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05-31-2009, 12:16 PM
zuludelta
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Wouldn't Torpedo outrank Duke and then negate Duke's function as being the top NCO and running things in the field?
Depends on which "version" of Torpedo you're referring to. Torpedo was originally written in as a Chief Warrant Officer, while in later versions, he's referred to as "Lt. Torpedo."
Warrant Officers are in that no-man's land between senior NCOs and traditional commissioned officers (lieutenants and such). They nominally outrank senior NCOs, but they are only considered as leaders and officers in technical matters, and not in the "command" sense. An E-9 would have more "unofficial" clout with regards to administrative concerns and actually running a unit than say, a W-2. Complicating matters further, at least in the Navy and the Marines, are the existence of limited-duty officers (LDOs). LDOs are like Warrant Officers in the Navy and the USMC, in that they don't have to have college degrees (although a college degree is recommended) to get their commission and that they are drawn from the senior NCO ranks. Exceptionally talented and skilled NCOs who aren't interested in staying enlisted or going Warrant Officer can apply for the LDO program. LDOs have all the same rank insignia, privileges, and responsibilites of line officers (those who graduated from the USNA or OCS) but there's a somewhat arbitrary limit to how high they can go (O-6 is the maximum, I think, although I read about an exceptional LDO getting promoted to rear admiral a few years back) and their choice of officer career field is limited to the ones related to their enlisted job (a former enlisted Navy SEAL or SWCC, for example, pretty much can only become a NavSpecWar LDO).
As you can imagine, this can lead to some pretty awkward situations. Say you've got an E-6(P) successfully graduating from the LDO program. He's now an Ensign (2nd Lieutenant in the Marines), or even a Lieutenant Junior Grade (1st Lieutenant in the Marines). He now vastly outranks the senior NCOs he used to serve under. I'm sure most sailors and marines are professional enough about it, but try to imagine a Senior Chief Petty Officer, with maybe 20 years time in service, taking orders from a guy who, just a year before, was an E-6(P) with maybe just an associate's degree and just 10 or 11 years time-in-service.
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