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01-11-2019, 09:45 AM
jlw515
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On the matter of sonic welding, does that mean it will be more difficult to crack the new torsos? I haven't tried one yet.
On the matter of incompatibility issues - was the hip ball socket size difference addressed at all?
Well, I'm assuming the waist piece is also sonic welded, which you've already seen is problematic with the stress marks it left on that grey waist piece.
MJ's comment of, "It is not an issue" doesn't really address the problem, because there certainly IS an issue, and the issue doesn't have anything to do with the sonic weld. The issue is how the torso connects to the waist piece, which as we've seen from your pics probably is due to the new T-Bar design.
Rueben made an "asking for a friend" comment to the FB discussion about "hasn't anyone ever cracked a GIJoe torso before." I responded to his comment as follows:
"Marauder Ruben many of us have split GIJoe torsos, but have experienced problems with them not cracking down the seam, stress marks in the plastic, etc. The original MTF and Valkyrie figures were a breath of fresh air to this problem.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve answered a question about “How to open an MTF torso?” and mentioned how easy it is to split them apart. So, I’m just wondering if, from the Company’s point of view, there was an issue with the old MTF figures? In other words, does the sonic weld correct a problem that the customers may not have been aware of.
Also, I’m more concerned about the Contractor & Agency Ops comparability with the older MTF waist piece. You’ve built a company model on easily customizing action figures by simply snapping the torso onto the waist, but now with the Contractor Ops it’s not so easy anymore.
I understand that the customer can slightly Dremel or whittle some plastic off of the new torsos to make them fit the older waists better, but we didn’t expect to have to do this given design of the previous MTF figures. Again, I think new T-Bar is where the difference lies.
With GIJoe figures, “customizing” was/is never a part of their company model/design like Marauders. Your entire product line (weapons & action figures) is based upon a modular, snap together, customizing design. So, your Kickstarter patrons are just taken back by how the slight design changes have affected how the new parts interchange with the older parts. I mean imagine if the Valkyrie t-shirt torsos wouldn’t have snapped on and off easily to the waist when that Kickstarter released. You’ve already designed a product line where you don’t have to permanently customize a figure - you can interchange torsos at will.
Now, with the Contractor Ops, you’ve kind of lost that feature. MJ’s solution is to permanently customize the torso which may affect how it fits on the older MTF waist. And you’ll probably see more people questioning/addressing this issue once the parts/figures are available on the website. We’re also curious as how this design change - again I don’t think it has anything to do with the sonic weld; I think it’s the new T-Bar - will affect the WWII figures and any future Kickstart projects.
You’ve got the best brand of action figures out there, and any info you can give your loyal customers is greatly appreciated."
To elaborate a little further, MJ's solution to the problem doesn't fit their company/product design at all. Imagine if when the Valkyrie figures released and the t-shirt torso was hard to snap into the waist piece and it felt like you'd have to break the T-Bar to get the t-shirt torso to snap off. Then MJ tells all the customers, "If the fit is too tight on the waist sections, just very slightly trim some material from inside the torso to make the fit easier. Don't do too much, because you might make the fit too loose ..."
I mean the whole concept to their product line is to be able to easily swap parts out without having to make any permanent, customizing changes to the figure. I just think they've lost that a bit with how the Contractor Ops parts interchange with older MTF parts. Seems to me, to get the parts to work correctly, you'll have to settle for a more permanent custom figure.
My two cents.
Jason
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