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10-16-2018, 10:13 PM
HissHissFangFan
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Join Date: Feb 2017
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Magnet study update 10/16/18:
Ball bearings:
I bought a 25-pack of 3/32" chrome steel ball bearing offa the Amazon. They ended up being to small: needed to coat foot holes heavily with clear nail polish, and still slipped out. Also, has much less mass for magnetic attraction than previously used cut leg screws. Someone else is welcome to continue to explore the ball bearings (maybe bigger sizes), but it wasn't worth the waiting time and excess material for me to continue.
Hollowed set screws:
I never pursued and bought these. I didn't want to hassle with finding the right diameter and depth (especially since foot hole diameters and depths vary so much). Plus, I theorize that the lost mass of the hollowed screw would result in weaker magnetic attraction than the previous cut screws. Last, this idea was offered to resolve making the screws easier to remove--but the cut screws were found to be easy to remove, especially when heating the foot soft.
Cut leg screws:
Since these were successful in test runs, I went forward with this foot peg option for my updated O13 figures and T13 figures, and bought a hundred extra screws off ebar from an Asian seller.
thread:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...ngfang-13.html
GiJoe_O13-13set-Classic25th_2018-0915dc
by
J Perez
, on Flickr
The figures stand fairly well. In some poses, they stand just as well as as with regular stands, depending on the pose, center of balance, and location of footpeg (fairly consisent with this particular set, but with others, that hole is all over the place).
I can pic up this display stand with figures as posed and move them room to room at normal pace, with from two to no figures falling over. And they did fall over--since the magnets are locked in place, I can just float that figure over the approximate location and let the magnet tractor beam the figure in. Don't know if they'd survive a car ride, but again if they fall over, figures are easily reset. Best of all, the display and floors are nice and clean from stands--resulting in a cleaner display, but also giving me more freedom in positioning and spacing the figures on this narrow display stand.
Still thinking of a use for all those cut screw heads...
In the picture above, to get a nice filled out 16x9 photo, I had to get the back row guys crouching pretty low with Flash and Grand Slam heavily lurching forward. I was struggling to get this guys to stand in this position, so I tried a new option, detailed below:
Footpeg magnets (new):
When I started this magnet project study, from Hobby Lobby, I bought a pack of 1/8" diameter by 1/8" long tiny earth magnet pegs that were available right next to the other earth magnet disc packs. I mentioned these in earlier posts, and found that they were generally too wide in diameter for most modern Joe figures.
However, I found that the peg-sized magnets can actually fit the Joe modern figures foot holes when the feet are well heated to softness with a hair dryer or hot water, and a little extra manual pressure. Also, for a lot of other figures (like some of my T13 figures), the foot holes were a little too large for the cut screw pegs, which made them more ideal for the peg-sized magnets.
If the foot can accommodate the peg-sized magnet, this is the best way to go: the grip to the base is absolutely fantastic, and allows for more off-balancing posing than previous foot peg options.
With a little digging online, I see that there are also 3/32" dia by 3/32" deep peg-size magnets available (though not from Hobby Lobby). I plan to buy a pack of these smaller size magnets in the near future, and will report back later.
Here's my T13 Roadblock, set with one peg-sized in each foot:
20181016_192407
by
J Perez
, on Flickr
The ideal foot peg location is at the center of the foot. Unfortunately, this and many other figures have the footpeg located way at the back of the foot. This is not good for resisting tipping backwards, but great for resisting tipping forwards as shown.
I bought a bunch extra 1/4" dia disc magnets offa the Amazon and a much cheaper price than Hobby Lobby's price. But I noticed that the center of attraction for these discs were not centered to the disc--the poles seem way off compared to the Hobby Lobby ones. As a result, I recommend buying the Hobby Lobby ones (test and approved), or other sellers that clearly specify pole direction and location. But going back to those cheap magnets--they may actually help balance a figure is back heavly and whose foot peg is set way back at the foot heel.
This Roadblock has that newer foot to ankle joinery found in the most recent and later figures. This joinery allows for better foot tilt but also had a terribly shallow footpeg (one that doesn't even accommodate normal stands). To solve the depth problem for normal foot pegs and for the peg-size magnets, remove the foot by heating, and drill the peg hole all the way through the foot. The new hole is never really visible when reattached to the leg. Why Hasbro didn't just do this in the first place is beyond by understanding.
Pic of peg magnets installed:
20181016_192519
by
J Perez
, on Flickr
Pic of deeper hole in foot, as well as size of peg magnet for reference
20181016_193043
by
J Perez
, on Flickr
Foot on the right has magnet in place; magnet alone is in front of foot on right, couldn't keep it away from foot on right with magnet:
For pic below, Roadblock and GungHo have peg-size magnets, all the rest have cut screw pegs for now (but will switch as many out for future pics):
GiJoe_T13-13set_2018-0810ab
by
J Perez
, on Flickr
For future pics, go here:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...sfangfang.html
Note: I am having trouble with Lady Jaye standing as successfully as all others, even with the magnets. Her peg holes are pretty short, so smaller cut screws, and small feet. Hopefully the smaller 3/32 peg magnets will help to improve this figure's magnetized stability. Currently I'm looking at these site for the magnets:
http://titan-magnetics.com/product/c...2mm-n35-20pcs/
http://www.magnet4less.com/index.php?cPath=1_11
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