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02-12-2019, 05:55 PM
chuck x goren
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Snake-Eyes' actual death wasn't too amazing... because all he did was, literally, fall on a grenade, while fighting one of the franchise's lamest villains. After all he's been through; all the death-defying situations; a simple grenade does him in.
The "funeral" the team gave for Snake-Eyes was "good", though.
In comics a lot of deaths are undone; even Bucky. But a "good" one was probably the first Jean Grey/Phoenix death in Uncanny X-men. When Jean "died" in the space shuttle and turned into Phoenix, she did it to save her team. The ol' self-sacrifice deal, which is a heroic way to go out.
About a year later, when Phoenix allowed herself to get killed by a laser canon, it was to save, potentially, the entire universe from the Phoenix Force. Kind of "I don't want you guys fighting for me, when I know I'm going to flip out again and eat planets. Let me go".
Up until Jean's unexpected resurrection in 1986, it was a "good death". She went out to save others and it had a huge emotional impact on the surviving characters.
-In no ways am I a Star Trek fan, but I always thought Spock's "death" in Wrath of Khan was another good way to go.
-Darth Vader's death was another. He finally turned (back to) good and saved his son. Without his tackle of the Emperor, Luke dies, and things carry on for the bad guys. Of course, the Death Star probably would've STILL blown up and Vader and the Emperor might've died, anyways...but what the hey!
-In the GI Joe world, Kwinn's death is probably the best. He was going to make Dr. Venom swallow a grenade... then realized that the "Weasel Spirit" was in him. Kwinn declined and walked away. Venom was a jerk and shot Kwinn in the back...but the grenade rolled out of Kwinn's hand killed Venom in a move of poetic justice. Had Venom NOT shot Kwinn, Venom could've lived.
-Despite the famous Benzheen body count in issue 109, I felt those were "bad deaths". Just random guys dying for the sake of a shock. They were people you didn't really care about. A few issues later, when Cool Breeze died, it was a "good death", as Stalker (and, presumably, readers) began to care for the guy.
So, my quick scorecard of what makes a "good death" in comics/cartoons/movies:
1- Person dies doing something heroic or noble. It can only be done once, it's a unique situation, and the hero is the only one who can do it (this is where Snake-Eyes' death falls short, IMO).
2- The death has consequences, be they emotional or otherwise.
3- The death is a significant character.
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