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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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05-22-2009, 02:12 PM
zuludelta
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loose Cannon
Your Keel Haul is the XO right? Obviously there is no USS Flagg as we know it in your Joeverse. Since he is a Commander now. I suppose he is your Flight Squadron Commander? Where will Payload fit in?
Payload is in charge of the Aviation element. Keel Haul isn't an active pilot with the team, but the team's full-time XO (since I gave him a Master's degree in Defense Analysis from the Naval Postgraduate School, I figure the best place to put him would be on staff).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fogger1138
Totally looks like Gloval - I noticed that before you mentioned it. Very cool.
Glad the design made the Gloval connection apparent
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Troynos
The problem is finding models for the various things.
So I'll probably substitute real planes for the Joe planes and/or close enough looking models.
So right now I have models for:
AC-130
C-130
A-10 Thunderbolt (Tiger Rat)
Cobra Helicopter (Dragonfly equivalent)
Apache (Dragonfly equivalent)
Blackhawk (2 different versions)
V-22 Osprey (replacing the Tomahawk)
I like the real-world analogues you've assigned to the Joe aircraft. You can call the C-130 the Defiant (sounds appropriate) and the AC-130 the Phantom (just because all AC-130 models are given "supernatural"-themed nicknames). Not a fan of the V-22 Osprey (as I've made painfully clear in a long ago post that threatened to derail this thread) but from a visual design perspective, I think it's a good update of the Tomahawk (although I'd prefer it if the Tomahawk was an actual Blackhawk or an MH-47 special operations helicopter).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Troynos
I want to use a large equipment/vehicle transport helicopter, have a model for a Sikorsky Skycrane, but wondering if there's a military equivalent?
Off the top of my head, I think the most powerful heavy lift helicopter in the DoD inventory is the USMC's
CH-53E Super Stallion
. It has a maximum payload capacity of 30000 lbs. (compared to 20000 lbs. for the Army's CH-47 heavy lift helicopter and the Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane).
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loose Cannon
Things like the Rolling Thunder, Thunderclap, General, MCC and Defiant... I don't think I'm going to include them. It comes down to a "real world" idea. They're cool and all, but how do you move them around? If the Fort is in North America, how would you get the Rolling Thunder to Sierra Gordo or Trucial Abysmia, in time to be useful? And that would be easier then the MCC or General.
Large ground attack/tactical vehicles like the MCC and the General are pretty impractical. Not only are they a logistical nightmare, they're also very large and relatively slow-moving targets. The MCC for example, would probably cost in the tens of millions of dollars range, but a well-placed shot from a $300 RPG-7 could pretty much render it useless as a "mobile" command center.
An idea I've been kicking around for a Mobile Command Center is something more practical, along the lines of the Army's
M1087 trucks
. It's nowhere near as large as the Mobile Command Center (or even the HAVOC), but is a field-proven mobile command post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Troynos
I love Skyhawks, so would have a bunch of those (they're easy enough to load into the C-130) except for the model issue. There is a Skyhawk-like Model. I don't like it though, just doesn't look right (it's someone's interpreation of a Skyhawk). So I'm not sure what I'll do for that yet.
A good real-world analogue for the Skyhawk is the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment's
AH-6
and
MH-6
Little Bird helicopters. Up to three of them can be loaded onto C-130s and two can be loaded inside a standard 40-foot ISO container trailer and they're light enough (less than 1000 lbs. dry and
sans
weapons) that they can be towed cross-country by a civilian pick-up.
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