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What secrets lurk in the filecards?
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06-25-2018, 06:56 AM
john shaft
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LowTech
Snake Eyes: Definitely not my favorite character, but more due to overexposure and the shift from commando to ninja (and the comics continually setting his face on fire) than the concept. I like the idea of a black-clad highly competent ruthless killer on a team like Joe.
Anyway, his first file card is pretty vague on his background. He's basically good at everything ("Has received extensive training in mountaineering, underwater demolitions, jungle, desert and arctic survival, and some form of holistic medicine."). His second file card says that he was on the Long Range Reconnaissance Patrols. That makes sense for a military background coming into a team like Joe. His v3 file card says that he was both Ranger qualified AND did the Recondo course before joining the LRRPs. That seems odd to me. My understanding of the Recondo course was that it was an in-country course run by Ranger-qualified Green Berets for non-Ranger qualified personnel (sounds like something the character Recondo would have done). It was shorter, but more Vietnam-focused than the Ranger course. It seems strange to me, and a bit of a waste of time, that someone would have done both courses since Recondo was basically a repetition of Ranger.
The Ranger course would have been a good entry to the mountaineering and jungle and desert survival. Maybe he did an exchange with a SEAL team (I'm guessing that happens) to pick up the UDT stuff.
Anyway, the cards sort of explain his skills, but also seem to indicate more repetition in training than breadth of training.
I wholeheartedly agree that Snake-Eyes is way overused. Then I read in another thread something about the new Hama comics killed SE off and put some female version in there to continue on with his legacy or something? No thanks Jeff...
That aside I always thought his first filecard read more like a Navy SEAL than anything else, especially the "underwater demolitions" part. I could see him doing some sort of exchange program with the SEALs. Not sure if a SCUBA-qualified Special Forces Engineer Sergeant would have any training in underwater demolitions or not but I thought that would be closest to an Army equivalent to a SEAL.
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LowTech
A number of Joe file cards are written up with Vietnam backgrounds, which in some cases are developed in the comic. Stalker and Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow were LRRPs, and Stalker and Snake Eyes were in MACV SOG in 1968. Wild Bill was a LRRP. Shipwreck was in the Mekong, Spirit did something unspecified, Leatherneck was in 1st Recon Battalion, Breaker was in Project Delta, Mainframe was in an Airborne unit around '74. Duke joined Special Forces in 69 and worked with tribesmen. I'm sure there are a couple of others I've forgotten.
The above list touches on some of the various esoteric activities in Nam - LRRPs, riverine units, Green Berets raising indigenous forces, Project Delta . . . but there's a major omission: The Son Tay Prison raid (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivory_Coast
). This was a complete failure as it turned out there weren't any prisoners there at the time of the raid, but was conducted by Green Berets in 1970, and it has had a major influence on US SOF culture ever since. Doesn't it seem weird that for all the Vietnam influence on Joe, no Joes were associated with this raid?
Either A) Hama hadn't thought about it, B) the names of those involved are classified or C) the possibility of even one member of the Joes being involved with that operation (when there was a small number involved in the first place) would be slim to none.
Since I am "modernizing" my Joes all of those involved in Southeast Asian conflicts are going to be Afghanistan instead of Vietnam. Shipwreck I may make him fighting pirates off the Horn of Africa instead of the Mekong.
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