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02-10-2009, 08:22 PM
fogger1138
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oliverbox
About Batman, I understand what you're saying but I will have to politely disagree. I still read Batman and Detective Comics every month and I love it... too bad about the current story line. However, Batman is rarely written well in JLA and it just doesn't fit. He's the worlds finest detective and perhaps the best marital artist... I don't care how many boards he can break, that doesn't mean he can run with GL, Flash, Superman, John Jones, and Wonder Woman. Batman is great, but he's best when he's in Gotham City fighting criminals.
I have no problem having a civil disagreement with you here.
I like Batman best as written by Grant Morrison in the JLA - he's the guy who scared the crap out of the White Martians because he's the one who figured them out when the rest of the League didn't/couldn't. He's the guy who does the League's tactics from afar.
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Troynos
I don't mind that Captain America or Batman is hanging with the JLA and Avengers, it's just when they then go back (in their own books) and have a tough time with common thugs... That's when I have issues.
So if Batman is so tough and Two-Face gives him a hard time, then Two-Face should be able to mop the floor with most of the Justice League.
It's just bad writing. I like having the non-powered man be so feared and respected by the "god"-like powered people. It gives the books a nice balance and kind of grounds them. Doesn't make 'em seem so tough.
TOTALLY agree with this. That's why I specifically mentioned "when written well".
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Troynos
That's why I've never been able to get into Batman, the two "faces" so to speak.
On one hand, he's a street-level guy, can get surprised and taken out by normal everyday thugs.
On the other hand, he's able to stand up to Superman.
Which is he?
Pick one.
How he's handled in JLA depends entirely on the writer. Some can make it work and some can't.
I like when it works. When, here's a normal unpowered guy, and he scares the crap out of guys on Superman-level. I love when that works, and it has before in the past (not reading JLA currently, so not sure if the current writer is making it work).
It's always the problem with guys like Batman, Green Arrow, Captain America, Hawkeye, etc..
How to balance the street-level nature and still make 'em take on cosmic-level.
It just doesn't work. Has to be one or the other.
Yeah - when it works, it works really well. Frankly, I can reconcile a guy who can be surprised by a street thug (momentarily) but still take out someone much more powerful than he is with some planning. It all depends on the writing, though, and I understand that it doesn't work for everyone.
Green Arrow is still a punk with a bow and arrow, though.
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