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07-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Master Thespian
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I've been a bit under the weather, so I need to comment on a bit more than everyone else. Rampage and Wreckage are nice updates to be sure, z. Nice to see someone acknowledging the issue of Hispanic under-representation in Joe as well. Although I'm kind of surprised to see you venturing into the post-ARAH stuff (although it makes me hopeful that perhaps on a later iteration of your project you'll get around to Crosshairs, Depth Charge and many more of the cool new sculpt guys). As always, you've got me itching to see your updated organizational list.
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I know display of the Confederate flag is a controversial issue for some. Many consider the practice of contemporary display of the confederate flag to be an exercise in glorifying the slavery era but just as many also consider it as a legitimate symbol of their Southern US heritage, distinct from the practice of slavery.
As a black man from the South, I have to tell you, I find the Confederate flag to be highly offensive. There are many people who wear it with it's only meaning being a symbol of Southern Pride. The problem is that there are many VOCAL parties who use it as a symbol of hate.
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Personally, I find it no more offensive than, say, somebody displaying the Spanish flag (which, by virtue of where I was born and raised, I associate with the 300 years of subjugation the Spanish empire imposed on the Philippine islands), the Japanese imperial colours (conquered the Philippines in particularly brutal fashion during WWII), and the American flag (it's estimated that the US Army killed anywhere between 200 000 to 1.5 million Filipino civilians during the Philippine-American War -- euphemistically termed in American history books until recently as a "pacification action" -- after having appropriated the country from Spain at the close of the 19th century). I'm not saying that there's any equivalence between any of those three examples and slavery in the Southern US, but it's the closest I have to a relatable experience to that of somebody who might take offense at the display of the Confederate flag, even in something as innocuous as GI Joe fan art.
It not quite the same, though. To even have an analogue, there would have to have been a separate flag created by people who specifically supported continuing the actions against the Filipinos. The other flags must be looked at as a whole of their country's respective actions. The flag was created as a banner of the states who wanted to to secede from the union for many reasons, one of the major reasons being that they wanted to keep slavery. To marginalize that fact is disrespectful and ill-advised.
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I agree with you on keeping the hat and flag. It's not a big deal. For someone to make the association that it's supporting slavery is just wrong and really grasping.
I don't necessarily see it as supporting slavery (although you'd be surprised to know that many people who display the flag don't see the problem with slavery), but to view it as representative of group people who HATE all minorites (and blacks in particular) isn't a leap of any kind. Especially when you've been beaten up by people wearing shirts with the flag on them and and being told that "These colors don't run, #!@@3&".
Take the swastika for example: it has held significant religious meaning long before the Nazis got a hold of it. But if a person wears it with anti-Jewish sentiment attached to it, I hope you wouldn't tell a Jew who was offended by it that "It's not a big deal". One should never confuse "it doesn't bother me" with "it doesn't matter".
All that said, I would hate to have seen you remove it from Cross-Country. It's a visual hallmark of his, and something that doesn't necessarily equate to someone being a racist. There are all kinds of people in the military, with all different kinds of points of view. And it would certainly be interesting to see how he explained wearing it to a guy like Roadblock (who grew up in Mississippi and probably encountered a lot of the same negative situations with it as I did). The update looks incredible (and I like what you did with Tripwire, who had previously been a generic EOD photograph).
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