the forums.

What the Club DOES do is take old molds and put a new spin on them. If they did want to do a Python STUN and/or ASP, it would have to be substantially different from the originals for them to get the collectors to buy it. So I suppose it's conceivable... maybe in the same basic camo scheme but in different colours - maybe yellow and green, as opposed to purple/black/silver. That might be kind of neat.

However, what I think is more likely, is that the Club believes collectors might want NEW toys that match their old Python Patrol vehicles that they already have. Given the nature of Python Patrol (they can use GI Joe as well as Cobra vehicles) and the presumably vast amount of molds available for the Club to use (even given Hasbro's restrictions, which of course we aren't privy to), who knows what they might offer us? Could be any number of things - a PP Skyhawk, Water Moccasin, Stinger, HISS, VAMP, MOBAT, CLAW, Flight Pod... Personally, I'd like to see the VAMP. They need something to tow the old ASP...

[DPrime]

This!

I would love to see a stun updated with ME foot pegs!

I think we're more likely to see this at retail than from the Club.

But honestly, you don't even really need the foot pegs on the STUN. The vintage STUN works perfectly well with 25th figures. I've got my Python version displayed with 25th Cobra Python Officers and it looks great.

[Tucker]

Why not a STUN? They have the mold

I agree with your speculation. However, people keep saying things like that and I'm trying to figure out what exactly people mean by "have." Are we just assuming that because they were given the right to use it in the past that they have the right to use it any time they feel like it? Or do they actually have a mold for it that they own? Just wondering... Can anyone clear this up for me?

[ChaplainAsst]

Hasbro may have a stun or asp or both for us during the 30 for 30. Maybe even a new mold.

[DPrime]

I agree with your speculation. However, people keep saying things like that and I'm trying to figure out what exactly people mean by "have." Are we just assuming that because they were given the right to use it in the past that they have the right to use it any time they feel like it? Or do they actually have a mold for it that they own? Just wondering... Can anyone clear this up for me?

I think the Club "borrows" the molds from Hasbro. Since we saw a Dreadnok STUN released for the Con in... what was is, '04? It's reasonable to believe it's still available for use, either by the Club or Hasbro itself.

Hasbro may have a stun or asp or both for us during the 30 for 30. Maybe even a new mold.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a reissue of the STUN, either regular/PP or both. I just don't think the Club will do it. Like I said, there's no real need to do a new mold - just modify the foot pegs (or remove them entirely), and you're good to go.

The ASP might be problematic. Even RAH figures have a hard time fitting in there - 25th would be impossible. They'd have to do a whole new mold or some pretty substantial alterations.

[Tucker]

I think the Club "borrows" the molds from Hasbro. Since we saw a Dreadnok STUN released for the Con in... what was is, '04? It's reasonable to believe it's still available for use, either by the Club or Hasbro itself.

That's what I figured, thanks.

[kingofpain26]

well the other issue is: we still don't know exactly what molds were destroyed when Hasbro did the 'Purging" last year. SO the Stun Might not even be on the playing field anymore.

a good chunk of the classic 20+ year old RAH molds were destroyed.

Im actually speculating that it could probably be a New Sculpt Era Vehicle, as we see with the AT undersea vehicle set, those molds may mostly be intact.

[DPrime]

well the other issue is: we still don't know exactly what molds were destroyed when Hasbro did the 'Purging" last year. SO the Stun Might not even be on the playing field anymore.

a good chunk of the classic 20+ year old RAH molds were destroyed.

Im actually speculating that it could probably be a New Sculpt Era Vehicle, as we see with the AT undersea vehicle set, those molds may mostly be intact.

I think the "purging" was mainly RAH style figure molds, not vehicles. Doesn't make sense for Hasbro to get rid of the vehicles as they've been more than useful for the 25th and beyond years... Heck, just look at the upcoming Skystriker.

[Roshan]

I think the "purging" was mainly RAH style figure molds, not vehicles. Doesn't make sense for Hasbro to get rid of the vehicles as they've been more than useful for the 25th and beyond years... Heck, just look at the upcoming Skystriker.

Many of those 25th vehicles you see are not made from the original 80's vehicle molds. They are modified updates of them. The Skystriker is one of those.

[Magick]

As was the new water moccasin.. There are still plenty of molds from the ARAH line that will work with ME style... weather or not we get them is an entirely different story.

[Starfighter]

Nope just logic.

In all the years that they Club has been offering exclusives at the conventions, when have they EVER just released an old vintage mold in the same colours as the original?

Remember, what the Club does isn't what Hasbro's been doing for a while, since the beginning of the 25th line. Offering up fresh minty versions of the stuff we had as kids at RETAIL is one thing. The Club, however, is marketing stuff to the hard-core GI Joe collecting community. Anything they could have wanted from the vintage line - in mint condition, no less - they already got from Ebay or from trading on the forums.

What the Club DOES do is take old molds and put a new spin on them. If they did want to do a Python STUN and/or ASP, it would have to be substantially different from the originals for them to get the collectors to buy it. So I suppose it's conceivable... maybe in the same basic camo scheme but in different colours - maybe yellow and green, as opposed to purple/black/silver. That might be kind of neat.

However, what I think is more likely, is that the Club believes collectors might want NEW toys that match their old Python Patrol vehicles that they already have. Given the nature of Python Patrol (they can use GI Joe as well as Cobra vehicles) and the presumably vast amount of molds available for the Club to use (even given Hasbro's restrictions, which of course we aren't privy to), who knows what they might offer us? Could be any number of things - a PP Skyhawk, Water Moccasin, Stinger, HISS, VAMP, MOBAT, CLAW, Flight Pod... Personally, I'd like to see the VAMP. They need something to tow the old ASP...

YOU may have the old Python Patrol vehicles, but a majority of the collectors do not. Most likely, they would release them in a different Python scheme of Green/Yellow instead of the Crimson/Purple/Silver though. Personally, I think that the S.T.U.N. and A.S.P. are perfect as we have not gotten them yet in the ME era to go with the other Python Patrol stuff. They could have already been made and just not released. The con figs are re-releases of the A.R.A.H. stuff, so why can’t it be the vehicles be as well? It has been perceived that the Python Trooper and Python Tele-Vipers were to come out in the past but the ‘hiatus’ kept that from happening. The Club had convinced Hasbro (or vise-versa) to use them in the exclusive set.
As for the Club’s history, it is “history” to what we knew of how it operated before. The Joe Club has changed as they are no longer doing o-ring stuff and the 25th/ME stuff is a new direction. Hasbro has changed directions. A start over to say.

[kingofpain26]

yeah, the skystriker and water moccasin were completely retooled from the ground up.

[Starfighter]

yeah, the skystriker and water moccasin were completely retooled from the ground up.

As were most of the 25th stuff. Perhaps 85-90% of the 25th stuff was.

[wormser]

i want a new STUN damn it!!!

[toy-nutz]

I also think the Stun and Asp will not be at the convention. For one, the Asp will not fit a 25th figure. Heck it hardly fit an ARAH figure! No I can see the Ram or Snarl Cycle in PP colors for a small vehicle. Maybe even a Trouble Bubble with that re-colored Tele-Viper. I also am thinking a Stinger/Vamp in place for the Stun. Though I am wondering if we will see the Jungle Cutter from the Indy line.

Michael
Bulletman Big B

[Starfighter]

I hope that it is Joe only. No Star Wars, Indy, ETC stuff.

[KushViper]

I just wanna say thanks to everyone that has kept this discussion on topic and positive. It's been cool reading everyone's opinions and reasoning behind them.
A stun would be cool but I forgot that it was released for the Dreadnok Rampage set several years back. I bet we'll see either a Flight Pod or a SNAKE for the small vehicle pack.

[cmderinchief]

Though I am wondering if we will see the Jungle Cutter from the Indy line.

I will blame you if we get this. :-P

[toy-nutz]

I will blame you if we get this. :-P

Just call me Debbie Downer!

Yeah everyone on JoeCustoms said they will kill me if it is as I called the Indy Jungle Cutter as soon as the set was announced as Mission Brazil II.

Now I do not want it to be the JC, but it does make sense. I really hope we get a Stinger or Vamp or even a DTC Hummer(for the Joes).

Michael
Bulletman Big B

[DPrime]

Many of those 25th vehicles you see are not made from the original 80's vehicle molds. They are modified updates of them. The Skystriker is one of those.

Well, duh! :) Yeah, I know that. But a lot of them do use the original molds. Considering how well the STUN fits new figs, I can't imagine why they would trash it.

YOU may have the old Python Patrol vehicles, but a majority of the collectors do not.

Most of the collectors who spend the kind of money to go the con year after year also have the kind of money to buy the vintage items they want. The Club knows this. They're not aiming for the average "I just started collecting when the 25th line started up" Hisstank collector. These things are going to cost a LOT more than retail items or most vintage vehicles on Ebay - the type of collector that goes to these things are NOT going to want something they can easily get on Ebay.

Most likely, they would release them in a different Python scheme of Green/Yellow instead of the Crimson/Purple/Silver though.

Like I said, a possibility... But I don't use the term "likely" as lightly as you do. My logic followed a series of known facts: the vast availability of different molds the Club could conceivably use; established trends and patterns the Club has set with past releases; the type of collectors they're going to attempt to sell these to; the fact that the ASP would require HEAVY re-tooling to work with 25th figures, etc. You're just saying what you THINK and/or would LIKE to see without really giving a reason why it would be "likely" to happen, other than some really vague assumptions (they MAY already have made a retooled ASP... and yet we never saw test shots for it like everything else... the Club is "going in a different direction", etc.).

Here's a couple other things to consider:

1. Python Patrol vehicles have a very distinct, uniform look. Why mess with it? Would a yellow and bright green STUN even look good? Would collectors rather have this, or would they rather have a NEW addition to the PP ranks that matches exactly the vehicles they have and/or can get.

2. The Club is known for trying to surprise us. Why go for something so obvious? Honestly, knowing them, they probably ARE more likely to do a Python Patrol Jungle Cutter than the old STUN. Just look at the crazy (but cool) stuff we got last year...

It would be like when the Club did the Crimson Strike Team in 25th style... according to you, they would have been "likely" to get maybe the Crimson CAT, but instead we got something way out of left field - a Crimson friggin' helicopter from the GI Joe Rhino!

For those of you who want a PP STUN, just get one off Ebay. You won't regret it... and you'll probably pay less than what you would for a Club attendee exclusive vehicle

Honestly, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[kingofpain26]

Well, duh! :) Yeah, I know that. But a lot of them do use the original molds. Considering how well the STUN fits new figs, I can't imagine why they would trash it.


1) It cost way too much money to store these molds, especially the 20+year old ones that are deteriorating, especially when they're NOT SURE they're gonna use them. so HASBRO trashed the molds. it was a simple business sence. they kept a few FOR THEMSELVES, and trashed the rest, the club managed to get to use a few (which is why we got a fang in 09) but the Club doesnt store these molds, hasbro does. and if hasbro doesnt wanna foot the bill for storage or mold restoation, they chuck them.


Most of the collectors who spend the kind of money to go the con year after year also have the kind of money to buy the vintage items they want. The Club knows this. They're not aiming for the average "I just started collecting when the 25th line started up" Hisstank collector. These things are going to cost a LOT more than retail items or most vintage vehicles on Ebay - the type of collector that goes to these things are NOT going to want something they can easily get on Ebay.


this would be a dangerously blind assumption on your part... I don't even know how to begin explaining how wrong this is...


Like I said, a possibility... But I don't use the term "likely" as lightly as you do. My logic followed a series of known facts: the vast availability of different molds the Club could conceivably use; established trends and patterns the Club has set with past releases; the type of collectors they're going to attempt to sell these to; the fact that the ASP would require HEAVY re-tooling to work with 25th figures, etc. You're just saying what you THINK and/or would LIKE to see without really giving a reason why it would be "likely" to happen, other than some really vague assumptions (they MAY already have made a retooled ASP... and yet we never saw test shots for it like everything else... the Club is "going in a different direction", etc.).

again this is WAY OFF:

The club doesn't have a "Vast number of Molds". They have already admitted that most RAH molds HAVE BEEN DESTROYED only a select few remain that HASBRO kept for their use, the club can only use them if HASBRO allows it. They DON'T have free reign on anything. And after the Mauler Debacle, it was proven that the club is Unwilling to foot the bill to retool or remake a complete Vehicle mold.

Second, the club has to cater to a multitude of collector, the only certainty they have is LATELY they have been forced to use more 25th construction molds, and the NEWER collectors are picking up on it. A lot of these collectors you claim can afford the sets are actually O-ring collectors, and several that I know DON'T want the set because of that.
...Not to mention that pretty much EVERYONE has been affected by the recent Economic Downturn. Half of us have curt back on spending, some of us buy Joes by the skin of our teeth, some buy joes by sacrificing something else ( I personally exclusively buy Joes by NOT buying Video games or DVDs anymore), and the rest Don't buy joes at all.

...If you honestly think that we go to joecon multiple years just because of the sets? Well then you have pretty much missed the whole point of Joecon. Ive gone to Joecon consecutively for the last 6 years, and I haven't Bought a con set for myself since 08. Many of the Con Regulars would agree with me.

Third, everyone ELSE has noticed the club recently using NEW SCULPT vehicle molds in both their exclusive sets and club vehicles, further illustrating that the RAH molds may have been destroyed, or in the exclusive use of Hasbro.

so it is much more likely that we will see a New Sculpt Vehicle, or a Non Joe vehicle in Python Patrol colors.

Hell... the vehicle might even be in Mission Brazil colors for the Joes instead (nobody bothered to think of THAT fact)

[Hicks_Royel]

I also think the Stun and Asp will not be at the convention. For one, the Asp will not fit a 25th figure. Heck it hardly fit an ARAH figure! No I can see the Ram or Snarl Cycle in PP colors for a small vehicle. Maybe even a Trouble Bubble with that re-colored Tele-Viper. I also am thinking a Stinger/Vamp in place for the Stun. Though I am wondering if we will see the Jungle Cutter from the Indy line.

Michael
Bulletman Big B
You can get a basic cobra trooper into the ASP. It's cramped. But he will fit. But since we have seen a Python Motor-viper, I'm inclined to believe he'll come with either a STUN or Snake-Trax.

Or, we could all be wrong and see another reused SW Bunker barrier that leads to no where. I think they still have several of those.

[DPrime]

Okay, I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing with me here... We both know they kept SOME molds - you even say so yourself:

1) It cost way too much money to store these molds, especially the 20+year old ones that are deteriorating, especially when they're NOT SURE they're gonna use them. so HASBRO trashed the molds. it was a simple business sence. they kept a few FOR THEMSELVES, and trashed the rest, the club managed to get to use a few (which is why we got a fang in 09) but the Club doesnt store these molds, hasbro does. and if hasbro doesnt wanna foot the bill for storage or mold restoation, they chuck them.

I don't know how many they kept. Neither do you. What are we arguing here - that you think it's "less" than what I think? How would you even know how many I have in mind? (Hint: I don't have a number - we might even be thinking around the same amount, to be quite honest.) All I was saying is that they kept SOME molds, at least... and you seem to agree and somehow disagree at the same time.

Or are you disagreeing with me specifically on the STUN? I suppose it COULD have been among those thrown out... but like you said, they definitely kept SOME of the RAH vehicle molds. My thoughts are that those they kept, they probably intend to use - I think we can agree that they just didn't throw them out haphazardly. There's probably a large number of incomplete molds (e.g. Mauler) that are unusable - no doubt most if not all went in the trash. Then there are those that they are 100% certain will NOT work in the 25th/ME lines, and most of those went out - this probably included any Eco Warriors or other '90s nonsense. Whatever they kept, they probably did so out of potential utility to future releases. Now, we know that the 25th line has come and gone, but we also know that Hasbro is still interested in RAH designs (Low Light, Sci-Fi, Crazylegs, 30th anniversary, etc).

Considering we know that the STUN is one of comparatively few RAH molds that survived - at least until '04 - completely intact, we know that it fits 25th style figures perfectly and is thus compatible with any new 3 3/4" GI Joe line Hasbro decides to release, and that it would be a pretty good "RAH Easter egg" to include for the fans (in the same vein as Low Light or Sci Fi), or perhaps as a Target exclusive, or maybe part of whatever they're doing for the 30th line... I think it's a good bet the STUN is one of the molds they've kept.

this would be a dangerously blind assumption on your part... I don't even know how to begin explaining how wrong this is...


Well, I don't see how this would be a "dangerously" blind assumption, but I don't think I'm way off on this. The Club hasn't reissued straight up RAH vehicles as exclusives - ever. Why assume they would do so now?

again this is WAY OFF:

The club doesn't have a "Vast number of Molds". They have already admitted that most RAH molds HAVE BEEN DESTROYED only a select few remain that HASBRO kept for their use, the club can only use them if HASBRO allows it. They DON'T have free reign on anything. And after the Mauler Debacle, it was proven that the club is Unwilling to foot the bill to retool or remake a complete Vehicle mold.

Okay, so maybe "vast" was overstating it a bit - fair enough. But remember that I did say "conceivably". We don't know how many options Hasbro has given them, but even if we don't know the specifics, CONCEIVABLY they could use any vehicle mold Hasbro has in their possession. We do know that they do have a choice - and remember, I didn't say a "vast number of RAH molds", right? Or did you just ready what you chose to read?

Last year, they used an Indiana Jones truck and Star Wars bunker.

My whole point was that they probably won't just reissue the Python STUN as it was in '89. They seem to like to think a bit more outside the box than that, and if they don't have a "vast" choice, they have SOME.

Second, the club has to cater to a multitude of collector, the only certainty they have is LATELY they have been forced to use more 25th construction molds, and the NEWER collectors are picking up on it. A lot of these collectors you claim can afford the sets are actually O-ring collectors, and several that I know DON'T want the set because of that.
...Not to mention that pretty much EVERYONE has been affected by the recent Economic Downturn. Half of us have curt back on spending, some of us buy Joes by the skin of our teeth, some buy joes by sacrificing something else ( I personally exclusively buy Joes by NOT buying Video games or DVDs anymore), and the rest Don't buy joes at all.

...If you honestly think that we go to joecon multiple years just because of the sets? Well then you have pretty much missed the whole point of Joecon. Ive gone to Joecon consecutively for the last 6 years, and I haven't Bought a con set for myself since 08. Many of the Con Regulars would agree with me.

Third, everyone ELSE has noticed the club recently using NEW SCULPT vehicle molds in both their exclusive sets and club vehicles, further illustrating that the RAH molds may have been destroyed, or in the exclusive use of Hasbro.

so it is much more likely that we will see a New Sculpt Vehicle, or a Non Joe vehicle in Python Patrol colors.

Hell... the vehicle might even be in Mission Brazil colors for the Joes instead (nobody bothered to think of THAT fact)

Blah blah blah, more of the same... You seem to be going off on some kind of rant here, so I won't address the specifics.

I don't even think you understood my argument. All I was saying is, this guy thinks they're going to reissue the STUN and ASP - I'm saying no, and this is why, etc. I did concede that the STUN mold is probably still available for use, and for some reason this little sidetrack seemed to have gotten you worked up.

LET ME BE CLEAR: I'm not saying it won't be new sculpt. I'm not saying collectors go to the con just for the sets (I have NO IDEA where you came up with that), I'm not saying we won't see a Joe vehicle, and I'm not saying Hasbro HASN'T destroyed a lot of old RAH molds.

The only real valid point you've made here is that the exclusives MAY be a new sculpt vehicle... Now, I don't know why you felt the need to ARGUE that with me since I never once denied this possibility in anything I wrote, or even brought it up at all...

[wormser]

you have too much time on your hands..... lol

[DPrime]

You can get a basic cobra trooper into the ASP. It's cramped. But he will fit. But since we have seen a Python Motor-viper, I'm inclined to believe he'll come with either a STUN or Snake-Trax.

Or, we could all be wrong and see another reused SW Bunker barrier that leads to no where. I think they still have several of those.

You mean a basic 25th Cobra Trooper?

That would indeed be a tight fit. I don't think it would look right - I have a few ASPs back home but since I had a tough time getting a RAH figure to look natural in them I didn't even both with trying a 25th figure...

Like I said though, the STUN is ideal for 25th figures.

[DPrime]

you have too much time on your hands..... lol

Ugh, I know, I wasted a lot of time writing that.

I actually DON'T have a lot of time on my hands right now. I'm deployed in friggin' Afghanistan (which is why I can't go to the con this year...). But I've had a couple hours to kill before bed lately so I'm able to check the Tank and see what's up. This close to the con, I'm pretty antsy for news...

Meh, what can I say. I love Joes.

[Lody]

I agree with your speculation. However, people keep saying things like that and I'm trying to figure out what exactly people mean by "have." Are we just assuming that because they were given the right to use it in the past that they have the right to use it any time they feel like it? Or do they actually have a mold for it that they own? Just wondering... Can anyone clear this up for me?

It was used previously-so it is safe to assume that it wasn't one of the molds that was destroyed. They retooled the hubcaps but everything else was original. "have" is speculative as it's more like access to it

[TEMPLAR BAGGINS]

wow, I just got dumber...

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/shockwave-the-magnificent/facepalm.gif

[KushViper]

wow, I just got dumber...

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/shockwave-the-magnificent/facepalm.gif

WOW!^^^ Ultimate face-palm.

[Lody]

GODZILLA IS ATTACKING THE CITY!


http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn92/shockwave-the-magnificent/facepalm.gif


no!

[Hicks_Royel]

You mean a basic 25th Cobra Trooper?

That would indeed be a tight fit. I don't think it would look right - I have a few ASPs back home but since I had a tough time getting a RAH figure to look natural in them I didn't even both with trying a 25th figure...

Like I said though, the STUN is ideal for 25th figures.
Yep. The ASP will fit a 25th Trooper. And he looks fine... The face does sit inside the HUD on the rollcage though. Or at least he doesn't look anymore awkward than a ARAH figure in a vehicle with no controls to pilot the thing with.

[Zefram]

WOW!^^^ Ultimate face-palm.

A new challenger steps in!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Animation/1232550426_worf-face-palm.gif

[Hicks_Royel]

Anyway, back on topic. If you missed Dial-Tone because you didn't join the club for whatever reason after having eight months of knowing Dial-Tone was coming, that's too bad for you. If they never make another Dial-Tone you can only blame yourself for missing the boat.

[DPrime]

Anyway, back on topic. If you missed Dial-Tone because you didn't join the club for whatever reason after having eight months of knowing Dial-Tone was coming, that's too bad for you. If they never make another Dial-Tone you can only blame yourself for missing the boat.

Case closed!

Hey, at least there's the aftermarket... all is not lost, except a few extra bucks...

[Hicks_Royel]

But... but... why do I have to spend more money for a second tier character I only wanted after it was sold out and still don't want to spend 42 bucks for in the first place?

[dayglojoe]

Ok well I think since last year I joined the club and expected a Big Lob figure and was told that because I joined in april I would have to wait for next years figure (after BigLob was sold out) and they did not make more. They should not make anymore Dial Tones either. After all as a PATIENT club member I still got stuck paying after market on the lame ass black mercer figure. I would think it would be a lot easier to fork over $30 aftermarket for an awesome Dial Tone. Just my opinion

[DPrime]

But... but... why do I have to spend more money for a second tier character I only wanted after it was sold out and still don't want to spend 42 bucks for in the first place?

lol, well, that's the collecting game!

[gunslingercbr]

But... but... why do I have to spend more money for a second tier character I only wanted after it was sold out and still don't want to spend 42 bucks for in the first place?

because life is fair and equal and you deserve everything everyone else has. now get in your bread line and hope you get a piece without mold, but at least everyone is only eating bread.

[Beckley]

A new challenger steps in!

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy302/zeframmann/Animation/1232550426_worf-face-palm.gif

The son of Mogh will always have my vote!

[mr pawn]

worf does not approve, i didn't even get any friggin bread last time i was in line, it just ain't fair

[Starfighter]

One thing that I am surprised that is I posted this link on the club website the day this thread was formed and not one response had been replied over there. I feel as a member, that there is no "membership" in the club. You just pay to receive a figure and a monthly comic. The discounts are arbitrary as the club can charge whatever they want. The real only benefit for joining is the reserve you get on the club figure. It costs the same if you buy anything else in the club as you end up paying for the Membership at that time to get the cheapest deal. You just might miss out on previous club figures but you will get the current annual figure that they choose to make.

As for making more, it is dangerous practice to incline people to believe that the membership figure will be made in excess so that you can purchase another on the store website. If so, it is not beneficial to become a member every year. That is because many will just wait to see what next years figure is to get a cheaper price. How is it beneficial to be a member every year if you can just go back and buy the previous figures? It will only cost you $60 dollars to do so instead of $80. Financially, it is cheaper to wait and get two figures for an average of $30 instead of joining up every year for an average of $40. That is why members should have a say in this decision as it is costing them more each year on average than non-members getting a better price. Being a member should mean something. A community-like feel for a cause. That is not not happening here. In the reality of the this club, membership only equals the ability to reserve a yearly figure.

I do not mean to put down the club and am thankful; for what we get, but I am just frustrated that as a member, there is no membership feel. I wish that there were members actively speaking on the boards over there and that we had more of a say.

As stated before, there will always be complaining by those that miss out. But the complaints that should be heard are the ones from the members. They are the driving force of the club. Perhaps, the Club should poll it's member-base and whatever is decided should stand. That is a big incentive there for being a member. The non-members should really have no say. But is the Club really a club or a just a business that dictates everything from the design, costs & production?. It seems as it is just a place to get an exclusive figure once a year. There really is no "club" about it in reality. There really is no say nor activity on their forums. It is a very quiet message board and that does not see a lot of traffic. It is a one man show (I know a few people are involved) but the members do not have a say in anything at all. I am in no way bashing it, but wish that there was more involvement. It is more-so a business than a club. That is not good, IMO.

For those that are arguing that the club will gain a lot of members if they decide to resale the Dial-Tone figure, that is simply not the case, it will add revenue, but it will come from most of it's current members and or scalpers that join up. You will see more on other e-tailers and ebay for perhaps a cheaper price. Most likely in the $30 dollar range.

[Starfighter]

Sorry for the long post above that will just get lost in the message boards.