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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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05-11-2009, 01:21 PM
zuludelta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Troynos
I always found it odd that an artillery-man was the leader of a Spec. Ops unit.
I think it was just so his original toy version would make sense being packaged with the Mobile Missile System playset.
There's nothing really that should prevent an Artillery officer from going Special Forces, though. As I've mentioned before, an officer must at least be an O-2(P) (a 1st lieutenant on the promotion list to captain) or preferably a full O-3 qualified in one of the combat arms branches (infantry, field artillery, air defense artillery, army aviation, armor, corps of engineers) to be eligible for Special Forces Officer training. One could easily imagine Hawk starting out as a field artillery or air defense artillery officer and then going Special Forces once he hit captain.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Loose Cannon
What was Hama's idea that he used to base GIJoe off of? He had the team that was lead by Fury's kid but who were the characters? If Nick Fury Jr? was meant to be the leader then where did Hawk come from? I saw something where the original idea had Leatherneck and Tunnel-Rat as the original members, but I can't remember who had that link.
Back in the late 1970s, Hama pitched a comic book concept to Marvel calling it
Fury Force
, a spin-off of the then-popular
Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD
comics Marvel was publishing at the time.
undated (late 1970s/very early 1980s) "Fury Force" character sheet drawn by Larry Hama;
Top Row, from left to right: Scarlett, Hawk, Steeler, Snake-Eyes
Bottom Row, from left to right: Tunnel Rat, Leatherneck, Stalker
undated (late 1970s/very early 1980s) "Hawk" character sheet drawn by Larry Hama;
"Hawk" could have been Nick Fury's (or Nick Fury's son's) code-name as leader of Fury Force
undated (late 1970s/very early 1980s) "Scarlett" character sheet drawn by Larry Hama;
note the unit insignia on the top right
Larry Hama's pitch was rejected by Marvel's editors at the time. In 1981 or thereabouts, Hasbro hired Larry Hama to write the filecards for their new "A Real American Hero" line of 1:18 scale GI Joe toys, and he then resurrected and re-designed many of his concepts for
Fury Force
and used them for the early GI Joe characters.
Coincidentally,
Fury Force
was supposed to be an international anti-terrorist team (SHIELD operates under the direction of the United Nations), so it seems like we've finally come full-circle in a way, what with the upcoming
GI Joe: Rise of Cobra
live-action film featuring a GI Joe team re-imagined as an international strike force.
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