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02-05-2009, 12:39 AM
Tanksmasher
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Loose Cannon
This is Awesome! I got a spreadsheet someone sent me I can send to you. It's a list of everyone and all their MOS more or less.
Just PM me if you want it.
Hey Loose Cannon,
Great idea. I'd love to get a copy of the MOS lists and anything else you might have. I am trying to create some file cards for new characters and even some old ones. Also, I like the Dutch file card. He's definitely Army. I remember you mentioning the Battle of Hue and wondering if his unit was a Marine unit, but I found some interesting background in an early script of the movie, previously titled The Hunter. In the earlier version, Dillon says they were the "best in the Army," and Hawkins tells Billy an irreverent joke about two Marines eating roadkill so he's probably Army as well. However, Billy is described as a Kit Carson scout, and that means he would be a Marine, but it's not clear whether he was an actual Kit Carson scout or if the writer is simply comparing him to one. But if he is a Marine then that would explain why he doesn’t laugh at Hawkins’ joke. As for Blain and Mac, they were in the 101st Airborne according to an emblem on Blain's flask.
So they’re all Army except for maybe Billy, and they are clearly an elite unit. Dutch asks the general why they don’t “use the regular army” for the mission, so this affirms their elite status. But which elite unit do they belong to? Special Forces? Rangers? They might have been Green Berets, except for the fact that Dutch is surprised when he finds out that Hopper and his Green Berets were in the same area before them. He knows these men, which suggests that he may have been a Green Beret himself or that he trained with them. We know that Delta Force recruits a lot of Green Berets. Delta Force, I believe, also works out of Fort Bragg, where Hopper and his men are based. Delta Force seems to make the most sense. None of Dutch’s men wear insignia or identity badges and their uniforms are nondescript. They don’t follow strict grooming guidelines either. Billy has long hair, Blain sports a mustache and Dutch is unshaven when they arrive. Dutch’s high rank as a major makes him suitable as Company/Detachment Commander, assuming that Delta works a lot like the Green Berets. All the men are versatile and highly specialized too. Poncho could have been a Green Beret given his Spanish proficiency and later recruited to Delta. They also worked in various countries like Afghanistan and Berlin and were offered a mission in Libya, but Dutch refused because they are a rescue unit. Delta is well known for rescuing hostages and they are considered the best close-quarters combat team, much like Dutch’s men.
I’d say they have to be Delta.
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