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06-17-2009, 12:17 PM
zuludelta
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Budo is a good update, he's an ugly mofo though.
Ha!
I used Cary Hiroyuku Tagawa's face for Budo. You may remember him as the guy who played Shang Tsung in the first Mortal Kombat film. He's got one of those "interesting" faces. Not conventionally attractive by Hollywood standards, but he's got a really expressive face that packs a lot of "storytelling" punch. Other performers whose faces I would put in this group: Steve Buscemi, Gary Oldman, Illeana Douglas, William H. Macy, Christopher Walken, Rowan Atkinson...
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I like Red Dog. Big and mean looking. Not someone to mess with. What's his role on the team exactly?
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I, too, am curious about the role of all the various positions on the Special Response Team.
SRTs and other related rapid response security and policing groups (like the Navy's VBSS teams) are organized differently depending on the service. Standard Army and USMC practice is to have at minimum, a seven man SRT, divided into a five man entry team and a two man marksman/observer team. The entry team is composed of the team leader, the point man, and 3 defensemen. The assistant team leader usually takes position as the third defenseman/rear security. The defensemen are the basic unit of the SRT (sort of like how the rifleman is the basic unit of the infantry squad), they are the primary breaching and assault assets and they cover the point man during maneuvers. Ideally, all the members of the entry team are cross-trained in the different roles.
I mixed it up a little with the Joe's SRT by being more specific with the first two defenseman positions, listing Barbecue as the Tactical Breaching Specialist (the defenseman primarily in charge of explosive and non-explosive breaching duties) and Topside as an Assaulter (the defenseman primarily tasked with covering the point man during maneuvers and the first to enter a known hostile area for the purposes of engagement... as opposed to the point man, who enters a hostile area for the primary purpose of reconnaissance). The Army doesn't usually use the terms tactical breacher and assaulter, but most SWAT teams use them or some variant.
VBSS teams are somewhat different, and although I don't have a VBSS team on my version of the Joe team, it helps to think about how these teams are structured to give a sense of the overlap in their duties (and especially since I have Topside's training being VBSS-based). A typical VBSS team would consist of a team leader, two sweep teams (consisting of two to three "sweepers" each, with each sweep team consisting, functionally, of at least one sweeper acting as a point man and one sweeper acting as a defenseman), and one security team (who are in charge of keeping the boarded vessel's crew on one end of the ship while the sweep teams do their thing). VBSS teams will also occasionally have marksmen, although given the limited space in which VBSS teams operate, their snipers/observers often maintain watch off-vessel, either in a helicopter or in the watercraft that carried the VBSS team.
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See what's the difference of a Combat Controller who would be working with Delta Force or Green Berets and these 24thSpecial Tactics CCT commandos? Same training just now there is a whole platoon of them? or Company? I feel like an Airport seizure requires at least a company of men 75-150. Maybe more.
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And is there a need for a CC to be with a DF, GB or Ranger unit if they have access to JATCs?
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I'm guessing not. But perhaps they interchange these units depending on location and size of the mission. I wonder where JTACs and Combat Controllers fall in line with the USSOCOM structure. If the 24th Special Tactics is in direct command of the USSOCOM commander as are Delta and DEVGRU do those particular units just use those guys. It seem like you only get a few Combat controllers on loan to you, not a whole unit.
I'm not entirely sure myself what the 24th STS does that makes it "JSOC-worthy" as a standalone unit, compared to, say, the 22nd and 23rd STS (which are under AFSOC). Pure speculation here, but I think they're just redistributed to Delta and DEVGRU as expert combat-arms & special insertion-capable air controller assets as mission needs dictate, although I wouldn't be surprised if the 24th STS actually conducts commando-style raids (a lá SEAL or Ranger units) by itself.
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